Rebel News Podcast - July 11, 2024


EZRA LEVANT ｜ National conservatism is all about borders and citizenship


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 7 minutes

Words per Minute

163.42372

Word Count

11,039

Sentence Count

699

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

41


Summary

What kind of conservatism should we adopt for the next decade? Ezra Levenkamp shares his thoughts on the latest controversy surrounding the National Conservatism Conference in Washington, D.C. and the attempts to shut down the event by the mayor of Bruegelburg.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 What kind of conservatism should we follow for the next decade?
00:00:04.000 This is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:05.960 You're ready for freedom!
00:00:08.940 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:00:20.480 Oh my god, it's a scorcher today. It's going up to 36 degrees Celsius.
00:00:24.180 I'm in Washington, D.C. You know, there's a neighborhood here called Foggy Bottom.
00:00:28.060 It's so steamy that they called it Foggy Bottom, thank God, for air conditioning.
00:00:32.940 I'm here because there's a conservative conference called National Conservatism.
00:00:38.360 And, you know, I don't go to conferences that often.
00:00:41.840 And if I do, sometimes I don't do any podcasts or TV from them because, you know, it doesn't really lend itself to that medium.
00:00:50.240 We interview thinkers from time to time.
00:00:52.660 We always have a guest on the Ezra LeVant Show, or we almost always do.
00:00:55.760 But I think this conservative conference is a little bit different.
00:01:00.140 It's got my noggin jogging a bit.
00:01:02.040 I'd like to share with you some ideas.
00:01:03.680 I'm standing in front of the White House because the conference is just a few blocks from here,
00:01:07.400 and I thought I would get out of that hotel room and into the heat.
00:01:11.220 So let me share with you some of my thoughts.
00:01:13.200 And I don't know if you're thinking about these things, too, but here's what's got me thinking.
00:01:17.680 Like I say, conferences are good, but they're limited for my purposes.
00:01:23.720 Sometimes you can get an interesting interview with someone there that you can't normally.
00:01:27.840 You can encounter new ideas.
00:01:30.780 You can catch up with old allies.
00:01:34.580 This conference called National Conservatism, they had a conference in Brussels, Belgium a few months ago that I was thinking of going to.
00:01:42.540 In the end, I didn't.
00:01:43.720 But it was absolutely incredible what happened.
00:01:45.880 So these are fairly mainstream right-wingers, like Nigel Farage, Suella Braverman.
00:01:51.800 Today there were four senators, four U.S. senators on stage together.
00:01:56.560 Like if you've got four members of the U.S. Senate, whether they're Democrat or Republican, that is establishment.
00:02:03.740 That is mainstream.
00:02:04.680 So this National Conservatism Conference is not some wacko extremist thing if you've got that many senators.
00:02:10.420 But nonetheless, this same group, when it met a few months ago in Brussels, Belgium, police actually raided it.
00:02:20.340 Police tried to shut it down.
00:02:22.100 There was a prosecutor, just a madman, that tried to shut it down.
00:02:26.080 Let me show you some of the crazy footage from that.
00:02:29.180 Top story.
00:02:30.440 Controversy continues to plague the National Conservatism Conference in Brussels after attempts were made to shut it down yesterday.
00:02:40.280 The local mayor has called Emir Kir and he opposed all that was going on, claiming he issued the order to police to ensure public security.
00:02:51.080 Well, Nigel Farage was a keynote speaker at the event and he was on stage as police arrived to try and close it down.
00:02:59.020 The police are outside my door as I speak.
00:03:01.160 They will not let anybody else in.
00:03:03.100 There are three police there.
00:03:04.680 They have an order to close down this event.
00:03:07.600 And when more police gather, that's exactly what they'll do.
00:03:10.360 No alternative opinion allowed.
00:03:12.540 This is the updated new form of communism.
00:03:14.760 And you know what?
00:03:16.200 If anything ever, ever made me think that Brexit was the right thing to do, it's the events here in Brussels today.
00:03:24.660 Well, the Belgian Prime Minister labelled the moves unacceptable, a sentiment echoed by the British government who told GB News.
00:03:31.960 It's unclear exactly what's happened here, but the scenes will worry anyone who believes in free speech.
00:03:37.400 Free society should be confident enough to allow free debate.
00:03:41.020 Now, on the whole, the reaction to this around the world has been outrage with the mayor for thinking that he had the right to close down this event.
00:03:50.780 And there are plenty of Brexiteers who sort of follow what Nigel Farage said yesterday and said that this is a good reason to leave the European Union.
00:03:59.260 One element of this, which I find quite fascinating, is in the UK, we've had such a controversy over the European Court of Human Rights.
00:04:06.340 But there is an argument, lawyers have been suggesting, that some of the Conservative MPs who were there, for example, Suella Braverman, who had to stop speaking because of the police turning up, she could potentially sue the Brussels mayor under the rules of the European Court of Human Rights, the organisation which she has been so keen for Britain to leave.
00:04:25.940 So there's all sorts of interesting elements playing out in this saga here.
00:04:30.380 Yeah, who says conferences are boring, eh?
00:04:33.320 Well, it's that same group that was meeting here today and yesterday in Washington.
00:04:38.960 So I thought, well, I better come down, although I think it's less likely they'd be raided because America is the land of the First Amendment.
00:04:45.400 Under this White House, there's no certainty on that.
00:04:49.260 As you know, they raided Donald Trump's own home in Mar-a-Lago with guns drawn.
00:04:54.460 I mean, it's insane, the weaponization of the government against Trump and his allies.
00:04:58.560 You have to be careful when you go to a conference in the United States for the reason of the First Amendment and that there are radical groups that meet all the time with positions that may be shocking and they're allowed to do it because America is free.
00:05:13.000 So for being a Canuck, going down to the U.S. to a ideological conference that talks about things like borders and immigration, you want to be a little bit careful.
00:05:21.900 And I think I was. And I want to talk to you about what I think this conference stands for and what we could do with the ideas in Canada.
00:05:32.180 National conservatism sort of sounds obvious, but what is it not?
00:05:38.120 Well, it's not transnational. It's not global.
00:05:42.180 There's a lot of wonderful things that come to us from transnational globalism.
00:05:48.240 It's so much easier to fly around the world. It's so much easier to be a tourist.
00:05:52.660 We can buy and sell things from faraway countries that improve our lives and lower our costs.
00:05:58.640 There's a big downside to that, but the upside is places like Walmart or Best Buy where you can get amazing things at amazing prices.
00:06:06.520 If you look at where they're all made, you'll see made in China.
00:06:10.620 And so I think transnational conservatism would say anything that's good for the GDP is good.
00:06:16.880 Anything that reduces the cost of the consumer is good.
00:06:21.140 But if you're paying a few cents less for something at Best Buy or Walmart, but the job that made it is now in China instead of in Ontario, British Columbia, Alberta, Ohio, if you shipped a job overseas and the net benefit to yourself is a few pennies less on your consumer goods, was it worth it?
00:06:45.240 Transnational conservatives would say, yes, we've got, you know, the consumer is the winner and our GDP is higher.
00:06:52.840 But a national conservative would say, what price did we pay for that?
00:06:57.500 A transnational conservative might say, bring in cheap foreign labor to pick our crops and save us a penny for every apple that's picked.
00:07:08.280 OK, that's true. But you're driving down wages in your own community for your own people.
00:07:13.200 Is it worth it to have an apple for a few cents less?
00:07:17.240 I think that's one of the differences between transnational conservatism and national conservatism.
00:07:23.940 In Canada, we see this with the temporary foreign workers program that, first of all, isn't very temporary, but you have hundreds of thousands.
00:07:31.240 I think the last time I checked, it was 600,000 foreigners in our country working for wages that Canadians cannot bear.
00:07:40.880 OK, so your Tim Hortons is a little cheaper and every fast food outlet in Canada is a little bit cheaper.
00:07:46.940 But so we have youth unemployment. Is is that the tradeoff?
00:07:51.020 So your double double is a few pennies less.
00:07:55.620 One of the things I heard at this conference was Senator Josh Hawley talking about how he backs unions.
00:08:03.300 When I was growing up, unions equaled left wing, conservatives equaled capitalist businessmen.
00:08:09.680 But I'm not sure if that's true anymore.
00:08:12.420 I just don't think it necessarily equates that the owner of a company is my ally as a conservative.
00:08:18.320 In fact, I think companies have been some of the most pernicious political actors around.
00:08:22.440 Another thing that I heard yesterday when I arrived was very interesting.
00:08:27.220 We talk about NATO.
00:08:29.020 And if you remember, when NATO was formed after the Second World War, some diplomat joked in shorthand,
00:08:35.940 saying the whole purpose was to keep the Germans down, the Yanks in and the Russians out.
00:08:43.240 Think about that.
00:08:43.920 It was to protect Europe from a real threat, namely the Soviet Union and the resurgence of Germany that had already started two world wars.
00:08:50.920 But now NATO is larger than ever.
00:08:54.400 In fact, by coincidence, NATO is having their meeting in Washington the same time as his conference.
00:08:59.540 A whole bunch of new little countries have joined the NATO alliance.
00:09:03.820 But as was asked yesterday, don't mind me, it's 30 plus degrees out here.
00:09:07.960 I'm a little hot in my suit.
00:09:11.060 Is having Finland join NATO really giving us a new ally?
00:09:17.960 And by us, I don't just mean America.
00:09:19.860 I mean Canada, too.
00:09:20.920 Because Article 5, I believe, of the NATO treaty says an attack on one is equivalent to an attack on all.
00:09:27.980 And all have to respond.
00:09:29.040 So Finland, which for decades has been a tiny, neutral country right next to Russia.
00:09:36.620 A country that has historically been invaded by Russia.
00:09:40.240 Good people, the Finns.
00:09:42.340 But they gave away decades of neutrality to join NATO.
00:09:46.240 Now, they're not bringing an awesome air force and tanks and other equipment.
00:09:50.340 They're not going to help us here in Canada.
00:09:51.980 What they've really done is become a new tripwire.
00:09:54.820 So that would drag us into a war.
00:09:58.200 Now, maybe you think that's a good idea, but I'm not sure if that's the original purpose of NATO.
00:10:03.160 NATO was a defensive alliance.
00:10:05.340 Keep the Germans down, the Yanks in, and the Russians out.
00:10:07.580 How does bringing in a ring of new NATO countries around Russia help with that?
00:10:12.920 So a globalist, transnationalist, expansionist conservative would say, right on.
00:10:18.780 Someone else is on our team.
00:10:20.600 Whereas a nationalist conservative would say, what are we doing tying ourselves in with a bunch of little countries around Russia that may trigger a war?
00:10:30.140 That's just something I heard at the conference yesterday.
00:10:35.420 Other things I heard, I went to a panel discussion, as you know, on immigration.
00:10:40.620 And of course, we know about the driving down the wages and the crime and how more than 30 percent of all the women who are trapped across the border are raped.
00:10:51.440 It's absolutely shocking.
00:10:52.680 But I forgot about another big player in the cross-border trafficking business, and that is drugs.
00:10:59.900 Bring in fentanyl that kills tens of thousands of Americans every year.
00:11:05.620 It might even be higher than that.
00:11:07.180 And that happens in Canada, too, by the way.
00:11:09.800 So all these issues combined, you can see the difference of opinion between, say, an open borders libertarian approach or a strong borders national conservative approach.
00:11:21.920 With no borders, you're going to have poverty, you're going to have social discord, you're going to have drugs.
00:11:28.180 If I have to sum up what national conservatism is, I would say it's borders and citizenship.
00:11:35.700 And I think we're really missing both of those in Canada.
00:11:39.000 For the longest time, we said Canada had the longest undefended border in the world.
00:11:44.760 And that's because we're next to the best people, Americans.
00:11:48.820 We don't need a border.
00:11:49.980 We're related to them.
00:11:51.080 We speak the same language as them.
00:11:52.500 Our culture is the same as them.
00:11:53.940 Our economies are intertwined.
00:11:56.420 Our tourism is back and forth.
00:11:58.620 It's really the same place with a rather imaginary border.
00:12:03.720 But that's changed.
00:12:05.320 Not only have tens of thousands of foreign bogus migrants from the States come up to Canada.
00:12:12.520 Those were typically people that were going to be deported from the States.
00:12:15.180 They came up to Canada through Roxham Road.
00:12:18.020 But some atrocious Canadians have gone into the U.S. to commit nefarious acts.
00:12:24.880 And that's not new.
00:12:26.260 You remember the Millennium Bomber wanted to cross from B.C. and blow up LAX airports on the Millennium.
00:12:33.100 We need a border now.
00:12:35.720 And we need to revalue our citizenship.
00:12:39.140 I think that's what National Conservative means as a political platform.
00:12:44.500 Reducing immigration to people we choose.
00:12:47.460 Not just anyone who is an obviously fake asylum seeker.
00:12:51.400 Strengthening our military to use to defend ourselves, not for faraway missions.
00:12:59.100 Social cohesion, not bringing in such masses of people that we destabilize neighborhoods, bring crime waves, and recently Hamas hate marches.
00:13:08.500 Strengthening borders and citizenship makes it valuable to be a Canadian, not something that's sold off by fake diploma mills that aren't really selling college courses.
00:13:20.280 They're selling roundabout ways to immigrate to Canada.
00:13:24.080 That's what there's 900,000 student visas in Canada for.
00:13:29.040 They're not studying chemistry at the University of Guelph.
00:13:32.780 They're all in these fake colleges studying fake degrees, if they're studying at all, and in return for spending tens of thousands of dollars for that fake diploma, they get a toehold in Canada.
00:13:45.440 They're basically being promised that they can immigrate here.
00:13:49.040 Here's a recent report that our friend Lincoln Jay did, and here's an additional report by Sarah Stock.
00:13:57.340 This is who has been entering in our country for just a few thousand bucks.
00:14:02.440 Let's take a look.
00:14:23.820 The rules were simple.
00:14:25.040 You need to work like six months, then you can apply for your permanent residency.
00:14:28.700 Rules were changed overnight, and we were not even notified.
00:14:31.340 We were working in the sales sector, food sector, and we are now not even eligible to apply for nomination.
00:14:37.100 Right now, I am on the streets of Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island.
00:14:41.500 Now, the reason I'm here is because immigrant workers have taken to the streets to protest the expiry of their work permits.
00:14:50.300 Recent change in the government's work permit policy has sparked protests over the past week.
00:14:55.700 According to the Office of Immigration, the province is prioritizing skilled workers in high-demand sectors such as trades and health care.
00:15:03.780 Individuals working in sales and the service sector may not receive invitations to apply for work permits.
00:15:09.340 The people that have been protesting here are on post-graduate work permits, meaning that they once studied here in Canada and then were permitted to work here for a certain period of time on work permits.
00:15:22.300 Now, we spent the day talking with locals, talking with the protesters and just getting a better understanding of what the demands are of the protesters and how the locals feel about the immigrants working here in PEI.
00:15:36.300 Is it helping the economy? Is it putting a burden on the economy? Do the locals care? Do they not care?
00:15:43.220 Well, we spoke with them. We spoke with the protesters. And let me show you exactly what they had to say.
00:15:48.420 If you would like to support my independent journalism, head on over to migrantreports.com.
00:15:54.540 We were here long before rules were implemented. And the reason we are here is because we demand that we need to be grandfathered as we were unaware that this would have happened. This is the reason why the protest is here.
00:16:09.780 What would you say to people that claim you guys are just here on a temporary work visa, you don't have the right to stay? What would you say to those people?
00:16:16.120 So I would say to those people, why were we deducted the CPP, the Canada pension plan at the very first paycheck? Why were we deducted the CPP on every paycheck after the first paycheck that we are going to get after 60 years of age?
00:16:33.040 Education, we spend a lot of money to rent as well. So we have the right to stay here.
00:16:37.760 Everyone is working. Everyone is paying tax. So everyone has equal and fair rights to show in this country.
00:16:43.980 We are not trying to oppose the government. We are just trying them to do the fair thing.
00:16:49.780 If you think it's temporary, then you tell me one thing. So after six months, you guys just use us, right? We work for six months. Then you say, OK, we cannot give you the PR. You need to go out.
00:17:01.160 So it's like use, right? You just use it to get your work done.
00:17:05.060 Everybody is targeting that all foreign workers are, they are trying to live here illegally. They are spreading hate messages. And this is what we don't stand for. We don't want nothing for free. We just want them to be fair with us. From our perspective, this looks total discrimination.
00:17:23.800 First of all, we're having a good support from the city people who are living in Charlotte Town in Prince Edward Island. The people who are living over here, we're having a good support from them.
00:17:31.280 There's a lot of good workers here that are filling jobs and it's definitely a good thing. Keeps the economy going and stuff like that.
00:17:48.020 But it might be a little harder for like the average Canadian to get a job now.
00:17:53.460 That we're putting the run to people who have come here to settle, to have make a life for themselves and their family and to enrichen our society. To put the run to these people is immoral.
00:18:08.520 I appreciate what the government might be trying to do, but I don't think that how they did it may have been the best way to do it.
00:18:17.080 It would make more sense to get people that are skilled to fill positions that we can't fill, rather than something that anybody, I guess, could get a job doing.
00:18:28.080 If you're going to let the Mexicans or the East Indians or the Asians come here and they're working in a minimum wage in a food restaurant, that does not bode well for the country.
00:18:38.880 It was the government that convinced everybody to please come because they felt there was a shortage in the workforce, that our population was an aging generation.
00:18:50.520 And this is why they opened the doors. And now it seems like they're turning back.
00:18:55.800 Yeah, but I think if you look across the country, other jurisdictions have stopped doing this completely or have followed the lead that we've had and have ratcheted back that certain sector.
00:19:04.760 As I say, last year in Prince Edward Island, we nominated 855 people for a PR through sales and service.
00:19:10.760 The year before that, we did roughly the same amount, just a little bit less.
00:19:14.660 If the industry is doing a relatively good job in terms of retention, that should be a significant number to augment their labor force and to make sure their business is running and being successful.
00:19:26.580 Immigration remains an incredible strength and force for Canada and for the Canadian economy.
00:19:32.280 Being able to welcome in people from around the world, particularly at this time of labor shortages, is good for our country and good for the future that we're building together.
00:19:41.040 Look, international students are a credit to this country, Mr. Speaker.
00:19:44.400 They are the future of this country and they are an asset that is very lucrative.
00:19:48.120 I came to Canada as a foreign student from India many years ago, back when this country was a much different and nicer place.
00:20:07.720 I'm here to speak out against what is happening.
00:20:10.700 As requested, we have hidden the identity of the man interviewed in this section of the report.
00:20:17.000 This is not the first time he has spoken out and he feels it is necessary to bring awareness to this situation.
00:20:23.860 So what exactly is the purpose of so many people coming to Canada on these student visas?
00:20:29.360 It is best explained here with this immigration flyer.
00:20:32.280 It says that you come here as a student, once you establish yourself here, you bring your entire family over and then get use of all the social services that Canada offers.
00:20:44.020 They see the loopholes that our incompetent government has created and they have abused it full throttle.
00:20:52.860 But just last month, the teachers at Conestoga College were complaining that these kids are actually illiterate.
00:21:00.120 They can't read, write, they don't know basic arithmetic.
00:21:03.660 The loopholes here are many, such as attending a shady college and not even attending.
00:21:11.160 There's a couple of colleges that the Globe and Mail investigated and they didn't even have classrooms in them, but they had places to process your immigration file.
00:21:20.960 Some of these colleges are even owned by immigration consultants.
00:21:25.540 While most of us are suffering in this really poor economy, there's a section of the society which is becoming rich off of these loopholes.
00:21:35.500 It's not even about permanent residency.
00:21:38.300 Canada's reputation for being such a soft country has gone global.
00:21:43.020 And everybody knows that the minute you step foot in Canada, the odds of you being sent home are almost zero.
00:21:52.000 So forget about permanent residency.
00:21:54.520 The idea is just to get into Canada.
00:21:57.060 And if you have children here, they become Canadian citizens.
00:22:00.800 PEI was chosen just like the Prairie provinces came up with very short-sighted policies
00:22:06.440 that allow people to work at restaurants or hotels and things like that.
00:22:13.340 And they could just work there for six months and then qualify for permanent residence.
00:22:19.340 After they get their PR, most of them will come back here because this is where they thrive in this corrupt Gotham City.
00:22:26.220 We are just seeing the fruits of many years of bad policy.
00:22:31.020 We've attracted newcomers who bring important skills and the know-how to create jobs and grow our economy.
00:22:37.780 But now the scale of it is so large and now none of our children can find jobs this summer.
00:22:44.240 Can anyone explain to me why the f*** is so hard to get a job in Toronto?
00:22:48.880 Many people have immigrated to Canada recently and realized one of the quickest ways to get money and power
00:22:54.880 is to become an immigration agent.
00:22:57.040 And you can see these immigration agents online are coaching students on how to apply as refugees
00:23:04.180 and also how to get politically active.
00:23:07.820 When 700 students were caught with fraudulent papers, the government ordered them to be deported,
00:23:14.940 but they started protesting by the airport and they brought in religious music.
00:23:20.400 As of to say, this is some religious struggle.
00:23:22.840 And Canadians who are so scared of their own shadows just gave in.
00:23:28.060 You saw all the politicians come out, even Pierre Polivare,
00:23:31.460 telling these students who came here on a lie that we need workers, we need more young people.
00:23:39.440 Listen, we have a worker shortage in Canada.
00:23:42.280 We have a demographic problem.
00:23:43.880 Our population is too old.
00:23:45.740 We need 700 young people.
00:23:47.480 And there's one immigration agent in particular who's been very vocal on social media.
00:23:53.000 And he's fanning the flames.
00:23:54.420 You see kids in Manitoba using this sort of religious messaging around their expiring work permits.
00:24:04.140 And they cornered this liberal MP who promised to do everything for them.
00:24:10.480 This is the same MP who was just being so mean to Canadians before.
00:24:17.760 Thank goodness it was that Canadians and the majority of the people in the House
00:24:22.600 saw the value of protecting the health and well-being of Canadians
00:24:26.540 and that the far right was marginalized back then, Madam Mayor.
00:24:30.580 And this is how he speaks to these students.
00:24:32.820 He was cornered here like a rat.
00:24:34.400 We want you to be able to stay in Canada.
00:24:37.600 We can't promise you anything other than we will promise to work as hard as we can,
00:24:43.000 whether it's myself or Malaya, in trying to keep you here in Manitoba.
00:24:46.200 And then he asked Mark Miller to extend all their visas.
00:24:50.040 They saw what happened in Manitoba.
00:24:52.260 The immigration agents are celebrating it online.
00:24:55.000 And now they're protesting all over the country.
00:24:57.080 When I came here as a student, it was not just to get an education,
00:25:00.700 but to put yourself outside your comfort zone and sink or swim.
00:25:06.860 Even established colleges and universities like Conestoga College and Kitchener
00:25:12.340 have traded in their future and their reputation for short-term gains.
00:25:18.340 Conestoga made $140 million on tuition in the last 16 months.
00:25:24.260 You know how many international students they brought in?
00:25:25.860 Conestoga's got like two campuses, right?
00:25:27.580 They're like the size of this building, you know?
00:25:29.220 They're not huge colleges.
00:25:31.000 $30,000 they brought in in 16 months.
00:25:33.240 Now we have politicians like Tim Opal saying that the language requirement might go away.
00:25:40.080 What has happened?
00:25:41.280 What has happened to our dear country?
00:25:43.040 Just look at him here with Priya Polivar speaking Punjabi.
00:25:46.980 They do have the right to stay in Canada until the last day of their visa.
00:25:55.240 There's a reason why the visas expire because circumstances change
00:25:58.780 and our government has all the authority to make those changes
00:26:03.300 based on new developments in the economy or new circumstances.
00:26:08.720 Nobody's promised them anything.
00:26:10.080 There's no combination of words in any language I speak
00:26:13.460 that can get through to a person like Trudeau.
00:26:16.660 Does he want to be responsible for a country where women are not safe at night
00:26:21.060 or on a bus or in an elevator or on a train?
00:26:26.020 This is a reality that all the women in my family experienced in India in crowded situations
00:26:32.520 and now we're seeing it in Canada.
00:26:35.520 If you were born in Pakistan or reclaimed from Pakistan,
00:26:38.180 you must have been kidnapped by me.
00:26:39.480 You've been kidnapped by you?
00:26:40.780 Of course.
00:26:41.520 A lot of people are trying to figure out why this immigration rate is so high.
00:26:46.380 For 2024, the cap is expected to result in approximately 364,000 approved study permits.
00:26:54.240 People new to the country are promised everything.
00:26:57.780 In exchange for votes, McLean's magazine, they reported on how Mark Miller got his seat.
00:27:03.700 He just gave people free Liberal Party memberships to get his seat
00:27:08.740 and this is what they're doing to the whole country.
00:27:11.880 They're just bringing people and putting them in different ridings to flip them.
00:27:15.780 Whether it's international students in particular
00:27:18.100 that have grown at a rate far beyond what Canada has been able to absorb.
00:27:25.400 If they don't fulfill any of the demands, there will be a hunger strike to death
00:27:29.520 from 1st of June and anything happen to any health issues to any of the protestants,
00:27:37.300 Honourable Justin Trudeau, Mr. Mark Miller, Provence of PEI, Honourable Dennis King
00:27:43.400 and Economic Growth Minister Jen Redman should be held reliable
00:27:49.400 to any loss and severe health issues to any of the protestants affected 1st June.
00:27:54.360 We don't put the run to people so that you and your generation can get an apartment.
00:28:02.400 This is a country of opportunity, but it's not a country where immigrants should get
00:28:07.540 sitting in a McDonald's or a Tim Hortons or any of the fast food
00:28:11.600 or a convenience store or a gas station.
00:28:13.900 We are paying equal taxes, so what we demand, we just demand equal rights.
00:28:18.100 We are just not demanding something for free.
00:28:20.640 We demand fear.
00:28:21.800 You know, a snowflake is pretty powerless by itself.
00:28:28.260 It'll just melt the minute it lands in your palm.
00:28:31.740 But millions and billions of snowflakes are responsible for the avalanche.
00:28:37.600 I need more snowflakes to speak up.
00:28:39.800 We need to cause an avalanche.
00:28:50.260 Registered Canadian Immigration Consultant, Kanwar Sierra, stated to me via email that
00:28:56.080 postgraduate work permit holders should refrain from engaging in political activism
00:29:01.740 and that protests are not a viable.
00:29:04.500 Like our parents, like if we did that, like it's disrespectful.
00:29:07.340 Like, you know, to like Canadians, we'd think in our head, I don't know, like the stuff I
00:29:11.160 see, they don't even care.
00:29:12.440 Because if I were to immigrate to another country, I would try to fit in.
00:29:15.880 I would try to assimilate to that culture, right?
00:29:18.900 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:29:19.440 I think they were not promised anything.
00:29:22.780 So I think the protest is, what do I say, worthless.
00:29:27.500 Before coming here, they should plan that what kind of study they want to do so that they
00:29:32.420 can be secure in the future.
00:29:34.760 Like, personally, I am doing police course in this college.
00:29:38.060 So I am secure.
00:29:38.940 I can get a job in the police line.
00:29:40.980 A lot of immigration consultants just want to make money.
00:29:44.380 So that's why they lure students by giving these kind of advertisements that we can
00:29:51.820 get into PR with study and all these kind of stuff.
00:29:57.860 It's Sarah Stock from Rebel News in Brampton, Ontario, where just last weekend, international
00:30:03.220 students were protesting with demands to have work permits extended.
00:30:08.420 They're demanding to extend work permits of those who are expiring next year and to have
00:30:13.080 postgraduate work permits extended from three years to five years.
00:30:16.940 Let's go talk to some Brampton locals and find out if they agree with these international
00:30:21.140 students that they have a right to stay in Canada.
00:30:24.140 Let's also talk to some of the students themselves and find out what promises were made to them
00:30:29.100 and who was selling them these lies that guaranteed them that they would stay in Canada indefinitely.
00:30:35.680 Do you agree with us about the work permits?
00:30:38.000 I think so.
00:30:39.260 It should get extended because, you know, students come here and they need, I think,
00:30:44.440 a bit more time to explore about their careers.
00:30:48.720 I think it's better if they get, you know, three years work permits rather than two.
00:30:54.780 So I think it's better.
00:30:55.860 First of all, I think they should be closing the doors here in Canada because we're letting
00:31:00.700 far too many people in here.
00:31:02.220 There's a very large influx of people in Brampton right now.
00:31:05.960 So, I mean, we can only handle so much.
00:31:09.240 If they say they should not be allowed, they shouldn't be in here before too, right?
00:31:13.120 So when they allow them to come in here, they should give them everything, whatever they're...
00:31:17.980 Well, they were allowed to come for a certain amount of time and then that time ended, right?
00:31:23.540 It's like if I were to go to a different country, you can't always just stay forever.
00:31:28.120 Sometimes you have a temporary visa.
00:31:29.820 How it is, like, people coming from India, like from South Asia, like different countries,
00:31:34.700 they are coming here for a good future.
00:31:37.260 They say, like, they're coming here for studies and then they wanted to become a permanent resident here.
00:31:42.400 And all the students, even people working for us too, they are contributing to everything, to the, you know, to the country.
00:31:49.160 It's bad for everyone.
00:31:50.940 Like, it's harder for everyone to get jobs, housing, everything.
00:31:53.240 But it's the government, you know, like, they do it on purpose.
00:31:57.200 They bring them all here because they make the prices very high.
00:32:00.460 Like, the government makes a lot of money.
00:32:02.500 If you check, like, a college fee, like a semester I checked, for me it was $2,000.
00:32:07.320 For international students, it was $17,000.
00:32:09.540 Many fear that these unprecedented levels of immigration are simply unsustainable,
00:32:14.800 as Canada is already experiencing a housing crisis and many are struggling to find jobs.
00:32:20.060 It also seems like many foreigners are becoming students not just to study,
00:32:24.040 but in order to get postgraduate work permits and eventually permanent residency.
00:32:28.360 Everybody come here for a better life.
00:32:30.680 People, most of the people come here to do their studies,
00:32:33.800 but after that they change their mind after staying here that they want to get the permanent residency and citizenship.
00:32:38.620 One person brings four or five people in.
00:32:41.960 And usually, like, when you are a student, you do these small jobs,
00:32:45.820 like, you know, helping hand and here and there.
00:32:48.380 But all those jobs were taken by the visitors.
00:32:52.280 What is the government going to do?
00:32:53.860 We're just waiting around.
00:32:55.920 They need to do their job, but they're not doing their job.
00:32:58.720 We're in a corrupt system, I believe.
00:33:00.380 They're not coming here just for visiting and then go back.
00:33:04.540 People come here to settle, and this government know about it.
00:33:07.180 Like, people are coming here to settle down here.
00:33:09.440 But I know a lot of people that come here, they don't even have their studies rate.
00:33:12.540 And, like, I talked to a couple of them, and they're like, oh, like, their studies are not right.
00:33:16.100 They just live with a lot of people.
00:33:17.640 Like, it's hard.
00:33:18.140 It's hard for them, too.
00:33:19.620 Like, you know, my parents were immigrants, too.
00:33:21.280 They came to this country, like, a while back.
00:33:23.360 Like, obviously it wasn't this much, but they got used, they adapted to, like, the Canadian culture.
00:33:28.220 Like, you know, they didn't do too much.
00:33:29.380 Like, the stuff I see today, it's like, I don't know, they don't really adapt to the culture.
00:33:33.880 The truth is, many of these international students were sold the dream by immigration consultants
00:33:38.720 that all they have to do is enroll as a student to come to Canada, and they will be on the path to citizenship.
00:33:45.460 They were told they would be able to bring their families over to Canada as well
00:33:49.300 to live their best life in the Great White North.
00:33:52.320 Now, somebody is profiting off the scam, but it isn't always international students.
00:33:57.500 Seems like they may have been sold some promises that weren't kept.
00:34:01.800 Turns out Canadian citizens are paying the price for this immigration scandal.
00:34:06.580 I know the education institutions, they're all fake.
00:34:10.720 There's, like, one room is not, how can you call this a college?
00:34:14.900 This was happening in front of everybody's eyes.
00:34:17.880 We know it was going, one day it's going to happen, but nobody stopped them that time.
00:34:22.100 A lot of people are concerned about housing and the availability of all these new people coming in
00:34:27.380 and also about a lack of jobs.
00:34:29.400 Do you see that as a concern?
00:34:31.280 Yes, that is basically, I think the main concern right now here is, like, the housing
00:34:35.560 and their lack of jobs, job opportunities for people.
00:34:39.480 International students are coming here and they can't work, they can't provide for themselves.
00:34:43.440 I think that's a really big issue currently.
00:34:45.760 The thing is, well, I think that Mr. Trudeau needs to get out of power.
00:34:50.860 Who do you want to be in power inside?
00:34:53.640 I just want the government to change completely.
00:34:58.280 You know, there are no jobs, there's no housing, you know.
00:35:01.220 So the government should have decided this one before.
00:35:04.140 Now they are just saying, oh, we don't want these guys here.
00:35:07.240 You know, they should go back.
00:35:08.520 So the problem is they let in too many people.
00:35:11.540 They let too many people become students.
00:35:13.460 Now it's not good for the students.
00:35:16.120 Students have to go home, but also it's bad for a lot of the Canadians living here too
00:35:20.660 because now there's not as many jobs, there's no housing.
00:35:22.940 The money they're going to spend on them to send them back, it's going to be way too much.
00:35:27.860 You know, like if they're saying, okay, we're going to, nobody's going to go like this.
00:35:31.320 Okay, you go.
00:35:32.240 Like our parents, like if we did that, like it's disrespectful.
00:35:34.700 Like, you know, to like Canadians, we'd think in our head, I don't know,
00:35:38.220 like the stuff I see, they don't even care.
00:35:40.100 Because if I were to immigrate to another country, I would try to fit in.
00:35:43.520 I would try to assimilate to that culture, right?
00:35:46.560 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:35:47.200 That's what we were, me and my friends are talking about too.
00:35:48.960 We're like, we're trying to adapt, you know, respect other people's culture,
00:35:51.600 but I see other people adapting to theirs now.
00:35:55.560 It's crazy, but it is what it is, you know.
00:35:57.860 You know, they should stop these people who are coming now.
00:36:00.560 That's the first thing they should do,
00:36:01.860 not with the people who are already here for four or five years.
00:36:04.700 And they have contributed too much to the society, to the, you know, to the country.
00:36:09.800 But I think now after five years, you say, okay, we're going to kick you and go out.
00:36:13.880 That's something unfair.
00:36:15.380 So we spoke to some locals in downtown Brampton,
00:36:17.820 and now we're at Sheridan College to see what the international students themselves have to say.
00:36:23.120 I think it's important for students as they give three or four years of their life to this country.
00:36:31.640 And also they spent hefty amount of money.
00:36:34.540 So I think they should protest and the government should also listen to them.
00:36:40.320 This thing should be done for them because they are working hard a lot over here.
00:36:44.480 When they are coming on the work permit after that, they are working a lot over here.
00:36:49.720 And I just want them to be given the chance to stay over here so that they can perform well.
00:36:54.400 They can have little bit more work to be done.
00:36:56.400 I'm worried that how can I extend my work permit.
00:37:00.840 So there are a lot of other options such as alumni year.
00:37:04.540 So I will try to focus on getting alumni year immediately after I will nearby in the work permit expiration.
00:37:15.020 So I want to say government have to do something for international students because they are doing for refugees.
00:37:19.900 But they are not taking concern of international students.
00:37:24.440 I think they were not promised anything.
00:37:27.700 So I think the protest is, what do I say, worthless.
00:37:32.480 Worthless.
00:37:33.420 Yeah.
00:37:34.400 So you study, you do your thing for three years which the work permit they get.
00:37:41.240 And after that, if the country needs you, like if you are in health care or if you are in trade, if the country needs you, they will take you in.
00:37:48.800 If it does not, time to go home.
00:37:51.640 That's what I'll be doing.
00:37:52.960 Yeah, because that's what's best for Canada too, right?
00:37:55.440 It's for the people who live here too, right?
00:37:57.500 Yeah, yeah, I think so.
00:37:59.640 And we can't force our opinions, our beliefs.
00:38:04.040 We can't force what we want on the government.
00:38:07.280 So I think it is what it is, that's all.
00:38:12.720 Do you think they have the right though?
00:38:14.520 When a lot of these people are saying, oh, we have the right to stay here.
00:38:17.540 But they were never really promised by the government that they can stay.
00:38:21.540 They were just told you can study here, right?
00:38:23.740 But I don't think so that giving work permit guarantees you a PER.
00:38:31.280 So they are only asking for a work permit, not a PER.
00:38:34.260 What do you think about a lot of people are saying, we have a housing crisis right now, there's not many jobs.
00:38:39.280 So that's why they're saying it's so hard to have so many people stay, right?
00:38:43.180 I think so.
00:38:43.900 Maybe the government can play some role for this one so that they can give some work for them to be done over here.
00:38:51.760 Maybe because of this thing, they can get some work.
00:38:55.100 Maybe the government can help for this.
00:38:56.540 Before coming here, they should plan what kind of study they want to do so that they can be secure in the future.
00:39:03.920 Like personally, I am doing police course in this college.
00:39:07.260 So I'm secure, I can get a job in the police line.
00:39:10.160 So I'm very much concentrated on my study.
00:39:13.760 So, yeah, they have to plan before they came here so that they can achieve their goals and get more work opportunities.
00:39:25.180 Why should people be able to stay but there's not going to be a job for them because we already have enough people to fill their job?
00:39:30.960 I don't have much to say about that.
00:39:34.640 You don't know?
00:39:35.400 No.
00:39:35.840 I think that government also is taking a good decision if they don't extend the time period as housing crisis and job crisis are at its peak at the moment.
00:39:48.360 So I think both the values are appreciated.
00:39:53.680 You see both sides of the situation.
00:39:55.520 Something I've been hearing is a lot of these students were told by immigration agents and people like that or by the colleges that if you come study here, you will get to stay here forever.
00:40:08.160 Is that true?
00:40:09.220 Do you think people are being told that?
00:40:11.080 Yeah, I think that because a lot of immigration consultants just want to make money.
00:40:17.300 So that's why they lure students by giving these kind of advertisements that we can get into PR with study and all these kind of stuff.
00:40:28.500 And many students come here for that purpose only.
00:40:32.000 Yeah, it's absolutely atrocious that these hucksters and hustlers are selling de facto, selling Canadian citizenship for 10 or 20 grand.
00:40:40.940 They've become millionaires, but they have choked our country with people who we did not choose to bring here.
00:40:48.020 I think that we have to go back to the traditional definition of immigration, which is bringing people into Canada that we choose for our benefit that we can properly absorb and integrate and assimilate.
00:41:02.160 And we've been doing that, by the way, for decades.
00:41:05.180 It's only in the last 15 years that immigration has raced and only in the last three years that Trudeau has quadrupled it.
00:41:13.800 One of the things I still want to learn, I'm going to head back to the conference now, it's just so hot outside, is how do you talk about borders and citizenship and immigration without being called racist?
00:41:25.180 It's not racist to have a happy homeland, France for French people, Italy for Italians, the Poles for Poland, Hungary is full of Hungarians.
00:41:36.320 Should Canada not be Canadian in nature?
00:41:39.060 Should America not be American in character?
00:41:42.140 It doesn't mean you can't come here from another place.
00:41:44.700 But if you bring in such vast numbers of people with foreign ideas and don't integrate them and assimilate them, don't be surprised if your own country changes.
00:41:55.320 I want to learn a few more things before I depart.
00:41:58.620 I want to learn how to not be afraid to talk about these things.
00:42:02.020 I mean, I'm not particularly afraid, but how do we give ordinary Canadians courage to talk about immigration and citizenship and borders without being called racist?
00:42:10.560 How do we fix the problem?
00:42:13.280 It's like we have a bathtub that's overflowing.
00:42:16.540 I think step one is you have to turn off the tap and then figure out how to empty the drain.
00:42:23.820 I think the most terrifying thing that will come is what we're starting to see in the UK.
00:42:29.140 Ethnic enclaves of people who have come over to the UK, some of them decades ago, who simply have not been asked to and have chosen not to become British.
00:42:39.860 In the last election, as you know, there were five districts that voted for independent MPs, Jeremy Corbyn, and four Muslim Brits who ran on a Muslim platform, who ran with Gaza as the centerpiece of their campaign.
00:42:54.620 Not as one of a dozen issues.
00:42:57.020 I mean, it's legitimate to have an opinion on Gaza.
00:43:00.440 Of course it is.
00:43:01.140 But when the only issue you talk about and the only flag you fly is Gaza and you only campaign on Muslim issues because you have an enclave of 30 or 40 percent Muslims, that is not Britain anymore.
00:43:15.040 That is colonization.
00:43:17.480 One of the arguments against the West is that the West has been colonial.
00:43:21.500 The West has been imperial.
00:43:22.860 That doesn't really work on Canada.
00:43:24.580 We didn't have slaves.
00:43:25.820 We don't have a dirty reputation we need to launder.
00:43:32.020 I would put it to you that neither do America or the UK either, by the way.
00:43:35.700 Both countries have done more than anyone else to abolish slavery, which still exists in Africa, the Middle East and Asia.
00:43:41.440 But if you really want to apply that Marxist lens of colonization, it's Canada that is now being colonized by foreign people, as the UK is.
00:43:53.360 Anyways, it's getting just absolutely hot and scorching out here.
00:43:57.540 I think I'm going to go back inside, but I wanted to share with you these thoughts, and hopefully we'll grab a few more interviews today.
00:44:03.020 We're back in the conference.
00:44:13.240 Oh, my God, it was so hot I had to change my shirt.
00:44:16.160 I was soaked through.
00:44:16.800 I don't know how anyone works in this kind of heat and humidity in the summer.
00:44:21.220 Maybe it's a shame that air conditioning was invented, because if it was that atrocious, the politicians would never gather.
00:44:27.020 Again, I think one of the big focuses of national conservatism is immigration.
00:44:33.160 I mean, isn't that really one of the definitions of a country?
00:44:35.940 Do you have a border?
00:44:37.280 Do you have a nationality?
00:44:39.160 You're not just a hotel room.
00:44:41.360 Here's an excerpt from a panel on Islamic immigration, and then I have a sit-down with the speaker, Ben Weingarten.
00:44:49.180 So take a look at this from earlier today.
00:44:50.940 So my question to you is, why do Jews get to be the only religious group to have a state that was taken from Palestinian Muslims in the entire world?
00:45:07.780 And if it is such a legitimate state, then why has it not gotten along with its neighbors like legitimate states do for the past 60 years,
00:45:19.120 to the point where even America, under President Trump, tried to initiate peace, and it didn't work, and it still hasn't worked.
00:45:28.580 So why?
00:45:29.860 Thank you.
00:45:31.340 Well, first, I guess, thank you for nominating me, the unilateral speaker for Jewry Worldwide.
00:45:37.160 Sorry, I appreciate that.
00:45:41.780 Hard to know where to begin here, except to say that Israel has been the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people since time immemorial.
00:45:51.600 There's been a constant presence of Jewry there.
00:45:54.300 Jews didn't seize Israel by force, as you're sort of suggesting, I think, in your question.
00:46:00.140 By international law, which Eugene can speak to, Jewry has a claim to Israel,
00:46:04.460 in part back by that historical basis, as well as the fact that, of course, there's been a constant presence there.
00:46:12.320 Palestinian Arabs were not forced off of the land, which was, again, by international law, sanctioned to be Israeli land.
00:46:21.040 And many of them voluntarily left, because the surrounding nations said, leave your homes and after, we will slaughter the Jewry there.
00:46:28.400 And in fact, when you talk about the hostility, I guess, of Israel towards its neighbors,
00:46:34.340 Israel has been repeatedly attacked from all sides.
00:46:37.040 A New Jersey-sized state for a minority population in the world, in a sea of well over a billion people,
00:46:45.000 who overwhelmingly, according to Paul's today, and historically has been the case, hate Jewry and wish to see it destroyed,
00:46:51.000 who cannot tolerate their being, who basically want there to be a June and Ryan Middle East altogether.
00:46:57.520 So I think you get the question backwards, frankly, and the notion that somehow it is the Jews who are the supremacists
00:47:07.440 because they want to live in the state which is their birthright, I find it to be farcical and perverse.
00:47:19.560 Well, that was Ben's answer. I had a sit-down with him. Here's how that went.
00:47:23.400 A lot of smart people here, a lot of thinkers and scholars who are trying to take their ideas into practice.
00:47:30.120 It's no surprise that we bumped into our old friend Ben Weingarten here.
00:47:33.320 You might remember Ben from a dozen appearances on the Ezra LeVant Show,
00:47:36.680 including a very long and heartbreaking night on election 2020 when Ben stayed up into the wee hours with us on our live coverage.
00:47:44.040 Ben, of course, is a writer for The Federalist and with Newsweek.
00:47:47.480 Great to see you here again in person, and I'm so glad you were on a panel.
00:47:51.300 Can you sum up a little bit about the case that you made to the crowd today?
00:47:55.820 Yeah, so this panel was on Israel, Islam, and the West,
00:48:00.060 and I was tasked with talking about the Islamic supremacist challenge to America.
00:48:05.340 And I sort of walked through what the Muslim Brotherhood in America laid out as their ultimate goal for this country 30 years ago,
00:48:13.480 and then all the things America has done, in part under the influence of brotherhood-aligned entities, individuals, and nations,
00:48:22.640 to essentially help the Islamic supremacists here achieve their goals.
00:48:27.560 And I concluded with the question of, when you look at the litany of policies that have ultimately seen us give up our liberties,
00:48:37.020 undermine ourselves domestically and across the world,
00:48:40.980 and at the very least under two administrations, the Obama-Biden administration and now the Biden-Harris administration,
00:48:47.660 elevate Sunni and Shia Islamic supremacists alike,
00:48:53.280 who is more responsible, or to whom do we ultimately attribute it?
00:48:57.700 Is it progressives who have a worldview which believes in appeasing our adversaries,
00:49:04.500 which is desirous of and has opened our borders,
00:49:08.400 and which is politically ambitious and sees a growing Muslim population through immigration and otherwise,
00:49:14.060 irrespective of the Jew hatred that is disproportionate among that population,
00:49:20.140 the tolerance that population has, if not support, for Hamas's Holocaust in a day, executed on October 7th?
00:49:28.640 Are we more to blame the progressives at the end of the day,
00:49:31.280 or is it the Islamic supremacists who have taken advantage of our gullibility, our tolerance, our openness, our greed, our naivete?
00:49:39.640 And I closed by referencing this Muslim Brotherhood memorandum from 1991,
00:49:46.760 where they said that the goal here was a civilization jihadist process,
00:49:50.900 where they wanted to curse and sabotage America by our hands, Americans' hands,
00:49:58.140 and by the hands of the believers, that is, the Muslim Brotherhood and their allies.
00:50:02.000 And so I would argue that we have sabotaged our own miserable house as laid out in that memorandum,
00:50:09.480 but we've had a helping hand from the believers as well.
00:50:12.120 That's very interesting.
00:50:13.360 First of all, I think that's the key focus.
00:50:15.700 I mean, what happens overseas, militarily, diplomatically,
00:50:18.700 that's hard for, I think, most Canadians and Americans to focus on.
00:50:24.220 I don't know how much difference we can make, how much of those decisions are within our hands.
00:50:31.200 But so many things that are happening day to day, for example, in my city, Toronto,
00:50:35.840 the pro-Hamas encampment at the University of Toronto,
00:50:39.540 the weekly Hamas hate marches,
00:50:41.880 the toleration of crazy calls for genocide and proximate violence,
00:50:51.480 not just an abstract call for genocide, but I will kill you,
00:50:56.020 the shooting of a Jewish day school in Toronto.
00:50:59.480 That's much more acute to me is the danger here in North America,
00:51:04.480 the danger, I think, that comes for Jews first, but Christians very close second.
00:51:09.080 Let me ask you this, how much of the rot in our institutions,
00:51:13.240 like universities, can be traced to funding by Qatar and other malign actors like that?
00:51:21.240 Because it's astonishing to me to see that universities that have been so synonymous with liberalism
00:51:28.140 and even with Jews, Harvard, Columbia, are atrociously pro-Hamas.
00:51:34.720 How did that happen?
00:51:36.060 Well, part of it is this unholy alliance,
00:51:40.280 which was really the subject of my remarks between the progressive left on the one hand
00:51:44.400 and Islamic supremacists on the other.
00:51:46.560 And you could almost see this personified going back to Yasser Arafat,
00:51:50.780 who was Soviet-backed.
00:51:52.700 I mean, he was essentially a KGB agent.
00:51:55.000 And the Soviet Union felt that they could inculcate in and foment Jew hatred in the Islamic world
00:52:01.820 as part and parcel of a broader project to attack the Judeo-Christian West at the end of the day.
00:52:08.880 And we've had on our campuses now for decades this view.
00:52:13.140 Edward Said is also another thinker here from Colombia who well represents this view,
00:52:18.160 that there's this dialectical.
00:52:21.160 There's the oppressor and the oppressed.
00:52:23.020 And that is a narrative that is potent among the leftists who use that to justify essentially
00:52:29.460 knocking America down as many pegs as necessary and elevating our worst adversaries as a matter of equity.
00:52:36.320 Somehow they've come up with the perverse view that of all the oppressors in the hierarchy,
00:52:40.240 it's Ashkenazi Jews who were slaughtered during the Holocaust that are the most oppressive of them all.
00:52:45.620 And this plays right in, of course, to the Islamic supremacist worldview and also exploitation of the Western mind virus of leftism,
00:52:54.160 which says that the West has oppressed the Muslim world.
00:52:56.520 And so we're getting our just comeuppance, essentially, with jihad.
00:53:00.100 And also, of course, there's the peaceful and there's a non-peaceful undermining and subverting of our societies.
00:53:06.600 To your point about the institutions and specifically the colleges and what is the link
00:53:11.500 beyond the left-wing ideology that has prevailed in these schools for decades,
00:53:16.400 beyond the Middle East studies departments,
00:53:19.540 which have always been cauldrons of and hotbeds for genocidal jihadism, Islamic supremacism,
00:53:25.940 oftentimes with funding from those nations.
00:53:28.200 It's staggering if you look.
00:53:30.380 And schools have not fully disclosed all of their foreign funding,
00:53:33.260 and they've used ways around the disclosures that they ought to make.
00:53:36.260 Of all the nations that have contributed, foreign nations that have contributed funds to American universities,
00:53:42.920 really in the last 20 years, it's not China that's number one, it's Qatar.
00:53:47.280 And Qatar has contributed billions of dollars, and they're not alone to our universities.
00:53:51.780 They have partnerships with several universities, research and exchange programs.
00:53:56.080 There's also an article that I commend everyone to read in Tablet,
00:53:59.200 which talks about foreign student populations in these universities.
00:54:03.100 And if you look at the quote-unquote most elite schools, you have massive percentages of foreign students in these schools,
00:54:08.820 many of them from Muslim-majority countries and, in fact, sponsored by them.
00:54:12.480 This is a cash cow for the universities.
00:54:15.680 Foreign funding, irrespective of the nations that it comes from,
00:54:19.220 and then foreign students who will pay full freight.
00:54:22.160 So there's a greed aspect to this within the schools,
00:54:25.640 and then there's the ideological aspect of they actually agree with the anti-Judeo-Christian Western civilizational values
00:54:32.020 that are tied to the funds and the students that they're receiving.
00:54:35.860 Ben, it's insane in Canada.
00:54:37.960 There are 900,000 foreign students.
00:54:41.320 We're one-tenth the size of America.
00:54:42.960 Imagine if there were nine million foreign students in America.
00:54:48.200 That's more, 900,000 is more than the Canadian students.
00:54:52.020 And obviously they're fake.
00:54:53.340 It's just, it's political.
00:54:55.100 It's an immigration hack.
00:54:56.760 I want to ask you one last thing.
00:54:58.960 I appreciate your time.
00:55:00.140 I was just in the UK on their election day,
00:55:03.820 and Nigel Farage has made immigration a key issue for his newfound Reform Party.
00:55:10.600 They got four million votes in really their first real effort,
00:55:14.120 even though they only got five seats out of it.
00:55:16.720 But you know who else also got five seats?
00:55:19.260 Independent candidates running under the Gaza or Palestinian flag.
00:55:23.780 One was Jeremy Corbyn, the hardcore left-wing former labor leader.
00:55:28.340 But the other four were British Muslims.
00:55:31.780 I think they were all Pakistani.
00:55:32.980 I'm not sure.
00:55:33.880 And their campaign videos are just startling.
00:55:36.680 No Union Jack, of course.
00:55:38.640 The Palestinian flag talking about Gaza, calling out, you know,
00:55:43.320 depending on the individual candidate,
00:55:45.560 the way they call for genocide is more or less.
00:55:48.180 These are in Muslim pockets of where the population is up to 40% Muslim.
00:55:54.420 These were in seats that used to be held by the Labor Party,
00:55:57.340 and the Labor Party Muslim MPs were not hardcore enough.
00:56:01.920 So imagine, I mean, it's so rare that independents win.
00:56:05.820 The system is not set up for that.
00:56:07.840 I fear that there'll be 15 or 20 of those independent candidates next time,
00:56:11.980 but more to the point that labor will do everything it can to absorb those voters,
00:56:16.700 to bring them back in the tent and win.
00:56:18.660 And I see that as a prognostication for Canada five or 10 years from now,
00:56:23.500 and for America too.
00:56:26.020 I'm really worried about that,
00:56:28.340 because I don't think these newcomers from those countries,
00:56:31.380 I don't think they're susceptible to debate or persuasion.
00:56:34.280 I think they come over with a Klan loyalty and an ideology.
00:56:40.620 They don't care about, you know,
00:56:42.120 they're not going to Columbia University and listening about Marxist critiques of race or whatever.
00:56:47.480 They just hate the West and hate Jews,
00:56:49.460 and they can't believe they're allowed to vote people into power.
00:56:52.400 I'm scared with what I saw in the UK,
00:56:54.580 and I think it's coming to North America.
00:56:57.220 What you're speaking to about the newcomers in these countries is illustrated in the polls,
00:57:02.680 and it also reflects the countries from which they came in the first place.
00:57:07.000 And so the question you have to ask Western leaders, Western governments is,
00:57:11.360 you know, there's a phrase, there's a cliche, personnel is policy.
00:57:15.380 But people dictate the nation at the end of the day.
00:57:18.660 Nations are landmasses, but it's the people who animate them
00:57:21.520 and the values and principles that they hold that give life to them.
00:57:25.020 And if you, in mass, bring in, through mass migration,
00:57:29.960 people who hold values and principles that are inimical to our own,
00:57:34.800 what do we expect is going to happen?
00:57:36.780 And I think you're absolutely right.
00:57:38.940 Look to France, look to the UK, look to other nations
00:57:42.580 that have permitted mass, unchecked Islamic immigration for what is to come here.
00:57:49.620 And the simple question you have to ask is,
00:57:51.520 to what extent are the leaders making policies reflective of the populations,
00:57:56.880 the constituencies that they represent?
00:57:59.200 And to your point about, essentially, the labor leftists in the UK,
00:58:03.660 this is why I wrote my book on Ilhan Omar, American Ingrid in America.
00:58:07.080 It was a clarion call to say, we're going to get many more Ilhan Omars,
00:58:10.400 and the party itself is going to be in hock to this group.
00:58:13.480 And as I said during my remarks today,
00:58:15.860 the Muslim population in America is set to surpass the Jewish population by 2040
00:58:20.380 to make Muslims the second largest religious group in this country.
00:58:23.020 And by 2050, it's expected to more than double to 8 million.
00:58:26.900 If you look at what the views are of the Muslim population that is already here,
00:58:31.620 disproportionately anti-Semitic, disproportionately pro-Hamas relative to the natives,
00:58:36.120 look no further than the uncommitted vote in Minnesota and Michigan
00:58:40.700 to see what our future looks like.
00:58:42.800 And the progressives have already kowtowed to this group.
00:58:45.120 They see Muslim votes as a growth industry.
00:58:47.560 Muslims have typically voted two-thirds Democrats in this country.
00:58:50.400 I expect the same phenomenon here, but to your last point about the counterweight here
00:58:56.700 or the sort of counter-revolutionary spirit in these countries,
00:59:00.300 people know that there's something wrong with immigration.
00:59:02.660 There's a reason that immigration was the number one animating issue
00:59:05.360 for the MAGA base in America in 2016.
00:59:09.060 I think this is the root issue at the heart of the populist, nationalist, conservative movements
00:59:13.300 writ large across the world.
00:59:15.040 And at the end of the day, this is kind of the battle for our time.
00:59:18.760 What kind of people do we want to be?
00:59:21.600 What kind of nations do we want to have?
00:59:23.280 Or are we going to sacrifice our nations?
00:59:25.880 Ben, it's great to catch up with you.
00:59:27.600 And hearing your predictions of 2040 and 2050, we're in Canada.
00:59:32.540 We are well past that now on a proportionate basis.
00:59:36.600 It's terrifying.
00:59:38.660 And you can see the results on our streets.
00:59:40.120 Well, there you have it.
00:59:40.700 Ben Weingarten catching up with us here at the National Conservatism Convention.
00:59:45.000 By the way, when I was out and about in the heat, I decided to go to the Lincoln Memorial,
00:59:51.220 which is very powerful.
00:59:53.020 And, you know, I think one of the most powerful things is reading the inscriptions on the walls in there.
00:59:59.560 On the one side was his very famous first inaugural address, four score and seven years ago.
01:00:05.880 You probably know that phrase.
01:00:07.420 But on the other, and that was what he wrote when war was, war clouds were gathering.
01:00:11.820 But on the other side was a terribly sad and ominous inaugural address about the war that had been underway.
01:00:20.460 Here's what I saw and said earlier today in the heat of the day.
01:00:26.060 On the other side of the Lincoln Memorial is Abe Lincoln's more famous inaugural address.
01:00:34.880 You probably know the first sentence, even if you don't know what it is.
01:00:38.120 Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth onto this continent a new nation conceived in liberty
01:00:44.060 and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
01:00:47.720 That's actually about 10% of it right there.
01:00:50.040 It's very short.
01:00:51.740 But the second inaugural address by Lincoln is on the wall behind me.
01:00:57.760 And it's too long for me to read here, but I'll put a link to the whole thing below this video.
01:01:04.340 I am going to read the third, the last third of it.
01:01:08.080 The first two is basically Lincoln talking about how the war came, how both sides didn't want it,
01:01:15.500 how slavery was one of the reasons.
01:01:17.540 But let me now read the last third, which gives me chills even on this sweltering summer day.
01:01:23.820 This is the chilling part.
01:01:25.180 Yet if God wills that it continue, that is the war, that it continue until all the wealth
01:01:32.920 piled by the bondsman's 250 years of unrequited toil shall be sunk,
01:01:40.620 and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword,
01:01:47.820 as was said 3,000 years ago, so still it must be said that judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
01:01:56.260 With malice towards none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us,
01:02:02.460 to see the right let us strive on to finish the work,
01:02:05.060 we are to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle,
01:02:10.420 and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace
01:02:16.100 among ourselves and with all nations.
01:02:18.540 And I think the most terrifying part of that is Lincoln's statement that this civil war will bleed as much
01:02:30.080 as any slave who was hit by the lash, and this civil war will cost as much as any wealth piled up by slavery.
01:02:40.500 And I think it's true, and he has a biblical resonance there.
01:02:44.280 He says that's God's will, and indeed it was.
01:02:47.540 Did you know that the U.S. Civil War, which killed more than 600,000 Americans,
01:02:52.560 was the most bloody war of all that the U.S. ever fought?
01:02:56.680 More than the Revolutionary War, more than World War I, World War II, Vietnam combined.
01:03:02.160 And I say this, and I came here because the United States is the only country that had such a civil war
01:03:09.880 in part to end slavery.
01:03:12.220 And the British Empire before it is the only empire in the world that went to such lengths
01:03:18.120 to end slavery, not only by buying the redemption of every slave in the empire,
01:03:23.960 but for 50 years dispatching the Royal Navy to intercept slave trading ships from West Africa to the Americas.
01:03:32.380 In fact, they captured hundreds of those ships and rescued, rather, hundreds of thousands of slaves.
01:03:41.760 Every continent in the world except Antarctica has known slavery.
01:03:46.040 There was slavery in the Americas before Europeans came here.
01:03:50.720 There was slavery in Europe and Asia.
01:03:54.280 There still is.
01:03:55.020 Africa and the Middle East, there still is.
01:03:56.840 I come here to read what Abraham Lincoln said about America's willingness to pay a price in blood and treasure
01:04:04.980 to end the scourge of slavery.
01:04:08.080 Show me another place in the world that can say that.
01:04:10.840 Well, that's our show from here in Washington.
01:04:13.100 We're going to wrap up here.
01:04:14.000 I'm glad I came.
01:04:15.400 I'm sort of thinking through things with you out loud.
01:04:18.260 I haven't fully digested everything I've heard here today.
01:04:21.680 I think it's been an international week for me intellectually.
01:04:26.220 I was on July 4th.
01:04:28.880 I was in the U.K. for the election when Nigel Farage's Reform Party broke through on the issue of immigration.
01:04:36.480 I saw Islamic sectarianism where five MPs were elected just on the Gaza issue.
01:04:43.120 I also, in the town of Clacton that voted for Nigel Farage,
01:04:46.400 saw people afraid to even say they were voting for him or why.
01:04:50.300 Then we sent our reporter, Alexa Lavoie, and our videographer, Guillaume Roy, to Paris,
01:04:56.380 where France was having an election on July 7th, the runoff, on their national elections.
01:05:02.440 And immigration was at the heart of that, too.
01:05:05.120 Here's just a quick hit from Alexa.
01:05:07.480 If you haven't watched her stuff, you can see it at franceonfire.com.
01:05:11.560 Here's a taste of what she saw.
01:05:12.920 On vous a couché ! On vous a niqué ! Voilà ce qu'on dit !
01:05:20.540 Vous avez perdu. Vous avez perdu. On est trop fort à gauche.
01:05:23.660 On a l'amour, on a la fête, on a la joie.
01:05:26.740 Vous avez la haine. On est trop fort. On est trop fort.
01:05:30.080 Vous avez perdu, désolé.
01:05:30.900 Vous avez perdu.
01:05:35.520 Vous avez perdu.
01:05:38.520 Vous avez perdu.
01:05:39.520 Vous avez perdu.
01:05:40.520 Vous avez perdu.
01:05:41.520 Vous avez perdu.
01:05:42.520 On va rester en France.
01:05:43.520 Nous, les boujoulous, restez ici.
01:05:45.520 On reste ici.
01:05:46.520 Voilà, on va rester là, les gars.
01:06:01.460 Et puis, on va rester là, les gars.
01:06:31.460 Les gars.
01:06:32.300 Les gars.
01:06:32.600 Les gars.
01:06:33.140 Les cácés.
01:06:34.380 La Stanley, t'esüp influence pas habitaciones.
01:06:36.860 Les gars.
01:06:37.140 Et si je t'ai jusqu'au fraîn,
01:06:38.680 wäre dans l' screen.
01:06:39.080 Non-l' magazine.
01:06:39.600 Je t'ai fait problématique de problématique,
01:06:40.460 en ce moment de façon,
01:06:41.740 les gars,
01:06:43.840 sहições bells,
01:06:45.980 marge votes
01:06:46.860 pour arriver.
01:06:50.700 Il y a non- computing
01:06:52.260 le flows.
01:06:53.360 La tri soit parmiers,
01:06:56.100 et écoutez,
01:06:57.540 du flux de forte,
01:07:00.900 in Canada. And I'm worried that we're late to the game. And Trudeau has done an incalculable
01:07:06.820 amount of damage. And let's be honest, Stephen Harper before him did too. That's our show for
01:07:11.380 today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us at Rebel News, to you at home, good night and keep
01:07:17.020 fighting for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.
01:07:30.900 you