EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is Trudeau actually going to get rid of ArriveCAN？
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Is the Trudeau government actually going to get rid of the Arrive Can app? And is a 10-year-old girl in Kansas City, Missouri a terrorist? Ezra takes you through the evidence and his thoughts on the case.
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Hello, my friends. You know the Arrive Can app. What an invasion of privacy. It really is spyware,
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malware that the government forces on you. Looks like the Liberal Party's thinking of
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abandoning it, or at least making it non-mandatory. Now I'll believe it when I see it, but I'll take
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you through the evidence and my thoughts on it. And then we'll talk about a crazy case
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in Kansas City, Missouri, where a 10-year-old child, well, you know what? I won't tell it now.
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I'll let the family tell it, and our reporter on the scene, Jeremy Lafredo. But first, let me
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Tonight, is the Trudeau government actually going to get rid of the Arrive Can app?
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It's September 22nd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Have you ever read the fine print in your passport? There's not a lot of it, actually.
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Maybe you have read it once when you were killing time in an airport, or more likely,
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maybe you have in the last two years as your freedom of mobility was infringed by the Trudeau
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government. The whole passport, it's actually a wonderful document. It took me months, but I got
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mine renewed this summer. What an atrocious mess that whole thing was and still is. Did you know
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that as of the summer, at least, a majority of passport staff were still working from home
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because of the pandemic? I'm serious. No wonder the backlog was months and months, and panicky
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travelers who had to leave soon were camped outside of passport offices, waiting hours or even days
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to get theirs filled for urgent travel. Pierre Polyev was right when he said the government that
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can't even run a passport office wants to run your life so pitiful. But I finally got mine,
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and it's actually a beautiful document. On every page in the inside where you get it stamped
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is another image of a Canadian moment or theme, sports, industry, scenery. It's actually beautifully
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done, and though there's an electronic chip in the cover of the passport, it is still largely an
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old-fashioned document. It's a little book with a pretty tough cover, pocket size. They really want to
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get rid of it, just like they want to get rid of other physical things like cash, or instead they
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want to put microchips in cash like they have with the passport. They really want to destroy the old
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customs and beauty of it. But back to the very first page in the passport, which is really the
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whole thing in a nutshell. That first page, I'll read it to you. The Minister of Foreign Affairs of
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Canada requests in the name of Her Majesty the Queen, all those whom it may concern, to allow the
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bearer to pass freely without delay or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection
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as may be necessary. That's it. 46 words, one sentence. It's all you need. The Queen says the
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person who holds this book is a Canadian. Please let them pass freely. New passports, I presume,
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will now say King instead of Queen. Now, whether or not other countries do let the bearer pass without
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hindrance is a matter of politics and international relations, but when it comes to our own country,
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the Queen, now the King, is the personification of the state. She is superior to any politician or to
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Parliament, and she says if you have this passport, you can come home without delay or hindrance. It's
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a mighty thing. I mean, Trudeau himself once believed that. He said that even if you're a terrorist, he said,
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even if you've committed terrorist murder and rape overseas, you can still come back to Canada.
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This was a bill, flip forward, by a member of Parliament who is himself an immigrant, Devinder Shory.
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This is not the standards we expect. Immigrants, Canadians, all of us who are here expect that we would have
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a minimum bar that people would not, people who come here would not be guilty of trying to plan
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The individual in question, Mr. Trudeau, you devalue the citizenship of every Canadian
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in this place and in this country when you break down and make it conditional for anyone.
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We have the rule of law in this country, and you can't take away citizens like someone does.
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It's awful how much he loves terrorists, but there is some truth to his argument.
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Even our criminals are still citizens. Quite something that he would insist on the rights
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of terrorists to come into Canada, but not the rights of unvaccinated people.
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Now, don't get me wrong. If you are unvaxxed, you can come into the country, but not quite.
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Certainly not without delay or hindrance, am I right?
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Because you have to fill out that infernal Arrive Can app now.
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I've never done it because I have not left the country since the before times.
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Unlike Omar Khadr, the al-Qaeda terrorist, I am on the no-fly list in terms of foreign flying.
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I can fly domestically in Canada now, but I can't go to the U.S., and if I were to go there,
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I'd have to quarantine for two weeks upon return to Canada, which I cannot afford to do, of course.
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Here is a two-minute propaganda video by the Canadian government describing the app
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If you are traveling by air, land, or water, you are required to provide essential information
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Arrive Can is a user-friendly digital tool to help travelers comply with Canada's border measures
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quickly and securely. It is available as a mobile app or by signing in online.
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Within the 72 hours before your arrival in Canada, or before boarding a cruise ship destined
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for Canada, you must use Arrive Can to submit your contact and travel details, including where
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you've been and where you're going, your COVID-19 vaccination information, your pre-entry COVID-19
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test results, and your quarantine plan. You may be exempt from some of these requirements.
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If you are a fully vaccinated traveler, you must submit your proof of vaccination in Arrive Can
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to be considered exempt from certain public health requirements.
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You must be ready to show your Arrive Can receipt to your airline carrier, cruise operator,
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and to border officials when seeking entry into Canada.
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After entering Canada, travelers who are required to quarantine or isolate must confirm that they
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have arrived at their place of quarantine or isolation. During their quarantine period,
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travelers must provide a daily COVID-19 symptom self-assessment. This must be done through Arrive
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Can or by calling the toll-free number. Use Arrive Can by signing in online at Canada.ca
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slash Arrive Can or by downloading the latest version of the mobile app through Google Play or the Apple
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App Store. For more information, including whether you're eligible to enter Canada, call
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1-833-283-7403 or visit Canada.ca slash Arrive Can.
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Now, it's a lie to say it is easy to do. It's just a lie. Reports from various border crossings say up to
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half of people cannot do it, can't do it properly. Just the glitches or they don't know how. If you don't
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have a smartphone, you can't do it at all. Obviously, if you're overseas and can't get online, you can't do it.
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People from all over the world have to do it, but the app is only in English and French and I think maybe
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Spanish too. It's not in Chinese or German or Arabic or whatever other language people speak coming to
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Canada. Maybe you saw that story about a whole Boy Scout troop stranded overseas. Here's a CTV
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propaganda story trying to spin it. Young Scouts stuck in Zurich after missing Air Canada flight to Toronto.
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But that's not really the story, is it? It's not until you're deep into the story that you
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get what should have been the lead when you realize they didn't miss their flight. They were there on
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time. They didn't do anything wrong at all. In fact, it was the Arrive Can app. Let me quote.
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But on their way home, the Bancroft contingent faced challenges with the Arrive Can app. The leaders
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had entered the group's information on the app, but when they arrived at the airport, they discovered
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only the information for the two adults was logged. They also couldn't get Wi-Fi at the airport because
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they didn't have a local phone number. Unpossible! The propaganda video said it was so easy to do.
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But back to the passport. These were Canadian citizens. They were children. They had to be
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treated carefully. Imagine stranding children overseas. What happened to without delay or hindrance?
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What happened to that part? But here's the thing. If they were in Toronto at the airport border desk
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or if they were at a border crossing by land, they actually could come into Canada even without the
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Arrive Can app. The government might hector them or badger them or lecture them about taking tests
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or quarantining at home. The government might try and boss them around for sure, but they would legally
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be entitled to enter the country. They're Canadian citizens. But what Trudeau did, and this is so
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atrocious and so unforgivable, is that he ordered Canadian airlines to enforce this app for him.
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That's what happened to the Boy Scouts. They had to show Air Canada that they filled out the app or
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Air Canada wouldn't let them on the plane. Now, obviously, this isn't Air Canada's idea. They're
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not interested in bullying their passengers. They're not border guards. They're not health officials.
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But Trudeau said to Air Canada and to WestJet and other Canadian airlines that if they didn't
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enforce his app, he would fine and punish that airline too. Imagine how evil that is. You will
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be stranded from your own country, forbidden from getting on a plane to your own country unless you
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fill out some bloody app. They actually can't stop you from coming into the country once you're at the
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border if you can make it to the border. But they have commandeered the airlines, making them the
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enforcers. And it's one thing for you to get a fine for not filling out paperwork, but physically
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stopping you from coming back to your country by bullying Air Canada into bullying you. That is
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outrageous. That is illegal. That is vengeful. That is unscientific. And so utterly on brand for
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Justin Trudeau and his immoral war against anyone who dares to defy him.
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Oui, on va s'en sortir de cette pandémie par la vaccination. Puis on en connaît tous des gens qui sont
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en train d'hésiter un petit peu. On va continuer d'essayer de les convaincre. Mais il y a aussi des gens qui sont
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farouchement opposés à la vaccination. Ils sont extrémistes. Qui ne croient pas dans la science, qui sont
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souvent misogynes, souvent racistes aussi. C'est un petit groupe, mais qui prend de la place. Et là, il faut
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faire un choix en tant que leader, en tant que pays. Est-ce qu'on tolère?
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I showed you that's happening. I showed you the Boy Scouts. There are countless other stories I've
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read and people I've spoken to personally telling me their stories, how they were not allowed on the
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plane because the planes are scared of Trudeau punishing them. One lady told me she was coming
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back to Canada on WestJet. WestJet refused to let her board without the Arrive Can app, so she had to
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buy another ticket, last minute, extremely expensive, on a foreign-based airline because they don't follow
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Trudeau's bullying orders. So it's happening. But look at the lie right there on the app. If you go
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to the App Store, this is how the app describes itself. Travelers with a right to enter Canada,
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such as Canadian citizens, will not be denied boarding of their flight or entry to Canada if
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they do not use Arrive Can. Well, that's a lie. A thousand times it's been proved a lie. They are
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liars. So Trudeau is forcing the airlines to violate not only the passport, but our essential
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rights as Canadians, we have to answer some questions at the border and whether or not
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there are quarantine rules to follow or the foolishness of testing yourself for two weeks
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without a folly. Let's put all those things aside because none of that goes to whether
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you can or can't enter your own country, right? Trudeau is literally banning you from your country
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unless you fill out his spyware app. He won't let you even get to Canada. You know what spyware is,
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right? It's like an app that spies on you, that gets details about you. That is explicitly what
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this is. In fact, it forces you to give data, but it's also malware. Do you know what that word means?
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Software that's malicious. And that's what this Arrive Can is. It's not just invading your privacy. It's
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giving your secret private data to bad actors, to lobbyists, to hucksters, to drug companies,
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to foreign governments, anyone Trudeau wants to. It's unlimited really. They literally can give it
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to anyone they want. This is again from the App Store. Personal information may be disclosed to
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contractors working for the Public Health Agency of Canada and Service Canada, as well as the following
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entities, other government institutions, as well as provincial, territorial, municipal governments,
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or international health organizations, as well as their institutions for these purposes. That is
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an unlimited list for an unlimited set of reasons. And according to Apple, and it's the same on the
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Android store, this privacy policy is just what Trudeau told them. Let me quote,
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this information has not been verified by Apple, so it could be much worse.
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And here, this is from the app also. I didn't download the app, I was just reading the privacy policy.
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This is so key. Remember in the propaganda video,
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they said you had to answer some questions. And those are bad enough. But look at what
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this app will extract from your cell phone, without asking you.
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Anything in your phone's health and fitness information. Did you see that?
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Now my phone is an Apple, and it's attached to my Apple Watch, which has a great deal of information
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about me from my heart rate, to when I exercise, and where it's attached to my GPS, so it knows where
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I am. So how much I exercise, any health info I type in, it just steals that. Unrelated to anything.
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And it gives it to Trudeau's lobbyists, or contractors, or China, or literally whoever they want.
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But now come rumors that Trudeau will end the mandatory use of a ride can.
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And perhaps end some of the other punishments too. Now the rumors are all published by the media
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party, the Toronto Star, the CBC. So they're obviously regurgitating what the regime wants
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them to say. Probably Trudeau testing the waters to see how the public health deep state will react to
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this. All of the stories note that Trudeau himself hasn't finally signed off on the change. I mean,
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he's pretty busy, give him a break, between singing Queen songs in bars in London, and now he's partying
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in New York with Jacinda Ardern, and then he's off to Japan for another funeral. Hopefully he won't
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do any karaoke when he's down there, cause yet another international incident. So it might be
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hard to pin down this jet setter for a moment to actually do some work. Sorry about that.
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Everyone seems to think Arrive Can will be shelved as soon as next week, and of course I hope it will be.
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But I'm also a bit skeptical because if you look at Arrive Can as a health measure,
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of course it should be scrapped. It's ridiculous. I mean, even sleepy Joe Biden knows the pandemic is
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over. Mr. President, first Detroit auto show in three years. Yeah. Is the pandemic over?
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The pandemic is over. We still have a problem with COVID. We're still doing a lot of work on it.
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It's, but the pandemic is over. If you notice, no one's wearing masks. Everybody seems to be in
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pretty good shape. And so I think it's changing, and I think this is a perfect example. The whole
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world is over it now, not just Florida. It's a joke now. Wearing a mask now is a joke. Imagine
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quarantining for two weeks, even if you're not sick, even if your test says you're not. It's never been
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about health. It's not about health. It has never been about health. So if you think that this might
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be ended for health reasons, you are missing the whole point. The app was not made to deal with
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COVID. It's the other way around. COVID was the excuse used to justify the app. The app isn't the
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means to the end. It is the end result itself. It's what they want. COVID was the excuse to justification.
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Just ask the World Economic Forum's deep thinker, Yuval Noah Harari.
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And COVID is critical because this is what convinces people to accept, to legitimize
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total biometric surveillance. If we want to stop this epidemic, we need not just to monitor people,
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we need to monitor what's happening under their skin. That's why I'm not 100% convinced Trudeau will
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give up a Ravcat first because he hates the unvaccinated and anyone else who ever opposes
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him. He says as much. Would you support policies that prioritize
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vaccinated patients over those who are unvaccinated who are in there because they made that choice?
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I have heard from healthcare professionals across the country who are, as we know, exhausted from the
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past year and a half, who are worried about their own loved ones, who are working incredibly hard
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to keep all Canadians safe, whether they're vaccinated or unvaccinated, but who are expressing
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increasing frustration and little bits of anger that they are spending so much of their time
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trying to save people who could have saved themselves. And now is the time for people who are still
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resistant to getting vaccinated to realize that that choice, which has consequences on putting our
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kids at risk, which has consequences at having us risk more lockdowns because they haven't chosen to get
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vaccinated yet, that there will be consequences for those people in not being able to go to a gym or a
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restaurant, not being able to go to a movie theater, not being able to get on a train or a plane.
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You don't want to comment on the triage because it's a provincial jurisdiction, but so are movies,
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so are gyms, all of those types of things. And you also say you look pretty angry about it,
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that they're putting kids and people who are vulnerable at risk. Are they not putting some
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people who may not get the treatment they need in hospitals at risk? And yes, we can all say to a
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certain extent that it is unfortunate that people who chose not to get vaccinated are now the ones
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clogging up our ICU systems and our hospital beds that should be available for people who did
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their work and did get vaccinated. That is really unfortunate. And that is why we are unequivocal.
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They don't get to put others at risk by not getting vaccinated.
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But second, Trudeau is fully on board with China style social credit, tracking you, spying on you,
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punishing you. He doesn't want to give that up. Now, I hope this all ends next week, but even
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if they do end it, don't think they wouldn't try and bring it back in if they could. Stay with us for more.
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I think the most terrifying thing of the pandemic has been not just that adults were forced to get
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the jab, but children were forced to on pain of being kicked out of school or even worse,
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marginalized, demonized. Children were the victims in so many ways of forced masking.
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And this story I'm about to tell you is about children actually being, well, I think kidnapped is
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the most accurate way of describing it. A young child named Evelyn in Kansas City, Missouri, brought
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to the hospital by her family. And when they started to ask questions about the treatment,
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they were told she no longer, they no longer had authority over her. And they were looking to bring
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in authorities as in police to physically stop the child from leaving with the parents. Instead of my
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secondhand telling the story, let me now introduce you to Jeremy Lafredo, our New York based correspondent
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who spent the last few days in Kansas City meeting with the family and the lawyers. Jeremy, great to
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see you again. You're always doing interesting work. I want to make sure I've accurately described what is
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happening to Evelyn and her parents. Why don't you give us a summary? I want to make sure we get this
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just exactly factually accurate. Sure. Yeah, this is a harrowing story out of Kansas City, Missouri.
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We have the Children's Mercy Hospital. It's one of the most prestigious children's research hospitals
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in the Midwest. And they've been accused time and time again by different families of, you know,
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they're calling it, quote, medical kidnapping. Now, what is medical kidnapping? It's when a family
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brings their child to the doctor or to the hospital. And once the family, you know, disagrees with the
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treatment or has questions or concerns or, you know, is a, you know, sufficient advocate for the
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child, the hospital calls child protective services or, you know, the state and they get involved and
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they no longer have custody over their own children. This is what we call medical kidnapping.
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So this is what's happening to a 10 year old Evelyn Young in Kansas City. Her family brought her in
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because she had a swollen face and a swollen tummy. And after the hospital tried a few things,
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they tried a pharmaceutical treatment that actually made Evelyn go temporarily blind
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and caused encephalopathy, which is the swelling of the brain. So the family was, you know, very upset,
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very angry at this. And when they told the hospital that they disagreed with the treatment is when
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child protective services was called. So right now they're in a legal battle for the custody of their
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own daughter, which they brought to the hospital because they were concerned for her health. And
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Rebel News actually got involved. We got involved. We went to Kansas City.
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We're helping the, we're trying to help the family get back custody of their child
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at SaveEvelyn.com. You can go there and you can donate to their legal fund. We're going to try to
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help them get the child back. And you can sign a petition, which I'm actually going to personally bring
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to the hospital's board of directors, which I've looked. There's some conflicts of interest. They
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have some pharmaceutical companies on there and some, some federal agencies on there. I'm going to
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bring it to the, um, the board of directors and we're going to try to get Evelyn back.
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All right. Well, you've said a lot of things. So I want to talk in a moment about the campaign
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we're doing. I personally have spoken with Evelyn's mom and I've had a detailed conversation with
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a lawyer right there in Kansas City, Missouri, who has been engaged by the family. And I can confirm
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what you've just said, Jeremy, that we have signed an agreement. We will cover the legal bills for this
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family to get their daughter out. In a moment, we're going to get to what we're going to do in
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the campaign, the petition and the lawyering. But first I want to show a clip from when you,
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Jeremy, were in Kansas City, Missouri, and we're talking with the young family.
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When we tried to take Evelyn out, I had like, you know, legal wording written out on a paper,
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even like memorized so that I could say like, we do have the right. She's non-emergent.
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She, her vitals are stable. So you don't have a right to like claim her. Where we were stationed,
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um, in the hospital, there was a little, there was a little boy who needed an armed guard there.
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And so the guard was there all the time because of that boy. And as soon as he heard we wanted to
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take her out, I may, he stood up from his thing. I was like, yep, this is not going to go well.
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I know they're not going to let us leave, even though we have a legal right to get her a second
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opinion. And because her vitals were stable and she was non-emergent, we had a legal right to take
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her out, not just like file for one and do it online or whatever. The Young's questioning of
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Children's Mercy Hospital procedures and the destructive treatment the hospital was giving their daughter
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was regarded by the hospital officials as disregard for medical professionals and therefore
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an endangerment to their own daughter, Evelyn. The hospital didn't let the family leave
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and place an armed guard in the room. So guards stood in our way. One even like slammed his foot
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down it, um, into the wheelchair, um, so that we couldn't leave like with my 10 year old in the
00:25:42.520
wheelchair. Like he was the worst. They was like, let us just give us a minute and we'll like print off
00:25:47.720
the paperwork for you. And I was immediately like, they're getting a social worker. I know they're
00:25:51.560
getting a social worker. Then they told us she can't leave the hospital without her PICC line
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removed, which is like an IV thing. I was like, well, you've got two minutes to take it out. And
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then we're going to take her to the next place. Um, and they're like, we'll get the stuff, blah, blah,
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blah. But then it, like within just a couple of minutes, like, well, we're, we can't, we can't take
00:26:08.680
the PICC line out. I'm like, so you're refusing to let us go based on the PICC line, but you're also
00:26:13.400
refusing to take it out. You guys are creeping me the hell out. You haven't listened to us. You have
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endangered my daughter's life. She's been vomiting for like 13 hours and she's declining
00:26:23.800
in your care, not advancing. We were there, I think for like almost two hours total in,
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in the hallway. And at, at the beginning, there was just two guards that came up,
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but for the brunt of it, there was always seven minimum and more usually coming in and out. Um,
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and all of them had guns on the, on, in holsters. So what do you do in that scenario,
00:26:46.440
even when they're doing things illegally, what do you do when there's a gun? Like,
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see, I said like a day before to the doctor, you've got a gun to our head.
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And now they literally had guns. It wasn't a euphemism for me.
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They placed a 12 hour hold on Evelyn. And after 12 hours,
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Terrifying. I mean, terrifying. Who do you call?
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How do you call police when it's the police enforcing the child being taken away from you?
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Now you met the mom, you met the dad and you met the lawyer. Do they have a plan for getting that
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kid out of there? I talked to the lawyer a little bit, so I think I know it. What's the latest?
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They're going to try and move this to a more sympathetic jurisdiction where the family has
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ties and they're going to try and get an emergency order to get the kid out. Like that's happening right
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away, isn't it? It's, it's happening as soon as possible. They're trying to get it done right now.
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What's happening is the hospital is in Missouri. The family is from Kansas. And it's Missouri that
00:27:48.200
wants to take custody of Evelyn Young. So they're trying to get, they're trying to get the child
00:27:54.920
protective services first in Kansas to have custody of Evelyn. And then they're going to try to take
00:28:01.080
custody from child protective services back to the parents. So first they need to change states and then
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they need to get the custody from the state to the parents. All right. Here's a clip of the lawyer
00:28:11.720
who I spoke with. She's about 25 years at the bar. So this is a pretty seasoned lawyer, not just some
00:28:19.240
kid. I spoke with her. I had confidence. I liked her strategy. Here's a little word from the family
00:28:26.280
lawyer. Our first goal is to get the custody of Evelyn back to Justin and Jesse. And I think that
00:28:34.840
if we can get reasonable people to look at the facts in this case, I think it's very obvious
00:28:40.760
on our side that this is not a medical neglect case. This is a case of two parents who have done
00:28:48.760
an enormous amount of research and want to do what is best for their child. And so questioning
00:28:54.920
any type of medication or procedure or wanting a second opinion is not neglect in our eyes. It is
00:29:00.760
actually doing their due diligence and being good parents. Well, you know, Rebel News does this a lot
00:29:08.600
in Canada, Jeremy. We do it a bit in the United Kingdom and we've done it in Australia to hire a
00:29:13.880
lawyer, a civil liberties oriented lawyer to help a family that's not wealthy. And I spoke to them on
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these. This is not a rich family. They don't have a lot of dough. Even at the reduced rate,
00:29:25.160
the lawyer is charging. There's no way this family can go up against this mighty hospital with unlimited
00:29:31.320
coffers. So I'm sort of excited that we're going to try this. This is a classic Rebel News move.
00:29:37.960
Tell a story, but then try and do something about it. We've never done this in America before, Jeremy,
00:29:43.240
but I'm hopeful that if this works, we could do more and more of this
00:29:46.280
citizen activism combined with our citizen journalism. What do you think?
00:29:51.960
Yeah, I mean, I think this is a great place to start. This is a family who's, you know, their
00:29:57.000
child that they love very much has been stolen by this giant health institution and the state is
00:30:03.160
enforcing it. So, you know, to throw our gloves in the ring with this one is really a great place
00:30:09.160
Yeah, I started off by talking about the lockdowns and how children were persecuted. This is not a
00:30:13.800
pandemic case. This is a regular case of medical kidnapping. And that's a terrifying phrase.
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What do you do when the authorities are the ones doing the kidnapping? Who do you call? Well, in this
00:30:26.440
case, you call a civil liberal lawyer and Rebel News will be there. We've set up that website that you
00:30:30.520
mentioned. We set it up. It's called Save Evelyn dot com. So I'm in Canada and I would invite all our
00:30:38.440
viewers, whether you're in Canada, the United States or anywhere in the world to consider signing
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that petition. Jeremy will take it to the hospital. And I'm hopeful that we can. I mean, I've I've only
00:30:48.120
heard of cases like this before, but usually not in America. America is more free than this. I've
00:30:52.120
heard of a terrible case in the UK before. If we can make a difference here, Jeremy, I bet
00:30:57.320
other families will make themselves known to you and say, well, we've got a terrible. I mean, I
00:31:03.080
can't think that this is a one off. I bet there's a whole world of families who made the wrong choice
00:31:09.560
in the eyes of a hospital or a big pharmaceutical. And they say, well, we're going to take your kid.
00:31:13.960
I bet that there's a lot going under the surface here. You're already being proven right, Ezra. I
00:31:19.560
mean, since going to Kansas City and poking around, you know, there is a tiny community of parents there
00:31:25.560
in the Midwest who've had their children taken from them by this hospital and they didn't have the
00:31:30.520
resources to get it back. You know, thankfully with Evelyn, you know, we're getting it early
00:31:36.440
and we're getting involved early. So hopefully we can we can help out here. But there's definitely
00:31:40.440
other cases that are similar to this. And it's a shame. Yeah. Well, Jeremy, you're fairly new to
00:31:44.280
the Rebel News team. I know we've talked to you a couple of times before, but we're still getting
00:31:48.600
to know you and your kind of journalism. You really have a penchant for sticking up for the underdog.
00:31:53.800
And that is our Rebel News style. And Rebel News itself is not wealthy. We're not sitting on
00:31:58.920
millions and millions of dollars that hiring this lawyer is easy for us. It's the opposite.
00:32:03.160
It's because we have thousands of ordinary folks chipping in twenty five or fifty bucks
00:32:08.360
that we can appear to be big like a puffer fish when it's actually just lots of little
00:32:13.480
Davids banding together to go after the Goliath. And I'm really hopeful. I've talked to the mom.
00:32:19.400
I've talked to the lawyer. Obviously, I'm following your work there. I don't want to get my hopes too high,
00:32:25.080
but I think that we've got a real chance here. So thanks for your great work. And please keep us
00:32:28.760
updated because I know this is all going to go down in the next week or so.
00:32:33.560
I definitely will. All right. There you have it. Jeremy Lafredo,
00:32:36.120
our New York based reporter in the U.S. of A. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:32:39.960
You know, there's a theme between the two stories we talked about today. The first was the Arrive Can
00:32:56.600
app. Violating your privacy, violating your personal autonomy, picking on kids. Can you imagine
00:33:03.000
stranding Boy Scouts overseas? Oh, and then blaming it on Air Canada. Air Canada was a kind of victim,
00:33:09.240
too. They actually did some bullying themselves, but it was only because a bigger bully was bullying
00:33:14.840
them. But litigation may be the answer. As you know, the Democracy Fund has filed a constitutional
00:33:24.040
challenge to the Arrive Can app. And I think there's some overlap with that second case, Jeremy
00:33:29.240
Lafredo reporting on Evelyn Young, the 10 year old girl being medically kidnapped. Journalism can help,
00:33:37.000
but I think sometimes you need a lawyer. Now you need a good judge even more than you need a good
00:33:41.880
lawyer. We're going to try in both the Democracy Fund, which is the charity spinoff that does civil
00:33:49.240
liberty's law. They're working on the Arrive Can app. If Trudeau does not abandon it in a week,
00:33:54.200
that constitutional challenge will proceed. And hopefully it'll proceed even if Trudeau does take
00:33:58.280
his foot off our neck. But this case of a 10 year old child, imagine going into a hospital.
00:34:03.960
They give your daughter an experimental drug. She goes temporarily blind. And then when you say,
00:34:09.000
I want to get out of here, they say, no, Child Protective Services is coming. I can't think of
00:34:13.400
anything more scary. Well, we're going to be involved with both of these battles. You know it.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of us here in Rebel World Headquarters to you at home,
00:34:26.520
Angelica Toy for Obel News. I am out in downtown Calgary to gather public opinion on a net zero concept
00:34:31.560
proposed by Liberal Minister of Transportation, Omar Algebra, where he plans to ban fossil fuel-based
00:34:37.160
vehicles by 2035. Today, we can say there are several plans that are being announced
00:34:43.720
for building these cars here at home, for building the products associated like batteries and car
00:34:51.880
components here at home. And we invested in our budget close to half a billion dollars to help
00:35:00.280
municipalities and regions build infrastructure for refueling those vehicles. So we are working
00:35:08.360
at it from different levels. Yes, it feels that we're behind and we all need to work together to
00:35:13.640
get to that goal, but we're all committed to getting there.
00:35:16.600
I understand why they're doing it for the environment. However, I think it's a little
00:35:21.800
short-sighted in a lot of ways. Number one, we cannot turn off oil and gas at all. We're going to need
00:35:29.080
it in other ways for one thing. For another thing, the infrastructure isn't there to support electric
00:35:35.080
vehicles with charging with the electrical grid. Plus, in Alberta, how is our electricity created? By
00:35:44.200
burning gas. So either way, it's really seriously going to affect us poorly. I think electric cars are
00:35:54.840
interesting. It's a step forward. As with anything else, we move on. Just like phones one time didn't
00:36:04.440
have a screen on it, and now they do, and we can browse the internet on them. So it's kind of the
00:36:08.440
next step, but I think it's very short-sighted. I think it's terrible. That's all I've got to say.
00:36:13.880
It's terrible. It's awful. What are you going to do? Stop people driving their favorite car? They
00:36:17.800
can't do that. It should be illegal. That would not be 2035. That's like how many years now? 30 years.
00:36:25.160
I think it's better to kind of like make the production of the, you know, regular gas vehicles just decrease
00:36:33.560
the production and increase the production of the electric vehicles. If you want to do that,
00:36:38.840
I think banning completely, it's, it's going to be a little bit difficult because not everybody can
00:36:45.800
afford an electric vehicle. At least I can afford one right now. So these rebates seem to be for
00:36:51.880
people who can afford, you know, fairly expensive cars. Well, I mean, it's true that electric vehicles
00:36:59.720
are, are, are more expensive than, than internal combustion engine. Although experts tell us that
00:37:05.320
they won't be much of a price difference in the coming years. Is it 2025 or 2026? Maybe even before
00:37:11.640
that. By 2035? Um, good luck. I'm not sure if that's going to happen, but I wouldn't be against it.
00:37:20.840
Well, I probably wouldn't be excited about it because to be honest with you, our electric grid can't handle
00:37:26.280
that many electric vehicles charging. Right? So I don't think oil and gas is going away for a while.
00:37:32.360
Right? It's ambitious and it, and it has to come with massive infrastructure right across the country,
00:37:38.280
like charging stations. So I'm wondering, is Canada ready for that?
00:37:45.800
I would agree with you. It is an ambitious target. Are we ready? I'd say we are getting ready.
00:37:50.520
Um, if you look at provinces like British Columbia and Quebec, which have put in place incentive
00:37:56.040
programs many years ago, which have put in place mandatory sales vehicle for car manufacturers,
00:38:02.280
we're already around 12, 13, 14% of, uh, of new sales, uh, that are, uh, electric vehicles or
00:38:09.800
plugging hybrids. So going from 14 to 20% in these two provinces will, will not be that difficult.
00:38:16.600
Would you say you're a fan of electric vehicles?
00:38:23.800
No, I just really like a reliable car. I mean, I wouldn't like, maybe I'd consider it if I bought
00:38:29.080
a new car, but I wouldn't buy, change the car I have just to get an electrical one.
00:38:33.720
Would you think an electrical vehicle would be, like you said, reliable, say during the winter time?
00:38:38.840
Um, I'm not sure. I know there's a lot of debate, like electrical engineers say yes, but
00:38:42.760
some people are worried about the battery lasting through harsh winters. Maybe not so much here,
00:38:47.880
but I moved here from Canmore. So there, I don't think I trust it.
00:38:52.120
California, um, electric vehicles have been pushed quite greatly in the last little while.
00:38:56.440
And currently they are facing an energy crisis where, um, they can't meet the electrical needs.
00:39:01.320
So they're being told that they can't charge their vehicles. Would you still be willing up to give
00:39:05.160
up your freedom to drive in an energy crisis? Um, I guess that's a hard question. Um, yeah,
00:39:16.280
I guess I, yeah. I'm walking today, but it's a very complicated situation, isn't it?
00:39:21.880
How are we going to do it? So yeah, thank you. Unfortunately, our politicians haven't figured out
00:39:27.080
the science behind the issue. Would you say you're a fan of electric vehicles?
00:39:30.920
Uh, yeah, we get a lot of work from them. So I'm an electrician, right? So yeah.
00:39:35.160
Do you know how the batteries are produced? Uh, I know lithium is not very good for you and
00:39:40.200
it's not a good thing and you can't dispose of it. You can't protect yourself against the lithium,
00:39:44.600
right? So how do they protect people that are mining it? And then, you know, 20, 30 years from now,
00:39:49.480
if we can't get rid of these lithium batteries, how are we supposed to dispose of these?
00:39:53.880
Right? Like they're going to have like a massive pile of them. What are you gonna do? Ship them to China?
00:39:58.280
Like, I don't think so, right? So while some people promote this idea as a breakthrough towards
00:40:03.320
green energy, others see it as an attack on the environment and on the fossil fuel industry in
00:40:07.800
Canada, specifically in Alberta. Speaking to people around town, we can come to see that this
00:40:12.200
is also an economic and an ethical issue. How are people supposed to afford electric-based vehicles
00:40:17.640
when not all of us can afford oil-based vehicles currently and the electric ones are much more
00:40:22.600
expensive? And it also raises questions on how we dispose of these batteries and the production
00:40:28.520
behind them because these aren't renewable, they aren't recyclable, and it starts to affect our
00:40:33.960
environment and the people that are around such toxic chemicals. And it sounds great, but it is a huge
00:40:42.840
change. This is a very big country. You know, people use their car a lot to go from one city to the other.
00:40:48.840
That's why I asked you about charging stations, right? A colleague of ours went from, you know,
00:40:56.120
Ontario to the Atlantic provinces and, you know, sort of chronicled his ride. And it was not easy.
00:41:04.760
It took, you know, a day and a half more because there were no charging stations.
00:41:09.160
So you will have to accompany this ambitious 20 percent by 2026 of sales of electric vehicles
00:41:18.680
with a huge infrastructure across the country, even in remote areas.
00:41:25.560
Absolutely. And so I don't personally own a vehicle. I've never owned one, but my service vehicle as
00:41:31.880
minister is 100 percent electric vehicle. So I totally understand what some of the challenges are. I'm