Rebel News Podcast - November 17, 2023


EZRA LEVANT | The cowards hiding behind the Internet are wrong on Hitler and Hamas


Episode Stats

Length

34 minutes

Words per Minute

154.39803

Word Count

5,287

Sentence Count

372

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

Who exactly are the people who are saying things like Hitler Was Right? on the internet? And why do they think Hitler was right? And why is it so important that they do it to their own faces?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I'm on the road, but I still managed to record a monologue about an interesting
00:00:06.840 back and forth on Twitter, including Elon Musk talking about racism, including anti-white
00:00:13.760 racism. What a controversial idea. I'll show you the video that sparked the conversation and the
00:00:19.500 back and forth. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's
00:00:23.820 the video version of this show. And I want you to get the video version because it all started with
00:00:29.000 a one minute TV ad. And I'd like you to see that. So go to rebelnewsplus.com. All right, here's today's
00:00:35.180 podcast. Tonight, who exactly are the people who are saying things like Hitler was right? It's
00:00:55.620 November 16th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:01.800 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:01:13.140 Oh, hi, everybody. I'm in Calgary. I'm wearing my Rebel gear. Don't mind me not wearing my jacket.
00:01:17.960 I'm having some fun outside. It's a little bit chilly in the snow, but that's Calgary for you.
00:01:23.240 Sunny and chilly. I'm standing outside the Gray Eagle Event Center. It's actually on an Indian reserve
00:01:30.080 abutting Calgary, and it's where Ben Shapiro is coming to give a talk tonight. And there's going to
00:01:36.040 be a lot of Canadians coming in from all across the province. In fact, even from other provinces to hear
00:01:42.540 Ben Shapiro, it's sort of exciting to have him come to Canada to give a speech because he's a bit of a
00:01:47.520 star in conservative circles in the United States. Tucker Carlson is coming in the new year. So all the
00:01:53.840 stars in the conservative firmament. And of course, conservative media like Rebel News will be here,
00:02:00.340 and I understand other independent media like True North and Western Standard will be here too. So it's
00:02:05.120 sort of fun, sort of a gathering. Of course, we have our own Rebel News Live event in this city
00:02:10.620 on Saturday. And there are still some tickets left, so be sure to sign up at rebelnewslive.com.
00:02:18.440 But I want to do a show today, even though I'm traveling and I'm not in the studio.
00:02:22.680 I saw a video yesterday that got some mixed reaction, and I watched it, and I've actually
00:02:28.400 got a lot to say about it. I saw it on Twitter, and it was introduced with the following preface.
00:02:35.740 To the cowards hiding behind the anonymity of the internet and posting, Hitler was right.
00:02:43.280 You got something you want to say? Why don't you say it to our faces? And that was written by a guy
00:02:48.840 named Charles Weber, who seems like a really nice guy. And obviously, he's against anti-Semitism and
00:02:54.500 against Nazism. So I was interested in what he had to say and the video he referred to. Let me play it for
00:03:01.460 you now. It's not very long. It's only about a minute and a half. Take a look at this video
00:03:05.080 that he was referring to.
00:03:16.300 I saw what you've been posting.
00:03:20.300 Hitler was right.
00:03:21.260 Hitler was right. I didn't teach you that. You hide behind your screen, spewing all this
00:03:30.200 hatred and ugliness. You got something you want to say? Get out of the truck and say it
00:03:37.640 to their faces.
00:03:38.260 Hitler was right. You stop it. You.
00:03:42.440 I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
00:04:12.440 I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
00:04:42.440 It was like a starter pistol for this eruption of violent anti-Semitism around the world.
00:04:49.580 And it really was in a shocking pogrom style.
00:04:52.480 I think one of the most terrifying things I've seen since October 7th was in the Russian province
00:04:58.240 of Dagestan, where people heard there was a Jew landing on a plane and they swarmed the
00:05:05.800 airport, broke on the tarmac and went Jew hunting.
00:05:10.240 Do you remember this video from Dagestan a few weeks ago?
00:05:13.440 Go on.
00:05:16.580 Go on.
00:05:18.680 There is nothing even our passengers without having planned.
00:05:25.880 You have been surprised!
00:05:34.740 Three people!
00:05:39.620 I am not a idle democracy!
00:05:44.120 First he comes from the ISIS.
00:05:45.860 First the Communist population.
00:05:47.940 Well, there's been huge mobs like that around the world.
00:06:07.080 Not quite as violent as that, but certainly their language has been menacing.
00:06:12.120 Hundreds of thousands have marched in London, England.
00:06:14.760 Tens of thousands have marched in Canada and in U.S. cities.
00:06:19.820 We sent our reporter, Alexa Lavoie, to London about a week ago.
00:06:23.560 And, I mean, here's one fellow that she put a microphone to.
00:06:27.280 And he's a brown-skinned Muslim man.
00:06:31.720 And Hitler didn't like non-Aryan races.
00:06:35.240 But apparently he thought Hitler was right.
00:06:37.280 Take a listen to this man. Praise Hitler.
00:06:39.860 If the West feels so sorry for the Israelis,
00:06:42.540 why don't they give a place in Germany?
00:06:45.980 Why don't you go to Hitler's back garden and make an occupation there?
00:06:50.260 Then they will know what kind of people these are.
00:06:53.260 Why every so many hundred years, the Zionists get slaughtered?
00:06:58.020 Because Hitler knew how to deal with these people.
00:07:01.540 They probably made a program so they can create a state of Israel
00:07:06.060 in the expense of Palestinian Muslims' blood.
00:07:10.880 You know, a lot of the language that was used by those protesters was similar,
00:07:16.220 even if they didn't use Hitler's name.
00:07:17.920 You're seeing swastikas turn up in numbers heretofore unprecedented.
00:07:21.980 The entire Canadian media freaked out when one agent provocateur briefly flashed a swastika flag
00:07:29.880 at the trucker convoy a year and a half ago.
00:07:33.080 And no one could identify him.
00:07:34.280 It was clearly a plant.
00:07:35.540 The whole country was up in arms.
00:07:37.900 I see swastikas at these pro-Hamas rallies every single day.
00:07:43.140 And the so-called anti-hate and diversity, equity, and inclusion police have nothing to say about it.
00:07:49.340 Have you seen a single human rights commissioner in this country?
00:07:52.800 There's 14 of them.
00:07:54.340 14 different human rights commissions, each one of them which have millions of dollars in budget
00:07:59.020 and dozens of staff.
00:08:00.400 Have you seen a single one of them condemn the river of hate?
00:08:03.800 I was thinking about Leith Marouf, that anti-hate consultant hired by Justin Trudeau and Ahmed Hassan and Pablo Rodriguez.
00:08:14.660 And he was finally fired for writing some of the most atrocious anti-Jew hatred around.
00:08:21.040 Here's some of his recent tweets.
00:08:22.600 He talks about Jew-saders, which is a made-up word about the crusades.
00:08:27.000 Just crazy, crazy stuff.
00:08:28.580 I put it to you that the anti-racism industry is actually the home of some of the worst racism in the world.
00:08:35.400 Anyways, back to that one-minute video that I showed you a moment ago.
00:08:40.200 You can probably see where I'm going with this.
00:08:43.800 That's not who's going to these pogrom marches.
00:08:50.160 That's not who's saying Hitler was right.
00:08:52.760 It's not middle-class white guys with their dads in a $60,000 pickup truck, father-son.
00:09:01.040 That's not who it is.
00:09:02.600 I'm not saying there are zero middle-class white guys with their dads and the kid says something dumb online like Hitler was.
00:09:11.920 I'm not saying there's zero of them.
00:09:13.220 I'm just saying I haven't seen a single one, and I've been looking at these protests either directly from inside them or our reporters.
00:09:20.600 That's not who they are.
00:09:22.140 And I think that that's part of the problem is we're looking with a magnifying glass for there's such a demand for Nazis on the right.
00:09:31.840 And we have absolutely missed the fact that the racism, the anti-Semitism, and frankly, anti-white racism is on the left.
00:09:40.560 And so let me tell you what happened to that tweet, because I thought that tweet, I mean, the guy who wrote it, he was sort of saying, yeah, man, come say that to my face.
00:09:50.180 Actually, the trouble is these marchers in London and in Canada, the trouble is they are saying it to Jews' faces.
00:09:57.820 They're attacking Jews, punching Jews.
00:09:59.680 A Jew was killed at a pro-Israeli.
00:10:03.240 He was waving a flag in Los Angeles a couple weeks ago, and a pro-Hamas protester hit him.
00:10:10.580 He fell down and died, and now that pro-Hamas protester is being charged with manslaughter.
00:10:16.720 Every single day in Canada, there are more assaults or shoot-ups.
00:10:22.020 So I think that tough talk, come say that to my face, that's actually happening.
00:10:27.900 I think that a shy white guy, like in that TV ad, might not actually have the courage or the hatred to go and say it to a Jew's face.
00:10:39.660 Maybe he is an Internet warrior.
00:10:41.600 But the trouble is there are far too many anti-Semitic haters who are throwing Molotov cocktails at synagogues, who are shooting things, who are punching people.
00:10:51.660 And let me read to you a response by just some, I don't even know who it is on Twitter, who wrote this.
00:10:59.060 Okay, Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.
00:11:10.280 I'm deeply disinterested in giving the tiniest SHIT now about Western Jewish populations coming to the disturbing realization that those hordes of minorities that support flooding their country don't exactly like them too much.
00:11:24.960 You want truth said to your face?
00:11:27.060 There it is.
00:11:28.000 So that commentator, who I've never seen on Twitter before, I don't know who it is, is saying the Jewish lobby groups, and that ad was paid for and circulated by a Jewish lobby group called StopJewishHate.org.
00:11:42.180 It is true that many of the open borders multiculturalism advocates have been Jews and have been Jewish organizations, including in Canada.
00:11:54.660 Now, that obviously doesn't mean every Jew.
00:11:57.080 And one of the things I don't like about the tweet that I just read to you is that it's sort of a collective guilt, collective punishment.
00:12:03.320 I'm a Jew who has always called for less immigration.
00:12:06.160 I call for zero illegal immigration and less legal immigration, and the less legal immigration should be vetted for a number of aspects, including cultural assimilability.
00:12:19.400 Do people assimilate and integrate?
00:12:21.360 Do they agree with our Western liberal values of pluralism, nonviolent solutions to problems, separation of mosque and state?
00:12:28.760 I've been saying these things for 20, 25 years, including when I was prosecuted by the Alberta Human Rights Commission for publishing the Danish cartoons of Mohammed.
00:12:38.300 So I don't agree with the broad brush comment that all Jews are guilty of bringing in this Jewish hate.
00:12:47.540 That's the Nazi concept of selbsttas, the Jews brought it on themselves.
00:12:52.320 I don't subscribe to that, but there is a truth to it, that suddenly all these liberals, and obviously Jewish liberals, but liberals too, who are shocked, just shocked, that when they went to bat for open borders immigration with no cultural fit, suddenly they're being devoured or threatened by it.
00:13:12.300 So I think that this commentator I just read, and I honestly don't know his real name, he goes by the artist formerly known as Eric, but the reason I point to his reaction is because Elon Musk replied to him and said,
00:13:32.760 you have said the actual truth, well, that set the cat amongst the pigeons, and immediately people said, uh-huh, Elon Musk, you're anti-Semitic, we proved it, no wonder you're allowing so much hate speech on Twitter.
00:13:47.960 No, no, that's not true.
00:13:50.000 I think that, again, it's the people who take out a microscope and a magnifying glass to look for tiny traces of hate on the right, who can't see the billboard-sized hate on the left.
00:14:02.760 I should tell you, and I've told you this before, that I follow, I have an account both on Twitter and on TikTok, and I get almost no anti-Semitism on Twitter, whether it's the algorithms or it's just not the place where anti-Semites hang out.
00:14:19.340 Whereas on TikTok, it is a Niagara Falls of not just garden-variety anti-Semitism, but deep, old-style Nazism, as well as non-stop Palestinian Hamas propaganda.
00:14:35.040 TikTok, in fact, there's a new TikTok trend, I don't know if you saw this, of getting young people to take Osama bin Laden's side of the story, because according to the woke way of thinking, the world is divided into oppressors and the oppressed.
00:14:51.760 And the oppressed can do anything they want, including murder, torture, rape, hostage-taking, and flying planes into buildings.
00:15:00.600 TikTok is where the hate is, but they went after Elon Musk because, of course, they want to censor the Internet.
00:15:07.560 And that's another thing I've noticed in recent weeks, is there's no call to arrest actual terrorism supporters in the streets.
00:15:16.440 That would require police arresting people who are visible minorities in the main, and that looks racist.
00:15:22.500 I think one of the reasons why the British police are so scared of arresting crazy haters on the street is not just because they'd be outnumbered and overwhelmed with physical force, but because they would be called racist.
00:15:36.340 And to this day, being called racist is the absolute scariest thing in the world for a liberal or a politician or a journalist.
00:15:44.920 Let me read you one more reaction to this video and these tweets.
00:15:48.800 Elon Musk then expanded on that, saying the ADL, that's the Anti-Defamation League, which claims to concern itself with anti-Semitism, but almost never finds racism on the left.
00:16:00.900 It really hunts conservatives, and we know that historically, and the fact that their leader used to work in Barack Obama's White House.
00:16:08.200 Anyways, this is what Elon Musk has to say about the ADL.
00:16:11.320 He says, the ADL unjustly attacks the majority of the West, despite the majority of the West supporting the Jewish people in Israel.
00:16:18.480 This is because they cannot, by their own tenets, criticize the minority groups who are their primary threat.
00:16:24.600 It is not right and needs to stop.
00:16:29.920 And then Elon Musk engaged in banter with ordinary Twitter users.
00:16:34.680 He said, you write that this does not extend to all Jewish communities, but it is also not just limited to ADL.
00:16:42.380 And at the risk of being repetitive, I am deeply offended by ADL's messaging and any other groups who push de facto anti-white racism or anti-Asian racism or racism of any kind.
00:16:53.280 I am sick of it. Stop now.
00:16:55.800 You know, it is amazing to go back and forth with Elon Musk.
00:16:59.760 He has even reacted to a number of tweets that Rebel News has done.
00:17:02.660 But I think that is the kind of conversation that we need to have.
00:17:06.400 And it is amazing to me that since Elon Musk bought Twitter, you can have that kind of conversation.
00:17:11.300 They would be immediately censored elsewhere.
00:17:13.420 Of course, Elon Musk is being demonized as anti-Semitic by the establishment for that.
00:17:18.780 But instead of because that's easier for them to do, it's safer for them to do than to actually criticize the hundreds of thousands of marchers around the world who are visible minorities, who are Muslim minorities, who are screaming for the death of Jews.
00:17:33.160 And I say that here in Canada.
00:17:35.980 Obviously, this is not a comment on race.
00:17:38.580 There are people from every race and, frankly, every country who are great Canadians.
00:17:42.400 One of my favorite Canadians I've ever met is my friend Raheel Raza, the chair of Rebel News, who came from Pakistan, the late Tarek Fada, who also from Pakistan.
00:17:52.280 They came here because they wanted to be free.
00:17:54.600 They didn't want to live in that country, which is unfree.
00:17:58.200 But to be able to say or to make an ad like that stop anti-Jewish hate, stop Jewish hate ad where the demon is a young conservative white male in a pickup truck is simply laughable.
00:18:10.880 Now, in fairness, that ad was made before the October 7th Hamas attack.
00:18:15.780 But that doesn't buy them a lot of latitude because the vast majority of anti-Semitic hate in the world is not from the right.
00:18:23.940 It's not even, I mean, it's not just Islamic countries where anti-Semitism is endemic.
00:18:32.720 It's also on campuses on the left.
00:18:35.680 We've seen so many people, I mentioned Lake Marouf earlier, who are in the anti-racism industry who have joined with the condemnation of Jews in Israel.
00:18:44.680 Anyways, that's my report from out front of the Gray Eagle Event Center.
00:18:49.640 I didn't have all my notes in front of me quite as much because I'm traveling and normally I type out my monologue loaded into a teleprompter so I can see my points in real time.
00:18:59.100 I'm just on the street today and I'm wearing my Rebel sweatshirt hoodie.
00:19:03.160 I hope you don't mind.
00:19:04.400 I did record an interview yesterday when I was in the studio that we're going to play now.
00:19:09.980 I want to thank you for your support for Rebel News.
00:19:12.420 We're here to see what Ben Shapiro has to say.
00:19:14.920 It's sort of fun to have a big American conservative come to our country.
00:19:18.900 I look forward to see what he has to say about Justin Trudeau.
00:19:21.820 I can't think of any two men who are more different than Ben Shapiro and Justin Trudeau.
00:19:26.240 I'm sure he'll talk about that tonight.
00:19:28.580 So I'll say goodbye to you now.
00:19:29.980 I'll leave you with the interview I did yesterday and then I'll come back for quick final words.
00:19:34.900 Well, Alberta has for many decades been a laboratory for new ideas in Canada.
00:19:52.900 It was Ralph Klein's fiscal responsibility that inspired Mike Harris's common sense revolution.
00:19:58.180 Just for one example, a lot of ideas are tested out in Alberta, including forming a series of new political parties.
00:20:06.760 No wonder that's where the Reform Party started, but it goes back much earlier than that.
00:20:10.840 Social credit, the NDP even, or the CCF.
00:20:14.460 Well, there's a new party that's been in government.
00:20:16.520 Well, I guess Jason Kenney was the first to cross the finish line.
00:20:19.820 And the UCP, the United Conservative Party, and their leader, Danielle Smith, is in her own way an ideas person.
00:20:27.920 She's a bit of a thought experiment person.
00:20:30.800 And I think that comes not just from her academic history, but she was a talk show host where she would bandy things about.
00:20:39.080 Well, now it's time as premier that she puts her ideas into practice.
00:20:43.100 And how will those ideas, and in her case, libertarian ideas, manifest themselves in the biggest bureaucracy in the province?
00:20:52.440 I'm talking, of course, about the Alberta Health Service's healthcare monstrosity.
00:20:58.080 Every single province in Canada has that Kafkaesque bureaucracy.
00:21:03.980 Can she fix it, reform it, make it work?
00:21:06.700 Joining us now via Skype from Edmonton is our friend Lauren Gunsch, a senior columnist for the Edmonton Sun.
00:21:11.660 His latest column is called, Alberta Healthcare Overhaul Plan Inspires, at best, Qualified Optimism.
00:21:20.600 Lauren, great to see you again.
00:21:23.260 I've known Danielle Smith.
00:21:25.320 In fact, I call her Danielle because I've known her since we were in college together.
00:21:29.440 I've known Premier Smith, let me be more respectful, for really 30 years.
00:21:34.560 Does she have the ability to take her libertarian Fraser Institute free market ideas that I know she has in her heart and implement them in real life against nurses' unions and hospital bureaucracies that hate her and hate reform?
00:21:53.420 Well, I don't see any evidence of that in the announcement that was made last week about a shakeup at Alberta Health Services.
00:22:04.420 As far as I can see, all they have done is changed the boxes on the org chart and some of the lines that connect the boxes, but they have left the same bureaucrats in the same positions, doing the same jobs, just with different titles of the organizations for which they do it for.
00:22:24.400 And so, yeah, I remain a skeptic.
00:22:27.900 This is a two-year process.
00:22:30.040 There was too much of an announcement made at the beginning and not enough waiting to the end.
00:22:36.020 They should have waited until they'd had consultations with nurses and doctors and with people in the regions of the province to determine what it was that needed to be shaken up.
00:22:45.900 But they came out last week with this brand new org chart that has four boxes where there used to be one box, and they're so proud of the fact that there are four boxes now and not one box, and that's going to switch it all over.
00:22:59.740 But if you look closely at the new org chart, instead of an overarching box called the Alberta Health Services that was looking out for everything in the province, hospitals, extended care, home care, all of the different types of health treatments that were available, medical testing, et cetera, et cetera.
00:23:22.160 Now there are four boxes, but there's an underarching bureaucracy that's supposed to ensure consistency among the four new boxes.
00:23:31.940 So really, to me, I'm unimpressed by it.
00:23:36.240 I really am.
00:23:37.320 You know, it's so hard to manage such a big thing.
00:23:42.040 It really is a centrally planned economy.
00:23:44.520 Health care is the largest program expense.
00:23:48.280 It's a double-digit share of the economy.
00:23:50.240 Of course, it is brutally difficult to manage it.
00:23:54.200 It reminds me of a short essay written by a French economist and philosopher called Frédéric Bastiat.
00:24:02.180 And I haven't read it in a while, but it was basically, he said, the city of Paris.
00:24:07.520 How can people go to sleep at night without being terrified that there won't be bread the next morning?
00:24:13.220 He says, how can all the bakeries know how much bread to order?
00:24:17.680 How can all the restaurants, who's in charge of delivering it?
00:24:21.160 How do we set the prices appropriately?
00:24:23.680 What kinds of, like he just, he talks about an extremely complex system that works spontaneously because everyone in the system is looking out for themselves.
00:24:36.020 And in this restaurant, they know what the demand is like on Sundays.
00:24:39.980 And this bakery knows they have to open early because of the holiday.
00:24:42.880 More importantly than that, there's an incentive for them to guess correctly.
00:24:48.280 If they guess wrong, they will lose profit, either because they'll end up with too much bread or too few customers because they run out of bread early.
00:24:55.700 So that's the beauty of the price mechanism is that you don't have to have it centrally planned.
00:25:01.040 That doesn't have to be a bureaucrat judge.
00:25:02.620 It reminds me of P.J. O'Rourke's assessment of why the Soviet Union fell.
00:25:08.160 He said, people got tired of waiting in line for size nine Bulgarian shoes.
00:25:13.100 And, you know, this is what we're dealing with.
00:25:16.240 We're dealing with people waiting in line for size nine Bulgarian shoes.
00:25:19.200 The only reason the health care system in any province works, and in Alberta as well, are the people who are involved in it are able to surmount the incredible grind of the bureaucracy.
00:25:33.400 Let me just close the loop on that Bastiat thing because he basically two ideas emerged from that.
00:25:38.620 One is spontaneous order, which is hard for us to understand.
00:25:42.920 That was his point.
00:25:43.780 Oh, my God, you're going to bed.
00:25:44.880 Aren't you worried?
00:25:45.420 We're all going to starve.
00:25:46.240 No, spontaneous order came, and then he had a flip side idea, planned chaos.
00:25:53.800 Like, imagine, and his point was there is no single person smart enough to run the bread.
00:25:59.240 Because you don't know all the information.
00:26:01.180 You don't know, there's a million things to know.
00:26:03.760 And so I think of Danielle Smith, who's smart, but no one is smart enough.
00:26:08.880 You can't have enough boxes in the org chart.
00:26:11.320 There is no thing smart.
00:26:13.980 I mean, would you nationalize the restaurants?
00:26:16.580 It's even more important than doctors because we have to eat every day.
00:26:19.860 I would worry more going to bed at night if the restaurants were nationalized.
00:26:24.480 Right.
00:26:24.860 Then I would wake up hungry.
00:26:26.660 Right.
00:26:27.040 Then I worry now when they're all private.
00:26:29.140 And so can Danielle Smith bring some freedom?
00:26:32.260 I mean, I've known her for 30 years.
00:26:34.220 I know she believes in libertarianism.
00:26:36.280 She was an intern at the Fraser Institute the year after I was.
00:26:39.040 So I know she knows this stuff.
00:26:41.440 She does.
00:26:41.800 I think there's a problem.
00:26:43.000 Go ahead.
00:26:43.980 Inside and out, she knows this stuff.
00:26:45.720 Absolutely.
00:26:46.380 I think the problem, Lauren, is that Alberta has such a big surplus these days, it's politically
00:26:52.000 easier just to slosh a bunch of money around.
00:26:55.260 I mean, let me quote from your article, which this is the line that scared me the most in
00:26:59.380 your column.
00:26:59.880 The column is called, Alberta Healthcare Overhaul Plan Inspires at Best Qualified Optimism.
00:27:05.000 It's in the Edmonton Sun.
00:27:06.240 And here's what scared me when you wrote this, Lauren.
00:27:09.340 I am surprised but encouraged by the number of people and organizations, such as the Alberta
00:27:14.400 Medical Association and Alberta Association of Nurses, who have expressed qualified support
00:27:19.940 the UCP healthcare reforms.
00:27:22.900 And I thought, you know, if the teachers union is endorsing Danielle Smith, which I don't
00:27:26.880 know if they would ever do, if the public said, that is terrifying to me because that's
00:27:30.800 not patients.
00:27:31.640 That's people in the system saying, we love you, Danielle Smith.
00:27:35.740 You're not the terrifying free market monster that Rachel Notley warned us about.
00:27:40.520 You're sloshing around billions of dollars.
00:27:42.200 That scares me, what you wrote there.
00:27:43.980 The other thing I said in that column is that this reminds me more of a list of New Year's
00:27:47.960 resolutions.
00:27:48.920 You know, I should lose a little weight.
00:27:51.280 I should get in shape.
00:27:52.320 I'd maybe cut down on drinking a little bit.
00:27:54.260 And by about the 15th of January, well, we know where most of those end up.
00:27:58.600 This says, for instance, we should have 24-7 access to urgent care everywhere in the province.
00:28:08.080 Well, that's a lovely idea.
00:28:09.400 But there is nothing in any of the documents they've put out so far that says, how are you
00:28:13.820 going to get a doctor in Manning, Alberta, which is up north of Peace River, when you can't
00:28:20.140 get one now?
00:28:21.020 I mean, it's lovely to say you're going to have 24-7 care, but you need to have probably
00:28:26.100 two doctors if you're going to have 24-7 care, and you don't want to wear out one of them
00:28:31.280 with being on call every day, all day long.
00:28:34.780 So, you know, where are the solutions for that?
00:28:38.460 They said in their throne speech the week before this came out that they expect Alberta's
00:28:42.860 population will double by 2050.
00:28:46.160 It would be at 10 million people, will be bigger than BC, will be bigger than Quebec.
00:28:51.880 The only province that would be bigger than Alberta would be Ontario.
00:28:54.960 That's lovely.
00:28:55.920 But are you going to build a lot of hospitals in the next 25 years?
00:28:59.340 Are you going to double the admissions or triple the admissions at the medical schools
00:29:02.640 and the nursing schools?
00:29:03.940 There is nothing in any of this except these bureaucrats who are all working under AHS, the
00:29:11.460 one big box, will now be doing the same jobs in this box, and this box, and this box, and
00:29:18.460 this box.
00:29:18.920 I fail to understand what any of this will do.
00:29:23.100 Now, there is a lot of consultation coming up.
00:29:25.860 If they sit down and they actually listen to frontline workers, they may get some suggestions
00:29:30.740 that will be helpful.
00:29:32.280 But it's the same bureaucrats who are running the consultations, who've been running AHS, and
00:29:38.160 they have a vested interest in staying in power.
00:29:41.620 Well, I know that the only answer, I know in my bones, and I know from my own experiences
00:29:46.700 with the healthcare system, it has to be patient-centric, just like schools have to be student-centric.
00:29:52.400 And so if you wanted to reform schools, you're not going to talk to teachers, teachers, unions,
00:29:55.520 or administrators.
00:29:56.260 You're going to talk to parents and the kids.
00:29:59.140 And I think it's the same with healthcare.
00:30:00.720 And I think the only answer is to bravely liberalize and allow free market healthcare,
00:30:07.220 have a safety net for those who can't afford it, and allow private capital.
00:30:11.280 The one thing the private sector is good at is capital allocation.
00:30:16.420 And they will know how to provide the bread to every bakery and restaurant in Paris,
00:30:22.460 more than even a smart premier like Daniel Smith.
00:30:25.360 I tell you, your articles made me nervous.
00:30:28.760 I think it's a missed opportunity, but that's politics for you.
00:30:33.320 Last word to you, Lauren.
00:30:34.560 Other than healthcare, how is Danielle Smith doing?
00:30:37.940 She had a massive party conference.
00:30:40.940 I think, what, 4,000 people or something were there.
00:30:43.620 Can you give us one minute on that?
00:30:46.040 Well, you know, it was encouraging to see that many people there.
00:30:49.960 She does have a little bit of a problem in that I think she wanted to go a little more
00:30:54.880 centrist, and the body of people at about 3,000 to the 4,000 people wanted her to stay
00:31:00.940 right or veer even further to the right.
00:31:03.260 I think that's all workable.
00:31:05.120 I mean, I think a lot of the coverage nationally, even provincially, was out to lunch because
00:31:12.300 they don't understand that most parents, for instance, would like to know if their child
00:31:18.100 goes to the school and wants to be known by a different name and different pronoun.
00:31:22.060 That's simply parental rights.
00:31:23.860 You and I talked about this earlier.
00:31:26.040 So I don't think it was as radical as it was made out to be.
00:31:29.880 But she does need to focus on things.
00:31:32.940 For instance, she is having a fight right now with the feds over carbon tax.
00:31:37.580 That's going to get her far more support than having a fight with the feds over abolish or
00:31:43.860 getting rid of CPP for Albertans and starting up an Alberta pension plan, which makes perfect
00:31:49.400 economic sense.
00:31:50.540 It's just not a political fight that's going to win her a lot of support.
00:31:54.620 Well, it's very exciting.
00:31:56.180 I think she is an innovator.
00:31:57.720 I love watching Scott Moe, too, by the way.
00:32:00.200 I love Scott Moe.
00:32:01.320 I think he's underrated and underpraised.
00:32:03.960 And he's like the tortoise and the hare.
00:32:06.420 He's not glamorous, but he just gets it right time after time.
00:32:10.300 And I think he embodies the spirit of that province in a way.
00:32:14.500 Absolutely.
00:32:15.220 You know, when Brad Wall left and the Saskatchewan party elected Scott Moe to replace him, I
00:32:21.980 thought, who in heaven's name have they picked?
00:32:25.060 But every time he speaks, everything he says, everything he does is, I think, pitch perfect
00:32:32.200 for Saskatchewan.
00:32:33.520 And that's why his approval ratings are similar to what Ralph's used to be.
00:32:38.000 In the early years of Ralph's government in Alberta.
00:32:42.720 Yeah.
00:32:43.100 Yeah.
00:32:43.440 You know, the word, if I had to sum up Saskatchewan in one word, it would be neighborly.
00:32:50.980 Neighborly.
00:32:51.500 I don't know what you would choose.
00:32:52.780 And I just look at Scott Moe and I think that's the guy you'd want as a neighbor.
00:32:56.560 Common sense, honest, hardworking, lend you a lawnmower, know how to fix it kind of thing.
00:33:02.480 And he's not a, he's not radical.
00:33:06.560 I mean, he's considered radical when you compare him against, say, Justin Trudeau.
00:33:10.240 But he is radically in tune with his province.
00:33:12.820 And God bless Saskatchewan is all I have to say.
00:33:14.720 Lauren, great to see you again.
00:33:16.020 Thanks for sharing your time and your views with us.
00:33:17.720 And we'll keep in touch.
00:33:19.240 You bet.
00:33:19.760 All right.
00:33:20.180 There you have it.
00:33:20.580 Lauren Gunter, senior columnist with the Edmonton Sun.
00:33:23.280 Stay with us.
00:33:23.920 More ahead.
00:33:24.360 Well, that's our show for today.
00:33:37.240 On behalf of rebels everywhere across Canada, including here in Calgary, to you at home,
00:33:42.880 good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:33:45.740 Thank you.
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00:33:49.200 We're going to be Mitglied.
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