In this episode, Ezra talks about TikTok, Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau, and a new code word for doctor-assisted suicide: assisted dying. Plus, an interview with Barbara Kay about medical assistance in dying.
00:01:38.520Hey, I want to give you a monologue about a few things. But before I do, I really want to invite
00:01:43.980you to stick around for my feature-length interview with Barbara Kay about medical assistance
00:01:50.400in dying. Very powerful conversation. I just recorded with her. That's going to be in about
00:01:56.64015 minutes when I'm done my monologue. So please, please stick around for that. But first, I want
00:02:01.080to talk to you about yesterday. The CEO of TikTok, the social media app, was grilled by U.S.
00:02:07.040lawmakers on Capitol Hill. I think he should be grilled. TikTok is a Chinese-owned company,
00:02:13.620and China has laws that clearly state every single tech company in China must give unfettered
00:02:21.180backdoor access to their entire systems to the Chinese security state. As in, anything TikTok
00:02:27.780knows, the Chinese secret police and military know. They don't need to ask. They don't need to go to
00:02:33.340court to get a search warrant. It's China. It's a dictatorship. They just take it. It's not a
00:02:38.220secret that they do this. You might say, well, what does TikTok know about its users that is so
00:02:44.520damaging to U.S. or Canadian national security? I mean, half of TikTok is silly video trends. I mean,
00:02:50.780tell me this isn't funny and a bit gripping and a bit tempting to try doing it yourself.
00:02:57.600I thought that was fun. That's the bait. That's the fun sing-along videos. That's the
00:03:13.780fun video filters, like the one that I don't know how to do it, makes you look like you're 30 years
00:03:18.820younger. That's me trying it out. It sort of looks like me 30 years ago. Not really, but still,
00:03:24.280it's fun. I mean, come on. How much fun is this doing a duet, singing in harmony with the cat?
00:03:30.900But the worrying part is that the app is in your phone and it has access to everything. You give
00:03:53.820it access to everything on your phone, your friends list, your photos, your videos, your GPS location.
00:04:00.080It asks you. You click yes. Over 100 million Americans have. Here's an excerpt from their
00:04:05.880privacy policy. I went online to look it up. Who do we share your information with? We share your
00:04:10.500data with third-party service providers who help us to deliver the platform, such as cloud storage
00:04:15.640providers. We also share your information with business partners, other companies in the same
00:04:20.340group as TikTok. Okay, that means everything's Chinese. Content moderation services, measurement
00:04:26.940providers, advertisers, and analytics providers. Where and when required by law, we will share your
00:04:32.060information with law enforcement agencies or regulators, China, and with third parties pursuant
00:04:36.840to a legally binding court order. It's a gentle way of saying they share it with anyone they want to
00:04:41.360share with, including the Chinese government. Look at this paragraph in their terms.
00:04:46.240Use your content and behavioral information. We process the content you generate and view on the
00:04:51.060platform, including preferences you set, such as choice of language, photographs, audios, and videos.
00:04:56.940Or create comments and live streams you make. Use your content. We collect user content through
00:05:02.960preloading at the time of creation, import or upload, regardless of whether you choose to save or
00:05:08.120upload that user content in order to recommend audio options and provide other personalized recommendations.
00:05:14.540So even if you don't publish it, they get it. We may collect information about the images and audio
00:05:19.940that are a part of your user content, such as identifying the objects and scenery that appear,
00:05:25.480the existence and location within an image of face and body features and attributes,
00:05:31.500the nature of the audio, the text of the words spoken in your user. They're recording everything
00:05:37.400about you and the room you're in and every word you say. We may access content, including text,
00:05:44.300images, and video found in your device's clipboard or with your permission. It goes in. So if you
00:05:49.500copy and paste something in an email app, they got it. You give them everything forever for free for
00:05:56.320them to do whatever they like. I mean, it's bad. Sure, but is it as bad as having an accused
00:06:02.100Chinese agent sitting in your parliament as part of the government? Take a look at this.
00:06:08.500In February of 2021, Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor had been detained in a Chinese prison
00:06:14.120for nearly 800 days. But while they languished away, Ontario Liberal MP Han Dong allegedly advised
00:06:21.400a top Chinese diplomat to hold off on immediately freeing them. Two independent national security
00:06:27.260sources have told Global News that Dong spoke with China's Consular General in Toronto, Han Tao,
00:06:33.100and suggested to him that if Beijing released the two Michaels, then federal Conservatives would
00:06:38.920benefit. How exactly is not clear. Dong allegedly initiated the discussion with the Consul General,
00:06:45.860where he also allegedly recommended that Beijing offer some show of progress with the two Michaels
00:06:50.820cases to help benefit the Liberals, according to the two sources. Dong confirmed to Global News that
00:06:57.300the conversation took place, but he denied he initiated the discussion and says that he advocated for the
00:07:02.620two Michaels to be set free. At every opportunity before they returned home, I adamantly demanded
00:07:08.400their release to Canada without delay, said Dong. Any suggestions otherwise are false and are attempts
00:07:14.220to mislead you, your readers, and slander me. The two Michaels had been jailed in apparent retribution
00:07:20.280for Canada's detention of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou. But at the time of Dong's conversation with the
00:07:26.240Chinese diplomat, the Prime Minister had publicly been calling for their release.
00:07:30.300This is an issue that is a top priority. Truro's office says the Prime Minister only learned of
00:07:35.440the conversation with the Chinese envoy after Dong told PMO. But Dong only informed the Prime Minister's
00:07:41.200team after Global News reached out for comment. As a Chinese Canadian, I am so proud. A national
00:07:47.240security official told Global News that by the time the alleged conversation in February 2021 took place,
00:07:53.700CSIS had already classified Dong as a close friend of the consulate based on his history of calls.
00:07:59.180But they had also considered if Dong was acting as a back channel interlocutor between the Canadian
00:08:04.420and Chinese governments. The PMO denied that theory, saying at no time was Mr. Dong ever used as a
00:08:11.160back channel. Global News has not been able to independently verify what was said in the
00:08:15.340communication between Dong and the Consul General. That's just a blockbuster. They would have lawyered that
00:08:20.400article, that video very carefully. Here's Han Dong's response.
00:08:24.980I rise on the point of order. I have informed the Prime Minister and the leadership of the
00:08:30.220Liberal Party Caucus that I will be sitting as an independent at the conclusion of these remarks.
00:08:36.660Mr. Speaker, I am in your hands as to what happens next.
00:08:40.660To all my colleagues in the Parliament, media reports today quoted unverified and anonymous sources have
00:08:48.640attacked my reputation and called into question my loyalty to Canada.
00:08:54.280Let me be clear. What has been reported is false, and I will defend myself against these absolutely
00:09:06.320untrue claims. But let me assure you, as a Parliamentarian and as a person, I have never and I will never and would never
00:09:20.100advocate or support the violation of the basic human rights of any Canadian, of anyone, anywhere, period.
00:09:32.320The accusations are false. My family came to Canada for freedom. I have had the privilege of being elected to this House, and I believe I have served honourably and pledged to continue to serve honourably and fulfill my oath of office.
00:09:51.320I will continue to serve the residents of Daumali North as an independent member of this House.
00:09:58.320I am taking this extraordinary step because to sit in the Government Caucus is a privilege, and my presence there may be seen by some as a conflict of duty.
00:10:13.320And the wrong place to be, and the wrong place to be as an independent investigation pursues the facts in this matter.
00:10:22.320I will be sitting as an independent so that business of government and indeed the business of Parliament is not interrupted as I work to clear my name and the truth is presented to Parliament and to Canadian people.
00:10:38.320I am a proud Liberal, and I am proud of the work our government does day in and day out to serve the people of Canada.
00:10:51.320I also do not want to distract from that important work.
00:10:56.320Before concluding, I want to assure Mr. Michael Spavart and Mr. Michael Culvert and their families that I did nothing to cause them any harm.
00:11:11.320Like everyone in this House, I worked hard and advocated for their interests as a Parliamentarian.
00:11:19.320The allegations made against me are as false as the ones made against you.
00:11:26.320To my constituents, I will continue to work on your behalf as your Member of Parliament.
00:11:33.320To my staff, I thank you. I know the days ahead will be difficult, but I will be there to support you as we continue to serve the people of Dalmati North.
00:11:45.320To my family, and in particular, my parents, who brought us here to Canada.
00:11:52.320To my wife, Sophie, and my kids, I love you. I thank you for all the support and love you gave me.
00:12:09.320The truth will protect us. Our owner and our family will get through this together.
00:12:26.320He was accused of working with the Chinese dictatorship advising them to keep the two Michaels in prison longer, and they applauded him.
00:12:32.320They applauded him. That was last night. Here's today's news in the Globe and Mail.
00:12:37.320Well, Trudeau government decided CSIS transcript of MP Handong provided no actionable evidence.
00:12:43.320Oh, really? The Trudeau government determined that there was no actionable evidence after it received a CSIS transcript of an early 2021 conversation
00:12:52.320between liberal MP Handong and China's top diplomat in Toronto, according to a senior government source,
00:12:58.320saying conclusions could not be drawn that Mr. Dong asked Beijing to keep two Canadians in prison for political reasons.
00:13:05.320What was he doing reporting to Beijing at all? What was he doing? He's not foreign minister.
00:13:11.320I mean, TikTok is awful, and don't think Facebook and YouTube are any better.
00:13:15.320We know from what Twitter has disclosed under Elon Musk that they were the same.
00:13:19.320Twitter was basically in the service of the CIA and FBI.
00:13:22.320So, of course, TikTok is in the service of China's People Liberation Army.
00:13:26.320I mean, I don't mind the idea of banning TikTok, really.
00:13:28.320It's malware. It's spyware. It feels like a toy, a game, a hobby, whatever.
00:13:32.320It feels like an entertainment, but it's actually an espionage tool, just like DJI drones.
00:13:36.320You know all those drones that people fly around?
00:13:38.320Almost every single drone sold in Canada and America are Chinese-made,
00:13:42.320and all of their data goes through their servers back in China.
00:13:47.320I would say that every single square inch of America by now is mapped in high-definition video
00:13:53.320by Americans using drones for fun, and that's all in China's hands right now.
00:13:57.320And 100 million humans and all their social connections and everything in their houses and their rooms,
00:16:10.320I haven't observed anything in terms of there's not things I don't do now that I did before, whether it's physical or mental or anything else.
00:16:59.320I haven't observed anything in terms of there's not things I don't do now that I did before, whether it's physical or mental or anything else.
00:17:07.320That was my excuse for showing you a bunch of cat videos and bird videos because those mental acuity parodies of Joe Biden are almost worth letting the communist spy on your phone.
00:17:17.320Whatever conservatives are in power, Donald Trump or Stephen Harper, the media party and the left tells us they're warmongers.
00:17:28.320Obviously, Harper had stronger relations with almost every country in the world at the end of his term than at the beginning.
00:17:33.320He improved Canada's standing in the world, maybe with the exception of Russia.
00:17:37.320Trump brought peace to the Middle East, peace to the Korean Peninsula.
00:17:41.320Russia, which invaded Ukraine both before and after Trump, didn't dare do it when he was in office.
00:17:47.320Harper didn't have such military power, but he had some respect from world leaders.
00:17:50.320Even Barack Obama, who disagreed with Harper on most things, agreed to exempt Canadians from his Buy American trade rules, agreed to a software lumber deal.
00:18:00.320Obama didn't approve Keystone XL, but at least he didn't kill it until Trudeau took office.
00:18:06.320It's true that Trudeau opened our borders to take every fake refugee in America, but it's also true that the Democrats are bussing their illegal migrants up here that's easier than them deporting them.
00:18:17.320Speaking of which, did you see our new trailer for our undercover video from Roxham Road?
00:21:09.320And today, I want to outline some of the key pieces of this Build Back Better agenda and what's it going to do for the people of Illinois and the people of the United States.
00:21:17.320To meet the challenges of today, we can't just build back the way things were before.
00:24:05.320There is a risk assessment process done for trans women that takes account of the nature of the crime.
00:24:12.320Clearly, significant concern arises out of sexual crime and whether it's appropriate for them to be in a female prison or a male prison.
00:24:20.320Well, I think that goes to show that if you are a politician and cannot bring yourself to say that a woman is an adult human female, then you are in trouble.
00:24:29.320But these dozen or more conservative candidates in Canada felt the opposite.
00:24:34.320They felt they dare not say that a woman was an adult human female or they would be destroyed by some cancel culture mob.
00:24:45.320I think the case of the Scottish First Minister being ousted was a rare example of that compared to the ubiquitous examples of transphobia being the cause of so many political demise.
00:24:59.320But I think the point that the panelist of the Manning Center was trying to make to me and to the crowd rather was to show some courage, people.
00:25:09.320And understand that real life is not like Twitter and real life is not like Parliament where where I mean Trudeau famously said, we don't say humankind.
00:25:22.320Well, I always admire when people, especially people with something to lose, take a stand for common sense because it's not very common these days.
00:25:32.320I think of J.K. Rowling, the great author behind the Harry Potter series, a billionaire, a self-made woman in so many ways.
00:25:38.320And if they try and go for her, well, then surely they can go for you.
00:25:41.320So when I see people standing up, for example, when we interviewed the power lifter, April Hutchinson last week, she has a lot to lose her competitive career, her reputation.
00:25:56.320One Canadian who takes a stand so often, she's almost the evil Knievel of daredevils in terms of living freely in this unfree age.
00:26:06.320One of my favorite people, a great writer and someone who, at least for now, thank God, has a platform where she reaches millions of people, not just in the National Post, but also in Epoch Times and other outlets.
00:26:19.320I'm talking about my friend Barbara Kay, who joins us now via Skype from Montreal.
00:26:23.320Barbara, it's such a pleasure to have you back.
00:26:25.320You are, Evel Knievel is the wrong analogy, because that's a daredevil who did deliberately, I would say, reckless things.
00:26:32.320You are very thoughtful about your decision to speak plainly.
00:26:36.320And what you do shouldn't be odd or crazy.
00:26:42.320You talk about the things that other people are just afraid to talk about.
00:26:46.320Yeah, many people say you're courageous, but I myself do not feel that I am particularly courageous.
00:26:53.320And I obviously am able to phrase what I want to say in ways that my newspapers, the National Post and the Epoch Times are comfortable with what I have to say.
00:27:06.320And I think it's because I speak in not only with common sense, but everything that I say, everything that I allege is evidence based and it's rational.
00:27:18.320So, so far, I've been lucky, but I will continue as long as I'm able to speak common sense.
00:27:26.320Otherwise, as Solzhenitsyn says, live not by lies.
00:27:31.320Life doesn't seem to be very much worth living if you can't say, speak what is an obvious truth to others.
00:27:39.320I quote Solzhenitsyn more often than I ever used to because I remember during the pandemic, during the lockdowns, during the civil liberties bonfire, during the vaccine passports, during the brutality.
00:27:53.320And there was brutality, people being forced out of their jobs.
00:27:56.320The prime minister saying, should we even tolerate these people?
00:27:59.320It was easy for me to fight in a way, Barbara, because who's going to fire me?
00:28:02.320I work for myself and I'm at my own workplace and I'm not going to impose rules on people.
00:28:45.320And that micro step is actually more than most people did.
00:28:50.320And I think of that again when I think of April Hutchinson, who just simply went to her competition and refused at the last moment to compete with the male to female transgender.
00:29:48.320People have been waiting for this for some time, and up until very recently, and up until the announcement came, I think a lot of athletes were not expecting them to go that far.
00:29:59.320They were not expecting them to make a distinction between biological males who identify as female and athletes with DSD, which is differences of sexual development.
00:30:12.320And that is athletes that present as, or who have been raised as female, but that actually have a condition that they don't have external genitalia.
00:30:23.320Anyways, long explanation, but the point is that a lot of the time they're lumped together, but it's two different situations.
00:30:32.320So I'm glad that they separated them out.
00:30:34.320And what they have said is, biological males who have had the post-puberty advantage, who have gone through puberty, will not be allowed to compete in the female division.
00:30:46.320So that means that, say, Athletics Canada can decide, well, we're not going to change our domestic policy.
00:30:55.320We're going to allow our athletes to self-identify into males, into female category.
00:31:01.320We're going to maintain that position.
00:31:04.320But then, of course, that puts them in a bad place, because if those people then want to go on to international competitions, they can't.
00:31:12.320So they're not going to, if Athletics Canada does not follow through with the same policy here, they're going to have the athletes mad at them, and they're going to have activists mad at them, because they're not going to satisfy anybody.
00:31:32.320If athletes are looking for a pathway to the Olympics or to any other international world championship or whatever, they know now, or female athletes know, that they can be sure that at least when they get to those international events, they will be competing only against other women.
00:31:54.320It's a real shot in the arm for athletes who have been very discouraged by the, you know, the ongoing, you know, this commitment to self-identification, which has spread like wildfire through the sporting world.
00:32:11.320So it looks like it looks like it looks like some sanity has returned in a very big way.
00:32:19.320I think I think we've reached a pivotal moment.
00:32:22.320And I think this could be the beginning of the end of the whole irrational movement that has allowed males to simply self-identify into female sport.
00:33:00.320And I don't know if this can hold because the power of censorship and compliance and conformity around transgenderism is greater than anything else I've ever seen on social media.
00:33:17.320These are these are phrases that didn't exist 10 years ago.
00:33:19.320Misgender is call a natural born man a man even after he says I'm a gal and dead naming is the name your mama gave you as opposed to your new name as a new gender.
00:33:29.320Those two things are now they will get you suspended or blocked on many social media platforms more than any other species of I don't know hate speech or whatever was being regulated in the past.
00:33:43.320It's just there's an extremeness to it.
00:33:46.320And I yeah, that's why I was stunned by the news because world athletics.
00:33:50.320I mean, there's nothing more political than the Olympics.
00:33:52.320There's nothing more politically correct than the Olympics.
00:33:54.320And this is really a feeder organization for the Olympics.
00:33:58.320And I I'm really afraid, Barbara, that something big, someone bigger than world athletics is going to come and smash them into into compliance, whether that's woke TV networks announcing we're not going to cover this cutting off their money or someone from the Olympics saying you better conform to our policies or we'll, you know, disconnect from you.
00:34:22.320I'm just worried that they are not so big that they can't be smashed back into compliance.
00:34:28.320Maybe that's just the pessimist inside.
00:34:32.320I I maybe I'm over optimistic here and maybe you're you could be very right because I just on Twitter the other day we got into a conversation about who are the biggest bullies you've ever seen.
00:34:42.320You know, and I I did tweet the other day, I'm 80 years old and I've seen a lot of bullies come and go in in political life.
00:34:50.320But I agree with you that the trans cultists, they are cultists, are the most vicious and relentless and determined and also very well organized, well funded.
00:35:05.320I've never seen a movement like this in my entire life.
00:35:08.320And so I can't say you're wrong, Ezra.
00:35:10.320I I'm looking to be optimistic because I want to I want to believe that that reason is coming back to sport.
00:35:19.320But, you know, I listen to you and I say, well, you know, Ezra is very plugged into the world.
00:35:26.320I just I'm used to losing, not because I'm necessarily a loser, but but because I I know the odds, the odds against it.
00:35:37.320Hey, listen, speaking of movements and bullies, I want to refer to an article you wrote about a week ago in the National Post.
00:35:45.320The headline is thanks to Trudeau, Canada's death care system is top of the line.
00:35:52.320And it's just absolutely incredible. Just before we turn the cameras on, I floated to you a statistic that I saw on on an American network that in Canada.
00:36:04.320One in 30 deaths is an assisted suicide.
00:36:10.320And I and as I ran that by you, I noticed you refer to stats in your article.
00:36:16.320Let me just quote one paragraph from your article back to you and then I'd love you to expand on it.
00:36:21.320California, as everybody knows, is the most one of the most progressive and woke jurisdictions in America.
00:36:39.320Consider that California, with the same population as Canada and universally regarded as a singularly progressive domain, legalized medically assisted death in 2016, just like Canada.
00:38:03.320Most people consider that it is there's nothing wrong with it at all.
00:38:08.320That, in fact, it's a blessing that so many people want to, you know, save the taxpayers money by not extending their life by artificial means and all the rest of it.
00:38:23.320And I I we are very much as it has been in the Netherlands for some time where people dying by euthanasia has been normalized for the last 20 years.
00:38:59.320And the next step in the in the wings is advanced requests and euthanization of minors who are in severe, you know, that have severe disabilities.
00:39:14.320So there's I mean, in in the Netherlands, there's a tired of life bill that is, I think, passed or going to pass soon.
00:39:25.320There's no end to the slope because people that are fascinated with, you know, death by choice and death when you want it, who think it's wonderful.
00:39:53.320And that'll be the answer for our aging population, which is becoming a serious.
00:39:58.320We have a broken health health care system and most of the people using it are older people.
00:40:03.320And this is instead of instead of fixing the health care system.
00:40:07.320So this is the federal government solution.
00:40:10.320Encourage people to choose made and to choose it more often and to choose it for less pressing reasons than it was originally designed for.
00:40:19.320And hey, presto, you're really going to, you know, I find it very troubling.
00:40:25.320And I think the people who are promoting and advocating it know that they're outside the norms of morality.
00:40:31.320I saw some guidance in Ontario from I think it was the College of Physicians and Surgeons.
00:40:38.320It was a proposal that doctors who commit medical assistance in dying, that they list on the death certificate not that they killed the person, but that the underlying condition that was causing the person distress be blamed for the death.
00:40:59.320So they're clearly alert to the fact that 10,000 killings a year by a profession whose ancient motto is do no harm.
00:41:09.320Yeah, that actually is in my column as well.
00:41:12.320The fact that the death certificate reads whatever diabetes or heart disease or whatever instead of they died from the drugs that were administered to them.
00:41:24.320So, yeah, I think it's evidence of a guilty mind, evidence of a guilty mind for sure when you, if it's something that this government seems very proud of themselves for being so liberal, so progressive, why obfuscate?
00:41:39.320Why deflect, you know, in the death certificate?
00:41:43.260Why not just say if there's nothing wrong with it?
00:41:45.980You know, Pope John Paul II, and I think all of Catholic faith, but that Pope in particular, they talked about the culture of life and fighting for the culture of life.
00:41:59.980You know, I know that, and I'm not talking about the abortion battle in particular, but, you know, the pro-choice side always says we're pro-choice, we're not pro-abortion.
00:42:12.980We're not actually advocating for the killing, we're just advocating for the right for the woman to make the decision.
00:45:30.980I honestly do think that a lot of it is, I think, yeah, I think some of the people, the activists, you know, this death with dignity and all these organizations that that's all they think about is how to make it easier to, yes, I agree that some of the activists are definitely there.
00:45:46.980For the government, I think a lot of it is about their unwillingness to put more money into palliative care, which is still unavailable to, I would say, the greater proportion of people that cannot access palliative care.
00:46:05.980I think it's only for cancer patients in bigger centers.
00:46:11.980Everybody should have access to palliative care and everybody who is disabled should have access to adequate services in their own home if possible.
00:46:23.980They should not be warehoused in these horrible conditions that you often that you discover when you start to do a little digging behind the scenes.
00:46:32.980So they don't want to spend more money on that.
00:46:34.980The more they can encourage people and then and then you've co-opted this word dignity.
00:46:39.980But in other words, if you're not in full physical capacity, if you don't have full control over your body or if your mind isn't quite that that you no longer have human dignity.
00:46:52.980And this idea that there's only human dignity when you are physically independent or physically and mentally independent, this is basically telling disabled people or mentally, you know, ill people, it's too bad you don't have human dignity.
00:47:08.980But there is something you can do about that.
00:47:10.980That's the subtle message behind this and this constant talking about dignity, dignity, as if dignity weren't inherent in in the in the human estate, no matter how, whether you're able or disabled or blind or not.
00:47:28.980Not this is this is a very insidious kind of messaging that comes out of this movement.
00:47:38.980And by the way, I I'd like to add that I'm not against people, adult people having the right to to kill themselves or to have assisted suicide.
00:47:51.980I just don't want the government doing it.
00:47:53.980I don't want Medicare system doing it.
00:48:14.980So this feels related in some ways to the to the pandemic and the lockdowns and the mandatory medical procedures where doctors are doing things that we learned in the Nuremberg trials.
00:48:26.980Doctors should not be doing doctors must be on the side of life, not death.
00:48:30.980And, you know, I was thinking about in ancient times how they really did sacrifice children, sacrifice virgins like these.
00:48:38.980These these ideas didn't come from nowhere.
00:48:42.980And when the Ten Commandments was brought down, it was it was limiting things like thou shalt not kill or thou shalt not murder is probably a more accurate translation.
00:50:44.980And surely if you treat an animal with some basic respect, maybe you'll treat a human with as much respect.
00:50:51.980The reason I'm talking about the Ten Commandments and the Noahide laws, and I'm sorry to do it to you, but I'm going to quote part of a poem by Rudyard Kipling called The Gods of the Copybook Headings.
00:51:03.980Because I'm not particularly religious.
00:51:06.980And I mean, there's there's different religious customs.
00:51:12.980But if we throw out everything, we go.
00:51:16.980Why did these religions and these customs and these these codes of morality and then that move from religious texts into general secular philosophy?
00:51:39.980This is a poem from Rudyard Kipling called Gods of the Copybook Headings.
00:51:44.980And if you don't know what a copybook heading was, when kids used to learn how to write, they would practice copying something that was written at the top of the page.
00:51:53.980It was a copybook and they would write it almost like writing lines.
00:55:44.980It's only sacred if it appeals to a certain band of people who identify life worth living as life that gives pleasure and satisfaction and that you are totally in control of.
00:56:04.980There's something very creepy about that kind of society because it puts a target on the back of the weak, the vulnerable, the very poor, the very old.
00:56:18.980You know, when you know that your society is basically has become a society that would prefer that you were dead.
00:56:26.980I think that's a terrible message to send to people like the person at the heart of my article, Roger Foley, who is disabled, but whose mind is sharp as a pack and who has, to me, as much dignity as anybody else just because he needs assistance for his physical needs.
00:56:45.980Does not make him less dignified and should not make anybody less dignified in the eyes of their fellow citizens.
00:58:02.980Talking about my interview with Dr. Malone.
00:58:04.980I thought that was a very interesting interview and hopefully you could pick it up despite the fact that there were some problems with his Skylink.
00:58:10.980Spielman says, imagine the son of a known eugenicist having such global control over everything and believing he's not malevolent.