Project Veritas has an unbelievable undercover video of a senior Pfizer executive making false statements to a reporter posing as a senior executive at Pfizer. We'll show you their work, and then we'll talk to a Project Veritas boss about how it all went down.
00:20:19.340I've never seen anything so crazy in my life.
00:20:21.340And James O'Keefe was certainly trying to find out if it was true.
00:20:24.340He had this guy on tape, but he put these questions to him now not in the guise of an undercover journalist, the date of this guy, but as a journalist with an outwardly observable conspicuous microphone and a camera crew.
00:24:42.340I just don't even know how they could target someone through a dating app, obviously.
00:24:46.340Just the patience to do that and then to get more and more information and the self-control not to pull the trigger on the story and the undercover acting of the reporter.
00:24:57.340It really is the most outstanding journalism organization in North America and they should own every Pulitzer Prize.
00:25:04.340But because they are called conservative or skeptics rather than part of the establishment narrative, they will never get the recognition they deserve.
00:25:15.340James O'Keefe obviously is working very hard on this story on an ongoing basis, but we're lucky to have a few moments with Mario Balaban, the media relations manager from Project Veritas, who joins us live via Skype.
00:25:29.340Now, Mario, first of all, congratulations.
00:25:32.340Not only is that outstanding journalism, it was just riveting from a shock point of view, from an entertainment point of view.
00:28:44.340And, you know, a lot of people have asked that because, as you said, the material is so shocking and so disturbing to a lot of people that a lot of people don't want to believe that this is actually true or happening.
00:28:55.340What I can say is that, first of all, Project Veritas stands behind our journal.
00:29:11.340I know that I know you're obviously a great journalist and a friend of ours.
00:29:14.340I absolutely know you're not questioning that.
00:29:16.340I'm saying to the general people that have brought questions to this, you know, Project Veritas, as you know, Ezra, we stand by our journalism and we never get any of these materials wrong.
00:29:59.340This person doesn't have any authority on the vaccines or COVID, not anything, not one sentence to try to delegitimize this reporting.
00:30:08.340Wouldn't you imagine that it would be easy for them if it were simple enough to do to come out and just write three sentences to try to take out the impact of the story?
00:30:19.340So we haven't seen any of that in 48 hours.
00:30:42.340You know, so it's actually, you know, what I can you know, I'm not I'm no psychologist, but I would imagine the person, you know, said the things that he said and knows he got caught in that situation.
00:30:52.340Their gut reaction is to try to downplay everything about themselves as they could to try to, you know, somehow convince us not to publish the story and throw doubt in the fray.
00:31:04.340But I'm not sure that that strategy is being effective for for him or for Pfizer.
00:31:09.340Yeah. I mean, it's been a long time since I've been on the dating scene, but I acknowledge that there is a obviously a temptation to self aggrandize, make you look handsomer, richer, more powerful than you are on a date.
00:31:23.340I get it. And I believe that. But what he said doesn't, you know, directed evolution of the vaccine, sorry, of the virus to induce mutations that we then provide the vaccine for.
00:31:36.340That's not, hey, I'm smarter than I am, handsomer than I am, richer than I am. That is, how is that even a dating lie? Why would you? How do you come up with that? It's so specific. It's so technical.
00:31:50.340And frankly, I think it looks evil. I don't think that's a show off move. It just it's so crazy.
00:31:57.340I think that guy was having a kind of a breakdown because he knew he was caught dead to rights and he sort of had a premonition of it earlier when he said, oh, this is like that conservative sting operation.
00:32:06.340I don't know. Has there been any word about this guy in the last 24 hours? Has he said anything? Has he gone to ground? What do we know about him in the last day?
00:32:17.840Yeah, no, we haven't heard from him. And, you know, Kim.com was a huge personality. Now, he tweeted something very interesting last night.
00:32:25.220He said, you know, this person, Jordan Walker, if you're seeing this, reach out to us, become a whistleblower, because I'm sure that, you know, you're not, you know, really, you know, obviously you're not happy that you're exposed.
00:32:36.340Through Project Veritas and James O'Keefe. But, you know, there's people that are suggesting that potentially this individual might be concerned about how Pfizer will take his revelations.
00:32:45.060Right. So if he has any concerns about his well-being or whatever that may be, Kim.com invited him to come public.
00:32:53.780He'd support him in any way he could to do so. So in Project Veritas, by the way, we are an organization that not only does undercover videos, as you know, but we also welcome whistleblowers.
00:33:07.040So he can become, he can, you know, come to us and, you know, open up really about what's going on. Or other whistleblowers can come to us at VeritasTips at ProtonMail.com.
00:33:17.120We're very receptive to people like that, and we will protect you.
00:33:21.640You know, that's a fascinating way of looking at it, and I'm glad you told me that. I hadn't seen that comment by Kim.com.
00:33:27.140And by the way, for those folks who don't know, Kim.com legally changed his name to that. He was an early tech innovator. He's a bit of a tycoon, and he's a bit of a dissident, lives in New Zealand, and is for privacy and for challenging big government, big tech.
00:33:42.900So that's a very interesting comment by an influential character. I never thought of it that way. I always thought of this guy as a rascal who was lying.
00:33:50.640But maybe here's another way of thinking about it. Imagine if he was part of a crime family, like the Sopranos or something, just for example, and he was on a date, and to seem tough and brave, he was telling family secrets, mob secrets that were then revealed.
00:34:07.800Would he be afraid of the police, or would he be more afraid of Tony Soprano?
00:34:12.720And would he say to the journalist, no, no, no, I was lying. Tony never did that. We never did that. I just made it up.
00:34:21.580So you're right. He may well be more afraid of the organization within which he worked and the secrets that he gave out.
00:34:29.880He may be far more afraid of them than of James O'Keefe, who simply embarrassed him.
00:34:37.420But you know what? He looked so stressed out. He looked like he was in genuine distress.
00:34:44.640He panicked. He shouted. He almost cried. He said, you can't do this. This is absurd.
00:34:49.860He called the police. He lunged. He read.
00:34:52.280I think we saw a human being crumbling in front of our eyes, mentally, because I think that's pure fear.
00:35:00.140Yeah, no, you know, these are all things that I think are worth considering.
00:35:04.320I think also, you know, having someone who, you know, I believe some people have invited psychologists to analyze his behavior on the moment, right?
00:35:13.280Like, you know, the first reaction was, what's going on? You know, is this real life?
00:35:17.100Then he goes on to, I never said this. You know, I'm a liar. Men lie on dates.
00:35:22.100You know, but as you pointed out, you know, what kind of lives of people, men, you know, or whoever might say, you know, I have money.
00:35:27.680I have influence. I'm, you know, I'm powerful. I'm rich.
00:35:30.580But bragging about specific details of a of a project that most people, as this man said himself, wouldn't like.
00:35:38.320The public wouldn't like. He said it himself that, you know, don't tell anyone, you know, we don't tell this to the public.
00:35:44.200We don't think they'd like this. So how is that a bragging mechanism?
00:35:48.060You know, if it's something that people don't like. So it's very interesting.
00:35:52.260You know, from there on, you know, he's he pretends he's the victim by saying he has to call the police.
00:35:57.360Then he says, don't let these people leave, which is potentially I don't know what to describe that as, but yeah, doesn't seem legal to me.
00:36:05.360And then he goes on to moves on there to physically assault the individual, believing that by assaulting an iPad with the video, somehow the video would disappear.
00:36:17.300Well, I mean, you could see he was grasping at any straws. If I lock you in here, maybe the story won't get out.
00:36:23.620If I smash the iPad, maybe that'll somehow destroy the video like that was.
00:36:28.800You know what? Some people joke these days when they go up against a powerful force.
00:36:32.980They say, by the way, I'm in good health and I have no suicidal thoughts.
00:36:36.680It's a it's a dark joke about if they, God forbid, were found dead later and someone were to ascribe it to suicide.
00:36:43.420You know, it's a dark joke. But in this case, he looks so genuinely distraught.
00:36:47.820You know, God forbid, I hope he doesn't take his own life. And I and I don't mean to put that idea out there other than I have rarely in my life seen a man so distraught and so distressed and humiliated and scared at the same time.
00:37:02.720And I actually hope he is OK. And wouldn't it be wonderful if he did become a whistleblower?
00:37:07.840He also I mean, let me just say one more thing. And I know you've got to go because you've had, you know, this is the number one story in the world right now.
00:37:15.900But let me just mention one other thing. You talk about the revolt revolving door between government and big pharma.
00:37:21.680And we know this is true. For example, the former FDA commissioner, Scott Gottlieb.
00:37:25.840And if I'm not if I'm getting my stats right, he became a director of Pfizer and he does the punditry for Pfizer on TV.
00:37:34.760And he was also the one, if I'm not mistaken, who tried to get Twitter to censor critics of Pfizer.
00:37:42.800Talk about a revolving door. Again, we can corroborate that. That's not a dating lie.
00:37:50.400It's an accurate observation. So we know some of the things he said were completely true.
00:37:54.100Right. And the meaner was very interesting to me. He was giggling.
00:37:58.960He's like, yeah, you know, this is great for us in the industry, but, you know, it's just really bad for the American people.
00:38:04.340And he's getting any he did giggle about it. Right. He wasn't you know, he didn't seem like he was upset about it or was opposed to it.
00:38:11.700He just found it. Well, yeah, that's an interesting part of my job.
00:38:14.380You know, like probably if I'm not that he didn't say these things, but, you know, he's probably thinking, you know, hey, like if I end up going to the FDA and, you know, probably get that revolving door treatment myself,
00:38:24.020one day, you know, but he does explain in detail what he does say is exactly, you know, how we asked how what how how is this bad for the American people?
00:38:33.780And he said, well, you know, the people that are supposed to review drugs and take a serious look at what we're trying to put in the market.
00:38:40.780They have an interest of not going too hard on us so that they have a job after they're done with their government regulation job.
00:38:48.900So it's it's it's quite telling that he was we as you said, people know this.
00:38:53.420But to hear the proof and hear the person inside that world confirm what we suspect is powerful in itself.
00:39:02.060You know, I want to come back to my Sopranos analogy one last time.
00:39:06.400You know, when I was in Davos last week and I bumped into Tony Soprano, a.k.a. Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer, I asked him about the fact that Pfizer and you probably know this, Mario, I'm sure you do.
00:39:18.920A few years back, they paid the largest fine at that point in American history, two point three billion dollars for deceptive marketing of another drug.
00:39:28.180Two point three billion dollar settlement. They basically made a deal to avoid the full prosecution.
00:39:34.720So this company we know has engaged in a company wide criminal enterprise before and the stakes are so much higher and it's so much bigger.
00:39:43.220Why wouldn't they engage in deceptive deception now when the stakes are so much higher?
00:39:49.620And maybe I was talking to the Tony Soprano of the organization.
00:39:53.840So like a good mafia don, he didn't say a word.
00:39:56.820He denied everything. He was just quiet. But this underling, you know, saying like a canary, as they might say in The Sopranos, he he didn't mean to rat them out or snitch, but he just was caught really as an FBI agent.
00:40:12.260I mean, this is a move the FBI might have done on Tony. And I know I'm going really deep down my Tony Soprano analogy here.
00:40:18.980But I think when you're dealing with Pfizer and the stakes and their ethics, I think it's a useful comparison.
00:40:25.740I don't know if Albert Bourla really is a criminal boss, but my God, that organization deserves all the scrutiny he can get.
00:40:33.480So we're an independent news organization. I see other independent news organizations covering this like crazy.
00:40:41.460Has any mainstream media, has any regime media, has the New York Times, has the Washington Post, has the L.A. Times, have any of them covered this story based on your blockbuster reporting?
00:40:52.340None of those that you mentioned have. Tucker Carlson, of course, is not in that same category, but he he did an extensively.
00:41:00.440He did a 20 minute segment opening his show yesterday, which was quite incredible to see.
00:41:05.260So on Fox News, on Tucker's show specifically, it happened something to note that's very interesting.
00:41:11.260Newsweek ran a fact check on the on the story.
00:41:48.620Daily Mail is normally outstanding. They're contrarian. They love taking a hard line because they're not so close to the U.S. president or the Canadian prime minister.
00:41:57.960I find that they can have more objectivity. When they took that story down, I was very curious about that.
00:42:03.620Well, listen, Mario, I've been very generous with your time. Outstanding work.
00:42:07.040We can find all sorts of info at ProjectVeritas.com. Do I have that website right?
00:42:12.120That is correct. ProjectVeritas.com is our website. And you can donate to us there as well as become a whistleblower by going to that website as well.
00:42:19.820Well, let me close by saying, you know, I appreciate your courteous comments about our work in Davos last week.
00:42:25.180That was three minutes of opportunistic question asking. I'm glad we did. And I'm proud of it.
00:42:29.660But to compare our three minutes of scrumming the CEO with your deeply, meticulously planned, patient, team, undercover work.
00:42:41.620You know, I'm grateful for your praise. But what you guys did, and it was obviously a team effort, was so outstanding.
00:42:51.100And I think it will change the course of the world just a little bit.
00:42:55.680I think it'll change the course of the world just a little bit.
00:42:58.040So congratulations and pass on our best regards to your whole team, including the boss.
00:43:02.280Thank you so much, Ed. I appreciate that. Thank you.
00:43:04.360There you go. Mario Balaban, media relations manager for Project Veritas. Just outstanding.
00:44:13.140I'm still working on those ideas, but thank you for your kind words.
00:44:16.940Tanya Bev says, Hey, Ezra, are you becoming controlled opposition?
00:44:20.740I have supported you for over two years, as well as supporting True North and other sets of organizations.
00:44:25.660I am disappointed in your coverage of Jeremy McKenzie.
00:44:29.960All right. Well, thank you very much for putting that to me.
00:44:31.980Now, I must confess that I am not deeply immersed in the subject of Jeremy McKenzie.
00:44:36.500I understand that he's a Canadian dissident protester who has protested against Trudeau and has suffered in various ways for it, including legally.
00:44:46.940And the latest news is that he has been debanked.
00:44:50.180That is, Scotiabank refuses to bank with him anymore.
00:44:53.560And that is of no surprise to me, as Rebel News itself has been debanked.
00:44:57.460You might recall that about a year ago we tried to get a mortgage and the two lending officers said, Wow, love to.
00:45:04.000You've got a great balance sheet. We'll give you no problem.
00:45:07.260But later on said, Uh-oh, head office has nixed it for political reasons.
00:45:11.160So I know exactly what it's like to be debanked.
00:45:13.820I think you're referring to an out-of-context excerpt from Sheila Gunn-Reed's report on Jeremy McKenzie,
00:45:20.020where she lists his flaws and his failures, but goes on quickly to say anyone, no matter what their flaws, deserves the right to bank.
00:45:29.240And she points out that Omar Khadr, the terrorist, and Karla Homolka, the mass murderer, they have the right to a bank account.
00:45:36.920So I think you're mistaking and misunderstanding what Sheila Gunn-Reed was doing.
00:45:41.180She was saying she doesn't have to agree with or even like someone to stand up for his rights to bank.
00:45:47.580I think Sheila was taking a very principled stand.
00:45:49.860And as far as controlled opposition, that makes me laugh whenever I hear it.
00:45:54.540If we're controlled opposition, I would suggest to you that we're quite uncontrollable.
00:45:59.660We're always fighting with the government, whether it's in court or on the streets, in our journalism, and they fight back.
00:46:05.920Unfortunately, they punch us, they shoot us, they block us, they demean us in a way that no other media is treated in this country.
00:46:14.760That's not controlled opposition, that is opposition, and sometimes we pay a high price for it.
00:46:20.900But I appreciate you writing to me nonetheless.