Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rumble LIVE： Free speech leaders join forces to condemn censorship

00:00:00.000 You're fighting for freedom!

00:00:03.000 Shame on you, you censorious thug!

00:00:15.000 As Margaret Thatcher said, folks, the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money.

00:00:20.000 Now, in looking at this, though, I was like, what the hell is 2S?

00:00:27.000 Because I actually talk crap about this stuff almost for a living at this point.

00:00:31.000 So I was like, I am fairly well informed.

00:00:34.000 No, no, no. 2S.

00:00:37.000 2 Spirit.

00:00:40.000 Who knew?

00:00:42.000 I mean, no, for people who don't believe in God,

00:00:46.000 it seems like a stretch, but they have no religion.

00:00:51.000 But I guess their religion is leftism.

00:00:55.000 It's insanity. It's the Marxism that they're pushing.

00:00:58.000 And so, it aims at advancing the rights and equality of 2-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex,

00:01:06.000 and additional sexually and gender diverse 2SLBG guy people in Canada.

00:01:12.000 Hey guys, probably not the best use of our funds.

00:01:15.000 In America, we're graduating children where literally there are entire districts where no one can read or do English.

00:01:22.000 But they will know the 4,376 genders.

00:01:27.000 I'm not sure how it'll apply in the workforce.

00:01:30.000 Minor details.

00:01:31.000 Doesn't matter.

00:01:32.000 We'll put them on a government program and they'll be reliable liberal voters for life.

00:01:36.000 But the point is this.

00:01:41.000 You're going to have an election coming up soon.

00:01:43.000 What do you guys think?

00:01:44.000 Do you think they're going to do it this year?

00:01:46.000 So they can ride with Trump and try to use him as the cruddle?

00:01:49.000 Or do you think that's actually helpful at this point?

00:01:51.000 Because people are finally awake to the insanity that is going on right now.

00:01:55.000 Which one do you guys think?

00:01:56.000 I'm actually genuinely curious.

00:01:57.000 Or do you think they wait until next year?

00:01:59.000 Let tempers.

00:02:00.000 Because I think right now it may actually help us.

00:02:03.000 Because the amount of people that would never have voted Republican or would have never been Trump that are coming up to me be like,

00:02:10.000 Hey man, I was really wrong.

00:02:12.000 These people are out of their damn minds.

00:02:14.000 It's astonishing.

00:02:15.000 And I don't mean, you know, I don't mean crowds like this.

00:02:18.000 I mean places that you like wouldn't expect.

00:02:20.000 Like when they run up to me, I'm like, oh boy, am I going to get my ass kicked right now.

00:02:23.000 And so it's interesting.

00:02:26.000 You know, I see the disparity of treatment even there.

00:02:30.000 It was interesting.

00:02:31.000 I was talking with Chris Pawlowski as we were talking about this event.

00:02:35.000 And he was like, you know, they called us the other day, a day or two ago.

00:02:39.000 They were going to basically extort you for $50,000 because we had to bring in toilets for the protestors.

00:02:48.000 Now I saw no protestors, which actually kind of disappoints me because I feel like I'm losing my touch.

00:02:53.000 I'm like, you know, in America, I get people that really hate me to show up and it's kind of fun.

00:03:00.000 Most of them are.

00:03:01.000 Let's just say they're not sending their best.

00:03:03.000 By the way, you guys aren't doing your best either because I saw them write free Palestine,

00:03:08.000 but they misspelled it at one of the universities right here.

00:03:10.000 I'm like, I don't know.

00:03:14.000 Hey, you know, notice they spelt free correctly though.

00:03:18.000 Because they're really, they, you know, if it's free, it's for me, for these people.

00:03:23.000 I mean, they, they, you know, free they got right.

00:03:25.000 But I was like, you know what?

00:03:26.000 If you cared that much about Palestine, you're like, I don't know.

00:03:31.000 Doesn't seem like it's too much to ask you to spell it correctly.

00:03:35.000 Minor details, minor details.

00:03:40.000 But they had to spend $50,000.

00:03:44.000 The idea obviously was not to promote free speech or alternate viewpoints.

00:03:49.000 The idea was to make it too costly and penal to actually put on the event.

00:03:53.000 Because I noticed that the truckers who were also peacefully protesting,

00:03:57.000 who were incredible patriots both here and in the United States.

00:04:00.000 Well done.

00:04:21.000 Well done.

00:04:23.000 So we have one of them here.

00:04:28.000 I noticed, I noticed that the truckers were not afforded the same luxury of having the

00:04:37.000 government pay for their bathrooms.

00:04:39.000 I know that they were arrested.

00:04:42.000 I know that they were debanked.

00:04:45.000 I know they were threatened with their livelihoods and their jobs.

00:04:49.000 And yet, if you're protesting a peaceful event under the guise of, you know, Marxism,

00:04:57.000 Lestism, Trudeauism, which may be further left than all of that, they're going to make

00:05:03.000 other people pay for it.

00:05:04.000 So it shows the disparate treatment.

00:05:06.000 But thank you for doing that, by the way.

00:05:08.000 I think it was such an awakening, even for us.

00:05:19.000 And let everyone else know I said it, because the media will never do it.

00:05:23.000 But no, whether it was there, whether it was the trucker convoy in America down by the border,

00:05:27.000 I mean, it feels like the truckers are actually leading the charge of patriotism and freedom in our countries.

00:05:34.000 And then, as of last week, apparently it's also, like, frat boys in, like, pastel shorts,

00:05:38.000 which I did not have on my bingo card, to be clear.

00:05:42.000 But, like, I'll take it, because they're the ones saving the American flag from being taken down by radicals.

00:05:50.000 Not people who support, perhaps, the peaceful existence of the Palestinian people,

00:05:55.000 but people who are actively encouraging and egging on Hamas, a terror organization.

00:06:03.000 You're not allowed to say Hamas? I'm sorry.

00:06:06.000 They're not a terror, yeah.

00:06:08.000 Guess what, if I get thrown in jail for calling Hamas a terror organization in Canada,

00:06:12.000 guess what, I promise, please make me a martyr.

00:06:14.000 Please, like, just do it.

00:06:19.000 And in all fairness, I have a feeling whatever jail I end up in Canada,

00:06:26.000 the people will be so much nicer than they would be in America.

00:06:28.000 Oh, it's about time you're here, Don. It's a — I'm just kidding.

00:06:33.000 Couldn't help myself.

00:06:36.000 But with that, folks, I think I want to bring up the entire panel.

00:06:41.000 I think we all understand what's at stake.

00:06:44.000 I also think we all understand how far we have fallen.

00:06:46.000 But it's time that we all start having these conversations.

00:06:51.000 I try to do it with humor. Everyone's going to have a different way.

00:06:54.000 There's ways to do it respectfully.

00:06:56.000 But I think people have to understand just how fragile it is.

00:06:59.000 When you look at what's going on in the world, when you look at what they've done,

00:07:02.000 when you look at the places, again, as I opened up with, that we looked at —

00:07:06.000 like, hold on, get out of here!

00:07:08.000 When you look at what's happening, understand that it does not get better from here.

00:07:14.000 You know, just because, like, if they can do it to a Trump, right,

00:07:19.000 someone who has a following, who has the means to fight back,

00:07:24.000 who has, you know, the will to fight back —

00:07:27.000 and if they can do it to someone like that, who won't they do it to?

00:07:31.000 More importantly, if they do do it to that,

00:07:33.000 doesn't it send the message that they're going after anyone who will stand in their way?

00:07:37.000 So we need to collectively make sure that people are awake to exactly what's going on,

00:07:41.000 that we can combat this insanity before the incredible things that our countries were founded on,

00:07:46.000 the freedoms that we've enjoyed for so long, that we fought for,

00:07:50.000 blood, sweat, and tears through generations, before that disappears,

00:07:54.000 because it is very much on the table.

00:07:56.000 And they're not even pretending about it anymore.

00:07:58.000 So, thank you so much, Toronto. It's great to be here.

00:08:09.000 Thank you.

00:08:17.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Donald J. Trump Jr.,

00:08:19.000 thank you for making the journey unbelievable.

00:08:24.000 Well, we have less than an hour left, but we've got the whole panel on the stage.

00:08:30.000 You've already met everyone except for the keystone of today's event,

00:08:35.000 a person without whom we would not be here.

00:08:37.000 We would not be here today because, as Don Jr. said,

00:08:40.000 there was a $50,000 extortion by the government landlord,

00:08:45.000 the Crown Corporation called Canada Lands Company,

00:08:48.000 that tried to block this event.

00:08:50.000 And were it not for the resources of rumble.com,

00:08:53.000 we would have been cancelled by the government.

00:08:57.000 That's an example of a dedication to freedom of speech that you rarely see.

00:09:02.000 Yeah.

00:09:03.000 Without further ado, let me turn the mic over to our host in so many ways,

00:09:07.000 including the host of so many freedom-oriented live streams,

00:09:11.000 a Canadian who's done well in the world.

00:09:14.000 Amazing work.

00:09:15.000 Chris Pawlowski.

00:09:16.000 Thank you.

00:09:17.000 Thank you, Ezra.

00:09:18.000 First off, this wouldn't have been possible without Rebel helping us out

00:09:38.000 and getting this off the ground.

00:09:40.000 Thank you to Rebel.

00:09:45.000 And to the Rumble staff, I don't know if you guys know,

00:09:49.420 but we put this event together in about two and a half weeks.

00:09:52.520 We threw it together as fast as possible.

00:09:56.040 These bills that are coming out of Canada are of, like,

00:09:59.720 incredible concern to me.

00:10:01.840 And me being a Canadian born and raised in Toronto

00:10:05.260 and watching how things have changed since I was in the...

00:10:09.840 I remember being in the playground in elementary school

00:10:13.980 and just saying, we have free speech,

00:10:16.320 we can say whatever we want to where we are right now

00:10:19.020 is just absolutely appalling.

00:10:21.640 And I thought it was, like, incredibly important

00:10:24.480 to bring a lot of talent to Canada

00:10:27.200 to talk about how important and how much of a human right

00:10:31.860 free speech, freedom of expression really is.

00:10:34.640 And I want to thank the guests that have come from Brazil,

00:10:40.140 I guess, now from Florida.

00:10:41.780 And then also Don and Kim from Florida as well.

00:10:46.460 So a big round of applause to them.

00:10:56.440 One more thing I want to add is that Don,

00:11:02.900 I got a call from Kim, like, a couple days ago,

00:11:06.440 and she was like, Chris, Don's in surgery right now.

00:11:11.700 And I was like, oh, oh, what happened?

00:11:15.480 And she was like, but don't worry,

00:11:17.920 we're coming to Toronto no matter what.

00:11:20.000 So a huge round of applause to Don.

00:11:23.200 That's amazing.

00:11:26.340 Not a snowflake.

00:11:27.380 That's some real toughness, like, to be coming all the way over here

00:11:35.440 and going through all that just to be here

00:11:37.360 and, you know, raise our voices about how important

00:11:40.980 freedom of expression is.

00:11:44.240 I guess we'll start off with Viva.

00:11:47.060 Viva, you know, I think you being from here

00:11:51.560 and understanding kind of the genesis of what has happened in Canada

00:11:55.780 and how we've gotten from a society that we all agreed unanimously

00:12:02.700 that freedom of expression is a human right

00:12:05.720 that allows everything to happen.

00:12:07.800 You don't have civil rights movements.

00:12:09.720 You don't have women's rights movements.

00:12:11.260 You don't have anything without freedom of expression.

00:12:13.740 It is, like, the cornerstone to a democratic and free society.

00:12:18.800 Without it, it's over.

00:12:20.600 It's completely over.

00:12:22.200 And that's just getting demolished right now

00:12:25.320 by the current government, which is...

00:12:28.060 I never thought in my lifetime it would be something

00:12:30.240 I'd be fighting for the way I'm fighting for it right now.

00:12:32.700 But you, as a Canadian, kind of really kind of

00:12:36.360 picked this apart over the last 10 years

00:12:39.320 and watched this happen from a legal standpoint.

00:12:41.860 What's your thoughts?

00:12:43.660 How do you feel being a Canadian these days?

00:12:46.480 It's an interesting thing.

00:12:47.560 Like, Canadians, we've always prided ourselves off being polite

00:12:50.560 and, to some extent, subservient, but not in an insulting way.

00:12:54.760 And what I've realized is being polite and subservient,

00:12:56.840 it's good for neighbours, but it's not good for government.

00:12:59.880 And the government is supposed to...

00:13:02.200 I had that thought earlier today.

00:13:03.940 I said I've got to write that down and get it out.

00:13:05.420 But we are polite.

00:13:07.720 We like being loving and we like being tolerant.

00:13:10.340 But there's a difference between that

00:13:11.840 and selling the rope to the government

00:13:13.580 that's going to hang you with it.

00:13:15.080 And that's what we're doing right now

00:13:16.420 by sacrificing the liberties

00:13:17.940 that many of us didn't have to fight and die for.

00:13:19.860 We inherited them,

00:13:20.840 and therefore we don't truly appreciate

00:13:22.320 how special they are.

00:13:24.080 But, Don, I have to also say this.

00:13:25.980 You thought the 2SLGBTQIA plus was bad.

00:13:28.380 There was a tweet...

00:13:28.420 Oh, boy.

00:13:29.080 There was a tweet coming out

00:13:30.680 talking about asexuality.

00:13:32.880 This is from the government of Canada.

00:13:33.960 I mean, the $50,000 is going to good causes.

00:13:37.240 It says,

00:13:37.900 did you know that asexuality

00:13:39.380 includes a wide spectrum

00:13:40.700 of sexual and romantic orientations?

00:13:43.220 And you have members of Parliament,

00:13:44.860 Pascal Saint-Ange, tweeting this out.

00:13:46.420 It's nuts.

00:13:46.920 But the bottom line,

00:13:47.800 we're witnessing it

00:13:48.860 and we sort of feel that it's virtuous

00:13:50.320 to do what the government says

00:13:51.580 because it makes us feel safe.

00:13:54.160 It makes us, you know,

00:13:55.520 let them think that they're providing security for us.

00:13:57.620 But at the bottom line,

00:13:58.240 we are literally,

00:13:59.960 on the one hand,

00:14:00.500 giving away freedoms

00:14:01.140 that we didn't fight for

00:14:02.020 and they're not ours to give away.

00:14:03.380 They're ours for our children.

00:14:04.680 And we are selling the government

00:14:05.740 the rope that they're using

00:14:06.540 to tie us up.

00:14:13.660 I'd like to build on something

00:14:14.800 you said there, Viva.

00:14:16.440 Freedom of speech

00:14:17.240 is a strategic freedom

00:14:18.580 upon which the others rely.

00:14:20.860 So when we talk about

00:14:21.820 our fundamental freedoms,

00:14:22.840 especially here in Canada,

00:14:23.740 we talk about freedom of association,

00:14:25.780 freedom of assembly,

00:14:26.940 the right to vote.

00:14:27.780 But think about it.

00:14:29.200 None of those things

00:14:30.020 would be meaningful

00:14:30.720 without the underlying free speech.

00:14:32.780 I mean,

00:14:32.980 if you didn't have freedom of speech,

00:14:34.380 you could have meetings,

00:14:36.060 you could have association,

00:14:37.560 you could have a vote,

00:14:38.220 but it would all be meaningless.

00:14:40.640 I've heard it said,

00:14:41.620 take away all my other freedoms,

00:14:43.140 but leave me freedom of speech

00:14:44.400 because with it,

00:14:44.980 I'll win the rest back.

00:14:46.620 I wouldn't want to put that to the test,

00:14:48.380 but I think it's true.

00:14:49.320 Glenn, I want to ask,

00:14:56.820 if I may,

00:14:57.760 for the global perspective,

00:14:59.560 I mean,

00:14:59.740 you're right in the thick of it

00:15:00.920 in Brazil

00:15:01.360 where there's some real censorship

00:15:02.560 battles going on.

00:15:04.340 Can you give us about a minute

00:15:05.540 around the world?

00:15:07.020 What's the situation?

00:15:07.940 Maybe Chris can weigh in on that too

00:15:09.360 because, of course,

00:15:10.300 as a platform,

00:15:11.520 he's under direct attack

00:15:12.920 by a hundred different countries' censorship.

00:15:15.720 Can you give us just a bit of a survey?

00:15:18.580 Yeah, I mean,

00:15:19.280 I actually do want to begin

00:15:20.700 by embarrassing Chris a little bit

00:15:22.100 and talking about it

00:15:22.780 from the perspective of Rumble

00:15:23.800 and how important it's become

00:15:24.900 precisely because

00:15:25.800 I think I said this

00:15:26.940 at the very beginning, actually,

00:15:27.820 though I'm here in Canada

00:15:28.580 and I was motivated

00:15:29.220 by the excesses of C63.

00:15:32.020 I'm not Canadian,

00:15:33.160 so if that were just Canada,

00:15:35.120 I would probably leave that to Canadians

00:15:36.780 and give you a kind of support

00:15:37.820 from a distance.

00:15:38.900 The reason I feel compelled to come here

00:15:40.340 is because it is a global trend.

00:15:42.080 It's feeding off one another

00:15:43.120 every country.

00:15:43.800 Every time one country moves

00:15:44.760 one step forward,

00:15:45.720 it's a signal to every other country

00:15:47.080 that they can as well.

00:15:48.500 I think one of the things

00:15:50.180 I've come to value most

00:15:51.480 in the work I've done

00:15:52.720 in journalism, politics,

00:15:54.180 are not just people

00:15:54.880 who wave banners

00:15:55.560 and claim belief

00:15:57.580 in a certain cause,

00:15:58.420 so that is very important,

00:15:59.660 but the people

00:16:00.580 who are willing to sacrifice

00:16:01.860 their self-interest

00:16:03.040 for those causes.

00:16:04.420 I remember when I was a kid,

00:16:05.680 like one of the heroes I had

00:16:06.920 was the ACLU,

00:16:08.440 which at the time

00:16:09.180 was actually what they claimed to be,

00:16:10.620 a nonpartisan free speech organization

00:16:12.200 filled with Jewish lawyers,

00:16:13.900 primarily Jewish donors,

00:16:14.780 on the left,

00:16:15.340 and they defended the right

00:16:16.280 of the Nazi party

00:16:17.100 to march through Skokie, Illinois,

00:16:19.180 kind of a town

00:16:20.020 filled with Holocaust survivors,

00:16:22.100 and they almost destroyed

00:16:23.020 their organization,

00:16:24.360 but did so

00:16:25.260 because they felt

00:16:26.380 the principle

00:16:27.420 that the government

00:16:28.040 can't dictate

00:16:28.780 who can march

00:16:29.480 and who can't,

00:16:30.220 obviously they despised

00:16:31.420 the Nazi party,

00:16:32.580 was so vital to protect,

00:16:34.060 and I've seen people

00:16:34.640 like Julian Assange

00:16:35.440 end up in a prison,

00:16:36.600 a high-security prison,

00:16:38.060 where he's wasting away,

00:16:39.240 and my friend

00:16:40.360 and source Edward Snowden,

00:16:41.480 who's in exile in Moscow,

00:16:43.100 these are the people

00:16:43.680 who I most admire,

00:16:45.120 who are knowingly sacrificing

00:16:46.720 their personal interests

00:16:47.620 for a cause.

00:16:48.520 Rumble,

00:16:49.400 the reason I came to Rumble,

00:16:50.840 I've never,

00:16:51.360 I've always done written journalism,

00:16:52.380 I've never done video journalism,

00:16:53.480 one of the main reasons

00:16:54.300 is because I think

00:16:55.780 they're the only major platform.

00:16:57.180 They're, you know,

00:16:57.760 I think Elon Musk

00:16:58.480 at Twitter

00:16:59.240 is doing an important job

00:17:00.500 enunciating this cause,

00:17:02.320 rhetorically defending it.

00:17:04.300 Rumble has shown

00:17:05.100 that they're not just

00:17:06.300 willing to defend it

00:17:07.160 rhetorically,

00:17:08.080 they're willing to protect

00:17:08.880 everybody who's on that platform,

00:17:10.240 left, right,

00:17:10.780 anything in between,

00:17:11.460 or beyond,

00:17:12.340 but even more importantly,

00:17:14.120 they will defy

00:17:15.180 the censorship order

00:17:16.600 of governments

00:17:17.400 when governments tell them

00:17:18.320 we want this person

00:17:19.100 off your platform

00:17:19.900 and this view ban,

00:17:21.120 or you will not be able

00:17:21.960 to be in our market,

00:17:22.840 they say we'd rather

00:17:24.280 not be in your market

00:17:25.380 than obey unjust

00:17:26.820 censorship demands,

00:17:27.680 and I can't stress

00:17:28.660 the importance of that enough.

00:17:33.860 Chris, are you at liberty

00:17:38.540 to tell us a few examples

00:17:40.200 or anecdotes?

00:17:42.040 Yeah, there's a lot of them,

00:17:44.720 unfortunately.

00:17:46.020 It's, I guess, like,

00:17:48.960 the thing that kind of

00:17:50.080 strikes me the most

00:17:50.980 is that the amount

00:17:52.340 that we're receiving

00:17:53.260 means the other platforms

00:17:55.220 are also receiving

00:17:56.360 these requests,

00:17:57.420 and they're probably

00:17:58.100 receiving a lot more.

00:18:00.280 So the most recent example,

00:18:02.260 which I thought

00:18:03.500 was very ironic

00:18:04.600 because, you know,

00:18:06.140 I'll go back to one of the first,

00:18:07.660 well, the first place

00:18:08.360 to ban us was China.

00:18:09.880 You know, no surprise there.

00:18:11.020 That's what communists would do.

00:18:12.440 They would shut down voices

00:18:13.820 that they don't agree with.

00:18:15.840 But then the second place

00:18:17.860 that threatened

00:18:18.940 to take us offline

00:18:20.120 was France,

00:18:21.660 and they specifically said

00:18:25.180 that we needed to remove

00:18:26.640 news sources from Russia,

00:18:29.480 so like Russia Today,

00:18:30.880 Sputnik, et cetera,

00:18:31.940 they needed to come off Rumble,

00:18:33.500 and they didn't violate

00:18:35.300 any of our policies,

00:18:36.720 and on the principle

00:18:37.700 of free speech

00:18:38.540 and the principle

00:18:39.160 of what we do,

00:18:40.900 we told France

00:18:42.200 to go pound sand.

00:18:43.460 Bye.

00:18:49.980 And we allowed them

00:18:54.080 to continue streaming,

00:18:55.160 and we shut off access

00:18:56.340 to France entirely.

00:18:57.500 Then, in the last month,

00:19:01.420 you know,

00:19:01.780 and just recently confirmed,

00:19:03.940 now we see Russia

00:19:05.800 blocks Rumble entirely.

00:19:09.120 So we've had Brazil,

00:19:12.300 China block us,

00:19:14.120 we've had France block us,

00:19:15.960 and then, ironically,

00:19:17.080 Russia blocks us,

00:19:18.500 and then you have,

00:19:20.000 we ended up removing,

00:19:21.420 leaving Brazil as well.

00:19:23.880 We've had orders now,

00:19:25.720 aggressive orders,

00:19:26.500 coming out of India.

00:19:27.820 That seems to be

00:19:28.980 the next place

00:19:30.180 that is getting

00:19:31.040 very censorious.

00:19:32.580 And we have also received

00:19:34.500 requests from the

00:19:35.620 Australian government

00:19:36.460 and the New Zealand government.

00:19:38.880 And the requests

00:19:40.100 are getting

00:19:40.760 very weird lately,

00:19:44.500 like to the point

00:19:45.220 where it's like

00:19:46.160 not even a debate

00:19:47.420 whether you should

00:19:48.260 take it down or not,

00:19:49.440 but I'm guessing

00:19:50.240 the other platforms

00:19:51.040 are complying.

00:19:52.240 So the New Zealand request

00:19:53.480 was really appalling.

00:19:56.280 So there was

00:19:56.840 a whistleblower

00:19:58.000 in New Zealand

00:19:59.100 that it was

00:20:01.840 with respect

00:20:02.540 to the Ministry of Health

00:20:03.780 during the COVID restrictions

00:20:05.060 and lying on COVID data.

00:20:06.880 And the New Zealand

00:20:07.600 Ministry of Health

00:20:08.440 came to us

00:20:09.120 to remove that crater.

00:20:10.760 Obviously,

00:20:11.520 we're not going to do that.

00:20:13.340 We're telling them

00:20:14.400 to pound sand as well.

00:20:15.800 But the fact

00:20:16.660 that you have, like,

00:20:17.740 the Ministry of Health

00:20:18.580 of New Zealand

00:20:19.180 and coming to a journalist

00:20:21.500 that reported

00:20:22.580 on the whistleblower

00:20:23.480 to remove the journalist,

00:20:25.480 that's, like,

00:20:26.080 akin to the Pentagon papers

00:20:27.840 in the 70s

00:20:28.840 and the New York Times,

00:20:30.780 which has already been ruled

00:20:31.680 in the Supreme Court

00:20:32.460 as, like,

00:20:32.860 that's, you know,

00:20:33.660 free press.

00:20:34.380 Like, that's completely allowed.

00:20:36.740 And the nerve

00:20:38.480 that the governments have

00:20:39.720 to even the New Zealand government

00:20:41.460 or the Australian government,

00:20:42.940 all these governments,

00:20:43.980 the nerve that they have

00:20:45.060 to censor

00:20:46.500 and to even ask us,

00:20:48.540 to even ask us about that

00:20:50.200 is just appalling.

00:20:52.580 Like,

00:20:53.460 I can't even imagine

00:20:55.120 the day

00:20:55.760 that that would happen

00:20:56.900 in a Western democracy.

00:21:00.140 But here we are.

00:21:01.000 We're sitting here today

00:21:01.920 and we're sitting here

00:21:02.660 for a really good reason.

00:21:04.360 And that's because of this.

00:21:08.860 Don Jr.,

00:21:09.660 let me jump in.

00:21:11.720 When our Rebel News journalist

00:21:13.220 went to Davos, Switzerland,

00:21:14.780 for the World Economic Forum,

00:21:16.760 the two names we heard the most

00:21:18.380 on the lips

00:21:18.900 of the delegates there

00:21:19.860 were, number one,

00:21:21.460 Donald Trump,

00:21:22.600 and number two,

00:21:24.100 Elon Musk.

00:21:24.900 But it was sort of a surrogate

00:21:26.880 for how do we get censorship back.

00:21:30.520 And I think they were linked.

00:21:32.440 I think the whole call

00:21:34.300 for banning misinformation

00:21:36.220 is another way of saying

00:21:38.000 it's 2024, people,

00:21:39.440 we've got to stop

00:21:40.340 public enemy number one.

00:21:42.220 How much of censorship

00:21:43.960 do you think

00:21:44.520 is just about rigging

00:21:46.760 or tilting

00:21:47.600 the U.S. presidential election?

00:21:50.080 I mean,

00:21:50.620 I think it's very significant.

00:21:51.900 I mean,

00:21:52.060 I sort of spoke about it

00:21:53.200 in my speech

00:21:53.940 talking about

00:21:54.580 sort of these places

00:21:55.460 that we viewed

00:21:56.060 as bastions of freedom

00:21:57.440 and democracy,

00:21:58.640 you know,

00:21:59.320 perhaps under

00:21:59.900 somewhat different rules,

00:22:00.940 but New Zealand,

00:22:02.760 Australia,

00:22:03.680 Canada,

00:22:04.260 the U.S.,

00:22:04.840 the U.K.,

00:22:05.540 Ireland.

00:22:06.000 And yet,

00:22:06.280 if you look at

00:22:06.720 what's going on

00:22:07.240 in those places,

00:22:08.640 you realize

00:22:09.560 just how dangerous

00:22:10.300 that are,

00:22:10.700 and more importantly,

00:22:11.240 how emboldened

00:22:12.640 they've become

00:22:13.480 in actually

00:22:14.820 just flagrantly doing it.

00:22:16.940 You know,

00:22:17.400 I see it

00:22:17.960 on all the platforms.

00:22:19.380 I do my own social media

00:22:20.380 for better or worse.

00:22:21.260 People are like,

00:22:21.680 do you do that yourself?

00:22:22.520 I was like,

00:22:22.700 do you think I could pay

00:22:23.320 someone to post this stuff

00:22:24.180 that I actually put up there

00:22:25.100 most of the...

00:22:25.640 Solid point.

00:22:28.460 And, you know,

00:22:29.540 I see it.

00:22:30.240 On my metal platforms,

00:22:31.520 I'm doing 10%

00:22:32.280 of what I used to do

00:22:33.220 on average.

00:22:34.460 You know,

00:22:34.720 and I know what it's going to do

00:22:35.460 because I do it myself.

00:22:36.200 So when I hit send,

00:22:37.480 you know,

00:22:37.960 hey,

00:22:38.140 I know that's filler

00:22:38.860 or I know that's going to go big.

00:22:40.080 I know what's going to happen.

00:22:41.000 And, you know,

00:22:41.660 if I get a decent post right now,

00:22:43.100 it's 50,000 likes.

00:22:44.360 If I'm following certain people,

00:22:46.720 it may show up to me,

00:22:47.620 but someone who isn't following

00:22:48.720 that person,

00:22:49.200 hey,

00:22:49.380 check them out.

00:22:50.480 Search them.

00:22:52.220 What do you mean?

00:22:53.180 Here's his exact handle.

00:22:54.680 You know,

00:22:54.880 on page 15 of the scroll,

00:22:57.020 it seems like

00:22:58.100 a lot of these institutions now

00:23:00.540 are actually incorporating AI,

00:23:02.780 and Chris could probably

00:23:03.440 speak to this more

00:23:04.140 because I know

00:23:04.400 we've had sort of conversations

00:23:05.420 offline in that

00:23:06.260 where they understand now

00:23:09.600 the cry from people

00:23:10.700 about the censorship.

00:23:11.960 So now what they're trying to do

00:23:13.000 is actually cover up

00:23:14.080 the censorship

00:23:14.640 so it appears

00:23:15.780 as though they're not doing it.

00:23:17.520 You can see the people

00:23:18.500 you're already following,

00:23:19.540 but no one else ever will.

00:23:22.000 You'll never be able

00:23:23.600 to grow your engagement.

00:23:25.060 You're sort of trapped there,

00:23:26.080 but you get enough viewership

00:23:27.300 that it's not like,

00:23:28.300 oh,

00:23:29.220 what happened?

00:23:30.140 You know,

00:23:30.320 I was one of the first people

00:23:31.260 complaining about,

00:23:32.060 you know,

00:23:32.620 Twitter 1.0 censorship,

00:23:33.920 and I think there's still

00:23:35.080 plenty in 2.0,

00:23:36.500 but in Twitter 1.0 censorship,

00:23:39.220 how do you know

00:23:39.880 you're being shadow banned?

00:23:40.660 It's like,

00:23:40.920 well,

00:23:41.060 yesterday I was averaging

00:23:42.060 5,000 retweets a post.

00:23:43.980 Today I'm averaging 7.

00:23:46.080 They're like,

00:23:46.420 well,

00:23:46.560 7,000?

00:23:47.060 I go,

00:23:47.280 no, no, no,

00:23:47.620 seven,

00:23:48.140 like single digits.

00:23:50.600 Like something happened.

00:23:52.920 Right?

00:23:53.360 Someone flipped the switch.

00:23:54.420 Ironically,

00:23:54.880 the time I saw

00:23:55.500 my best engagement

00:23:56.440 in Twitter

00:23:56.880 in the last,

00:23:57.980 in the last,

00:23:58.720 you know,

00:23:58.960 I guess since we entered politics,

00:24:00.560 we did real well before that

00:24:01.700 when,

00:24:01.960 you know,

00:24:02.380 had a TV show

00:24:03.220 and we're popular

00:24:03.820 and we're apolitical,

00:24:04.760 at least,

00:24:05.140 you know,

00:24:05.280 I was political

00:24:05.760 but not,

00:24:06.740 you know,

00:24:07.140 outwardly

00:24:07.580 because I grew up

00:24:08.140 in New York City

00:24:08.840 and,

00:24:09.060 you know,

00:24:09.740 play the game.

00:24:11.340 And it was during

00:24:12.640 the time frame

00:24:13.420 where there was the gap

00:24:14.960 where no one knew

00:24:16.320 which way Twitter was going.

00:24:17.560 You know,

00:24:17.700 Elon kind of had it

00:24:18.520 under contract

00:24:19.140 but it didn't look

00:24:19.780 like it was going.

00:24:21.300 Twitter 1.0

00:24:22.020 was desperately

00:24:22.460 trying to hold on.

00:24:23.360 They were trying to prevent.

00:24:24.400 But at the same time

00:24:25.180 because they weren't knowing,

00:24:26.340 it's like they burned the files.

00:24:28.460 Right?

00:24:28.720 All the algorithms disappeared.

00:24:30.100 I gained like 3 million followers

00:24:31.700 in like a four-week period.

00:24:35.160 You know,

00:24:35.320 I was averaging 10,000 likes a post

00:24:37.100 because they just pulled off

00:24:38.600 all of the stops

00:24:39.460 because they weren't sure.

00:24:40.400 They didn't want to get caught.

00:24:41.980 Obviously,

00:24:42.500 you know,

00:24:42.680 some great other journalists,

00:24:43.880 you know,

00:24:44.000 whether it was Matt Taibbi

00:24:45.280 and others

00:24:45.700 that got into the Twitter files

00:24:47.240 and just how much

00:24:48.000 they'd been manipulating.

00:24:49.200 But now they're just getting smarter

00:24:50.580 about that manipulation.

00:24:51.780 So I think it's very much on point.

00:24:53.260 I think a lot of those globalists

00:24:54.400 that would be at Davos

00:24:55.340 I'm sure are working

00:24:56.840 with big tech.

00:24:57.560 Because again,

00:24:58.460 the fact I always say in America

00:24:59.820 that our elections are even close

00:25:02.300 and they're won by basis points,

00:25:04.260 not percentage points,

00:25:05.520 but by basis points

00:25:06.400 when you consider

00:25:07.440 that you're up against

00:25:08.160 the entirety

00:25:08.820 of a trillion-dollar

00:25:09.900 big tech complex

00:25:10.800 that is devout leftists.

00:25:14.500 I mean,

00:25:14.820 just the marketing department

00:25:16.120 of the radical left

00:25:16.960 plus another trillion-dollar institution

00:25:18.920 which may not be worth

00:25:19.780 that much anymore

00:25:20.380 because I think they've done

00:25:21.480 such a big disservice

00:25:22.940 to themselves.

00:25:23.440 You can't avoid tech.

00:25:24.260 You use it in every part

00:25:25.000 of your life.

00:25:25.360 You sort of can't avoid

00:25:26.780 the mainstream media

00:25:27.580 at this point

00:25:28.000 because there's other alternatives.

00:25:29.280 I think Chris has done

00:25:30.380 an incredible job

00:25:31.080 creating that here at Rumble.

00:25:33.000 And I think that's given

00:25:34.000 all of us platforms

00:25:34.840 to talk about it

00:25:35.480 which is why we have followings

00:25:36.480 and the other people

00:25:37.260 don't have that same

00:25:37.960 kind of credibility.

00:25:39.140 But you have

00:25:39.580 multi-trillion-dollar platforms

00:25:41.060 that are functioning

00:25:41.780 as the marketing department

00:25:42.840 of the opposition.

00:25:45.000 It's truly amazing

00:25:46.100 that it's even close

00:25:47.280 which leads me to believe

00:25:48.580 that we do have

00:25:49.300 a great chance

00:25:50.020 if we can get people

00:25:51.220 to understand that

00:25:52.120 but they're also getting smarter

00:25:53.240 about just how much

00:25:54.560 they're willing

00:25:54.940 to manipulate things

00:25:56.040 and the answer is

00:25:56.880 they're willing

00:25:57.180 to manipulate things

00:25:58.280 incredibly.

00:25:59.800 Kim, can I ask you

00:26:00.880 a question

00:26:01.320 because you're

00:26:01.720 a former prosecutor

00:26:02.720 and I was touched

00:26:03.620 by what Glenn said

00:26:04.900 that back in the day

00:26:06.740 lawyers took cases

00:26:08.640 on principle

00:26:09.320 Jewish lawyers

00:26:10.600 defending KKK marchers.

00:26:12.880 That's quite something.

00:26:14.240 What's happened?

00:26:15.100 Is it in the law schools?

00:26:16.520 Is it in the profession?

00:26:17.880 Is it political appointment

00:26:19.380 of judges?

00:26:19.860 Why are so many prosecutors

00:26:21.780 happy to prosecute

00:26:22.960 free speech?

00:26:24.140 Well, you know

00:26:24.600 it's very disturbing

00:26:25.900 what I see going on

00:26:26.880 as a former prosecutor

00:26:28.720 like you mentioned

00:26:29.560 and as a journalist

00:26:31.800 to see just the disintegration

00:26:35.080 of the legal system

00:26:36.900 to see the weaponization

00:26:38.240 at the highest level

00:26:39.420 of the government institutions

00:26:41.140 that we used to revere

00:26:42.420 like Glenn and I talked about

00:26:44.260 people that used to feel

00:26:45.600 like they were working

00:26:46.440 for the good guys

00:26:47.260 for the white hats

00:26:48.160 and I felt like that

00:26:49.200 when I was a prosecutor

00:26:50.260 and prosecuting cases

00:26:51.840 in California

00:26:52.620 and cases up

00:26:53.600 through the appellate division

00:26:54.660 up through the United States

00:26:55.760 Supreme Court

00:26:56.460 and then you see now

00:26:57.820 the juxtaposition

00:26:58.720 and this moment

00:26:59.480 in American political

00:27:00.840 and legal history

00:27:01.880 where all of those institutions

00:27:04.680 have now become weaponized

00:27:07.760 and you see

00:27:08.680 just the proliferation

00:27:10.180 of lawfare

00:27:11.320 to the point

00:27:12.060 where it is being used

00:27:13.360 as, you know

00:27:14.660 the tip of the spear

00:27:15.940 to influence

00:27:17.080 the United States

00:27:18.200 presidential election

00:27:19.720 in a way

00:27:20.320 that is tantamount

00:27:21.260 to election interference

00:27:22.840 we see it

00:27:24.280 with using gag orders

00:27:26.120 where people

00:27:27.360 who are in the case

00:27:28.100 are able to go outside

00:27:29.020 talk

00:27:29.900 you know

00:27:30.520 make comments

00:27:31.260 with the press

00:27:31.840 like the Michael Cohens

00:27:32.760 of the world

00:27:33.380 but the former president

00:27:34.960 of the United States

00:27:35.840 of America

00:27:36.360 is not allowed

00:27:37.420 to make a statement

00:27:39.520 is not allowed

00:27:41.100 essentially

00:27:41.520 to defend himself

00:27:43.520 and the system

00:27:44.680 that is supposed

00:27:45.280 to stand

00:27:45.900 and fight

00:27:46.640 for justice

00:27:47.880 and that ability

00:27:48.960 to defend yourself

00:27:50.240 for due process

00:27:51.280 to uphold

00:27:52.480 the constitution

00:27:53.540 is bringing

00:27:54.820 the whole house

00:27:55.780 down on him

00:27:57.000 and he is not able to

00:27:58.100 and if he does

00:27:59.020 make any statement

00:28:00.280 to defend himself

00:28:01.520 then they are

00:28:02.560 threatening him

00:28:03.220 with you know

00:28:04.020 fines

00:28:05.300 more punishment

00:28:07.660 incarceration

00:28:09.020 we will throw you

00:28:10.500 in jail

00:28:11.060 and I just had

00:28:12.060 to take a moment

00:28:12.740 and sit back

00:28:13.400 and I have discussed

00:28:14.060 this with Alan Dershowitz

00:28:15.420 on my show

00:28:16.600 and I know

00:28:17.000 you are going

00:28:17.460 to be interviewed

00:28:18.140 and meeting

00:28:18.540 with him soon

00:28:19.280 he is appalled

00:28:20.260 by it

00:28:20.740 and to further

00:28:22.160 answer your question

00:28:23.100 it is coming down

00:28:24.380 from those

00:28:25.120 high government

00:28:26.000 institutions

00:28:26.800 whether it is

00:28:27.460 DOJ

00:28:28.000 and FBI

00:28:28.760 and CIA

00:28:29.780 IRS

00:28:30.700 down through

00:28:32.700 our legal system

00:28:34.240 down through

00:28:35.460 our court system

00:28:36.740 at the appellate level

00:28:38.320 at the trial level

00:28:40.060 down to the local

00:28:41.800 district attorney

00:28:42.560 offices

00:28:43.160 etc

00:28:43.820 and then

00:28:45.260 infiltrating

00:28:46.240 into our

00:28:47.840 educational institutions

00:28:49.500 into the law schools

00:28:51.540 changing the way

00:28:53.120 the law is

00:28:54.000 total disregard

00:28:55.320 for the constitution

00:28:56.200 and now we see

00:28:57.640 an indoctrination

00:28:58.760 of sorts

00:28:59.360 by those educators

00:29:00.720 to the future

00:29:02.700 lawyers that are

00:29:03.780 coming forward

00:29:04.680 and I think

00:29:05.240 it is a shame

00:29:06.280 because it is happening

00:29:07.480 as we know

00:29:08.540 in colleges

00:29:09.620 across the United States

00:29:11.180 universities

00:29:11.880 and institutions

00:29:13.740 of higher learning

00:29:14.900 whether it is

00:29:15.940 business schools

00:29:17.420 and legal schools

00:29:18.800 all of the above

00:29:19.760 law schools

00:29:20.400 are being infiltrated

00:29:21.480 and I think

00:29:22.760 that if I were to sit

00:29:23.580 in those classrooms

00:29:24.660 today

00:29:25.460 like I used to

00:29:26.600 so proudly

00:29:27.200 years ago

00:29:28.360 getting my law degree

00:29:29.760 I would find

00:29:30.920 a very different

00:29:31.680 learning environment

00:29:32.520 and I think

00:29:33.080 that is a shame

00:29:33.800 perhaps the one thing

00:29:42.100 to add to that

00:29:42.640 talking about the ACLU

00:29:44.040 defending the KKK

00:29:45.080 I mean

00:29:46.640 it wasn't that long ago

00:29:47.580 I graduated college

00:29:48.460 I moved to New York

00:29:49.240 and 9-11 happened

00:29:50.580 and the same

00:29:51.480 white shoe law firms

00:29:52.440 often would have been

00:29:53.720 in New York City

00:29:54.340 they were rushing

00:29:55.680 to defend

00:29:56.280 the 9-11 hijackers

00:29:58.780 and the other people

00:30:00.240 caught up in that

00:30:00.900 terrorist thing

00:30:01.360 but those same

00:30:02.020 white shoe law firms

00:30:03.140 in New York City

00:30:03.800 wouldn't dare defend

00:30:05.400 the former president

00:30:06.500 of the United States

00:30:07.520 just 20-something years later

00:30:09.460 so you know

00:30:10.840 perhaps just to show

00:30:12.240 the extremity of it

00:30:13.220 it's not just

00:30:14.020 their unwillingness

00:30:15.340 to do this

00:30:15.880 it's an unwillingness

00:30:17.420 based on political spectrum

00:30:20.020 not even speech

00:30:22.160 there's a consequence

00:30:23.520 to being even a little bit

00:30:25.020 conservative

00:30:25.460 or a little bit right wing

00:30:26.640 that's when you get attacked

00:30:27.700 so the fact that

00:30:28.860 these people would rush

00:30:30.020 to try to defend

00:30:31.000 people who committed

00:30:32.360 perhaps the most

00:30:33.100 atrocious attack

00:30:33.980 on American soil ever

00:30:35.520 those people have a right

00:30:37.900 to defend themselves

00:30:38.740 and have the highest level

00:30:40.280 of defense afforded

00:30:41.660 to them in possibly

00:30:43.020 in America

00:30:43.560 a former sitting president

00:30:45.560 someone who was once

00:30:46.600 you know lauded

00:30:47.360 in that same town

00:30:48.720 won't even get a call back

00:30:50.960 that's just the perspective

00:30:52.780 of how far things have fallen

00:30:54.020 and the dichotomy that exists

00:30:55.640 can I just add one point to that

00:30:58.340 which is for me at least

00:31:00.140 the fact that say

00:31:01.660 big law firms

00:31:02.820 or the ACLU after 9-11

00:31:04.240 wanted to jump in

00:31:05.740 and kind of test

00:31:06.500 the government's theory

00:31:07.240 there were all these new theories

00:31:08.160 about how we can imprison people

00:31:09.480 do we need to charge them

00:31:10.320 with crimes

00:31:10.780 can we pick them up

00:31:12.120 on American soil

00:31:12.760 can we

00:31:13.060 I'm glad those got contested

00:31:15.920 I think that's what

00:31:16.720 journalism and law

00:31:18.080 should be doing

00:31:18.740 is testing the limits

00:31:20.360 of government power

00:31:21.140 the problem for me

00:31:21.880 is the second part

00:31:22.700 which is that they

00:31:23.820 refuse now to apply

00:31:25.220 those principles

00:31:25.880 that we've all been taught

00:31:26.820 were so important

00:31:27.480 to apply universally

00:31:28.420 in any case

00:31:29.960 that might be perceived

00:31:31.520 as benefiting

00:31:32.840 the people Donald Trump

00:31:34.400 represents

00:31:35.160 Donald Trump himself

00:31:36.480 even though there are

00:31:37.560 similarly radical theories

00:31:39.160 being employed

00:31:39.880 to criminalize him

00:31:40.980 in that movement

00:31:41.680 I think that's the problem

00:31:43.040 is people are now unwilling

00:31:44.220 to challenge power

00:31:45.540 in the way they used to

00:31:46.220 and the reason for it

00:31:46.960 I just think it's so important too

00:31:48.080 is you know

00:31:49.160 I was talking earlier

00:31:49.680 about 2016 and Brexit

00:31:50.920 and the election

00:31:52.600 of Donald Trump

00:31:53.440 which is what traumatized

00:31:55.120 Western elites

00:31:55.920 into embracing

00:31:56.880 an explicit theory

00:31:58.080 of censorship

00:31:58.500 what happened there was

00:32:00.540 they could have said

00:32:01.720 to themselves

00:32:02.240 wait why did the British people

00:32:03.820 decide to leave

00:32:05.020 this sacred institution

00:32:06.840 the European Union

00:32:08.040 why did people decide

00:32:09.780 to embrace somebody

00:32:10.580 like Donald Trump

00:32:11.180 instead of Hillary Clinton

00:32:12.100 like this outsider

00:32:13.020 instead of this insider

00:32:13.820 and had they engaged

00:32:15.020 in an honest self-assessment

00:32:16.060 they would have said

00:32:16.780 we the institutional forces

00:32:19.160 of authority

00:32:19.800 have gone wildly off track

00:32:22.240 the people hate us

00:32:23.320 because we're not serving

00:32:24.900 their interest any longer

00:32:25.860 and they couldn't do that

00:32:27.380 because that would undermine

00:32:28.680 the legitimacy of their power

00:32:29.820 so what they did instead

00:32:30.680 was they invented an excuse

00:32:31.840 oh there's too much free speech

00:32:33.540 Russia is allowed

00:32:34.440 to manipulate our population

00:32:35.860 that's the only reason

00:32:36.720 they're angry

00:32:37.080 not because we're bad

00:32:37.800 but because Russia tricked them

00:32:39.340 into thinking that we're bad

00:32:40.480 or there's people

00:32:41.460 who are lying

00:32:42.240 they're right-wing

00:32:43.220 disinformation agents

00:32:44.400 and that's what we need

00:32:45.620 to control

00:32:46.040 and that's always how

00:32:46.860 authoritarianism happens

00:32:47.860 is you invent threats

00:32:49.320 and then you tell people

00:32:50.880 you have to give up rights

00:32:52.260 give up all limits

00:32:53.180 in defense of those threats

00:32:54.280 and that's why

00:32:54.920 there's no more ethos

00:32:55.800 like you guys were saying

00:32:56.660 why aren't law firms

00:32:58.300 willing to stand up

00:32:58.980 and say these radical theories

00:33:00.080 of prosecution

00:33:00.640 being used against Trump

00:33:01.620 and his movement

00:33:02.180 to call them insurrectionists

00:33:03.200 should be contested

00:33:04.400 it's because it's now taboo

00:33:05.980 to apply those principles

00:33:08.600 universally

00:33:09.440 and I think that's where

00:33:10.140 things have gone so wrong

00:33:10.980 just to highlight one thing

00:33:12.120 that might have been forgotten

00:33:13.660 or at least not mentioned

00:33:14.840 it's not just the weaponization

00:33:16.120 of all of these bodies

00:33:17.940 it's going after the lawyers

00:33:19.600 that do

00:33:19.920 it's not just going after Trump

00:33:20.960 John Eastman

00:33:22.300 Jeff Clark

00:33:23.160 Jenna Ellis

00:33:23.920 lawyers indicted

00:33:25.260 for giving legal advice

00:33:26.920 and it highlights

00:33:28.300 the problem of licensure

00:33:29.200 where once it's in the power

00:33:30.200 of the government

00:33:30.700 it gets weaponized

00:33:31.860 and abused

00:33:32.460 to go after the political disfavored

00:33:34.200 and I would also

00:33:35.060 just also highlight

00:33:35.900 replace political prejudice

00:33:37.580 with racial prejudice

00:33:38.540 and what we're seeing today

00:33:39.580 is exactly analogous

00:33:40.880 to what we saw decades ago

00:33:42.300 in the southern states

00:33:43.860 that the lefties of today

00:33:44.960 like to deride

00:33:46.040 and defame

00:33:46.740 and also one thing Chris

00:33:48.360 on going after Rumble

00:33:50.160 it's not just a question

00:33:51.420 of the countries

00:33:52.020 asking that Rumble

00:33:53.180 take down various channels

00:33:55.080 various accounts

00:33:55.980 I said this a while back

00:33:58.020 I don't even remember it

00:33:58.840 they're going to go

00:33:59.880 through the standard attacks

00:34:00.960 defame Rumble

00:34:01.980 call it a right wing whatever

00:34:03.160 try to go after Chris

00:34:04.600 but he's a pretty squeaky clean guy

00:34:05.780 so they haven't done

00:34:06.400 the hit pieces on him yet

00:34:07.700 but you know

00:34:08.260 run those stupid ads

00:34:09.220 with channels

00:34:10.940 and then say

00:34:11.320 look what they're running ads

00:34:12.660 next to these hateful channels

00:34:13.820 they're coming after them

00:34:15.340 with legislation now

00:34:16.340 and that's also what people

00:34:17.240 need to truly understand

00:34:18.360 they're going to try

00:34:19.100 to legislate

00:34:19.880 the competition

00:34:20.920 out of business

00:34:21.680 and legislate the competition

00:34:23.120 into silence

00:34:23.740 because you know

00:34:24.380 when they come up

00:34:24.920 with the link tax

00:34:26.340 disguise tax in my view

00:34:28.400 but for Google

00:34:29.020 to pay $100 million a year

00:34:30.700 that's just the cost

00:34:32.140 of doing business

00:34:32.800 while catering

00:34:33.660 to the government

00:34:34.160 that lets you

00:34:35.020 for smaller companies

00:34:36.340 I think Rumble

00:34:36.760 could probably afford it

00:34:37.560 but they're going to criminalize

00:34:39.120 the content that's on Rumble

00:34:40.580 they're going to criminalize

00:34:41.440 the content that's on Twitter

00:34:42.400 and then they're going to

00:34:43.100 go after the executives

00:34:44.000 to say you are hosting

00:34:45.420 hateful conduct

00:34:46.380 under our new legislation

00:34:47.260 and that's how

00:34:47.960 they're going to shut them down

00:34:48.760 good luck Chris

00:34:54.520 I'm sorry

00:34:54.880 I hope I didn't give anybody

00:34:55.600 any ideas

00:34:56.220 Viva can I ask you a question

00:34:59.420 because you

00:35:00.180 and Don Jr.

00:35:01.640 have described

00:35:02.520 an absolute politicization

00:35:04.800 of prosecutions

00:35:06.340 and judges

00:35:07.000 that actually

00:35:08.300 I don't think

00:35:09.140 it's been so brazen

00:35:10.400 in Canada

00:35:11.240 in Canada

00:35:11.760 it's more passive

00:35:12.700 and quiet

00:35:13.940 but I don't think

00:35:15.120 we've seen

00:35:15.620 the politics

00:35:16.740 of personal destruction

00:35:17.880 as much

00:35:18.700 in our country

00:35:19.280 which I'm puzzled by

00:35:20.660 because in the States

00:35:21.560 they have the First Amendment

00:35:22.560 and I think

00:35:23.600 they have more robust

00:35:24.380 checks and balances

00:35:25.180 is it coming to Canada

00:35:27.080 is that what C63 is

00:35:28.780 or have they silenced

00:35:30.480 all their critics

00:35:31.100 to begin with

00:35:31.700 I would say

00:35:32.700 it's coming to Canada

00:35:33.820 and it's being imported

00:35:34.860 to Canada

00:35:35.280 by Justin Trudeau

00:35:36.160 like freezing of the bank accounts

00:35:37.460 is weaponizing the system

00:35:38.900 pre-trial detention

00:35:40.780 of Tamara Leach

00:35:41.580 for weeks

00:35:42.420 Chris Barber

00:35:43.500 Pat King

00:35:44.140 you may not like these

00:35:45.120 you may not think

00:35:46.060 you like these people

00:35:46.780 but we've seen

00:35:47.560 the weaponization

00:35:48.280 of the system

00:35:48.740 denying bail

00:35:49.480 for non-violent

00:35:50.160 mischief charges

00:35:50.840 is absolute horse crap

00:35:52.520 so we're seeing it here

00:35:53.620 in the States

00:35:54.720 it's out of control

00:35:56.100 I mean

00:35:56.340 the Constitution

00:35:57.140 is all fine and well

00:35:58.060 but to quote a judge

00:35:59.500 her name is Judge Darkey

00:36:00.940 in this case

00:36:01.520 out of New York

00:36:02.200 Dexter Taylor

00:36:04.460 he's a man

00:36:05.180 who just got convicted

00:36:06.040 he hauled off

00:36:06.600 to Rikers Island

00:36:07.200 for assembling firearms

00:36:08.740 in his apartment

00:36:09.480 with lawfully procured kits

00:36:11.000 the judge in that court

00:36:12.400 allegedly

00:36:12.940 according to reporting

00:36:13.720 said

00:36:13.980 don't bring the Second Amendment

00:36:15.240 into this court

00:36:15.880 this is the state of New York

00:36:17.120 the Second Amendment

00:36:17.820 doesn't exist here

00:36:18.560 you have

00:36:19.820 and this has been reported

00:36:20.800 and you have like

00:36:21.460 states defying

00:36:22.840 Supreme Court rulings

00:36:23.780 so what you have

00:36:25.220 is total political lawlessness

00:36:26.620 just based on

00:36:27.840 political leaning

00:36:28.620 you know I guess

00:36:29.760 the heart of your answer is

00:36:31.380 we have it worse

00:36:32.540 it's just that they're going

00:36:33.420 after the Tamara Leach's

00:36:34.980 of the world

00:36:35.440 and the Arthur Pavlovsky's

00:36:36.620 of the world

00:36:37.020 rather than the Donald Trump's

00:36:38.720 of the world

00:36:38.900 how many

00:36:39.240 Arthur Pavlovsky

00:36:40.400 Pastor Coates

00:36:42.100 there's a number of pastors

00:36:44.000 locked up

00:36:44.740 and denied bail

00:36:45.860 meanwhile the dude

00:36:46.680 who drives a truck

00:36:47.440 into people

00:36:47.920 at the Winnipeg protest

00:36:48.960 let on a bail

00:36:50.040 it was a big bail

00:36:50.820 but it's weaponizing

00:36:52.920 and applying different rules

00:36:54.760 to different people

00:36:55.580 depending on ideologies

00:36:56.560 we're seeing it in Canada

00:36:57.240 we're just more complacent

00:36:58.420 and more polite

00:36:59.260 and we don't want to fight

00:37:00.400 but there are

00:37:01.580 you know

00:37:01.960 I think there's a lot of us

00:37:02.820 who are fighting

00:37:03.420 but there's definitely

00:37:04.640 a different sort of culture

00:37:05.700 that probably should change

00:37:07.100 sooner than later

00:37:07.640 hey Chris

00:37:08.560 oh go ahead

00:37:09.180 yeah

00:37:09.560 I think the other

00:37:11.160 distinction here

00:37:12.120 is that

00:37:12.740 you know

00:37:13.900 the political power

00:37:15.180 in Canada

00:37:16.120 is all for this

00:37:17.720 censorship

00:37:18.160 it's all for this

00:37:19.260 it's the grassroots

00:37:20.320 movements in Canada

00:37:21.500 that are all for freedom

00:37:22.440 whereas

00:37:23.140 it's a little different

00:37:24.520 in the United States

00:37:25.220 you have people

00:37:26.160 in power

00:37:27.060 that are fighting

00:37:27.740 for freedom

00:37:28.260 and fighting

00:37:28.800 for rights

00:37:29.340 whereas you don't have

00:37:30.780 that really

00:37:31.320 in Canada quite yet

00:37:32.460 not yet anyways

00:37:33.980 but I hope that changes

00:37:35.500 in due time

00:37:36.540 one of the things

00:37:37.760 that you know

00:37:39.680 that we just experienced

00:37:40.900 which is

00:37:41.460 it talks a lot

00:37:43.260 about the media

00:37:43.820 here in Canada

00:37:44.560 and it's

00:37:45.480 we had hit piece

00:37:47.440 after hit piece

00:37:48.520 after hit piece

00:37:49.400 the Globe and Mail

00:37:50.240 and it goes on

00:37:51.980 CTV

00:37:52.500 you name it

00:37:53.300 when it came

00:37:54.660 when it came

00:37:55.320 to Rumble

00:37:56.140 and blocking France

00:37:58.620 for allowing

00:38:00.700 Russian outlets

00:38:02.360 on Rumble

00:38:02.820 based on free expression

00:38:04.120 and not violating

00:38:04.720 our terms

00:38:05.300 but not a single paper

00:38:07.340 in Canada

00:38:08.640 you know

00:38:09.700 we're a two billion dollar

00:38:10.820 market cap company

00:38:11.840 we're not small

00:38:12.760 we have the biggest

00:38:14.420 influencers in the world

00:38:15.900 on our platform

00:38:17.060 including his dad

00:38:18.220 and Don

00:38:19.060 and many others

00:38:20.060 Kim

00:38:20.480 Glenn

00:38:21.300 Viva

00:38:22.080 and

00:38:27.720 not a single paper

00:38:30.400 both in the US

00:38:31.460 and Canada

00:38:32.700 covered the fact

00:38:34.480 that Russia blocked

00:38:35.680 Rumble

00:38:36.040 what does that say

00:38:38.580 the bias is written

00:38:40.440 by not writing

00:38:41.800 and you can all see it

00:38:43.740 because

00:38:44.200 when we protected

00:38:46.660 things we may

00:38:48.120 or may not agree with

00:38:49.660 they come after us

00:38:51.140 but when they

00:38:52.080 shut us off

00:38:53.100 they don't want

00:38:53.640 to let you know

00:38:54.160 that they shut us off

00:38:55.040 in fact

00:38:55.500 YouTube's still running

00:38:57.320 in Russia

00:38:57.780 perfectly fine

00:38:59.260 which means

00:39:00.520 obviously

00:39:01.260 that they're taking

00:39:02.280 some kind of

00:39:03.120 orders

00:39:03.600 and complying

00:39:04.540 so

00:39:06.400 these are the questions

00:39:07.560 that need to be asked

00:39:08.400 and it's

00:39:08.820 Chris

00:39:09.180 from one accused

00:39:10.460 Russia agent

00:39:11.340 to another

00:39:12.080 you're doing

00:39:14.520 a really lousy job

00:39:15.920 as an agent

00:39:16.480 of Russia

00:39:17.040 just so we're clear

00:39:18.520 Chris

00:39:22.400 one of the important

00:39:24.180 things about

00:39:24.840 today

00:39:25.760 has been to

00:39:26.420 ring the alarm

00:39:27.220 and I think

00:39:27.960 we need to

00:39:28.600 before people

00:39:29.520 can take steps

00:39:30.260 to fix things

00:39:31.040 they need to know

00:39:31.760 there's a problem

00:39:32.440 and what the problem

00:39:33.100 is

00:39:33.480 but people can be

00:39:35.140 demoralized

00:39:35.940 or depressed

00:39:36.480 a little bit

00:39:37.140 this is what

00:39:38.940 you do full time

00:39:39.900 you are the leading

00:39:40.680 free speech platform

00:39:41.800 in the world

00:39:42.300 and you're big

00:39:43.060 two billion dollars

00:39:44.000 market cap

00:39:44.660 so you brush up

00:39:47.760 against other

00:39:48.500 big people

00:39:49.540 some enemies

00:39:50.180 but some allies

00:39:52.040 too I hope

00:39:52.760 can you give us

00:39:53.680 a few green shoots

00:39:55.300 of hope

00:39:55.820 are there other people

00:39:57.160 in this battle

00:39:57.980 are there other

00:39:58.560 governments

00:39:59.660 are there other forces

00:40:00.820 that maybe we should

00:40:02.340 be excited about

00:40:03.260 or hopeful for

00:40:04.020 so

00:40:05.380 you know

00:40:06.360 I guess

00:40:06.820 the first thing

00:40:08.000 is that

00:40:08.740 Rumble does have

00:40:09.760 a two billion dollar

00:40:10.560 market cap

00:40:11.300 and that is

00:40:12.380 a huge honor

00:40:13.820 and a huge success

00:40:14.900 because we're

00:40:16.000 pushing the envelope

00:40:17.880 we're the tip of the spear

00:40:18.940 for freedom of expression

00:40:19.960 and that shows

00:40:20.640 that there's a lot

00:40:21.700 of people

00:40:22.040 that really believe

00:40:22.800 in what we're doing

00:40:23.480 and that's

00:40:24.700 that's the biggest honor

00:40:25.600 of all

00:40:26.060 and

00:40:30.860 you know

00:40:33.020 I will say

00:40:34.740 that I think

00:40:35.340 things are starting

00:40:36.160 to tilt our way

00:40:37.040 and they're starting

00:40:38.060 to tilt our way

00:40:38.740 a lot quicker

00:40:39.600 we have

00:40:40.500 the biggest influencers

00:40:42.420 in the world

00:40:43.240 are

00:40:44.140 on our side

00:40:45.460 whether they're not

00:40:46.120 saying it

00:40:46.880 or whether they're

00:40:47.900 saying it

00:40:48.400 and we have

00:40:48.780 lots that are

00:40:49.560 saying it as well

00:40:50.360 but there's a lot

00:40:51.680 of influencers

00:40:52.260 that are definitely

00:40:53.120 on our side

00:40:53.640 that I haven't really

00:40:54.300 kind of spoken out yet

00:40:55.380 and I think that

00:40:56.280 the scales have

00:40:58.180 really tipped

00:40:58.980 a big time

00:41:00.100 in the United States

00:41:01.060 and I think in Canada

00:41:02.340 it's not quite there yet

00:41:03.840 people are still afraid

00:41:05.120 they're still afraid

00:41:06.160 to voice things

00:41:07.100 Canadians just

00:41:07.940 approach things

00:41:08.820 a little bit different

00:41:09.500 than they do in America

00:41:10.480 in America

00:41:10.920 it's just like

00:41:11.700 they say whatever

00:41:12.980 they want

00:41:13.480 whereas in Canada

00:41:14.180 we're kind of like

00:41:14.900 tight lipped

00:41:15.460 you know

00:41:15.740 you get bank accounts

00:41:16.620 shut down

00:41:17.120 if you're out

00:41:17.580 dancing with hockey sticks

00:41:19.060 in the middle

00:41:20.040 of a winter

00:41:20.560 like it's a different

00:41:21.780 environment over here

00:41:23.300 but I will say

00:41:24.400 that like

00:41:24.960 you know

00:41:25.860 Rumble is

00:41:26.740 is an example

00:41:27.820 of that success

00:41:29.300 the influencers

00:41:31.000 and the shows

00:41:32.800 on Rumble

00:41:33.320 are demonstrating

00:41:34.600 that success

00:41:35.940 and I do think

00:41:39.140 in the United States

00:41:40.000 we are seeing

00:41:40.660 like a major movement

00:41:42.340 towards freedom

00:41:43.800 and free expression

00:41:44.860 in the defense of that

00:41:46.000 when I first started

00:41:47.920 I remember

00:41:49.200 half of America

00:41:50.540 was like

00:41:51.100 I remember reporters

00:41:52.520 saying like

00:41:53.140 free speech on TV

00:41:54.440 is like

00:41:55.100 another word

00:41:55.940 for hate speech

00:41:56.740 and I was like

00:41:57.780 freedom

00:41:59.200 freedom is the rallying call

00:42:00.800 it was freedom

00:42:01.400 is the rallying call

00:42:02.280 of the far right

00:42:02.940 was a CBC article

00:42:03.840 I believe

00:42:04.160 no this was CBS

00:42:05.740 the one I was thinking about

00:42:07.160 they were making

00:42:07.980 freedom of expression

00:42:09.320 to like hate speech

00:42:10.360 and I was like

00:42:11.020 what

00:42:11.540 like how did we get

00:42:12.400 the woman's rights

00:42:13.740 movements

00:42:14.120 the civil rights movements

00:42:15.840 that's because of free speech

00:42:17.260 like free speech

00:42:18.280 is like the cornerstone

00:42:19.360 of democracy

00:42:20.020 and I think

00:42:20.920 in the last two years

00:42:22.600 since the

00:42:23.520 I think it was CBS

00:42:24.540 that did that live on air

00:42:27.000 I think like

00:42:28.520 the majority now

00:42:29.560 are like

00:42:30.080 I think I saw a poll

00:42:31.260 it was like 69%

00:42:32.560 of Americans now

00:42:35.180 think that

00:42:35.740 you know

00:42:36.220 not only do they believe

00:42:37.600 in free speech

00:42:38.240 but they believe

00:42:38.860 they're being infringed

00:42:39.740 too much

00:42:40.480 so like

00:42:41.320 the scales have tipped

00:42:43.200 and like

00:42:44.240 you have to think

00:42:45.620 like a lot of different things

00:42:47.000 rumble

00:42:47.480 X

00:42:47.980 people

00:42:48.760 public square

00:42:50.120 the whole parallel economy

00:42:51.780 that's now kind of like

00:42:53.020 exploding right now

00:42:54.800 right underneath us

00:42:55.800 and it's kind of

00:42:56.340 really coming out

00:42:57.020 of the United States

00:42:57.600 the US is like

00:42:58.880 the place to fight right now

00:43:01.120 and I think it's winning

00:43:01.980 big

00:43:02.420 and I'm really hopeful

00:43:03.740 that it's going to

00:43:04.620 kind of leak into Canada

00:43:06.800 and I think it is

00:43:07.520 this is why we're here

00:43:08.360 and people know

00:43:10.000 how important it is

00:43:10.840 look at this room

00:43:11.340 it's full

00:43:11.780 it's sold out

00:43:12.700 and it's

00:43:13.920 I think Canadians are ready

00:43:16.700 I think Canadians are ready

00:43:19.440 right

00:43:19.880 well Don

00:43:26.560 there's a quirk in Canada

00:43:28.180 that sometimes

00:43:29.100 Canadian politicians

00:43:30.180 and Canadian journalists

00:43:31.980 don't care as much

00:43:33.780 about the Canadian reaction

00:43:34.800 as American reaction

00:43:36.160 and foreign reaction

00:43:37.360 I saw the Toronto Star

00:43:38.700 sort of shocked

00:43:39.980 and excited

00:43:40.840 at the same time

00:43:41.580 that you were coming here

00:43:42.680 yeah me too

00:43:43.400 I was like

00:43:43.700 and so I want to say

00:43:47.080 thanks to everyone here

00:43:48.640 for helping

00:43:49.340 raise the alarm

00:43:50.540 around the world

00:43:51.200 because Trudeau cares a lot

00:43:53.400 about his international reputation

00:43:55.380 maybe even more

00:43:56.100 than he cares

00:43:56.560 what Canadians think of him

00:43:57.660 can I ask you a question

00:43:59.480 if there's a 2024 victory

00:44:02.960 for your father

00:44:04.200 can you think of changes

00:44:06.620 a lot of fans here

00:44:15.420 a lot of fans

00:44:16.500 it could be worse

00:44:18.720 keep going

00:44:19.280 you're amongst friends

00:44:35.220 we need a Canadian Trump

00:44:36.540 you're amongst friends

00:44:37.800 is there something

00:44:41.760 that you think

00:44:43.620 should be changed

00:44:44.520 that's within the power

00:44:45.480 of the government

00:44:46.080 is there some policy

00:44:48.140 or some budget

00:44:49.840 or some office

00:44:50.800 that's an easy change

00:44:52.400 to strengthen free speech

00:44:53.440 well I think you have to

00:44:54.780 just eliminate so much of it

00:44:56.160 I mean I think the bureaucracies

00:44:57.400 have gotten so big

00:44:58.380 there's no accountability

00:44:59.240 there's no consequence

00:45:00.320 you get in a position of power

00:45:01.740 and even for those

00:45:03.020 I see it

00:45:04.020 they enter politics

00:45:06.660 oftentimes perhaps

00:45:07.640 for the right reason

00:45:08.460 but there's sort of

00:45:10.000 the saying

00:45:10.900 the swamp is undefeated

00:45:12.540 you get there

00:45:14.420 and I ask guys this

00:45:15.480 I go why doesn't that guy

00:45:16.600 fight harder

00:45:17.260 it felt like he went in

00:45:18.300 well you know

00:45:18.900 he was a state legislator

00:45:20.140 didn't get paid for 15 years

00:45:21.720 and he shared a last name

00:45:23.380 with someone

00:45:23.720 who was a congressman

00:45:24.500 for 25 years

00:45:25.360 the guy dies

00:45:25.980 he basically walked

00:45:26.760 into his seat

00:45:27.240 because it's like

00:45:28.360 The Distinguished Gentleman

00:45:29.320 the Eddie Murphy movie

00:45:30.120 it's the name you know

00:45:31.060 so this guy becomes

00:45:32.900 a congressman from nothing

00:45:34.060 and all of a sudden

00:45:34.700 there's people kissing his ass

00:45:36.060 and he's invited

00:45:37.400 to the cool person party

00:45:38.500 and he's got to see

00:45:39.140 and guess what

00:45:40.180 he's never leaving

00:45:41.580 and so you know

00:45:42.960 for me the big thing

00:45:44.020 is just eliminating

00:45:45.040 as much of that government

00:45:46.340 as possible

00:45:47.100 breaking down

00:45:48.240 those institutions

00:45:49.160 making sure

00:45:50.560 making sure you don't have

00:45:52.800 that permanent bureaucracy

00:45:53.940 right

00:45:54.360 it's sort of like

00:45:54.900 the Anthony Fauci's

00:45:55.820 of the world

00:45:56.120 like I think you can

00:45:57.260 look at his record

00:45:57.980 and realize that

00:45:58.580 at no time

00:45:59.220 was he ever the best doctor

00:46:00.560 in anything

00:46:01.240 but he was the best bureaucrat

00:46:05.180 he was the best snake

00:46:07.100 he never met a camera

00:46:08.160 he didn't love

00:46:08.880 if you stood in his way

00:46:10.100 even if you were right

00:46:11.400 he'd burn you to the ground

00:46:12.780 and perpetuate that

00:46:14.380 and so I think you have

00:46:15.980 to get rid of that

00:46:16.680 entrenched bureaucracy

00:46:17.620 as best as possible

00:46:18.580 I think we're much more

00:46:19.400 in tune to be able

00:46:20.080 to do that in a second term

00:46:21.260 because the first time

00:46:22.300 we came in not knowing

00:46:23.180 like why didn't you do this

00:46:24.420 I was like well

00:46:24.760 we assumed

00:46:25.340 by the way I assumed it

00:46:26.800 when they went after me

00:46:28.120 I assumed well

00:46:28.680 you know the FBI

00:46:29.540 I mean the CIA

00:46:30.440 they said I did something wrong

00:46:31.820 like I know I didn't do

00:46:33.180 anything intentionally

00:46:34.020 but maybe I met with someone

00:46:35.140 that was an agent

00:46:36.220 there must be

00:46:37.000 I wanted to believe

00:46:38.460 that everything I was told

00:46:40.080 about America

00:46:40.760 and the patriots

00:46:41.560 that work in public service

00:46:42.880 it's bullshit

00:46:43.640 okay

00:46:43.980 the entire foundation

00:46:46.260 we've been sold

00:46:47.760 for our entire lives

00:46:48.840 is a lie

00:46:49.520 and so I think

00:46:50.880 we have to break down

00:46:51.680 that bureaucracy

00:46:52.180 put people in there

00:46:53.000 who don't need the job

00:46:54.260 who it's not their turn

00:46:55.360 it's not the next line

00:46:56.600 of progression

00:46:57.220 to perpetuate

00:46:58.680 the same bureaucracy

00:46:59.520 that caused all these troubles

00:47:00.640 and then I think

00:47:01.560 you end up doing it

00:47:02.500 to what Chris is saying

00:47:03.240 in the public sector

00:47:04.420 where corporate America

00:47:06.240 has become so entrenched

00:47:07.460 with that

00:47:07.740 because they do control

00:47:08.960 Washington D.C.

00:47:10.180 with the money

00:47:10.620 whether it's what we see

00:47:11.840 with the military

00:47:12.500 industrial complex

00:47:13.580 and the never ending wars

00:47:14.780 whether it's what you see

00:47:16.040 with big tech

00:47:16.780 and basically owning Congress

00:47:19.880 not just the Democrats

00:47:21.500 but the Republicans

00:47:22.320 who in front of a small group

00:47:23.980 of three people

00:47:24.560 in their home state

00:47:25.260 they'll tell you

00:47:25.740 what you want to hear

00:47:26.340 but they'll still vote

00:47:27.520 to give meta unlimited power

00:47:29.020 or Google unlimited power

00:47:30.500 or whatever it may be

00:47:31.640 and so simultaneously

00:47:33.240 to Chris's point

00:47:34.700 that emergence

00:47:35.320 of the parallel economy

00:47:36.420 where people can take the time

00:47:38.240 to not just feed

00:47:39.460 Amazon and their lobbyists

00:47:41.900 Google and their lobbyists

00:47:44.220 find the small businesses

00:47:45.940 give them your money

00:47:47.000 take the time

00:47:47.540 there's an entire network

00:47:49.180 emerging of people

00:47:50.000 who've had enough

00:47:50.660 that they understand

00:47:51.540 what's going on

00:47:52.780 and they're voting

00:47:53.280 with their wallets as well

00:47:54.640 and when you take away

00:47:55.840 the financial side

00:47:56.900 of the beast

00:47:57.660 that's a huge impact

00:48:00.260 not just politically

00:48:02.920 but across the entire spectrum

00:48:04.820 and that's happening

00:48:05.460 that's why

00:48:05.860 Public Square

00:48:06.860 sponsoring an event like this

00:48:08.120 having the guts

00:48:08.720 to go out there

00:48:09.180 and do that

00:48:09.500 where they're finding people

00:48:11.300 who are of like mind

00:48:13.540 who understand

00:48:14.160 what's going on

00:48:15.040 and by sucking the funds

00:48:16.300 out of the system

00:48:17.060 you naturally weaken

00:48:19.220 that system also

00:48:20.040 so it's so critical

00:48:21.440 that we just stop

00:48:22.120 and it's so easy

00:48:23.120 just to hit the button

00:48:23.920 on Amazon

00:48:24.400 and then you know

00:48:25.100 then Jeff Bezos

00:48:26.100 takes his $10 billion

00:48:27.060 to every lobbyist

00:48:28.120 that they own

00:48:28.620 in Washington DC

00:48:29.400 and they get what they want

00:48:30.780 each and every time

00:48:31.660 whether it's good

00:48:32.300 for the American people

00:48:33.180 or a total abject disaster

00:48:35.740 and it's always the latter

00:48:37.080 it's always the latter

00:48:38.860 so you know

00:48:39.380 we have to play

00:48:39.960 both of those games

00:48:40.760 I just want to say

00:48:42.640 we've got five minutes left

00:48:44.440 before the Trumps

00:48:46.100 have to get to the airport

00:48:47.740 and we've been very lucky

00:48:49.280 to have them

00:48:50.200 for so many hours today

00:48:51.620 and the whole panel

00:48:52.700 would you agree with me

00:48:53.660 so I propose

00:48:58.040 to use the last five minutes

00:49:00.280 just for quick snappers

00:49:02.300 and ending with Chris Pavlovsky

00:49:04.860 our great supporter

00:49:06.440 benefactor

00:49:07.180 and the brains behind Rumble

00:49:10.020 so unless Chris

00:49:11.800 you have another plan

00:49:12.540 I propose we conclude

00:49:13.860 the panel with quick statements

00:49:14.960 it's been wonderful

00:49:15.840 to hear so many voices

00:49:17.300 what a great spectrum

00:49:18.740 of opinions

00:49:19.240 let's start with my friend

00:49:20.740 David Vryheit

00:49:21.840 Viva Fry

00:49:22.460 you asked the question earlier

00:49:23.440 I'll make sure this is on

00:49:24.020 that you know

00:49:24.860 more people are waking up

00:49:26.240 in the states sort of

00:49:27.160 and I think it's what happens

00:49:28.240 when they overplay their hand

00:49:29.540 and they come for you

00:49:30.320 the old poem is

00:49:31.200 you know

00:49:31.420 you don't do anything

00:49:32.000 until they come for you

00:49:32.820 in the states

00:49:33.760 they came for a great many people

00:49:35.240 they've done it here now as well

00:49:36.720 and I think one of the

00:49:37.880 by the way

00:49:38.260 earlier on

00:49:38.720 when I looked at the camera

00:49:39.620 in my dramatic moment

00:49:40.560 and I said

00:49:41.020 I think I said Trump

00:49:42.240 instead of Trudeau

00:49:43.020 because of all the things

00:49:44.540 people call Trump

00:49:45.320 blackface is not one of them

00:49:46.900 but

00:49:47.360 so that was

00:49:48.720 I almost disavowed David

00:49:50.080 I was like listen

00:49:50.840 we've been friends for a while

00:49:53.640 but now you're out

00:49:54.860 they always end up

00:49:57.360 by overplaying their hands

00:49:58.220 and I think Trudeau

00:49:58.920 might have overplayed

00:49:59.620 his hand here

00:50:00.160 when for example

00:50:01.440 kicking Poilievre

00:50:02.280 out of parliament

00:50:02.880 for the day

00:50:03.320 that's overplaying your hand

00:50:04.980 to the point

00:50:05.480 where now everybody sees it

00:50:06.900 thanks David

00:50:08.200 Glenn

00:50:08.800 what a pleasure

00:50:10.000 to meet you in person

00:50:10.900 I can't believe

00:50:11.500 how far you've traveled

00:50:12.540 you've given so much

00:50:14.160 to us today

00:50:14.640 give us a final thought

00:50:15.660 thank you

00:50:16.440 thank you

00:50:18.060 so I just want to

00:50:21.520 I'll just tell one quick anecdote

00:50:22.760 I've been with Rumble

00:50:24.400 at Rumble now

00:50:25.000 I think for two years

00:50:26.320 a little bit more than that

00:50:27.200 and I noticed

00:50:27.840 when I went there

00:50:28.620 and then other people

00:50:29.340 started going there

00:50:29.960 and it started growing

00:50:30.660 into public consciousness

00:50:31.500 you saw this like

00:50:32.980 intense media attack

00:50:34.100 immediately emerge

00:50:35.040 and they used

00:50:35.820 all the standard insults

00:50:37.520 that they use

00:50:37.900 anytime they want to

00:50:38.580 destroy anyone's reputation

00:50:39.720 you know it's like

00:50:40.320 a Kremlin outlet

00:50:41.600 and that's why

00:50:42.140 they can't grapple

00:50:42.740 with the fact that

00:50:43.520 Russia just banned Rumble

00:50:44.880 because it's kind of odd

00:50:45.900 for them simultaneously

00:50:46.840 to be a pro-Kremlin

00:50:47.880 disinformation outlet

00:50:49.120 and simultaneously

00:50:50.560 be banned in Russia

00:50:51.480 that's why they can't mention it

00:50:52.700 because they've been

00:50:53.100 calling them a Kremlin agent

00:50:53.940 for so long

00:50:54.460 but also calling Chris

00:50:56.720 you know the founder

00:50:57.580 and the CEO of Rumble

00:50:59.160 this like fascist

00:51:00.660 and far-right extremist

00:51:02.000 and I would remember

00:51:03.060 like hearing this

00:51:03.860 at the time

00:51:04.800 when it became

00:51:05.160 this media script

00:51:06.660 and I was like

00:51:07.140 what Chris

00:51:08.020 you guys have heard

00:51:09.380 he's Canadian

00:51:10.460 like very Canadian

00:51:11.520 and I have never once

00:51:14.100 heard Chris in my life

00:51:15.300 express any idea

00:51:17.940 that could accurately

00:51:19.260 be described as like

00:51:20.140 far-right or fascist

00:51:21.440 but Chris is a believer

00:51:24.080 in free speech

00:51:24.820 he's devoted himself

00:51:25.760 to free speech

00:51:26.460 and all my life

00:51:27.780 that was an idea

00:51:28.500 that was just basic liberalism

00:51:29.960 like liberalism

00:51:30.760 not in a partisan sense

00:51:31.720 but just being a western liberal

00:51:32.920 it has now become

00:51:34.280 as you guys mentioned earlier

00:51:35.360 free speech

00:51:36.240 has become

00:51:37.040 a coded

00:51:38.380 as like a fascist idea

00:51:40.240 and it's like

00:51:40.780 what every fascist government

00:51:42.160 in the world

00:51:42.840 has never offered free speech

00:51:44.660 they've always imposed censorship

00:51:46.180 it's like a hallmark

00:51:47.120 of fascism

00:51:47.680 not to defend free speech

00:51:48.860 but to impose censorship

00:51:50.820 and

00:51:51.860 I think what it shows

00:51:54.360 is like

00:51:54.760 how desperate

00:51:55.520 the media is

00:51:56.700 to crush

00:51:57.780 any outlet

00:51:59.160 or any platform

00:52:00.000 that allows

00:52:00.560 other voices

00:52:01.260 to be heard

00:52:01.680 they're so desperate

00:52:02.580 to win back

00:52:03.300 their monopoly

00:52:03.880 on information

00:52:05.100 and the reason

00:52:05.800 isn't only because

00:52:06.780 they don't want

00:52:07.780 dissenting voices

00:52:08.440 to be heard

00:52:08.940 it's because

00:52:09.340 they want only

00:52:10.160 their voices

00:52:10.720 to dominate

00:52:11.260 like they used to

00:52:12.300 and I think

00:52:13.240 the best thing

00:52:13.860 to take away

00:52:14.420 from this

00:52:14.940 is although you can

00:52:15.720 complain about that

00:52:16.460 and we should

00:52:17.080 there is so much

00:52:18.580 reason for optimism

00:52:19.480 the emergence

00:52:20.120 of this independent media

00:52:21.200 no one cares anymore

00:52:22.220 what those outlets say

00:52:23.200 every time I read myself

00:52:24.720 being called a fascist

00:52:26.100 or whatever

00:52:26.420 I don't even care anymore

00:52:27.720 because I know people

00:52:29.080 have tuned them out

00:52:29.800 the emergence

00:52:30.820 of independent media

00:52:31.580 and the commitment

00:52:32.060 to free speech

00:52:32.740 ensures that we can

00:52:33.640 always gather like this

00:52:34.720 and there's always

00:52:35.300 we can gather like this

00:52:36.300 and on the internet

00:52:36.820 there's always so much

00:52:38.300 hope to take them down

00:52:39.580 history shows that

00:52:40.460 thank you

00:52:41.200 well

00:52:45.720 I'm fairly confident

00:52:47.620 that both Glenn

00:52:48.500 and I never thought

00:52:49.620 that we'd be on stage

00:52:50.540 with such alt-right extremists

00:52:51.960 like Glenn Greenwald

00:52:53.920 but I think

00:52:55.700 to your point

00:52:56.320 is you're right

00:52:57.280 and Viva

00:52:57.780 you said it as well

00:52:58.520 that pendulum

00:52:59.420 has overcorrected so much

00:53:00.760 they've gotten so comfortable

00:53:01.960 with the media

00:53:03.660 and with tech

00:53:04.360 running cover

00:53:05.720 that they really

00:53:07.320 sort of opened

00:53:08.120 the kimono

00:53:08.640 to their true intentions

00:53:10.160 and just how radical

00:53:11.080 and far they are

00:53:11.980 and honestly

00:53:12.820 I don't think

00:53:13.400 it aligns

00:53:14.240 with the vast majority

00:53:15.220 of people

00:53:15.660 in the US

00:53:16.480 or Canada

00:53:17.100 I think there's

00:53:19.080 a great number

00:53:19.880 of independents

00:53:20.640 there's those

00:53:21.320 on the radical side

00:53:22.560 of the extreme side

00:53:23.540 of both spectrums

00:53:24.660 frankly

00:53:24.940 but I think people

00:53:27.160 now understand

00:53:28.080 just what's at stake

00:53:29.480 and so I think

00:53:30.180 my closing message

00:53:31.440 would be for everyone

00:53:32.340 to just

00:53:32.780 to get involved

00:53:34.160 because you have

00:53:34.940 no choice

00:53:35.600 you can no longer

00:53:37.060 sit aside

00:53:37.740 you can still be polite

00:53:39.500 I don't always

00:53:41.140 recommend it

00:53:41.780 because I think

00:53:42.380 our governments

00:53:43.500 and those in the media

00:53:44.880 have taken our politeness

00:53:46.220 and taken advantage

00:53:47.780 of that

00:53:48.220 and they've weaponized

00:53:49.400 against us

00:53:49.980 so I think

00:53:50.300 we've got to be

00:53:50.680 a little more assertive

00:53:51.520 than that

00:53:51.920 in our language

00:53:53.380 but we do have

00:53:55.740 to get involved

00:53:56.420 we have to talk

00:53:57.120 to our neighbors

00:53:57.740 we have to explain

00:53:58.680 to them the things

00:53:59.340 that they will not see

00:54:00.400 otherwise

00:54:01.360 you know

00:54:01.920 you'll see it on rumble

00:54:02.760 but you're not going

00:54:03.280 to see it

00:54:03.580 by turning on the CBC

00:54:04.500 so we have to understand

00:54:06.560 that we have to make sure

00:54:07.420 that people get

00:54:08.120 what is a state

00:54:09.240 just the extreme nature

00:54:11.000 of it

00:54:11.200 and I think

00:54:11.480 if we do that

00:54:12.000 we actually win

00:54:12.920 resoundingly

00:54:14.160 but we all have to do it

00:54:15.640 it's not going to happen

00:54:16.520 because one guy

00:54:17.340 like a Donald Trump

00:54:18.120 is out there saying it

00:54:19.080 they've shown

00:54:19.860 that they will cancel

00:54:20.780 you know

00:54:21.820 arrest

00:54:22.500 jail

00:54:23.280 the most powerful people

00:54:24.440 in the world

00:54:25.080 we need to do that

00:54:26.320 as a collective

00:54:27.020 and when we do that

00:54:27.800 and we band together

00:54:28.760 they will not silence us all

00:54:30.680 so I want to say

00:54:38.600 to the beautiful people

00:54:40.260 of Canada

00:54:40.960 who are incredibly

00:54:42.560 well mannered

00:54:43.820 and well behaved

00:54:44.700 thank you

00:54:45.540 we owe you a debt

00:54:46.280 of gratitude

00:54:46.920 for producing

00:54:48.340 this Canadian

00:54:49.180 that helped

00:54:50.440 to make free speech

00:54:51.720 great again

00:54:52.740 and if I can ask you

00:54:55.000 thank you Chris

00:54:56.120 with any takeaway

00:54:57.220 you can be both courteous

00:54:58.900 and courageous

00:54:59.940 that's my message

00:55:01.020 to Canada

00:55:01.760 because you want

00:55:02.880 to fight

00:55:03.340 for your children

00:55:04.060 and for future generations

00:55:05.420 do not wait

00:55:07.100 for your voices

00:55:07.760 to be heard

00:55:08.680 before it is too late

00:55:10.040 and you don't recognize

00:55:11.320 your country

00:55:12.400 think about

00:55:13.000 what you can do

00:55:13.960 today

00:55:14.480 to exercise

00:55:15.420 your free speech

00:55:16.940 your voice

00:55:18.260 to actually express

00:55:20.180 your values

00:55:21.140 with where you shop

00:55:22.460 with who you listen to

00:55:23.900 for the platforms

00:55:24.860 that you support

00:55:26.320 it is worth it

00:55:27.840 and quite frankly

00:55:28.740 it's too great

00:55:29.800 of a country

00:55:30.440 to let it go down

00:55:32.000 to decline

00:55:33.060 the way that

00:55:33.680 some of the Marxists

00:55:34.620 that are here

00:55:35.440 want to do it

00:55:36.220 so stand up

00:55:37.240 for what you believe in

00:55:38.500 and it's simplistic

00:55:40.680 but not sophomoric

00:55:41.920 because if you do this

00:55:43.340 then you will do what

00:55:44.520 make Canada

00:55:45.940 great again

00:55:47.340 well we're almost done

00:55:53.880 an amazing day

00:55:55.140 and I can't even believe

00:55:56.380 that you came here

00:55:57.360 after your surgery

00:55:58.860 I mean you came in

00:55:59.800 on crutches

00:56:00.740 and you walked

00:56:01.320 on the stage

00:56:01.880 unbelievable

00:56:02.320 no snowflake here

00:56:03.300 we just do it

00:56:04.380 if I say I'm going to be

00:56:05.140 somewhere

00:56:05.440 we're going to be there

00:56:06.140 thank you for that

00:56:07.180 but the man who made

00:56:08.440 this all possible

00:56:09.360 not only the platform

00:56:10.740 but the financial

00:56:11.860 means to have this event

00:56:14.000 despite the attempt

00:56:15.320 to cancel it

00:56:15.920 by the government

00:56:16.940 that owns the land

00:56:17.740 under this building

00:56:18.400 is Chris Peblowski

00:56:20.340 and Chris

00:56:20.740 I want to thank you

00:56:21.540 on behalf of

00:56:22.240 not only everyone

00:56:23.180 in the room

00:56:23.580 but everyone watching

00:56:24.520 at home

00:56:25.100 and everyone who has

00:56:26.180 used Rumble

00:56:26.760 to access the truth

00:56:27.880 thank you for allowing

00:56:29.520 Rebel News

00:56:30.160 to succeed and thrive

00:56:31.580 it's a personal debt

00:56:32.740 I have to you

00:56:33.340 why don't you wrap up

00:56:34.520 the conference today

00:56:35.460 with some thoughts

00:56:36.200 give us a little hope

00:56:37.300 yeah

00:56:37.880 well thank you Ezra

00:56:39.720 so first

00:56:40.580 I want to thank

00:56:41.280 the sponsors

00:56:41.860 Public Square

00:56:42.580 and 1775 Coffee

00:56:44.140 for helping us out

00:56:45.400 on this event

00:56:45.920 I'm going to thank again

00:56:52.780 because like I said

00:56:53.760 this was put together

00:56:54.620 in two and a half

00:56:55.340 three weeks

00:56:55.940 by our event staff team

00:56:57.860 and the marketing team

00:56:59.340 and everyone else

00:57:00.340 the creator teams

00:57:01.080 everybody that's here

00:57:01.840 so thanks to the Rumble staff

00:57:03.540 and the Rebel News staff

00:57:04.460 for putting it together

00:57:05.360 and the biggest thanks

00:57:11.960 goes to all the speakers

00:57:13.240 coming from all over the world

00:57:15.700 literally

00:57:16.160 you

00:57:38.040 you

00:57:38.680 you

00:57:39.040 you

00:57:39.160 you

00:57:39.700 you

00:57:40.140 you

Rebel News Podcast - May 10, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rumble LIVE： Free speech leaders join forces to condemn censorship

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