Rebel News Podcast - February 13, 2024


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Israel closes in on final Hamas stronghold in Gaza — so naturally the Trudeau Liberals want a ceasefire


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42 minutes

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171.64955

Word Count

7,324

Sentence Count

502

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

51


Summary

Israel is closing in on the final headquarters of Hamas in Gaza, and Joe Biden and Melanie Jolie don t want Israel to finish the job. It would be like telling the Red Army not to take Berlin in 1945. Why? I ll take you through it and show you an exciting video of two hostages being rescued last night.


Transcript

00:00:00.160 Hello, my friends. Today, I talk about Israel closing in on the final headquarters of Hamas in the Gaza town called Rafi.
00:00:10.000 And strangely, Joe Biden and Melanie Jolie don't want Israel to finish the job.
00:00:15.440 It would be like telling the Red Army not to take Berlin in 1945. Why?
00:00:20.060 I'll take you through it and show you an exciting video of two hostages being rescued last night.
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00:00:34.980 Like today, for example, I want to show you the hostages being released.
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00:00:56.540 All right, here's today's podcast.
00:01:14.320 Tonight, Israel closes in on the final Hamas stronghold in Gaza.
00:01:19.320 So naturally, Trudeau and Biden want Israel to stop.
00:01:22.880 It's February 12th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:25.440 We're ready for freedom!
00:01:28.420 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:01:31.760 Some hopeful news last night.
00:01:42.820 Two Israeli hostages being held by Hamas in Gaza were freed by Israeli special forces.
00:01:49.560 Fernando Simon Marnon, saying his name, right?
00:01:54.520 And Norberto Luis Haar were rescued.
00:01:58.000 Here, watch as their family greets them at a hospital back in Israel where they were brought after they were rescued.
00:02:03.760 The erich is called Walesa.
00:02:06.560 Let me gather this hand.
00:02:08.640 Thank you, folks.
00:02:09.880 Good morning, everyone.
00:02:31.060 Bye, bye, bye.
00:02:31.640 Those two men were amongst the 200-plus hostages
00:02:59.420 that Hamas took when they invaded southern Israel
00:03:02.160 on October 7th of last year.
00:03:04.760 They murdered more than 1,200 Israelis,
00:03:06.960 but their real prize was taking hostages back to Gaza.
00:03:11.560 Many of them were young women who were at an outdoor concert
00:03:15.180 not far from Gaza when they were grabbed.
00:03:18.840 Many of them were raped and murdered,
00:03:20.480 but some were kept alive as bargaining chips
00:03:23.020 to get convicted Hamas terrorists released from Israeli jails
00:03:26.640 and obviously as human shields to stop Israel from striking back.
00:03:31.460 Here's a video of Hamas terrorists filmed by the terrorists themselves
00:03:35.200 as they kidnapped literally three generations from the same family,
00:03:39.540 including babies less than a year old.
00:03:42.160 Just watch this to remember who Hamas is and how this war started.
00:03:46.240 They didn't hide it.
00:03:47.500 They boasted about it online.
00:03:49.680 They live-streamed it.
00:03:51.280 Remember this?
00:03:51.820 You get rid of them.
00:04:00.960 You get rid of themì•„ p silences.
00:04:05.320 You get rid of them.
00:04:10.640 You look for a once in a while.
00:04:12.220 You get rid of them them.
00:04:20.420 I've seen some reports that those particular babies have been killed,
00:04:34.000 but it might be Hamash propaganda or psychological warfare.
00:04:37.780 By the way, Canadian citizens were amongst the hostages,
00:04:40.500 as well as many American citizens, too.
00:04:43.220 They were kidnapped or killed.
00:04:45.600 Arab Israelis were kidnapped and killed, too, by the way,
00:04:48.040 as well as foreign nationals who were neither Israeli nor Jewish nor Arab.
00:04:52.980 Hamas really are like the Nazis,
00:04:54.880 and that's something I think they would proudly say about themselves.
00:04:58.660 You know, here's a copy of Mein Kampf translated into Arabic
00:05:01.680 that soldiers found in one children's bedroom in Gaza.
00:05:05.040 You might find it hard to believe that people with a Nazi mentality could exist in 2024,
00:05:12.100 and I understand where you would be coming from.
00:05:14.140 Some things are so awful the mind doesn't want to accept them.
00:05:17.120 So we come up with alternative explanations.
00:05:19.620 I think I've told you this story before.
00:05:20.900 I remember a few years ago when I interviewed a woman
00:05:23.460 who was taken as a rape slave by Islamic State terrorists.
00:05:29.880 She was, when I met her, she was a refugee in Germany who had escaped from Iraq,
00:05:35.100 but then she had to escape from the German Refugee Settlement Center
00:05:38.100 because that was dominated by Islamic gangs,
00:05:41.040 so she fled to a church in Germany, if you can believe it.
00:05:43.840 Anyways, I remember how she described that she was raped so many times by Islamic terrorists
00:05:48.860 that she had lost count after 240 times,
00:05:52.340 and I remember my reaction.
00:05:53.500 I was so horrified by her story.
00:05:55.400 My instinct in my mind, I mean, I didn't say it out loud, of course,
00:05:58.620 my instinct that she must have been lying.
00:06:00.880 She must have some sort of angle or reason to say such outrageous things
00:06:04.740 because that's impossible that something so horrific could be done by people.
00:06:09.020 But no, that's how horrific the world can be.
00:06:12.860 The Islamic State didn't usually live stream their rapes and murders and torture.
00:06:16.560 I don't know if the technology was around back then, but Hamas did.
00:06:19.980 I say again, the Nazis actually hid the worst of their Holocaust when they were doing it,
00:06:26.040 not just from the outside world, but even from their own people.
00:06:28.500 There was enough inherent goodness, inherent Christianity, inherent civilization in the German people
00:06:33.540 that had they known the depths of depravity at Auschwitz,
00:06:37.120 they likely would have rebelled.
00:06:38.720 Not so, Hamas, which advertised its brutality as a selling point.
00:06:44.020 And Hamas' supporters in the West love it.
00:06:46.500 Look at this woman.
00:06:48.520 I'm not sure what Western city she's in, probably London, I guess, maybe New York,
00:06:53.140 but it's in English, and she's saying,
00:06:55.980 you don't get to choose how we resist, and it's dripping in blood, her sign,
00:06:59.500 which means she agrees with Hamas' tactics.
00:07:03.200 And indeed, it's not just a Nazi or Islamic extremist ideology
00:07:06.020 that allows and even celebrates rape and murder and torture and kidnapping babies,
00:07:10.880 but it's the woke Western ideology that we teach our own kids at university
00:07:14.880 that teaches that anyone who is white or Western or male or Christian
00:07:18.420 is by definition an oppressor,
00:07:20.680 and everyone else is welcome to do literally anything
00:07:23.220 to that first group in the name of resistance.
00:07:26.880 It's really stunning.
00:07:27.880 But back to Gaza, Israel has moved its way through the Gaza Strip
00:07:31.340 and is now at Rafa, the town that borders with Egypt, if you know the map.
00:07:36.520 By the way, this is the wall between Egypt and Gaza,
00:07:40.100 a more serious, more impenetrable wall than Israel had.
00:07:44.220 Egypt, of course, like every Arab country, refuses to take any refugees from Gaza.
00:07:48.340 They know all about Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood,
00:07:51.320 which is an international Islamist group that supports jihad, including Hamas.
00:07:55.700 You might remember Egypt itself briefly had a coup,
00:07:59.080 and the Muslim Brotherhood took over Egypt.
00:08:02.320 And, you know, Hillary Clinton and the Democrats were all in favor of it.
00:08:06.520 They literally met with and normalized a terrorist government.
00:08:09.320 Thankfully, the Egyptian people and their military rose up and threw them out.
00:08:13.820 Egypt is taking no chances again.
00:08:15.360 They're not crazy.
00:08:16.040 They're not going to take Hamas refugees.
00:08:17.360 So, Israel has methodically worked its way through Gaza,
00:08:20.540 starting from the eastern side, which borders Israel.
00:08:23.720 They have slowly made their way through it and are now near that border with Egypt.
00:08:27.740 It's too grand a comparison, but it's like the Red Army closing in on Berlin in 1945.
00:08:32.720 There was a time when the Nazis were deep into Russia.
00:08:36.000 At least 20 million Russian civilians were killed, by the way.
00:08:38.920 And so the Red Army was racing to Berlin as the Americans, the Brits, the Canadians
00:08:42.380 were coming in from Western Europe.
00:08:44.360 Imagine Russia after suffering more casualties than any other country in the war,
00:08:49.860 after an entire generation of Russian men had been ground up in the war.
00:08:53.860 Imagine telling General Zhukov of the Red Army,
00:08:57.840 you've got to stop at the outskirts of Berlin.
00:09:00.180 Don't enter the city and definitely don't go to Hitler's bunker.
00:09:03.200 No, it's time for a ceasefire.
00:09:05.180 Negotiate with the remnants of the Nazis.
00:09:07.740 And by the way, Hitler wasn't holed up in his bunker
00:09:10.960 with a hundred Russian women and children as human shields.
00:09:13.680 Including for the obvious reason that Stalin wouldn't have hesitated for a second
00:09:17.440 to kill hostages if they were in his wake.
00:09:20.020 At Stalingrad, Stalin's officers shot any Red Army conscript to abandon his post.
00:09:25.000 So the idea of asking the Russians not to take Berlin
00:09:27.420 and not to kill or capture Hitler
00:09:29.600 and not to utterly dismantle the Nazi party and all of its power
00:09:33.020 is too weird to even contemplate.
00:09:34.860 Imagine in 1945, arguing that the Nazi government should be able to live on
00:09:38.360 and that Hitler should be allowed to remain
00:09:40.240 as long as he makes promises, pinky swear, not to invade Russia anymore.
00:09:45.060 If that were a movie script, no one would make it.
00:09:47.360 It's just too implausible.
00:09:48.760 It's crazy.
00:09:49.280 But that's exactly what Western leftists are saying.
00:09:51.740 Here's Melanie Jolie.
00:09:53.080 And I only mention her because we're Canadian
00:09:54.660 and she is our foreign minister, at least in name.
00:09:56.700 I truly don't think anyone in the entire world cares
00:10:00.240 what Melanie Jolie has to say,
00:10:02.120 other than, of course, Hamas,
00:10:04.000 which literally made a thank you video for Canada
00:10:06.580 after Trudeau voted against Israel at the UN.
00:10:09.820 But I don't think there's a single serious diplomat
00:10:12.240 or general or politician in the Western world
00:10:15.120 who asks, what would Melanie Jolie say?
00:10:17.580 Or even in the Arab world for that matter.
00:10:19.680 But here's what she said just three days ago,
00:10:22.080 two days before these hostages were freed.
00:10:24.140 We are deeply concerned by reports
00:10:26.120 of an Israeli military operation in Rafa.
00:10:28.380 It would have devastating impact
00:10:29.720 put in the lives of Palestinians and foreign nationals,
00:10:32.340 including Canadians, seeking refuge in grave danger
00:10:34.860 and making the vital delivery of humanitarian aid dangerous.
00:10:38.940 And she continued,
00:10:39.760 we continue our call for the protection of civilians,
00:10:42.360 for the release of hostages,
00:10:43.500 for urgent efforts towards a sustainable ceasefire
00:10:45.480 and for increased humanitarian aid.
00:10:47.600 Isn't that odd?
00:10:48.800 Jolie really, really doesn't want Israel to take Rafa.
00:10:51.620 Why?
00:10:51.860 I'm sure she is concerned about civilians.
00:10:54.960 Of course she is.
00:10:56.760 There were civilians in Berlin too, by the way,
00:10:58.900 and in Hiroshima and in Nagasaki.
00:11:02.180 Israel's fighting the war in a more careful manner
00:11:04.120 than perhaps any other war in history.
00:11:06.560 It's not dropping a bomb over Gaza
00:11:08.600 the way the Yanks did in Japan.
00:11:11.500 But the thing about Hamas is they know the rules
00:11:12.980 are different for Israel than for Stalin's Red Army
00:11:15.300 or even Eisenhower's American Army
00:11:17.440 or even Western armies of today.
00:11:19.400 I mean, Obama attacked ISIS troops in a hospital in Mosul, Iraq.
00:11:25.380 It made the news for a day.
00:11:27.860 And that's it.
00:11:28.320 People know that terrorists hide amongst civilians.
00:11:30.640 Western armies try to be careful.
00:11:32.280 Of course they do.
00:11:33.320 But the thing about war is that it's warlike.
00:11:35.080 It's not peaceful.
00:11:35.740 If ISIS hadn't surrendered,
00:11:37.180 the attack on the hospital wouldn't have been necessary.
00:11:39.420 Here's Joe Biden leaking to the Washington Post
00:11:42.500 in a similar vein to Melanie Schottly.
00:11:44.740 Biden presses Netanyahu on plans for hostage release,
00:11:48.020 protecting civilians in Rafa.
00:11:50.100 How civilians would be spared from an Israeli offensive
00:11:52.220 in the southernmost city in Gaza remains a huge question,
00:11:55.260 a senior administration official said.
00:11:58.280 I think it's a huge question,
00:12:00.180 and I can think of some answers to it.
00:12:02.240 Hamas surrenders.
00:12:02.980 That would end the war immediately.
00:12:04.760 That's what Japan did after the nukes.
00:12:07.160 That's what Nazi Germany did after Hitler killed himself.
00:12:10.280 I suppose the other alternative is the one that's happening.
00:12:12.120 Israel is going in as carefully as any modern army can.
00:12:16.480 It's faced with terrorists,
00:12:17.560 and they've spent nearly 20 years, the terrorists have,
00:12:21.220 planning for this attack by strategically placing
00:12:23.180 their bases underneath hospitals and schools.
00:12:27.320 It's been known for more than a decade
00:12:29.060 that Hamas has its central command post
00:12:31.820 under the big al-Shifa hospital in Gaza.
00:12:34.400 I mean, it makes sense if your goal is to stop
00:12:36.180 any civilized country from attacking your terrorist headquarters,
00:12:38.900 but it's obviously insane if you believe in protecting
00:12:41.860 innocent human life,
00:12:43.220 and don't tell me that you can literally have
00:12:45.360 the Hamas headquarters under a hospital
00:12:47.520 and that the hospital staff and administration
00:12:49.400 and donors didn't know.
00:12:51.820 Of course, they knew.
00:12:53.960 Here's a video from the al-Shifa hospital
00:12:55.560 showing there was actually the first stop
00:12:57.640 for the terrorists
00:12:58.380 when they had finished taking their hostages.
00:13:01.020 It's their place.
00:13:02.320 It's their hangout.
00:13:03.880 Imagine what they'll find in Raqqa.
00:13:06.000 Besides, of course, the Hamas leadership
00:13:07.480 and hopefully surviving hostages,
00:13:09.200 but here's a hint.
00:13:10.340 You know that the UN has a massive permanent agency
00:13:12.880 that runs Gaza.
00:13:14.440 It's called UNRWA,
00:13:16.180 which stands for UN Relief and Works Agency.
00:13:20.680 If Hamas is the terrorist government of Gaza,
00:13:24.460 UNRWA is basically the civil service of Gaza,
00:13:27.520 and, of course, the civil service reports to the government,
00:13:29.980 and so it is in Gaza.
00:13:32.120 By the way, UNRWA is so linked to the Hamas terrorists
00:13:34.940 that Stephen Arbor and other Western leaders
00:13:37.120 cut it off a decade ago, stopped giving aid.
00:13:41.520 But Trudeau, when he became PM again,
00:13:43.580 pumped $50 million back into it.
00:13:46.600 And just a couple of months ago,
00:13:47.680 Trudeau pumped another $50 million into UNRWA.
00:13:50.960 But UNRWA is hand-in-glove with Hamas.
00:13:53.320 I'll say UN now instead of UNRWA
00:13:55.120 because it's more pronounceable,
00:13:56.540 the UN and Hamas share the same staff.
00:14:00.540 UN staff literally participated
00:14:02.120 in the October 7th terrorist attack.
00:14:05.100 UN chat groups, like online chatter groups,
00:14:07.760 with thousands of UN staff in Gaza,
00:14:10.340 they celebrated the terrorist attacks on Israel.
00:14:12.860 UN is Hamas.
00:14:13.840 Hamas is the UN in Gaza.
00:14:15.840 And let me end with the craziest story of all.
00:14:17.400 The UN headquarters itself in Gaza.
00:14:21.220 Underneath that, in the basement,
00:14:23.380 a Hamas base.
00:14:26.000 Here's what Israeli soldiers found
00:14:27.440 when they came to the UN headquarters
00:14:28.900 a couple of days ago.
00:14:31.220 The UN office was upstairs.
00:14:33.900 Hamas was downstairs,
00:14:34.800 plugged into the UN systems,
00:14:36.680 their power system, their computer system.
00:14:38.880 It was in the same building.
00:14:39.900 They shared the office.
00:14:40.860 The UN itself was co-located with Hamas.
00:14:43.380 They shared a mailing address.
00:14:46.360 Did you see that tunnel they built?
00:14:48.220 Here's what the head of the UN in Gaza said.
00:14:50.920 Anruwa did not know
00:14:53.400 what is under its headquarters in Gaza.
00:14:55.680 Anruwa is made aware of reports
00:14:57.840 through the media regarding a tunnel
00:14:59.380 under the Anruwa headquarters in Gaza.
00:15:01.800 Sure, you didn't know.
00:15:03.140 You didn't know until journalists reported it.
00:15:05.680 You had no idea
00:15:06.600 those guys going downstairs with guns were,
00:15:09.540 with hostages were.
00:15:10.980 Did you see that tunnel?
00:15:12.440 That's a year-long infrastructure project
00:15:14.440 with heavy equipment and cement.
00:15:16.240 Imagine saying you didn't know.
00:15:17.640 Or that Hamas,
00:15:18.920 oh, they just did that in the last week.
00:15:20.820 So I ask again,
00:15:21.620 why does Melanie Jolie want Israel
00:15:23.020 not to finish the job?
00:15:25.420 I mean, Israel's already taken 90% or so of Gaza.
00:15:29.620 Wouldn't taking Rafa end the war?
00:15:32.000 And isn't that the best outcome,
00:15:33.300 just to end the war?
00:15:36.020 Maybe Melanie Jolie doesn't actually want
00:15:37.980 Hamas' leadership to be captured or killed.
00:15:40.140 I mean, she spent $100 million
00:15:42.480 in Canadian tax money.
00:15:45.800 Maybe she doesn't want Hamas to lose.
00:15:50.160 And just maybe,
00:15:51.280 maybe there will be some things found in Rafa,
00:15:54.420 like were found under the UN headquarters,
00:15:56.380 like were found under the Al-Shifa hospital,
00:15:58.260 that show that Trudeau and Jolie
00:15:59.960 and the rest of the liberal Hamas caucus
00:16:01.600 knew a lot more about what was going on
00:16:03.860 than they let on.
00:16:05.500 I mean, Israel is finding many unusual things
00:16:08.000 now that they're on the ground here.
00:16:09.180 Let me quote one report here.
00:16:11.100 The IDF, that's the Israel Defense Forces,
00:16:12.840 say it located intelligence
00:16:14.540 that Al-Jazeera reporter Mohamed Wisha
00:16:17.140 moonlights as a commander
00:16:18.620 in Hamas' anti-armor unit.
00:16:20.740 At the end of last year,
00:16:21.620 he moved to the R&D division
00:16:23.120 of Hamas' air unit.
00:16:24.420 Surprise, not surprise.
00:16:25.440 So that's a laptop that they found
00:16:27.400 of an Al-Jazeera journalist
00:16:28.720 showing he's actually a Hamas terrorist too.
00:16:32.500 I wonder if any of the CBC sources
00:16:34.300 were Hamas terrorists too.
00:16:37.060 I wonder if any Canadian staff
00:16:38.960 were terrorists too.
00:16:40.400 I wonder if Jolie is worried
00:16:41.560 about other records,
00:16:43.180 a list of Hamas terrorists,
00:16:44.480 membership lists,
00:16:44.980 because Mark Miller,
00:16:46.400 the liberal immigration minister,
00:16:47.620 he has said he wants Canada
00:16:48.740 to take literally thousands
00:16:50.260 of Gaza refugees,
00:16:51.420 and he's frustrated
00:16:52.380 that it hasn't happened already.
00:16:54.240 He's very impatient.
00:16:56.100 That's what he said.
00:16:56.780 Here's a clip.
00:16:57.140 I wanted to follow up
00:16:58.100 on your comments
00:16:58.600 in the House yesterday
00:16:59.400 about the Rafa border
00:17:00.880 and your frustrations
00:17:01.960 with sort of getting
00:17:03.060 family members out.
00:17:05.080 Can you give me a sense
00:17:05.760 of how many people
00:17:07.360 have been pre-approved so far
00:17:08.460 and what the challenges are?
00:17:09.740 We have an initial list.
00:17:11.300 Local authorities need
00:17:12.360 to help us get people
00:17:13.320 through the Rafa border crossing.
00:17:14.540 Canada doesn't control that.
00:17:16.220 And I'm pretty pissed off about it.
00:17:18.740 You know,
00:17:18.940 we've made a pretty broad program
00:17:21.380 for people that have relatives
00:17:23.280 in Canada.
00:17:24.720 It is unique,
00:17:25.580 so perhaps there is
00:17:28.120 some trepidation
00:17:29.620 by people on the ground
00:17:31.280 as to let these folks out,
00:17:32.960 but it's a humanitarian gesture
00:17:34.100 and it's immensely frustrating for me.
00:17:36.760 I still think we have,
00:17:39.460 before I speak more publicly on it,
00:17:41.900 I think we still have
00:17:43.160 some diplomatic work to do.
00:17:44.640 Now, opinion polls show
00:17:45.980 that 75% or more
00:17:47.520 of Gazans support Hamas.
00:17:49.440 Every hospital, many schools,
00:17:51.020 many mosques are Hamas bases.
00:17:53.340 The UN's schools
00:17:54.640 teach anti-Semitism
00:17:55.860 and teach hating Israel.
00:17:57.120 The whole place
00:17:57.920 is a terrorism incubator.
00:18:00.280 And Trudeau has been
00:18:00.900 sending in millions of dollars
00:18:02.480 and wants to bring
00:18:03.140 thousands of them over here.
00:18:06.420 Ending the war
00:18:07.060 by defeating Hamas
00:18:08.140 would stop a lot
00:18:09.000 of Trudeau's plans,
00:18:10.000 wouldn't it?
00:18:11.140 But it would also save
00:18:12.200 a lot of lives,
00:18:12.980 Israeli lives,
00:18:13.700 Arab lives,
00:18:14.640 possibly even
00:18:16.160 Canadian lives, too.
00:18:18.400 Stay with us for more.
00:18:31.180 You know,
00:18:31.700 of course,
00:18:32.160 war is terrible,
00:18:33.240 obviously.
00:18:34.220 Of course,
00:18:34.820 casualties,
00:18:36.000 not just from soldiers,
00:18:37.120 but civilians,
00:18:37.740 are one of the worst parts
00:18:38.900 of the war
00:18:39.300 that's happened
00:18:40.160 in Russia,
00:18:40.720 Ukraine.
00:18:41.240 It's happened
00:18:41.580 in every war
00:18:42.120 in history.
00:18:44.740 Telling Israel
00:18:45.700 not to take
00:18:46.760 out the Hamas leadership
00:18:47.620 would be like telling
00:18:48.380 the Red Army
00:18:49.520 in 1945
00:18:50.260 not to take Berlin.
00:18:53.220 The obvious question
00:18:54.160 is why?
00:18:55.540 Why would you stop
00:18:56.700 the Allies
00:18:57.920 from taking Berlin
00:18:58.760 and taking out it?
00:19:01.420 Instead of the guest segment,
00:19:02.500 I want to show you
00:19:03.000 something that I did
00:19:03.720 last week.
00:19:04.360 I was invited
00:19:04.820 on Infowars,
00:19:06.000 which is a really
00:19:06.780 big audience,
00:19:07.520 and some people say,
00:19:08.200 oh, Alex Jones
00:19:08.680 is too controversial.
00:19:09.820 I find him a very
00:19:10.800 engaging
00:19:11.880 and entertaining
00:19:12.760 interlocutor.
00:19:14.100 I think he
00:19:15.180 reads the news
00:19:16.300 obsessively.
00:19:17.380 He's got a sense
00:19:17.920 of humor,
00:19:18.400 and like all of us,
00:19:19.220 he's had his flourishes
00:19:20.140 from now and then.
00:19:21.100 But I like going on a show,
00:19:22.160 and I'm obviously
00:19:22.580 in control of what I say,
00:19:24.300 and I express myself,
00:19:25.420 and I had a good visit
00:19:26.620 with him the other day.
00:19:27.240 I want to show you.
00:19:28.700 He has me on
00:19:29.480 from time now
00:19:29.920 because he wants
00:19:30.400 to know about Canada.
00:19:31.740 He wants to know
00:19:32.280 the truth about Trudeau
00:19:33.340 and other crazy
00:19:34.560 trends up here.
00:19:35.820 So let me propose
00:19:37.640 to share with you
00:19:38.520 some edited excerpts
00:19:40.560 of my recent sit-down
00:19:41.800 with Alex Jones.
00:19:43.320 I'll leave you with those.
00:19:45.000 Until next time,
00:19:46.140 on behalf of all of us
00:19:47.020 here at Rebel World
00:19:47.680 Headquarters,
00:19:48.180 to you at home,
00:19:48.720 good night,
00:19:49.920 and keep fighting
00:19:50.480 for freedom.
00:19:54.000 So Ezra LeVant
00:19:54.980 heads up Rebel Media,
00:19:56.160 one of the best media
00:19:56.940 organizations,
00:19:57.660 is pro-human,
00:19:58.280 pro-truth,
00:19:59.000 in the world,
00:19:59.780 rebelnews.com,
00:20:00.800 at Ezra LeVant,
00:20:01.900 on X.
00:20:03.340 We're going to cover
00:20:04.180 the waterfront here
00:20:05.240 with him.
00:20:05.560 I've been trying
00:20:05.840 to get him on for weeks
00:20:06.620 since he did a great job
00:20:08.220 there from Switzerland
00:20:09.840 at the Davos operation,
00:20:12.060 knocked out of the park
00:20:12.700 again with his crew
00:20:14.480 because we had
00:20:16.200 some big victories
00:20:16.860 in Canada,
00:20:18.020 at least for now,
00:20:19.180 backing off the state,
00:20:21.020 killing mentally ill people
00:20:22.340 that they're wards of.
00:20:24.340 And we've also got
00:20:25.260 new clips of Trudeau
00:20:26.200 saying Canada's not great.
00:20:27.960 How dare you say that?
00:20:29.240 That almost tops his,
00:20:30.460 he admires Xi Jinping
00:20:31.400 above anything else
00:20:32.460 because he has
00:20:33.220 a basic dictatorship.
00:20:35.120 We've also got
00:20:36.160 the media meltdown
00:20:37.860 over Tucker and Russia,
00:20:38.940 Israel and Gaza,
00:20:39.840 Canada petition
00:20:40.420 to get out of the UN,
00:20:41.840 WHO,
00:20:42.660 open borders,
00:20:44.040 ongoing transgender
00:20:44.760 insanity in Canada.
00:20:45.660 We're going to cover
00:20:46.240 it all.
00:20:47.320 Ezra LeVant,
00:20:48.260 you're the quarterback
00:20:49.680 this hour and the coach.
00:20:51.240 What do you want
00:20:51.880 to jump into first?
00:20:54.040 Yeah,
00:20:54.400 I want to tell you,
00:20:55.500 I think the most important
00:20:56.800 piece of news
00:20:57.560 in Canada
00:20:58.300 in 2024
00:20:59.420 was a shocking,
00:21:01.540 shocking in a good way,
00:21:03.400 court decision
00:21:04.060 by our federal
00:21:04.980 court of Canada.
00:21:05.740 It ruled
00:21:06.800 that when Justin Trudeau
00:21:08.680 invoked martial law
00:21:09.960 two years ago
00:21:11.000 in response
00:21:11.940 to the peaceful truckers,
00:21:13.560 when he seized
00:21:14.780 bank accounts,
00:21:16.120 when he deployed
00:21:16.880 riot horses
00:21:17.960 against peaceful protesters,
00:21:20.040 that was illegal,
00:21:22.580 unconstitutional,
00:21:24.040 unreasonable,
00:21:25.240 unjustified.
00:21:26.000 Those were all words
00:21:26.760 from the ruling.
00:21:28.120 And further on,
00:21:30.220 he said the way
00:21:31.040 it was implemented
00:21:32.260 was against
00:21:33.140 our Constitution,
00:21:34.460 the seizing
00:21:35.000 of bank accounts.
00:21:35.660 Here's an example.
00:21:37.300 As you know,
00:21:37.980 a lot of households
00:21:38.760 have a joint bank account
00:21:40.060 between mom and dad.
00:21:41.580 So if dad was protesting,
00:21:43.540 they would seize
00:21:44.220 the family bank account
00:21:45.480 so mom couldn't buy
00:21:46.700 groceries or medicine
00:21:48.440 or pay for school.
00:21:49.920 So it wasn't just
00:21:51.380 that the invocation
00:21:52.760 of martial law
00:21:53.760 was illegal.
00:21:54.840 The judge said
00:21:55.680 the way it was
00:21:57.220 implemented
00:21:58.060 was illegal too.
00:21:59.680 This was such a
00:22:00.740 breath of fresh air.
00:22:02.280 This was so encouraging.
00:22:03.820 As the kids say,
00:22:04.840 it was a white pill moment.
00:22:07.160 And it's done
00:22:07.600 one more thing, Alex.
00:22:08.700 Not only has it
00:22:09.660 vindicated
00:22:10.700 all the truckers
00:22:12.140 and put the blame
00:22:13.960 around Trudeau's neck,
00:22:15.400 but it has now
00:22:16.440 fired the starter pistol
00:22:17.980 for hundreds of Canadians
00:22:19.920 who were debanked
00:22:21.860 to sue the government.
00:22:23.600 because the pretext
00:22:25.360 of having their
00:22:26.200 bank account seized
00:22:27.040 was just declared
00:22:29.140 unlawful.
00:22:30.320 The only people
00:22:31.900 breaking the law
00:22:32.880 during that trucker protest
00:22:34.160 other than some
00:22:34.940 parking tickets
00:22:35.920 was Trudeau himself.
00:22:38.020 Last point,
00:22:39.400 the week that this
00:22:40.500 federal court ruling
00:22:41.480 came out,
00:22:42.600 the justice minister
00:22:44.260 under Trudeau
00:22:45.220 who had implemented
00:22:46.040 the martial law,
00:22:47.020 he abruptly announced
00:22:48.240 he was quitting
00:22:49.100 parliament and retiring.
00:22:50.360 But we caught him
00:22:51.900 deleting his Twitter account,
00:22:53.420 which has all of his
00:22:54.600 public statements
00:22:55.360 and his private
00:22:56.280 direct messages.
00:22:57.260 So we've gone to court
00:22:58.520 to freeze his Twitter account.
00:23:00.900 I think he's trying
00:23:01.980 to delete his tracks
00:23:04.180 now that hundreds
00:23:05.500 of Canadians
00:23:06.160 are going to sue him
00:23:07.260 over that false
00:23:08.940 invocation of martial law.
00:23:10.640 So listen,
00:23:11.060 the world is in jeopardy, Alex.
00:23:13.560 There's bad news everywhere.
00:23:14.860 But every once in a while
00:23:16.300 when you get a win like this,
00:23:17.980 especially from a court
00:23:19.580 that you had sort of
00:23:20.520 written off,
00:23:21.760 it's worth taking
00:23:22.660 a moment to celebrate.
00:23:24.200 By the way,
00:23:24.440 I'm kicking myself
00:23:25.200 for not raising that
00:23:26.300 when I wanted you on
00:23:26.960 a few weeks ago
00:23:27.640 and I understand
00:23:28.340 you were busy.
00:23:29.020 I wanted you on
00:23:30.000 about that ruling
00:23:30.980 and that was the reason
00:23:32.660 I wanted you on.
00:23:33.580 Now all this other stuff
00:23:34.300 has happened.
00:23:34.740 But again,
00:23:35.400 I want to say this again.
00:23:37.040 The WF, the UN,
00:23:38.620 all of them have said
00:23:39.360 Canada is their main model.
00:23:42.080 Klaus Schwab has said
00:23:42.880 Trudeau is who he's most
00:23:44.380 proud of as the model.
00:23:46.520 We played that clip
00:23:47.140 many times.
00:23:47.580 I'm not going to play it again,
00:23:48.440 but it's on record.
00:23:49.540 Just type in Klaus Schwab
00:23:50.620 says Trudeau's the model.
00:23:52.020 He penetrates the cabinets.
00:23:54.040 The UN
00:23:55.460 and your deputy prime minister
00:23:57.340 and all of them
00:23:57.980 have now come out
00:23:59.500 just this week
00:24:00.380 and said,
00:24:01.360 we want to take
00:24:02.300 the bank accounts
00:24:03.100 and demonetize
00:24:04.260 anybody that criticizes
00:24:06.060 the Ukraine war,
00:24:07.040 anybody that criticizes
00:24:07.940 open borders.
00:24:08.680 So they're trying
00:24:09.280 to take the model
00:24:10.360 of a social credit score
00:24:11.760 from China to Canada
00:24:13.320 and now externalize
00:24:15.100 that everywhere.
00:24:16.180 That's why this victory,
00:24:17.000 I know the court brought up
00:24:18.040 the debanking
00:24:18.540 as the worst part,
00:24:19.860 is so incredibly important.
00:24:22.860 Yeah, you know,
00:24:23.880 there's just this week
00:24:25.440 a member of parliament
00:24:27.100 for our socialist party
00:24:28.560 introduced a private
00:24:29.620 members bill
00:24:30.380 that would criminalize,
00:24:32.040 like not just make it
00:24:33.200 mildly illegal,
00:24:34.140 but it would be a crime
00:24:35.460 punishable with more
00:24:36.660 than a million dollars
00:24:37.600 in fines
00:24:38.220 and two years prison time.
00:24:39.800 This private member's bill
00:24:42.160 as it's called,
00:24:43.860 would make promoting
00:24:45.400 the oil and gas industry
00:24:47.420 a crime.
00:24:48.660 I know you're thinking,
00:24:49.480 no, that can't be.
00:24:50.340 There's got to be
00:24:50.960 some catch there.
00:24:52.340 The member of parliament
00:24:53.140 who introduced it
00:24:54.000 actually compared it
00:24:55.180 to anti-tobacco legislation.
00:24:58.840 And there's a common thread there.
00:25:01.180 They don't want you
00:25:01.920 to be able to criticize
00:25:02.940 oil and gas.
00:25:03.980 They want you to,
00:25:04.860 you know,
00:25:05.880 use less carbon.
00:25:07.840 They're also in Canada
00:25:09.080 proposing to make it a crime
00:25:10.780 to, quote,
00:25:11.840 deny a genocide
00:25:14.040 against indigenous people.
00:25:16.300 If you deny
00:25:17.520 that there are mass graves
00:25:19.240 of Indians
00:25:19.820 at the Indian residential schools,
00:25:21.820 even if you're a skeptic,
00:25:22.960 even if you're Indian yourself,
00:25:24.680 they say that should be a crime.
00:25:26.400 So there's all these movements
00:25:28.680 in Canada
00:25:29.360 to strangle free speech
00:25:31.860 about key issues.
00:25:33.200 And the thing is,
00:25:34.380 in Canada,
00:25:35.080 it's happening all the time.
00:25:36.380 But remember when I was
00:25:37.420 in Davos, Switzerland,
00:25:38.380 covering the World Economic Forum?
00:25:40.020 They're all pointing
00:25:41.420 towards the 2024 U.S. election.
00:25:44.560 That is the number one subject
00:25:46.440 of conversation
00:25:47.240 for the global elites.
00:25:48.520 I think I told you
00:25:49.240 that the two names
00:25:50.640 that were on the lips
00:25:51.740 of the delegates
00:25:52.440 of the WEF
00:25:53.300 more than any other
00:25:54.000 were, number one,
00:25:55.600 Donald Trump
00:25:56.200 and how can they stop him?
00:25:57.420 And number two,
00:25:58.940 Elon Musk
00:25:59.840 and how he is their impediment
00:26:02.000 to stopping Trump.
00:26:03.940 There I am in Europe
00:26:05.100 with all these Europeans,
00:26:06.460 all these globalists,
00:26:07.420 but they're obsessed
00:26:08.380 with those two disruptors
00:26:10.340 in America.
00:26:11.320 I want to report that to you, Alex,
00:26:12.880 because you want to know.
00:26:14.320 You told us,
00:26:15.400 but it bears repeating.
00:26:16.340 And people ask me,
00:26:17.140 is Musk
00:26:18.380 good or bad?
00:26:20.700 You can't lie.
00:26:22.240 The facts don't lie.
00:26:23.900 You judge a tree
00:26:24.680 by its fruits.
00:26:26.040 He was never really
00:26:27.100 a bad person,
00:26:27.860 but he's involved
00:26:28.300 in every major technology
00:26:29.240 so people can be as scared
00:26:30.280 of the technologies
00:26:30.880 and other implementation.
00:26:32.320 I certainly agree
00:26:32.920 with a lot of that.
00:26:33.480 We should be very careful.
00:26:34.760 But if you look at
00:26:35.740 one point in the cup
00:26:38.180 as being total freedom
00:26:38.980 and one being globalist tyranny,
00:26:40.720 he was kind of
00:26:41.280 in the middle before.
00:26:42.120 He swung almost
00:26:43.200 all the way over
00:26:44.160 to being like
00:26:45.660 a Tucker Carlson
00:26:47.200 or an Ezra Levant
00:26:48.360 or an Alex Jones.
00:26:50.400 And so is Joe Rogan.
00:26:51.640 And I know Joe Rogan personally.
00:26:53.020 I know he's really awake
00:26:54.460 and pissed off.
00:26:55.560 So I think people
00:26:56.600 need to be able
00:26:56.920 to sit back
00:26:57.600 and realize
00:26:59.020 we're having
00:26:59.640 cultural victories
00:27:00.860 and that we need
00:27:03.820 to get ready
00:27:04.160 for people
00:27:04.500 to come over
00:27:04.960 to our side
00:27:05.700 and not just reject people
00:27:07.620 when they start
00:27:08.340 doing so many good things.
00:27:09.700 What's your view on that
00:27:11.080 and what do you think
00:27:12.160 gut level
00:27:12.740 and also intellectually
00:27:14.680 about Elon Musk?
00:27:16.220 Thanks for asking.
00:27:17.240 My number one fear
00:27:18.260 is that he is exposed
00:27:19.200 to the Chinese government
00:27:20.420 because he has
00:27:21.080 such a large
00:27:21.840 production facility.
00:27:23.700 China is such a large
00:27:24.780 part of his plans.
00:27:25.940 So whenever I see him
00:27:26.860 asked about China
00:27:27.880 in one of his interviews
00:27:29.060 he really clams up a bit.
00:27:31.280 That's my number one fear.
00:27:32.800 But let's talk about
00:27:33.960 the number one
00:27:34.640 journalistic moment
00:27:35.640 of the week
00:27:36.160 which is Tucker Carlson's
00:27:37.500 upcoming interview
00:27:38.200 with Vladimir Putin.
00:27:40.080 That would not be aired
00:27:42.200 on any network TV.
00:27:44.720 I think it would be banned
00:27:46.280 on YouTube.
00:27:47.540 Elon Musk has assured
00:27:49.600 that that will be seen
00:27:50.920 in its totality.
00:27:52.180 And as he says,
00:27:53.320 let the people judge it.
00:27:54.460 And think of all
00:27:56.280 the other things
00:27:57.020 that he has permitted
00:27:57.860 including if I might say
00:27:59.260 the revival of your accounts.
00:28:02.860 And so, I mean,
00:28:03.840 that is a proof point.
00:28:05.100 You see his tweets lately
00:28:06.560 about open borders
00:28:07.660 immigration?
00:28:09.200 He's sounding like
00:28:10.800 a rock-ribbed Republican.
00:28:13.620 And I have to say
00:28:15.140 no man is perfect.
00:28:16.920 But as Ronald Reagan said,
00:28:18.340 I'm paraphrasing,
00:28:19.200 he said a 10% enemy
00:28:20.360 is still a 90% friend.
00:28:22.080 And Elon Musk
00:28:23.500 is a friend to everyone
00:28:24.820 who cares about
00:28:25.740 the free dissemination
00:28:27.060 of ideas,
00:28:28.220 the ability to speak
00:28:29.280 truth to power.
00:28:31.040 And that's why
00:28:32.220 they hate him
00:28:32.900 at the World Economic Forum.
00:28:33.720 No, exactly.
00:28:34.560 Anybody,
00:28:35.220 and start over
00:28:35.920 as uninterrupted,
00:28:36.340 but anybody that sits there
00:28:37.740 holier-than-thou about Musk,
00:28:39.180 I mean,
00:28:39.360 I just ask him,
00:28:40.340 okay, so you wish
00:28:41.160 he'd just get rid of Twitter
00:28:42.200 and stop doing
00:28:42.940 the good things he's doing?
00:28:43.960 No.
00:28:44.640 He's,
00:28:45.040 I know people
00:28:45.640 that know him personally.
00:28:46.380 I'll leave it at that.
00:28:46.980 He lives here in Austin.
00:28:48.180 I'm friends with some people
00:28:48.940 that are very close friends.
00:28:49.980 I've interviewed him
00:28:50.380 for two and a half hours.
00:28:51.080 They say behind the scenes
00:28:52.720 he is completely red-pilled,
00:28:54.720 totally pissed,
00:28:55.520 and awake.
00:28:56.220 Now, I know that
00:28:57.000 about Joe Rogan.
00:28:57.780 Joe Rogan had dinner.
00:28:58.560 He's like,
00:28:58.820 you're totally right, Alex.
00:28:59.800 It's all true.
00:29:00.420 New world order.
00:29:01.180 He's come out against us all.
00:29:02.600 And so I know Joe's for real,
00:29:04.180 and I can clearly see
00:29:05.720 that Musk is rapidly
00:29:07.320 moving into our camp
00:29:08.420 because as he said
00:29:09.520 just yesterday,
00:29:10.620 if the West collapses,
00:29:12.080 the world will collapse.
00:29:13.780 We've got to expand civilization.
00:29:15.460 It doesn't sit in stasis.
00:29:16.660 It will totally collapse.
00:29:18.000 The globalist plan
00:29:18.840 for post-industrial world
00:29:19.980 will create a new dark age
00:29:21.260 and the elites
00:29:21.860 will be destroyed.
00:29:22.620 This crazy leftist
00:29:24.340 Klaus Schwab,
00:29:25.160 King Charles,
00:29:26.180 Nazi-esque depopulation plan
00:29:28.180 will destroy everybody.
00:29:30.080 And Musk is smart
00:29:30.940 and he's right.
00:29:32.080 And so thank God
00:29:33.200 for Elon Musk.
00:29:33.920 It's not a kiss-his-ass scenario.
00:29:36.800 Trump's not perfect either,
00:29:37.860 but thank God
00:29:38.380 for President Trump.
00:29:39.700 I mean,
00:29:39.940 I'm just sick of people
00:29:41.440 acting holier than thou.
00:29:42.780 Does anyone in America,
00:29:46.040 does anyone in Canada
00:29:46.980 actually think for a second
00:29:49.800 that many of the world's calamities
00:29:51.880 would be happening
00:29:52.580 if Trump were in office?
00:29:53.920 All the things
00:29:54.600 they don't like about Trump,
00:29:56.260 mainly his personality,
00:29:58.000 his jokes,
00:29:58.840 his crass style,
00:30:00.360 those are the things
00:30:01.320 that scared the beans
00:30:02.740 out of the bad guys.
00:30:04.520 And I believe Trump,
00:30:06.420 when he says
00:30:06.900 he would end the war
00:30:07.560 in Ukraine in 24 hours,
00:30:08.840 I believe it never
00:30:09.720 would have started.
00:30:10.260 And I think every Democrat
00:30:11.360 knows that in their bones.
00:30:12.900 And I think every Democrat
00:30:14.100 knows in their bones
00:30:15.300 that some, you know,
00:30:17.140 Mad Max style
00:30:18.780 houthy terrorist
00:30:19.980 wouldn't be shooting
00:30:20.920 at oil tankers
00:30:22.360 or U.S. aircraft carriers
00:30:23.740 with impunity.
00:30:24.620 They wouldn't even try it
00:30:25.820 if Trump were around.
00:30:27.300 Peace through strength.
00:30:28.340 Donald Trump
00:30:28.880 didn't go starting wars,
00:30:30.640 but he had a wildness
00:30:32.160 in his eye,
00:30:33.220 a twinkle,
00:30:34.360 that you looked at him
00:30:36.260 and you said,
00:30:36.620 I'm not going to try
00:30:37.440 anything with this guy
00:30:38.360 because America's on top.
00:30:39.500 No one feels that way
00:30:41.700 about Biden.
00:30:42.480 Biden thinks he's still
00:30:43.300 negotiating with
00:30:44.120 Francois Minerand
00:30:45.500 who hasn't been with us
00:30:46.720 in decades.
00:30:47.580 And Helmut Kohl.
00:30:48.200 I just think-
00:30:48.680 And Helmut Kohl.
00:30:49.360 Yeah.
00:30:50.580 You know, he's-
00:30:51.960 I suppose they say
00:30:53.020 when you start
00:30:53.740 to lose your mind,
00:30:54.620 your memory goes back
00:30:55.540 to your childhood
00:30:56.260 or your youth.
00:30:57.420 Soon we'll have him
00:30:58.140 talking about corn pop
00:30:59.280 again or something.
00:31:00.440 I tell you,
00:31:01.240 November can't come
00:31:02.420 soon enough,
00:31:03.460 but I'm worried
00:31:04.980 because they will not
00:31:06.800 stop at anything
00:31:07.760 to block Trump.
00:31:08.820 So much depends
00:31:09.960 on it.
00:31:10.640 Trillions of dollars,
00:31:12.400 the states
00:31:13.040 of entire countries,
00:31:15.100 the dominance
00:31:15.780 of the U.S. currency
00:31:17.040 versus others.
00:31:18.580 The entire world
00:31:19.740 hinges on what
00:31:20.760 Americans do.
00:31:21.760 And let me be more precise.
00:31:23.160 We know which way
00:31:24.300 California is going.
00:31:25.400 We know which way
00:31:26.260 New York is going.
00:31:27.400 The entire world
00:31:28.340 depends on maybe
00:31:29.600 a half a dozen
00:31:30.620 battleground states
00:31:32.080 in America.
00:31:33.160 And that's why
00:31:33.920 election integrity,
00:31:35.100 and that's why
00:31:36.220 freedom of speech
00:31:37.960 electronically
00:31:38.600 is so important.
00:31:40.200 And we're up here
00:31:40.880 in Canada
00:31:41.380 and obviously we want
00:31:42.400 to get rid of
00:31:42.980 Justin Trudeau
00:31:43.720 because he's poisonous.
00:31:45.040 But I have to tell you,
00:31:46.960 whether or not
00:31:47.680 Trump wins or not,
00:31:49.320 or whether or not
00:31:50.120 Trudeau is re-elected
00:31:51.280 or not,
00:31:52.220 I think Trump winning
00:31:53.240 or not probably has
00:31:54.240 more effect on our lives
00:31:55.660 up here.
00:31:56.580 I mean, Trudeau's awful,
00:31:57.440 don't get me wrong.
00:31:58.560 But in terms of how
00:31:59.500 the entire world
00:32:00.620 would change or not,
00:32:01.960 your election
00:32:03.520 is important
00:32:04.400 to the whole world,
00:32:05.320 including to us
00:32:06.160 up here in Canada,
00:32:07.140 including Australia,
00:32:08.160 including to Europe.
00:32:09.260 Well, that's right.
00:32:09.800 I mean, elections
00:32:10.580 other than a few
00:32:11.520 city-states of Greece
00:32:13.060 2,500 years ago
00:32:14.340 never really existed
00:32:15.840 until about 250,
00:32:17.460 260 years ago.
00:32:18.640 And so this election
00:32:20.240 really is the most
00:32:21.460 important election
00:32:22.140 in world history.
00:32:24.200 I think that's right.
00:32:26.040 And we each have
00:32:27.440 a role to play.
00:32:29.320 Journalists like us,
00:32:30.660 our job is to,
00:32:31.960 tell the other side
00:32:32.740 of the story,
00:32:33.600 to follow the facts
00:32:34.480 wherever they lead,
00:32:35.440 to shine a light
00:32:36.160 of scrutiny on things.
00:32:37.100 And when people say
00:32:37.800 you're not allowed
00:32:38.420 to talk about that,
00:32:39.380 just say,
00:32:39.840 why?
00:32:40.360 I want to talk about it.
00:32:41.540 The fact you're saying
00:32:42.520 we're not allowed
00:32:43.160 to talk about it
00:32:43.920 makes me want to talk
00:32:45.000 about it twice as much.
00:32:46.300 And that's my thought
00:32:47.020 about Tucker interviewing
00:32:48.060 Vladimir Putin.
00:32:49.940 Everyone's so against it.
00:32:51.540 Now, others have
00:32:52.220 interviewed Putin,
00:32:53.060 including after he invaded
00:32:54.320 Ukraine in 2014.
00:32:56.000 Why can't Tucker?
00:32:57.340 Because he's shown
00:32:58.120 an open-mindedness?
00:32:59.240 I think Tucker,
00:33:00.280 for his own reputation's sake,
00:33:01.960 is going to ask
00:33:02.860 interesting,
00:33:04.180 firm questions,
00:33:05.680 not just banal blather.
00:33:07.380 I don't think he's
00:33:08.040 going to let
00:33:08.640 Vladimir Putin,
00:33:09.820 quote,
00:33:10.120 get away with things.
00:33:11.560 I think he's going
00:33:12.020 to let Vladimir Putin
00:33:13.060 talk.
00:33:13.760 That's your job
00:33:14.660 when you're talking
00:33:15.240 to a world leader
00:33:16.120 like that.
00:33:16.600 I think Tucker knows
00:33:18.880 this is his moment
00:33:20.300 to shine.
00:33:21.320 And I think he's put
00:33:22.380 an enormous amount
00:33:23.380 of thought in his questions.
00:33:23.760 Oh, I've never seen
00:33:24.180 him so excited.
00:33:25.140 He's been trying
00:33:25.720 for three years
00:33:26.760 to do this.
00:33:27.840 And I'll just leave
00:33:28.300 it at that.
00:33:28.740 But he is just,
00:33:30.260 this is all,
00:33:31.900 when I was up there
00:33:32.600 months ago up in Maine
00:33:33.480 with him,
00:33:33.900 he was just absolutely,
00:33:35.940 he goes,
00:33:36.060 when I go to Europe,
00:33:36.780 you know Europe.
00:33:37.740 Oh yeah,
00:33:38.240 Europe,
00:33:38.580 the big interview.
00:33:39.120 He goes,
00:33:39.320 yeah,
00:33:39.660 yeah.
00:33:40.300 I mean,
00:33:40.620 he really wants
00:33:41.640 to stop World War III.
00:33:43.120 And absolutely,
00:33:44.280 and I don't think
00:33:45.440 I know, Ezra,
00:33:46.460 their attempt
00:33:47.220 to demonize
00:33:48.520 and shut this down,
00:33:49.740 it would have got
00:33:50.220 100 million views on X.
00:33:51.820 The Streisand effect
00:33:53.480 is going to get this
00:33:54.020 a billion views total
00:33:55.060 one way or another.
00:33:56.720 I think so,
00:33:57.640 because it's not just
00:33:58.420 Americans who want
00:33:59.300 to see it.
00:33:59.960 Everyone in Europe
00:34:00.540 wants to see it.
00:34:01.380 And everyone around
00:34:02.100 the world who wants
00:34:02.800 to see both Tucker
00:34:04.340 and Putin.
00:34:05.360 This is historic
00:34:06.860 in a way.
00:34:08.540 And I mean,
00:34:10.020 I'm curious,
00:34:10.720 and every hater
00:34:11.700 is curious too.
00:34:13.440 I mean,
00:34:13.740 both fans and foes
00:34:15.480 want to see it.
00:34:16.380 You don't think
00:34:17.040 every single analyst
00:34:18.160 at the CIA
00:34:19.040 and NATO
00:34:20.420 is going to watch it.
00:34:21.820 You don't think
00:34:22.300 Vladimir Zelensky
00:34:23.500 is going to watch it.
00:34:24.780 They want to hear
00:34:25.540 answers to real questions.
00:34:28.260 And I think
00:34:29.640 we can all judge
00:34:31.080 what we hear
00:34:31.840 for ourselves.
00:34:32.720 And the fact
00:34:33.220 that Hillary Clinton
00:34:34.040 or others
00:34:35.460 are actually talking
00:34:36.400 about criminalizing
00:34:38.040 this journalism
00:34:38.920 tells you a lot
00:34:39.980 more about them.
00:34:40.940 It's so funny
00:34:41.640 the projection.
00:34:42.620 And I'm not saying
00:34:43.260 that Putin's a good guy.
00:34:44.400 He's a former KGB agent.
00:34:46.040 I'm sure he's
00:34:46.880 ended some lives
00:34:49.320 directly.
00:34:51.520 He's not a pleasant dude.
00:34:53.720 But for people
00:34:54.680 like Hillary Clinton
00:34:55.560 to start talking
00:34:56.540 about authoritarian moves
00:34:58.060 like jailing journalists,
00:35:00.200 she doesn't even realize
00:35:02.020 how much she's projecting.
00:35:04.980 The authoritarian nature
00:35:06.200 of the left
00:35:06.840 has certainly come out
00:35:07.860 in regards to Tucker.
00:35:09.480 It's quite telling.
00:35:10.560 No, I totally agree.
00:35:11.640 And they're also now
00:35:12.500 saying they want
00:35:13.500 to use the Espionage Act.
00:35:14.920 And they say
00:35:15.380 if he exchanged questions
00:35:17.200 with Putin beforehand,
00:35:18.300 that's espionage.
00:35:19.280 No, espionage is giving
00:35:20.200 somebody missile secrets
00:35:21.480 or submarine secrets
00:35:22.940 during a war.
00:35:24.280 Tucker's not giving
00:35:25.020 them military secrets.
00:35:25.820 He's going and talking
00:35:26.460 to them.
00:35:27.700 You know,
00:35:28.340 we know about Democrats
00:35:30.460 who receive millions
00:35:31.600 of dollars in payments,
00:35:32.660 for example,
00:35:33.140 from the wife
00:35:34.340 of the former Moscow mayor.
00:35:35.760 We know about millions
00:35:37.120 of dollars going
00:35:38.180 to high-ranking Democrats,
00:35:39.860 even in the president's
00:35:40.640 own family from Russia.
00:35:42.360 That would,
00:35:42.900 if you're interested
00:35:43.520 in espionage
00:35:44.440 and corruption
00:35:45.560 and influence,
00:35:45.960 That's right.
00:35:46.460 If Putin gave him
00:35:47.340 $10 million to be pro-Russia,
00:35:49.220 that would be espionage.
00:35:50.260 But there's no evidence
00:35:51.140 of that.
00:35:52.020 But there is
00:35:52.700 $3 million from the Moscow mayor.
00:35:54.880 There is three,
00:35:55.280 and there is...
00:35:55.760 Yeah.
00:35:58.520 And listen,
00:35:59.540 Tucker doesn't need the money.
00:36:00.920 Tucker's doing just fine.
00:36:02.000 I think he's making
00:36:03.240 a name for himself.
00:36:04.220 I saw Christiane Amanpour,
00:36:05.500 I think it was,
00:36:06.540 saying,
00:36:06.980 oh, Tucker,
00:36:07.520 you're not the only one
00:36:08.460 trying to get...
00:36:09.400 He was criticizing Tucker
00:36:10.580 and saying,
00:36:10.880 oh, we've all been
00:36:11.480 trying to get it.
00:36:12.040 Well, that's...
00:36:12.480 It's jealousy partly, too,
00:36:15.240 isn't it?
00:36:16.340 I mean,
00:36:17.380 what journalist
00:36:18.340 wouldn't love
00:36:19.140 to have this moment?
00:36:20.020 You would.
00:36:20.680 I would.
00:36:21.620 Well, Tucker's the guy
00:36:22.540 with the momentum
00:36:23.220 and the gravity,
00:36:24.200 and he's been telegraphing
00:36:25.560 for years.
00:36:26.060 He wants this.
00:36:27.000 I bet he's been thinking
00:36:28.400 of his questions
00:36:29.260 for three years, Alex.
00:36:30.600 I'm looking forward
00:36:31.980 to seeing it,
00:36:32.580 and every hater
00:36:33.600 will be watching, too.
00:36:34.760 It's like what they used
00:36:35.360 to say about Howard Stern.
00:36:37.060 The only people
00:36:37.800 who listened longer
00:36:39.000 than the fans
00:36:39.860 were the foes,
00:36:41.000 and for the same reason.
00:36:41.940 What's he going to say next?
00:36:43.200 Except this isn't just jokes
00:36:44.740 and sex jokes.
00:36:46.160 This is the stuff
00:36:47.180 that wars and peace
00:36:48.920 are made of.
00:36:49.780 It's going to be historic,
00:36:50.860 I think.
00:36:51.440 I'm excited to see
00:36:52.300 some real journalism
00:36:53.200 instead of the propaganda
00:36:54.500 I see.
00:36:55.660 Well, I mean,
00:36:56.320 you're absolutely right,
00:36:57.120 and that's why
00:36:58.140 this is bigger than Tucker
00:36:59.120 or Vladimir Putin.
00:36:59.920 It's about stopping
00:37:00.520 World War III.
00:37:01.600 It's about Kennedy
00:37:02.260 getting on the phone
00:37:02.780 with Khrushchev
00:37:03.360 and the Cuban Missile Crisis
00:37:04.520 in the early 1960s.
00:37:06.000 We need this dialogue,
00:37:08.020 and we need to know
00:37:08.820 that all Americans
00:37:09.900 don't hate Russians,
00:37:10.740 and all Russians
00:37:11.320 don't hate Americans,
00:37:12.460 and that it's actually
00:37:13.060 the opposite of that.
00:37:14.400 And look,
00:37:14.700 I don't like hearing
00:37:15.380 the Ayatollah Khomeini
00:37:16.380 or Khomeini before that.
00:37:17.740 I don't like things
00:37:18.600 he was saying.
00:37:19.120 I don't like those guys,
00:37:19.960 but it was okay
00:37:20.900 when all those big
00:37:22.800 national 60 Minutes
00:37:24.220 reporters went and talked
00:37:25.720 to him because that's
00:37:26.560 what you're supposed to do,
00:37:27.860 and what they're really saying
00:37:29.120 is your children,
00:37:30.920 you're not allowed
00:37:31.800 as adults
00:37:32.780 to hear what another
00:37:34.040 adult is saying,
00:37:35.220 and that's just
00:37:35.800 the essence of tyranny,
00:37:36.740 and that's the essence
00:37:37.420 of being treated
00:37:38.220 like a child.
00:37:40.780 You know,
00:37:41.240 in Davos,
00:37:42.360 I'm not sure
00:37:42.800 if I told you,
00:37:43.460 when I was here
00:37:43.940 for the World Economic Forum,
00:37:45.100 remember,
00:37:45.520 so many companies
00:37:46.520 and countries
00:37:47.120 have a big pavilion
00:37:48.300 outside the secure area
00:37:50.620 so we could go into them
00:37:51.740 and see what they had to say
00:37:52.700 at the United Arab Emirates
00:37:54.380 or India or whatever.
00:37:56.240 Ukraine has a big pavilion
00:37:58.060 every time,
00:37:59.080 and I went there last year
00:37:59.940 and I went there this year,
00:38:01.220 and obviously,
00:38:02.460 it's their national message.
00:38:04.340 You could call it propaganda,
00:38:05.340 but I went there
00:38:06.880 with an open eyes,
00:38:07.840 an open heart,
00:38:08.660 and listen,
00:38:10.200 Alex,
00:38:10.540 the number one victims here
00:38:11.780 are the Ukrainian people.
00:38:13.440 How many hundreds of thousands
00:38:14.720 of people have been killed?
00:38:16.680 Young,
00:38:17.080 an entire generation
00:38:18.260 of young men.
00:38:18.840 I saw a report
00:38:19.440 that the average age
00:38:20.260 of the Ukrainian soldier
00:38:21.580 these days is 43
00:38:22.840 because they've wiped out
00:38:24.280 the generation of young people,
00:38:25.640 let alone the millions
00:38:26.840 who have fled the country
00:38:28.080 as refugees.
00:38:29.080 The number one beneficiary
00:38:31.560 of peace
00:38:32.220 would be the Ukrainian people,
00:38:33.900 and when I hear
00:38:35.340 the alternative
00:38:35.920 just flinging more men
00:38:38.160 into the meat grinder,
00:38:40.820 it's heartbreaking.
00:38:42.080 And now they want
00:38:44.000 to conscript women,
00:38:45.180 and even the former
00:38:46.040 U.S. top general
00:38:47.340 from NATO
00:38:47.860 just retired a few years ago.
00:38:49.360 He said two weeks ago,
00:38:50.660 it's time to conscript
00:38:51.980 the women.
00:38:52.720 This is barbaric.
00:38:55.000 You know,
00:38:55.680 it's heartbreaking,
00:38:56.700 and I tell you,
00:38:58.280 if I had one question
00:38:59.360 to ask Putin,
00:39:00.100 and I know I'll never
00:39:00.760 get the chance,
00:39:01.880 it would be this.
00:39:03.340 There's so many reports
00:39:04.580 from different people
00:39:05.580 who were there
00:39:06.280 that there was,
00:39:07.540 when Israel
00:39:08.420 was actually helping to,
00:39:11.000 Israel's friendly
00:39:11.800 with Ukraine and Russia.
00:39:13.620 So Israel was hosting
00:39:14.720 a kind of peace talk,
00:39:16.540 this is over a year ago,
00:39:17.900 and there was a general template
00:39:20.200 on a peace agreement,
00:39:21.980 and Boris Johnson
00:39:23.000 was dispatched
00:39:24.480 to scupper that deal
00:39:26.440 at the last moment
00:39:27.280 that's been widely reported
00:39:28.440 from various people
00:39:29.680 in the meeting.
00:39:31.160 How, and what did the West,
00:39:33.440 what did Ukraine gain
00:39:34.940 from the additional war
00:39:36.840 besides more devastation?
00:39:38.140 And Israel didn't get
00:39:39.040 any credit
00:39:39.640 for trying to stop the war.
00:39:41.200 Netanyahu did do that.
00:39:43.400 You know, it should have been,
00:39:44.400 I mean, could you imagine
00:39:45.360 if the war was stopped there?
00:39:46.740 I want to,
00:39:47.500 I would like to hear
00:39:48.660 Putin describe
00:39:49.740 what the deal was
00:39:51.420 and why it was called off
00:39:52.780 if he would be interested
00:39:53.740 in the deal,
00:39:54.660 because otherwise,
00:39:55.600 how does this end?
00:39:56.860 What's the end game
00:39:58.120 for Ukraine,
00:39:59.040 simply depopulating
00:40:00.980 the country,
00:40:01.680 throwing more men?
00:40:02.280 Well, that was my next question.
00:40:03.360 I mean, they now even admit
00:40:04.760 in the New York Times,
00:40:05.480 we knew this a year ago,
00:40:06.820 six months ago was certain,
00:40:08.200 they've been decimated,
00:40:09.160 they can't get new recruits,
00:40:10.160 the Russians never wanted
00:40:11.360 to take the whole country,
00:40:12.200 they wanted that security zone
00:40:13.220 and then to lure
00:40:14.320 the NATO proxy army
00:40:16.480 in for destruction.
00:40:17.220 What Putin said two years ago
00:40:18.220 has now been done.
00:40:19.620 I think it's fair to say
00:40:20.900 Ukraine has lost.
00:40:23.920 And they've lost
00:40:24.680 in a number of ways
00:40:25.580 and it's heartbreaking
00:40:26.480 and I say that
00:40:28.540 having gone through
00:40:29.880 and absorbed
00:40:31.360 the Ukrainian message
00:40:32.740 in Davos.
00:40:33.240 And I went in there knowing,
00:40:34.720 okay, I'm going to be getting
00:40:35.700 the full Monty
00:40:36.620 from the Ukrainian side.
00:40:37.940 But you know what?
00:40:38.840 It's a story of loss
00:40:40.100 and pain.
00:40:41.300 And yeah.
00:40:41.720 And they've been valued.
00:40:43.060 I mean, they're outnumbered,
00:40:44.140 you know,
00:40:44.440 10 to 1 by the Russians.
00:40:45.940 You can't deny the Ukrainians
00:40:47.120 have fought like hell,
00:40:47.960 but all the analysts knew
00:40:49.580 it was a suicide mission.
00:40:50.840 So the West sits back,
00:40:52.080 winds them up,
00:40:52.860 pushes them in to die,
00:40:54.080 knowing Russia was going to win.
00:40:55.400 You know,
00:40:57.540 Ukraine
00:40:58.440 had one of the largest
00:41:02.700 caches
00:41:03.360 of nuclear weapons
00:41:05.160 after the Cold War
00:41:06.040 because remember,
00:41:06.580 they were part of the Soviet Union
00:41:07.900 and other than
00:41:09.020 the Russian Federation itself,
00:41:11.200 Ukraine had the most nukes
00:41:12.580 of any country.
00:41:13.320 I think they had,
00:41:14.060 other than America,
00:41:15.040 I think they were in,
00:41:16.120 it was America,
00:41:16.940 Russia, Ukraine,
00:41:17.780 and then...
00:41:18.140 Yeah, Ukraine was positioned
00:41:19.180 for war by Europe, yeah.
00:41:23.060 And they were convinced
00:41:25.220 to give up their nukes.
00:41:26.600 And Bill Clinton signed,
00:41:27.620 I think it was called
00:41:28.120 the Bucharest Memorandum,
00:41:29.840 the Budapest Memorandum,
00:41:31.280 basically saying,
00:41:32.440 give up your nukes
00:41:33.220 and we promise we'll help you.
00:41:35.120 Well, that's sort of a parable,
00:41:37.360 isn't it?
00:41:37.820 Never give up your guns,
00:41:40.000 let alone your nukes.
00:41:41.760 If Ukraine had its nukes,
00:41:43.660 Russia never would have invaded.
00:41:45.260 And there's a parable there
00:41:46.460 about someone saying,
00:41:47.480 give up your own self-defense,
00:41:49.840 we'll take care of you.
00:41:51.320 That paper was worth nothing.
00:41:53.760 And my heart breaks.
00:41:55.160 You know, my own family
00:41:55.900 came from Ukraine
00:41:56.660 120 years ago.
00:41:57.640 Obviously, I regard myself
00:41:58.560 as a Canadian.
00:41:59.980 But, you know,
00:42:01.080 what a disaster that war has been,
00:42:03.360 but it's still celebrated
00:42:04.400 as a victory across the West.
00:42:17.480 Auer is a police officer,
00:42:18.020 rather than 43 contrario tonic experience
00:42:18.720 to get up and have.
00:42:20.700 It's now a life or life or cannot be
00:42:21.500 chosen,
00:42:30.280 I think it's less than a life,
00:42:31.060 also a task or a task.
00:42:33.820 So that's a victory.
00:42:35.560 Although,
00:42:36.740 let's work for you.
00:42:37.560 If you want us,
00:42:38.380 like how don't you hold it,
00:42:39.280 we'll be doing both forademies.