Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Reactions to Federal Court ruling Trudeau's Emergencies Act use was unconstitutional

00:00:00.000 an enormous legal and constitutional rebuke of justin trudeau christia freeland and the entire

00:00:22.400 thuggish liberal government in a blast of a ruling the federal court of canada has said

00:00:30.660 that the liberal party's invocation of the emergencies act some two years ago was illegal

00:00:39.180 unreasonable unjustifiable and finally unconstitutional the federal court of canada

00:00:50.080 has ruled that justin trudeau and the liberal party broke the law and violated our civil rights

00:00:56.580 in an astonishing rebuke speaking truth to power i didn't know i didn't think i would see it

00:01:06.340 you might recall that about a year ago slightly less than a year ago

00:01:13.000 justin trudeau handpicked a reliable liberal judge named paul rollo and hand wrote a narrow mandate

00:01:23.400 for that judge and said about a whitewashing process that he controlled and surprise he

00:01:30.600 exonerated himself and the liberals dined out on that for a few months with every mainstream media

00:01:37.040 journalist in the country clapping along like trained seals but today it was an independent

00:01:43.000 judge not a hand-picked judge by trudeau in a real court not a carefully scripted inquiry a real judge

00:01:50.420 the honorable richard mosley let's put him on the screen not one of trudeau's hand-picked favorites

00:01:57.020 and he applied the rules of court not the rules of justin and he had a lengthy hearing and he looked

00:02:04.300 into the law not just the politics and he found what each of us could have told you whether or

00:02:10.320 not we had a law degree it was an improper suspension of civil liberties and let me say

00:02:17.800 something very important that i want to say right at the top and we're going to go through this

00:02:20.960 together we're going to spend about an hour on this and in about half an hour we're going to be

00:02:25.420 joined by two senior lawyers including keith wilson the lawyer for the freedom convoy truckers in ottawa

00:02:31.280 and a fred chad williamson the lawyer for the truckers at the cooch blockade we will have some

00:02:37.980 serious legal firepower on this show in about half an hour but i want to point out a very important

00:02:43.300 thing about the lawsuit we're going to go through it it wasn't just canadians who were suing

00:02:49.560 the government of alberta and i'll confirm this we'll go through the page we'll go through the law to

00:02:54.840 get with the ruling together the government of alberta intervenes saying we didn't need

00:03:01.540 the emergencies act we were able to solve any policing problems without putting the country

00:03:07.380 under martial law this is an astounding ruling and the timing of it is absolutely perfect

00:03:15.660 coming right in the middle of a liberal party retreat they're having a lot of these retreats

00:03:21.840 retreats and summits and luxury getaways where they try and script some language to bring them

00:03:28.400 back from the brink of oblivion in the polls and what a delight to see them scupper all their plans

00:03:35.140 and put out tritchy twitchy freeland that's what i call christia freeland she's got that irritating twitch

00:03:42.940 i don't know if it's a medical condition or if she's just someone who has is a walking poker tell of

00:03:48.680 lies you know what a poker tell is it's when someone lies and they can't control something they

00:03:53.320 they have a wink or something or they make a face or their eyes look in a certain way i think that's

00:03:58.180 what it is with christia christia freeland she may have a form of tourette's and if so you know it's a

00:04:03.000 medical condition beyond her reach but i think it's a poker tell the woman is a non-stop liar and i think

00:04:08.900 her body can't control being such a liar take a listen to christia freeland explaining that no no no

00:04:15.220 no just because a judge heard the case and government lawyers were there but the judge

00:04:20.720 didn't agree with him just because you know what 150 or so page ruling page after page her law breaking

00:04:27.360 was exposed no no no you see uh with all due respect she disagrees and so she's going to appeal it

00:04:34.520 because of course she is because if this law if this ruling is upheld who's the biggest loser well

00:04:44.480 justin trudeau but i don't know how much long justin trudeau is going to be with us given the

00:04:48.440 polling but christia freeland actually thought and maybe she still thinks she can be prime minister

00:04:53.680 she was the one who seized the bank accounts

00:04:56.300 and if her legal rationale for seizing the bank accounts is gone then she's the one who will be

00:05:03.040 sued by everyone who had their bank account seized now i don't think she'll be held personally

00:05:07.700 responsible the government will bail out christia freeland for her illegal acts but if i was

00:05:13.020 christia freeland i would be saying no no no no no i'm innocent no no no no no also because what

00:05:18.640 she did was atrocious here listen to this wicked twitcher the twitchy witch explaining no no no this

00:05:25.100 judge don't listen to the judge what we did was completely legal take a look at this so we are aware

00:05:32.340 of the court decision we have discussed it with the prime minister with cabinet colleagues

00:05:40.580 with senior federal government officials and experts we respect very much canada's independent

00:05:51.160 judiciary however we do not agree with this decision and respectfully we will be appealing it

00:06:05.500 i would just like to take a moment to remind canadians of how serious the situation was in our country

00:06:17.420 when we took that decision the public safety of canadians was under threat

00:06:25.860 our national security which includes our national economic security was under threat

00:06:34.380 it was a hard decision to take we took it very seriously after a lot of hard work after a lot of careful

00:06:46.060 deliberation we were convinced at the time i was convinced at the time it was the right thing to do

00:06:55.060 it was the necessary thing to do i remain and we remain convinced of that and i'll now turn it over

00:07:07.380 to my colleague the minister of justice and then we'll hear from my colleague the minister of public safety

00:07:12.440 hey i got a question for you so it interrupts where's the coward justin trudeau

00:07:17.860 i mean i know he doesn't want to wear this he sent out twitchy to say how thoughtful she was and please

00:07:25.180 don't arrest me because i seized bank accounts and please don't please don't destroy my future

00:07:29.500 political career just because i was the one who seized hundreds of bank accounts illegally

00:07:34.000 where's the coward like at the end of the day it was the prime minister who made the decision

00:07:40.220 and he sends out christia freeland and some other no-name cabinet ministers seriously can you name

00:07:47.300 can you name without looking it up can you name the justice minister

00:07:52.440 can you name the public safety minister no googling it's it really is um justin trudeau and the seven

00:08:03.680 dwarves i mean i think people do know christia freeland can you name any other cabinet ministers

00:08:09.620 why did trudeau send her out why didn't he go out and say this in his best drama teacher voice

00:08:16.580 he wants her to wear it i think they're going to try and blame a couple of cabinet ministers in the

00:08:23.520 day like marco mendicino who was the public safety minister who was later sacked by trudeau they're

00:08:29.160 going to probably try and put some blame on him but it won't work it was trudeau and christia

00:08:33.220 freeland in the end who made the call it was freeland who seized the bank accounts it was trudeau

00:08:37.640 who deployed the ride horses it was trudeau who demanded that police arrest the peaceful protesters

00:08:42.960 like tamara leeches and she looking good these days the emergencies act was illegally invoked

00:08:52.540 for two years justin trudeau and his repeaters in the regime media have said that the convoy was

00:09:01.220 illegal in fact the convoy was legal it was the crackdown that was illegal tamara leech has never

00:09:10.320 been convicted of anything justin trudeau once again has been found to be a law breaker

00:09:15.500 we have 1162 people following this um live stream right now on youtube we have 1875 following it on rumble

00:09:26.860 i'd like my friends on rumble to feel free to make super chats to ask me your comments along the way

00:09:34.020 we're also on getter and odyssey i like to read those super chats online youtube unfortunately has

00:09:43.420 demonetized us probably at the behest of justin trudeau though they won't tell us but if you give

00:09:50.760 us a super chat a live chat comment on a rumble we'll do our best to get to them we are going to

00:09:59.740 go through the ruling because i want you to read it with your own eyes and then in about 25 minutes

00:10:05.000 time 20 minutes time we're going to call on keith wilson and chad williamson to walk us through it

00:10:09.160 in some ways this is comparable to richard nixon and watergate

00:10:16.560 and by that i mean the entire government apparatus every insider everyone all the way up to the top

00:10:23.420 political leader of the country the prime minister himself has just been declared a lawbreaker by the

00:10:29.100 court i suppose the only difference or the main difference is that uh the watergate break-in was done

00:10:36.280 secretly whereas the invocation of martial law under the emergencies act was done in plain light of day

00:10:43.620 every single journalist was condemned by this ruling as much as trudeau and freeland

00:10:51.460 because every single regime journalist cheered the lockdown cheered the emergencies act cheered

00:10:59.740 martial law cheered the arrest of tamara leach cheered the seizing of the bank accounts cheered

00:11:04.560 the riot horses in fact i recall crystal clear the general reaction from the parliamentary press gallery

00:11:12.940 when trudeau invoked the emergencies act and started cracking skulls was why won't you go harder why won't

00:11:20.100 you go farther of course the regime media was not named in today's court ruling but they for two years

00:11:29.040 have carried water for it this is as much a rebuke of the toronto star the globe and mail the cbc ctv

00:11:37.020 global and the rest of them as it is a rebuke of twitchy freeland and justin trudeau you know trudeau

00:11:44.860 told us that the country he most admires is communist china because of its basic dictatorship never forget

00:11:50.220 those words he added all right without further ado let's go through the ruling net right now i want to

00:11:56.360 take you through the ruling now it's a long ruling let's show the cover of it right here

00:12:00.440 issued today by the federal court the honorable mr justice mosley i already showed that to you

00:12:07.740 now i'm going to spend some time on the front page just to so we can understand what exactly was going

00:12:13.440 on scroll down a little bit it's between canadian frontline nurses and kristen nagel

00:12:20.820 and the attorney general of canada so nurses who were against emergencies act took the step

00:12:28.080 and the canadian civil liberties association that finally woke up after three years of hitting the

00:12:34.760 snooze button and the canadian constitution foundation those are good guys and the attorney

00:12:43.740 general of canada was there and the attorney general of alberta that is the justice department

00:12:47.960 of alberta intervened on behalf of the protesters on behalf of the people but there's more names yet

00:12:55.660 jeremiah jost edward cornell vincent gurseys and harold aristow

00:13:01.580 canadian citizens who were willing to put their names forward as the official applicants

00:13:07.500 thank you to them and you can see the list of respondents or defendances are sometimes called

00:13:13.260 governor and council that means cabinet his majesty and right of canada the attorney general

00:13:18.780 the minister of public safety and emergency preparedness so they're just naming the members

00:13:23.780 of cabinet who made the decisions now if you look at this judgment it's over 100 pages long and so

00:13:32.060 there's a table of contents i have not read this whole thing through it's only been out for about an

00:13:37.300 hour or two obviously i haven't read it but let's look at that table of contents introduction overview

00:13:42.580 they talk about the parties that is who was suing and then they go through and you can see they

00:13:48.000 describe who's kristen nagel what's canadian frontline nurses who are the different groups so

00:13:53.600 this is this is like a mini book isn't it this judge knew that this would be very widely read and

00:14:00.760 widely referenced and he was probably quite certain it would be appealed no matter which way he went

00:14:05.300 so i'm sure he put a lot of thought into it because no judge wants to be overturned on appeal

00:14:10.020 the context public health orders protests in ottawa border blockades in ottawa and other border blockades

00:14:17.500 and then invocation of the emergencies act so the first 19 pages is just setting the table for what

00:14:25.240 happened then decision under review what is this court reviewing well the answer is um whoops i just

00:14:35.680 clicked the link on my own version of it and was taken straight to the page the decision under review

00:14:40.160 was um to invoke the emergencies act and that decision is what the court was reviewing because

00:14:47.480 that decision was done under the special law the emergencies act so the proclamation the reasons for

00:14:54.040 the decision the procedural history i'm going to skim forward because even the table of contents is very

00:14:58.560 long um if you go to what's called page four on um on the ruling you can see some of the substantive issues

00:15:10.040 let's go to those was the decision to issue the proclamation unreasonable so i'm on page four

00:15:18.120 of the ruling which is still the table of contents if you want to put that on the screen

00:15:23.680 um ultra virus means outside the powers of the law

00:15:31.140 was there a national emergency that's a good question these are just the different subjects the

00:15:39.220 judge treated i just there's no way we're going to cover 120 pages but i'm just showing you

00:15:43.500 some of the things the judge reviewed was the threats to the security of canada threshold met

00:15:50.480 was there evidence of threats or use of acts of serious violence serious violence is defining the

00:15:58.940 law was there any serious violence pup quiz can you name a single act of serious violence done during

00:16:05.200 the trucker brock uh convoy or blockade i'll wait for you there was not it was peaceful the only act

00:16:14.180 of violence was the shooting of our reporter alexa lava by an out-of-control rcmp officer and that

00:16:19.860 lawsuit just got more interesting didn't it letter c i'm going to go back to the table of contents

00:16:27.620 here did the powers created by the economic order regulations violate sections of the charter and

00:16:35.080 then they list the sections of the charter freedom of thought belief opinion expression freedom of

00:16:39.540 peaceful assembly freedom of association and other sections did the the regulations violate the

00:16:46.740 canadian bill of rights and then the conclusion page 123 of the ruling why don't we go straight

00:16:56.240 there just to read it and if you yeah right perfect paragraph 370 i'm going to read i'm going to skip to

00:17:03.100 the end of the movie at the outset of these proceedings while i had not reached a decision on

00:17:08.880 any of the four applications i was leaning to the view that the decision to invoke the emergencies act

00:17:14.180 was reasonable i considered the events that occurred in ottawa and other locations in january and february

00:17:20.000 2022 went beyond legitimate protest and reflected an unacceptable breakdown of public order i had and

00:17:27.860 continue to have considerable sympathy for those in government who were confronted with this situation

00:17:32.280 had i been at their tables at that time i may have agreed that it was necessary to invoke the act

00:17:37.360 and i acknowledge that in conducting judicial review of that decision i'm revisiting that time with the

00:17:42.220 benefit of hindsight and a more extensive record of the facts and law than that which was before the

00:17:47.060 governor in council so he's starting off by saying i didn't much like the trucker convoy let's read a

00:17:54.360 little bit more my preliminary view of the reasonableness of the decision to invoke martial law

00:18:00.740 may have prevailed following the hearing due to excellent advocacy on the part of counsel for the attorney

00:18:06.660 general of canada had i not taken the time to carefully deliberate about the evidence and submissions

00:18:13.080 particularly those of the canadian civil liberty association the canadian constitution foundation

00:18:18.400 their participation in these proceedings has demonstrated again the value of public interest

00:18:23.180 litigants especially in presenting informed legal argument this case may not have turned out the way it

00:18:28.200 has without their involvement as the private interest litigants were not as capable

00:18:32.420 of marshaling the evidence and argument in support of their applications isn't that an interesting

00:18:36.640 thing to say if i was with those two civil liberties groups i'd be feeling pretty good right now

00:18:40.640 let's keep reading we're almost done i have concluded the decision to issue the proclamation

00:18:47.260 does not bear the hallmarks of reasonableness justification transparency and intelligibility

00:18:54.000 and was not justified in relation to the relevant factual legal constraints

00:18:58.760 that were required to be taken into consideration in my view there can only there can be only one

00:19:05.400 reasonable interpretation of emergencies act sections 3 and 17 and the csesis act and the applicants have

00:19:12.120 established that the legal constraints on the discretion of the government council to declare a public order

00:19:16.000 emergency were not satisfied and for those who remember there has to be a very serious threat to the country

00:19:25.340 like a revolution or an invasion or a serious insurrection that's part one and part two that cannot be fixed with regular law and order

00:19:36.920 there's a two-part test to bring putting the country under martial law part one is there a revolution

00:19:44.080 is there a war is there a general a serious insurrection is there serious violence can't just be a bank robbery

00:19:51.240 can't just be a blockade it has to be a grave existential threat to the country but that in

00:19:58.980 itself is not enough part two is okay so you've got an insurrection okay so you've got a war okay so

00:20:05.560 you've got a terrible thing happening is there any other lesser means to fix the problem

00:20:11.240 obviously that test was not met and that's the value of alberta's intervention will get there because

00:20:20.860 alberta had a blockade you might recall at the coots border crossing between alberta and montana

00:20:25.820 and that blockade was resolved actually if i recall the day before martial law was applied and so my point

00:20:35.900 is this judge didn't like the convoy this judge sympathized with the government but this judge read

00:20:45.600 the law and this judge said and i i haven't read the whole thing but i'm i just hopped to the end here

00:20:52.260 the government did not pass that two-fold test here let's keep reading

00:20:56.020 um well i think i read the key part the applicants have established that the legal

00:21:16.160 constraints on the discretion of the governor in council declare public order emergency were not

00:21:20.100 satisfied that's sort of it right there now i was skimming the ruling before we went on the live

00:21:25.540 stream i was skimming it and i want to go to paragraph 253 olivia can you go to paragraph 253

00:21:31.700 because there was some interesting stuff there that i just want to read out this is a you know

00:21:38.480 what we're going to chew this over and in about 10 minutes we're going to call in a couple of legal

00:21:43.360 experts to help us but i want to skim i want to go up to 253 all right let me know when you're there

00:21:53.180 yeah due to its nature and to the broad powers it grants the federal executive the emergencies act

00:22:00.860 is a tool of last resort the government and council cannot invoke the emergencies act because it is

00:22:09.440 convenient or because it may work better than other tools at their disposal or available to the

00:22:15.600 provinces this does not mean that every tool has to be used and tried to determine that the

00:22:20.800 situation exceeded the capacity or authority of the provinces and in this case the evidence is clear

00:22:25.960 that the majority of the provinces were able to deal with the situation using other federal laws such

00:22:31.580 as the criminal code and their own legislation

00:22:34.160 the section 58 explanation concludes that the ongoing protests had quote

00:22:41.920 created a critical urgent temporary situation that is national in scope and cannot effectively be dealt

00:22:48.560 with under any other law of canada that was the excuse the liberals said and here's what the judge

00:22:54.400 says in response while i agree that the evidence supports that the conclusion that the situation was

00:22:59.120 critical and required an urgent resolution by governments the evidence in my view does not

00:23:05.140 support the conclusion that it could not have been effectively dealt with under other laws of canada as

00:23:10.800 it was in alberta or that it exceeded the capacity or authority of a province to deal with it

00:23:15.740 that was demonstrated not to be the case in quebec and other provinces and territories including

00:23:21.500 ontario except in ottawa for those for these reasons i conclude that there was no national

00:23:31.500 emergency justifying the invocation of the emergencies act and the decision to do so was therefore

00:23:37.900 unreasonable and ultra vides that's latin for outside the power of the government the government can do

00:23:45.340 certain things but it can't do everything it can only do those things passed in law subject to the

00:23:50.620 limits of the constitution so this was the government acting outside of its power acting illegally

00:23:59.020 let me keep going the judge says should i be found to have erred in that conclusion i will proceed

00:24:05.980 to discuss the threshold requirement for that for a public order emergency to be declared it must meet the

00:24:11.260 definition set out in six section 16 of the act was the threats to the security of canada threshold met

00:24:20.780 i'm going to read a little bit more but let me pause for a second and tell you the importance of

00:24:26.700 the paragraphs i just read was there a problem in canada from the government's point of view yeah

00:24:33.820 they didn't like all that horn honking they didn't like parking on the side of the road they didn't like

00:24:40.380 people laughing when they got tickets they didn't like the general middle finger being flipping the bird to

00:24:46.780 trudeau and there may have even been some laws broken i think it really was a bunch of traffic offenses

00:24:55.900 but what this judge is saying is that there was no need to put the country under martial law and that

00:25:06.540 is a requirement to put the country under martial law you can't simply do it because you want to

00:25:10.700 or because you hate the other guy you have to put the country under martial law if there is no other way

00:25:16.780 of dealing with the problem and the importance of that paragraph is that the province of alberta the

00:25:21.660 province of quebec the province of ontario all dealt with the same crisis without the martial law

00:25:29.820 trudeau invoked martial law because he wanted to for political reasons because he was embarrassed

00:25:35.900 by the fact that the truckers were defying him how dare they and that ain't enough boss

00:25:43.820 here i'm going to read a little bit more in section 256 but you see what the judge just did the judge said

00:25:47.660 if i'm wrong there i got some more arguments too because this judge knew that he was going to have

00:25:53.740 his ruling appealed so he said you didn't meet the test

00:26:02.620 this was not a law of last resort you went to this way too early you didn't need to go to this at all

00:26:08.780 alberta cleared the blockade of coups before martial law was brought in i remember the public order inquiry

00:26:14.860 commission the hand scripted judicial inquiry that justin trudeau chose the judge of remember that

00:26:20.220 we called it the trucker commission police force after police force said they didn't need martial

00:26:26.140 law they were fine with it i remember the opp the ontario provincial police said yeah we didn't ask

00:26:30.940 for this we were fine without it let me keep reading section 256 paragraph 256 okay

00:26:38.540 in a general sense it was reasonable for the government to be alarmed at the impact of the blockades

00:26:43.660 and the effects they were having on cross-border trade those effects could be said to fall within

00:26:47.660 a broader sense of threats to the security of canada or more generally the concept of national

00:26:52.860 security um i'm going to skip ahead to 258 in this court after an extensive review of the

00:27:02.140 authorities justice simon noel concluded that national security means at minimum the preservation of the

00:27:07.980 canadian way of life including safeguarding of the security of persons institutions and freedoms in canada

00:27:14.140 259 a broad and flexible interpretation of the words threats to the security of canada

00:27:18.700 could encompass the concerns which led the government to issue the public order emergency declaration

00:27:23.740 had the meaning of those words not been limited by reference to another statute and applying a

00:27:28.940 deferential standard review i would have found that the threshold was satisfied and this is the

00:27:33.260 point i mentioned before however the words threaten threats to the security canada do not stand alone in the

00:27:38.860 act and must be interpreted with reference to the meaning of the terms as it is defined in section

00:27:43.180 two of the ceases act and this is what i mentioned before section 260 threats to the security of canada

00:27:51.580 in section two the ceases act refers to four types of activities only one of the four is relevant to these

00:27:56.780 proceedings under paragraph two c threats to the security of canada means this all right are you

00:28:01.820 ready and this is we're just going to read this slowly here because you have to understand you can't

00:28:07.740 push that martial law button you can't pull the fire alarm for the whole country and torch the chart of

00:28:14.540 rights and freedoms and seize bank accounts and jail your political opponents you can't hit that panic

00:28:20.620 button unless it's a real panic you can't fake it you can't be the boy who cries wolf you can't be

00:28:26.780 justin trudeau looking for a dramatic uh you know part-time drama teacher drama move you need to do what

00:28:34.620 the ceases act requires i'm going to read it now under paragraph 2c threats to the security of canada means

00:28:43.260 activities within or relating to canada directed toward or in support of

00:28:47.820 of the threat or use of acts of serious violence against persons or property for the purpose of

00:28:56.780 achieving a political religious or ideological objective within canada or a foreign state

00:29:05.660 and then the judge continues this definition excludes lawful advocacy protest or dissent unless carried

00:29:13.020 on in conjunction with any of the activities referred to in the poor grant four paragraphs

00:29:17.260 including c paragraph 262 the proclamation that was their calling for martial law specified five

00:29:26.140 reasons to justify the declaration of a public order emergency the first draws directly from the language

00:29:31.100 of the ceases act the second third and fourth reasons pertain to adverse effects on the economy

00:29:36.380 the fifth reason cites the potential for an increase in the level of unrest and violence that would

00:29:41.260 further threaten the safety and security of canadians that's a giveaway right there isn't it

00:29:45.980 it hadn't happened yet and they were saying well this could get worse boss

00:29:50.780 i'm just going to read one more and then we're going to call in our legal experts

00:29:55.580 here's one more paragraph by this judge the first reason specified in the proclamation cites

00:30:01.340 the threat or use of serious violence against persons or property

00:30:04.300 and here's how they just this is how the government describes it the continuing blockades by both

00:30:10.220 persons and motor vehicles that is occurring at various locations throughout canada and the

00:30:14.380 continuing threats to oppose measures to remove the blockades including by force which blockades are

00:30:20.220 being carried on in conjunction with activities that are directed toward or in support of the threat or

00:30:24.780 use of acts of serious violence against persons or property including critical infrastructure

00:30:30.860 for the purpose of achieving a political or ideological objective within canada did that happen it's like

00:30:37.740 they're talking about some terrorist attack or something but we all knew it was hot tubs and bouncy

00:30:45.100 castles all right listen we could spend hours going through this case just reading it but i haven't practiced

00:30:55.180 this law in 20 years i want to go to two guys who are up to their eyeballs in this law

00:31:02.460 who have been fighting for freedom who have been with the truckers since the convoy began i'm talking

00:31:08.540 about keith wilson lawyer for the truckers in ottawa and our friend chad williamson lawyer for the truckers

00:31:14.620 down in coots alberta both of which are referenced in this ruling may i introduce you the legal dream team

00:31:20.380 chad williamson keith wilson great to see you fellas thank you so much for joining this emergency

00:31:26.620 live stream boy we got a lot of brain power on the show now thank god you guys have come to help out

00:31:32.540 how are you guys doing chad how you doing down there in calgary uh dude doing awesome uh ezra cam i

00:31:38.220 mean i've i've been i'm so busy with other matters uh i had uh marty as uh you folks might know as one of

00:31:45.100 the guys that's worked with me on some of the crazier files that we've done uh like storm into my office

00:31:50.380 11 o'clock this morning saying hey did you see the new federal court decision so i've just been

00:31:55.500 trying to uh digest everything as i imagine keith has already had the opportunity to do uh being a

00:32:01.660 couple hours ahead of us out in uh out in ottawa but yet doing great uh what what an what outstanding

00:32:07.660 news and just another dagger into the heart of the beast yeah well that's incredible well thank you

00:32:13.180 and you were down there at that border saloon in coots alberta observing the blockade firsthand a peaceful

00:32:20.380 blockade not one of serious violence use the wording of the law keith wilson i'm not sure if

00:32:25.740 you're in edmonton today or in ottawa you've been between those two cities quite a lot over the last

00:32:30.460 two years you are a lawyer not just for tamara leach but you were the interlocutor you were the

00:32:36.220 negotiator out in ottawa uh tell me first your reaction to this ruling i'm pleasantly surprised i

00:32:44.300 didn't think they had a hope i mean so many court rulings have gone against freedom over the last

00:32:49.180 two years i'm frankly stunned by this and i think the liberals were too let me ask you that first did

00:32:54.380 you expect this or was this just a hope too far to hope i actually was holding out hope uh i'm i'm here

00:33:01.900 in my office in edmonton and um uh i have said many times when people were expressing dismay about the

00:33:11.420 rouleau ruling from the public inquiry and the commission inquiry that justice rouleau led that

00:33:18.460 i was like you know uh you know i thought it was political theater it became pretty clear that's

00:33:24.620 what it was near the end and i was holding out hope that the court would apply the facts to the law

00:33:31.820 and conclude the obvious which is the legal test for the invocation wasn't met uh the coots border

00:33:40.220 was opened on the weekend um in that february of 2022 the windsor and all the other blockades were

00:33:47.260 cleared on the saturday and sunday the trucker leadership in ottawa had negotiated a deal with

00:33:52.620 the mayor of ottawa to relocate the trucks out of the residential areas and consolidate them up onto

00:33:58.380 wellington in front of the prime minister's office and the parliament buildings to give the protest

00:34:04.460 longer staying power and so there was no justification there was no crisis there was no

00:34:10.940 insurrection there was no interference with international trade none of the legal tests were

00:34:14.140 met and the court has confirmed that that is in fact the case the legal test wasn't met but it's

00:34:19.500 went a step further and this is great cause for hope is they also the federal court has said that

00:34:26.380 charter rights were violated so even if they met the test uh to invoke which they didn't the chart

00:34:33.980 chart charter rights were violated section 8 in particular you're right against unlawful search and

00:34:38.140 seizure relating specifically to the outrageous tyrannical act of freezing hundreds of canadians

00:34:45.180 bank accounts and canceling their credit cards you know christia freeland was twitching more than

00:34:49.900 she normally does when she was in front of the mic today and because she as much as anyone was the

00:34:55.660 public face of the marshall law yeah marco mendicino but we learned from the public order inquiry commission

00:35:01.980 that he was just a useful idiot he wasn't even fully briefed by his own staff it was christian

00:35:06.940 freeland that was contacting the banks and saying seize that account seize this account i want to ask you

00:35:13.420 one more thing before we go back to chad for a second keith i know you were negotiating literally day by

00:35:19.020 day even hour by hour out there in ottawa with the ottawa police and i want you to say again what you've

00:35:25.180 told me before which is that there that you were in full communication open communication with the

00:35:32.460 city and with the ottawa police managing the the convoy keeping lanes open moving away from residential

00:35:40.620 areas moving these trucks over there and these trucks over there it was cooperative there was some

00:35:45.260 tension for sure but it was a relationship building on trust and it and you were sort of the official

00:35:52.700 negotiator now i want you to say it in your own words because i don't want to get a word wrong

00:35:57.340 but i believe you've told me that there was a deal there was a deal between the truckers and the city of

00:36:03.980 ottawa and instead of ratifying that deal justin trudeau pulled the trigger on martial law because he

00:36:10.220 didn't want there to be a deal because he wanted that drama teacher drama move you and the truckers in

00:36:17.340 ottawa actually were in full compliance with everything the police wanted but trudeau was

00:36:21.980 worried he was going to lose his moment so he invoked martial law right when you guys had a deal can you

00:36:26.700 tell me if i got that right and fill in any gaps if i got it wrong sure that's absolutely what happened

00:36:32.460 we had the deal on the saturday uh it was publicly announced on the sunday we implemented the deal with

00:36:39.820 the cooperation of the city police you can see footage out there where the trucks are being escorted by

00:36:45.260 police with flashing lights up onto wellington um and we cleared two city blocks on the on the monday

00:36:53.660 uh moved 123 vehicles out um in the residential type areas of downtown and i was in constant

00:37:01.900 communication with the mayor's chief of staff and the city manager steve kanalakis and i still remember

00:37:08.220 on the tuesday we got stopped due to miscommunication with the police because they had to move barricades

00:37:12.460 and we got we're about to move trucks again and they apologized for it all of my text messages

00:37:18.460 have been used in evidence both in the criminal trial for chris and tamara as well as in the public

00:37:23.500 inquiry but the most crucial moment was on the wednesday morning after the invocation of the

00:37:29.420 emergencies act we were ready to move trucks again and i got a phone call from steve k steve kanalakis the

00:37:35.820 city manager for the city of ottawa and he confirmed what i'm about to say in his testimony before the public

00:37:40.940 inquiry his tone was so so like sorrowful and sad and he's like keith we gave it our best shot but the

00:37:50.380 federal government doesn't want this to happen they're blocking any further moves so trudeau had

00:37:56.620 figured out what we were doing in terms of de-escalating the mayor's position was he communicated to us

00:38:02.860 that he said if you move up into wellington and consolidate up there i don't care if you stay there

00:38:07.500 for months because that's where your grievance is with the federal government so that was our move

00:38:12.060 the federal government the trudeau liberals wanted to i think they wanted to send a message to canadians

00:38:17.420 ezra that don't you dare challenge us you'll regret it yeah i think you're so right now chad i want to

00:38:23.420 bring you in here because you have a similar story i think and again i i'm relying on you to correct me

00:38:29.740 because you were the guy down there the cooch blockade you and your partners sort of did rotating

00:38:34.940 shifts and what keith was doing out in ottawa you were that same liaison with the rcmp down

00:38:40.220 there in cooch and i'm really glad you were first of all i'd like you to confirm for me that there was

00:38:44.460 no violence whatsoever and in fact your advice to the truckers was always keep it lawful guys civil

00:38:50.700 disobedience nothing more rambunctious but suddenly i remember it was the day before the invocation of the

00:38:58.540 martial law you correct me if my memory is wrong that the mounties had a big press release we found

00:39:04.940 some shotguns and some hunting rifles not in the saloon but we found them somewhere else and they

00:39:10.700 laid them out in a beautiful photo op and i looked at i said you know that's probably scary to city

00:39:15.420 slickers in toronto or vancouver or ottawa but that's just sort of regular for down there in coots like

00:39:21.020 that's hunting that's duck hunting and and frankly uh that's it's sort of weird if you don't have a gun

00:39:26.940 if you're down in coots i take what keith just said in ottawa and that rcmp um photo op as the

00:39:35.260 liberals panicky attempt to rebrand a completely peaceful movement both in ottawa and in coots

00:39:41.740 to rebrand it as quote serious violence that's the language i just quoted from the csis act that's

00:39:47.500 the language this judge was leaning on they needed evidence of quote serious violence they had none

00:39:54.460 so they broke off the peace deal in ottawa and trumped up oh we found a shotgun guys that'll

00:40:00.940 scare you toronto liberals chad what was it was that was that the feeling you had there in coots

00:40:07.180 uh look ezra so this is going to be a little bit more difficult for me than it might be for keith as

00:40:13.420 you know there's the uh proceedings against uh who are kind of collectively known as the coots four now

00:40:18.940 these are the gents who were uh charged with uh among other things a conspiracy to commit murder

00:40:24.620 obviously they're the subject uh of these uh uh these these these these these alleged gun charges

00:40:31.340 that's currently before the court we don't represent them uh and unfortunately my knowledge uh in respect

00:40:37.500 of that particular case is is is is really quite limited now as you also might know uh there's three

00:40:43.980 other gentlemen uh colloquially known as the coots three who are the alleged organizers of the coots

00:40:51.340 blockade now this is also coming before the courts in a three-week jury trial uh coming up later this

00:40:57.740 spring and we've got another uh pre-trial uh pre-trial applications to be heard close to the end of

00:41:03.420 february on this so these issues are before the courts now now my role down in coots i'm uh i'm i'm

00:41:10.700 i'm okay to acknowledge that we were there to provide uh your standard uh criminal and charter

00:41:17.740 advice to anybody on the ground uh piecemeal as they'd come so the way that we always looked at it

00:41:23.580 is uh there'd be a retainer when someone came up to ask us for a question uh that retain retainer ended

00:41:29.500 after the provision of summary advice and obviously uh those legal services were crowdfunded now we did

00:41:35.820 assist uh and observe some of the negotiations um again that was uh whether that was me or whether

00:41:42.940 that was martin uh it just depends on the timing what what i will say is everything at least from

00:41:50.780 uh kind of an outsider perspective uh after the fact because i was not down there uh at the at the

00:41:57.820 moment when the uh when when the guns were alleged to have been discovered uh uh in in i suppose a trailer

00:42:05.340 um but it it smacked to me ezra that this was uh politically motivated we know that jason kenny was

00:42:11.900 getting a lot of uh pushback from the grassroots conservative movement in rural alberta um and what

00:42:18.540 we've seen at least and while this might be anecdotal in other cases and we've run a ton of these cases

00:42:24.300 whether it's the uh covid uh kind of restaurant rebellion cases and uh the lockdowns um you know looking

00:42:30.780 at uh even even minister gilbo blocking rebel news on twitter uh it's become very apparent to me that

00:42:37.820 so many of these government decisions are almost wholly politically motivated uh and what what's

00:42:45.420 what's even more interesting is they they're all getting smacked down by the court and i suppose that

00:42:50.060 should lend a degree of uh of confidence to kind of the you know the freedom movement but for whatever

00:42:56.220 reason despite all these quite literally hundreds of victories against the uh forces of authoritarianism

00:43:03.420 uh and and and and government overreach i'm still gobsmacked every time there's a victory in the

00:43:09.820 courtroom um what we've seen though is we've seen at least in the case of the federal government

00:43:16.300 a government that has at every single turn acted politically and unconstitutionally whether it's

00:43:22.940 the plastics ban that got overturned and then have the liberals say well uh you know we don't really

00:43:27.900 care about the court's decision or we don't agree with it and then try to perhaps find some other

00:43:32.460 mechanism uh to try to get at the ends there the the the ends that they're looking for also we've seen you know

00:43:40.940 this robust blocking of uh blocking of journalists on twitter we saw you know an rcmp member slam

00:43:47.580 david menzies uh head into a wall when he was just asking some questions if you compare that to the

00:43:53.500 treatment i suppose of rebel news by the police in switzerland during the wef forum uh forum uh it it

00:44:01.980 doesn't take a rocket scientist with more than a couple iq points to rub together to understand that

00:44:07.660 a lot of this stuff is politically motivated and perhaps a lot of this stuff is just coming from

00:44:12.700 uh the office of the pmo again i'm a lawyer and uh my opinion is mostly based on evidence not

00:44:19.180 necessarily anecdotal conclusions uh but it seems like the writing to me is on the wall uh by the time

00:44:24.860 that the uh the emergency measures act was invocated the blockades largely had been cleared um i mean

00:44:31.580 you know freezing bank accounts of single mothers for sending 20 bucks to um you know gofundme or to a

00:44:39.420 bitcoin address uh that smacks of stalinism uh and and and fascism it's it's absolutely unacceptable

00:44:48.460 and i think that uh the court's decision in this case really was a uh a slap back at the government

00:44:54.620 obviously the first thing that the liberals come out and say is that well they're going to appeal it so

00:45:00.460 i guess my optimism needs to be tempered to some degree because we really need to see if they do in

00:45:04.860 fact intend on appealing this decision what an appellate panel at the federal uh at the federal

00:45:09.820 court will uh will rule it's a lengthy decision and i think it's a guarded decision and one thing that i

00:45:16.060 know about what they call first instance judges or uh justices who are basically the first court to hear

00:45:22.940 something is really it's their job to try to render a robust decision uh that can potentially uh have

00:45:31.500 have as limited avenues for appeal as possible so it'll take some creative lawyering i think on the

00:45:37.340 part of uh of the liberal government to try to overturn this decision and i can see that i haven't

00:45:42.620 read the whole ruling yet but i can see in certain cases this judge is writing knowing it would be

00:45:48.060 appealed either way so trying to write a defensively now keith i want to ask you a question this is the

00:45:53.740 second time i've been surprised by a good news judgment the first was in the province of alberta case if i

00:45:58.940 recall it was called ingram and it was a mixed bag but that case challenged the legal authority

00:46:05.420 for many of the public health orders uh that that there was a technical flaw and therefore that the

00:46:10.940 the laws were outside the power ultra virus the government so everything that was done in their name

00:46:16.300 had no basis that was an exciting ruling in itself but it also caused a lot of particular cases

00:46:23.740 including one that i know chad had to be abandoned the case against chris scott the uh proprietor of

00:46:29.420 um the whistle stop diner in mirror alberta so a lot of other cases had reverberations from this now

00:46:36.140 let me ask you um for example uh tamara leach and i think we're going to try and get lawrence

00:46:43.020 greenspawn on the live stream today but if not her but maybe comment on other cases is the invalidation

00:46:50.940 of the emergencies act will that change other prosecution or other litigation out there i i

00:46:58.300 would imagine that those two or three hundred people who have their bank accounts seized would

00:47:01.740 now be in a position to sue the government are there people like tamara leach who are in defensive

00:47:07.740 mode against a criminal prosecution or any of their situations changed i know you're still digesting

00:47:13.660 this law like the rest of us but you think this will have a ripple effect in other litigation

00:47:19.580 i do and oh let me let me go to keith first i'll come right back to you chad go ahead keith

00:47:26.060 the uh first thing the it let me deal with the second question first um the the emergencies act

00:47:35.580 in fact gave power to the federal cover government to use war measures against its own citizens

00:47:45.100 and the court has ruled that two things that the federal government the trudeau liberals the trudeau

00:47:53.260 cabinet did not follow the law and did not have the legal basis to invoke these war measures against its

00:48:03.180 own citizens and that in in addition to that the trudeau cabinet violated canadians charter rights

00:48:12.620 in a way that's not saved by section one not demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society

00:48:17.980 so that means all of their actions were illegal and it means with within the act there's a shield that

00:48:26.940 the government can raise to protect itself against being sued when it invokes these war powers against its citizens

00:48:36.540 because their actions have been struck down as illegal and a violation of the charter the shield's gone too

00:48:44.540 and that means anybody who was harmed by the actions of the federal government through the invocation of the emergencies act

00:48:51.740 by the freezing of their bank accounts the canceling their credit cards can now sue the federal government

00:48:57.100 but i want to issue a lawyer's caution there's an argument that the limitation period runs from the date of the decision

00:49:04.700 which means they have two years from today there's also a potential argument that it runs

00:49:09.660 two years from the harm so everybody anybody who's in this situation that may be in a position to sue because they suffered harm

00:49:16.780 needs to get legal advice and act before february 13th of 2024 so they've only got a couple of weeks

00:49:24.380 wow just in case i think the better argument is that the two years applies later but out of abundance of

00:49:30.700 caution you don't want to have your case struck on the basis that you're out of time so they should act

00:49:34.860 quickly now let me answer your first question um despite rumors i have not found a single person

00:49:42.540 who was charged for their participation in any protest in canada under the emergencies act they

00:49:48.700 were all charged under the criminal code or some municipal statute or like a bylaw or a provincial

00:49:56.380 statute like the traffic safety act for parking in a driving lane um the witnesses the officials and

00:50:03.660 police officers we tested that theory at the public inquiry into the emergencies act in the fall of 2022

00:50:10.220 and the police officials said that they never used the emergencies act to charge anybody

00:50:16.620 all of the charges that were laid were under the criminal code or provincial statutes

00:50:21.020 so unlike ingram the decision in alberta where all the health mandates were struck down people were charged

00:50:27.980 with violating those specific orders businesses were closed on the basis of that the ingram orders that were struck down

00:50:35.180 so there was an immediate more than ripple it was like a dam bursting effect legally on the ingram case

00:50:42.940 this one's different because to my knowledge and the evidence that i've seen to date no one was charged

00:50:48.700 under the emergencies act all of the trials that are going on are on the basis of the criminal code

00:50:52.860 and provincial statutes so but yes people have the right to sue who've been harmed we're talking with

00:50:57.980 keith wilson lawyer for the trucker convoy itself he was the interlocutor in ottawa representing the

00:51:03.580 truckers in a series of negotiations with the local police we're also talking with chad williamson a

00:51:08.940 lawyer for the coots three who was down there in the saloon for days that was one of my favorite

00:51:15.260 moves that rebel news ever did is dispatching a lawyer in real time to assist the truckers who

00:51:22.540 i think were being taken advantage of by unscrupulous rcmp negotiators is how it felt to me and chad went

00:51:28.940 into level the playing field chad i'm going to come back to you for one last comment then we're going to

00:51:33.020 say goodbye to this super duper legal eagle panel i'm going to read a little bit more from the

00:51:39.100 ruling i'm going to start with what you mentioned keith i'm going to talk about the second part of

00:51:44.300 this the first part was there was no national crisis there was no insurrection violence uprising invasion

00:51:52.060 under the cses act definition which i read but the second is what you said the violation of our

00:51:57.820 charter rights there is no pandemic exception in the charter there is no convoy exception in the

00:52:03.740 charter and i'll take our viewers through those sections of the ruling where the judge talks about

00:52:09.500 that but chad let's go to you for a final thought on the ripple effect that this may have keith just

00:52:15.900 said he's unaware of anyone who was prosecuted by a virtue of the emergencies act but how do you i think

00:52:22.540 this changes the tone in the country i think this normalizes the freedom movement and it casts a

00:52:28.780 shadow of doubt on the enforcers i think during the pandemic there was a false consciousness of

00:52:34.220 unanimity we all agree with this everyone supports us 95 of people are getting the jab all five political

00:52:40.780 parties said the national leaders debate agree on this you're a rogue contrarian skeptical conspiracy

00:52:47.500 theorist if you disagree i think today's ruling changes the mood in the entire country and we're

00:52:54.540 going to go to the cbc's coverage in a minute to see how they're handling this terrible day

00:52:57.820 from their point of view i think that if nothing else this changes how canadians look at things and

00:53:03.980 it couldn't happen in a worse time for trudeau the man has rock bottom credibility and this just

00:53:09.260 hammers at home that the guy was a wicked liar who invoked the emergencies act for his own purpose not for

00:53:14.700 the law what's your feeling about what this does to the world well again so just to come full circle

00:53:20.860 ezra i mean well first of all i just like to say how humbled i am every time i get to hear uh keith

00:53:26.700 expound uh you know his wisdom from up in the snowy glaciers of uh of edmonton alberta or if he's out in

00:53:33.740 ottawa from there uh keith has such a remarkable way of um uh of concisely uh uh wrapping complicated

00:53:43.260 issues into a nice package that's digestible for a layman's audience and uh that's that's absolutely

00:53:49.420 critical so keith uh big thanks there i echo his uh his lawyer's concern um what we've seen in alberta

00:53:56.860 ezra is uh as as keith had mentioned um we saw since the ingram decision we've seen a deluge of civil

00:54:04.540 litigation crop up against the alberta government for subjecting people to measures that have now deemed to

00:54:09.660 be unlawful what we saw in ottawa with the freezing of of bank accounts especially for people who may

00:54:16.060 might not have a lot of money especially when there's this disproportionality where we've got

00:54:20.060 someone that you know contributed 20 bucks and had their uh bank accounts frozen for the complicity of

00:54:25.820 the banks uh there might be liability obviously for the federal government for uh some of those

00:54:30.620 maneuvers but what struck me the most is watching uh uh row upon row of jack booted police using batons

00:54:38.940 against peaceful protesters trampling people with riot horses um and clearing those streets in the

00:54:45.980 method that they did i frankly i think that there could potentially be liability there anyway um but

00:54:52.540 i i think that this might add some more ammunition uh into the cartridge uh to fuel some of those

00:54:58.460 potential civil claims obviously people need to seek legal advice if they think that uh they have a claim

00:55:03.980 that arises out of the uh emergency the use of the emergency measures act the one thing that i would

00:55:10.140 like to say ezra and you've got some more news about another twitter win uh that you might be uh sharing

00:55:17.580 with uh the rebel viewership at some point but again what we're seeing is trudeau's government dragged

00:55:23.180 through the mud again and again by clever counsel uh and by a court that may have had enough of uh this

00:55:31.420 government's uh propensity to um to act in an unlawful unconstitutional unreasonable unjustified

00:55:39.740 um you know lacking transparency and a completely unintelligible fashion uh to keep people under the

00:55:47.900 thumb of its ambit and uh i don't know maybe the tide is turning i think trudeau's days are numbered to be

00:55:53.740 honest with you i'm not going to crystal ball gaze but uh um you know the the distaste is pal is is is

00:56:00.300 palpable yeah well let me tell you i'm i'm very grateful to both of you guys you're busy lawyers

00:56:05.820 with important work and this came out so suddenly it certainly caught me by surprise uh and for you

00:56:12.300 guys to bring your big smarts to bear so quickly for our viewers uh right now we have about 8 000

00:56:17.740 people watching concurrently between the four platforms we're on we have about 2300 on youtube

00:56:24.140 we have about uh 5 400 on rumble we have more on getter and odyssey so a lot of people listening

00:56:31.420 your wisdom of course people will watch this on the replays also so i think that you guys really are

00:56:35.900 talking to a big audience of canadians and others around the world who care about freedom and are

00:56:40.300 relieved that our judicial system is still capable of holding powerful people to account so keith wilson

00:56:47.820 out there in edmonton and chad williamson uh down there in the calgary area thanks to both of you

00:56:53.500 keep fighting for freedom i know you will and i'll take to heart your admonition that if anyone was

00:56:58.300 violated during the emergencies act including financially it behooves you to get legal advice

00:57:04.620 quickly because you may have only about three weeks left to file a lawsuit so in fact you may even

00:57:12.140 wish to contact the two lawyers on our screen now keith wilson and chad williamson thanks

00:57:17.180 fellas keep up the great work thank you very much thanks so much both to keith and ezra thank you guys

00:57:24.060 thank you okay well here's what i want to do we've got on standby lawrence greenspawn he is the criminal

00:57:30.460 lawyer representing tamara leach out there in ottawa as you know the democracy fund is crowdfunding her

00:57:37.900 legal defense if you want to help her you can go to help tamara.com as soon as we have lawrence let

00:57:43.580 me know olivia because we'll go straight to him um but in the meantime i want to read part of the

00:57:50.220 ruling which i referred to earlier i think it's paragraph uh let me just go from memory here i think

00:57:55.500 it's paragraph 351 and remember what keith wilson said that there's sort of two ways the judge knocked

00:58:03.900 down trudeau the first is he said you didn't meet the test there had to be a national crisis like a

00:58:12.700 revolution or a major terrorist attack or an invasion like something of that grave in nature

00:58:18.780 to justify deploying wartime measures against your own people and you can't just find it convenient you

00:58:25.180 can't just say well this is fun and pr savvy you have to use it as last resort and the test is

00:58:33.900 serious violence and an existential threat that obviously didn't happen anywhere so the judge says

00:58:39.020 step one you didn't do what the law required but you remember what keith said he said step two

00:58:48.540 you also violated people's charter rights because even in a crisis we still have certain rights

00:58:55.820 and i want to read from section 351 of the ruling go ahead and put it on the screen we're going to

00:58:59.740 read this together i've i've only glanced at this so we're going to read it together

00:59:03.820 so conclusion on section one justification so just so to remind you how the chart of rights works

00:59:09.500 there's um there's a list of fundamental freedoms uh called section two of the constitution is my

00:59:17.180 favorite part freedom of thought belief freedom of expression freedom of speech freedom of assembly

00:59:22.380 freedom of association all the core civil liberties but they're not absolute they're subject to

00:59:30.540 reasonable limitations that can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society

00:59:37.260 that's almost the exact wording of section one of our constitution so no one would deny that the

00:59:43.100 emergencies act infringed on our freedoms that you'd be crazy to say so and and the true government was

00:59:48.220 not that crazy they would just argue that well it's demonstrably justifiable in a free and democratic

00:59:53.660 society so let's read what the judge said together okay paragraph 351 there was no real dispute between

01:00:02.780 the parties that the government had a pressing and substantial objective when they enacted the

01:00:06.540 measures to clear out the blockades that had formed as part of the protest um i'm going to skip to

01:00:12.940 paragraph 352 i agree with the respondent the government that the objective was pressing and

01:00:20.140 substantial and that there was a rational connection between freezing the accounts

01:00:25.180 and the objective to stop funding the blockades however the measures were not

01:00:29.020 minimally impairing minimal impairment requires that the measures affect the rights as little as reasonably

01:00:38.220 possible they must be carefully tailored the regulations and economic order failed the minimal

01:00:44.220 impairment test for two reasons one they were applied throughout canada and two there were less

01:00:49.420 impairing alternatives available let me stop for a second so what the judge is saying is okay so you

01:00:53.980 wanted to stop funding the convoy but you used a sledgehammer instead of a more precise tool and the law

01:01:01.500 requires you if you're a government you're going to violate people's civil liberties you have to do it

01:01:06.140 in the smallest way you can you can't just you can't invoke martial law nationwide you can't hit a fly

01:01:14.140 with a with a jackhammer let's read on from paragraph 354 the scope of the declaration and the measures

01:01:21.900 could have been limited to ontario which faced the most intransigence intransigent situation and

01:01:27.660 possibly albert although the coot situation had been resolved when the act was invoked elsewhere the

01:01:33.260 authorities were able to use existing legislative tools such as the criminal code and provincial public

01:01:37.260 safety statutes to remove blockades and prevent new ones from being established without the threat or use of

01:01:41.580 serious violence from the protesters the respondent the government's position is that it was necessary to apply the

01:01:48.220 measures across canada because the participants in the several blockades came from across the country

01:01:53.580 as did their financial support that may have been a compelling reason if there was evidence that the

01:01:57.820 measures would not have achieved their objective if they did not have effect throughout the country

01:02:01.180 but that evidence was not part of the respondents record the judge is saying the government didn't prove

01:02:05.420 any of that paragraph 356 those that were targeted by the economic order appear to have all been

01:02:13.340 president the major blockade sites notably ottawa and there's no evidence that the financial institutions

01:02:18.860 would have refused to cooperate with the implementation of the measures if for example

01:02:23.100 their account holders resided in prince edward island or the territories which had no illegal protests

01:02:28.060 and had traveled to ottawa to participate in the blockade

01:02:32.300 the respondent acknowledges that the suspension of bank accounts and credit cards affected joint account holders

01:02:37.980 and credit cards issued on the accounts to other family members and suggested it was unavoidable

01:02:44.300 indeed the jost applicants those are some of the citizens submitted evidence of that happening to

01:02:48.780 one of them thus someone who had nothing to do with the protests could find themselves without the means to

01:02:54.380 access necessaries for household and other family purposes while the accounts were suspended there appears

01:03:00.060 to have been no effort made to find a solution that problem while the measures were in effect

01:03:03.900 i mean i mean one married couple doesn't have a joint bank account doesn't have a joint credit card

01:03:08.380 and so if a husband or a wife or a son or whatever is at the protest the whole family has their bank

01:03:14.620 account seized good luck buying food groceries rent the judge says that was not a minimal impairment

01:03:20.460 what are you doing punishing a wife or a son or a husband when they're not the ones involved let me

01:03:24.780 keep reading paragraph 358 a particular concern from a section one justification perspective

01:03:31.900 is that there was no standard applied to determine whether someone should be the target of the

01:03:36.220 measures or process to allow them to question that determination as described by superintendent

01:03:41.740 baudouin and cross-examination it was all informal and ad hoc in fact i remember reading a news story

01:03:48.220 that it was basically they gathered up cbc articles and anyone named in the cbc article had their accounts

01:03:53.740 banned there was no process it truly was a state broadcaster hunting down enemies of the state

01:03:59.820 paragraph 359 having found that the infringements of charter sections 2b and 8 were not minimally

01:04:09.500 impairing i find that they were not justified under section one so there you have it i wanted to read

01:04:15.340 those sections to you because they were that second part of the story that keith wilson referred to namely

01:04:22.380 um the government did not follow the law there was not a serious violence there was not an insurrection

01:04:30.540 there was not a war there was not a revolution the government lied about that they did not act within

01:04:35.100 the law they exceeded their powers and number two the way they used the law was illegal as well

01:04:40.860 they violated the charter now how are we doing in connecting with with lawrence greenspond

01:04:46.060 pardon me okay we need a little bit more time let's take that time are there any super chats or

01:04:54.540 rumble chats rumble rants that we can read are there any of those no okay if folks want me to read their

01:05:00.540 comments feel free to make a rumble rant or rumble chat i want to see how the cbc is handling this this

01:05:08.540 must be a very dark day for them can you go to the cbc and uh can you let's read it together i'm

01:05:19.020 laughing in advance i'm laughing in advance federal government's decision to invoke emergencies act

01:05:25.980 against convoy protest was unreasonable court rules government says it plans to appeal to the decision so

01:05:31.180 let's stop right there it's not justin trudeau's decision it's not christia freeland's decision here's

01:05:38.220 how it works at the cbc if there's good news trudeau did this freeland did that if it's good

01:05:44.300 news it's very personal or liberals do this but if it's bad news you'll never see the word trudeau or

01:05:49.660 liberal it's the federal government decision to invoke emergencies act against convoy protest was

01:05:57.500 unreasonable well it did say that but it said a lot more than that didn't it it said it was

01:06:03.100 illegal unjustifiable and unconstitutional isn't it funny that the cbc says it was just

01:06:08.140 unreasonable yeah it wasn't reasonable guys no it was it was breaking the law you government hacks you

01:06:15.660 paid for propagandists i have to tell you again that if you need an adjective next to the word

01:06:22.060 journalist you're not a journalist so these government journalists of the cbc state broadcaster

01:06:28.540 are wicked liars never trust the cbc they were the number one haters during the convoy they were the ones

01:06:35.820 who compiled the enemies list that was blacklisted and had their credit cbc were the running dogs the

01:06:43.420 stocking horses they were the ones that rounded up the truckers by publishing their names that then went

01:06:50.940 uh to have their bank accounts seized can you put that cbc news story up again i want to read it

01:06:56.780 let's scroll down a little bit i haven't read this yet but i know it's going to be good

01:07:07.020 a federal judge says the liberal government's use of the emergencies act in early 2022 to clear convoy

01:07:11.740 protesters was unreasonable and infringed on protesters charter rights i concluded there was no national

01:07:18.540 emergency justifying the invocation of the emergencies act and the decision to do so was

01:07:21.980 therefore unreasonable and ultra viris federal court justice richard mosley wrote in a tuesday

01:07:28.060 decision ultra viris is a latin term used by courts to refer to actions beyond the scope of the law

01:07:34.060 deputy prime minister christia freeland told reporters at a cabinet retreat in montreal that

01:07:37.580 the government plans to appeal the decision where is trudeau where is that little man coward why is he not

01:07:45.420 owning this i know why he wants to push it off on twitchy and he wants headlines like the federal

01:07:51.820 government did something wrong so far i haven't seen justin trudeau's name in this report yet have you

01:07:57.500 let's keep reading the federal court case was brought by two national groups the canadian

01:08:03.820 civil liberty association and the canadian constitution foundation and two people whose

01:08:08.300 bank accounts were frozen they argued ottawa did not meet the legal threshold

01:08:11.580 when it invoked the legislation which had never been used before that's a good point to remind

01:08:16.460 remember right there not even during 9 11 was this used trudeau thought that this was the worst crisis

01:08:23.020 canada has had in a generation was it really some hot tubs and bouncy castles

01:08:29.500 thousands of protesters angry with the government's response to the covet 19 pandemic including vaccine

01:08:33.980 requirements descended on ottawa in january of 2022 and blocked border points elsewhere the

01:08:39.180 protesters parked large vehicles on key arteries in the capital city for nearly a month and honked

01:08:44.220 their horns incessantly for days you okay guys okay heard some horns honking i hope you're okay

01:08:51.740 uh the government invoked the emergencies act on february 14 2022 it gave law enforcement

01:08:57.580 extraordinary powers to remove and arrest protesters and gave the government the power to freeze the

01:09:01.020 finances of those connected to the protest what does that mean connected to

01:09:04.620 the temporary emergency powers also gave authorities ability to commandeer tow trucks

01:09:10.060 to remove protesters vehicles from the streets of the capital by the way let me tell you that the

01:09:14.460 criminal code gives police that power too i don't know if you know that you don't need an emergencies act

01:09:19.980 to commandeer a vehicle police can commandeer a vehicle of yours right now under the criminal code so

01:09:26.060 that's the cbc showing their lack of knowledge i see on our um series of monitors that uh one of my

01:09:35.820 favorite lawyers in the country is now on standby i've gotten to know tamara leach over the last year

01:09:41.500 i really didn't know i hadn't met her even spoken with her uh before she was arrested but over the

01:09:45.580 course of last year i've gotten to know her fairly well i've gone on tour with her we've published her

01:09:49.260 book which is national bestseller just outstanding and over the course of the last six months or so i've

01:09:55.020 had the pleasure to meet with and speak to lawrence greenspawn who's a leading criminal lawyer in the

01:10:00.140 city of ottawa who has taken what we all thought would be a case for a couple of weeks it's now

01:10:04.460 stretching on the better part of the year and i'm absolutely delighted to bring him on the show now

01:10:09.980 a man i truly you know god forbid i ever get charged with the crime myself and may it never

01:10:14.140 happen and it never has but god forbid if it does uh lawrence i uh i hope you would take me as a

01:10:20.300 client because i've been so impressed with your work for tamara leach and thank god you're there

01:10:24.940 for her and by the way thanks for taking some time to appear on our live streaming about 8 000

01:10:29.500 people watching concurrently right now give me your reaction to this astonishing ruling by the federal

01:10:35.580 court which caught me by surprise maybe you thought it was coming but boy i'm surprised give me your

01:10:40.780 reaction well first off thanks for the uh the very very kind words uh ezra um you don't want to need

01:10:48.540 me but if you ever do i'm there for you okay um this this is you know what we've been saying all along

01:10:57.500 uh the those of the various organizations that appeared before uh the rouleau commission

01:11:04.460 we're saying just this this is this was an unnecessary overreaction uh to uh what was certainly in ottawa a

01:11:15.020 uh a peaceful protest and uh what uh mr justice mosley who by the way has has is a very experienced federal

01:11:26.780 court judge and has been there for oh 30 years he's a former crown attorney and uh he knows of what he

01:11:35.820 he speaks he's found that these uh temporary uh incredibly uh powerful measures were unconstitutional

01:11:46.140 and uh of course the the knee-jerk reaction of the government is oh yeah we're going to appeal

01:11:51.900 but you know before they appeal this judgment from from it's 190 pages it's thorough it's it's damning and uh

01:12:02.300 they come to the conclusion that that we've been saying all along which is that these emergency

01:12:07.900 measures were completely unnecessary i had a quick skim of the judgment i don't even think that there was

01:12:16.060 the kind of evidence that we've heard in the uh tamara leach chris barber trial about all of the

01:12:23.420 efforts by the demonstrators to try and reduce the footprint i mean those were ongoing pursuance to an

01:12:30.540 agreement as you know which was reached with the mayor of ottawa on february the 12th and chris barber

01:12:36.620 and and many others had already taken all kinds of steps trying to reduce the footprint of the impact

01:12:43.580 of the demonstrators on the downtown core and the residents of the downtown core i don't even see any

01:12:49.420 mention of that in the mosley decision uh but when you when you look at that and you look at what was going on

01:12:56.060 almost from the start of the demonstration the efforts to try and reduce the footprint uh there

01:13:03.260 was absolutely no need uh for trudeau to do what he did and uh not only that there was some question

01:13:12.060 about did he even realize did anybody actually tell him about what was going on in the streets right in

01:13:18.140 front of parliament because you know there was a a genuine effort on a daily basis they had actually

01:13:24.780 already moved 40 of the big rigs uh had been moved uh and and this was part of a the agreement that had

01:13:34.060 been struck with the mayor um there was absolutely not not no need for the emergencies act and every

01:13:40.780 reason not to use these kinds of very powerful measures yeah we spoke earlier with keith wilson who

01:13:48.700 was a lawyer negotiator for the truckers who was on in daily in fact you could even say hourly

01:13:55.100 communication with city officials police officials mayor's office um to proactively you you're using the

01:14:02.060 the phrase phrase reduce the footprint i would say reduce the temperature reduce the friction

01:14:09.100 and you said well it sounds like trudeau didn't know about it a darker interpretation which i would

01:14:14.940 choose is that trudeau absolutely did know about it and that's why he pulled the trigger on february 14th

01:14:21.820 because he didn't want this peace deal that the truckers had negotiated with the city coming into

01:14:26.380 effect i think he realized whoa i'd better if i'm going to use the emergencies act i better do it now

01:14:31.580 because everything is getting calm and calm remember the coots blockade had ended in advance of this

01:14:38.380 so he was running out of justification i think he pulled the trigger because he wanted me to be dramatic

01:14:43.820 like his father had been during the flq crisis some 50 years ago and i think that and that was you

01:14:51.420 know a lot of people had their doubts about that from a civil liberties point of view but trudeau didn't

01:14:55.740 even follow the law we were just going through the the law it had to have a serious violence in the

01:15:00.620 order of a revolution or a war or or a true insurrection lawrence was there any violence whatsoever

01:15:07.900 in ottawa that you know of during the entire time the convoy was there i i don't know of any violence

01:15:17.020 on the contrary i mean if there had been uh the crown as you know has now closed their case uh in our

01:15:24.940 in the lich barber uh trial they've closed their case you can be sure that if there was any violence

01:15:31.900 um they would have it would have been front and center in the in the trial uh it's there wasn't any

01:15:39.100 i i mean really what the problem was uh with the demonstrators uh is at least in ottawa was ever and

01:15:46.700 most canadians will say this oh yeah i'm all in favor of the freedom of expression and uh right to

01:15:53.260 peaceful assembly they're all in favor of that uh but then unfortunately most canadians will say yeah

01:15:58.380 but they it lasted too long it was annoying it was inconvenient well you know constitutional i don't

01:16:05.740 have to tell you that constitutional rights there's no time limit on them and uh there there's a reason

01:16:12.060 that they're called fundamental freedoms and they're enshrined in our constitution and they shouldn't be

01:16:17.500 messed with because the prime minister of the day thinks it well it's i'm going to look good if i come

01:16:24.300 out tough like my dad well when trudeau the senior said you know in answer to the question what would

01:16:30.620 you do in response to uh uh what's going on and and he turned on his heel and said just watch me

01:16:39.260 canadians across the country were going wow that's great he's a tough guy and he's going to deal with

01:16:43.740 this situation uh that was not the scenario in february of 2022 it just it was a completely

01:16:51.900 different non-violent scenario there were there are no cabinet ministers that were being kidnapped or

01:16:57.100 killed um it's far from it and uh what this judgment does is it basically says look this was this was

01:17:04.700 crushing a peanut with a with a sledgehammer when you know the peanut was just lying there there was no

01:17:10.380 violence yeah you know i uh there's a zeitgeist that's german for the spirit of the times

01:17:19.260 and a couple years ago the zeitgeist in canada was conformity i remember when the democracy fund

01:17:24.700 got started there was a tremendous time finding lawyers who were willing to fight against pandemic

01:17:31.180 uh prosecutions or i mean the lawyers themselves and many lawyers are are contrarian and like being

01:17:38.460 dissenters especially in the criminal bar it was very hard to find lawyers who were willing to take

01:17:42.700 on this juggernaut and i think that conformity was part of the power of it oh you're not an anti-vaxxer

01:17:50.780 are you you're not a conspiracy theorist are you and i think the trucker convoy sort of broke that fake

01:17:56.300 unanimity but in the legal in the in the courts it still was overwhelmingly the courts sort of upheld a

01:18:03.580 lot of these rules i feel that today today's ruling sort of grants permission to other judges and lawyers

01:18:12.060 to say okay wait a minute maybe we went too far maybe the pendulum swung too far and here we have a

01:18:18.940 sober-minded judge going through and saying yeah it just wasn't enough to justify it and some of the

01:18:25.900 mania that was here two years ago wasn't justifiable like i think back to how montreal literally had a

01:18:31.820 curfew from 10 p.m till 5 a.m whether you were jabbed or not and people went along with that that

01:18:36.940 that's a kind of madness of crowds i feel like this ruling is sort of puncturing that balloon

01:18:44.220 and changes this feeling in the air and hopefully that'll redound to the benefit of tamara leach in

01:18:48.940 your trial i don't know maybe that's two feelings ish of a thing to say but i feel like the the national

01:18:54.620 temperament has just changed today what do you think well as i i think that uh as long as this

01:19:01.020 ruling gets upheld uh and i'm i'm quite confident it will be uh the matters is going to be you know taken up

01:19:09.980 the line and uh i think the irony is that you know the the very charter of rights and freedoms that uh

01:19:17.980 dad brought back to canada uh is now being uh has now been uh successfully used as a way of undermining

01:19:28.700 the son uh justin uh his actions in declaring an emergency and and uh uh the irony is is certainly

01:19:37.100 not lost but i mean you know of course the government is going to appeal this and and make their arguments i

01:19:43.100 just don't see how it is that uh with this kind of a ruling uh this it you know you look back at the

01:19:51.660 ruleau commission you say well how was it that at the end of the day there it was uh concluded that uh

01:19:59.260 this was a national emergency that warranted this kind of um emergency powers and uh this this judgment

01:20:07.580 certainly goes the other way and i i you know in the time that i've had to review it it seems to be

01:20:12.700 extremely well reasoned and it's thorough and uh my hope is that it'll be uh properly upheld as it

01:20:19.580 moves up to the supreme court of canada well listen it's great to connect with you it's nice to see

01:20:23.980 you uh before we say goodbye can you give us a one minute update on what happens next in the case

01:20:30.620 against tamara leach i mean i would have thought that this case i mean i don't even think it should

01:20:36.140 have gone to court at all but i would have thought it would be over very quickly it's now stretching

01:20:40.780 well into its second uh calendar year um what are the next milestones that supporters at tamara leach

01:20:48.940 can look forward to in this court case against her we uh expect to receive a decision from the trial

01:20:58.380 judge uh on march the 7th uh that'll deal with the uh with the evidentiary matters of whether uh the

01:21:06.140 evidence uh of conversations uh that uh that chris barber had can be used against tamara leach and

01:21:13.420 vice versa uh this is so-called uh conspiracy type of uh motion that the uh the crown has brought

01:21:24.620 there'll be a decision by the trial judge on that uh and then march 13 to 15 will be bringing a motion

01:21:32.140 uh in order to deal with the charges uh my hope and then the judge will need some time to rule on

01:21:38.700 that so we'll be we'll stretch into april may uh before there's any decision that needs to be made as

01:21:45.660 to whether or not we're going to call any evidence wow this thing really is as they say the process

01:21:52.860 is the punishment and i i was in court briefly but we've had a rebel news reporter in court every

01:21:59.500 single day of the hearing and our friends at the democracy fund have been there too because we think

01:22:04.300 it's a very important trial um for for many people in the country and it's important that they get the

01:22:09.820 kind of reports that we're doing i just want to say one last thing while we have lawrence on the line

01:22:14.940 um we need to crowdfund tamara leach's case and lawrence and his two uh deputy lawyers are on this they

01:22:25.100 have been on this case like i say it's going to stretch close to a year and we didn't expect that

01:22:33.420 and so we've got a crowd fund for them to continue on the file and i would like

01:22:37.500 viewers who love tamara leach to go to help tamara dot com that's a special website if you make a

01:22:45.260 donation there you actually get a charitable tax receipt because it's going through the democracy fund

01:22:50.700 which is a registered civil liberties public interest law firm so i just wanted to say that

01:22:55.580 we've got about 9 000 folks watching this right now and if those folks haven't yet had a chance to

01:23:01.580 help tamara i really believe a lot turns on that case lawrence because they want to convict her and

01:23:09.500 thereby denormalize the whole political movement behind her whereas if she's acquitted which i think

01:23:16.140 there's a very good chance that will vindicate her in the whole political movement so that will be

01:23:21.820 as important a case as the federal court ruling today so i just wanted to mention if folks are as

01:23:27.100 impressed with lawrence as i am and they want tamara to win as much as i do please go to help tamara.com

01:23:33.020 and you will get a charitable tax receipt so uh that money comes out of trudeau's revenue canada so

01:23:38.940 it's a win-win last word to you lawrence uh well let's uh let's see uh how this unfolds but uh you're

01:23:46.940 quite right it's it's taken way longer than uh than anybody could have anticipated uh but it's it's not

01:23:54.300 the first time that the the fight for freedoms uh has been on the back of what is uh a relatively minor

01:24:02.540 criminal charge uh we're going to keep fighting and uh thanks for your support right on well we will

01:24:08.700 support you and no regular person could bear this cost on their own not even a millionaire a millionaire

01:24:14.140 would plead guilty millionaires are smart they would say this is nuts i'm not going to spend my

01:24:18.220 entire life savings on this i'm just going to plead guilty and walk away but tamara leach is a

01:24:22.140 principled person but she's not a gazillionaire the only way this works is if thousands of ordinary

01:24:27.820 people chip in 10 bucks or 20 bucks or 50 bucks which is what we're going to do we'll say goodbye

01:24:31.900 to lawrence right now with our best wishes thanks for joining us on short notice lawrence um well

01:24:37.500 there you have it very interesting we've talked with three very smart lawyers in the freedom

01:24:41.660 movement today each one of them in the heart of the battle chad williamson one of my favorite guys

01:24:48.780 was down there at the saloon at the coots border crossing between alberta and montana keith wilson

01:24:56.140 was a lawyer for the trucker convoy who was their um negotiator with the police in the city who got a deal

01:25:03.420 done and it's my belief that that's why trudeau pulled the trigger and then of course uh our friend

01:25:09.020 lawrence greenspawn there who is representing tamara leach which i believe will be as momentous

01:25:14.300 a case as the one we're looking at today now i did call for super chats and chit chats and

01:25:20.620 rumble rants annalisa 1964 great to hear from you again chipped in 20 bucks

01:25:25.900 says great coverage jester well thanks very much

01:25:27.980 medic deb has 10 bucks says god bless rebel news well that's very nice of you thank you

01:25:34.220 bedrock five bucks what would be required for trudeau freeland to be held personally accountable

01:25:38.460 for these decisions if it is confirmed to be illegal well what they did was done it wasn't

01:25:44.140 done secretly it wasn't done um outside the processes of the government so i don't think

01:25:50.060 that they would be personally accountable unless there was some proof of malicious prosecution or abuse

01:25:55.180 of office which i don't think yet has been proved or met uh but i think the proper uh

01:26:01.180 punishment for them is political disgrace and i would encourage people to go to our website

01:26:06.060 trudeau must resign of course he won't resign but he should

01:26:10.940 fraser me bernie our old friend chips in five smackers and says welcome back ezra great reports

01:26:15.340 from the world economic forum in london well thanks very much i'm back glad to be back in toronto i'm

01:26:19.660 a tiny bit jet lagged i will not lie but it's good to be here just a bot says five bucks we the

01:26:27.820 public and you the media have let judge rollo off the hook um too eat off too easy for betraying the

01:26:35.580 people of canada somebody needs to hold his feet to the fire yeah that was a bit of a stitch up as

01:26:40.380 the brits would say a hand-picked liberal judge with a handwritten mandate from trudeau himself as

01:26:45.820 opposed to a real judge which who spoke today akabela 03 20 bucks says i credit the popularity

01:26:52.460 of polyev for increasing the will of the court to uphold the law sad to see our judiciary cowing to

01:26:58.220 political winds we need separation of the government and judiciary i'm not sure if i'm going to credit

01:27:03.420 peer polyev on that i'd have to check the dates of the hearing um in fact maybe i'll do that right away

01:27:09.820 uh because i think i don't i don't think that this uh

01:27:16.460 i don't think it was happening uh at the time i think your timing is a little bit wrong

01:27:20.940 i think this appeal happens well actually i don't i don't remember the timing but i i don't think you're

01:27:26.140 right on that and i don't think this judge is someone who has his finger on the pulse of partisan

01:27:31.260 politics it just don't it just doesn't feel that way it could be right but i i'm a skeptic

01:27:35.420 um all right well listen it's a three a 42 we've been giving her for an hour and a half and i feel

01:27:41.340 like we've covered some good ground i'm going to look at our internal chat here um to make sure

01:27:46.940 there's nothing i should have covered uh that i haven't is there anything olivia you think that

01:27:53.660 we should cover that we haven't done yet i think we've covered most of it um we had keith wilson

01:28:00.700 chad williamson and christian freeland i saw dominic leblanc out of the corner of my eye

01:28:05.420 make a statement is he the new public safety minister is that why let's take a look at that

01:28:10.780 i doubt he said anything interesting again he's just going out there to block for his leader justin

01:28:15.660 trudeau what a coward trudeau is he puts christian freeland and dominic leblanc out there uh let's take

01:28:20.620 a look at what leblanc had to say i doubt it's interesting but let's let's give it a listen

01:28:23.980 i think it's important to remember the context almost two years ago uh today uh those weeks uh in

01:28:33.660 late january and february two years ago uh the public safety and the national security context

01:28:40.780 i was in ottawa during those weeks as were my colleagues i participated in the cabinet discussions

01:28:47.420 we were updated by senior officials about the risks of uh copycat incidents at other border

01:28:54.220 crossings i spoke to premiers from british columbia to nova scotia about risks uh to their uh community

01:29:02.220 safety uh we saw border crossings and the damage to the canadian economy thousands of jobs put at risk

01:29:10.140 we spoke with the premier of ontario and the government of ontario that supported the invocation

01:29:15.900 of the emergencies act two years ago i think that's an important moment i think it's also

01:29:20.460 important to consider the government was given information uh with respect to the disruption at

01:29:25.580 the border crossing in coots alberta uh it's not banal when the security services tell you that

01:29:32.220 they found two pipe bombs and 36 000 rounds of munition uh and ended up laying criminal charges as

01:29:40.060 serious as conspiracy to commit murder uh and assaulting peace officers so the context is

01:29:46.780 important i think it's also important to note that the house of commons ratified the decision to invoke

01:29:53.820 but as my colleague said the the judicial system also includes uh appeal mechanisms and the government's

01:30:01.180 made that decision but i certainly as a minister who participated in those discussions and who spoke to

01:30:06.700 premiers across the country uh i'm very satisfied that we made a reasonable decision uh and will now

01:30:12.700 let the appeal courts uh consider uh the filings from my colleagues what a crooked little liar um i love

01:30:20.620 how he's trying to scapegoat well you know the premier of ontario said he was fine with what we did

01:30:27.180 um and you know the house of commons uh you know the liberals and the ndp voted for this man

01:30:34.060 so you know sure a judge laid out in 150 pages of detail why what we did was illegal but you know

01:30:43.340 like like i voted for it and like doug fort said he was fine so uh can i go now what a you know what

01:30:51.500 i i tell you i i cannot remember a less impressive cabinet than trudeau has assembled dominic leblanc

01:30:58.620 i think was part of his wedding party you know that old picture of trudeau's wedding party um they're

01:31:03.900 all drunk and tremus o'regan's there and mark miller's there do you have that picture can you google

01:31:10.300 trudeau wedding party i think dominic leblanc was there and the the thing is yeah that's it there

01:31:18.220 and the one on the left if you can pump it up as big as possible

01:31:26.380 oh no it's it's so sorry that is not sorry that's not the one um uh trudeau best man or something here

01:31:33.580 i'll it's the one where where he and his friends are all sort of yeah trudeau best man picture yeah that

01:31:42.860 that one's not bad um i'm gonna try and find it it's the one where they're all sort of drunk and uh

01:31:53.100 staggering around a bit

01:31:57.660 shameless o'regan mark miller

01:32:02.460 i'm trying to remember who else half of trudeau's core cabinet are his drunk college buddies

01:32:08.700 there's got to be a better way to choose a cabinet than who you drank your head off with at mcgill

01:32:17.740 30 years ago like there's just got to be a better way and if you can't it's uh it's when they're

01:32:24.300 lifting up trudeau you know in the picture they're sort of lifting up trudeau and seamus

01:32:28.220 o'regan's making that funny face if you can't find it don't worry about it

01:32:31.660 anyways that's dominic leblanc i'm very unimpressed with him um but i think in fairness the dumbest

01:32:39.420 cabinet minister in all of ottawa is seamus o'regan with a close second to yaara sachs why don't we

01:32:45.260 end with yaara sachs and her famous hunk hunk comment there was a lot of stupid things said and a lot of

01:32:53.740 stupid things done during the trucker convoy by the government they thought they could flip it

01:33:00.700 around and make it canada's january 6th moment of violent insurrection but there was no violence and

01:33:06.460 i put that to lawrence greenspot and you'll you'll remember that he said if there was a single violent

01:33:10.940 incident you can bet it would have been mentioned by the prosecutor against tamara leach there wasn't one

01:33:15.660 and indeed that's true now the government journalists um the government journalists were

01:33:25.180 going to paint that picture without even talking to the truckers they were scared of them so they

01:33:30.220 certainly wouldn't go interview them but those pesky kids with their cell phone cameras the

01:33:37.260 citizen journalists at rebel news 23 days straight our reporters alexa lavoie and lincoln jay and

01:33:44.620 for weeks uh straight and other places including down in coots alberta we showed the world what was

01:33:50.140 really going on and it was not violent and it was not a serious violent insurrection

01:33:56.860 and so the liberals didn't know what to do if you go to uh my twitter feed okay um this is my mp

01:34:07.100 who i just finished saying seamus o'regan is the stupidest cabinet minister

01:34:11.740 it's actually a tie with this woman her name is yaara sacks she looks like um who's that frumpy

01:34:23.660 gal from was it not third planet what's that uh what's that comedy with the super smart physics kids

01:34:33.100 big bang theory that's right

01:34:42.460 give me one second you know i never i've i've never watched big bang theory

01:34:46.700 who is that actress who's just so maya that's right what's your last name

01:34:59.260 maya bialik mayam bialik nerdy unlikable yeah put a picture on the screen

01:35:06.780 so that's maya bialik a nerdy unlikable actress and that's the role she played whiny

01:35:20.300 that's what i think of when i see my mp yaara sacks

01:35:24.700 a little bit on the spectrum a little bit stupid extremely socially awkward

01:35:33.820 and unlike maya bialik who played a genius

01:35:38.540 yaara sacks plays is as stupid as a as a seamus o'regan here listen

01:35:44.300 how much vitriol do we have to see of honk honk which is an acronym for hail hitler

01:35:53.260 do we need to see by these protesters on social media

01:36:03.020 so how much honk honk do we have to see on social media so because you saw some

01:36:09.100 when honking on social media and you think honk honk stands for heil hitler you want to invoke

01:36:15.580 the emergencies act that is my mp it would i guess it would be like the the oscars you have best

01:36:23.180 actress and back best actor so in this trio cabinet you have dumbest cabinet minister male

01:36:30.220 seamus o'regan dumbest cabinet minister female yaara sacks would you agree with me that that is

01:36:37.340 perhaps the stupidest thing ever uttered in parliament trudeau must resign

01:36:47.580 he's a disgrace he's a serial lawbreaker he's a serial violator of our constitution

01:36:56.380 he's got to go

01:36:57.100 it's 3 52 eastern time

01:37:02.780 i want to play one last clip before we go it's christia freeland justifying the seizure of bank

01:37:09.020 accounts seizing bank accounts freezing bank accounts shutting down credit cards stopping people

01:37:14.860 from accessing joint family accounts so if the husband is there the wife can't buy food or medicine

01:37:20.300 for the child christia freeland the granddaughter of a nazi did that and not surprisingly she

01:37:29.740 defended herself because what's an alternative to admit that she destroyed families illegally what else

01:37:35.820 can she do do we have that clip handy here's christia freeland boasting of seizing families

01:37:43.660 bank accounts without legal process and to hell with the wives and the children if the husband was

01:37:48.860 out protesting take a look seems to single out some of your choices on freezing bank accounts and credit

01:37:54.780 cards as being part of the reason where it's unreasonable in terms of the measures taken by the government

01:37:59.820 you defended those when you announced them at the time do you have any regrets on taking that

01:38:03.820 measure in the light of this decision would you have done it differently based on what we've seen from

01:38:08.460 the federal court today uh as i said in my opening remarks we faced as a country and as a government

01:38:21.180 an incredibly serious threat a threat to the public safety of many canadians a threat to our national

01:38:29.100 national security including our national economic security we acted to secure and protect canada and to secure

01:38:43.180 and protect the national interest it was not an easy time these were not easy decisions

01:38:52.540 in making our decisions in choosing to act we worked very very hard with all levels of government

01:39:05.020 and we were very mindful of acting in such a way that the safety the physical safety of all canadians

01:39:15.660 involved would be preserved we i don't want to minimize the gravity of the actions we took

01:39:29.180 neither do i want to minimize the gravity of the threat canada faced and to your question

01:39:36.780 i was certain after a lot of deliberation with colleagues and many others that we took the right

01:39:47.180 decision i was certain at the time i was certain when i testified before ruleau and i remain certain

01:39:55.340 today thank you she is morally unfit to govern in 150 or so page ruling today it was detailed meticulously

01:40:06.620 why she's a lawbreaker why what she did was illegal why what she did was illegal under the terms of

01:40:11.740 the emergencies act itself and why even if it was valid under the emergencies act it was a violation of

01:40:17.260 the charter of rights on top of that and yet she is defiant because what is her alternative to admit

01:40:23.420 that she was a lawbreaker to admit that she stomped on civil liberties to admit

01:40:28.220 that pierre trudeau may have brought in the charter of rights but justin trudeau destroyed it

01:40:34.060 it that's our show for today thanks for joining this emergency broadcast it's a good day for freedom

01:40:45.020 until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to you at home

01:40:49.740 goodbye keep fighting for freedom

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Rebel News Podcast - January 23, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Reactions to Federal Court ruling Trudeau's Emergencies Act use was unconstitutional

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