Rebel News Podcast - October 04, 2022


EZRA LEVANT | Jacinda Ardern, the New Zealand Trudeau, flies to the UN to call for internet censorship


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

158.60358

Word Count

7,737

Sentence Count

599

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern's speech to the United Nation's Economic and Human Rights Council on September 30th. She called for the internet to be banned in all its forms, including the use of the internet. She also suggested that people who post on social media in New Zealand should be punished for it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today I'm going to take you painstakingly, and it will be painful both for
00:00:05.520 you and for me, through Jacinda Ardern's speech at the UN a couple weeks ago. She's the New Zealand
00:00:11.580 Prime Minister who is even worse than Justin Trudeau. I'm going to take you through about
00:00:15.620 half her speech, which is probably too much, but I want you to hear it for yourself. I want you to
00:00:19.620 hear how she says that words must be banned just like nukes, that words are weapons. And she's got
00:00:26.960 this theory, at least I think. I think she's saying that the war in Russia and Ukraine is the
00:00:32.720 fault of people who post on Facebook in New Zealand. Again, I will play for you her actual remarks so you
00:00:37.700 can see them for yourself. And I'd like you to see them, not just hear them. And by that, I mean
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00:01:14.180 All right, here's to this show.
00:01:16.280 Tonight, Jacinda Ardern, New Zealand's version of Justin Trudeau, flies to the U.N. to call
00:01:37.340 for global internet censorship. It's October 3rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:42.540 You're fighting for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:01:57.500 Do you remember this video clip of Jacinda Ardern, New Zealand's prime minister early in
00:02:02.380 the pandemic? What a little fascist she is. We will share with you the most up-to-date
00:02:08.060 information daily. You can trust us as a source of that information. You can also trust the
00:02:14.640 Director General of Health and the Ministry of Health. For that information, do feel free
00:02:20.040 to visit at any time to clarify any rumour you may hear, covid19.govt.nz. Otherwise, dismiss
00:02:28.780 anything else. We will continue to be your single source of truth. We will provide information
00:02:34.440 frequently. We will share everything we can. Everything you are, else you see, a grain
00:02:41.020 of salt. And so I really ask people to focus on that.
00:02:43.880 Well, there's a great example of that. It appears to be this text which originated in Malaysia
00:02:47.620 and has become a viral hoax in Australia and in New Zealand. How irresponsible is it the
00:02:52.320 people that are sharing that news of a lockdown imminent in New Zealand?
00:02:55.460 Yeah. And look, that's the kind of thing that adds to the anxiety that people feel. So I
00:03:01.040 continue to share the message. New Zealanders must prepare. But do not panic. Prepare. And
00:03:07.300 when you see those messages, remember that unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth.
00:03:14.020 And I really ask people, just visit covid19.govt.nz. It has all of the up-to-date information.
00:03:21.800 And we will continue to provide everything you need to know.
00:03:25.440 You know, sometimes people tell me to change the name of Rebel News. And I think the number
00:03:29.060 one suggestion people give me is to call it Truth News. And obviously, I believe we tell
00:03:34.900 the truth. But I also know that there are other points of view out there. And from time to time,
00:03:39.300 we can get things wrong. And someone can see things from another angle. It's like a car accident.
00:03:44.820 Two different witnesses standing in two different places can tell two different stories. But
00:03:49.140 they're both telling the truth. They saw it. And so I would never say we're called Truth News,
00:03:54.200 because I would never be so absolutely certain that we could never be wrong and that our critics
00:03:59.740 could never be right. That's not a false modesty. It's just there are some things that we don't know.
00:04:04.940 And there are some things I'm sure that we think we know that we will one day realize we're wrong.
00:04:10.120 I suppose that's all obvious. Our command of the world is imperfect and always will be. Only God
00:04:15.040 is omniscient and omnipotent. We are flawed. And anyone who tells you they're not is either
00:04:20.220 misleading you or misleading themselves. That's why we're not called Truth News.
00:04:24.560 And that's why Jacinda Ardern is a wacky tyrant when she tells you to dismiss anything else you hear,
00:04:31.100 dismiss anyone else who contradicts her. And she says that sight unseen in advance of hearing any critic.
00:04:37.500 Without yet hearing the objection, she rules it out. We will continue to be your single source of
00:04:43.180 truth. A Christian pastor could say the Bible is the perfect truth, and maybe he's right. But he
00:04:49.160 doesn't have the power of the police and the state to back him up, or even the power of censorship over
00:04:53.860 YouTube and Facebook to back him up. And I think that pastor would probably say the Bible is the
00:04:59.820 perfect truth. I doubt he would say that he himself, a flawed sinner, was a perfect source of truth.
00:05:05.760 Imagine saying that about yourself. Dismiss anyone else, everything else. We're the single source of
00:05:12.080 truth. And that if anyone else says something contradictory, ignore them without question.
00:05:17.920 And don't you worry about any of this. Don't you worry your pretty little head. We will continue
00:05:22.860 to provide everything you need to know. Really, who talks that way? Well, Jacinda Ardern does.
00:05:30.740 And you know, she hitched a ride recently with Justin Trudeau, her left-wing globalist mini-me,
00:05:36.440 from London to New York. They were both in London for the Queen's funeral, and in Trudeau's case,
00:05:41.200 to do some drunken singing in a bar, in a party atmosphere.
00:05:58.040 Yeah, Trudeau's so classy. So what did they talk about on that flight to New York?
00:06:05.380 Well, they're both young World Economic Forum types. I guess they're not so young anymore.
00:06:09.400 I mean, Klaus Schwab is pretty proud of them.
00:06:12.020 What we are very proud of now is the young generation, like Prime Minister Trudeau,
00:06:18.420 president of Argentina and so on, that we penetrate the cabinets.
00:06:25.200 I think they probably talked about the things they have in common, their love of authoritarianism,
00:06:30.520 taking rights away from people, replacing local sovereignty with globalist control,
00:06:35.500 censorship, forced vaccines, gun control. But out of all those things, censorship is the most important
00:06:43.480 because if you still have free speech left, you can fight to regain your other rights. But without
00:06:49.140 free speech, you can't. So let me show you what Trudeau and his U.S. taxpayers paid to bring Ardern to
00:06:58.460 New York to say. Here are some clips from Ardern's visit to the UN and her big speech there.
00:07:04.060 Of course, she starts off in Maori. I mean, if you think Justin Trudeau is woke and virtue signaling,
00:07:08.900 he's never tried this before.
00:07:10.680 I don't think Ardern actually knows how to speak Maori. I think he's a good one.
00:07:16.280 I don't think Ardern actually knows how to speak Maori. I think she just memorized those lines like an actor, like Trudeau is an actor.
00:07:44.580 Like when he rattled off this for a reporter on command. He's good at memorizing a few lines, not much more.
00:07:50.960 I was going to ask you to explain quantum computing, but when do you expect Canada's ISIL mission to begin again?
00:08:00.340 And are we not doing anything in the interim while we prepare?
00:08:04.660 Okay. Very simply, normal computers work by...
00:08:11.660 Come on down. Don't interrupt me. When you walk out of here, you will know more. No, some of you will know far less about quantum computing.
00:08:20.840 But most of you, normal computers work either there's power going through a wire or not. It's one or a zero.
00:08:27.220 They're binary systems. What quantum states allow for is much more complex information to be encoded into a single bit.
00:08:35.600 A regular computer bit is either a one or a zero, on or off. A quantum state can be much more complex than that because, as we know,
00:08:43.060 things can be both particle and wave at the same times, and the uncertainty around quantum states allows us to encode more information into a much smaller computer.
00:08:53.520 So that's what's exciting about quantum computing, and that's what we're going to do.
00:09:01.820 Back to the speech at the UN. Here's what she said.
00:09:05.900 COVID-19 was devastating. It took millions of lives.
00:09:10.340 That's not quite true. It did take millions of lives, if you trust the statistics.
00:09:15.720 But I know that in the West, the statistics included anyone, often, who died within 30 days of a diagnosis of COVID.
00:09:22.660 So they could have died from some other cause, but COVID was to blame.
00:09:26.600 It made more money that way for hospitals, for more excitement for TV doctors, for politicians, for vaccine companies.
00:09:33.380 Now, that's the disease, and I'm not minimizing its actual death toll.
00:09:37.760 I'm saying there was massive overcounting, as many jurisdictions have since grudgingly acknowledged.
00:09:42.980 But look at what she moves to immediately.
00:09:45.520 Sure, she cares about COVID. I don't doubt it.
00:09:48.720 But she cares about using COVID for other political goals, too.
00:09:51.900 Listen to this.
00:09:53.040 It set us back in our fight against the crisis of climate change and progress on the sustainable development goals,
00:10:00.120 while we looked to the health crisis that was right in front of us.
00:10:04.560 Global warming. That's what she really cares about.
00:10:07.460 The lessons of COVID are, in many ways, the same as the lessons of climate change.
00:10:11.960 When crisis is upon us, we cannot and will not solve these issues on our own.
00:10:19.880 The next pandemic will not be prevented by one country's efforts, but by all of ours.
00:10:24.820 Climate action will only ever be as successful as the least committed country,
00:10:29.440 as they pull down the ambition of the collective.
00:10:32.260 She really is doing that.
00:10:34.200 She really is using the deaths of people as a political platform to stand on,
00:10:38.380 stand on the dead bodies to push her obsession with global warming.
00:10:41.480 If you think it's absurd for Canada, with our tiny population of 38 million people,
00:10:46.100 to try to stop the world from warming, imagine how nutty it is for New Zealand to do that.
00:10:50.800 They're just 5 million people.
00:10:52.740 And you have to fly across the ocean to get anywhere.
00:10:55.180 Imagine being obsessed by that.
00:10:57.480 So naturally, she goes to globalism, giving the power to faraway organizations like the United Nations.
00:11:03.080 We need a dual strategy, one where we push for collective effort,
00:11:08.600 but where we also use our multilateral tools to make progress.
00:11:13.880 And that's why on Pandemic Preparedness,
00:11:17.080 we support efforts to develop a new global health legal instrument,
00:11:22.680 strengthened international health regulations,
00:11:24.760 and a strong and empowered world health organization.
00:11:29.020 The world health organization?
00:11:30.600 She wants to give them more power, the one that's run by China?
00:11:34.180 The same world health organization that told the world,
00:11:36.580 don't worry, COVID-19 is not contagious, that world health organization?
00:11:40.940 Has anyone over there actually been fired?
00:11:43.260 I mean, I know you can't unelect them, but seriously, not a soul over there fired.
00:11:48.280 She talked more about global warming, you know, in her bones.
00:11:51.700 She wants to bring in climate lockdowns, just like COVID lockdowns.
00:11:55.540 You know she wants to.
00:11:57.740 She did some virtue signaling about Ukraine and calls for the abolition of nuclear weapons.
00:12:02.680 By the West, of course.
00:12:03.720 I mean, do you think China or Russia would ever give them up?
00:12:06.300 Listen.
00:12:07.140 Nuclear weapons do not make us safer.
00:12:11.060 There will be those who agree,
00:12:13.060 but believe it's simply too hard to rid ourselves of nuclear weapons at this juncture.
00:12:17.160 There is no question that nuclear disarmament is an enormous challenge.
00:12:23.040 But if given the choice, and we are being given a choice,
00:12:27.100 surely we would choose the challenge of disarmament,
00:12:30.380 then the consequences of a failed strategy of weapons-based deterrence.
00:12:36.140 What does that mean?
00:12:37.500 I mean, she has no nukes in New Zealand, neither does Canada.
00:12:41.120 So she's calling on America to disarm,
00:12:43.480 but let China and Russia keep their nukes?
00:12:45.580 You know, she used to be the youth head of the Socialist International.
00:12:49.340 She's still got that pro-Soviet message track.
00:12:53.220 But look, she's got no chance to eliminate nukes.
00:12:56.620 She was just saying that to impress her old socialist friends.
00:12:59.560 She does, however, have the power to censor New Zealanders,
00:13:03.400 and that was the main point of her speech.
00:13:06.200 Traditional combat, espionage, and the threat of nuclear weapons
00:13:09.520 are now accompanied by cyber attacks, prolific disinformation,
00:13:14.920 and manipulation of whole communities and societies.
00:13:17.780 Remember, she's your only source of truth.
00:13:21.280 Ignore everyone else.
00:13:22.440 And if she has to call everyone else a foreign spy or disinformation agent,
00:13:26.960 she will.
00:13:27.640 I mean, she would never engage in misinformation herself.
00:13:30.340 Oh, no, no.
00:13:31.720 Only her critics do that.
00:13:32.920 Now, as leaders, we have never treated the weapons of old
00:13:36.780 in the same way as those that have emerged.
00:13:39.980 And that's understandable.
00:13:41.880 After all, a bullet takes a life.
00:13:44.340 A bomb takes out a whole village.
00:13:46.900 A lie online or from a podium does not.
00:13:50.900 But what if that lie, told repeatedly and across many platforms,
00:13:56.180 prompts and spies or motivates others to take up arms,
00:13:59.740 to threaten the security of others,
00:14:02.700 to turn a blind eye to atrocities,
00:14:04.660 or worse, to become complicit in them?
00:14:06.680 What then?
00:14:07.800 Every action comes from an idea, obviously.
00:14:11.100 But there is an enormous difference between an idea and an action.
00:14:15.060 She would literally ban ideas, thoughts, words
00:14:18.480 that in her prophecy could possibly one day lead to a conflict
00:14:22.080 that she doesn't like.
00:14:23.880 I'm not sure what words she thinks led to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
00:14:27.800 I'm not sure if she's blaming some Facebook post in New Zealand
00:14:30.380 for causing that war.
00:14:31.760 I think it was Russia's Vladimir Putin that did the invasion.
00:14:35.260 He sensed weakness in the West, especially under Joe Biden.
00:14:38.080 I don't think it was some comment on Facebook or YouTube
00:14:40.140 that made him do it.
00:14:41.200 I think it was the state of Russia itself
00:14:43.720 that committed the violence, by the way,
00:14:45.060 not an ordinary citizen, certainly not one in New Zealand.
00:14:47.860 But she somehow has blamed everyone who has an idea she doesn't like,
00:14:52.100 who says a word she doesn't like.
00:14:53.480 She blames them for an invasion by an authoritarian ruler
00:14:57.100 halfway around the world?
00:14:58.380 What?
00:14:59.000 Here's some more.
00:14:59.980 This is no longer a hypothetical.
00:15:02.580 The weapons of war have changed.
00:15:04.940 They are upon us and require the same level of action and activity
00:15:08.500 that we put into the weapons of old.
00:15:12.440 We recognize the threats that the old weapons created.
00:15:15.540 We came together as communities to minimize these threats.
00:15:18.580 We created international rules, norms, and expectations.
00:15:22.780 We never saw that as a threat to our individual liberties.
00:15:26.560 Rather, it was a preservation of them.
00:15:29.560 The same must apply now as we take on these new challenges.
00:15:32.980 She's speaking vaguely, but her point is clear.
00:15:36.300 Words are weapons, and she wants to ban word weapons
00:15:39.680 that she doesn't like.
00:15:40.900 Now, she briefly tips her hat to freedom of speech,
00:15:43.600 and then the word but comes in.
00:15:46.000 It's like Salman Rushdie always says.
00:15:47.600 Ignore everything before the word but.
00:15:50.960 And now, the moment somebody says,
00:15:52.920 yes, I believe in free speech, but, I stop listening.
00:15:59.580 You know, I believe in free speech, but people should behave themselves.
00:16:09.120 I believe in free speech, but we shouldn't upset anybody.
00:16:12.440 I believe in free speech, but let's not go too far.
00:16:15.020 The point about it is the moment you limit free speech, it's not free speech.
00:16:21.280 The point about it is that it's free.
00:16:24.520 Exactly.
00:16:25.180 Now, watch this clip and listen for the word but.
00:16:27.880 In New Zealand, we deeply value our right to protest.
00:16:33.140 Some of our major social progress has been brought about by hekoi, or people power.
00:16:38.780 Becoming the first country in the world to recognise women's right to vote.
00:16:42.900 Movement on major indigenous and human rights issues, to name but a few.
00:16:46.340 Upholding these values in a modern environment translates into protecting a free, secure, and open internet.
00:16:56.500 To realise all of the opportunities that it presents in the way we communicate, the way we organise, the way we gather.
00:17:02.200 But that does not mean the absence of transparency, expectations, or even rules, if we correctly identify what it is we are trying to prevent.
00:17:13.300 Did you hear the word but, make an appearance, but?
00:17:18.440 And surely we can start with violent extremism and terrorist content online.
00:17:24.080 Okay, well, terrorism is already banned online in every country in the world.
00:17:27.660 Of course, she means incitement of terrorism, which is banned.
00:17:30.580 No one is actually killed online.
00:17:32.360 But that's already banned under criminal law and by the social media platforms, too.
00:17:36.340 They don't allow terrorism online.
00:17:38.480 But she uses the phrase extremism and the word content, which only she will define, like Trudeau did.
00:17:44.980 I mean, he called the peaceful truckers extremists.
00:17:47.780 He actually defamed them as violent, too.
00:17:50.360 Ardern moves from rare terrorist attacks to treating everyone online as a potential terrorist
00:17:56.220 and getting algorithms to suffocate dissenting opinions.
00:18:00.220 This week, we launched an initiative alongside companies and non-profits
00:18:03.480 to help improve research and understanding of how a person's online experiences are curated by automated processes.
00:18:11.720 This will also be important in understanding more about myths and disinformation online,
00:18:17.240 a challenge that we must, as leaders, address.
00:18:21.740 Sadly, I think it's easy to dismiss this problem as one in the margins.
00:18:26.000 I can certainly understand the desire to leave it to someone else.
00:18:29.980 She's saying it's not rare.
00:18:31.860 She's saying it's not on the margins.
00:18:33.720 She's saying everyone you meet could be a potential terrorist.
00:18:38.020 Everyone who has extreme opinions, like opposing her on climate or the lockdowns, I imagine.
00:18:43.080 That's extreme to her.
00:18:44.240 As leaders, we're rightly concerned that even the most light-touch approaches to disinformation
00:18:49.880 could be misinterpreted as being hostile to the values of free speech that we value so highly.
00:18:57.560 But while I cannot tell you today what the answer is to this challenge,
00:19:01.860 I can say with complete certainty that we cannot ignore it.
00:19:05.980 To do so poses an equal threat to the norms we all value.
00:19:10.560 Did you hear the word but appear there again?
00:19:12.940 I love free speech, but we can't ignore the problems with free speech.
00:19:17.240 But it's a threat.
00:19:18.360 But, always the word but.
00:19:20.440 After all, how do you successfully end a war
00:19:23.520 if people are led to believe the reason for its existence is not only legal but noble?
00:19:30.780 How do you tackle climate change if people do not believe it exists?
00:19:34.980 How do you ensure the human rights of others are upheld
00:19:37.720 when they are subjected to hateful and dangerous rhetoric and ideology?
00:19:41.880 Is she saying that censoring people in New Zealand on Facebook
00:19:45.480 will cause Putin and Zelensky to end a war?
00:19:49.300 Did the war start because of something her citizens said?
00:19:52.620 If not, why are they being punished for the war?
00:19:55.340 She literally says that free speech is a weapon of war that needs to be defeated.
00:19:59.220 The weapons may be different, but the goals of those who perpetuate them is often the same.
00:20:06.080 To cause chaos and reduce the ability of others to defend themselves.
00:20:10.280 To disband communities.
00:20:12.380 To collapse the collective strength of countries who work together.
00:20:16.760 But we have an opportunity here to ensure that these particular weapons of war
00:20:21.980 do not become an established part of warfare.
00:20:24.740 That's what she's saying.
00:20:26.440 She's saying that free speech is what caused the war.
00:20:28.900 So it must be stopped.
00:20:30.400 It's actually violence, not just speech.
00:20:33.060 And so, once again, come back to the primary tool we have.
00:20:38.040 Diplomacy.
00:20:39.400 Dialogue.
00:20:40.620 Working together on solutions that do not undermine human rights, but enhance them.
00:20:45.220 By the way, what diplomacy in Ukraine has she ever supported?
00:20:49.200 I haven't seen any.
00:20:51.300 Jacinda Ardern is an even more authoritarian bully than Justin Trudeau is.
00:20:54.900 And because New Zealand is an island, she can sort of be more abusive to her citizens
00:20:59.120 than even Trudeau can be.
00:21:01.340 And their media is even worse than ours in many ways.
00:21:05.020 But she and France's Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau all share the World Economic Forum
00:21:10.560 globalist view on free speech that it is the problem, not Putin.
00:21:14.060 Free speech is a weapon that needs to be destroyed.
00:21:18.020 But really, if all you need to know, if all the truth you could ever want comes from Jacinda
00:21:22.920 Ardern, herself, why would you ever want to think a thought by yourself?
00:21:29.780 Stay with us for more.
00:21:30.820 Well, there was a spectacular act of what many are calling sabotage, the Nord Stream undersea
00:21:50.240 gas pipeline that ships gas from Russia to Europe blown up.
00:21:55.220 Who did it?
00:21:56.780 Accusations that Russia did to themselves.
00:21:59.360 Other accusations that seemed to me more logical were that it was done by a Western power.
00:22:05.080 Who knows?
00:22:06.080 The world is full of disinformation.
00:22:09.560 The Ukraine-Russian war is an example of that.
00:22:12.180 If you think that's hard to figure out, imagine trying to decipher what's going on in communist
00:22:18.540 China.
00:22:19.240 There's a language barrier, a cultural barrier.
00:22:21.380 Of course, the great internet firewall of China makes it hard to pierce through that
00:22:28.120 country's information.
00:22:29.960 And I ask that because what is happening to Xi Jinping?
00:22:34.960 There are internet rumors that he is facing internal dissent, which is a difficult thing
00:22:41.440 to muster in an authoritarian regime.
00:22:43.760 Is that just propaganda?
00:22:45.800 Well, here's a tweet of Xi Jinping making a public appearance.
00:22:49.840 This is from our friend Gordon G. Chang.
00:22:52.880 He shows an image of Xi Jinping appearing in public with a mask on.
00:22:58.720 Does that mean he's still alive?
00:23:01.420 Does that mean he's in power?
00:23:02.880 Does that mean there is no internal turmoil?
00:23:06.260 I find these things difficult to understand, but I want to understand them.
00:23:10.700 So we're delighted to have Gordon Chang himself appear on our channel, as he often does.
00:23:15.800 Gordon, great to see you again.
00:23:16.900 Thank you very much for taking the time.
00:23:19.360 What's going on in China?
00:23:20.560 What's up with Xi Jinping?
00:23:21.800 Is he in trouble?
00:23:24.140 Ezra, I think he is in a little bit of hot water.
00:23:27.620 And you'd expect that, because you've got the economy in reality is contracting.
00:23:32.480 There's the debt crisis.
00:23:34.180 The currency is plunging.
00:23:36.160 Property prices and sales are falling.
00:23:39.720 And yet Xi Jinping seems like he'll get his third term, precedent-breaking third term,
00:23:45.100 as general secretary of the Communist Party, when the party holds its 20th National Congress
00:23:50.160 in October.
00:23:50.880 The point here, though, is that there were rumors a week ago of a coup.
00:23:56.140 Those rumors were false.
00:23:57.520 But something actually did happen.
00:23:59.480 We just don't know why.
00:24:00.960 So, for instance, about 60% of China's flights were canceled.
00:24:05.340 The Chinese military controls the airspace.
00:24:08.540 Rail and bus traffic into Beijing was canceled.
00:24:12.000 So, something did occur.
00:24:14.760 It's just that, as you say, China's very opaque, and we have no idea, really, of the full extent
00:24:20.180 of what's occurred.
00:24:21.600 You know, that's fascinating.
00:24:23.100 Imagine shutting down just every airline.
00:24:25.560 It feels like something out of a Jason Bourne movie, where the CIA would just turn off the
00:24:31.600 power to catch one guy.
00:24:33.180 Who knows what the reason is behind that?
00:24:35.580 You know, I would have thought that Xi Jinping was doing well because of Russia's troubles.
00:24:42.340 I mean, Russia's looking for friends and allies, looking for customers for its oil and gas.
00:24:47.160 I mean, who knows what it's going to do now that that pipeline was blown up.
00:24:51.260 And Xi Jinping seems ready to stand by and be the bigger partner, the senior partner.
00:24:56.820 That's at least how it looked to me that one of the beneficiaries of the Russia-Ukraine war
00:25:02.480 was China.
00:25:04.060 Am I wrong on that?
00:25:05.120 Did China manage to get cheap energy or political concessions from Putin?
00:25:11.520 Well, certainly, China and India have gotten cheap energy, and China has been effectively
00:25:17.120 financing the war with its elevated commodity purchases from Russia.
00:25:21.880 China benefits in the sense that the world now focuses on Putin, so that means we're not
00:25:27.460 focusing on Xi Jinping.
00:25:29.760 And I think that the Chinese feel that that's an advantage.
00:25:32.540 Also, they like the idea that the Russians are taking on the international order, and so
00:25:38.340 they don't have to.
00:25:39.900 But clearly, Putin and Xi Jinping do view the world in the same terms.
00:25:44.340 They think their interests coincide.
00:25:46.480 And they identify the same enemy, which is us.
00:25:49.380 I think if I was trying to explain NATO's approach to Ukraine, and you tell me what you think
00:25:58.560 here, because I'm just going on a limb here.
00:26:02.280 Why is the U.S. Congress, why is the Pentagon, why is it so focused on the war, giving massive
00:26:10.160 military grants, and why is there almost no talk of peace negotiations from official sources?
00:26:16.480 My theory is that the Pentagon, and also the U.K. and other parts of NATO, and the Five
00:26:23.220 Eyes, see that Russia is trapped in Ukraine, and American military hardware, and according
00:26:31.340 to the New York Times, the CIA is helping to quarterback things out of Kiev, it's sort of
00:26:35.420 like they've got the Russian bear in a leghole trap, and they're using modern American weapons
00:26:42.120 to grind down Russia militarily, burn out its equipment, hurt its economy, harm Putin democratically.
00:26:52.840 So they don't really want peace, because they are degrading Russia's military so substantially,
00:27:01.280 and perhaps even in a way that caught Russia by surprise.
00:27:04.820 That's my theory.
00:27:05.980 There's sort of fighting to the last Ukrainian.
00:27:08.480 I mean, Ukraine is the punching bag, but it's Russian casualties of the NATO goal.
00:27:13.580 That's my theory.
00:27:14.380 I don't know what you think about that.
00:27:16.100 And I wonder if that's a premonition for what the U.S. might do, God forbid, if China were
00:27:23.760 to make a move on Taiwan.
00:27:26.400 Obviously, the difference is Taiwan is an island that could be embargoed, whereas Ukraine can
00:27:31.460 be supplied by land.
00:27:33.760 Maybe I'm wandering too much into speculation here, or wandering off the subject, but I wonder
00:27:39.860 if what NATO and America are doing in Ukraine is a—and insofar as it may have shocked Putin—I wonder
00:27:48.000 if there's any lesson there for China and its ambitions.
00:27:53.120 I think the lesson that China takes is very different from what we think.
00:27:58.400 The Western narrative is that the heroic resistance of Ukraine has made China think twice about invading
00:28:06.520 Taiwan.
00:28:06.960 That's what we would like to believe.
00:28:09.580 I think, though, that China sees something very different, and that is the failure of
00:28:14.360 the West to deter Russia from invading Ukraine.
00:28:18.160 You've got to remember that last year, the coalition that was arrayed against Russia,
00:28:22.800 the United States, 27 nations of the European Union, and Great Britain had an economy that
00:28:28.160 was 25.1 times larger than Russia's, and yet we absolutely failed to maintain peace in Ukraine.
00:28:35.000 And I think that China looks at that and says that the West is feeble, it's incapable, and
00:28:42.080 so therefore, Beijing has latitude to do what it wants.
00:28:46.120 Also, you know, they see the sanctions regime on Russia, and the sanctions regime hasn't stopped
00:28:51.520 the Russian war machine.
00:28:53.340 So Beijing probably believes that any sanctions imposed on China for invading Taiwan or something
00:28:59.000 else are not going to really affect Beijing's ability to accomplish its military objectives.
00:29:05.380 Yeah, I think that touches on something you and I discussed last time we met, which was
00:29:09.120 if Western Europe couldn't get off of Russian oil and gas, like if they refused to sanction
00:29:16.080 their own lifeline of energy from Russia, how could they possibly sanction China, which is so
00:29:23.500 dominant in everything from electronics to, well, just, there's almost no field of indebtor.
00:29:30.400 Pharmaceuticals, 90% plus of our medicine is made in China.
00:29:35.360 So many, our gadgets are made in China.
00:29:38.320 If you can't sanction Russia for natural gas, you're never going to sanction China for everything
00:29:47.080 in the economy.
00:29:48.080 I think you're right.
00:29:49.040 That's probably the lesson they're saying, which is sanctions are more PR than bite, more
00:29:54.200 bark than bite.
00:29:56.440 Yes, well, you know, I believe that that's what Beijing, in fact, thinks.
00:30:00.980 Now, we can talk all day about whether Beijing is right about that, because this is a complicated
00:30:06.580 issue about the effect of sanctions and how they work.
00:30:09.580 But that's the lesson that I believe that Beijing has taken away.
00:30:13.220 And that's a very dangerous lesson, because deterrence has already been breaking down.
00:30:17.540 It was breaking down, we saw in March of last year, when China sent its top two diplomats
00:30:21.780 to Anchorage to talk to our top two diplomats.
00:30:25.620 And China, you know, in that open public session on the first day, actually said, well, look,
00:30:31.180 China can, the U.S. can no longer talk to China from a position of strength.
00:30:34.780 That was chilling.
00:30:36.320 But since then, we've seen the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, the failure of deterrence
00:30:41.220 in Ukraine.
00:30:42.320 And I believe that Beijing is looking at the world and thinking about what it can get away
00:30:46.920 with.
00:30:47.480 Right.
00:30:48.060 You know, let me ask you this.
00:30:49.480 You mentioned perhaps some of the bubbles in China's economy are shrinking, the real estate
00:30:55.740 bubble, some of the banking issues.
00:30:58.260 I think that a lot of China's strength was its promise, its growth, lifting up hundreds
00:31:05.040 of millions of people from poverty to the middle class.
00:31:07.640 I mean, just think about all the construction.
00:31:09.300 Think about all the infrastructure.
00:31:11.720 Like, it's such a promise.
00:31:13.620 China's promise is this enormous market that will move from poor to middle class.
00:31:18.880 But a lot of that is based on hope and confidence and projections.
00:31:22.500 I mean, it's a very large country now, but it has quite a long ways to go.
00:31:27.440 Perhaps if it had an existential conflict with the West that caused, if not actual sanctions,
00:31:36.780 but caused a breaking of the psychological, emotional connection between China and the West,
00:31:44.400 that the West no longer thought of China as a partner or a place to invest or a place to
00:31:52.180 grow, maybe just the loss of confidence that China had unfettered access to the West, maybe
00:31:57.980 that would cause collapse because it's still, you know, it's more promise than actual economic
00:32:05.700 success.
00:32:06.020 Again, I'm speculating here.
00:32:07.520 I'm outside my area of expertise.
00:32:09.160 I guess what I'm saying is Russia already had a number of collapses.
00:32:14.600 It's shrunk in the world and you can't really shrink oil and gas.
00:32:20.980 That's a global commodity.
00:32:22.140 People are always going to want it.
00:32:23.520 But a lot of China's strength is the prospect of a million new skyscrapers, the prospect of
00:32:30.460 new rail and airlines.
00:32:32.380 And that prospect depends on continued access to Western markets and capital.
00:32:37.580 Is that, is there anything to that speculative theory?
00:32:41.780 I think what's occurring right now is that psychological change that you're talking about.
00:32:47.180 You know, we're starting to see companies withdraw from China, starting to build production facilities
00:32:54.820 elsewhere.
00:32:55.200 So they're not so dependent on factories on Chinese soil.
00:32:59.420 And there's been a reassessment of China's role in the world.
00:33:03.340 So these are not working to the benefit of the Communist Party.
00:33:07.760 We are seeing, I think, very different attitudes.
00:33:10.860 And, you know, one thing that has triggered this, you know, we were just talking about Ukraine,
00:33:15.300 is China's full-throated support for the Russian war effort in Eastern Europe.
00:33:20.940 That is something that has forced people in countries and companies and, you know, and
00:33:27.740 barbershops to just see China in a very different light.
00:33:31.600 Let me ask you one last question about Hong Kong.
00:33:36.900 What a valiant, peaceful struggle the people of that city had in the streets, in the universities.
00:33:44.200 But in the end, they succumbed to the relentless, I guess, soft violence.
00:33:51.700 And that's a contradiction.
00:33:53.380 But they succumbed, I think.
00:33:55.220 And the one there in the world was really there to help.
00:33:57.400 And how would they help anyways?
00:33:59.760 I think a lot of lights have gone out in Hong Kong, especially in terms of democratic opposition,
00:34:06.280 the media.
00:34:06.780 I find it incredibly sad.
00:34:08.540 And it's almost like there was no marking of that funeral.
00:34:16.340 It just sort of happened, I think.
00:34:18.120 I don't know.
00:34:18.520 I find it terribly sad.
00:34:20.220 But has the world actually pulled out of Hong Kong?
00:34:24.960 Have companies relocated to Singapore, thought twice?
00:34:28.880 Or are they saying, all right, well, we'll just keep doing business and now we'll know
00:34:33.560 it's a little bit less free.
00:34:35.020 But we need the money.
00:34:36.380 Like, has the death of freedom in Hong Kong actually hurt Hong Kong economically and China
00:34:43.340 economically?
00:34:44.260 Or are as was it Solzhenitsyn or said, please don't capitalists will say or was it Lenin who
00:34:51.700 said capitalists will sell us the rope by which we'll hang them?
00:34:54.740 Are the world's capitalists just so hungry for that market that they don't care?
00:35:00.320 You see, businesses are reducing their exposure to Hong Kong.
00:35:04.800 They're moving to Singapore or elsewhere.
00:35:07.620 And largely it's because what China has done in Hong Kong is it just smothered freedom.
00:35:15.040 And that has had consequences.
00:35:17.220 So Hong Kong right now is probably less free than the mainland.
00:35:21.320 There's less room for political conversation.
00:35:26.160 And that's having effect.
00:35:27.700 So I think that essentially we are going to see Hong Kong just erode.
00:35:32.700 It'll remain a financial center, Ezra, but it won't be an international financial center.
00:35:39.260 It will be a Chinese financial center like Shenzhen or Shanghai, but it won't be the same.
00:35:45.980 Very interesting.
00:35:46.840 I find these are dark days and I don't want to be reflexive and say, well, if Donald Trump
00:35:52.880 were here, these things wouldn't happen.
00:35:54.740 But I have to say when Donald Trump was in power, a lot of these things did not happen.
00:35:59.960 I think a lot of authoritarians hesitated, didn't take risks because they, you know,
00:36:06.280 the very things Trump was accused of, erratic, wild, radical.
00:36:10.560 Well, that's what actually scared the tyrants because they didn't know what Trump's reaction
00:36:17.440 would be.
00:36:17.940 With Biden, you always know what's going to be underwhelming.
00:36:21.440 I mean, why did the Taliban make their move under Biden instead of under Trump?
00:36:27.560 Why did Russia make their move under Biden instead of Trump?
00:36:31.140 I'm not saying Trump is flawless, but I'm saying his very character, which liberals often hate,
00:36:39.420 is probably what was necessary in this foreign affairs world today.
00:36:43.540 What do you think?
00:36:45.180 Yeah, it was Trump's unpredictability that I think deterred both Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping.
00:36:52.060 You know, we have what is close to a real life experiment.
00:36:55.300 Russia invaded Ukraine, took Crimea in 2014 during the Obama administration.
00:37:03.500 Nothing like that occurred during the Trump years.
00:37:07.000 And then, of course, we have the February invasion this year under Biden.
00:37:11.180 So clearly, you know, whatever it was, it certainly worked.
00:37:16.160 And Trump kept the peace.
00:37:18.420 And I think there are a lot of reasons for that.
00:37:20.200 But essentially, I think Putin and Xi were just afraid of Trump.
00:37:25.300 I think there were.
00:37:26.860 Gordon, I learned so much from you.
00:37:28.160 And forgive me for throwing all my homemade theories at you.
00:37:32.000 I'm just so interested in these subjects.
00:37:34.660 And I don't know how it's going to go.
00:37:37.120 I'm a little bit worried.
00:37:38.020 I mean, for heaven's sakes, Putin's actually talking about nuclear weapons.
00:37:41.820 And I think we should be afraid of that.
00:37:44.480 I don't know if he means it.
00:37:45.960 But we'll keep following you.
00:37:47.760 I enjoy following you on Twitter at Gordon G. Chang.
00:37:51.280 And I certainly encourage all our viewers to do so.
00:37:53.620 Thanks for your valuable time, my friend.
00:37:56.020 Oh, thank you so much, Ezra.
00:37:57.500 I really appreciated it.
00:37:58.800 Right on.
00:37:59.180 It's our pleasure.
00:38:00.000 There you have it.
00:38:00.480 Gordon Chang.
00:38:01.020 What a pleasure to see him again.
00:38:02.700 Stay with us.
00:38:03.320 More ahead.
00:38:03.660 Hey, welcome back.
00:38:16.800 Your feedback on my interview with Manny Montenegreno.
00:38:19.780 Teachering says, I am certain that Prime Minister Giorgia Maloney is not losing sleep over Trudeau's
00:38:26.400 snub.
00:38:26.960 She is more than likely aware of this guy and what he's all about.
00:38:30.540 Yeah, I don't think that Canada is top of mind for Giorgia Maloney.
00:38:33.980 I don't think Trudeau is top of mind.
00:38:35.740 I think she is battling real problems in Italy, economic problems.
00:38:39.840 Manny described some of those.
00:38:40.960 And I think she's battling problems within the European Union.
00:38:43.960 I mean, she has a lot to say about Emmanuel Macron.
00:38:45.680 I'm sure she has a lot to say about Germany, maybe on Russia.
00:38:51.240 But I really don't think that Trudeau is on the top of her mind.
00:38:54.740 But Trudeau is obviously obsessed with her.
00:38:58.080 On Sheila's monologue about the CBC, here's a letter from Kelly Abrams, who says,
00:39:02.520 Pierre better completely defund them when he becomes prime minister at all his rallies.
00:39:07.360 That is what he's promised.
00:39:08.900 And it got the biggest cheers.
00:39:10.600 Zero dollars.
00:39:11.480 If he does not, then that will be a disappointment.
00:39:13.700 Well, disappointment is one thing, but they're actually more dedicated as his enemy than even
00:39:20.100 the Liberal Party of Canada is.
00:39:21.840 So I think it's not just keeping his principle.
00:39:24.380 I think it's self-preservation that he must defund them.
00:39:29.200 On Sheila's interview with Robbie Picard of Oil Sand Strong, Spielman says,
00:39:36.220 even in the post-apocalyptic world of Mad Max, oil was the commodity most needed.
00:39:40.660 Hey, that's a great point.
00:39:41.780 I mean, nothing has done more than to lift humanity up out of drudgery and out of poverty
00:39:47.960 and into prosperity and comfort than fossil fuels.
00:39:51.560 Nothing has.
00:39:53.140 And it's linked to so many other metrics in life, to health, to longevity, to, you know,
00:39:59.680 infant mortality, to survive in cold weather or hot weather, to build.
00:40:04.680 I mean, there's nothing that is more correlated to human success than energy.
00:40:10.980 And that energy comes from fossil fuels.
00:40:13.420 That's our show for today.
00:40:14.880 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:40:18.260 good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:40:20.420 David Menzies for Rebel News here in Richmond Hill, Ontario.
00:40:24.840 And a massive protest is taking place right now on Yonge Street between 16th Avenue and Major McKenzie.
00:40:33.460 It's actually being closed to traffic.
00:40:35.260 That's how big it is.
00:40:36.100 Thousands of people are here.
00:40:37.240 And the reason is much like the reason for protests erupting in Iran and all over the world.
00:40:45.020 Late last month, Masha Amini, a 22-year-old Iranian woman, died in police custody very mysteriously.
00:40:54.980 Why was she arrested, you ask?
00:40:56.360 Well, the morality police arrested her because she wasn't wearing her hijab properly.
00:41:02.240 Can you imagine?
00:41:03.160 So the protest has spread to all of Iran's 31 provinces, to cities around the world.
00:41:10.260 And here we are in Richmond Hill where there are literally thousands of people taking to the street.
00:41:15.740 And I've got to tell you, folks, two questions spring to mind.
00:41:19.580 One is, what can Canada and other Western democracies do to help the Iranian people right now,
00:41:27.400 especially since thousands have been arrested, dozens have been killed while demonstrating?
00:41:33.960 And secondly, isn't it funny?
00:41:36.900 Maybe he's here, but I don't think he is.
00:41:39.580 The liberal MP for this writing, the writing of Richmond Hill, that would be Majid Johari.
00:41:45.560 I don't think he'll dare show his face today, much like he didn't dare show his face at the vigil two years ago
00:41:53.060 when the Ukrainian Airlines plane was shot down.
00:41:56.700 That's because, if you can imagine, folks, Majid Johari actually supports this regime.
00:42:04.900 Yes, a Canadian member of parliament is an ally of the biggest state sponsor of terrorism in the world,
00:42:13.500 and it even terrorizes its own people.
00:42:16.340 In any event, let's wade into the crowd and see what these folks have to say.
00:42:20.180 The Islamic Republic is not Iran.
00:42:23.880 I think most people here, virtually everybody, would agree with that.
00:42:27.800 I guess there's a lot of people experiencing buyer's remorse from the 1979 revolution.
00:42:33.380 Yeah, I agree with that, and that's why we're all here,
00:42:36.980 and we're supporting the people and our people and their voice in here.
00:42:42.020 And, you know, it's such a shame what happened to Ms. Amini.
00:42:47.240 She was arrested by the morality police, died for not allegedly wearing her hijab properly.
00:42:54.120 How can this force be called the morality police?
00:42:57.660 That seems to be the most immoral thing possible, killing someone for not wearing clothing properly.
00:43:03.460 That is just shameful, and this is not right.
00:43:06.560 These protests have spread to all 31 of Iran's provinces.
00:43:12.240 They've spread to major cities around the world.
00:43:14.060 Here we are in Richmond Hill, thousands of people.
00:43:17.080 Here's the big question, though.
00:43:18.920 In terms of tangible change in Iran, what would you like to see countries like Canada do to help the Iranian people?
00:43:27.120 Sure. The main thing that we want to get across is getting the IRGC as a terrorist organization.
00:43:32.700 They have a lot of family here.
00:43:34.120 There's going to be people here that you don't know.
00:43:35.980 They're associated with the regime back home, but they are.
00:43:38.800 They're going to be taking pictures of everyone, trying to catch them back home, putting them in prison.
00:43:42.840 So that's something we want to put a stop to.
00:43:44.480 They own a property in Bridal Path.
00:43:46.360 They own multiple businesses all around the GTA.
00:43:48.900 We want to put a stop to that.
00:43:50.340 Vancouver, all across Canada.
00:43:51.800 We want to put a stop to that.
00:43:52.900 Be our voice and support us.
00:43:54.740 Now it's the time for the regime to go.
00:43:57.740 Now we're looking for the revolution.
00:43:59.620 We're here.
00:44:00.300 We're looking for the revolution.
00:44:01.480 We want revolution.
00:44:02.780 Be our voice.
00:44:03.520 Now it's the time.
00:44:04.840 Please, now it's the time.
00:44:06.160 Be our voice.
00:44:07.340 First of all, I think Canada can do whatever the states did before.
00:44:12.000 Here is a country that the Iranian government uses as a money-laundry country.
00:44:21.580 Okay?
00:44:22.540 And for example, the military system uses this country as a backyard.
00:44:31.740 Okay?
00:44:33.100 To send the family, the money, everything to Canada, but they stay in Iran.
00:44:37.980 Well, sanctions are first, but support them.
00:44:41.440 Be there and be their voice.
00:44:43.580 They need to hear that the world is with them because they're running towards bullets.
00:44:50.500 So they need all the support they can get.
00:44:53.380 You know, certain people, they're not backing up the population of Iran, the actual Persians,
00:45:00.340 and that's, you know, that's not really good.
00:45:02.940 But, you know, we all stand up together.
00:45:05.280 We call it out.
00:45:06.280 Make sure you guys know about Mahsa Amini.
00:45:08.120 She was 22 years old who lost her life, got murdered by morality police in Iran,
00:45:12.720 and we're here for the freedom.
00:45:15.000 Hopefully, this revolution will happen, and everything will change that country.
00:45:18.840 Support the people, support the people, announce this dictatorship, must come to an end.
00:45:24.860 Hello, my friend.
00:45:26.100 I'm just reading your sign.
00:45:27.340 We stand with the brave woman of Iran.
00:45:29.740 What do you think our government should do to help the people of Iran right now?
00:45:35.160 Just guns.
00:45:36.200 Pardon me?
00:45:36.740 Just guns.
00:45:37.640 Just guns?
00:45:38.260 Yeah.
00:45:38.760 Okay, then.
00:45:39.780 Just guns.
00:45:40.880 Hey, do you think that's going to happen, folks?
00:45:43.620 Justin Trudeau is managing the biggest gun grab in Canadian history.
00:45:47.680 Then again, there's going to be a lot of inventory.
00:45:51.600 Maybe those firearms should be sent to the people in the streets of Tehran,
00:45:56.680 but I don't think this prime minister has the intestinal fortitude to do that.
00:46:03.160 And how do you feel about the fact that the liberal MP for this riding of Richmond Hill,
00:46:08.300 Majid Johari, he's actually a supporter of the regime?
00:46:12.920 I don't think you're going to have a voice with that.
00:46:15.020 I mean, how is it possible that someone in a Western democracy would support the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism?
00:46:23.420 I don't know why he's here, and he should not even be living here, and this is very shameful.
00:46:30.940 And I feel very sorry that he's... I don't even feel sorry that he's not here.
00:46:35.700 And he should be very shameful of himself.
00:46:38.700 He should be very shameful.
00:46:40.620 He probably doesn't dare show his face at this protest.
00:46:43.520 Yeah, because nobody's accepting her, and we don't want him, and we don't want him in Parliament.
00:46:49.760 We don't want him anymore.
00:46:51.120 He should leave.
00:46:52.100 Well, hopefully there'll be regime change in Iran and in Canada.
00:46:55.920 I hope so, too.
00:46:56.860 Be our voice, please.
00:46:57.880 Women, life, freedom.
00:46:59.080 Jin, Jiyan, Azadi.
00:47:01.280 This is Farzee.
00:47:02.120 I don't understand it.
00:47:02.980 I know who he is, Majid Johari.
00:47:04.840 Yes.
00:47:05.220 Is he here today?
00:47:06.620 No.
00:47:07.480 What do you think that is?
00:47:08.360 No one sees him.
00:47:09.520 Yeah, no one sees him.
00:47:11.140 And he's not here because he actually supports the regime, doesn't he?
00:47:16.040 Yeah, yeah.
00:47:16.700 He supports the regime.
00:47:18.580 Unbelievable.
00:47:19.480 He supports the regime.
00:47:20.760 He's liberal.
00:47:22.100 Well, folks, what a sight this is.
00:47:23.780 This is indeed the hill in Richmond Hill, the hill leading up to Major McKenzie here on Yonge Street.
00:47:30.760 And in the 24 years I've lived in this city, I have never seen a demonstration of this size.
00:47:37.500 Literally, the hill is alive with the sound of protests.
00:47:42.680 But the thing is, that's the big question, isn't it?
00:47:45.680 In the days and weeks to come, will we see anything tangible happen in the Islamic Republic of Iran?
00:47:52.760 Will there indeed be regime change, or will the mullahs there brutally snuff out this protest that is occurring with their own people?
00:48:04.040 And secondly, unfortunately, we really can't expect the Justin Trudeau liberals to stand up to the regime.
00:48:12.340 Sure, they'll throw a few sanctions here and there.
00:48:14.360 But they turn a blind eye to the agents that are here.
00:48:18.100 They turn a blind eye to the money laundering.
00:48:20.340 They turn a blind eye to members of the regime coming into Canada who literally have blood on their hands.
00:48:27.300 And look at the MP for the federal writing of Richmond Hill, Majid Johari, an ally to the mullahs in Iran.
00:48:35.700 Can you imagine?
00:48:36.520 It just goes to show, I think, with friends like Majid Johari, who needs enemies.
00:48:44.140 For Rebel News, I'm David the Menzoid Menzies.