EZRA LEVANT | Maybe CSIS can put aside its important global warming work to focus on Chinese spies for a bit?
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A photo taken 130 years ago and taken now shows the same sea level. That photo is the most hated photo on the internet, in the eyes of fact checkers. I'll show you why they hate that photo so much, and what they're trying to do to cover it up. And then I pivot somehow from that to the latest China revelations.
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Hello, my rebels. I have sort of a double-barreled monologue today. First, I'm going to talk about
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this meme, you've probably seen it, of a little naval fort in Sydney, Harper, Australia. A
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photo taken 130 years ago and a photo taken now and showing the same sea level. That is
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the most hated photo on the internet in the eyes of fact checkers. I'll show you why they
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hate that photo so much and what they're trying to do to cover it up. It's so weird. And then
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I'm going to pivot somehow from that to the latest China revelations. I do make a
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connection. You'll bear with me as I show it to you. I think it's a good show today. We
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also have a great guest. Let me invite you to see the video version. I want you to see
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this fort, this naval fort. It's called Fort Denison. The photo is so powerful you can see
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why the fact checkers hate it. To see it, go to rebelnewsplus.com, click subscribe, eight
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Tonight, maybe CSIS can put aside its important global warming work to focus on Chinese spies for
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a bit. It's March 20th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Hey, I want to talk to you about China's dictatorship undermining our democracy, just so many different
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parts of the democratic establishment. But look at this first. I wonder if you've ever seen this
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meme on Facebook or Twitter. That's Fort Denison, which is in Sydney Harbor in Australia.
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There are three pictures over 130 years suggesting just a few inches of sea level rise in more than 100
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years. Here's another one. There's a lot of versions of this meme. Here's another shot.
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It's pretty clear, and I find it convincing. It's surprisingly hard to find this meme if you search
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for it, actually. I went to Google, which was probably my first mistake, and the first 10 items
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are actually rebuttals to the meme. You can't find the meme, but the first 10 things you see are,
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it's false, it's false. Well, let me read what's supposedly false before you tell me it's false.
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Can I make up my own mind? Let me click on some of the links. This is from the Australian Associated
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Press. AAP fact check, trusted, accurate, and impartial. Yeah, if you have to tell me that,
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I'm pretty sure it's not true. Here's what they wrote in there. Fact check. Fort Denison picks
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no indicator of sea level rise. Hey, guys, don't believe your lying eyes. Sea level is no indication
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of sea level. You have to understand that. Surely you believe in science, right?
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Here's the independent, which doesn't really live up to its name, does it? Sydney sea level image spread
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by climate change deniers debunked. It is not possible to gauge sea level rise simply by comparing
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two images of a location side by side, experts said. Oh, is that what the experts said? Okay,
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well, I better stop doing that then. Here's the Associated Press. Photos of water at Sydney Harbor
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Fort do not refute sea level rise. Now, refute is sort of a matter of opinion, actually. But AP is doing
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a fact check saying, do not believe in that, people. That is wrong to believe. Now, here's
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Reuters. They're the worst. It is not possible to gauge sea level rise simply by comparing two images
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of a location side by side, experts told Reuters, despite claims being made online. And here's Snopes,
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the original left-wing fact checkers. As we have previously reported, these types of oversimplified
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memes are meant to discredit science. They're meant for that? Are you a mind reader? Can you tell me
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what was in the mind of the people and what they're meant to do? And isn't science a process?
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It's not a point of view or an ideology or a person, doesn't it? Isn't science meant to be challenged all
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the time and it's always improving? Here's politi-fact. You get my point here. No, two photos don't reveal
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sea levels. Don't prove climate change is a hoax. And then they say, if your time is short,
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water's edge photographs don't show changes in sea level over time. Global sea levels are rising and
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climate change is the primary reason. They don't show what you think they show, but just trust us,
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okay? Just trust us because we're called politi-fact. And this is what is a little bit dark
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about this. The post was flagged as part of Facebook's efforts to combat false news and
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information on its news feed. Read more about our partnership with Facebook. They'll tell you how
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to think and they'll tell you what to think. Here's USA Today. Like, boy, are they concerned about this
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photo. I mean, I think this photo must be quite powerful if they're so terrified of it.
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But the claim is false. The pictures of the meme don't demonstrate a lack of sea level rise
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over the claimed period of time. The water line at the harbor fluctuates daily due to changing tides
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and the photos don't include any information about the tidal stage at the time the photos were captured.
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So you don't know that they're false is what you're saying. Your theory is that the first photo
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might have been misleading because of tides or whatever, or that there were different tide phases,
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but they don't know that. They're the ones cooking up conspiracies. They're the ones with the
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unproven theories. Really weird. But this is what is served up also positively, if you Google that.
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It's on kids' news. Digital pictures of warmer worlds show water reaching landmarks. That's right
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winger Rupert Murdoch and his news corp propagandizing fear to children. So this is kosher.
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This will be in the first 10 results. Oh my God, the Sydney Harbor is going to be completely flooded.
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Coasts everywhere will be flooded. That is scientifically valid for sure.
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And that won't be fact-checked. We've learned that fact-checkers are funded by the Pentagon,
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which I think is really creepy, and the Secretary of State, basically America's foreign ministry.
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That's really weird that the Pentagon, which is supposed to be fighting bad guys in other
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countries, is fighting ideas in American and Canadian elections. It's really weird. In Canada,
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here are two recent Twitter files written by Matt Taibbi demonstrate this. We know that at Rebel News,
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we were fact-checked by the U.S. Department of Navy, by military contractors at the University of
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Arkansas at Little Rock. It's so weird. And the only way I can explain that, I don't think anyone from
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Rebel News has ever even been to Arkansas, is it was probably just a quid pro quo done for Canada.
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Trudeau probably didn't want to be seen getting Canadian spies to spy on us. So he probably said
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to America, can you spy on Rebel News? And we'll spy on some Americans, and we'll do each other a favor
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and not break our own laws that way. Oh, and here's, speaking of spies, here's CSIS,
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Canada's Security and Intelligence Service. Story in the CBC, of course, climate change is posing
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a serious threat to Canada, and B.C. in particular, Intelligence Service says.
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Significant parts of the province could be lost to rising sea levels, according to CSIS.
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Okay, so you sent out your spies, and this is what they spied. You got some secret sources,
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some secret documents. Canada's spy agency says climate change is threatening the nation's
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prosperity and security, and has identified British Columbia as a region of particular concern.
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A newly released analysis by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, CSIS, that was prepared in
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April 2021 and only recently disclosed to the Canadian press, spells out several concerns presented
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by global warming. They include looming threats to water and food security, Arctic sovereignty,
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and coastal security, the latter of which could greatly impact British Columbians. According to
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the report, rising sea levels could cause irretrievable loss of infrastructure and even entire communities
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with the potential to destroy significant parts of the westernmost province.
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So that photo of the fort in port, in the Sydney port, that was disinformation. But this insane
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fear-mongering, that entire communities will be swallowed up. That's just good spy craft.
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And by the way, I don't think food is at risk because of global warming. The warmer the temperature,
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the better crops grow. I think that it's because of carbon taxes or Trudeau's new scheme of nitrogen
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taxes on farmers. And in Canada, the price of food is, I don't know, double than in the United States
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when you're talking about milk and butter and cheese and poultry and eggs because of our cartels.
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If you actually cared about food security, you would get rid of these marketing boards and cut the price
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of those staples in half. And I will believe any of this is a threat when celebrities and politicians
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stop buying homes on the scene, like Barack Obama's gorgeous Pat in Hawaii, in Al Gore.
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Or when Trudeau stops being Canada's single largest CO2 emitter from all his private jetting.
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That same CSIS that was terrified of the truckers is telling us they're terrified of global warming.
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So we know what they've been busy doing instead of countering Chinese spies. They're worried about
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the truckers. They're worried about global warming. And by the way, of all the places in the world that
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would benefit from global warming, Canada is the best. Even the UN itself says that. I mean,
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it is cold here. And I don't know if you've been to the North. I've been to Inovic. I've been to
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Yellowknife, Whitehorse. I've been to Tuktoyaktuk on the Arctic Ocean. 90% of our country is hard to
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live in. It's so cold. There is no agriculture in the North because the permafrost, the soil
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literally never unfreezes. It was so warm a thousand years ago that there were grapes grown
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in Newfoundland. The Vikings came over. They called it Vinland. If you're ever in Newfoundland,
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I encourage you to visit Lanzo Meadows where the Viking community was founded. It was like the
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Caribbean back then. Imagine how nice that was. As Patrick Moore reminds us, all life loves warmth.
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Most of the huge cities in the world are in the tropics for a reason. Most plant and animal life
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is in the tropics for a reason. It's the most abundant, the most diverse there too. More people
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die from cold than die from heat. There's a reason why, other than Moscow and Edmonton, you don't have
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million person cities in the far North. People don't do well when it's cold year round and there's
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no food to eat and it's just hard. Yeah, Canada could do well under global warming. I wish it was
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happening more than, what, a degree, a century or whatever the pace is. So yeah, CESIS, pretty useless.
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Now, I'm not quite done because I just wanted to tell you those stories,
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but apparently CESIS has changed direction and they know which way the wind is blowing. The greatest
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threat to Canada is no longer global warming or truckers. It's actually China again and I'm glad.
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I'm glad they've decided to pay attention to actually spy threats. I believe China is a threat,
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but I think it's so obvious. But for some reason, CESIS has kept pretty quiet as mice about it ever
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since Trudeau was elected. Think of CESIS like you think of the RCMP. Utterly compromised and
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undermined by Justin Trudeau. Trudeau installed Brenda Luckey at the RCMP to protect him, not to
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enforce the law, but to protect him from having the law enforced against him. David Vigno at the CESIS,
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same thing, was installed by Trudeau to protect him. This photo shows you everything you need to know.
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A photo on the state broadcaster. Look, he's Trudeau's man, the head of CESIS. But the good
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news appears to be that there are still some individual spies, as he says, who are worried
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about, you know, hostile countries, not truckers of global warming. Imagine a spy agency taking
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people and resources off the China beat and putting them on saying, hey, read the Greenpeace website
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and come back with a listicle of the top 10 scary things about global warming. It's so embarrassing
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that grown-ups would do that. Hey, maybe they should hire Greta as a CESIS agent. Let me read the story.
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Foreign interference is the greatest strategic threat facing Canada's national security,
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CESIS says. This is a story in the CBC, so you know it's true. The Canadian Security Intelligence
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Service is calling foreign interference activities by the Chinese government the, quote, greatest
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strategic threat to national security. In the statement provided in French to CBC Radio Canada
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on Friday, a CESIS spokesperson said that this threat comes not from the Chinese population,
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but from the Chinese Communist Party, CCP, which is deploying a strategy aimed at geopolitical gains
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on economic, technological, political, and military fronts. Quote, to do so, it uses all the state
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powers at its disposal to carry out activities that directly threaten the national security and
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sovereignty of the country, said the unnamed spokesperson. Yeah, well, no one said and no one
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thought that the threat to Canada was from ordinary Chinese citizens. It's obviously the basic
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dictatorship that's the threat, and the basic dictatorship is actually the only part that Trudeau
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says he deeply admires. There's a level of admiration I actually have for China, because their basic
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dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say, we need to
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go green as fast as we need to start, you know, investing in solar. I mean, there is a flexibility that
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I know Stephen Harper must dream about of having a dictatorship that he could do everything he wanted.
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So yeah, thanks Officer Obvious of CSIS, but I guess he's afraid of being called racist.
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Now, CSIS is not the only spy agency that is worried about China infiltrating Canada. The US
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deep state has its problems too, but not enough to bury their concerns about China. Look at this
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story also in the CBC. It's almost like they're paying attention now. US ran secret probe into China's
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operations in Canada, new book alleges. The United States ran a secret probe into national security
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threats posed by Chinese overseas operations. The two alarming conclusions about Canada alleges a new
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book co-authored by a former RCMP and military intelligence official. The book says the project
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codenamed Operation Dragon Lord led to an unnerving takeaway that Beijing's activities in Canada
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represented a security threat to the United States. Wow. And did you see this just a few days ago? Did you
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read about this? Did you see this in the Globe and Mail or the CBC? The AUKUS Alliance, AU, K, US,
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Australia, UK, and United States. There used to be something called CANZUC, and there was all these
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different acronyms. Have you heard of the five I's? That's Canada, the United States, Australia, New Zealand,
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and Britain. Those were like the super friends. There's NATO, which had a ton of countries, but the
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inside circle was the five I's. Canada, the United States, Australia, New Zealand, and the UK. That's
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gone. It's not gone. But the cool kids have set up their own club. They call it AUKUS. It's only got
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three countries. Australia, US, and UK. Here's Rishi Sunak, the new prime minister of the UK, tweeting
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about it. Protecting our people, defending our values, guaranteeing our long-term security.
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AUKUS. Canada's not in there. Neither is New Zealand. Jacinda Ardern and Justin Trudeau have
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taken both countries out of their American orbit and put us in a Chinese orbit. You know, I'm a
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little bit tired of the racism card being played by Trudeau. It's all he has. He's into the feminism
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card and the transphobia card. But the liberals aren't tired of it yet. Here's Gerald Butts. He keeps
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making the same Chinese food tweet. Here he is two years ago. He said, we're getting close to the
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point where Bob Fyfe or Steve Chase at the Globe and Mail could see someone having dim sum and turn
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it into a Globe and Mail front page. Ha ha ha ha. Yeah. Here he is just trying that line out again this
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year. Pretty soon, the press will be auditing Uber Eats records for excessive Chinese food orders.
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How much Golden Palace is too much Golden Palace? Ha ha ha ha. Yeah. Gerald Butts keeps making
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Chinese food jokes, but you're the racist one. But of course, the greatest victims of Chinese
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dictators and their infiltration in Canada are Chinese Canadians. And the greatest victims of
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Chinese dictators in the world are Chinese people themselves. Mao murdered more Chinese people than
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Hitler killed. Estimates are up to 85 million people killed by Mao. They're Chinese people.
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Look at this story in the CBC. Alleged meddling by China's government goes deeper than elections.
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Hong Kong pro-democracy group in Canada. And here's the point. The people in Canada being bullied and
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victimized are Chinese Canadians. Sorry, Gerald Butts. Sorry, your racism card doesn't work.
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Sherry Wong says Chinese poor Canadians deal with surveillance intimidation from Chinese government.
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And here's the story. Quoting Sherry Wong, executive director of the Alliance of Canada-Hong Kong. Let me
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read what she says. Wong, whose organization describes itself as a pro-democracy group that seeks to empower
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Chinese Hong Kong community groups to take political action, says foreign interference extends outside of
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elections. Quote, we have seen a lot of different types of interference into Canadian society, Wong said.
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I think the most obvious one would be surveillance and intimidation of dissidents and diaspora members.
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We often live in a culture of fear, worrying that if we anger Beijing, then our families back home would be threatened.
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She added diaspora members are worried that if they voice their concerns and their job promotions,
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their businesses, their social relationships would be at risk as well.
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Wong says those concerns are also common for Chinese people born in Canada.
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Trudeau. It's getting bad, isn't it? But you know what? I'm still betting on Trudeau.
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Why would he confess? Why would he admit doing anything?
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Well, who's going to make them? The Supreme Court?
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They haven't even heard a single lockdown case yet. They're too busy.
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Is the justice minister going to hold them to account?
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He already got rid of Jody Wilson-Raybould because she said no.
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Now he's got a yes man named David Lomatti. Who's going to stop him?
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Brenda Luckey of the RCMP? David Vigno of CSIS? He's more worried about global warming?
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I admire what Bob Fyfe and Steve Chase are doing these days.
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But how many, as Stalin said, how many divisions does the Pope have?
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Trudeau has already told you that is all he respects.
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I am impressed with some of the reporting on this issue, but so what?
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I don't know, maybe it scares some liberal backbenchers,
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but Jagmeet Singh is fully committed to propping up Trudeau.
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And congrats to that one CSIS agent who's becoming a real whistleblower.
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Not by the CSIS or the RCMP, but by Chinese intelligence.
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Show me where in eight years Trudeau has ever been held to account.
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Well, if you know anything about hockey, amateur hockey in Canada, many parents do,
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you know that in Canada there are girls who play on boys' teams.
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But that only lasts for a certain period of time until the players get to a certain age,
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after which point in time the physical differences of these athletes after puberty become too pronounced,
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It's in fact right to keep the sportsmanship alive.
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And I think that same sexual difference, the difference between the sexes, is pronounced,
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In some sports, I'm not sure how big the difference is, but I remember a few months ago
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when the British singer, commentator, pundit, and amateur athlete declared that for one day
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he identified as a woman, and then he went ahead and broke every British weightlifting record for women,
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and then he said, I'm not a woman anymore, I'm a bloke again,
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making the point that although he wouldn't be a top competitor amongst men,
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he could be the strongest woman in the UK just by declaring him to be that.
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I think that powerlifting is one of the sports where the sex difference is probably the most pronounced,
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at least at the elite level, and so it is the least sportsmanlike to have transgender male-to-female athletes
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competing against biological female competitors.
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That's my point of view, but let's talk to someone who is actually a competitive powerlifter.
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We're joined now via Skype from London, Ontario, by April Hutchinson,
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Thanks for taking the time to come on the show.
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Is there any difference between powerlifting and weightlifting?
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So, the difference between weightlifting, which is actually in the Olympics, powerlifting consists of three lifts,
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Basically, you have three attempts at each lift during a competition,
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and whatever your best lift in all those three lifts gets totaled together for an overall sum,
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and that's basically which will give you a first place, second, or your placing within the competition.
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Now, I can imagine that performance-enhancing drugs are screened,
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because that, especially in powerlifting and weightlifting, there is a culture of people who are juiced,
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and then there's the natty, the natural culture.
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And I suppose both of them, if everyone's on the same, you know, terms,
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they can both be competitive, but you have to have a level playing field.
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Is the Canadian Powerlifting Union, do they screen for performance-enhancing drugs?
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There are federations that you can enter, for example, the Canadian Powerlifting League,
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which they have non-tested leagues, but specifically the Canadian Powerlifting Union is a tested federation.
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So that means when I go to compete, like I went to Worlds last year,
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and I got drug tested after my competition, and there's also out-of-meat testing, so very random.
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You're put into an athletic pool in which they can show up at your workplace, your gym,
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kind of like surprise element of getting tested, right?
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And I think that makes sense because, again, if someone was taking performance-enhancing drugs
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and someone was not, it would ruin the sportsmanship of it.
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Like you say, there are leagues where people can do what they like, and everyone knows that.
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I would imagine that the natural athletes would be in the same league because it would just be too unfair.
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I'm just guessing this. I'm not a power lifter myself.
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And the reason I ask about this is because it seems to me the whole idea of having a natural league
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without, you know, performance enhancements is you're trying to keep it fair.
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And when a man says, I identify as a woman, and a man has a different muscle structure, bone structure, weight,
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every single thing about him is different and has been his whole life,
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maybe he decided to identify as a woman a few weeks or months ago,
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I would imagine that that degree of physical unfairness would dwarf anything
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that someone on a performance-enhancing drug would have.
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It just strikes me as the exact same unfairness that you're changing the terms.
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Everyone else is a natural athlete on the same footing,
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and then you have a man saying, oh, I'm a girl for today,
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With my union, the Canadian Powerlifting Union, right now,
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I'm not sure if you read up on it, but there's basically no transgender policy.
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Like, there is, but the only thing they have to do to compete is to show up at a competition
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with their passport that says what sex they are, either male or female.
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So, you know, so this transgender athlete in my category basically has a passport
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So, I mean, and we all know how easily that can be obtained to switch over your passport.
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It's a couple of doctor's notes and psychological assessments.
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Now, I did have a phone call with the International Powerlifting Federation.
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They do have a more extensive transgender policy,
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which is basically monitoring of testosterone levels.
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Now, the monitoring, I believe, would have to be over a matter of a four-year period.
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It does, it is a little bit more difficult for a trans-identifying athlete to compete.
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But again, like I asked the doctors today, the chief medical doctor, I said,
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well, what about the muscle mass, the lung capacity, even just the grip strength, right?
00:27:14.500
So, specifically, the powerlifter who I competed against or was going to compete against transitioned at 22 years old.
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So, full-blown puberty, a full-grown biological male.
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I mean, I'm just trying to think of Mike Tyson or some enormous man who had a certain size and a bone and muscle.
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Well, sure, okay, he could transition, but there's no way that's not going to be an inherent genetic advantage over a natural woman.
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You know, we were talking to Linda Blade, Coach Blade, about this a few weeks ago.
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And what brought it to our attention was a court case where the judge said,
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oh, well, there are disadvantages to being a male-to-female trans athlete as well,
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including none of his reasons made sense to me other than for politics.
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Well, there's the risk of suicide and depression and the inability to find a gym that can accommodate you.
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And I thought, those may well all be things, by the way, but they have nothing to do with the essential competition,
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All of those were political accoutrements, not the fairness of the sport.
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So, let me ask you, you said you started talking about a competitor.
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You said you were going to compete against, you're using the pronoun her.
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You said you were going to compete against someone.
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So, at nationals, the nationals were held in February this year,
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So, I competed in my category between 40 and 50.
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We do have categories for people called master's categories.
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I'm turning 47, so I lifted between 40 and 50-year-olds.
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I also signed up for the open category, which is ages 20 up to age 39,
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in which the trans-identifying athlete was competing in.
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I didn't show up as my way to protest and to boycott.
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I do know that Linda Blade and ICFS were there to protest.
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But, yeah, that's all I could think about doing, right, at that time,
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is to not show up, just to show that I definitely did not agree with that.
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And how did the trans-athlete do in that competition?
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This athlete also is number two in Canada for the open class,
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also takes the Alberta bench record and deadlift record.
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I mean, I started by mentioning Zuby, who as a joke said,
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And I think it's only a matter of time before men who are uncompetitive against men
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just say, well, I can get attention and kudos and I can win.
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And this is so politically acceptable and normalized now.
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And so it's not just coming in third or second.
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Like, how long would it be before first, second, and third are all trans athletes?
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Like, as the case of Zuby shows, you could be ranked, you know, 1,000 on the men's list.
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You could be ranked 10,000, but you would be, and this is not a disparagement of women.
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How long before there are no women left in women powerlifting?
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Because you've got a dozen former blokes just seeing who is the, you know, that old joke,
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the tallest short guy, who's the strongest of the weak men who've moved over to the women's league.
00:31:10.560
Like, it can't be long before other grifters say, well, this is how I'm going to come in
00:31:16.420
I think we're watching the sunset of women's sports.
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And that's, this is the thing that's very disheartening is I actually had a conference
00:31:26.580
call with the IPF, the Powerlifting Federation president this morning with three chief medical
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And he actually said to me, well, you know, there's only one transgender in your, in your
00:31:42.260
So it was almost like this, let's just brush it off until like, there's a whole team.
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And I said to him like, well, is that what we need?
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Like, are we going to like, are we going to wait for that to happen?
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Because if we don't set precedence now, if we don't do something now in 20 years or maybe
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even 10 years, there will not, there will be no female sports.
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And I thought that was a very weak, weak approach.
00:32:05.880
And, and just going back on that note that you said about the judge and they ruled about,
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you know, the high risk suicide with transgenders.
00:32:13.300
Um, I actually wrote a letter to my union expressing to them, you know, I'm a recovering
00:32:21.040
Um, I got sober before COVID as powerlifting literally helped save my life and helped me
00:32:27.520
Alcoholism is actually a medical, medical condition.
00:32:30.820
Um, so I feel like they're putting away, like putting aside, say my mental health issues,
00:32:35.960
all the other women's mental health issues, because we all lift for a reason.
00:32:40.100
Um, there actually is high suicide rates in general with athletes because we are overachievers.
00:32:46.340
You know, if we don't make podium, who knows if someone might feel suicidal, right?
00:32:52.820
And I just feel like we've just like told us all to be quiet.
00:32:59.420
I've been reprimanded for speaking out against this.
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I've been actually warned by my federation, be quiet, stop posting stuff on social media.
00:33:08.600
Um, you know, and that judge's rationale is basically forcing you and the other female
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competitors to be part of this athlete's therapy.
00:33:19.960
And, and of course we don't know why this trans, so, so you are not there.
00:33:28.340
You're a supporting actress in the transgender athlete show, a reality show about his life
00:33:35.080
that you have, your part is to be therapy for him.
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I think this whole thing is, is a kind of therapy.
00:33:42.040
Now you say your protest has been social media and other media.
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And, and at the moment you declined to compete.
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I, I wonder why more women athletes don't do that.
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Is it because they're not thinking politically?
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Like, why is it that so many women are going along with this?
00:34:08.060
Even in the case of Leah Thomas, the swimming transgender athlete, changing in a changing
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I'm saying he, cause he's still got his twig and berries.
00:34:19.200
He's standing naked in the change room, observing the women in the change room.
00:34:25.100
There are athletic clubs on campuses where the athletes are, you know, two to a room
00:34:31.340
and they're assigning women to travel with male transgender to male to female transgender
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I can't believe what female athletes are putting up with.
00:34:43.940
Is it out of, are they afraid of being called bigots?
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Cause I would imagine you could shut this down if you had a general strike at a, at a
00:34:54.780
If every woman simply stood there and folded their arms and said, we're not going to compete
00:34:59.480
against this unfairness, you would break the back of it, but you need a union.
00:35:03.560
Like it's called the power lifting union, but you need a union of members in the union.
00:35:10.660
It's a, so power lifting is an individual sport.
00:35:13.580
So it's not like we're a team, like a rugby team where we can all just not show up.
00:35:18.180
It's obviously to everyone's, you know, personal choice, but there's a bunch of different
00:35:23.780
There's the fact that some people, it doesn't affect them.
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So they're like, well, if it doesn't affect me and my lifting, why should I even get involved?
00:35:33.080
We also have, I mean, there are a fair amount of power lifters in the union that are LGBTQ
00:35:42.600
And I'm all for inclusiveness, but when it comes down to sports, I think they're getting
00:35:46.800
I think they're, because obviously they want to be included.
00:35:59.180
We're not talking about, I don't think gender should even have been brought into this in
00:36:03.580
But, and I think that's, again, for me, like I told you, I posted some stuff on my social
00:36:09.180
media, I literally tweeted, save women's sports, those three words.
00:36:15.360
My federation took a screenshot of that and said basically that that is hate speech.
00:36:26.520
Now, I hear that you were, made an appearance on the largest cable news talk show in America.
00:36:36.320
Whenever I go on that show, my phone blows up afterwards because so many people see it.
00:36:40.180
I mean, when you, when three, four, five million people watch a show, you can really tell, here's
00:36:45.000
a, here's a clip of your appearance on that show.
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We're basically every emotion except for happy.
00:37:09.380
I just don't, I know you're not supposed to criticize trans anybody, but here's a guy
00:37:25.280
I don't even know if it's so much, uh, the person, right?
00:37:30.240
So at the end of the day, the policy is allowing him to compete.
00:37:37.460
Did other athletes reach out to you with their stories?
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Have you been interviewed by CBC, CTV, Global News, or other Canadian media?
00:37:58.160
I took a screenshot of all the people like that messaged me.
00:38:01.440
I mean, from all around, like, especially America, but, um, just like a crazy amount of
00:38:10.880
I've had actually people, I had a trans identifying, uh, male actually reach out to me and say,
00:38:16.280
I am so sorry for what is happening to your sport.
00:38:22.480
I mean, just everyone I've actually never had maybe one negative message, um, about
00:38:29.340
since I've started this kind of platform, uh, fighting for fairness and women's sports.
00:38:36.060
Um, and again, going back to the other thing, um, I mean, I think the people, I've had a lot
00:38:42.980
But I know a lot of people feel the same way as myself, but they just, they're too afraid
00:38:53.540
I think that Tucker takes a real interest in Canada, which I think is good because sometimes,
00:38:58.360
uh, it takes a foreigner to care about something before Canadians do.
00:39:05.200
Have you been interviewed by CBC, CTV, Global, the Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, any of the
00:39:14.920
Well, I, I don't see CBC interviewing me, um, probably cause they know we're right.
00:39:22.280
But have they, but you know, in, in fairness to them, have, have they, uh, have, have, because
00:39:32.600
You are an athlete, um, you're, you're taking a tolerant view towards the other side.
00:39:38.220
You've said you are tolerant of LGBTQ and, and, and you're not hostile.
00:39:45.480
You would seem to be a perfect CBC interviewee.
00:39:50.380
And you're saying they've, they've just never reached out.
00:39:52.360
They've never talked to you, even though you've gone on the biggest American show, they're
00:40:03.580
Um, but no, I, I actually said that I'm more than willing to go on any media platform to,
00:40:10.080
to share my, to share my side and to stand up for women's rights.
00:40:19.880
I just want our message to be heard and, you know, yeah, I mean, I'm more than willing
00:40:27.960
I'm sure you are, but they don't want to hear your point of view.
00:40:30.660
Uh, is there a place where people can get in touch with you or follow you or, or, or,
00:40:40.440
Yeah, I have, um, I mean, my, my Twitter, I just started a couple months ago since I actually
00:40:45.240
started this whole, um, working with save women sports.
00:40:48.660
Uh, so it's literally, um, I think it's under Lee underscore, underscore Christina.
00:40:54.240
And then I also have my Instagram, which is basically just my name, April Hutchinson.
00:40:58.900
Well, we'll put links to those underneath this video so folks can follow along because it
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sounds like you're doing, uh, competing, which is very exciting, but you're also standing
00:41:08.940
up for, for women's rights and first the whole idea of sport itself.
00:41:12.700
Well, listen, what a pleasure to talk with you.
00:41:14.620
And I'm glad to hear true North interviewed you.
00:41:17.040
They're good people too, but like us, they're independent.
00:41:22.040
And so I, I'm not surprised they talked with you.
00:41:25.220
They're great people over there, but you know, um, it, I find it disappointing that the big
00:41:30.800
media have not talked to you and I don't think they will because I don't think they are truly
00:41:35.720
I don't think, I don't think they care about women's sports.
00:41:39.260
I think in the pecking order, um, they would care about women's sports against white, straight
00:41:47.540
But when it comes to the hierarchy of political correctness, I'm afraid you're not in top
00:41:55.920
April, I've enjoyed talking with you and congratulations on going on Tucker.
00:41:59.000
And if more news happens, if you spot things or something good or bad happens, don't be shy
00:42:10.140
April Hutchinson, a competitor in the Canadian powerlifting union.
00:42:29.480
Lynn says, I, like many others, thought you promised to help the Cooch protesters with their
00:42:34.580
What is happening to these four in jail shouldn't be happening in Canada, and especially in Alberta.
00:42:39.220
The rebel needs to be putting pressure on Smith and Shandro to get this taken care of
00:42:43.320
because they are in the remand system and they are not even receiving the rights they
00:42:48.000
One of them had to cut out the toes of his shoes because they didn't give him shoes to
00:42:55.520
I think the rebel could put on pressure by just reporting on the situation.
00:43:01.340
Rebel News and also the Democracy Fund, between the two entities, are defending approximately
00:43:09.740
The most prominent case are three truckers in Lethbridge, including a town councillor in
00:43:19.800
And I've had the pleasure of meeting all three men that attended at court in Lethbridge.
00:43:25.500
Just today, literally today, the Democracy Fund is defending another trucker protester who
00:43:33.580
was accused of swerving his car dangerously towards a policeman.
00:43:41.120
I think it was a lie propagated by Jason Kenney to try and demonize the truckers as violent.
00:43:46.160
So he's being represented by the Democracy Fund.
00:43:49.300
There's a number of others who are being represented either by Rebel or the Democracy Fund.
00:43:54.460
You are referring to four truckers who have been charged with conspiracy to commit murder.
00:44:01.420
And the question is, is that something contemplated by Rebel's offer to help people in court?
00:44:08.960
We were offering to help people who were civilly disobedient.
00:44:12.500
But the charges of conspiracy to commit murder feel outside that scope.
00:44:19.260
Now, I have, through a middle person, middleman, offered to meet with the families to talk,
00:44:24.820
to learn more about the case and to review disclosure, because if it is just a pack of lies
00:44:31.440
designed to demonize the men, and if it's so obviously just a bunch of lies,
00:44:39.560
But I remember when I personally got on the phone to the men in that saloon on the phone,
00:44:44.800
I said, we will defend you against charges for your protest.
00:44:48.920
But that did not include conspiracy to commit murder.
00:44:53.320
There's just no way I would have, that my agreement to help the men charged with the
00:44:58.080
peaceful protest would cover conspiracy to commit murder.
00:45:04.100
Unless, the one asterisk being, if it's such a clear, fake frame up just designed to demonize
00:45:12.500
And I've asked for more information in that regard.
00:45:16.520
But if I receive information that convinces me that this conspiracy to commit murder is
00:45:24.420
just fake, the charges are fake, it's all trumped up, then I certainly would consider defending
00:45:32.080
But let me close as I open, which is between Rebel News and the Democracy Fund, the two
00:45:48.740
But I think I might have told you we also turned down a biker gang that asked for financial
00:45:55.320
Sorry, we are not providing financial help to hire a lawyer for a biker gang.
00:46:07.140
But I'm saying I need more information before I can confirm in my mind that it is something
00:46:14.160
God forbid, may it never happen, and it didn't happen.
00:46:16.780
But if someone was shot and killed, I'm not going to defend a guy for murder.
00:46:21.900
And I'm not equating the two, but I'm giving you an extreme example of something that would
00:46:26.860
never have been contemplated and would never have been done.
00:46:30.260
Richard says, I would like you to ask a question of Pierre Polyev, a question of the MSM
00:46:38.500
Mr. Polyev, if you win the next election, are you going to conscript Canadians to help
00:46:50.660
I don't know his opinion on that, but I would be shocked.
00:46:54.620
I would say that is less than a one in a thousand chance he would say yes.
00:47:04.500
Now, maybe some Canadian soldiers would be deployed to train Ukrainian soldiers in the
00:47:16.320
You use the word conscript, which is to use the force of law to compel people to join the
00:47:22.240
military, to go and fight and possibly die in Ukraine.
00:47:29.940
So I, I'm, and believe me, if I had a sit down interview with Pierre Polyev, which I don't
00:47:37.100
know if I will, will get, I would not make that one of my top 10 questions.
00:47:40.800
I just would, I might ask him about Ukraine in general, but I'm not going to ask about
00:47:43.720
conscription because it's so unlikely to happen.
00:47:46.980
Stephen says, hey, Ezra, why do you not have a journalist in the maritime provinces?
00:47:50.780
All we have is the MSN, which I obviously don't trust.
00:47:57.700
If I had my way, I'd have someone in the Atlantic.
00:48:00.080
If I had my way, I'd have someone in the North.
00:48:01.800
I'd have someone in the prairies, not just Alberta, but Manitoba's a skyscraper.
00:48:05.200
We did have someone, but she had to withdraw for personal reasons.
00:48:10.220
Having Drea in Vancouver and having Alexa in Montreal has been a real benefit to our company,
00:48:17.720
We simply do not receive ad money from Facebook, or sorry, pardon me, from YouTube.
00:48:23.180
We do not receive government money from Trudeau.
00:48:26.220
There are many sources of income that are banned because of political correctness, so we have
00:48:33.320
And it's a miracle we're able to maintain a company of over 40 people.
00:48:38.780
To be able to do that without ads, without government money is, frankly, unique in Canada.
00:48:43.860
I just don't think we have the budget to roll out a person in the Atlantic.
00:48:49.320
We have been out there to cover stories before.
00:48:51.980
And the Democracy Fund has helped a church in the lockdown.
00:48:58.060
We don't have a full-timer, and I just don't think we can afford it.
00:49:03.640
Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,