Rebel News Podcast - July 22, 2022


EZRA LEVANT | Is this sky-high inflation the result of bumbling politicians or conniving ones?


Episode Stats

Length

52 minutes

Words per Minute

154.81296

Word Count

8,183

Sentence Count

466

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

Are Canada's sky-high inflation rates simply an accident, or something more sinister and by design? Then, Conservative Party Leadership Candidate Roman Baber joins us to discuss his new policy document, The Green New Deal . We walk all the way through it, or as much as we have time for, and then we get to your letters to Ezra.


Transcript

00:00:00.200 Oh hey Rebels, what's going on? I bet right now you're shocked to hear my voice. I bet
00:00:06.040 you were expecting Ezra Levant's melodious vocal stylings right now, but unfortunately
00:00:10.320 it's me, Sheila Gunn-Reed, and I'm filling in for Ezra Levant tonight. Tonight we're
00:00:16.300 talking about whether or not the sky-high inflation, the worst in 40 years, what the
00:00:22.040 Bank of Canada's governor describes as painful, is it by design or by accident?
00:00:30.000 I'll lay out the case, you be the judge, and I'll show you exactly why the mainstream
00:00:34.020 media doesn't seem to care anyway. And then we're talking to Conservative Party
00:00:37.980 leadership hopeful Roman Babber about his commitment to Canada. It's his new policy
00:00:44.460 document. We walk all the way through it or as much as we have time for. And then of
00:00:49.880 course, naturally, we get to your letters to Ezra. Now, you're listening to the audio
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00:01:46.700 of Ezra's show. Tonight, are sky-high inflation rates simply an accident caused by idiotic politicians
00:02:09.600 or are they something more? Something sinister and by design? Then, Conservative Party leadership
00:02:16.560 hopeful Roman Babber joins us to discuss his commitment to Canadians. It's July 21st, 2022.
00:02:24.400 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, but you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
00:02:27.940 You're fighting for freedom! Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:02:39.600 I want to show you this clip from the governor of the Bank of Canada, a guy named Tiff Macklin. It
00:02:49.900 comes on the back of a Statistics Canada report from just Wednesday that said Canada's annual
00:02:55.280 inflation rate has crept up over 8% from 7.7% in May. It's the largest yearly change in about
00:03:01.060 four decades. Anyway, here's the clip.
00:03:03.600 There's no way around it. 8.1% inflation is painfully high. We do expect, we know gasoline
00:03:11.560 prices came down in July, so a month from now when StatsCan publishes July inflation,
00:03:16.980 it probably will come down a bit. But look, unfortunately, inflation is probably going to
00:03:22.320 start with a seven for the rest of the year. It is going to be painfully high.
00:03:26.780 When a liberal appointee is saying that things are painful and bad, trust me, it's painful and bad and
00:03:34.000 probably worse. But painfully high? That's the plan if you listen to Chrystia Freeland,
00:03:38.900 our deputy prime minister, our finance minister, and the woman whose financial prowess was just so
00:03:44.120 stedler that she ran an entire news division of Reuters right into the dirt. Anyway, this painful
00:03:50.700 inflation that's biting into your family's savings as you try to cover the cost of essentials at the
00:03:55.520 grocery store and fuel in the minivan. Well, it's what Freeland wants. Take a listen.
00:04:00.980 From my perspective, this price increase in fuel costs is a reminder of why climate action is so
00:04:13.620 important and why as a country, we have to work even harder and move even faster towards a green
00:04:23.680 economy. It's an insurance policy against higher energy prices. Your suffering is her opportunity.
00:04:31.920 So just shut up and keep suffering. She makes no bones about it. She's actually proud of it. Look at
00:04:36.980 this clip. Real proof point for me that Canada can, Canada will seize the opportunities in the green
00:04:46.720 transition. And so much of that seizing of opportunities is going to happen here in Calgary,
00:04:52.480 is going to happen here in Alberta. When I tabled the budget last week, one of the things that I
00:05:00.080 emphasized was that the green transition is here. The world economy, our trading partners, they have
00:05:09.180 decided that their economies are going to go green. And this is a huge, huge transformation. It is the
00:05:18.280 biggest transformation of the global economy since the industrial revolution itself.
00:05:27.820 We have a unique opportunity here in Canada and here in Alberta to be leaders in that green transition.
00:05:38.320 And I've seen the evidence just in the past hour here today.
00:05:42.440 Now, it's not just government printing money like it's going out of style and spending like there's
00:05:48.420 no tomorrow driving up inflation rates. It's so much more. It's supply issues on the housing market.
00:05:56.240 The housing market's being pressured by inflated immigration targets that are now making it hard for
00:06:01.180 young Canadians to get into their first homes. It's a carbon tax and then a hike on the carbon tax on top
00:06:07.480 of that, making the cost of groceries and food and basically everything that travels by a truck or a
00:06:12.420 train or a plane even more expensive to the consumer. That same tax is also crushing the family trying to
00:06:18.640 fill up their car on the way to soccer practice these days. And if all that, all of that were not
00:06:23.740 enough, there's liberal price fixing on essential foodstuffs that will ultimately hurt the poor the most.
00:06:29.840 Let's look at this from Black Locks just today. Food prices were up 9% compared to the same time last
00:06:37.560 year. And yet a federal agency, the Canadian Dairy Commission, last February 1st raised wholesale milk
00:06:43.380 prices by 8.4%. The wholesale cost of butter went up 12.5%. The commission stockpiled butter and cheese
00:06:50.200 to maintain prices. The Agriculture Minister's office in a separate briefing note titled The Milk Price
00:06:56.740 Increase for Producers Acknowledged Federal Regulators Approved Higher Costs Despite the Worst Inflation
00:07:03.140 in 39 Years. They don't care. They just don't care. They've done this to you and they're hell bent on
00:07:11.540 making it worse because who needs cheese when you can, I guess, just eat the bugs. And the media,
00:07:17.460 they don't seem to care either. They're supposed to hold truth to power. But if you can't make ends meet,
00:07:23.140 well, here's someone who works for the CBC, their personal finance expert, in fact, telling you what
00:07:28.200 to do. Take a listen.
00:07:30.140 Shelter and hydro in combination should be about 30% of your income. And that is much higher
00:07:36.700 right now, especially in cities like Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, where rents are much higher.
00:07:42.720 One way that you can mitigate that is by speaking to your employer about getting a raise. With inflation,
00:07:49.260 the way that it is going, it is completely reasonable right now, especially in this tight
00:07:53.680 labour market, to go to your employer and say, I need you to bump my wage because it's becoming
00:07:59.040 impossible for me to still survive in the city that I was hired in. And if that doesn't work,
00:08:04.780 looking for another job, especially if you've got skills that are in demand, will often give you the
00:08:09.200 bump that you need in order to afford that apartment and that rent that goes with it.
00:08:13.140 I can hear a whole bunch of people at home going, so my boss will say no.
00:08:18.700 Yeah, and that's a fair point.
00:08:20.940 Guys, it's obviously just that simple. Just get a better job, ask for a raise. And frankly,
00:08:26.020 it's no wonder these people who exist in the subsidised, insulated bubble of the CBC think
00:08:30.880 this way. In April, we reported that the CBC was on track to pay out $12 million in pay raises
00:08:36.440 over the course of 2022. But Black Locks again, today they have a higher number,
00:08:41.200 $30 million in pay raises at the CBC. So yeah, I guess if you can't make ends meet,
00:08:47.220 you can just ask for a raise that you don't deserve if you work at the CBC. And you'll
00:08:51.760 probably get it. But in the real world, for the people who pay those inflated salaries at the CBC,
00:08:57.440 well, it just doesn't work that way, sister. After the break, someone who is trying to inject some
00:09:03.060 reality into not just the financial situation in Canada, but also the democratic situation in Canada
00:09:08.660 joins me. Conservative Party of Canada, leadership hopeful, Roman Babber joins me after the break
00:09:15.700 to explain his major campaign policy announcements today. Stay with us.
00:09:20.780 Welcome back, everybody. One of the great things about Patrick Brown no longer being in the race to
00:09:38.720 replace Aaron O'Toole as the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada is that the other
00:09:43.380 more serious and less scandal-plagued candidates have a chance now to advance great policy ideas,
00:09:54.620 things that matter to Conservatives and ultimately matter to Canadians without being overshadowed by
00:09:59.920 Patrick Brown and his many, many scandals. And one of those candidates who is advancing some,
00:10:07.160 I think, fantastic policy ideas is Roman Babber. He was, as you know, removed as a member of the
00:10:15.740 Ontario PCs for his principled stance against lockdowns and COVID restrictions. And he joins me
00:10:21.880 right now because he is releasing his commitment to Canada and he's going to walk us through it.
00:10:28.060 Roman, thanks for joining us on the show. Why don't you explain to us why you felt the need to,
00:10:34.860 I guess, put pen to paper and document your commitment to Canada?
00:10:42.280 Look, I've enjoyed this race. And I also think that it's been a very positive race in that it's
00:10:49.360 been a race of ideas. Contrary to the traditional allegation that Conservatives are afraid to put forth
00:10:55.240 a bold and principled stance during leadership races, I wanted to spark a conversation on some
00:11:01.700 things that really matter to Canadians. And some of those, I think, are long overdue. I'm running
00:11:08.580 against socialism in Canada. That's why I think it's appropriate to suggest that we should end
00:11:14.700 equalization payments instead of continuing this provincial interdependency. We should probably phase
00:11:22.200 out supply management instead of telling farmers how much dairy they can produce. And we need to have
00:11:28.200 the courage to stand up for all Canadians and defend them against Bill 21 and Bill 96 in Quebec,
00:11:35.080 and so on and so forth. I think that we should make this race about the conscience and the future
00:11:40.760 of the Conservative Party. And that means not being afraid to put forth bold and courageous ideas.
00:11:46.360 Now, you've got a sort of a four-point plan of your commitment to Canada. And the first one is defend
00:11:52.360 Canada's democracy. And, you know, not only in there do you talk about decentralizing powers away from the
00:11:59.900 Prime Minister's office, and I suppose that goes back to giving power to the MPs to exercise matters of
00:12:07.180 conscience without being booted from caucus. But also, I suppose that involves giving powers back to
00:12:15.260 the provinces, too, to make decisions without meddling from the Prime Minister's office.
00:12:21.740 Absolutely. So, look, the principal reason why I'm in this race is because I think we're watching an
00:12:27.660 unprecedented erosion of Canada's democracy. And as someone with a unique perspective on how
00:12:32.940 precious and fragile our democracy is, I think it's incumbent on us to stand up for our country and
00:12:40.340 all Canadians. So, first, I will end this 21st century segregation that we've been seeing for
00:12:45.620 the last couple of years. I'll pass federal legislation to ban all passports and mandates
00:12:49.880 and medical discrimination. I'll restore the freedom of speech. That's the most important thing
00:12:53.940 we can do because through speech, we protect all other rights. So, I'll repeal the liberal censorship
00:12:58.280 laws. I'll defend regulated professionals. I'll speak to the social media giants.
00:13:02.940 Through the Bureau of Competition and ensure that Canadians are not censored online. And most
00:13:06.860 importantly, we have to ensure free and independent media. And that means end all media dependency
00:13:12.700 on government. But at the same time, you can't restore democracy in Canada without restoring
00:13:16.940 democracy in the Conservative Party of Canada. So, restore parliamentary democracy by decentralizing
00:13:21.820 power away from the PMO, allow free votes on matters of conscience, and encourage MPs to express
00:13:26.380 their views without fear of reprisal.
00:13:30.300 You know, I think that's a really great thing that you're talking about, that free speech is,
00:13:36.320 you know, it's the thing by which we argue about all the other rights. And, you know, I was talking
00:13:42.460 to Ezra the other day about one of the great things about Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is that he is
00:13:48.060 unafraid to use all the levers of power at his disposal to advance his agenda. And we see the left do this
00:13:54.620 all the time. Justin Trudeau does it all the time. It's how he banned 1500 popular models of Canadian
00:14:00.420 firearms. He just did it. Now, I disagree with his agenda, but he's using all the levers of power to
00:14:06.460 advance it. And it's nice to see a Conservative talking about doing the same, saying, you know what,
00:14:11.740 I'm going to advance and pass this legislation, I'm going to get it done, instead of Conservatives
00:14:17.320 being afraid to advance ideas. We always talked about, you know, the left talked about Harper's
00:14:24.460 hidden agenda. 10 years later, 15 years later, I've never seen it. We're still looking for it.
00:14:31.360 It was so slow and hidden that nobody ever found it. And the left is always up front, at least we,
00:14:36.260 we may disagree with them, but we know what we're getting. And it's nice to see a Conservative
00:14:40.920 like yourself talking about it. One of the things you, I think is a new policy to you, is the repeal
00:14:50.820 of supply management. Now, as a farmer, I've got a unique perspective on this. I'm not a supply managed
00:14:56.520 farmer. So I don't, I'm not, I'm not pro supply management. If I can make it, they can make it.
00:15:02.900 But I think this is a new policy for you, or at least I've never seen you talking about it.
00:15:08.940 Um, so why is, why now, why are you talking about this? Why is this a, a Roman babber issue now?
00:15:16.680 It's just to your earlier comment, very quickly, we do not need to be afraid of, of presenting a
00:15:23.420 serious, uh, proposal and agenda before Canadians. Uh, I think that that in fact is what lost us the
00:15:31.040 prior two elections is that we're afraid to be ourselves or we run to the right during leadership.
00:15:36.320 And then we pivot to the left, uh, during the general election that is, uh, inconsistent with
00:15:41.660 our brand. We need to ensure that the Conservative party stands on principles and, and folks might
00:15:46.040 disagree with me, uh, but that's okay. That's democracy. But at the very least, you will always
00:15:50.340 know where I stand. Like I said, at the outside of the interview, I'm running against socialism
00:15:55.200 in Canada. And that means that, uh, I do not believe that we should have central planning
00:15:59.880 of the economy. And I can't imagine a more quintessential policy that plans the economy
00:16:04.720 centrally than supply management, whereby effectively, uh, a Politburo of sorts, uh,
00:16:11.520 the Dairy Council of Canada, uh, regulates how much dairy products we may produce every year.
00:16:17.840 I find that terrible for the consumer, uh, of course, for prices, especially when prices
00:16:23.560 are, um, are skyrocketing in the grocery stores, we are spilling out thousands of, uh, gallons
00:16:30.660 of milk, uh, when we need to encourage increasing supply, not decreasing, especially given that, uh,
00:16:39.500 we have, uh, a lot of money in the economy. And so I think that if a Canadian wants to get up
00:16:45.700 and farm, uh, we should not prevent them. Of course, uh, I understand that some folks own
00:16:50.880 concessions and quotas, and we need to figure out a way to wean ourselves off supply management.
00:16:56.000 And that means maybe looking at amortization, uh, looking at some sort of exchange, uh, policy,
00:17:02.120 but I want to free, uh, our ability to farm. You know, I, I think that's great. I think very
00:17:10.120 rarely people think outside the box on this issue. Uh, and, um, you know, it's nice to see that you
00:17:17.040 are addressing those arguments where they say, well, I have a quota, this expense, this quota
00:17:20.880 is expensive. You're, you're rendering it useless to me. You've actually sort of thought a little bit
00:17:27.280 down the road about how we're going to deal with people who hold these quotas so that eventually
00:17:32.460 there will be more farmers in the marketplace, um, to bring those costs down to consumers. I think
00:17:38.220 it's wonderful. Um, one of the things that you're sorry, go ahead. I was going to say, absolutely.
00:17:43.300 We cannot devalue someone's personal property. We cannot come in and overnight render it, uh,
00:17:50.180 uh, render it, uh, uh, without any value, sorry, devalue it overnight. And so what I propose we do
00:17:58.720 instead, we have some models to look at. New Zealand has been able to wean itself off supply management.
00:18:04.420 Uh, but most importantly, I think we need to think about the longterm and we have too many
00:18:10.920 cartels in Canada, whether it's maple syrup or agricultural products. Uh, we're limiting the
00:18:16.460 supply of, uh, fertilizer for instance, uh, through a cartel, which makes no sense either. We need to
00:18:24.000 free up our economic opportunity, especially at a time when we're seeing an unprecedented price
00:18:29.020 inflation. You know, one of the policy issues you talk about in your commitment to Canada is
00:18:35.920 standing up to China. And again, that is something that I have not seen a lot from the other
00:18:41.300 candidates. In fact, I would, uh, I would, I think credibly accuse one of the other candidates,
00:18:46.600 Jean Charest of being at least some point in his career in the pocket of, uh, a CCP linked
00:18:53.160 company named Huawei. But you have said that since you were born under a communist regime,
00:18:59.460 you really understand why people, particularly people from China come to Canada, um, to have
00:19:05.340 their rights protected. And, um, you're going to make sure that some of those Chinese style policies,
00:19:12.800 uh, of, you know, uh, hijacking intellectual property, um, cracking down on religious minorities,
00:19:19.700 you're going to make sure that they never come here, but you're also going to speak out against
00:19:24.780 China doing it. Um, and I know a lot of candidates, they're just scared because of the sheer economic
00:19:32.420 force of China to say these things. Again, we should not be afraid and we should project moral
00:19:38.840 clarity on issues that are important to Canadians. Uh, like many of your viewers know, I was born and I
00:19:44.840 lived under a communist regime under the first almost nine years of my life. And, uh, I recall
00:19:50.600 the fear of religious prosecution that my family, uh, experienced, uh, being, uh, Jewish, uh, part
00:19:58.680 Ukrainian and part Russian in the former Soviet Union. And so I believe that communism is evil and
00:20:04.880 we must confront such evil without fear. And so, uh, my government will stop pandering to China
00:20:12.000 and we'll rally the international community to oppose, uh, their onerous lockdowns. They're still
00:20:17.660 locking down tens of millions of healthy people. They're oppressing, uh, religious minorities.
00:20:23.700 Specifically, we know that they are, um, transporting, uh, Chinese Muslims into, uh, camps. They're stealing
00:20:33.660 our intellectual property. They have taken over, uh, effectively Hong Kong's democracy and they're
00:20:39.460 threatening Taiwan. We need to work with, uh, countries around China and encourage the manufacturing
00:20:47.260 flow to some of the neighbors in the region. And we need to rally the international community
00:20:53.060 to stop pretending that, uh, China is, is not one of the worst, uh, human rights abusers around the
00:21:00.000 world. And in fact, a regime that is destabilizing the world and lead the international community to
00:21:05.460 this moral clarity. I wanted to ask you, I know it's not in your policy document, but you've
00:21:12.140 obviously thought about this issue. So I'm, I'm going to ask you about this. You touched on the
00:21:17.160 treatment of the Uyghurs in China, and there's some strong overlays between what's happening to
00:21:23.560 the Uyghurs and the residential school system here in Canada that the liberals speak out. I think most
00:21:30.440 people disagree with the treatment of, uh, Canada's indigenous people in the residential
00:21:35.260 schools, but right now in China, they are taking, uh, Uyghur children, preventing them from speaking
00:21:42.800 their language, practicing their religion and taking away their Muslim names, basically sending
00:21:47.240 them to these re-education schools for little children while their parents are off in the
00:21:51.640 re-education camp and the forced slave labor camp. And we don't hear Justin Trudeau talking about this
00:21:58.640 at all. He rightfully speaks out against anti-Muslim racism and bigotry in Canada and around the world.
00:22:09.460 He invited the entire world to come to Canada when Justin, or I'm sorry, when President Trump imposed
00:22:17.520 what the left called a Muslim ban with his immigration policy. But we don't hear about this systemic
00:22:25.780 racism and genocide against this Muslim minority in China. Why do you think that is?
00:22:34.680 I think, uh, Justin Trudeau is weak and lacks moral principles. Um, this is not the only issue
00:22:41.220 on which he's hypocritical, but to go back to this issue, when every year, um, we use the phrase
00:22:50.400 never again, we should mean the words never again. And I am very hesitant to make all sorts
00:22:58.800 of historical comparisons. Um, it's something that is very, very sensitive to many folks,
00:23:04.700 but it's for that reason that we need to be open-minded and appreciate what is transpiring
00:23:11.080 in China. And of course we know that the only religion allowed in China is communism, which is,
00:23:17.360 and so it's not new for them to oppress religious minorities. We know, for instance, the Falun Gong
00:23:23.700 people, the Falun Dafa people, something that I take a considerable interest in, um, effective
00:23:29.400 practice, uh, a form of meditation with breathing, with, uh, yoga techniques and, and some spiritual,
00:23:36.040 uh, enlightenment. And, and they have been oppressed and jailed since the early nineties in China.
00:23:42.940 They have been, uh, used, uh, potentially in all sorts of, uh, markets around the world that are
00:23:50.400 just unthinkable. And I think we have a duty as loving and peaceful people to, uh, speak for
00:24:00.540 human rights all around the world. I don't propose an interventional pot, an interventionist policy,
00:24:05.900 but I do propose that we project more moral clarity on, on such important issues.
00:24:15.120 You know, it's, it's interesting that you brought up, you know, the Falun Gong and the fact that
00:24:19.800 what's happening to the Uyghurs, it's happening to other religious groups in China as well. You
00:24:24.960 rightly point out that communism is the only allowed religion there. For example, Cardinal Zen,
00:24:30.000 he's the Cardinal, the Catholic Cardinal of Hong Kong. He was arrested in May, May 25th. And, uh,
00:24:38.040 he has been an outspoken advocate for a free Hong Kong for a very long time. And it has been an
00:24:46.140 absolute failing of the Canadian government to speak up on his behalf. Um, there's a Canadian singer
00:24:53.480 was also arrested at the same time. Um, it was not just Cardinal Zen, but again, Justin Trudeau,
00:25:01.340 too scared of China. And as you rightly point out, has no moral clarity and has been completely
00:25:06.380 silent on this issue. The man is a political prisoner based on his religion and Canada who,
00:25:12.080 you know, we used to take the lead in these issues. I think we were instrumental in dismantling,
00:25:19.060 um, South African apartheid and we are completely silent on this.
00:25:25.700 Absolutely. I think part of the issue is that, uh, over the last couple of years,
00:25:30.040 we have completely taking our eye off the ball around the world. Uh, we have been focused on
00:25:36.800 COVID response, which as you know, I'm, I'm a big critic of because I felt that we need to reassess
00:25:41.900 our, um, our COVID response and, and focus on where the risk is, which is primarily in long-term
00:25:47.900 care homes and, and congregate settings and beef up our hospital capacity because the virus is so
00:25:52.360 transmissible, uh, arrest of the virus, I believe is naive, but it's not just the Chinese regime
00:25:58.120 that, uh, Justin Trudeau refuses to stand up. I believe that one of the greatest threats to world
00:26:04.800 peace and stability is the, uh, Republic of Iran. And I remember after, uh, the Ukrainian plane was
00:26:12.540 shut down with 158 Canadians on board. Uh, I remember he met with the foreign minister about
00:26:17.900 a month later and effectively bowed to him. Um, I joked at the time that, that he was Justin's,
00:26:23.740 uh, Valentine and I'm very, very concerned about the fact that Canada is unwilling to, to play,
00:26:31.800 uh, a key role and, and project, uh, this moral clarity and, and delineate for the international
00:26:39.780 community, uh, right from wrong. And, and, and that's something that I think prime minister Harper
00:26:44.360 did very, very well. And so I certainly look forward to restoring, uh, such credibility around
00:26:50.380 the world, but I want to stress that we're not going to restore our credibility around the world
00:26:55.660 until we restore democracy at home. And, and I want to come back to the fact that we are seeing
00:27:04.280 a remarkable erosion of our rights. We still have close to 20% of Canadians treated like second-class
00:27:09.440 citizens. We have censorship legislation working itself through the courts, uh, through the,
00:27:13.820 through parliament. We have, uh, an unlawful invocation of the emergencies act. We have the
00:27:18.800 top police officer in the country, potentially doing the prime minister political favor. Uh,
00:27:23.700 I would propose, uh, at least at the outset to focus on restoring democracy at home before we can
00:27:29.900 credibly opine on what's transpiring around the world. You know, you're, you're right to say that
00:27:35.840 because, uh, so often we see, you know, Chinese politicians and bureaucrats, they chirp us online
00:27:44.800 all the time. Um, and they probably have, you know, at least the ability to point out some serious
00:27:51.860 hypocrisy by the Canadian government on some of these things. I, I suppose it would be pretty hard
00:27:56.580 to speak out against Cardinal Zen when he didn't say anything, when James Coates, Pastor James Coates
00:28:01.900 was sitting in prison in Canada or, you know, speaking out against political prisoners while
00:28:06.980 Tamera Leach is still in prison. Um, now, one of the things I wanted to talk to you about that
00:28:12.420 sort of sets you apart, even amongst your own conservative colleagues is on the issue of
00:28:19.800 environment and climate change. Because as I'm reading through your policy document here,
00:28:24.600 you note a very mainstream, reasonable, uh, I think it's a pretty accepted fact here that Canada
00:28:33.900 is a carbon sink that, that we actually soak up because of the size of the boreal forest,
00:28:40.660 more carbon than we emit. And yet Canadians are still being taxed on their carbon emissions.
00:28:47.940 Do you think, I guess my question is, are you going to, uh, face some criticism for just saying this
00:28:53.820 very acceptable mainstream scientific fact that most kids in grade 10 biology understand?
00:29:03.060 We cannot be afraid to talk about some of the difficult issues that, that are facing our
00:29:07.920 country. And I think that, um, if anything learned from last couple of years is that it was our fear
00:29:15.200 to stand up to the left wing cancel culture COVID mob that has allowed this remarkable catastrophe,
00:29:22.040 uh, to go on for almost two years. You know, I, I said a couple of days ago, we somehow, we allowed,
00:29:28.660 uh, government and public health and our school system to convince our children that if they play,
00:29:34.780 that if they play next to one another in close proximity, that someone God forbid may die.
00:29:40.560 We have, uh, we're raising a generation of children that have suffered a mental trauma
00:29:45.320 who will have difficulty potentially leading a normal life. And, and we should not be afraid
00:29:51.560 to confront those that seek to further, uh, potentially, uh, whether it's purposefully or not
00:29:59.540 to inflict harm on our country, on our, on Canadians and our, on our economic interests. And we should not
00:30:06.880 be afraid to address, uh, the discussion around the environment and climate change, but take it a hand
00:30:13.800 on Canada produces only one and a half percent of all global emissions. Uh, it's even if we were to
00:30:21.380 cut all of them, it's not clear that it would actually make any material difference in the
00:30:25.800 climate. We know that most nations, uh, are now giving up on the Paris accord. We know who the
00:30:31.760 polluters are. Um, I, I think it's a pie in the sky that is not attainable and not necessary,
00:30:36.620 which is why I'll take Canada out of the, uh, Paris accord. And we're blessed with so much forest,
00:30:42.300 as you say that most, if not all of our, uh, greenhouse gases are actually naturally absorbed.
00:30:48.440 Um, that is why I oppose the carbon tax. I do not believe that taxing Sally $10 at the gas pump
00:30:56.940 is actually going to affect the global climate. I don't think that anyone, uh, really believes that
00:31:03.040 anymore. And I will not impose a regressive tax on Canadians, which achieves nothing other than
00:31:09.220 effectively punishing Canadians and making life more expensive. So, uh, you know, right now we're
00:31:14.100 planting 360 million trees a year. Uh, I will look to increase it, uh, to maybe half a billion,
00:31:19.780 but I think that, um, Canada's natural resources are a blessing. It's one of the themes of, uh,
00:31:26.500 my commitment to Canada is to make Canada a natural resources superpower. And that means repealing
00:31:31.800 the anti-pipeline bill, um, rethinking, legislating, and negotiating the three main pipelines,
00:31:36.740 and revisiting the discussion on Excel. Americans are very unhappy with the price of gas and clarify
00:31:41.620 the duty to consult, uh, encourage the, uh, creation of refinery capacity and, uh, reconsider
00:31:47.600 our approach to mining and invest and encourage mining. I think the only way we get out of the
00:31:53.480 fiscal hole that we're in right now is to unleash our economic superpower. And we can do that through
00:31:59.400 Canada's natural resources. Yeah. I see in your policy document, you are making sure that you don't
00:32:04.920 leave Canada's indigenous communities behind, particularly in those partnerships with the
00:32:09.360 resource industry. Um, most, I think most Albertans know that if you were to pick, uh, a resource or
00:32:16.620 sorry, any industry in this country that you would describe as indigenous, it would be the resource
00:32:22.520 industry. I think, uh, indigenous people are double represented in, um, mining and resource extraction
00:32:31.300 projects as a percentage of the workforce versus a percentage of the Canadian population. Um, so, um,
00:32:38.540 you've rightly pointed that out in here. The one last thing I want to talk to you about, because I
00:32:42.360 could probably talk to you all day, but I'm sure you have other things to do. Um, healthcare, um,
00:32:48.580 it's, it's an evergreen problem that you, you just pick up the paper, you go on the internet and you see
00:32:57.400 the healthcare system is in collapse and it's not a COVID thing. This is a perennial problem in Canada.
00:33:04.600 So how do we fix that? And is, uh, is there room in your plan for private innovation to alleviate the
00:33:15.120 load that the publicly funded system is bearing?
00:33:19.460 Um, Chile, if I may very quickly on indigenous policy, as I travel the country, uh, I realize how
00:33:26.120 prevalent and, and still important and raw this issue to so many Canadians, both indigenous and
00:33:32.640 non-indigenous. And I think that, um, that it's certainly something that the Canadian government,
00:33:38.240 that our future conservative government should be thinking about. Um, we must be mindful of our
00:33:43.380 history. So we don't repeat the mistakes of the past, but we should not be, uh, encouraging or
00:33:48.900 succumbing to Justin Trudeau's divisive, divisive, uh, rhetoric. So I think that the best thing we
00:33:54.260 can do for reconciliation is actually improve the lives of indigenous people. And, and we can get
00:34:00.540 a good start with water. We still have hundreds of communities around Canada that still don't have
00:34:06.220 access to clean and safe drinking water. And given today's technologies where we can essentially drop
00:34:11.400 water anywhere and make water out of air, that is inexcusable, which is why I'm committed to,
00:34:16.600 uh, making sure that every Canadian community has water by the end of my first term.
00:34:22.080 But, uh, back to your question on healthcare, we have to acknowledge, we have to concede that Canada
00:34:27.600 has one of the most efficient healthcare systems in the world. And one of the lowest rates of hospital
00:34:34.000 beds in the OECD, my, um, my region of North York has one of the lowest, uh, bed numbers in the
00:34:40.420 countries and therefore in the developed world, that's unacceptable. So we have to own up to the fact
00:34:45.600 that we're probably overdue for a major capital expansion as our population is getting older
00:34:51.420 and people are living longer. We need more beds, but it cannot come without, uh, administrative
00:34:57.720 improvements. For instance, in the province of Ontario, we have more healthcare bureaucrats
00:35:01.580 than family physicians. I read in the post, uh, media last year that, uh, Canada has about 10 times
00:35:07.340 more healthcare bureaucrats than Germany per capita. So that's impossible. So we need to work with the
00:35:12.340 provinces to reduce our administrative burden. If we're going to look at a capital injection.
00:35:16.600 And second of all, I am in favor of looking at a private delivery model still within the framework
00:35:21.780 of the Canada health act. We should encourage doctors and surgeons to, to innovate and see patients
00:35:29.000 outside of, uh, the hospital or existing frameworks. We should encourage private imaging, uh, and diagnostics.
00:35:35.920 And at the same time, we can still remain within the single healthcare, uh, payer system where, uh,
00:35:42.480 a private supplier would build government, uh, directly. And finally on healthcare, I'm going
00:35:46.580 to amend the Canada health act to make sure that we will not discriminate against any Canadian
00:35:51.700 because of their medical status or their personal healthcare choice.
00:35:55.660 Yeah. It's funny when people talk about healthcare, they just pretend like Saskatchewan doesn't exist.
00:36:00.700 Saskatchewan does this all the time or Quebec, you know, they do this all the time.
00:36:05.000 They have lower wait times. They spend far less in Saskatchewan than they, we do here in Alberta.
00:36:10.800 They have better outcomes. And yet it seems to be that in the other eight provinces, the only way
00:36:18.600 of delivering something is the same way that you keep doing it. That doesn't work. So I'm happy to
00:36:22.560 see that you've sort of examined some of these Canadian success stories and are willing to allow
00:36:27.720 replication of that in other places. Uh, Roman, how did people find out more about your commitment
00:36:34.380 to Canada and support you as you try to advance these ideas within the Conservative Party of Canada
00:36:40.180 leadership race? Well, everyone's encouraged to visit joinroman.ca, joinroman.ca and click on
00:36:45.440 policy is where you can find the entire document commitment to Canada, which is essentially four
00:36:50.580 pillars. Restore Canada's democracy, uh, uh, restore Canadian opportunity, make Canada a natural
00:36:57.700 resources, superpower, and real estate trust in government. We have a record deficit of trust in
00:37:04.020 government. Now we've got to say what we believe and do what we believe is right. I'll propose a
00:37:07.740 judicial inquiry into the handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, review the lobbying act and the
00:37:11.940 representation formula, most importantly, restore and defend the rule of law. Uh, we are, uh, running an
00:37:18.160 excellent campaign. I think we have certainly influenced the conversation very much in the democracy
00:37:23.360 direction among all other candidates. Uh, I would remind your, um, uh, viewers that it's a ranked
00:37:29.860 ballot. Uh, there is no vote splitting. They can comfortably put me, rank me first. And then, uh,
00:37:35.880 another, perhaps a more popular candidate who's likely to survive longer on the ballot than I am,
00:37:40.400 uh, after me, uh, although we do see a path to winning and, but, but if we're not going to get there,
00:37:47.720 then, um, we ask that, uh, your viewers rank us first to send a strong message of democracy
00:37:54.720 to the conservative party of Canada, and that we reward politicians that say what they believe and
00:38:01.120 put their constituents ahead of politics. Uh, join Roman.ca. We're one of the least underfunded,
00:38:06.680 we're the least funded campaign. Uh, but at the same time, we're doing great and I'm excited for
00:38:11.120 the conclusion of this race. Yeah, you're sure punching up Roman. Thanks so much for coming on the
00:38:16.400 show. I wish you the best of luck. Uh, I, I admire how unafraid you are to advance these ideas because
00:38:22.540 these are truly mainstream ideas. If you take a minute to talk to the grassroots, uh, Roman,
00:38:28.180 thanks so much for coming on the show. Best of luck in the race and your letters to Ezra read to me,
00:38:34.180 read by me after the break.
00:38:46.400 This is the portion of the show where, well, Ezra used to call it his hate mail, but we don't get a
00:38:52.580 lot of hate. In fact, we get a lot of pretty thoughtful responses to our work from our viewers
00:38:59.200 out there in the wild. And unlike the mainstream media, we don't close our comment section.
00:39:03.360 We want to hear from you. We want to know what you think about our work, good or bad. So let's go to
00:39:09.620 our first letter. It's from Claude or Claude. I'm sorry if I'm saying it improperly. Who writes Trudeau
00:39:16.760 got that hilarious bowl cut. So people would feel sorry for him and vote for him in his sneaky new
00:39:21.720 election that he's soon to call. I see that photo of Justin Trudeau with his new haircut. And I know
00:39:29.940 for sure that his hairdresser probably votes conservative. I feel like that is a haircut given
00:39:37.040 from spite. Someone who has had their business closed one too many times thanks to the COVID
00:39:44.560 scare lockdowns and is quietly fighting back in the one way they know how. Next comment is from
00:39:53.040 Char West or Char West. Thank you. It's about time conservatives as well stopped focusing on Biden
00:40:00.560 and started talking about policies. Yeah, you know what? Biden is a decrepit aging
00:40:07.840 old man whom I think is being abused by the Democrat establishment. I don't know how we report them for
00:40:17.280 elder abuse, but what I see is absolutely that. He should be shuffling around in his slippers
00:40:23.200 in a nursing home visiting with his grandchildren and just relaxing, eating dinner at four o'clock and
00:40:31.400 going to bed at 730. Unfortunately, he is in charge of the nuclear codes and that's where I've got a real
00:40:41.060 problem. But it's really his policies, which are not even his policies. I think his policies are the
00:40:47.420 policies of the people who are currently abusing him. It's the Green New Deal types. He's a very easily
00:40:54.400 manipulated, vulnerable old man and the green radicals of the Democrat Party. They're doing the
00:41:02.660 manipulating and we can see it playing out in his policies every single day. Hutch 101 writes,
00:41:09.220 the only success for Canada is for the Liberals, the millstone hanging around the necks of Canadians and
00:41:15.140 the only success will be them being voted out. You know, that is very true when you look at what is
00:41:23.440 currently hindering the Canadian economy. It is a lack of pipelines. It's carbon taxes. It's a hike in
00:41:31.540 the carbon tax. It's inflation. It's the price of buying a home in this country that is being driven up
00:41:41.660 by supply shortages because of hyperinflated immigration targets. All those things are liberal
00:41:49.580 policies. Some conservatives are talking about them. Some are not. But we do need a great reset,
00:41:59.960 to use the language of the left, of the political system in this country. And I think, I think we're about
00:42:05.760 to get it. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. If you'd
00:42:11.000 like to leave Ezra a line, drop him a line to read on the show here. These are his contact details.
00:42:19.800 If you want to leave a comment there, maybe your comment will be right on air. Again, I say,
00:42:24.200 we welcome your viewer feedback. We want to hear from you. You are our success. Anyway, that's the show
00:42:30.800 for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you to everybody in the studio in Toronto who
00:42:35.200 put the show together tonight as I did my best to fill in for the boss. And as Ezra always says,
00:42:43.300 keep fighting for freedom. Finally, a little bit of good news to report on the crooked politician
00:42:49.060 front. Sneaky Karen Selowitz, Richmond Hill's self-appointed queen of Ward 5, was recently found
00:42:56.920 guilty of fraud. Yet, despite the conviction, there remains a bitter aftertaste. In fact, the outcome
00:43:04.900 of the Selowitz fraud case makes me seriously question the justice system as well as the
00:43:11.100 municipal act when it comes to crime and punishment. Now, before I address that aspect, allow me to recap
00:43:19.800 Karen's odious shenanigans. Astute viewers might recall that last month, Rebel News aired
00:43:26.900 an exclusive interview with the person Karen Selowitz had hoodwinked. That would be Patty Burton
00:43:33.380 Garcia. Patty was hired by Selowitz to work as a part-time assistant for the councillor beginning
00:43:41.020 in the summer of 2019. Her salary was $25,000 and Patty was paid approximately $900 every two weeks.
00:43:50.200 But as soon as Patty received her first paycheck, things took a weird twist. Namely, Selowitz informed
00:43:59.740 Patty that she and her boyfriend, Derek Christie, would be taking the lion's share of Patty's paycheck.
00:44:07.180 Yeah, typically about $800. Eventually, Selowitz and Christie dinged Patty for some $21,000. In other words,
00:44:17.300 more than 80% of Patty's actual earnings. Now, the motive for Selowitz acting like the taxman on steroids
00:44:25.780 was apparently financial desperation. It was around this time period that Selowitz was in the process
00:44:33.120 of being docked a whopping 315 days pay. This was due to numerous successful complaints
00:44:41.760 that had been filed against Selowitz to the city of Richmond Hill's integrity commissioner regarding her
00:44:49.980 misbehavior. Now, losing 315 days worth of pay is quite a hefty penalty given that, oh, there's only
00:44:58.280 365 days in a year, but I digress. In any event, Patty actually agreed to this outrageous clawback of her
00:45:07.420 wages, given that she had a desire to contribute to public service and that she was making ends meet
00:45:14.300 thanks to her existing pension. But things came to an ugly head around tax time the following year.
00:45:23.680 Patty was informed by her accountant that because on paper she was earning that full salary, well,
00:45:30.840 she owed the Canadian Revenue Agency about $4,000. Patty was stunned and when Patty told Selowitz about the
00:45:39.880 impending tax hit, the councillor allegedly responded with three words, not my problem. Talk about chutzpah.
00:45:50.400 But it later became Karen's problem, all right. Oh, big time. Once law enforcement got involved,
00:45:57.040 this was fraud, plain and simple. And not only was Patty being defrauded, so too were the residents of
00:46:05.160 Richmond Hill, given these were tax dollars that Selowitz was redistributing, yeah, redistributing into
00:46:13.240 her own bank account, that is. Well, this case dragged through the courts for some 18 months, but last
00:46:20.180 week, a verdict was finally handed down. Selowitz was found guilty of fraud under $5,000. And according
00:46:28.620 to the court, Selowitz has already allegedly paid back the full restitution to the city of Richmond Hill.
00:46:38.120 Where this cash challenge person got the moolah is anyone's guess, however. But here's the thing,
00:46:46.280 this conviction was the result of a plea deal. The original charge was fraud over $5,000. And Selowitz
00:46:55.500 was also facing a charge of breach of trust by a public officer. She was caught red-handed. There was
00:47:03.480 evidence galore. So why a plea deal in the first place? And another thing that makes me question the
00:47:11.100 justice system pertaining to this case. And it's the so-called penalty. Most would argue that Selowitz
00:47:17.980 should be behind bars for what she did. But instead, this fraudster will serve a three-month
00:47:23.980 conditional sentence, meaning that she is simply required to remain in her residence daily between
00:47:31.240 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. except for emergencies. Wow, that's harsh. And yes, my tongue is firmly inserted
00:47:40.200 in my cheek, folks. Because you see, for the last several months, Selowitz has existed as a house
00:47:46.380 hermit. She hasn't even shown up to numerous council meetings in person, deciding to simply zoom in her
00:47:54.260 contributions such as they are. So how is it that being confined to quarters between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.
00:48:01.220 is a penalty in the first place when Selowitz has already volunteered to confine herself to quarters
00:48:08.840 on basically a 24-7 basis? And holy Patrick Brown Batman, in the aftermath of this humiliating
00:48:17.480 criminal conviction, you would think that Selowitz would be full of contrition and that she'd be
00:48:23.900 issuing mea culpas all around? But no. Like sneaky Patrick himself, a familiar pattern emerges, namely
00:48:32.440 Karen breaks the rules, Karen gets caught breaking the rules, and then Karen plays the victim card,
00:48:40.860 claiming that for some unfathomable reason, so many people are out to get her as part of some grand
00:48:48.100 conspiracy. It's pathetic. Now, we did reach out to Karen Selowitz to get her side of the story. We even
00:48:55.220 visited her condominium, but she declined to comment. However, she's all over social media shedding
00:49:03.720 crocodile tears about her plight while blaming others for her troubles. Her rants are vomit-inducing,
00:49:12.280 quite frankly, given how tone deaf she is. Indeed, check out this nugget, quote, over the past four and a half
00:49:20.260 years, I have been on the receiving end of ongoing hateful and hate-filled bullying, enduring abusive
00:49:28.220 and malicious treatment, including cyberbullying on Facebook, end quote. Oh, there's been bullying these
00:49:36.400 past four and a half years, all right. Except, Syphilitz was not on the receiving end. Rather, when it comes to
00:49:44.100 being a bully, she's the star quarterback. Case in point, you might recall her infamous recorded rant, in which
00:49:51.280 Karen went after Richmond Hill resident Steffi Goodfield. At the time, Steffi was a stage four cancer patient. And what was
00:50:01.320 Steffi's crime, you might ask? Well, Steffi had the utter gall to use the words Ward 5 to describe a music
00:50:10.800 festival she was organizing in Ward 5. But crazy, Karen, she apparently thinks she owns the copyright for
00:50:18.820 the term Ward 5. Check out this two-minute slice of utter insanity.
00:50:24.940 Please be advised that nobody but Richmond Hill councillors use the term Ward in any event unless you are a
00:50:35.740 councillor. So you can let him listen to this if he doesn't have the balls to call me back. But be advised,
00:50:41.900 Steffi, that if you in any way, or if Matt Bergman in any way calls your Sunday night jam at
00:50:48.760 Archibald's, the Ward 5 event, there is going to be serious problems that you are both going to have
00:50:55.100 to deal with legally. Astonishing. And much like how the good people of Brampton are cursed with
00:51:02.040 Patrick Brown, so too are the folks in Richmond Hill with Karen Sullivan. You see, under the Municipal Act,
00:51:11.100 she is still allowed to sit on council. And she's allowed to run for re-election in the fall.
00:51:16.660 But how can this be? It was just proven in a court of law that she defrauded the city out of
00:51:24.340 thousands of dollars. And now this fraudster can continue to carry out making financial decisions
00:51:32.500 on the behalf of the city? That's outrageous. And me thinks the Municipal Act clearly needs to be
00:51:40.020 revised so that elected fraudsters are kept away from the taxpayer-funded cookie jar.
00:51:47.020 For Rebel News, I'm David the Menzoid Menzies.
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