Rebel News Podcast - July 30, 2021


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Liberals waited until Parliament was over before revealing their plan to censor the Internet


Episode Stats

Length

41 minutes

Words per Minute

165.09206

Word Count

6,914

Sentence Count

483

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Today, I take you through Stephen Gilboe's proposed censorship bill. It's not actually a bill, because it hasn't been introduced yet, but it's the bones and the meat on the bones of the bill, and it's terrifying.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I take you through Stephen Gilbeau's proposed censorship bill.
00:00:04.700 It's not actually a bill because it hasn't been introduced yet, but it's the bones and a lot of
00:00:11.180 the meat on the bones of the bill, and it's terrifying. It's his way of censoring any
00:00:16.520 voices he doesn't like, and he pretty much comes out and says it. He's not going after crimes.
00:00:22.160 He's going after voices he doesn't like, and he's going to boost voices he does like and
00:00:28.520 smother voices he doesn't just by deeming them harmful. I won't go through here now, but I take
00:00:35.000 you through his announcement pretty carefully, line by line. Let me invite you to become a subscriber
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00:01:25.200 Tonight, the liberals wait until parliament is over before revealing their plan to censor the
00:01:45.820 internet. It's July 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:49.760 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:55.700 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:59.780 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:02:04.620 right to do so.
00:02:10.600 Bill C-10 was a law that gave the government jurisdiction over the internet. Bill C-36
00:02:18.140 introduced the day before parliament closed, showed how they were making hate speech, another
00:02:24.020 crime or near crime in the law, as well as introducing a pre-crime law that would allow judges to sentence
00:02:32.780 people to house arrest or other restrictions based on your fear of them. That's what we knew
00:02:39.840 when parliament was sitting. But Stephen Gilboa and the other cabinet ministers working for Justin
00:02:47.100 Trudeau waited until today before revealing their master plan to censor the internet. In terms of a
00:02:54.980 piece of legislation, it's not actually a bill. You can't issue a bill when parliament is not sitting.
00:03:01.800 It's just an announcement, but it's the most detailed announcement I think I've ever seen that
00:03:07.320 wasn't a bill. In addition to the announcement, there's pages and pages of technical notes letting
00:03:13.600 you know exactly how they plan to do it. They waited so parliament was not in session, so they
00:03:19.820 couldn't be asked about it in question period, so they can't be studied by parliamentary committees.
00:03:25.520 But you better believe they plan on doing it. As I've shown you before, since Stephen Gilboa was
00:03:30.620 made the heritage minister, censoring the internet was literally the number two item on his job
00:03:36.660 description called a mandate letter from the prime minister. Number one, of course, being handing
00:03:41.380 out money to the good boys and girls in the media party. That's job one. Job two is punishing all the
00:03:47.160 others. Stephen Gilboa is probably the worst cabinet minister other than Catherine McKenna in terms of
00:03:54.280 sheer dislikability and incompetence. Remember this when he went on CTV and accidentally spoke the truth
00:04:02.000 and said, yeah, he wants to license all the news media in Canada. Remember this?
00:04:06.340 They're recommending that content providers have to register and get a license. So how will this work?
00:04:13.300 How are you going to regulate websites? How are you going to register all that? Do you buy these
00:04:17.720 recommendations?
00:04:20.720 Well, I mean, one of the recommendations, so you're talking about a couple of different things here, but
00:04:26.140 as far as the licensing is concerned, is if you're a distributor of content in Canada, and obviously,
00:04:31.980 you know, if you're a very small media organization, the requirement probably wouldn't be the same as if
00:04:39.660 you're Facebook or Google. So there would have to be some proportionality embedded into this. But we would ask that they have a license. Yes.
00:04:50.940 The reaction was very strong. And he had to walk that back. But he actually didn't change his mind. He just thought he would
00:04:57.180 make the reporters feel better. Later, he told eager reporters at a Canada 2020 conference, that indeed, he plans to
00:05:05.180 regulate the internet. And get this, one of the things he wants to crack down on the hardest was anyone criticizing
00:05:13.180 politicians. That he said was a top priority. Get a look at this.
00:05:17.820 We've seen too many examples of public officials retreating from public service due to the hateful
00:05:23.580 online content targeted towards themselves or even their families.
00:05:28.620 Seriously, I don't know if you know, but in terms of how we protect speech, there's commercial speech,
00:05:33.980 which has some protection. There's religious speech. But the speech that actually gets the most protection
00:05:40.300 in our society is political speech to criticize the government. You can understand why.
00:05:45.820 Because without it, all our other freedoms could wash away. That's what Stephen Gilboa hates the most.
00:05:52.380 And he says that if he doesn't get his way, if people don't bend the knee and stop criticizing
00:05:58.140 politicians, well, he might go to the nuclear option. Listen to him say that.
00:06:03.340 Could we envision having blocking orders? I mean, maybe. It's not, you know, it would be,
00:06:15.660 it would likely be a last result nuclear bomb in a toolbox of mechanism for regulators.
00:06:26.060 Well, the nuclear option was dropped today. There's one more thing I want to play you from
00:06:30.940 that Stephen Gilboa video, because it also came true today. It's a very Orwellian double think
00:06:39.020 way of talking. Of course, freedom of the press helps the most marginalized. If you already
00:06:44.460 have power and have money and are in a position of authority, you don't actually need free speech.
00:06:49.420 You've got the stuff. But the more marginalized you are, the more you rely on free speech.
00:06:55.340 Think about Martin Luther King when he took on the entire establishment in the civil rights movement
00:07:00.060 in the 60s. He had nothing other than the power of speech. The suffragette movement, nothing but the
00:07:06.140 power of speech, the movement to stop the slave trade. It did not have the power or the money. It had
00:07:12.780 the free speech. But according to Stephen Gilboa, Justin Trudeau's errand boy on this project,
00:07:18.460 in order to have free speech, you have to censor people. You have to silence some people,
00:07:24.300 he believes, in order to allow his friends to speak. That's the other thing he said at that conference.
00:07:29.580 By not acting, we are, in fact, not ensuring a great number of Canadians' freedom of expression
00:07:37.660 and freedom of speech. Because they can't express themselves on these platforms
00:07:43.980 the way they, in a safe manner and the way they have a right to.
00:07:50.220 Well, that was all weeks ago when I've been showing you this and talking to you about this
00:07:53.900 for months on Rebel News. Well, today was the day they did it. Like I say, waiting until parliament
00:07:59.340 was over. So there's no question period. And do you really think that the media party that eats out of
00:08:03.900 his hands $600 million a year in bailouts? Do you really think they're going to ask him tough
00:08:07.820 questions? So here's a press release called Creating a Safe, Inclusive, and Open Online Environment
00:08:16.780 from Canadian Heritage. You know, that's very Orwellian in itself, like calling the Ministry
00:08:22.380 of Propaganda the Ministry of Truth. It's not going to be any more safe. In fact, it's going to be
00:08:28.380 dangerous if you have any dissonant ideas. It's not more open. Every tool in this tool,
00:08:33.820 box is about welding people's mouths shut. And it's certainly not inclusive. It's only inclusive
00:08:39.980 if you're a friend of the government, not if you're a critic. I'll read the entire press release to you,
00:08:44.860 and I'll talk to you more about it. The government of Canada is committed to taking concrete action
00:08:50.860 to combat serious forms of harmful online content, specifically hate speech, terrorist content,
00:08:59.740 content that incites violence, child sexual exploitation content, and the non-consensual
00:09:05.820 distribution of intimate images. Isn't that an interesting combination of ideas? Because I think
00:09:13.020 there was four ideas, three of them, obviously 99.9% of Canadians would agree. Crimes inciting violence,
00:09:21.660 there ought to be a law. In fact, there is. That's already against the law. And whether you incite
00:09:27.500 violence in real life, or on the radio, or on TV, or in a print newspaper, or through a telegram,
00:09:34.700 or through the internets, it's all against the law. That's already covered. Same thing with terrorism.
00:09:41.180 Terrorism is already against the law. And our criminal code was brought up to speed, up to date,
00:09:47.580 after 9-11. There are many specific crimes in the criminal code that touch upon supporting terrorists,
00:09:55.100 even online. That's already handled. Same thing with child sex trafficking, revenge porn. That's
00:10:02.380 something that can be treated without censoring the entire internet in general. That's something that
00:10:07.580 ought to be done, and I believe is done already in some jurisdictions. But look what they hid amongst
00:10:13.660 those. Everyone agrees in banning revenge porn, and child exploitation, and terrorism, and
00:10:20.540 inciting violence. We all agree with that. I know we do, because those are already laws. But in the
00:10:25.020 middle of there, they have offensive speech, hate speech, speech that causes harm. I know what speech
00:10:31.900 that's a crime is, uttering a death threat, inciting violence. But what they've done here, and you'll see
00:10:37.420 this all the way through, is they buried their real purpose. Harmful speech. Not illegal speech,
00:10:43.820 not criminal speech, just speech they don't like. Speech that makes fun of politicians.
00:10:48.220 Speech that maybe drowns out their political enemies. They've buried that amongst the terrorism
00:10:53.340 and the child pornography. So if you dare to oppose this, they'll surely say, what, are you against
00:10:59.020 terrorism laws? Actually, it's Trudeau that's against terrorism laws. He gave a big fat apology
00:11:04.940 and ten and a half million dollars to a terrorist called Omar Khanna. That's beside the point. Let me read some
00:11:09.340 more. Today, the Honorable Stephen Gilbeau, Minister of Canadian Heritage, alongside the Honorable Bill Blair,
00:11:15.660 Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, and the Honorable David Lametti, Minister of Justice
00:11:20.220 and Attorney General of Canada, launched a public consultation on a proposed approach for promoting
00:11:25.420 a safe, inclusive, and open online environment. The proposal has been informed by extensive work
00:11:31.500 led by the government over the last year on the issue of online harm. Inclusive, eh?
00:11:38.140 Only an Orwellian censor would describe cutting things down and shutting mouths as inclusive.
00:11:46.940 It reflects targeted engagement with communities that experience inequitable outcomes or treatment,
00:11:52.860 including victims of hate speech and organizations combating child sexual exploitation.
00:11:58.140 The proposal also draws on insights from civil society and advocacy groups from across Canada,
00:12:04.780 and on approaches taken by Canada's international partners. Targeted engagement. What does that mean?
00:12:11.660 That means they spoke to lobby groups, including lobby groups that they funded to get the green
00:12:17.740 light for their censorship plans. Inequitable outcomes. By that, they mean people who they don't think
00:12:25.660 that they're being listened to enough and that people should stop listening to others. For example,
00:12:30.460 if there's a YouTube channel that only has a few thousand viewers, but let's say, oh, I don't know,
00:12:35.900 Rebel News with 1.5 million subscribers, well, that's inequitable and it's not inclusive enough.
00:12:42.300 You heard Stephen Gilboa. He says in order to prop up his friends, he's going to have to squash his enemies a bit.
00:12:49.660 I think the most troubling part there is he refers to international partners. By that,
00:12:55.100 I think they mean foreign censors. Even, as you know, two years ago, when Canada co-sponsored a media
00:13:03.260 freedom conference in London, Chrystia Freeland attended and had a secret meeting with the foreign
00:13:08.700 minister of Pakistan. It wasn't on her itinerary. She didn't tell any Western media about it. It was
00:13:14.540 only when that foreign minister of Pakistan boasted about it and published the pictures
00:13:18.300 that we knew. Is that an example about the foreign and international partners that Trudeau
00:13:23.820 is listening to when it comes to censorship? I'll read some more.
00:13:27.580 The government aims to present a new legislative and regulatory framework this fall with rules to
00:13:33.580 make social media platforms and other online services more accountable and transparent in
00:13:38.540 combating harmful online content. This framework would also contemplate the role of law enforcement
00:13:44.460 and security and intelligence agencies in addressing the real-world impacts of online harm.
00:13:50.060 These proposals aim to support inclusive online participation and protect public safety while
00:13:55.260 protecting the freedom of expression and privacy of Canadians online. Again, they talked about
00:14:02.780 terrorism and child pornography so that you would say, yes, I agree with this. But now that we're into it,
00:14:09.180 they're talking about inclusive participation. They're talking about regulating things that are not crimes.
00:14:16.300 If you want to regulate terrorism, do so. And the good news is we did so 20 years ago. If you want to
00:14:23.180 regulate revenge porn or child exploitation, do so. And indeed we do. But that's not what this law's about.
00:14:30.780 I'll continue. Seeking public input on the complex and technical elements of regulating harmful online content
00:14:37.820 is an important step in establishing this framework. Notice how they use the word harmful, not illegal.
00:14:44.060 They've already banned the illegal stuff. That's why it's called illegal. Harmful is just stuff that
00:14:49.260 Stephen Gilboa doesn't like. Like insults. He told us. I'll read some more. More specifically,
00:14:55.980 the government's proposed regulatory framework would
00:14:59.740 define the types of harmful content to be regulated, establish which entities would be subject to the
00:15:05.900 new rules, set out new rules and obligations for regulated entities, and create new regulatory bodies
00:15:12.860 to administer the new framework. In the weeks ahead, the government will also hold roundtable discussions
00:15:18.780 to have focused conversations on aspect of the law enforcement and national security proposals.
00:15:24.780 Yeah, it'll be fascinating to see who is invited. Like they're going to have targeted meetings with
00:15:30.380 their friends who will tell them exactly what they want to hear. In fact, I predict that most of the
00:15:34.620 the people who are consulted are people that the Liberal Party pays through government grants to toe
00:15:40.380 their line. It's just an echo chamber. I don't think there will be many true civil libertarians
00:15:45.660 allowed at these events because first of all, there aren't very many true civil libertarians allowed in
00:15:50.140 Canada anymore at all. And second of all, this government doesn't really consult. They put together
00:15:55.100 focus groups or more likely just defenders who will repeat their talking points and say, yeah,
00:16:00.700 we support this censorship because it's about inclusion. I'll read some more. This includes
00:16:06.780 how the regulatory framework can be structured to require the removal of serious forms of harmful
00:16:12.060 online content, facilitate the investigation of potential criminal activity online, and disrupt
00:16:17.740 threats to public safety and national security, all while supporting victims from protecting Canadians'
00:16:22.620 privacy and charter rights. Well, this reminds me a little bit about what they're doing south of the
00:16:27.900 border. And I don't think it's a coincidence either. I think we know that for years, the Liberal Party
00:16:33.100 of Canada has had Democratic Party operatives helping to run their campaign, something that if the
00:16:38.780 Conservatives ever did with Republicans would be an endless scandal in the media. I think it's pretty
00:16:43.180 much taken for granted that the Liberals and the Democrats in the states work together. In the states,
00:16:48.300 they're focusing on censorship. They're inquiring into the events of January 6th, which is the great
00:16:54.220 meandering when people broke into the Capitol building and then just sort of wandered around
00:16:59.100 and put their feet up on desks. That's an attempt to redefine anyone who supported Donald Trump as a
00:17:04.620 domestic violent extremist. As I said on the show this week, I don't support break and enter or
00:17:11.180 trespass or vandalism or mischief. But the only person murdered that day was Ashley Babbitt, a protester who
00:17:18.380 happened to be a military veteran. Brian Sicknick, the officer who the media claimed died that day,
00:17:23.900 according to the coroner's office, died later from natural causes. But yet that event is being trumped
00:17:29.580 up into basically a 9-11 domestically to give a justification for the FBI and others to go after
00:17:37.100 anyone conservative to demonize half the country. I fear that that's the battle plan for Justin Trudeau and
00:17:43.740 the Liberals. You heard Stephen Gilboa himself. This is about people who criticize politicians. He's
00:17:49.580 said so. And you can see here that they're talking about harms now. They're not talking about crimes.
00:17:55.740 I'm all in favor of hunting crime in every form, whether it's on a ship at sea or a real world
00:18:03.500 building or on the internet. The criminal code, luckily, applies to all of these. But that's not what
00:18:07.980 this is about. I'll read some more. The government welcomes all comments, perspectives, and evidence
00:18:14.860 concerning these issues and potential options. Submissions will help inform the incoming
00:18:19.900 legislation. No, they don't. I know that they don't. They ban us. They specifically ban Rebel News
00:18:27.260 from press conferences. Stephen Gilboa has personally banned me from following him on Twitter. In fact,
00:18:33.900 we launched a lawsuit against him because he was banning me from getting official government
00:18:38.140 releases on his Twitter account. And he's hiring lawyers to fight that. That pettiness and that
00:18:44.540 targeting his political disagreeers rather than targeting criminals gives the game away.
00:18:50.380 Stephen Gilboa is not interested in fighting terrorism. He himself is a convicted criminal who
00:18:55.740 engaged in a little bit of eco-terrorism himself. Stephen Gilboa doesn't care about terrorism. He's a
00:19:02.220 criminal. He cares about silencing people like Rebel News. Canadians and stakeholders have until
00:19:09.180 September 25 to submit their comments. Click here to participate. We will. In fact, we've already
00:19:16.220 started analyzing the massive document that was attached to this press release, all the different
00:19:22.780 regulators, the role that CSIS, our spy agency, will play. I think they're going to try and do the same
00:19:28.940 thing they're doing in the States to turn the anti-terrorism infrastructure of the country that's
00:19:35.180 designed to protect us against another 9-11 or another shooting as Al-Qaeda did and ISIS did on
00:19:42.940 our parliament. I think they're trying to turn the anti-terrorism machinery towards domestic conservatives.
00:19:47.980 I think that's pretty clear. We will make submissions on this. We're going to put together the best we can.
00:19:54.300 I'm certain it'll be ignored. They've already said they're going to have specific targeted meetings
00:19:58.860 with their friends, but we'll go through the motions anyways. We have to. It'll also be an
00:20:03.420 education for us of how bad this bill is and a preparation for when this bill is introduced and
00:20:10.460 then becomes law. I promise you right now the Rebel News will fight this in court all the way to the
00:20:17.740 Supreme Court. This is the bill we've been warning you about for pretty much a year or even more
00:20:24.460 really since the Liberal Party banned us from even reporting on the national debates. Stephen Gilboa,
00:20:31.980 Justin Trudeau, and the rest of their thin-skinned cry bullies always say they're harmed by our
00:20:38.460 questions and they want to silence us and censor us. And the rest of the civil libertarians haven't
00:20:44.140 been there in the progressive conservatives or the CPC as it's now called. Well, here's Aaron O'Toole's
00:20:50.780 hand-picked critic for Heritage. His name is Alain Reyes. Here he is in parliament talking about this
00:20:57.740 very thing, talking about Stephen Gilboa's plans to regulate the internet, Facebook, YouTube. Take a listen.
00:21:04.540 But we don't see it in the bill. There's nothing in this bill that allows for the regulation of social
00:21:13.340 media or platforms like YouTube. And it's clear we would have liked to have seen this in the bill.
00:21:19.500 The minister even says we have to find a way of preventing hate speech, conspiracy theories and
00:21:28.140 fake news that's shared. But right now in the bill, unfortunately, we won't even be able to amend it
00:21:36.380 in that aspect. And because it's simply absent from the bill. Yeah, he's the opposition critic,
00:21:42.060 but he's not opposing and he's not criticizing other than saying he wished the government would go
00:21:47.100 farther. I'm actually quite worried that the Conservative Party of Canada and Aaron O'Toole and Alan Reyes
00:21:52.860 might not even oppose this. They're too worried about being told that they're sympathetic with
00:21:57.660 domestic violent extremists or whatever. The wording of this, it's not a bill, it's a pre-bill. The
00:22:03.740 wording of it is designed so if you oppose it, people will say, oh, what are you sympathetic to
00:22:08.220 terrorism? What are you sympathetic to child exploitation? No. It's the free speech you buried
00:22:15.180 in the middle of it that I'm worried about. They attach a technical paper for more study, they say,
00:22:22.220 I've started to study it. It's a massive thing. I'll read a little bit.
00:22:25.820 Technical paper. The aim of this discussion paper is to present a proposed framework
00:22:29.580 for an act of parliament. It reflects one of several possible approaches. The paper does not
00:22:34.380 imply approval by any party of the approaches or concepts in it. Any eventual act may be supplemented
00:22:40.620 by regulations made under the act. Well, of course, it reflects the work of this government. Of course,
00:22:46.060 it was published by Stephen Gilboa and it's a result of his two-year project to come up with a
00:22:50.700 censorship plan. Of course, this reflects the liberal view, and they want it talked about,
00:22:56.140 and they want it talked about when they're in control of the conversation, which is why they
00:22:59.260 did it outside of parliament. I promise you this will be our largest fight of the year. Now,
00:23:04.140 we're still battling on the lockdown issue. As you know, we have over 2,000 cases that fight the
00:23:09.260 fight. That's very important. But this, I think, is them coming to kill us and our friends at True
00:23:15.260 North and the Post Millennial and Spencer Fernando and anyone else who doesn't toe the line. There's two
00:23:22.220 ways with Justin Trudeau. Either he pays you, like the CBC or the Post Media bailout, or he bans you.
00:23:31.580 There's nothing in between. We're starting a petition at StopTheCensorship.ca. StopTheCensorship.ca.
00:23:39.500 If you sign up there, I'll send you a copy of our submissions to the government. I know they'll be
00:23:44.300 ignored by the government, but I hope that they inform the world what's going on in Canada.
00:23:51.580 And we'll surely sue as soon as this is law. But they're really not waiting, are they? We know what
00:24:00.140 they're going to do. They're coming to silence us, but they're coming to silence you too.
00:24:07.020 Stay with us for more.
00:24:14.300 Welcome back. Well, where is the old Civil Liberties Alliance? I'm talking about
00:24:24.940 60s-style liberals and leftists who maybe had a splash of anarchy in them, but what you could
00:24:31.900 count on them for was a robust defense of freedom of speech. I remember, I mean, I wasn't around yet
00:24:37.660 in the 60s, but I know that the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, would often make a point of
00:24:44.220 sending a black or Jewish lawyer to defend Klansmen or neo-Nazis, making the point that
00:24:51.580 obviously they disagreed with their client, but they understood. You have to fight the fight for
00:24:56.220 free speech in the first ditch, not the last ditch. Where is that old Civil Liberties Alliance of the
00:25:02.620 left? I think it's gone. Certainly here in Canada, where the Canadian Civil Liberties Association
00:25:08.860 has been sleeping soundly through the last 18 months of the greatest infringement of civil
00:25:14.220 liberties since Canada was born. So too in the United States, where the ACLU seems more concerned
00:25:21.180 with trans rights than the rights of all Americans, including trans people during the lockdown. Well,
00:25:27.980 I'm pleased to say that to replace that old Civil Liberties Alliance, there's something
00:25:32.220 actually called the new Civil Liberties Alliance. And they care very much about civil liberties,
00:25:38.380 regardless of your race or gender or background. It's all about freedom. And you know, one of their
00:25:45.660 lawyers, we've talked to her before, her name is Janine Yunus. And she comes to us now via Skype from
00:25:50.300 Washington, where she is the lead lawyer suing or threatening to sue a university for forced
00:25:56.940 vaccinations. Janine, great to see you again. It's great to be back, Ezra. Well, thank you.
00:26:01.900 I have in my hands a press release that you guys put out last week called NCLA, that's you guys,
00:26:07.100 the new Civil Liberties Alliance, tells George Mason University that its forced vaccination policy
00:26:14.380 violates constitutional rights and medical ethics. I've never seen a policy quite as abusive as this.
00:26:20.620 And I've seen half a dozen attempts at vaccine passports. Why don't you tell us what George
00:26:26.460 Mason University threatened its staff and students with?
00:26:29.420 So George Mason's policy is laid out in three separate documents. There was an email that came
00:26:36.540 out on June 28, and then another one on July 22, and then there was a website. And they're not all
00:26:41.500 exactly the same, but they've given an indication that one overrides the other. So we're assuming they're
00:26:45.900 all operative. So students are mandated to get the vaccine. They allow religious and medical exemptions.
00:26:53.740 But if you get one of those, you have to socially distance and mask and subject yourself to constant
00:26:59.820 testing. So it's obviously quite punitive. It makes the life of the student who has the exemption
00:27:04.140 fairly miserable. Faculty and staff are not saying it's a mandate. They're saying you're encouraged to
00:27:11.980 get the vaccine. But again, if you don't get it, you have to physically distance, wear a mask,
00:27:17.020 subject yourself to testing. You can seek a remote option. So obviously for professors,
00:27:22.700 this really interferes with their ability to perform their job effectively. You can't be as
00:27:27.740 effective if you're wearing a mask, if you can't take students to lunch, if you can't hold office
00:27:30.860 hours, all of which are part of the social distancing and masking requirements. And to make matters worse,
00:27:39.740 you have to upload proof of your vaccination status. They say proof of vaccination status,
00:27:44.300 but obviously you can't upload proof that you haven't gotten the vaccine. So they're saying,
00:27:50.540 you know, proof that you have got it into an online portal. And if you don't,
00:27:53.660 you're ineligible for merit pay increases. And if you don't comply with the policies,
00:27:58.700 you're subject to disciplinary action, which includes termination of employment and
00:28:04.940 or possible unpaid leave. So although it's not a mandate, technically it's effectively a mandate.
00:28:10.540 Yeah. I mean, to denormalize, marginalize, denounce, segregate and make people wear a scarlet
00:28:17.340 letter or a mask. What's so interesting is that your client, who's actually a law school professor
00:28:24.620 there. And I used to know George Mason University some years ago as a real liberty kind of think tank.
00:28:30.700 At least that's what I remember it as. Maybe they messed with the wrong guy because the Scalia
00:28:36.860 School of Law, I mean, that should tell you that they care about freedom. Professor Todd Zwicky,
00:28:41.500 if I'm saying his name right, he had the COVID virus naturally. So he has a natural immunity to it.
00:28:49.740 Sounds like that's not cutting any ice. They want him to take the injection anyways,
00:28:56.140 even though it has real risks as outlined by the drug companies themselves. They're not respecting
00:29:01.980 or exempting him, even though he's got natural immunity. Am I right?
00:29:06.540 It doesn't appear that they're going to. We sent a letter requesting that they do so.
00:29:10.700 I believe that Professor Zwicky had brought this up with them before and they indicated that they
00:29:14.860 were not going to acknowledge or recognize his natural immunity as equivalent to vaccine immunity,
00:29:20.060 which is absurd. We have, as you know, we established through a few declarations that
00:29:24.780 we attached to the letter, natural immunity is as good or better as the most effective
00:29:28.860 vaccines. It's far better than some of the vaccines that the, that GMU accepts actually.
00:29:33.420 So GMU is accepting any who approved vaccine, which includes the Chinese Sinovac vaccine, which has
00:29:39.500 a very low efficacy rate. The Johnson and Johnson is somewhere between 66 and I think 83,
00:29:45.020 85% effective. Whereas natural immunity is in the high nineties in terms of efficacy. And it looks as
00:29:51.340 though Pfizer just came out with a study showing that, um, after six, six months, uh, immunity,
00:29:58.220 sorry, that's not Pfizer. There was a study from Israel showing that immunity from the Pfizer vaccine
00:30:02.780 wanes significantly after about six months. Um, so it still reduces symptoms, but you can be infected,
00:30:09.340 which means that you can spread it. Whereas natural immunity doesn't appear to have that. So
00:30:13.420 this is completely irrational, arbitrary and makes no sense whatsoever.
00:30:17.180 Yeah. Yeah. Yesterday on my show, I went through the entire, I think it was seven page
00:30:23.500 Pfizer statement about their vaccine and all the different, you know, uh, caveats and footnotes and
00:30:31.180 warnings and words like experimental kept coming up. There was also a line in there I thought was
00:30:37.020 interesting. Pfizer themselves say, if you don't take this vaccine, it should not alter any other medical
00:30:43.020 treatment you receive. Like their basic, it was a very interesting document. Um, I'm sure it was written
00:30:48.380 for reasons of legal liability. Uh, Pfizer is not as, uh, cheerleading, at least in its official documents
00:30:56.060 about the Pfizer vaccine as every politician and bureaucrat seems to be. They can't emphasize enough
00:31:03.740 the risks. They can't emphasize enough that for example, it hasn't been tested when you mix and
00:31:09.500 match vaccines, which is what many Canadians have had done. Yeah. I read that Pfizer warning,
00:31:15.100 seven page warning. Another thing is I'm certain that no other per like one in a million people
00:31:21.580 actually read the seven page warning before they're injected. This is an experimental med
00:31:27.580 that is not done being tested. For example, they, they treat pregnant women or breastfeeding women.
00:31:33.180 They say, we just don't know. So how can a school, especially a school that's supposed to know law
00:31:42.060 command its staff and students, you must take this even if you've got immunity when Pfizer itself says,
00:31:48.860 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is voluntary. It's, it's extraordinary Ezra. I mean,
00:31:53.820 and as I think we've discussed before in the U S these are authorized under a statute known as the
00:31:58.220 emergency use authorization statute. I don't know if there's an equivalent in Canada. Um,
00:32:02.780 that statute is quite clear. It says that recipients should be offered the option to, um,
00:32:08.700 to refuse the treatment that they must be informed of the risks and benefits. Uh, and everybody is
00:32:14.140 acting as though that doesn't exist. In fact, the office of legal counsel at the DOJ, which advises the
00:32:19.260 president just issued a memo saying something like, well, it might, it might appear that it shouldn't
00:32:25.100 be able to be mandated, but we think it's clear that it should be able to, they used a very contorted
00:32:29.580 or twisted interpretation of the statute that makes no sense. It's not based on a plain reading
00:32:34.780 of the statute at all. And it's clear to me, this is all political. You know, there's this, uh,
00:32:39.500 drive to vaccinate everyone, vaccinate everyone. Why I don't understand. It doesn't make any logical
00:32:43.820 sense, particularly when you're talking about people who have a natural immunity, but also, you know,
00:32:48.220 applies to a lot of people who are younger, healthy, and might make a decision or assessment that the risk
00:32:54.460 to them outweighs the benefit. Yeah. I mean, what's interesting to me is when some of these Olympic
00:32:58.780 athletes who are probably healthier and fitter than 99.99% of the world. I mean, these people
00:33:06.620 are the absolute best of us in terms of physical stamina and fitness. The percentage of the regular
00:33:15.340 20 somethings who get sick or, or gravely sick or die in that age group is so close to zero. It's hard
00:33:23.020 to measure, let alone these, you know, fine athletic specimens. It's shocking to me that,
00:33:29.900 that anyone would expect that they would take an experimental drug whose side effects are known,
00:33:36.060 but we don't know the full extent of them. The drug's still being tested. And why would a perfectly
00:33:41.900 healthy Olympian inject himself with that med? I just, I find that this is no longer about medic,
00:33:50.460 medicine or science. It's about obedience, about indicating which team you're on,
00:33:57.100 about, about being able to hector other people. It gives you a leg up so you can be in the in group.
00:34:05.020 I think masks were to soften us up. Masks softened us up, obedience conditioning,
00:34:11.020 and now the vax. And then we're already hearing boosters and annual shots. I mean, it's not,
00:34:17.660 you know, we heard of double masking. Now there's double and triple, triple vaccine. I'm,
00:34:22.540 I'm deeply worried about this and I just don't even understand it. I don't understand it. If it's
00:34:28.140 a public health thing, I absolutely do understand it. If it's a social control thing, then it makes
00:34:35.580 sense. Yes. It's the only way it makes sense. And you know, you mentioned masks and now the vaccine.
00:34:40.700 I mean, we also had at the very beginning, it was shaming people for not socially distancing
00:34:44.300 appropriately or not following those rules. So it's just been a long attempt to shame people,
00:34:48.060 to socially control them and to create these in and out groups, as you mentioned,
00:34:51.180 and to demonize people and to blame them. When you know it's the fact is that this disease can't
00:34:58.380 be controlled or solved by the government. It can't be solved by people, but we're trying to blame
00:35:03.180 people and demonize them for, for their choices. Yeah. I mean, I, I was reading Jordan Shachtell.
00:35:09.900 He had a clever tweet today. He said it went from, Hey everybody, the vaccine will save us to
00:35:14.940 convince your neighbors to wear, to get a vaccine. Come on, just coax them to
00:35:18.940 you bloody unvaccinated people. You're the reason we're still sick like that.
00:35:22.460 That's sure. Escalated quickly. We talked about in groups and out groups and,
00:35:27.820 and lockdownism as a ideology, really more a superstition. I saw something interesting
00:35:33.260 yesterday, uh, an enormous union, which I think we could probably safely say is a pro Democrat,
00:35:40.060 pro Biden union, the postal workers. They said they're not for, for mandatory vax. Joe Biden has
00:35:46.860 said that he wants everyone who works for the government to be vaxed. Postal workers said, no,
00:35:50.380 thanks. Um, I'm going to find that an interesting one to follow because, you know, it's one thing for
00:35:57.660 the zoom, uh, class of society, folks who can, you know, work from home, never lost a day's pay.
00:36:07.260 They think this is a, you know, sort of a, a fun emergency because it doesn't cost them anything,
00:36:12.220 but they get to be very dramatic. That's one world. But you know, if you're a door to door,
00:36:19.260 blue collar postal worker, you probably are from a different world and you don't want to be injected.
00:36:24.060 I wonder if there's any other demographic groups that have political clout. Um, I've heard that
00:36:30.380 visible minorities, for example, including black Americans have a, a lower vaccination rate and they
00:36:36.460 would be disproportionately penalized in any vax passport system, uh, system. We've heard the
00:36:42.300 phrase systemic racism. You didn't mean to be racist, but the system has that effect. I wonder if
00:36:48.700 there's going to be any hope that these traditional Democrat groups, whether it's union workers or
00:36:55.100 black Americans might be some sort of counterweight that liberty loving, you know, political people
00:37:02.460 on the right, just don't get any traction. Uh, I wouldn't hold my breath. My friends and I have tried
00:37:08.940 making that point a little bit on Twitter and various other places, and it doesn't seem to get any
00:37:12.700 traction. Um, so because the vaccination rates for minorities and especially for minorities in New York
00:37:18.620 City and other places is much lower. So we're, you know, pointing to the fact that they're being
00:37:22.220 excluded at much higher rates, but nobody seems to care. Uh, the, the desire to politicize this virus,
00:37:27.420 to politicize this issue and to politicize the management is just right overwriting everything.
00:37:31.420 Last question, just back to the lawsuit that the NCLA is, uh, uh, is looking at. Have you actually
00:37:38.540 filed the lawsuit or have you just sent demand letters to the university? The fact that they
00:37:42.700 put up their policy and then yanked it down within hours tells us that they knew they phrased it wrong.
00:37:48.700 I bet there's a lot of interesting behind the scenes correspondence that could come out in some sort of
00:37:53.420 document discovery. I think they have dirty hands and they, they should walk away. Have they responded
00:37:59.180 to you? Have you actually filed a lawsuit or are you just sort of sending them a warning shot so far?
00:38:05.020 Um, so far it's just a warning shot. I haven't received a response to my letter yet. Um,
00:38:09.820 which we, uh, sent last Wednesday. So, uh, we will keep you posted. We're, um, prepared to
00:38:17.260 protect Professor Zwicky's constitutional rights and, uh, I'll be happy to speak again as things develop,
00:38:23.420 if they develop. Yeah. Well, thank you for that. And just to tell our Canadian viewers who are most of our
00:38:28.060 viewers, uh, besides our, uh, petition at novaxpassports.ca, we are looking for a test case
00:38:36.940 for our civil liberties project up here. And what's so interesting about this case is that
00:38:42.700 Professor Zwicky is a very sympathetic client in that he has natural immunity already.
00:38:49.420 And the institution is very odious in that they're so punitive
00:38:53.340 and bullying. That's the kind of fact pattern we're looking for up here in Canada,
00:38:59.100 a sympathetic plaintiff who for medical or religious reasons ought to be exempt and an odious
00:39:05.420 defendant, uh, ideally a government agency that's bound by the charter of rights. So if you know
00:39:12.220 someone in that position, send them to us. We are looking for a test case. Send that to legal
00:39:17.580 at rebelnews.com. Janine Yunus, uh, great to see you again. Congratulations. Hopefully the new
00:39:24.060 civil liberties alliance will fill the void left by the hiding old civil liberties alliance. Thanks
00:39:30.780 for being with us. All right. Great to see you. There you have it. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:39:44.460 Hey, welcome back on my show last night on vaccine passports. Bruce writes,
00:39:51.500 I won't get the jab because I won't be able to sue the companies and governments for bad side effects.
00:39:56.220 Yeah. I mean, it, it's incredible, um, how the lessons of thalidomide, that was
00:40:03.020 the medication for pregnant moms who had morning sickness and it caused their babies to be born
00:40:08.060 limbless. Terrible, terrible consequences. That totally changed the pharmacy business. It required
00:40:15.180 all sorts of tests in advance. And it was very, it brought in all sorts of ethics rules for who you
00:40:21.660 could test drugs on. Well, they're testing these drugs on the whole world, aren't they? Maybe in the
00:40:28.060 end, it'll be found that this vaccine is really effective and not dangerous. But so far, I'm not
00:40:32.380 sure how effective it is. It looks like the effectiveness wears off after a number of weeks.
00:40:36.780 And it looks like it has had more side effects than every other vaccine reported combined.
00:40:43.100 I'm not saying that people should not take the vaccine. I'm just saying we need more information.
00:40:47.580 And if you're under 50 or even under 60, really, and if you're healthy, it just, the math doesn't add up.
00:40:55.740 Yeah. CK writes, I don't understand. The vax doesn't save you from either getting COVID or
00:41:00.940 passing it on to others. Why does it, everyone have to have the experimental gene therapy they're
00:41:05.180 calling a vaccination, but resembles no other vaccine in history? Well, that's the thing. I think
00:41:10.540 I showed you that Kathleen Kuczynowski went out and did some streeters in Toronto. And some people
00:41:14.620 said, I would never invite anyone who's not double-vaxxed like me over for dinner. Well, hang on.
00:41:19.660 If you're double-vaxxed, aren't you saved harmless from it? I don't know. I think there's a lot of
00:41:24.700 disinformation and misinformation. Big pharmacies never had it better. They've never been more
00:41:29.900 profitable. But mainly, as I said to Janine today, I just don't think this is about health.
00:41:35.660 I think it's about using health as an excuse for government control. That's very different,
00:41:40.380 isn't it? That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at
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