Rebel News Podcast - July 29, 2021


EZRA LEVANT | Ten Things Wrong With Vaccine Passports


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49 minutes

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166.36319

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8,162

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588

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

Today I give you 10 reasons why I think vaccine passports are a bad idea, probably an illegal idea, and I think they put government in sort of ownership of us. Before I do, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus, the video version of this podcast, which keeps us strong.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today I give you 10 or actually I think it's 11 reasons why I think vaccine
00:00:04.940 passports are a bad idea, probably an illegal idea. I think they violate our privacy and I
00:00:12.860 think they put government in a sort of ownership of us. I'll take you through those 11 points ahead.
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00:00:56.840 podcast. Tonight, 10 things wrong with vaccine passports. It's July 28th and this is the Ezra
00:01:03.320 Levant Show.
00:01:06.160 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:09.920 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to the
00:01:15.500 government, but why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:24.720 I've been thinking a lot about vaccine passports. I think that's the next front line and it's the
00:01:29.860 most serious one. It's the most permanent one. It's the one that all the other measures have been
00:01:34.680 softening us up for. They got us to wear masks. They got us to endure lockdowns, to agree who we could
00:01:41.420 or couldn't talk to, meet, even our own family members. I think that was softening us up for the
00:01:47.060 digital lockdown, which is really what a vaccine passport is. I've come up with 10 ideas. I mean,
00:01:53.540 I'm sure I should read smarter legal minds to myself, but just stopping and thinking, what's
00:01:59.320 wrong with this idea? Why am I against it? I came up with 10 ideas on my own. I'll share other ideas
00:02:05.780 as I encounter them. But let me give you my own homemade list of 10 problems with vaccine
00:02:12.120 passports. And the first one I think is the most important, which is vaccine passports have never
00:02:18.720 been used before, never in history for a public health crisis, not even for AIDS, which has killed
00:02:24.780 so many millions, not even for Ebola, which is so much more viral and deadly. And I put it to you that
00:02:31.320 the burden of proof that it works has to be on the proponent. It's not that ordinary citizens have
00:02:38.840 to prove that it doesn't work. If you're talking about the largest civil liberties infringement in
00:02:45.580 the history of the world, you've got to prove it does something. We don't have to prove that it doesn't.
00:02:51.740 Like lockdowns, another novel public health invention. There were no lockdowns before.
00:02:57.800 There were no lockdowns 100 years ago in the Spanish flu. There were no lockdowns in Canadian
00:03:05.080 history. There was no proof that it worked as a public health measure. And yet they were accepted
00:03:11.320 without proof. And we have to prove they don't work now. I want to let you know that right now we do
00:03:17.300 have vaccines in society. And I should tell you, I have some vaccines. My kids do too. I'm not an
00:03:22.980 anti-vaxxer. I just am worried about taking an experimental vaccine that has not yet been approved
00:03:29.320 by regulators that has rushed to market with a bullying political vanguard for a disease that
00:03:36.980 we're learning more and more about, namely that it targets people in their 80s who are grossly ill
00:03:43.380 with other matters. It doesn't target young people. By the way, for vaccines right now,
00:03:49.240 we do offer exemptions. That's not well known because it's not well advertised. But for example,
00:03:54.560 I went on the Ontario government's website and I found that you can exempt yourself for religious
00:04:01.860 or other reasons, reasons of conscience from other vaccines and still send your kids to school.
00:04:07.780 You have to sit through a propaganda video, but they will let you exempt yourself from existing
00:04:13.380 tried, tested and true vaccines. So the idea that vaccines are now a mandatory requirement to live
00:04:20.740 is novel. I think it'll set about a health apartheid. That's the Afrikaans word for apartness,
00:04:29.860 a health fascism, where we treat the sick or not even the sick, those who refuse to take an experimental
00:04:36.500 drug as some sort of underclass that can be outlawed and abused. I think they practiced on the masks
00:04:44.600 and they want to do it with injections. My second reason is that the companies themselves say that
00:04:52.400 vaccines are risky. This isn't me saying that. This isn't politicians. For example, Pfizer. I'm going
00:04:59.300 to play for you a clip from my noontime show today where I read through some of Pfizer's official
00:05:05.160 information sheet about the vaccine. And I play this and I play this for you in contrast to this
00:05:13.420 video from John Tory, the mayor of Toronto the other day, saying that vaccines are completely safe
00:05:19.540 and effective. Here's John Tory saying that. If you've received your first or second dose of vaccine,
00:05:25.560 keep scrolling. But if you haven't received your vaccine, your first or your second dose,
00:05:30.560 what are you waiting for? It's proven to be safe and effective and will help put this pandemic
00:05:36.560 behind us. And I promise if you go and get your first and your second vaccine, I'll stop doing
00:05:43.400 TikToks on COVID-19. But that's not what the drug companies say, probably for reasons of liability,
00:05:50.400 but probably for reasons of just telling the truth. They say that these are unproven. Mixing and
00:05:57.140 matching vaccines is unproven. We don't know what happens on pregnant moms and breastfeeding moms
00:06:04.020 because it hasn't been studied yet. Here, watch a minute from what Pfizer has to say. This is from
00:06:08.900 my noontime show. Yeah. Can you pump that up a bit? So this is, as you can see, it's on the Pfizer
00:06:13.700 website. I'll read in the bold. The Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has not, do you see the word
00:06:24.120 not there being approved or licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, but has been authorized
00:06:30.820 for emergency use by the FDA under an emergency use authorization, EUA, to prevent coronavirus in
00:06:38.540 individuals 12 years and older. The emergency use of this product is only authorized for the duration
00:06:47.060 of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use.
00:06:53.540 So scroll down a bit.
00:06:57.140 Okay, maybe click the fact sheet. Like I said, click on the fact sheet here. You see that?
00:07:05.140 Okay, can you pump that up? Thank you very much. And can you go down to,
00:07:08.760 may not be for everyone. Oh, I thought it, I thought I was told it was, may not protect everyone.
00:07:20.280 Two dose series, three weeks apart. Oh, because Canada said it's mix and match. This is a, this is a
00:07:27.460 Pfizer document. What is the vaccine? It's an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19. There is no FDA
00:07:38.380 approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19. Oh, and look at the date on that. June 25, 2021. Because John
00:07:47.280 Torrey, that great scholar and trustworthy sage, said it's perfectly safe and effective. The FDA has
00:07:53.560 authorized it under emergency use. We talked about that. What should you mention to your
00:07:58.740 vaccination provider before you get the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19? Tell the vaccination
00:08:03.720 provider about all of your medical conditions, including if you have any allergies, have had
00:08:09.940 myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, or periocarditis, inflammation of the lining outside
00:08:16.440 the heart, have a fever, bleeding, on a blood thinner, immunocompromised, on a medicine that affects your
00:08:22.680 immune system, are pregnant or plan to become pregnant, are breastfeeding, have received
00:08:28.120 another COVID-19 vaccine, have ever fainted. Do you think that they're asking all these questions
00:08:36.500 in Canada? I actually don't think they are.
00:08:43.200 Who should get the Pfizer vaccine? Well, FDA has authorized the use of it for people 12 years
00:08:49.560 and older who should not get the Pfizer vaccine. Oh, I thought everyone should. That's what
00:08:54.180 John Torrey said, and he's really smart. If you've had a severe allergic reaction after
00:09:00.080 a previous dose of the vaccine, if you had a severe allergic reaction to any ingredient
00:09:04.240 of the vaccine, do you think anyone in, let's see, these free clinics in Toronto where they
00:09:09.400 give ice cream out if you take the vaccine, do you think they even ask that question? What
00:09:15.180 are the ingredients, by the way? And then a bunch of ingredients there. How is a vaccine
00:09:23.600 given? Injection into the muscle? Two doses, three weeks apart. That's weird. In Canada,
00:09:30.720 they do it differently. I'm sure that science is different in Canada. If you receive one dose
00:09:38.740 of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, you should receive a second dose of the same vaccine three weeks
00:09:42.720 later to complete the vaccination series. Has this vaccine ever been used before? It's
00:09:49.440 an unapproved vaccine in clinical trials. Approximately 23,000 individuals 12 years of age
00:09:55.740 of older have received at least one dose. So that's another way of saying, no, it hasn't
00:09:59.680 been used before. We're just testing it. What are the benefits? Well, prevent COVID falling
00:10:07.860 two's notes. The duration of protection is currently unknown. Thanks for being honest,
00:10:13.300 more honest than politicians. I think they have to be honest because they'll be sued into oblivion if
00:10:18.020 they lie. So we are being asked to have a passport for a risky experimental drug that has not been tested
00:10:26.560 yet. What are we doing? My third reason is that the passports themselves violate your privacy. You have
00:10:34.700 to tell the passport issuer and you have to show your passport, your private medical history.
00:10:43.900 Catherine Krasinowski, one of our young reporters, went out and about the streets of Toronto and asked
00:10:48.460 people, would you have an unvaxxed person over for dinner? And a shocking number of people said,
00:10:54.460 no, they wouldn't even be my friend. Here's a quick clip of that.
00:10:57.260 If I would invite someone to my home and they're not vaccinated, I think I would. You know why I
00:11:03.740 would? Because I know I am healthy and I know I can't get the virus or even pass it on. And if I
00:11:09.580 do get any kind of virus again like before, I beat it naturally. Like if I trust them, it's like your
00:11:15.340 homie. If I trust them and I know where they've been and where they're going, then like I feel more
00:11:20.860 safe and more comfortable. Because I have my first dose already. But I feel like there is that kind
00:11:26.140 of sense of like security that I think I would never invite anyone. But if I'm double vaccinated, I
00:11:31.420 feel like I would feel safe. Imagine saying you wouldn't even have a friend anymore if they weren't
00:11:39.500 vaccinated. Well, hang on. So you're testing them for COVID-19, which for anyone under 70 has a tiny
00:11:49.580 rate of death. But you're not. Are you also going to quiz your friends about other communicable diseases,
00:11:56.140 especially if you're in your 20s and 30s? Are you going to grill your friends about sexually
00:12:00.860 transmitted diseases? Do they have vaccines for herpes? Are they on an AIDS medication? Could you imagine
00:12:09.020 grilling your friends about the most intimate details of their private life and making them
00:12:14.460 carry some sort of passport? What a gross thing. So the issuing in the process of the passport is
00:12:22.300 gross. But my fourth reason is that the use of them will be abusive too. For example, I showed you the
00:12:28.220 other day the airport lines of shame where you're forced to stand. It's not just the vaccine passport on
00:12:35.900 your phone. You now have to stand in a line for an hour and have people look at you. Schools will
00:12:43.420 segregate you. Maybe apartment buildings or dorms will segregate you. Maybe offices will. Here's Bonnie
00:12:50.140 Henry talking about what she's going to do to unvaccinated people. I have very little patience for
00:12:56.300 people who aren't immunized in health care. And that will be we've had a vaccinate or mass policy for
00:13:02.700 influenza. We will have a very similar policy that if people choose not to be immunized and you work
00:13:09.820 in health care, then you will not be able to work in certain settings without taking additional
00:13:14.140 measures. There will be consequences for that. We don't even know other ways that this vaccine
00:13:19.340 passport will be used to divide us. Here's a video of Ontario's chief health bully. He had heard that
00:13:25.340 Doug Ford wanted to open up the schools and he thought, I'll fix that. Take a listen to his novel
00:13:30.700 punishment for children. Children who have an almost zero risk of dying from this virus. Listen to what
00:13:39.100 he wants to do to them. 20-day suspensions of children who even come near the virus if they're
00:13:46.220 not vaxxed. Look at this bully. Will there be a separate set of rules for vaccinated students versus
00:13:51.180 unvaccinated students in the school system? Yeah, very good question. So we're working on the outbreak
00:13:55.740 management for school settings in particular. And there will be a different approach to those that
00:14:02.780 are vaccinated. If you are two dose vaccinated plus 14 days, we'll offer you a test if you've been a
00:14:09.020 contact of a high risk person. So someone that's had ongoing fever and cough or increasing shortness
00:14:14.460 of breath. If you test negative, you can go right back to school. You can go right back to work. So
00:14:19.180 terrific advantage of being two dose immunized by being able to stay in school and attend sports and
00:14:28.300 participate fully in all the social activities of the school setting. If you are not immunized and
00:14:35.340 you've been in contact with a high risk contact, you'll be off for a minimum of 10 days. You'll have to
00:14:42.300 get two tests, one initially and then another around day seven. If that test at day seven is positive,
00:14:49.420 you're off for another 10 days. And you can you can see that that is a potential for up to 20 days
00:14:55.820 from school directly because you weren't immunized and because you were infectious to others and putting
00:15:01.740 others at risk. So there is an advantage just alone not to being present in school, full participation in
00:15:09.340 all sports and activities by being immunized. And I hope parents and students see that advantage.
00:15:15.660 That's outrageous. Imagine the things they'll do with this. Here's my fifth reason. It's just the
00:15:19.900 simplest. It's logic. If you're vaccinated, why do you care if I am? I mean, if the vaccine works,
00:15:29.420 right? If you're vaxxed, doesn't it protect you? What do you care what I do with my own choices?
00:15:35.820 The sixth reason is that obviously this is government power over us. I mean, if you want to
00:15:43.500 carry around your vaccine passport and boast about it, like vegans can't stop talking about being
00:15:50.060 vegan or if you're on a gluten free diet, everyone within earshot of you will know that by the end of
00:15:56.380 the day. OK, you want to have some sort of tell the world about yourself, sharing too much information.
00:16:02.540 All right. I can't stop you. But this isn't some voluntary disclosure on your part.
00:16:08.780 This is government power over us, corporate power over us. This isn't voluntary.
00:16:14.620 I want to show you an example of this. This is a video from the United Kingdom.
00:16:19.020 Nurses telling a mom who's about to give birth that they're going to check the newborn baby for
00:16:24.700 COVID, jamming a rod up its nose. And they're having a little debate about whose property the
00:16:30.620 baby will be. Take a listen to this.
00:16:32.300 What happens? Right or wrong? Because it is my property.
00:16:35.580 So you will, while the baby's in your abdomen.
00:16:39.340 So you're saying that once the baby comes out, it's not my property no more?
00:16:42.460 Yes, it is. I gave birth to it. It's got my blood running through its baby.
00:16:45.100 OK, Stacey, I'm just trying to explain to you what you're doing.
00:16:47.260 Well, you're not helping me. You see what you're doing?
00:16:49.660 Right, now you're stressing.
00:16:51.340 I'm going to stop you now because I don't want to hear no more of it.
00:16:56.700 OK, well, that's just my duty.
00:16:58.620 Yes, and you don't want to do anything.
00:17:00.060 Because you told me about five bloody times and I'm sick of hearing it.
00:17:03.580 I don't need the stress. Once again, I'll look, you're stressing me out.
00:17:06.620 I haven't leaked all day. Now I'm leaking.
00:17:09.180 Do you really think I need this COVID and I've got a risk of losing my baby or possibly something?
00:17:15.260 Exactly. You're more worried about the COVID than the baby.
00:17:17.820 No, that is COVID.
00:17:19.020 Do you know what, Stacey? Let's get our stuff and get out of here now.
00:17:22.140 Because this will piss me off.
00:17:23.260 Thank you.
00:17:24.140 It's too big to worry, man.
00:17:25.660 I want everybody to worry.
00:17:26.780 What are you doing?
00:17:27.740 Are we signing on our cell phone now, Stacey?
00:17:29.420 Because they're not COVID testing my baby.
00:17:31.100 End of.
00:17:31.500 For not just you.
00:17:32.860 So they said they're going to get security if we don't apply now.
00:17:37.740 This is wicked. Do you know, this is going viral, yeah?
00:17:39.980 This is disgusting.
00:17:40.780 I was sitting outside all day long, sir.
00:17:42.460 I am not in your company because I know how you all feel.
00:17:45.820 That's terrifying and that's outrageous.
00:17:48.860 My seventh objection is that the collateral uses of the information in this vaccine passport,
00:17:55.420 we don't even know the way this will be game.
00:17:57.500 Think of the commercial uses.
00:17:59.340 Think of what happens if insurance companies will start making decisions or deciding to insure you or not.
00:18:06.060 Again, this is for an experimental medicine, including new gene therapy.
00:18:11.740 That's how these mRNA vaccines are described.
00:18:15.980 We don't know all the facts yet for refusing to be part of the experiment.
00:18:20.060 That's what the drug companies call it.
00:18:22.300 You'll have other ways this information will be used against you, of course.
00:18:27.260 The eighth reason I'd like to point to is the security and the spying and the hacking and the malware problems.
00:18:35.500 So where will this information be stored?
00:18:38.940 Obviously on some computer system.
00:18:41.660 Do you doubt that it'll be done a sloppy job?
00:18:44.860 We see stories out of Quebec, for example, that their QR code, that's a little scannable code on your cell phone,
00:18:50.780 reveals information that's not encrypted to anyone can see it.
00:18:54.620 Do you really think that the morons running, you know, I mean, Patty Hajdu and Justin Trudeau, who are making it up as they go,
00:19:01.580 do you really think they'll have your private health information secure from either Chinese spies or corporate spies or just some hackers for hire?
00:19:12.540 My ninth point is that of a larger social credit system.
00:19:17.660 And by that, I mean what they're doing in China.
00:19:20.620 I want to show you a clip, I showed it the other day, of how China's making your passport on your phone your everything passport.
00:19:29.660 It's not just your health passport, your vax passport, it's your life passport.
00:19:34.640 I put it to you that a vaccine passport is just the first building block for a total Chinese social credit system.
00:19:41.140 Remember this video?
00:19:41.740 Dear passengers, people who travel without tickets or behave this orderly assaulting public areas will be punished according to regulations,
00:19:53.720 and the behavior will be recorded in the individual credit information system.
00:19:58.800 To avoid an inactive record of person operated,
00:20:02.060 please follow the relevant regulations and help with the orders on the train and at the station.
00:20:09.000 My tenth reason is simply discrimination, including against social class and race and religion and any conscientious objectors.
00:20:21.920 It's a fact that different classes in society, different kinds of people choose to get vaccinated and others don't.
00:20:28.680 You know, we talked before about the Tuskegee Airmen, not the Tuskegee Airmen, sorry, the Tuskegee Experiment,
00:20:34.520 where black Americans were tricked by the government to be part of an experiment where they were positively injected with syphilis and studied over decades.
00:20:44.600 They were lied to and told that they would be given free health care by the government.
00:20:49.500 In fact, they were part of an unethical experiment.
00:20:52.180 We know from Montreal, over a hundred years ago, a bad batch of vaccines caused many people to get sick from smallpox.
00:21:01.460 There are people who, for reasons of history or reasons of trust or reasons of religion, say,
00:21:07.560 no, I don't want to be injected by you, sir.
00:21:11.060 Well, those people will now be the underclass.
00:21:12.960 I feel it already with masks.
00:21:14.140 If you're in part of the country where you can go into a restaurant without masks, but the servant class has to wear masks,
00:21:22.160 get ready for that with vaccines.
00:21:25.160 I see reports of people in woke stores like Whole Foods, where if you're double vaxxed, you don't have to have a mask.
00:21:33.300 So in the store, the workers with masks happen to be the black workers.
00:21:38.460 Don't think you won't see fault lines like that.
00:21:40.580 And I guess my last point, I'll call this point 11, is that the vaccine passport ignores natural immunity,
00:21:48.460 which you get if you have the disease normally.
00:21:51.080 And what exactly will be on the vaccine passport?
00:21:54.500 The devil in the details.
00:21:55.520 Is it one shot?
00:21:57.200 Is it two?
00:21:57.900 Is it the annual endless boosters they're talking about?
00:22:02.320 We don't know.
00:22:03.160 But once that platform's in place, do you really think it's going to be temporary?
00:22:07.440 It'll be about as temporary as the income tax.
00:22:10.480 I know I look at this vaccine passport and how quickly we went from two weeks to flatten the curve
00:22:15.080 to you have to give us all your private information and be injected with an experimental drug
00:22:20.680 or you can't go back to your life.
00:22:22.340 That happened pretty quickly, didn't it?
00:22:24.600 There was never a vote on it.
00:22:26.040 There was never an election on it.
00:22:27.840 There was never a debate in parliament on it.
00:22:29.560 It's just happening.
00:22:31.300 And I think about it and I think about those new nine pharma billionaire bros.
00:22:37.980 And I think, since when did the left and the media love big pharma?
00:22:43.260 I think vaccine passports are a very dangerous thing.
00:22:47.260 I think that the vaccines themselves may or may not be dangerous,
00:22:50.900 but forcing it on us, which is what these passports do, is the dangerous part.
00:22:55.100 I want to tell you that we are looking for a case to fight vaccine passports.
00:23:02.500 What I mean by that is we do civil liberties litigation, as you know.
00:23:07.480 We're looking for a strong client.
00:23:09.880 By that, I mean someone who's not just cranky,
00:23:11.960 but has a religious or medical exemption from taking the vaccine,
00:23:17.020 but is being forced to do so.
00:23:19.100 So I want a strong, sympathetic client and I want an odious offender,
00:23:24.580 preferably a government agency.
00:23:25.940 What I mean by that is someone who has harsh rules with no exceptions
00:23:30.520 that's really being a bully about it.
00:23:33.660 We want the strongest fact pattern possible to take to court
00:23:37.780 because we don't want to lose.
00:23:39.260 Well, you might not know it, but President Joseph Biden
00:23:50.780 says that the riot, the insurrection on Capitol Hill in January
00:23:56.580 was the worst crisis in America since the Civil War.
00:24:01.000 I was unaware of that.
00:24:02.300 I would have put the First and Second World Wars.
00:24:05.060 I would have put 9-11 in there, but not the president.
00:24:08.500 And so the Democrats are holding an inquiry into the matter.
00:24:13.700 And wouldn't you know it, a never-Trumper Republican
00:24:16.480 named Adam Kinzinger was there to lend his emotional assistance.
00:24:21.820 What a rollercoaster day it was for him yesterday,
00:24:24.060 going from laughing to crying in the course of a minute.
00:24:28.000 Take a listen to him.
00:24:29.240 Longy fuses.
00:24:31.220 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:24:32.560 And thank you to my colleagues on the committee.
00:24:35.440 Thank you to our witnesses.
00:24:36.660 I never expected a day to be quite as emotional for me as it has been.
00:24:42.840 I've talked to a number of you and gotten to know you.
00:24:47.140 I think it's important to tell you right now, though,
00:24:50.220 you guys may, like, individually feel a little broken.
00:24:54.100 You guys all talk about the effects you have to deal with.
00:24:58.020 And, you know, you talk about the impact of that day.
00:25:02.620 But you guys won.
00:25:05.860 You guys held.
00:25:09.160 Wow, he's a very emotional man.
00:25:11.100 I'm not sure why he's crying, but he was crying.
00:25:14.380 He's a famous never-Trumper who I think is ingratiating himself with the Democrats.
00:25:18.600 He said that there were deaths that day.
00:25:21.540 There was a death.
00:25:23.140 A death, a protester named Ashley Babbitt,
00:25:25.660 was shot at point-blank range by a police officer.
00:25:29.060 We don't yet know the identity of the police officer,
00:25:31.560 and the government has not released footage of it.
00:25:34.680 At the time, we were told that another police officer was killed by rioters.
00:25:40.520 His name was Officer Brian Sicknick.
00:25:43.440 That certainly was the media narrative,
00:25:45.280 but the coroner's office released an official report
00:25:48.700 that he, in fact, did not die at the event.
00:25:53.160 He later died of natural causes.
00:25:55.840 Very strange, but it was quite an emotional show.
00:25:59.020 Here's a Democrat activist named Harry Dunn,
00:26:01.960 famous on Twitter for denouncing Trump and supporting rioters on the left,
00:26:07.300 breaking down in tears for what happened on January 6th.
00:26:11.160 Take a look at him.
00:26:14.920 I decided to stand my ground there to prevent any rioters
00:26:18.460 from heading down the stairs to the Lower West Terrace entrance
00:26:21.660 because that's where officers were getting decontamination aid
00:26:25.040 and were particularly vulnerable.
00:26:28.360 At the top of the stairs, I confronted a group of insurrectionists
00:26:31.320 warning them, do not go down those steps.
00:26:34.060 One of them shouted, keep moving, patriots.
00:26:38.420 Another displayed what looked like a law enforcement badge
00:26:41.340 and told me, we're doing this for you.
00:26:46.420 One of the invaders approached me like he was going to try to get past me
00:26:49.580 and head down the stairs.
00:26:51.740 I hit him, knocking him down.
00:26:53.540 After getting relieved by other officers in the crypt,
00:26:59.360 I took off running upstairs towards the speaker's lobby
00:27:02.500 and helped a plainclothes officer who was getting hassled by insurrectionists.
00:27:07.920 Some of them were dressed like members of...
00:27:09.600 He's an emotional man, and you know it because of his tweets supporting the riots.
00:27:14.020 Well, what exactly happened on that day?
00:27:16.500 Was it a riot, or was it more of a meandering by protesters who broke into a building
00:27:23.080 and didn't know much what to do?
00:27:25.560 Were police on guard, or did they stand down to make the event a media shock and awe?
00:27:30.820 I'm not quite sure.
00:27:32.100 I'm not sure if this inquiry will let us know,
00:27:34.900 but instead of giving you my speculation,
00:27:36.960 let's go to a man who's been following you very closely,
00:27:39.360 our friend Ben Weingarten, who is a senior contributor with The Federalist.
00:27:43.300 Great to see you again, Ben.
00:27:44.440 It was nice to have you on our show on election night.
00:27:48.540 I don't like any violence against property.
00:27:51.520 I don't like smashing windows.
00:27:52.880 I don't like trespass.
00:27:55.220 Do you think what happened on January 6th rises to the level of a riot?
00:28:00.560 I'm not sure what to call it, because with the fullness of time,
00:28:05.020 the only person who was killed was a protester.
00:28:07.420 The place wasn't ransacked, and for some reason,
00:28:10.600 the government won't release thousands of hours of closed-circuit TV footage.
00:28:15.000 I'm not sure exactly what went on, and I don't know if we'll find out.
00:28:19.020 Yeah, well, don't take my word for it,
00:28:21.580 but the administration itself, via FBI director Christopher Wray,
00:28:26.080 hasn't just classified what transpired as a riot.
00:28:29.120 Christopher Wray testified that it constituted an act of domestic terrorism.
00:28:33.600 That puts it on a different plane, even, from a riot.
00:28:37.880 And, of course, the broader narrative is that it was a murderous armed insurrection,
00:28:42.540 and the republic hung in the balance.
00:28:45.300 And that is belied by everything that we know.
00:28:48.320 The murderous part by the fact that, as you noted,
00:28:50.540 the sole person to die in violence that day was Ashley Babbitt,
00:28:54.440 who was shot by a Capitol cop.
00:28:56.400 The notion that it was armed.
00:28:58.480 Well, there is evidence that people had all manner of instruments
00:29:01.260 that could have been used to injure people,
00:29:03.820 and it does appear, based upon footage and testimony and court documents,
00:29:08.020 that there were protesters who engaged in deplorable acts,
00:29:11.340 bludgeoning people with poles and posts,
00:29:14.460 destroying property, as you noted, crushing people into doorways, etc.
00:29:18.560 Behavior that everyone condemns and has condemned
00:29:21.800 from the moment all of this transpired.
00:29:24.900 But no one, in charges at least,
00:29:28.080 has been charged with having a firearm while in the Capitol.
00:29:31.600 Again, the FBI director says he can think of at least one person who did,
00:29:34.520 but we haven't seen evidence of it.
00:29:36.440 As you noted, thousands of hours of tape have not been released,
00:29:39.320 so we have no way to really assess the claims.
00:29:41.880 All we have to go on is the fact that there were substantial injuries incurred.
00:29:46.400 The numbers that have been reported by authorities,
00:29:49.340 around 140 people sustained injuries among cops.
00:29:53.360 And again, deplored, this was condemned from the start.
00:29:58.100 But the notion that this was a riot or an act of domestic terrorism,
00:30:02.220 the act of domestic terrorism shows you the hysteria
00:30:05.340 that's being ginned up around this event.
00:30:08.540 And what I argued about a week after,
00:30:11.300 in an article at The Federalist,
00:30:12.920 was that what occurred was deplorable,
00:30:16.780 it was disgraceful, it should never happen.
00:30:18.480 And by the way, it overshadowed legitimate questions
00:30:21.480 about the integrity of the 2020 election
00:30:23.260 and was being used at the time to smear tens of millions of Americans
00:30:27.240 based on the actions of a fraction of a fraction
00:30:29.420 of a massive crowd that was overwhelmingly peaceful
00:30:32.580 in Washington, D.C. that day.
00:30:35.220 And as you know,
00:30:36.360 there are people who were let into the Capitol, seemingly.
00:30:38.620 There are other people forced away.
00:30:39.720 And again, we can't really assess any of these claims
00:30:41.600 because we haven't seen all the evidence of what transpired.
00:30:44.360 But the reaction to January 6th,
00:30:47.400 which is being leveraged as one point
00:30:49.620 to make the claim that up to tens of millions of Americans
00:30:53.640 constitute domestic violent extremists
00:30:56.080 for holding views that run afoul
00:30:58.820 of the kind of ruling class party line
00:31:01.680 about elections or a whole host of other topics
00:31:05.540 indicates that that poses a far graver danger to the republic
00:31:09.320 than anything that transpired that day,
00:31:11.300 even if we take it at its worst possible reading.
00:31:13.500 Yeah. I saw yesterday a tweet from a New York Times reporter
00:31:17.140 basically giving the game away.
00:31:19.260 This was about rebranding an entire political base as terrorist.
00:31:25.620 If you question the 2020 election,
00:31:28.440 if you are upset by the authorities,
00:31:31.140 if you have sympathy for Trump,
00:31:32.980 you are a domestic violent extremist.
00:31:35.440 That's a new phrase that New York Times tweet was deleted,
00:31:38.580 but not before it was seen.
00:31:39.960 I want to show you a clip from,
00:31:43.480 like I say, thousands of hours of videotape not released.
00:31:47.340 But here's some footage that was released.
00:31:50.240 I mean, there were some goofy guys,
00:31:52.140 like a Viking in like a moose outfit or something.
00:31:56.020 Viking Chewbacca, I think he was nicknamed.
00:31:58.860 He was, you know, quite a sight.
00:32:01.400 But what's so curious about these video clips I'm about to show
00:32:06.500 is that the police were there.
00:32:10.000 They didn't seem particularly fussed.
00:32:12.340 There weren't sackings or lootings.
00:32:14.620 The cops seemed sort of cool with things.
00:32:16.800 They don't quite understand how this fits in with the riot.
00:32:18.800 Take a look at this.
00:32:19.620 Hey, fucking A, man.
00:32:24.300 Glad to see you guys.
00:32:25.600 You guys are fucking patriots.
00:32:26.760 Look at this guy.
00:32:27.300 He's got covered in blood.
00:32:28.360 God bless you.
00:32:29.960 Yes.
00:32:31.340 You're good, sir.
00:32:32.100 Do you need medical attention?
00:32:33.200 I'm good.
00:32:33.700 Thank you.
00:32:34.140 You all right?
00:32:36.720 I got shot in the face.
00:32:38.180 I got shot in the face with some kind of plastic bullet.
00:32:42.620 Any chance I could get you guys to leave the Senate wing?
00:32:45.660 We will.
00:32:46.320 I've been making sure they ain't disrespecting the place.
00:32:48.340 Okay, just want to let you guys know.
00:32:49.880 This is like the sacredest place.
00:32:51.780 I'm out.
00:32:52.200 No, hey, no.
00:32:52.900 I'm going to take a seat.
00:32:53.800 I'm going to take a seat.
00:32:55.020 I'm going to share.
00:32:56.160 Because my pants is a fucking treat.
00:33:00.180 I'm not one to usually take pictures of myself.
00:33:02.300 But in this case, I think I'm making an exception.
00:33:04.240 Hey, you in the way.
00:33:06.160 Can you take a picture with me?
00:33:07.500 I'm throwing my phone.
00:33:08.240 Here.
00:33:08.680 I'm going to look.
00:33:10.940 Yeah.
00:33:13.580 Literally.
00:33:14.400 Thank you.
00:33:15.040 Yeah, I ain't got a choice.
00:33:16.240 I have a lady in people here.
00:33:17.480 You want to skate on?
00:33:18.820 You should be stopping us.
00:33:20.460 No, no, no.
00:33:21.020 He's doing the right thing.
00:33:24.020 He's obeying his oath.
00:33:26.180 Ben, I'm not justifying.
00:33:28.200 I believe in the laws of trespass.
00:33:30.600 I don't believe in mischief or vandalism or break and enter.
00:33:33.820 And I think those things happened.
00:33:35.560 As you said, there were instances of police seeming to let people in.
00:33:39.000 Let me show you other violence at the White House over the past few years.
00:33:44.760 I think this actually counts as a riot.
00:33:48.500 Take a look.
00:33:49.040 Not until 10 p.m. that things started to devolve into chaos.
00:33:54.340 And that is when the Antifa protesters showed up.
00:33:57.920 And they began setting fires.
00:34:00.240 They began burning buildings.
00:34:02.340 They began defacing war memorials.
00:34:04.540 I'm actually just outside of one right now that's being taken care of by the police.
00:34:08.300 It's not the first time that people sort of broke in and had a noisy kerfuffle.
00:34:12.500 I mean, the appointment of various Trump Supreme Court justices and their nomination hearings,
00:34:18.260 they were quite rowdy.
00:34:19.700 Take a look at this.
00:34:20.880 These are live images, folks, at the doors of the Supreme Court where you can see protesters have gathered.
00:34:36.680 They are demanding that their voices be heard as they anticipate the person who will be a new Supreme Court justice,
00:34:47.820 Judge Brett Kavanaugh, to be sworn in here any moment.
00:34:50.760 In a bigger picture, you can see approximately how many people who have gathered there.
00:34:54.520 It looks like there are dozens.
00:34:55.700 And they are chanting, Kavanaugh has got to go, is what I'm hearing them say.
00:35:00.960 You see, there is high security there.
00:35:03.040 I'm not sure if I would call that a riot.
00:35:06.380 I certainly wouldn't call it an insurrection.
00:35:08.440 I don't think I would call it terrorism.
00:35:11.480 Look, Ben, I'm not excusing the lawbreaking that was done.
00:35:16.420 But I think to call it a terrorism act and to hold some of these meanderers in solitary confinement now for six months,
00:35:26.220 that seems like this whole thing is a bit of a stitch up.
00:35:29.460 I could be wrong.
00:35:30.540 Maybe they really are terrorists.
00:35:31.680 But it seems like the punishment does not fit the crime.
00:35:36.880 Well, they're certainly being treated as if they are terrorists.
00:35:40.440 In some cases, several dozen people being held in a specific jail in Washington, D.C.
00:35:45.740 And there's substantial reporting to suggest, well, there's allegations that guards are beating people.
00:35:50.880 Individuals are being held in solitary confinement for over 20 hours a day, many without bail.
00:35:57.220 Many of these people have no criminal records.
00:35:59.840 They're not hardened terrorists like those that would be held in Guantanamo Bay.
00:36:04.480 And from everything that's been reported, it seems like their conditions are significantly worse than the conditions at Gitmo.
00:36:09.580 And certainly the media treatment and kind of the elite treatment of these individuals pales in comparison to the way actual jihadists have been treated.
00:36:20.580 And to your point, the double standard appears to be staggering.
00:36:24.460 If you look at the damage that the government has assessed associated with January 6th, for example, they put it at about a million and a half dollars in damage.
00:36:32.140 The estimates are one to two billion dollars in damage during last summer's riots cumulatively in America.
00:36:38.500 There were hundreds of events where there was violence in America last summer.
00:36:43.120 Arson, obviously obstructing traffic, masses of assaults, murders.
00:36:48.840 They're incomparable in terms of the size, scope and nature of the events on their face when you look at the raw data.
00:36:55.660 And basically the argument has been made on the left that it's not a double standard.
00:36:59.460 You just can't compare these events because on the one hand, democracy hung in the balance.
00:37:03.480 And these people were contesting an election and threatening to throw the republic into chaos.
00:37:07.920 And I don't think that passes muster when you look at, to your point, first of all, the way that authorities responded that day.
00:37:14.600 And second of all, the nature of some of the characters that did breach the Capitol.
00:37:18.960 But this is being treated by the government as the ultimate terrorist attack on American life.
00:37:26.140 DOJ officials up to the attorney general have said that essentially this is their top priority and it's going to be the most complex and deep investigation, among the most complex and deep investigations in the history of the republic.
00:37:37.820 And it's clear that it is being elevated to the kind of thing that is going to lead to something like the global war on terror powers being turned on American citizens.
00:37:47.660 And the Biden administration, as I've covered at great length, has codified that in their first of its kind national strategy on countering domestic terror, which isn't targeting jihadists.
00:37:58.300 In fact, they're barely even mentioned in the entire document.
00:38:00.500 It's targeting so-called anti-government individuals, as well as would it cast as a racial supremacist, ethnic supremacist, violent extremists, of course.
00:38:10.800 And the examples they cite, they try to argue, are examples of right wing violent extremism.
00:38:15.440 But all of this goes to trying to potentially smear up to half the country.
00:38:20.700 And the document speaks in euphemism.
00:38:22.560 But where it's very clear is that it even goes to policing so-called misinformation and disinformation on social media platforms, which it argues create the conditions for terrorism.
00:38:32.380 And so the logic ends up pretty simple at the end of the day.
00:38:35.300 And it's personified, typified by what we're seeing with respect to January 6th.
00:38:40.620 It's conservatism equals bigotry.
00:38:42.920 Bigotry is the precursor to violence and domestic extremism.
00:38:46.740 Consequently, conservatives have to be pursued.
00:38:48.920 And obviously, the administration isn't framing it that way.
00:38:51.320 And they always include boilerplate language in their statements and documents about respecting differences of political opinions and that differences of political opinions don't constitute violence.
00:39:00.040 But it's very clear when they're going out and censoring people, working with big tech to try to censor people.
00:39:04.880 And as you noted, treating these people like they are hardened terrorists, how the government feels about those who hold views that don't comport with the establishment's agenda.
00:39:17.100 And it ought to be very chilling for the country.
00:39:19.420 And it's one of the reasons why I think, well, this is a show trial.
00:39:21.780 Clearly, what we're seeing with a select committee and it's aimed at smearing tens of millions of people.
00:39:26.420 And of course, it's aimed at the midterm elections as well.
00:39:29.160 And beyond the broader issue is that the narrative of a January 6th being a murderous armed insurrection has, in many respects, collapsed based on the information that we do have.
00:39:37.420 Yet, being built on that foundation is an entire, I would argue, war on wrong thing.
00:39:43.840 And I've argued that a great way and within a number of pieces.
00:39:46.260 Yeah.
00:39:46.600 You know, when you were talking about the Biden administration making this the largest and most complex investigation in their history, I was thinking of the Mandalay Bay shooter in Las Vegas, which actually was the largest mass shooting in American history.
00:40:02.260 Dozens killed, I think around a thousand injured.
00:40:05.660 You know, the FBI sort of sort of given up on that.
00:40:08.560 Who knows what it is?
00:40:09.600 Who knows why?
00:40:10.580 Let's stop talking about it.
00:40:13.700 The FBI, I think, has disgraced themselves during the Trump administration.
00:40:18.300 They've revealed themselves to be not only highly partisan, but even have engaged in some lawbreaking.
00:40:22.780 There have been some guilty pleas to that effect.
00:40:24.700 The way they misused the spying court to, well, heck, to this day, they're spying on Tucker Carlson.
00:40:32.340 I think that the deep state, the national security deep state has so discredited itself, but it doesn't care if it was in any jeopardy under Donald Trump.
00:40:42.440 Now it's got home free under Biden.
00:40:45.120 I am worried about it.
00:40:46.340 Again, I'm not diminishing the vandalism and the violence that there was, but I can't help but compare to New York City, where all of the violence from last summer's riots, it was just all dropped by the prosecutors.
00:41:03.300 Just nothing more.
00:41:05.200 That was billions of dollars, not just direct losses, but, you know, basically shutting down the city, certainly as much or more than the virus did.
00:41:15.800 Just, you know, in fact, the mayor's own daughter was arrested.
00:41:20.260 And just move on, just nothing to see.
00:41:22.960 I'm worried about it.
00:41:24.560 Last point on Gitmo.
00:41:25.700 I've seen how the Guantanamo Bay detainees are treated.
00:41:29.420 They're not actually treated like a prison.
00:41:30.920 They're just in a holding center.
00:41:33.980 They're allowed sports and video games and halal meals and specialty items.
00:41:41.120 And these grandmas and, you know, Viking Chewbacca, you know, types, I think they actually would be treated far worse than terrorists.
00:41:53.400 Help me out here.
00:41:54.640 Do you think it's credible to say that security was stood down deliberately to create a Reichstag fire type moment, an excuse like Hitler had when the Reichstag was burned?
00:42:11.200 Oh, this is proof that I must destroy the enemies of our state.
00:42:15.620 Do you think that there is any credence to the speculation that this is what the left wanted?
00:42:22.640 They're certainly capitalizing on it now.
00:42:25.160 Do you think that the police stood down so that this might happen?
00:42:28.360 I think we can certainly say that the left used this, as I've termed it, an accelerant to an effort that they already wanted to undertake and really a rolling perpetual effort, first to take out Trump, but really as a proxy for the tens of millions of Americans who agreed with his agenda.
00:42:47.680 And I think when you look at the way these defendants are being treated in the worst cases, it's clearly meant to send a message to others.
00:42:54.580 And the government even admits that and talks about the fact that their views make them a danger and consequently a flight risk and consequently they shouldn't be granted bail.
00:43:03.280 I have not seen evidence to suggest that this was planned, but there's clear evidence in the words of the officials involved in making the decisions that they didn't take the fortifications necessary, even though there was ample evidence to suggest that there might be something that occurred that day.
00:43:19.380 And it's unimaginable to me that if there was an assault on the Capitol by jihadist terrorists, that there wouldn't have been a massive rush to defend that building.
00:43:27.640 It's incomprehensible if you consider the size, scope, scale, firepower technology that we have in our federal government, that they wouldn't have adequately defended the Capitol of the United States.
00:43:39.420 And the people who rushed the Capitol in this case had weapons that were in often cases, you know, items around the home.
00:43:46.680 They didn't have incendiary devices. They didn't have Molotov cocktails like we saw in riots around the country.
00:43:52.360 There weren't fires that were being set everywhere.
00:43:54.500 So how do you explain that you're talking about some of the most sacred buildings in the land and with the billions of dollars that we spend on security, that this could have transpired?
00:44:04.300 It really strains crudulity. It's hard to explain.
00:44:07.280 Nancy Pelosi ought to be one person questioned about that.
00:44:10.360 And of course, she's refused to.
00:44:12.060 She's controlling a trial and will never get answers, in my view, on those types of questions from her, certainly.
00:44:18.180 Yeah. Well, Ben Weingarten, great to see you again.
00:44:20.520 And let me just say again, I do not believe in trespass or vandalism or mischief or any violence, whether it's light or heavy.
00:44:28.760 But you have to be blind not to see how this is weaponized and how they're trying to create an emotional narrative of terrorism.
00:44:37.500 I think that the disinformation is coming heavy from the other side, claiming that Officer Brian Sicknick was murdered when the coroner himself said that did not happen.
00:44:48.500 I'm worried that this narrative is already set in concrete by the mainstream media, no matter what the facts are on the ground.
00:44:55.360 And I fear you're correct.
00:44:56.460 This is all a pretext for going after wrong think amongst domestic conservatives.
00:45:03.360 These are dark days, and I think they're going to get darker.
00:45:05.400 It's great to have you writing where you do in Epoch Times, Newsweek, The Federalist.
00:45:09.680 Keep it up, Ben. Great to see you again.
00:45:11.900 Thanks so much for having me, Ezra. Really appreciate it.
00:45:13.560 It's our pleasure.
00:45:14.840 There you have it, Ben Weingarten.
00:45:16.020 Stay with us. More ahead.
00:45:17.460 Hey, welcome back on my show last night.
00:45:30.820 Fred writes, if that sign said whites and blacks, there would be an outrage and a discrimination lawsuit.
00:45:36.600 But when it comes to vaccinated and unvaccinated, it's somehow OK.
00:45:41.140 You're exactly right.
00:45:42.120 But I've got to tell you, as I said in my monologue, there are cultural, ethnic, religious, and even medical breakdowns.
00:45:48.740 If you're allergic, if you are, you know, I'm not sure what the Jehovah's Witness take is on this, but I know they're against blood transfusions.
00:45:56.240 You will have other things.
00:45:58.640 I mean, what if you have natural immunity?
00:46:00.980 Why should you be forced to take some risky experimental vaccine that has not finished being approved?
00:46:07.320 I think there's a lot of danger here.
00:46:08.600 Crispin writes, I predict human rights lawyers from now on will be very, very busy.
00:46:14.800 You're wrong.
00:46:16.080 You would have think that human rights lawyers would have been very, very busy the last year and a half, but they were very busy hiding under their desks.
00:46:22.940 Paul writes, expect pictures of Pastor Arthur Pawlowski to dominate the next Alberta election.
00:46:28.300 The UCP has proven itself to be unfit to lead or to continue existing in all.
00:46:32.180 Total disgrace.
00:46:33.900 You know, we're putting up another big video.
00:46:35.480 I had a 45-minute talk with Arthur Pawlowski's lawyers.
00:46:39.160 We're going to put that online.
00:46:40.160 I hope you find it interesting.
00:46:42.320 But again, I'm going to disagree with you.
00:46:43.540 I think you're too optimistic.
00:46:45.400 What party would have images of Arthur Pawlowski in the upcoming election?
00:46:50.280 The NDP?
00:46:51.340 I just don't see it happening.
00:46:53.360 Yeah, I think our political class has had a terrible year and a half, especially with civil liberties.
00:46:59.580 Let me leave you with something hopeful, though.
00:47:01.380 Well, here's a quick clip of Ron DeSantis talking about how he's not going to let Florida backslide on masks or lockdowns either.
00:47:08.000 I'd like to just talk about personal responsibility here.
00:47:10.220 Here, take a listen.
00:47:11.520 Well, look, Si, if anyone is calling for lockdowns, you're not getting that done in Florida.
00:47:16.060 I'm going to protect people's livelihoods.
00:47:18.060 I'm going to protect kids' right to go to school.
00:47:20.520 I'm going to protect people's right to run their small businesses.
00:47:24.300 We have a situation where we have three vaccines that have been widely available for months and months now.
00:47:30.180 And people need to make decisions what's best for them.
00:47:33.540 But to have the government come in and lock anyone down or restrict anybody is totally unacceptable.
00:47:40.120 And it's easy for some physician to advocate that because it doesn't affect them.
00:47:45.320 It does affect the people in this state.
00:47:47.700 So we're going to lift people up.
00:47:49.120 We're not locking people down.
00:47:50.800 And we're going to make sure that folks are able to exercise their decision-making, that what's best for them.
00:47:57.840 And I think millions of Floridians have obviously done that for the last year and a half.
00:48:01.900 And so we want to continue to support their effort.
00:48:03.700 I show you that not just because I'm jealous, but to say, look, he's so popular, he's so successful, both in terms of the polls and his policies.
00:48:11.800 Why can't some Canadian politicians say, hey, it's working for him.
00:48:15.460 I might try that up here.
00:48:17.640 Well, you can hope.
00:48:18.940 That's our show for today.
00:48:20.040 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, you at home, good night.
00:48:24.800 Keep fighting for freedom.
00:48:33.700 Keep fighting for freedom.