EZRA LEVANT ｜ On the ground at the pro-Hamas takeover of the New York Fashion Institute
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Our third and final report from New York City on how pro-Hamas hate marches have colonized universities. We ll visit the Fashion Institute of Technology and give you a report from the scene. It s April 26th, 2019.
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tonight our third and final report from new york city on how hamas hate marches have colonized
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universities we'll visit the fashion institute of technology and give you a report from the
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scene it's april 26 this is the ezra levant show shame on you you sensorious bug
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ezra levant here for rebel news i'm actually at the fashion institute of technology in manhattan
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where i don't know i guess in the last hour or so a group of pro hamas supporters stormed into
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the lobby of the fashion institute of technology and have set up an echo camp of what's at columbia
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the anti-semis therein are want the university or the institute to cut all ties with israel and they
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put israel in quotation marks i spoke to some of the kids outside who really didn't have a clue what
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was going on they didn't know much about gaza or israel i asked them what they had to say about
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the uigur genocide those are the muslims in western china who were literally put in concentration camps
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they don't know any of that they prefer to chant but there are organizers we know in canada that for
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example iran has 700 agents in canada actively pumping up an anti-semitic protest let's see what
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the fuss is about around here many of the people protesting are not students not surprisingly they
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wear masks i think the funniest moment of the day uh and i've only been here for about an hour
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is seeing people with flags flags that aren't even the palestinian flags what country's flag is this
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what flag is this is is this a palestine flag are you sure hi do you know what flag this is i'm not
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sure but it's not the palestine flag she says it's not the palestine flag did you just pick it up or did
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someone give it to you i don't think that's a palestine flag what's the protest about palestine and the uh
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eviction of two students and the firing of an ra all right do you live here in new york or did you
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come here from another place i dorm here where are you from originally uh mexico oh mexico um
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are you are you going to boycott class or is it just sort of like a one-day protest
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i'm hoping it goes for more than one day is it expensive to be a student here absolutely yeah it's
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expensive yeah are you worried that you know you're going to miss out on your education
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i mean absolutely but those things are more important i'm glad people are showing up and
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supporting and why are you glad people are showing up and supporting what what's uh what are they
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supporting help me understand i just got here one minute ago uh the students of fit are protesting for
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uh free palestine they're under a devastating genocide right now and it's about time the whole
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city stands up and is loud about something so horrible and and what should be done
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um a lot of universities including fit have connections to israel they should divest
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all of their their money and all their associations with israel um there are charges against certain
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students for protesting and um they should drop those charges um everybody should be loud and
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help us finally come to an end can i ask how much tuition is here i have no idea it depends if
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you're in state or out of state if you're out of state it's if you're out of state it's about uh 15 000
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a semester in state 5 000. so you're from mexico so that would be like what 30 grand u.s a year
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about i'm from canada so that's like 50 grand canadian that's and you say you're from mexico that's a lot
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of money it is a lot of money yeah are your folks helping you uh not anymore no not anymore
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yeah how come my father my father lost a job oh i'm sorry to hear that are you on a scholarship or
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something not right now sadly well you're taking a bit of a risk you know if you're if you're not
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going to go to class i guess are you worried no so cut ties with israel should it cut ties with any
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other countries that that for example aren't liberal democracies or or just israel how about iran or
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or china china is not a liberal democracy should fit cut ties with them no no um first and foremost
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focusing on israel right now now in china there's a group of muslims called the uyghurs
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they're in that province called xinjiang they have actual concentration camps where muslims are
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interned does that warrant sanctions or should fit still deal with them i'm not going to speak to that
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i think we're focusing on the genocide that's happening in israel specifically right now in israel or
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is the genocide in israel or is it in gaza or where is it it is in occupied palestine in the west bank as
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well as gaza there's a genocide in the west bank there's not a genocide but yet and hopefully there
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won't be but there are similar atrocious crimes going on and the the land is occupied by israel are
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you a student here i'm not so you just came down because you heard the protest um yeah and i i know
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several students that that attend but i'm not a student myself are you with a group of some sort
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fit administration you will not scare us you will not suppress our voices we will just be louder let
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gaza live slogans and as i said before whenever i ask some of these protesters any substantive questions
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they just don't know the answer uh and they resort to these mantras but mainly what they do is they don't
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talk there's a strange delegation of any intellectual responsibility to some professional communicators
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and you know people googled what rebel news was and they started saying don't talk to them don't
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talk to them that's so unusual to me as someone who spent a life trying to persuade the world of my
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point of view i mean i used to be in politics i had rallies i actually briefly ran as a political
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candidate i write opinion editorials or i make opinion videos all the time so much of my life is
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trying to convince the world of my point of view i might be wrong i might be right but boy i got a lot
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to say what's different about these protesters is they don't have much to say slogans that are typically
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written by the organizers are all they have they delegate their thinking to a few spin doctors
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i find that not only civically irresponsible but i think it gives the game away these are just
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thrill hunters these are just people moving with the pack looking for a sense of purpose and community
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and finding it in this uh snake oil being served up by woke extremists on the left and in some cases
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foreign-funded agitators i um i can't help but think of other movements where uh impressionable young
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people were weaponized whether it's the hitler ugand or the young pioneers in the soviet union i think
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that's what we're seeing here the same madness the same uh chanting i don't know it's just very
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eerie an echo of history but you think these kids know any history hi what's your name anthony freda
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professor here and i was here the moment that they stormed in the building i have video of it if you
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want it but um some of my students are in there and uh it was it started out as a peaceful protest but
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they obviously had a plan where they were going to storm past security so they just they all just
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diverted and there was no security and they just went right into the museum building
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and took it over and um here we are and uh are you yourself blocked from entering now yeah nobody
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can get in and were you teaching a class today yes how do you feel about this well i'm listen i'm
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all in favor of free speech but this is something else you're taking over uh an institution and you're
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preventing people from working and it's obviously it's not your property so it's trespassing and it's also
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um ideologically i'm not in agreement with my students but i agree with their right to protest
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now we were at colombia yesterday and i think there's sort of a spectrum of protesters some are
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like you say peaceful protesters who want political change but then there's language that you know refers
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to genocide and then there's language from the river to the sea and then globalize the intifada like
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there are some people who are i saw video yesterday i didn't take it but of people saying go back
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to poland to the jews like they were basically anti-semitism in some of the rhetoric here as well
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here as well of course they're saying um i mean i i work at fit and they're saying fit is the same
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as the kkk so it's obviously absurd this is a this is a very liberal fashion school so to say it's the same
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as kkk is it's such extreme rhetoric and it's to me it's hate speech um do you know if some of the
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folks in there i think you implied that many of the people in there are not actually students did i
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hear you correctly i think most of them are but from when i was here when they stormed in some of
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them were not students well my opinion is that what you can see my opinion is that those people are
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i can see a total ignorance i'll just give you one example i was talking to one man and i asked them
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well what are you what are you protesting about and he said you know resistance against occupation
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and i said okay well october the 7th was it the resistance he said yeah of course and then i just
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showed him a real a video reel from october that was filmed in gaza this 24 years old girl shiny look
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well she was murdered she was killed and her naked body was defiled and you can see people spitting on
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her body like kicking her dead body and i just asked him is this is a resistance to occupation and
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he replies well first of all i don't believe it i said what do you mean to believe it those are films
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and he's like i don't give a shit so that's all so basically said i think all what you need to hear
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about is like it's it's like they don't they don't care about justice or anything they just choose sides
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when you show him a murdered girl who's who's been spitted on all of the sudden he doesn't give a
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shit that's all you need to know about this well that's my opinion
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i support it support why do you support it because the war need to stop they stop to
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they have to stop to killing people that's why i'm supporting i i think a lot of people would agree
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that the violence has to stop but um are you afraid of supporting a terrorist group against a
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democratic country yeah they're conflict they they're gonna they're gonna have to solve the
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problem peaceful way not just killing each other they cannot continue on doing this anymore
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would you agree that the war started on october 7th when hamas terrorists
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invaded israel it's begun like long time ago it's not like just started like last october 7th that's
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not true right i what i know of like i know a little bit of a history but then what i know
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of is that wars it was going on all the time but then it just yeah what do you think of the anti-semitism
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being focused on new yorkers students who attend here no this is not about anti-semitism well the
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jews uh some of the jews here say it is that's their opinion so they that's an anti-semitism activity
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here so if the jews feel targeted and harassed they're just being too sensitive have you met any
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jewish students here like being harassed the fashion industry in new york has a jewish history
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the shmada business i think calvin klein's uh an alumnus here um what is it uh i don't know if
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you know any jewish students how have they felt about either i mean it's too early to say what they
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think about today i just happened minutes ago what have they said about the last six months i guess
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some of my jewish students are hesitant to speak about it but they're um they're very dismayed about it
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because they feel like it's very one-sided and a lot of the people who are protesting are sort of
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ignorant about the history and the issues and very myopic and it's just inflamed rhetoric and it's
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it's ironic because they're using hate speech to decry what they see as uh hate speech and they're
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advocating genocide of jews because they are against genocide of um palestinians supposedly
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now i was at columbia yesterday and they're very disciplined the protesters they won't talk to media
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they refer media to official spokesmen and i my theory is that a lot of these students actually
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have no idea what they're talking about they're repeating mantras repeating chants i spoke to one
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protester who had never heard of uyghur muslims in china and she could and when i told her a few things
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she couldn't care less um i think there are some naive folks but i think there's some organizers
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some sort of uh funders who do you think that top echelon is because the ordinary students i talk to
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are i don't think they have any depth here they're clueless i think this is orchestrated um sort of a tick
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talk you know uh astroturf rebellion that it's just it's fashionable right now and it's it's popular
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just because it's popular and they have no idea what they're talking about um but they want to be
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part of this um so-called rebellion against the colon you know the colonizers and oppressors and
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the same old um uh oppressive dynamic that there's always a victim oppressor mentality and they see
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israel as the oppressor and the palestinians as the oppressed how do you think it's going to end
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this i don't know i spoke to the police and they said this is a private school but it's really not
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because suny's suny school is a public new york school so they said it's up to the school to
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extricate the kids so i don't know it's going to be some kind of standoff or they're planning on
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staying there until the demands are met and the demands are absurd you can see them on the sign over
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there um so the demands are not going to be met so i don't know what what's going to happen
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one of the grossest things and this is typically an iran move is that there's an extremely small
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sect of jewish uh a fringe jewish group that when they're when they're asked to they come and
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purport to represent purport to represent jews you can see the ultra orthodox back there with anti-semitic
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comments why would you come and shame your fellow jews aren't you a shanda for the goyim
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how much have you been paid to be here and be a jewish anti-semite
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who pays you to be here to be a shanda for the goyim how much money will you take to be an anti-semite
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how do you feel about being an anti-semite how much how much how much how much are you paid to be
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here how much are you paid to be here how much are you paid to be here get out of here how much are
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i'm here at the fashion institute of technology and it looks like i've got a bit of reaction
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shame on you are you a student here shame on you shame on you shame on you shame on you
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there's an extremist sects in judaism called the natural i karta uh who for reasons that are inscrutable
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to me um they don't believe in the state of israel they're 0.001 percent of the jewish community
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there's a handful of them in london england a handful in new york and a handful in canada
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i've got to think that their total numbers are under a thousand but one of the ways they make money
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is they rent themselves out to anti-semitic protests to say hey no no no jews hate israel too
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it's bizarre it's a betrayal of the judaism and it's at the behest of the iran government
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they don't come out here for free they don't come here um as part of a religious activity this is how
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they make money and whenever you see those natural i karta protesters it's a signal that the protest itself
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is funded by iran i used a yiddish term on them shanda for the goyim which means a disgrace to the
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jewish people in the eyes of the world and i think they might have been surprised that i knew a little
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bit of yiddish i think what's interesting about this is that the fashion institute of technology
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from what we heard that one student from mexico it's about thirty thousand dollars us a year or
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fifty thousand canadian which is a startling thing for people to walk away from and throughout
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their career if they're expelled or suspended but of course why would that happen if the institution
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itself has been colonized like the students if the dean if the president of the university is as
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compromised to the students again i can't help but looking at the shirley goodman resource center
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the name of this building behind me without even googling i know that that's a jewish philanthropist
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do not interact with the media it's a protest without words just chance free free the fashion
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institute free the fashion institute free the fashion institute free the fashion institute free
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the fashion institute what's so interesting to me is i i follow uh a couple of analysts and critics
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who study maoism including xi van fleet a chinese american who went through the cultural revolution of
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maozidong and of course dr james lindsey who's an expert in marxism and queer theory today
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and i look at this mob and their cult-like chance and their lack of any policy depth and their youth
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and the fact that they're misfits and they're demonizing things and that they're being managed
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and all i see is mao's red guard the young know-nothings who want to destroy everything i should tell you
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half of their chants are against israel and jews but the other half are against america this is marxism
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whose deep roots have gone into academia and who are being supplemented by foreign nationals it's worse
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in canada and the uk where there's many more foreign students from countries where anti-semitism is endemic
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here i have to say it's mainly privileged luxury kids attending an expensive private fashion school
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who have decided that this is the way to be fashionable and modern and edgy
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it all i can think of are mao's red guard holding their little red book and chanting they don't know
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a damn thing about what they're talking about in this case some of them were even flying the wrong flag
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but what they lack in understanding they make up for in enthusiasm this will end in blood
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i think that that this is a caution there's a way to be able to make your point known there's
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a way to be able to advocate but you can't block critical infrastructure i caught up with marco van
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hoogenboss one of the coups three defendants that was issued a guilty verdict last week in lethbridge
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alberta robert kreitchik here in calgary alberta reporting for rebel news people are expecting her
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to speak out in this manner for her to deflect and to weaken her position for whatever the reason is
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is is is wrong so it's surprising and it's frankly a bit disgusting
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marco van hoogenboss george jansen and alex van herk participated in the 2022 coups protest and
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blockade which essentially overlapped in terms of time frame with the freedom convoy in ottawa the
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two demonstrations were broadly opposed to edicts mandates orders ostensibly issued in the interests of
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so-called public health by different levels of government to reduce covet 19 transmission
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there were times during the demonstration in coots that cross-border traffic between the us and canada
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at the coots sweetgrass border crossing linking alberta and montana was completely blocked i invited
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van hoogenboss to share some remarks in response to comments made by premier danielle smith
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regarding his conviction and those of his co-accused i also asked him to forecast somewhat what laid
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before him the jury made their decision it was a guilty verdict on tuesday night we obviously are
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expecting the sentencing could be up to 10 years in prison for those three men that'll come this
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summer they did make their decision rather quickly were you surprised by that they made about a couple
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hours it was um i what i would say is that the the legislation that we have in place for critical
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infrastructure act it it uh it doesn't matter what your ideology is or what um your your cause is or
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what your political perspective is you you simply cannot block critical infrastructure we're running two
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fundraising campaigns in relation to this ongoing story first is for the defense costs the lawyers
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fees for the three men george jansen marco van hoogenboss and alex van herk you can donate at
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coots3.com and keep in mind that lawyers do not work for free they are definitely not cheap and this
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fundraiser is being administered by a partner organization we work with a non-profit the democracy
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fund so if you do donate you'll be issued a charitable receipt against their donation yeah robert uh
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last week tuesday at um 8 45 9 o'clock uh all three of the couth three were convicted they were found
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guilty uh steps moving forward we have a july 22nd arraignment date um at that time there will be a
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sentencing date set and there will be in some way a bit of a mini trial where the crown and the defense
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make submissions to to the judge to the justice to the court and then the it'll be up to the court to
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determine um uh reasonable sentencing in relation to the prosecution the the the trial so uh we still
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have a a bit of a fight ahead of us uh in relation to sentencing but um for the next three months largely
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uneventful and i imagine after our arraignment it'll still be three four months before sentencing will
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actually uh occur so i watched this interview at least a portion of it with premier danielle smith
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and danielle smith was asked about these convictions about this trial and her remarks are basically that
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critical infrastructure shouldn't be blocked do you have any response to her response any thoughts you
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want to share about her remarks or other politicians remarks or absence of remarks yeah i've been asked
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about this interview a few times now i have i've actually done some interviews in relation to it i i don't
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support extinction rebellion gluing themselves to the bridge uh bridges i don't support uh days of
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action that shut down our our railway lines and i don't support uh inconveniencing neighbors and farmers
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and those who want to get goods transported by by shutting down borders and and highways it was with
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rachel emmanuel with true north and the question was specific the question was specific to the
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the conviction of myself and my two co-accused unfortunately the premier completely deflected
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i feel that she wanted to answer uh in a certain way and and she might have attempted to but very
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quickly she deflected and she provided a non-answer uh which referred to the critical uh defense act which
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the the previous administration jason kenny's administration put in place and i'll be honest uh that
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that that legislation was applicable to what we had done but uh unfortunately i don't think the um
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the the being found guilty in relation to that act was uh stranger enough in the eyes of um you know
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jason kenny or previous justice minister tyler shandler so instead we were charged with with uh mischief
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over 5000 which has a much more uh much significant impact uh it's it's possibly a 10-year um jail sentence
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the max her comments overall were like like i said a complete deflection inappropriate and to some
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degree and a very big disappointment i understand that daniel smith cannot interfere in the judicial process
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nobody has asked her to interfere in that she hasn't interfered in that her comment on a proceeding
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post tense would not be considered interference she was asked for a comment in relation to the
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conviction of three individuals and one of those individuals that is an individual she knows by name
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so it became a little personal for me but what i don't understand is she would have been better off with
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no comment than with the comment she did provide she referred legislation that had nothing to do with
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our prosecution she brought up the context of blocking critical infrastructure in relation to ideology
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coutts was not an ideological protest coutts was a protest of individuals albertans canadians white
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collar blue collar um folk from all corners from all backgrounds from all religious backgrounds ethnicities
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etc they were there for one reason they were there in relation to the messed up ideology of government
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they were there because government had lost their freaking mind so for the premier who ran on this
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this post covet anger to answer in this manner it's frankly unacceptable and disgusting uh there's an
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argument to be made that the blockage of critical infrastructure was implemented by the government itself
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and that that was done on ideological bases now um as far as other politicians elected officials or even
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just appointed officials have any of them you know privately or publicly remarked on this contacted you
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shared some support or offered some sort of critiques of what they saw as the prosecution
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well let's go back i've been involved in in municipal and provincial politics for a long long time
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um i was i was a six and a half year municipal politician um i was involved in the leadership review for
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jason kenney the leadership race that daniel smith was part of multiple agms general elections i have many
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friends in many friends and connections in the political world uh yes i've had many reach out
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some during the prosecution i've been in contact with many over the last 20 months leading up to
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to my my my trial um and i've had some that have reached out due to some of my maybe in relation to
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some of my uh sharp critical analysis of of the situation in uh on on social media platforms so to
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say that i've had no no contact with those elected to represent represent us and represent me as well
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that would be false i've had uh many good conversations but it's to me what what's said in
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private is is easy and confident it's about the position you take publicly that matters her re-entry
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into politics was a significant redemption story for her she ran to her her redemption story involved
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holding government accountable and to now be that government and to to to weaken her stance and to change
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course on that when she took significant heat from media people are expecting her to speak out in this
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manner for her to deflect and to weaken her position for whatever the reason is is is wrong so
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it's surprising and it's frankly a bit disgusting okay now final reflections on the trial itself even
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though there's still some outstanding disputes regarding sentencing anything that you want to
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share with the audience regarding what you may have contemplated in the past week since the
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verdicts were rendered well there's no surprise on my part in relation to my conviction there was some
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surprise uh regarding the lack of evidence and the little evidence in relation to my co-accuses and
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unfortunately it was a guilty verdict across across the board um i will say this we can't appeal until
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sentencing even if we would like to it it's not something we can do a lot of people have mentioned
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appeal there is no grounds and there is no reason to appeal at this point those who sat through these
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proceedings will know that all the commentators and all the opinionists or all those who hold strong
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opinions or have views on on a corrupt process if you weren't in that courtroom i'm sorry your opinion
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isn't exactly relevant you didn't observe how transparent justice keith yamochi was um we couldn't
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have done this with our phenomenal defense team i mean phenomenal michael ryan alan and matt phenomenal team
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phenomenal defense um they they fought for us and last but not least none of this was none of this was
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can we assist you marco post conviction post verdict as i continue to speak out and as i can continue to
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