Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Justin Trudeau is using the peaceful truckers' rebellion to crush our civil liberties

00:00:00.000 tonight justin trudeau uses the peaceful truckers rebellion as the pretext to crush

00:00:19.940 our civil liberties it's february 14th and this is the ezra levant show

00:00:24.260 why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer i know there's 8 500 customers

00:00:32.140 here and you won't give them an answer the only thing i have to say to the government

00:00:36.380 about why i publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so

00:00:40.320 after discussing with cabinet and caucus after consultation with premiers from all

00:00:53.320 provinces and territories after speaking with opposition leaders the federal government

00:01:00.140 has invoked the emergencies act to supplement provincial and territorial capacity to address

00:01:08.820 the blockades and occupations i've said before that the lockdowns have been the greatest violation of

00:01:16.420 civil liberties in canadian history and i stand by that but today they got even worse justin trudeau

00:01:23.060 introduced the emergencies act the successor to the war measures act here's trudeau

00:01:28.360 a couple hours ago the federal government has invoked the emergencies act to supplement

00:01:37.060 provincial and territorial capacity to address the blockades and occupations

00:01:43.240 trudeau trudeau left the worst details to christia freeland here she is talking about how

00:01:52.380 all crowdfunding will be subject to anti-terrorism laws and people who subsidize or crowdfund trudeau's

00:02:00.760 political opponents can face bank seizures of their money without a warrant or even a court order

00:02:07.740 take a listen to this as of today a bank or other financial service provider will be able to

00:02:16.320 immediately freeze or suspend an account without a court order in doing so they will be protected

00:02:25.860 against civil liability for actions taken in good faith federal government institutions will have a new

00:02:34.860 broad authority to share relevant information with banks and other financial service providers to ensure

00:02:43.600 that we can all work together to put a stop to the funding of these illegal blockades this is about

00:02:52.340 following the money this is about stopping the financing of these illegal blockades we are today serving notice if

00:03:03.860 if your truck is being used in these illegal blockades your corporate accounts will be frozen

00:03:12.240 the insurance on your vehicle will be suspended send your semi-trailers home the canadian economy needs

00:03:23.120 them to be doing legitimate work not to be illegally making us all poor david lametti the justice minister

00:03:33.820 that was brought in after jody wilson raybolt going from the most ethical to the least ethical justice

00:03:39.800 minister he says that the emergency powers will even allow trudeau to commandeer tow trucks that

00:03:47.480 had refused to tow the trucker convoys away and again to commandeer banks to seize funds from

00:03:54.960 political opponents here's lametti directing persons to render essential services to relieve impacts of blockades on

00:04:02.600 canada's economy and this could include tow trucks and their drivers for compensation of course

00:04:07.800 in short our civil liberties are being removed even though there is no genuine emergency in this country

00:04:17.120 justin trudeau comes by his hatred for civil liberties honestly you might recall that just over 50 years ago

00:04:25.380 his father pierre trudeau put the country under the war measures act at least then there was a true national emergency

00:04:33.400 the flq crisis flq stands for the front of liberation de quebec the quebec liberation front

00:04:39.540 it was a bona fide terrorist group that was murdering people kidnapping people setting off bombs in mailboxes

00:04:48.480 he put soldiers on the streets it was limited in time and scope it actually had some public support

00:04:55.900 there was an actual terrorist group but still trudeau took advantage and he crushed his political enemies

00:05:04.580 under that law trudeau senior was asked how far he would go to violate civil liberties and he gave this

00:05:11.400 famous answer there's a lot of bleeding hearts around who just don't like to see people with helmets and guns all i can say is

00:05:19.500 go on and bleed but it's more important to keep law and order in this society than to

00:05:23.960 be worried about weak-kneed people who don't like the looks of

00:05:29.460 at any cost at any cost how far would you go with that how far would you extend that

00:05:34.140 just watch me just watch me well we know what happened trudeau's opponents were arrested by the

00:05:40.900 hundred i'm not talking about terrorists i'm talking about political opponents hundreds of political

00:05:46.480 opponents were arrested and the rcmp went wild dirty tricks burning down barns owned by his political

00:05:55.960 opponents this time there is no terrorist group there are no murders or kidnappings or bombs

00:06:03.640 it's a completely peaceful protest trudeau said it's not peaceful here in our capital city

00:06:13.560 families and small businesses have been enduring illegal obstruction of their neighborhoods

00:06:19.320 occupying streets harassing people breaking the law this is not a peaceful protest but that's a lie

00:06:29.700 that all of us know are alive for two weeks we've all watched the protest it looks like a family

00:06:35.180 festival looks like a canada day party all there are is canadian flags moms dads and kids

00:06:40.680 perhaps the most hard to view thing was a couple of fellas in a hot tub on wellington street in ottawa

00:06:48.220 um there was a pretext uh that trudeau himself did not actually mention today um there were a few

00:06:57.980 shotguns found in a country farmhouse uh in coots uh they called that a violent cell the men were arrested

00:07:06.740 we'll have to wait and see what the facts are there but finding a few shotguns or rifles in a country

00:07:12.860 farmhouse uh is not a violent cell that's called rural alberta or for that matter rural anywhere

00:07:19.140 i i think that um it didn't take a lot to get the toronto ottawa media class on board they've been

00:07:27.880 personally upset uh by the truckers in their city they wailed about the horn honking they already

00:07:36.700 hate the truckers because they're not part of the establishment here's glenn mcgregor uh of ctv

00:07:44.200 pledging his loyalty to trudeau um it was so bizarre watching the media at uh trudeau's press

00:07:52.620 conference today they didn't ask any questions about civil liberties in fact the largest theme of

00:07:58.480 their questions was why they weren't cracking down harder we are going to hold the line

00:08:03.480 hold the line question for ms leach today in in kooks alborto the rcmp arrested 11 people

00:08:08.620 who were found having firearms ammunition body armor in their trailers at the blockade site

00:08:13.960 can you assure people in this community that none of the protesters who were here

00:08:17.400 have have firearms in their trucks or vehicles i don't believe they do

00:08:23.180 as we as we know it as we know it crime has gone down in this city since the truckers came so what

00:08:40.700 i'm not sure if we can trust the rcmp uh and i know those are hard words to hear but here's sydney

00:08:55.900 fizzard's report from yesterday in kooks alberta just shocking look what the rcmp is doing in the

00:09:01.960 name of the rule of law and look what they're admitting to

00:09:04.680 so they've cut this main battery cable yeah they cut this negative battery cable almost all the way

00:09:12.900 through they cut the cables on the solenoids these would be start solenoids and uh probably a

00:09:19.120 loop plug solenoids and then this control box they've cut all the wires in it

00:09:23.020 they took the fuel lines off they sprayed foam them shut yeah there's a filter missing over there

00:09:29.780 um and they've cut all the wires off the solenoids there yeah let's get ready

00:09:36.660 yeah and then on the other side here

00:09:41.060 yeah filters are missing and they're foamed shut

00:09:55.540 a few of the boys have brought out some equipment here and they've parked it on private land

00:10:07.760 with a permission from the owner to park it here rcmp um they had it parked in view of the

00:10:14.640 within view of the highway rcmp requested that it be moved out of view of the highway so we've

00:10:21.280 obliged them um after it was moved here somebody sabotaged the equipment there's uh wires cut

00:10:29.100 there's filters removed spray foam put up fuel lines like these things these all three machines

00:10:35.840 they're valuable machines um and it's going to take a lot of work to put them back into order

00:10:41.840 um i can't see that that happening like there's parts missing um parts have to be replaced there's

00:10:49.800 a lot of labor that's got to go into fixing these things before this these these fellas can use

00:10:53.820 their own equipment again hey there yep thank you uh so i can confirm that we disabled three looks

00:11:03.780 like three excavators yep um to prevent the equipment from being used in the illegal activity of the

00:11:10.080 blockade uh was there an expectation there as to how they were going to be used

00:11:14.080 uh i don't i'm not sure i've got the answer for you i'm not sure what other questions you might

00:11:20.280 have with relative to that i wasn't part of that uh that planning or the execution of that so i don't

00:11:27.560 think i can comment any further than that nope it's all good really appreciate that thank you so much

00:11:31.460 yep bye bye hi there it's corporal savinkov here uh hey there corporal uh this is uh sid calling

00:11:37.300 you again really quickly um if you have the time for a second absolutely yep uh so i just wanted to

00:11:42.400 confirm um exactly what the damage was done by the rcmp

00:11:46.740 the damage the disabling yeah yeah so we we can yep right i don't know i don't know what we did to

00:11:55.480 disable those vehicles okay but okay yeah sorry i i forgot to get that bit there uh last time but

00:12:00.640 you did confirm that it was you guys but um in terms of the specific damage you're unaware

00:12:05.140 yeah the specific uh steps that we took to disable those vehicles i don't i don't know okay all right

00:12:10.820 no appreciate that just wanted to reconfirm thank you all right take care bye bye even the rcmp though

00:12:16.780 says politicians are lying about the state of affairs jason kenney falsely accused uh the

00:12:23.980 protesters of attacking the rcmp the rcmp called him a liar i've also received reports uh in the last hour

00:12:32.120 of people allied with the protesters assaulting rcmp officers

00:12:38.080 unfortunately it was a relatively minor collision um but a confrontation which led to an assault took

00:12:46.060 place as a direct result of that collision and that was an assault on an rcmp officer

00:12:52.160 no that was an assault between the two two two civilians between a protester and a civilian

00:12:57.720 so jason kenney's statement was not true at the press release

00:13:01.440 i can tell you what i just told you sir okay so i come back to the question why is the emergency act

00:13:09.800 needed the ottawa horn honking if that is a crisis of national proportions um

00:13:17.960 you know it was handled by a court order a judge in ottawa said no use of air horns and the truckers

00:13:25.780 complied so that seemed to deal with the issue the ambassador bridge between windsor and detroit

00:13:33.060 it was cleared by local cops with not much ado um these arrests in southern alberta whether real or fake

00:13:41.200 were handled by police without the emergencies act why is the emergencies act needed

00:13:47.620 premiers across the country from quebec to alberta said they did not want the emergencies act

00:13:54.040 why this heavy-handed law on top of other abuses well that's the thing this emergencies act is not

00:14:03.060 needed to deal with a violent rebellion there is no violent rebellion it's to go after trudeau's

00:14:09.460 personal enemies to seize their bank accounts to turn peaceful political opponents into terrorists

00:14:18.600 and that's what he said will happen cannot and will not allow illegal and dangerous activities to

00:14:27.700 continue the emergencies act will also allow the government to make sure essential services are

00:14:34.760 rendered for example in order to tow vehicles blocking roads in addition financial institutions will be

00:14:43.900 authorized or directed to render essential services to help address the situation including by regulating

00:14:51.620 and prohibiting the use of property to fund or support illegal blockades and finally will enable the

00:15:00.900 rcmp to enforce municipal bylaws and provincial offenses where required this is what the emergencies act

00:15:11.160 does so let's recap the greatest violation of civil liberties in canadian history has been the

00:15:17.760 lockdowns when there's a peaceful rebellion really a hundred thousand protesters from coast to coast not

00:15:23.760 one act of violence have you ever heard of anything more peaceful in your life trudeau cracks down on it

00:15:29.060 by removing uh due process and targeting the finances of anyone who supports his critics he's introduced bill c11 and internet censorship law

00:15:41.060 is there a real threat to security in this country well let me read to you the definition of a threat to security this comes from the cesus act

00:15:52.800 which is the definition used in the emergencies act let me read it to you i'm going to just read a little bit

00:15:59.060 threats to the security of canada means a

00:16:02.740 espionage or sabotage that is against canada or is detrimental to the interests of canada or activities directed toward

00:16:09.980 or in support of such espionage or sabotage obviously we're not talking about espionage so it's not that

00:16:15.380 b foreign influenced activities within or relating to canada that are detrimental to the interests of

00:16:23.760 canada and are clandestine or deceptive or involve a threat to any person trudeau would probably say that

00:16:31.400 having some foreign uh citizens chip in a few bucks to the crowdfunding for the truckers meets this test but

00:16:37.840 that's clearly not what this uh law was designed for that some crowdfunding chipped in for the truckers

00:16:43.980 that's not a national emergency it's not a real threat c activities within or relating to canada

00:16:49.660 directed toward or in support of the threat or use of acts of serious violence against persons or

00:16:56.300 property for the purpose of achieving a political religious or ideological objective within canada or

00:17:02.380 a foreign state there's been no violence at all let alone serious violence and then the fourth

00:17:07.820 definition of a threat is activities directed towards undermining by covert unlawful

00:17:13.880 acts or directed toward or intended ultimately to lead to the destruction or overthrow by violence

00:17:21.880 of the constitutionally established system of government in canada that's a violent revolution

00:17:27.880 and look at this but it does not include lawful advocacy protest or dissent unless carried on in

00:17:33.960 conjunction with any of the activities referred to in paragraphs a to d so forgive me for getting into the

00:17:39.000 law there but those are the four definitions of a threat to canada none of those are met the truckers

00:17:46.920 have not gained engaged in serious violence they've engaged in no violence there is no violent revolution

00:17:54.440 there's no foreign espionage the only foreign element is some americans thought here's a few bucks for the

00:18:00.200 truckers but the money was not covert it was to help the truckers with gas money and food

00:18:05.400 food this is not about a true threat to canada it's not about a true true threat to safety it's about

00:18:15.240 trudeau using a pretext to go against any political opponent who uses crowdfunding or cryptocurrency well

00:18:24.520 who do you think he's thinking of when he talks about crowdfunding i think that this is a very dangerous

00:18:31.080 time for any critic of trudeau and you can imagine we're gonna fight this in any way we can if it and

00:18:37.800 we're gonna uh consult our lawyers to see what can be done in the face of this violation of civil liberties

00:18:43.800 i regret that little can be done because these extraordinary powers are there for the government

00:18:49.880 to use for a 30-day period i believe that it will be extended and i believe that trudeau's invasiveness

00:18:55.320 into the finances of this political critics will be extended and i don't have any confidence

00:19:00.200 in the federal conservative party to stand up to this i think that um they're still so shell-shocked

00:19:06.520 and they're still so obedient to the media party that i don't know if they'll stand up firmly

00:19:11.400 i think that this is in keeping with trudeau and his family i mean

00:19:17.160 justin trudeau has always said he admires authoritarian regimes he's never hidden that i mean you might

00:19:24.120 recall this unguarded moment that he is never recanted when he was asked a few years ago what country he

00:19:29.640 most admired she said china because it's a basic dictatorship he was asked which country he most

00:19:35.720 admired and referred to china there's a level of of uh admiration i actually have for china

00:19:43.160 um because their you know basic dictatorship is allowing them uh to actually turn their economy

00:19:51.160 around on a dime and say we need to go greenest fastest we need to start you know investing in solar

00:19:56.280 i mean there is a flexibility that that wasn't a one-off trudeau's brother alexandre made a propaganda

00:20:04.520 film produced by the dictatorship of iran his whole family loves castro and i'm not

00:20:13.000 getting into the theory that fidel castro is actually trudeau's dad i'm not getting into that i'm

00:20:17.800 saying um he's at the very least a father figure that the family admires and looks up to

00:20:24.440 pierre trudeau took his sons to the soviet union and said that siberia was the future of the world

00:20:31.640 and even to this day trudeau and christia freeland who serves on the board of the world economic forum

00:20:38.040 meet with george soros these are authoritarian people i think that this invocation of the emergencies act

00:20:45.560 is a kind of color revolution if you know what i mean by that a color revolution is the name given to

00:20:52.360 these revolutions typically in eastern europe financed by george soros to topple a regime that george

00:20:59.720 soros didn't like well here in canada trudeau and christia freeland and half the cabinet according to

00:21:06.840 claus schwab is part of the soros world economic forum that's not a theory or a conspiracy theory it's

00:21:13.480 just a fact bizarrely christia freeland sits as a governor on the world economic forum even while she

00:21:19.800 is um a deputy prime minister and finance minister i think that as this trucker rebellion spread

00:21:28.760 trudeau got into trouble and he pulled a color revolution against his own people it's very upside

00:21:35.640 down and it's still going to take me some time to chew over i'm recording this shortly after

00:21:40.360 trudeau made this announcement and of course he left the most abusive parts to christia freeland of

00:21:47.320 the world economic forum to say i'm worried about this i don't think that this emergencies act was

00:21:54.680 necessary for true law and order i think that trudeau's dark authoritarian side is showing looking at

00:22:02.680 the media questions there wasn't a single skeptical question other than why aren't you going harder

00:22:09.000 i think that every institution in this country failed that's why the truckers rebellion filled

00:22:15.960 the gap finally people were standing up people who were not compromised this is designed to smash that

00:22:23.320 but not as a public security threat it wasn't a public security threat this is designed to smash

00:22:29.640 anyone who dares to challenge trudeau and if you dared to chip in even ten dollars to the truckers fund that

00:22:37.880 you're going to be in trudeau's um social credit list as someone who's done something illegal i fear

00:22:44.840 that we are heading down the path of authoritarianism i'm going to need some more time to chew this over

00:22:50.280 and i'm sorry that my monologue tonight is a little bit not fully baked i still have to digest everything

00:22:57.480 that was said today i want to see what others say in response i want to see if there are any other

00:23:02.520 institutions in canada that are pushing back or if this is just the new normal i mean trudeau has

00:23:09.080 demoralized this country in many ways that he has colonized the media party through his bailouts

00:23:15.800 he has set up an echo chamber where um so-called anti-hate extremists claim that there are nazis

00:23:23.880 everywhere so then he uses that as a pretext to crack down on the nazis the irony is that trudeau

00:23:30.520 accuses everyone else of being a nazi but he's the one restricting our civil liberties i'm worried

00:23:36.840 for canada i think i'm more worried today than i ever have been obviously we're going to continue

00:23:42.200 doing what we do here at rebel news we tell the other side of the story we fight for freedom the

00:23:47.400 best way we know how often that takes the form of civil liberties lawyers i certainly hope that our

00:23:54.360 crowdfunding for civil liberties lawyers is not smashed by trudeau in his anti-terrorism efforts

00:24:04.200 i i would think that he wouldn't i mean crowdfunding civil liberties lawyers is a pretty

00:24:11.080 protected form of access to justice i would hope but when every other institution in this country has

00:24:17.480 fallen maybe that will go too i'm going to think about this some more and we'll talk about it all

00:24:23.560 week i'm sure and for many weeks to come i uh now i'm going to show you an interview i did with joel

00:24:29.880 pollack a few hours ago the interview i did was before trudeau rolled out his emergencies act details

00:24:37.800 so joel and i were speaking sort of speculatively we knew the emergency act was coming uh i suppose that

00:24:44.120 neither of us thought that trudeau would use it to basically go after the bank accounts of his

00:24:49.400 opponents so let me now show you the interview i had earlier today with joel which was done before

00:24:55.080 the details and then i'll talk to you on the other side with some final thoughts

00:25:08.280 joining me now is joel pollack senior editor at large at breitbart.com one of the first american

00:25:13.320 journalists to cover the story and really to introduce it to an international audience it's

00:25:18.120 become a huge story the trucker rebellion in the united states and indeed it's spread around the world

00:25:23.800 these images of a trucker convoy in israel are amazing israel one of the most jabbed countries

00:25:30.840 in the world joining us now via skype is joel joel how are you doing and thank you for for following

00:25:37.240 this story mostly american journalists they don't really find canada's source of interesting

00:25:42.520 commentary but you really have sunk your teeth into it well when american journalists have covered

00:25:48.280 the canadian trucker story they tend to have done so the way the canadian media have done so

00:25:54.280 in fact if you watch the white house press briefings over the last several days you would

00:25:59.160 have seen journalists pressing biden to oppose the canadian truckers and to use stronger language

00:26:05.320 against the canadian truckers very few journalists in our establishment media understand what this is

00:26:10.920 about or maybe they do understand that it is a rebellion of sorts against the elites who run our

00:26:17.560 countries and they being part of the elite don't particularly like it but washington dc is dropping

00:26:23.880 its vaccine mandate the latest blue domino to fall down here where california new york other states

00:26:30.920 illinois they're all dropping mandates because they are seeing the backlash and the canadian truckers are the

00:26:37.320 the most visible evidence of that so there's been a huge impact there's also going to be a continuing

00:26:43.000 impact on politics in this country regardless of what justin trudeau does because i was up in

00:26:48.760 northern california last week and there are conservatives talking about organizing trucking

00:26:54.760 convoys into march later in the spring these convoys are becoming a symbol that is going to transcend the

00:27:02.920 current crisis so no matter what trudeau does how the canadian issue is resolved this has become the

00:27:08.840 new tea party we are all truckers now in a sense and of course truckers were heroes two years ago in

00:27:15.240 the early days of the pandemic when people were worried that there wouldn't be enough food on the

00:27:18.280 shelves of grocery stores the supply chains were crucial in maintaining public calm in keeping people

00:27:24.920 connected and they were heroes i interviewed truckers on my radio show we have a lot of truckers in our

00:27:30.120 audience on sirius xm 125 but truckers are not just heroes during the pandemic you can't just

00:27:37.960 dump them when they're no longer useful to your political agenda which is what trudeau has done

00:27:42.520 a year ago trudeau was telling people that mandates would be extreme and divisive now he is pursuing them

00:27:47.960 in an extreme and divisive way and his party seems to be applauding every step of the way i i see that

00:27:55.160 there was a motion in the canadian parliament that went through where the liberals and the ndp joined

00:28:00.840 together to oppose a motion to support the ending or at least a strategy to end the coveted lockdowns

00:28:08.520 and mandates and so forth in this country democrats are now talking about supporting those kinds of

00:28:14.200 policies because they are fearful of the midterm elections and they see what the canadian truckers have

00:28:19.480 done and look they know that there's a huge number of swing votes they learned the hard way in november

00:28:27.640 when a trucker in new jersey knocked off the democratic state senate president trucker who spent about ten

00:28:33.640 thousand dollars of his own money to run for state senate so there is a serious sense of momentum behind

00:28:41.240 the truckers in this country starting to be inspired by what canadian truckers did and they've become

00:28:49.320 sort of a working class symbol of rebellion against the elites the elites are very worried in this country

00:28:54.520 and this is going to continue no matter how the present crisis is resolved in canada

00:28:59.160 well uh what i'm worried about is in canada this emergency act being deployed um it's been more

00:29:07.160 than 50 years since this law has been deployed in canada 52 years ago justin trudeau's father

00:29:13.800 brought in the war measures act but in that case there was actual separatist terrorism there were

00:29:19.160 murders and kidnappings and bombs and mailboxes it was the the flq the front deliberation de quebec

00:29:26.360 um here there's there's none of that there's been no acts of violence in two weeks with a hundred

00:29:33.000 thousand truckers last night rcmp in coots alberta arrested 11 people claiming there was a violent

00:29:43.080 cell now could be but i know that in rural alberta the idea that you have some long arms like some

00:29:49.400 shotguns and rifles in the house is not a sign of being a violent cell that's sort of what farms and

00:29:54.840 ranches are like there's no police station nearby you need them for pest control like a coyote or something

00:30:01.480 so i'm i i don't know if there really was a violent cell i think it may be that that was just a

00:30:08.680 pretext to bring in this kind of martial law and i note that trudeau calls anyone he doesn't like a

00:30:14.840 nazi yet he's removing civil liberties here's what i'm worried about joel is that the narrative that

00:30:20.360 the left has had in america about january 6th insurrectionists has been imported to canada it didn't

00:30:28.280 really fit the peaceful truckers but they're going to try and call these truckers domestic

00:30:34.920 violent extremists they're going to call them some sort of terrorists they're going to justify some

00:30:41.800 sort of domestic patriot act style surveillance and restriction of civil liberties for anyone who's a

00:30:48.280 conservative i'm really worried about that and i think that's in trudeau's blood i think that that's

00:30:54.360 what his father was like and what his own heroes from fidel castro to china are like

00:31:00.040 well i think you're right to be worried but i also think that no democratically elected leader

00:31:04.840 in a country with a reasonably free press can get away with using emergency powers to get rid of the

00:31:09.880 opposition and the difference between the canadian truckers in january 6th is that the protesters on

00:31:15.640 january 6th and the rioters who invaded the capital they were proceeding based on a speculative theory

00:31:22.280 that the election had been stolen and that it could somehow be reversed through sending it back to

00:31:28.920 the states if they disrupted a particular proceeding and so forth it was all speculation and not all of

00:31:34.120 it well founded to say it uh to put it mildly but in canada it's a very clear pretext there's a very

00:31:41.720 clear provocation which is the vaccine mandate for truckers and all trudeau would have to do to end the

00:31:48.120 quote unquote emergency is end the vaccine mandate we've seen other vaccine mandates other coronavirus

00:31:54.440 policies fall in other provinces ontario alberta other places and not necessarily to the full

00:32:00.520 satisfaction of the people involved but there's been some reaction and trudeau is refusing to do that

00:32:06.680 what he's telling canadians and i think liberal americans is that if you give into these tactics

00:32:12.760 then there's no limit it becomes a slippery slope these truckers these hooligans insurrectionists will

00:32:19.400 rise up every time there's something they don't like but that's a very hard sell if you're going to

00:32:23.720 use emergency powers more broadly i don't think he's going to get away with it and i think that let's go

00:32:30.520 there let's go to the the question of violence the reason that the canadian charter of freedoms allows for

00:32:37.400 peaceful assembly and so forth is that in countries that provide freedom of assembly and freedom of

00:32:42.120 speech freedom to protest and so forth you don't need violence to make your voice heard you don't

00:32:47.000 need to use acts of sabotage to to be listened to when you use emergency powers to crack down on what is

00:32:55.080 really a peaceful protest maybe not a lawful protest in every case but it's basically civil disobedience

00:33:00.840 when you use emergency powers to crack down on that you almost guarantee more violence there are going

00:33:05.160 to be a small group of people within whether the left or the right who see the imposition of

00:33:11.720 emergency powers as something that precludes ordinary political debate precludes freedom of

00:33:16.920 speech and assembly and they're going to take matters into their own hands that is the response

00:33:21.240 historically of people on the fringes but people nonetheless to the imposition of emergency powers

00:33:27.480 by government especially when large swaths of the population see those emergency powers as

00:33:31.640 illegitimate and i've seen polls that say that something like two-thirds of canadians

00:33:35.880 like the idea of using these sort of extraordinary powers to remove the truckers but at the same time

00:33:42.200 nearly half of canadians empathize with the cause of the truckers with the cause of the protest so

00:33:48.040 maybe people want this to be over with but the quickest way to end it would be for justin trudeau

00:33:52.280 to compromise in some way to stand down and to allow life to return to normal this pandemic is basically on

00:34:00.280 its way out if you look at the infection numbers in the united states they're plummeting just as the

00:34:04.360 omicron wave has risen and fallen in the rest of the world so maybe in the long run trudeau saves

00:34:10.440 face perhaps if he just does nothing and he allows the omicron wave to pass and then he says okay well

00:34:15.880 i'm removing the mandates because they're not necessary anymore we don't have the same degree of

00:34:20.280 a problem that we once did that to me seems the safer route he's going to provoke opposition

00:34:25.320 some of which will be vociferous and loud and more honking let's say from truckers and so forth

00:34:31.880 the problem is that when you invoke these emergency powers you create this element of radicalism

00:34:37.480 and you see that in the united states when the federal government starts talking about seizing

00:34:43.800 guns for example or you have a botched fbi rate such as the one that happened under bill clinton in waco

00:34:49.400 texas you see people on the fringes start to react to that sort of thing and there were subsequent acts of

00:34:55.320 right-wing domestic terrorism in the wake of waco because they thought that the federal government

00:34:59.880 had essentially imposed totalitarian rule on the united states it's a crazy belief but when the

00:35:05.080 government oversteps its authority people's imaginations can run wild and i think that

00:35:09.160 trudeau is destabilizing a situation that actually has a natural and safe resolution which he is unwilling

00:35:15.080 to pursue because he's aware that he will pay a political price both with the conservative opposition

00:35:20.920 and within his own liberal camp for backing down but i don't think for the good of the canadian

00:35:26.200 people there's any real alternative to backing down declaring emergency powers is a way of escalating

00:35:31.720 and destabilizing a situation it's almost a guarantee of violence and it's really a stupid thing to do but

00:35:37.160 here we are you know i'm worried that he wants that because of course he has always succeeded by

00:35:42.120 polarizing by calling his enemies you know racist sexist misogynist nazis whatever that's how he

00:35:49.400 he works i saw a poll that put him at 16 so he needs things to be more extreme here's let me close on

00:35:57.000 this note um the truckers the most peaceful mass movement in maybe canadian history so they raised

00:36:05.080 10 million dollars in gofundme and the various governments in canada caused that to be rescinded

00:36:13.400 um they interfered and got gofundme to to cancel it then the truckers went to give send go they

00:36:21.080 couldn't be deplatformed although they were hacked but then they went to court and got an order freezing

00:36:26.840 those funds trudeau two weeks ago introduced a new internet censorship bill that will explicitly target

00:36:35.160 news sites like ours and today the emergency act is brought in all of these things make canada less

00:36:43.080 free and as you mentioned this this motion in parliament today to have some exit plan failed trudeau

00:36:49.560 wants a permanent revolution he wants a permanent emergency joe i gotta tell you i am worried that

00:36:55.880 canada is becoming unfree it can happen i mean argentina venezuela there are countries that

00:37:03.480 that that become less free and i it's hard to imagine that a great country like canada could be

00:37:10.120 that way but um i don't know if we have enough checks and balances in our own country to stop a

00:37:16.840 would-be i don't want to say tyrant but a petty tyrant i think is accurate i just don't know what

00:37:23.480 canadians should do i do not obviously i don't want any violence but what do you do when every single

00:37:29.560 fail safe every check and balance doesn't work and when people go to a general strike that's what

00:37:36.280 i'd call this trucker rebellion sort of a wildcat general strike peaceful and when when you do that

00:37:41.720 they're all called terrorists and they bring in an emergency law i just don't know what canadians

00:37:45.880 should do um and i don't know what americans might think of of you know your closest ally and neighbor

00:37:53.960 and friend really throwing away freedom well i think this is a very speculative response to your

00:38:04.360 question but i think that canada's territorial size makes the imposition of totalitarian rule unlikely it's

00:38:12.440 likelier in the more urbane areas of canada toronto ottawa and so forth but i think there's a large

00:38:20.520 portion of canada geographically that would refuse to live under such a regime if it continued in that

00:38:26.680 direction already with the movement in quebec to separate which has gone back many decades there was

00:38:35.400 talk of canadian promise of provinces seceding to join the united states if that were the case

00:38:41.720 that may be on the table there there may be some greater regionalism that is demanded at least by

00:38:49.320 some of the provinces we've already seen some provinces come out and say they oppose the imposition of

00:38:54.840 trudeau uh using emergency powers and so forth trudeau may provoke a kind of response by

00:39:01.800 some of these provinces to oppose him and to consider other political alternatives that these

00:39:08.040 are sort of things you do in extremists but if trudeau and the people who support him are willing to

00:39:14.920 go to those extremes then you start to have a conversation about that and people are saying

00:39:21.800 you know when we talk about ukraine and russia the the real issue in geopolitics today is what looks

00:39:26.360 like almost a civil war in canada at least from from abroad so i think that a division is likelier than

00:39:32.840 a complete successful suppression of dissent also if trudeau's poll numbers are so low i don't know

00:39:40.440 that much of what he says about the opposition has credibility anymore but i think if i were one of

00:39:46.360 the truckers what i would be doing is trying to build alliances with the constituencies that are

00:39:52.120 often within the liberal camp but are persuadable see if the truckers can form the core of a new

00:39:57.080 opposition that can isolate trudeau look what's happened in this country is joe biden has become

00:40:03.240 isolated until january 2021 the entire democratic party was behind him now the things are going very

00:40:09.480 very poorly not just a mess in canada but russia ukraine afghanistan inflation all the things that are going wrong

00:40:15.800 there are local democratic leaders who won't be seen in public with joe biden he's toxic to them

00:40:21.320 i think you have to toxify justin trudeau and you have to do it in a way that also presents an

00:40:26.840 alternative so you have to start showing people that there really is a different way to do things

00:40:32.440 and give it some time to develop but reach out to moderates or even to some core parts of the liberal

00:40:40.360 constituency that may have some strong disagreements with trudeau for various reasons and say look we need

00:40:46.760 to isolate this guy because he's so damaging to the country i think that would be a good strategy

00:40:51.320 the truckers don't seem to have any central leadership and so forth and the conservative

00:40:55.160 opposition seems to be in some disarray but i think that's the next step if this is to be successful is

00:41:00.920 is for a broader movement to emerge that uses this rebellion or this protest this this general strike as

00:41:08.120 a kind of foundation but at the very least trudeau seems to have lost control of his own country that's

00:41:12.520 an opportunity for the opposition to reorganize and realign so that it can isolate him and then

00:41:18.920 create some divisions within that liberal coalition that today was cheering the passage of a bill or the

00:41:26.040 failure of a bill to promote an exit from covet you have to start finding the fault lines right now the

00:41:31.960 fault lines within the democratic party here in the united states and in biden space are are there and

00:41:37.000 they're growing and they're visible people don't want to be seen with him you have to do that with trudeau as

00:41:40.840 well and i don't think trudeau is a particularly charismatic person or has the ability to bridge

00:41:45.400 those divides he relies on the loyalty of a particular cultural constituency once you start

00:41:51.400 shattering that i think more things become possible very interesting you know i appreciate your outside

00:41:57.080 perspective i i think you're very right to refer to regional differences i know alberta separatism

00:42:02.520 was already high because of trudeau's war on the oil patch and the carbon tax and his general disrespect

00:42:09.640 for the west um i think you're also very wise to point out that there's a tremendous problem with

00:42:16.440 the disarray of the so-called conservatives in this country it'll be interesting for us at rebel

00:42:22.040 news to see what role we play i mean we're trying to tell the story which i think is an important

00:42:25.800 building block we have crowdfunded some civil liberties lawyers i i just i just checked moments ago

00:42:32.200 the canadian civil liberties association which is our version of the aclu they haven't had

00:42:37.400 a press release a tweet any public statement in five days they just that is very much like the aclu you

00:42:45.240 know civil liberties are what they say they stand for until there are actual civil liberties at stake

00:42:50.040 yeah it's just incredible well joel thank you so much for your time and your perspective and it's

00:42:55.400 great to have you on again and we look forward to talking again soon thanks ezra there we have

00:42:59.080 a joel pollack senior editor at large at rightpark.com stay with us more ahead

00:43:15.320 well i'm sorry that my monologue today was not as fleshed out as it should have been

00:43:20.760 um frankly i just need more time to think things over what happened today

00:43:25.080 um i do not think that the trucker rebellion is violent and for trudeau to say it is not peaceful

00:43:32.760 is a lie i think that he's gaslighting us to use a phrase he's telling us not to believe our lying

00:43:40.200 eyes but to believe him instead he's saying that it's a threat to the national national threat i read

00:43:47.400 you the definition of a national threat in the ceases act that applies to the emergency act we're not

00:43:53.000 under threat of espionage we're not under threat of a violent revolution we're not under threat of

00:43:57.720 the four categories of threats we just simply are not that this is a power grab this is a move you

00:44:04.920 would see in trudeau's favorite countries like china or venezuela or cuba i'm worried that the first

00:44:11.960 responses i see are oh well that's canada that's how it is or even journalists cheering him on

00:44:18.920 i wonder what uh the countervailing forces will be i wonder what pierre paulia of the likely new

00:44:28.600 leader of the conservative party will say i don't know but i know that rebel news will continue to

00:44:34.840 fight the best we can mainly by telling the other side of the story i think our journalistic role has

00:44:40.360 been critical in documenting the peaceful nature of the truckers rebellion for the past few weeks

00:44:45.880 i think our ability to crowdfund is essential as you know 78 of all the money that rebel news

00:44:52.680 raises is from crowdfunding since we've been demonetized by youtube we rely on crowdfunding

00:44:59.320 i would hope that trudeau doesn't try and make a move against us but you never know these are dark

00:45:05.400 days i'll come back tomorrow and i'll hopefully have some thoughts a little bit better ironed out so

00:45:10.520 again i apologize that i'm not quite figured out on this one yet i wish you freedom i wish you safety i

00:45:18.280 wish you peace and i will as i always invite you to do i will keep fighting for freedom good night hey there

00:45:28.120 yeah thank you uh so i can confirm that we disabled three looks like three excavators

00:45:36.920 yep um to prevent the equipment from being used in the illegal activity of the blockade

00:45:48.200 so they've cut this main battery cable yeah they cut this negative battery cable almost all the way

00:45:53.800 through they cut the cables on the solenoids these would be start solenoids and uh probably a glue plug

00:46:00.600 solenoids and then this control box they've cut all the wires in it they took the fuel lines off they

00:46:07.000 sprayed foam them shut yeah there's a filter missing over there um and they've cut all the wires off the

00:46:14.920 solenoids there yeah let's get ready yeah and then on the other side here yeah filters are missing and

00:46:35.640 their foam shut yeah a few of the boys have brought out some equipment here and they parked it on private

00:46:48.360 land with a permission from the owner to park it here rcmp um they had it parked in view of the

00:46:56.440 within view of the highway rcmp requested that it be moved out of view of the highway so we've obliged them

00:47:03.160 um after it was moved here somebody sabotaged the equipment there's uh wires cut there's filters

00:47:11.400 removed spray foam put up fuel lines like these things these all three machines they're valuable

00:47:17.880 machines um and it's going to take a lot of work to put them back into order um i can't see that that

00:47:24.920 happening like there's parts missing um parts have to be replaced there's a lot of labor that's got to go

00:47:31.800 into fixing these things before these these fellas can use their their own equipment again hey there

00:47:39.960 yep thank you uh so i can confirm that we disabled three looks like three excavators

00:47:46.200 yep um to prevent the equipment from being used in the illegal activity of the blockade

00:47:51.880 uh was there an expectation there as to how they were going to be used

00:47:54.920 uh i don't i'm not sure i've got the answer for you i'm not sure what other questions you might

00:48:01.160 have with relative to that i wasn't part of that uh that planning or the execution of that so i don't

00:48:08.440 think i can comment any further than that nope it's all good really appreciate that thank you so much

00:48:13.480 yep bye bye hi there it's corporal savinkov here uh hey there corporal uh this is uh sid calling you

00:48:18.360 again really quickly um if you have the time for a second absolutely yep uh so i just wanted to confirm

00:48:23.960 um exactly what the damage was done by the rcmp

00:48:30.280 the damage the disabling yeah yeah so we we can yep right i don't know i don't know what we did to

00:48:36.360 disable those vehicles okay but okay yeah sorry i i forgot to get that bit there uh last time but

00:48:41.800 you did confirm that it was you guys but um in terms of the specific damage you're unaware

00:48:47.000 yeah the specific uh steps that we took to disable those vehicles i don't know okay all right no

00:48:51.880 appreciate that just wanted to reconfirm thank you all right take care yep bye

Rebel News Podcast - February 15, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Justin Trudeau is using the peaceful truckers' rebellion to crush our civil liberties

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