EZRA LEVANT ｜ The media finally ramps up scrutiny of Trudeau's China ties
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The Globe and Mail ramps up its scrutiny of China's donations to the Trudeau family. Ezra Levenkamp explains why, and why they don't take any money from the Prime Minister's Office. He also explains why the CBC won't even cover it.
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Hello, my friends. Lots of news today in the mainstream media about Justin Trudeau and his
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connection to the Chinese Communist Party. It's great reporting. I absolutely acknowledge
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the fine work being done by the Globe and Mail and Global News. I can't even believe I'm saying
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that. I'll also read to you, though, from my book, China Virus, which I wrote three years ago, which
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has many of the same revelations three years faster than the media party. I'll show you that
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today. But first, please go to rebelnewsplus.com and subscribe. Rebel News Plus is what we call the
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We need it to pay the bills around here because we don't take any money from Trudeau. All right,
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without further ado, here's today's podcast. Tonight, the Globe and Mail ramps up its scrutiny
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of China's donations to the Trudeau family. But you probably read that in my book,
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China Virus, three years ago. It's February 28th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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I've said it before, the Globe and Mail is good on the China issue.
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You might remember a few years ago when we broke the news of Trudeau training Chinese soldiers from
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the People's Liberation Army here in Canada on Canadian military bases. It was accidentally
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disclosed in an access to information document that was only grayed out, not blacked out. It was the
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biggest scoop of my life. The Globe and Mail put that story on their front page. The CBC completely
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ignored it. Not one word. Good for the Globe. They do a lot of stories on China and China's attempts to
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undermine and infiltrate our country and our democracy. In fact, I'd say it's a major beat for
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the Globe and Mail. Steve Chase is the subject matter expert, the reporter over there, and he often
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collaborates with Bob Fyfe, their senior reporter over there. When the Globe and Mail wants to do
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journalism, they do journalism. Give them credit where it's due. And they're going to work on Justin
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Trudeau and his links to the Chinese Communist Party lately. Some might say, where have they been
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all this time? I mean, this video clip here from the Sun News Network, where I worked before Rebel News,
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which is actually before Trudeau became prime minister. There's a level of admiration I actually
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have for China, because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy
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around on a dime and say, we need to go green as fast as we need to start, you know, investing in
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solar. I mean, there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about of having a
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dictatorship that he could do everything he wanted. But still, they're going to work now.
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And I think part of what's motivating them is that Trudeau is so brazenly lying,
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lying while accusing the Globe and Mail of lying. You saw this yesterday when Trudeau claimed only
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racists would suggest China is undermining Canada. Let me start by being very, very clear.
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There are 1.7 million Canadians who proudly trace their origins back to China.
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Those Canadians should always be welcomed as full Canadians and encouraged to stand for office,
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to get involved in their communities, and to take on part of the leadership of this country.
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That's one of the great things about this country. Let me say that we are extraordinarily lucky
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and happy to have a member of parliament like Han Dong in our midst, serving his community,
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serving our country alongside Chinese Canadian MPs from different parts of the country, alongside an
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extraordinary diverse group of MPs who are proud Canadians, even as they trace their origins to
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elsewhere around the world. And that is as it should be.
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And I think one thing that gets the Globe and Mail mad and increases the number of leaks
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to the Globe and Mail from government insiders, in this case, from CSIS,
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is when Trudeau calls CSIS or others liars, as in the non-partisan civil service,
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and in this case, the non-partisan spy agency, when Trudeau seeks to save his reputation by destroying theirs.
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Trudeau has been doing a bit of that lately, too.
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It's also very important to highlight that we have national security and intelligence agencies
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who are there to protect all Canadians of all different origins, as well as our democratic processes.
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And we always engage with them and listen to them. But let me also be very clear to a really
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important point that I think some folks are choosing to overlook. In a free democracy,
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it is not up to unelected security officials to dictate to political parties who can or cannot run.
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That's a really important principle. We, of course, draw on the expertise every step of the way.
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But the suggestions we've seen in the media that CSIS would somehow say, no, this person can't run or that person can't run,
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is not just false. It's actually damaging to people's confidence in our democratic and political institutions.
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So I think that Trudeau's move that he usually deploys against, say, Rebel News or the Trucker Convoy,
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even the Toronto Sun or the National Post, that is, to go personal, to make ad hominem attacks,
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or to call people racist or whatever. I just don't think it works against the Globe and Mail,
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the ultimate establishment organization. They know they're not racist. They're not worried about the
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accusation. In fact, it's a sign to them that they're over the target. I have to say Trudeau's response
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to the reporting on the story reminds me of how he responded to the Globe and Mail's reportage
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of how Trudeau fired Jody Wilson-Raybould as justice minister for not helping him to get criminal
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charges dropped against his friends at SNC-Lavalin. The Globe had meticulously reported that story,
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many sources, very carefully, but Trudeau just flat out denied it, just looked right in the camera and
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said, it's not true. Remember that? Did you or anyone in your office pressure the former attorney
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general to abandon the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin? The allegations in the Globe story this morning
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are false. Neither the current nor the previous attorney general was ever directed by me or by
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anyone in my office to take a decision in this matter. I think that was the moment Trudeau made
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the Globe and Mail immune to his lies and gaslighting because they knew he was lying. And credit also to
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Global News. I can't even believe I'm saying those words. I played a two minute clip for you yesterday
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and I just want to play it again for you now because it was so chock full of news and facts
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and investigative journalism and the liberal response to imperiously say, you've got everything
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wrong. So many things wrong. We're not even going to list them all. So we won't even tell you actually
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anything other than it's all wrong. What an absurd alibi. Imagine telling that to a cop who pulls you over
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for speeding and driving with a broken taillight and making turns without a turning signal and running
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a red light to say, officer, you know, you've got so many mistakes in what you say. I can't respond to
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all of them other than to simply deny it. I just don't think it's going to work.
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Now, I think that kind of excuse works for Trudeau most of the time in his life,
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plus in his politics, never apologize, never explain. But it doesn't seem to be working this time.
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Reliably read since 1993, scoring the Liberal nomination in Don Valley North has been harder
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than winning a general election recently. But instead of leaning on his connections as a former
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Ontario MPP, sources say Han Dong had help from the Chinese consulate in Toronto to become the 2019
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Liberal candidate in the riding. Through a combination of CSIS documents and intelligence sources,
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Global News has learned the consulate allegedly sent two busloads of Chinese Canadian seniors to the
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Don Valley North Liberal nomination meeting. And those seniors knew who to vote for because Don's
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name was written on their arm. Sources also say CSIS suspected that Chinese international students
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with faked addresses were bussed in and told by the PRC consulate to support their preferred candidate
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if they wanted to maintain their student visa status. Dong denied allegations he was helped by Beijing,
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calling them false accusations that slander me and the community I represent. My nomination in 2019 was
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open and followed the rules. The Liberal Party of Canada echoed that nomination was open,
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adding Dong was elected by registered Liberals in a race that followed their national rules.
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Global News has not verified the allegations against Dong, but even if they are found true,
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political parties are private organizations and can set their own rules.
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Non-Canadians can vote in Liberal nomination races if they live in the riding and are party members.
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This is Han Dong. I'm the Liberal candidate for Don Manly North.
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Dong won the nomination, but he still needed Justin Trudeau's stamp of approval to carry the
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Liberal banner in the suburban Toronto riding, one with a sizable diaspora of Chinese Canadians.
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A senior intelligence official told Global News, CSIS shared their concerns about Dong in late
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September 2019 during a classified briefing with senior Liberal Party staff who hold security
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clearances. In that meeting, CSIS urged them to rescind Dong's nomination. Despite the alleged
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warnings to his staff, Trudeau approved Dong's candidacy. During the election, a top Liberal
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organizer even warned Dong's team that he was allegedly a CSIS target, according to sources.
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Dong is still an MP today. Global News asked the Prime Minister's office multiple questions,
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including if Trudeau knew Dong was allegedly a CSIS target. But PMO didn't respond to any of our
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questions, saying there were so many factual inaccuracies that it wasn't possible to begin to answer any of them.
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So you have the Globe and Mail. They're big. And Global News, they're pretty big.
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Doing some real journalism. That must feel good for them. After three years of propagandizing for
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lockdowns and for Pfizer. It's like they're using muscles they haven't used in years. And it looks
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good on them. And I hope to see more of it, by the way. You know, too much more journalism like that
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to put Rebel News out of business. Of course, Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster knows its role.
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Defend the regime. Defend the prince at all costs. Here's their headline on this whole thing. I am
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serious. This is their headline. Look for yourself. Trudeau denies security officials told liberals to
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rescind MPs candidacy. Seriously, the headline is the denial, not the accusation. They don't even
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say what the accusation is about China infiltrating and corrupting. The story leads with the denial,
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not the fact. And then it briefly mentions the accusations. And then the first expert, they quote,
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says it's a fake accusation. Let me quote. Stephanie Carvin, associate professor of national security at
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Carleton University, questioned the suggestion that CSIS would ask that a nomination be rescinded.
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CSIS's mandate allows it to report on threats to the security of Canada. I do not think this
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would extend to asking the prime minister's office to rescind a nomination, Carvin wrote in a tweet.
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Oh, well, then that settles it. A professor who receives grant money from the Trudeau government
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says she has trouble imagining that this thing happened. So case closed, right? Check this out
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here, of course. They interviewed, get this, Gerald Butts. Seriously, who does that? Remember him?
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He was the corrupt aide to Justin Trudeau, the one who demanded that Jody Wilson-Raybould interfere
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in that criminal trial. And he was later fired in disgrace over it. Who would talk to him about
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anything, let alone ethics or corruption or honesty? Well, the CBC, that's who obviously.
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He read the story in the Globe and he knows what the real blockbuster news is, though.
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He thinks the big news is that someone tattled on his boss. He highlighted that the leak would be
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illegal if it came from CSIS. And he said this on Twitter. He said, this is the most significant
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paragraph in this morning's Globe story. Its implications buggle the mind. Is that really
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the most important thing? That someone leaked to the Globe and Mail that China was paying off Trudeau
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and the Trudeau Foundation? Is the leak more significant than the substance of the leak itself?
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Well, for Gerald Butts it is, of course. He's terrified of what they might leak about him,
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because do you doubt that Butts himself was given the same briefing?
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I mean, he's been friends, best buddies since university with Trudeau. Butts was Trudeau's brain
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until he was fired. He's still obviously deeply involved in Trudeau's government.
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Butts was their chief candidate recruiter. Do you doubt he was up to his eyeballs in this?
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But let me close with two things. First, let me read a bit to you from this
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story in the Globe and Mail today. They're just doing work every day on this stuff.
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The headline is CSIS uncovered Chinese plan to donate to Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation.
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China appears to have targeted Justin Trudeau in a foreign influence operation after he became
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liberal leader in 2013, according to a national security source who said Beijing's plan involved
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donating a significant sum of money to the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation.
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The source said the Canadian Security Intelligence Service captured a conversation in 2014 between
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an unnamed commercial attache and one of China's consulates in Canada and billionaire Zhang Bin,
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a political advisor to the government in Beijing and a senior official in China's network of state
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promoters around the world. They discussed the federal election that was expected to take place in 2015
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and the possibility that the Liberals would defeat Stephen Harper's Conservatives and form the next
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government. The source said the diplomat instructed Zhang to donate one million dollars to the Trudeau
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Foundation and told him the Chinese government would reimburse him for the entire amount.
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Huh. That's big news. The story goes on and it's worth a read. Let me just read a little more.
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Just weeks after the May fundraiser, talking about a fundraiser, the Trudeau Foundation and the
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University of Montreal announced that Mr. Zhang and another wealthy Chinese businessman,
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Ngu Gencheng, would donate one million dollars to honor the memory and leadership of Pierre Trudeau,
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who as Prime Minister opened diplomatic relations with China in 1970.
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Of the one million dollars, 200,000 went to the Trudeau Foundation, which provides scholarships,
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academic fellowships and leadership programs. Another 50,000 went to pay for a statue of the
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elder Mr. Trudeau and 750,000 went to the University of Montreal's Faculty of Law to fund scholarships,
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which include grants that help Quebec students visit China. Pierre Trudeau graduated from the
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faculty and later taught there. The Trudeau Foundation, by the way, is basically a huge
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slush fund for the Trudeau family, friends, political allies. It's where family members get jobs.
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Here's Sarah Coyne, who is the illegitimate daughter of Pierre Trudeau and his mistress,
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Deborah Coyne. May as well give her a job. Here's Alexandra Trudeau, Justin Trudeau's brother. By the
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way, Alexandra actually worked directly for the Chinese government. They published his book on
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China. There are a million publishers in the world Alexandra Trudeau chose to work with and be paid by
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the communist government in China. If you look at their list of recipients for grants and type in
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the word journalist or journalism in the search field, you can see just how many so-called reporters
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are on the Trudeau payroll directly, literally from the Trudeau Foundation, which means they're on the
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Chinese Communist Party dime now. Now, doesn't it? That's what that means. I mean, for example,
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here's Susan Delacorte. She reports for the Toronto Star, but she took money from the Trudeau Foundation.
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Oh, and surprise, here she is with a loving piece on Justin Trudeau. Let me quote the story.
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Justin Trudeau is losing ground to Pierre Polyev. He's using Donald Trump to fight back.
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Got it. I'm sure it's a neutral, objective story. Hey, can I show you something? I read to you about
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the donations to the Trudeau Foundation from Zhang Bin. There's good stuff in the globe. But let me show
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you that in my book. Do you remember this book? China Virus. How Justin Trudeau's pro-communist ideology
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is putting Canadians in danger. I wrote it in the spring of 2020 when the pandemic was really new.
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Now, I got a few things wrong in retrospect. I think I was too worried about the disease itself
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back in April of 2020 when I wrote the book, April, May. But that was just half the book. The other half
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is about Trudeau's ties to the Chinese Communist Party. Let me read to you from my chapter called
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China Buys the Liberal Party. Let me read a few pages to you, okay? I mean, if you don't, if you have
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the book, you can follow along. Take the Trudeau Foundation, a massive slush fund for not only the
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Trudeau family, but for Liberal Party hangers-on. That's where Trudeau would send Chinese millionaires
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looking to make donations in exchange for favors, since it was all off the books.
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One happy donor just happened to be Zhang Bin, a member of China's National Committee of the Chinese
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People Political Consultative Conference. That's part of the Chinese dictatorship,
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whose close comparison would probably be the Canadian Senate. Zhang happily spread a million
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dollars around Montreal, including $200,000 that wound up in the Trudeau Foundation and a staggering
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$50,000 for a statue of Pierre Trudeau. It's possible that a Chinese Communist Party boss
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had a true affection for the Trudeau family. The Trudeaus certainly have an affection for China.
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But Zhang's official biography makes it clear his goal is, quote, enhancing the global influence
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influence of China. What exactly did Zhang seek to influence? And how would we even know how we went
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about it? No one who has watched the grifting by Trudeau and his family can be genuinely surprised
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that they accept dark money from foreign dictators. But Trudeau has invented something completely new,
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having a sitting Canadian cabinet minister working for the Chinese Communist Party on an actual
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committee, quote, in support of the national five-year plans.
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As in, Trudeau is returning the favor to his Chinese dictator friends. The China Council for
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International Cooperation on Environment and Development is not a bilateral organization that
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serves both China and Canada, like a Chamber of Commerce or a diplomatic group. It is an actual
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office of the Chinese government. And Canada's environment minister, Jonathan Wilkinson, actually works for
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it, as did his predecessor, Catherine McKenna. You can see this is dated a little bit because
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Stephen Gilboa is the environment minister now. The Council's membership list is obviously dominated
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by Chinese bureaucrats. There are a few expats who come from the world of the United Nations, but the
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only sitting politician from another country who goes to work for the government of China
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is Trudeau's environment minister. Here's an excerpt from the official About Us charter of the Council,
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wholly owned by the Chinese dictatorship. CCICED will provide policy analysis and recommendations,
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technical support, best practice support experience, and early warning in support of the national five-year
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plans and China's goal of building moderately well-off Xiaokang society. Again, this is not a Chinese
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Canada trade group. It's got nothing to do with Canada, other than we pay for it and we actually make
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Canadian cabinet ministers do it. No other country actually embeds its cabinet ministers in a foreign
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government and tasks them with making Chinese people better off. No mention of our own country,
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it's nuts. Even more incredible, Canadian taxpayers cover the cost of this. We pay 1.6 million dollars
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a year to the Chinese government for the privilege of sitting on their council to help them meet their
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five-year plans. I'm almost done reading from my book. How did that ever come to be and how on earth did it
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continue despite China seizing Canadian hostages, stealing Canadian trade secrets, boycotting
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Canadian agriculture, and lying to us about the virus? That's from my book, published three years ago.
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There are a lot of details in the book, some of which was my own research, some of which is footnoted,
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as you can see from other media. There are of course new details being broken in the reports in
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the globe. They actually have a CSIS agent telling them the inside story. That is new.
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And the fact that Trudeau and likely Gerald Butts were warned but waved off, the warning is stunning.
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But even today, there is censorship on this file. As you know, my book China Virus was a bestseller.
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It was allowed on Amazon, but then banned, but then allowed back again. Now, I just went there today
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and it's banned again. I didn't even know that. Only the audio book is available for some reason. They have
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literally banned the book again. They banned it. Who? Who's they? Who banned it? Trudeau? China?
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These days, that's probably the same thing, isn't it? Stay with us for more.
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Well, I think the last three years has been a disaster for experts because experts asked us to
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rely on their authority and in the end they were proven inaccurate. It reminds me of the Milgram
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experiment. You might recall there was the Ash conformity test and then there was the Milgram
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experiment where I think the professor's name was Stanley Milgram sent someone in wearing a white lab
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coat and a clipboard to tell people to do outrageous things in the case of his experiment to inflict
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physical pain on someone in another room who was actually just an actor pretending to be in pain
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to inflict an electric shock on them when they answered stupid questions wrong.
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And the whole point of the Milgram experiment, which was proven, which was shockingly proven,
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is that if someone looks authoritative and if they wear a white lab coat and they insist that
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they're right, well, people follow that to the point of torturing their fellow man.
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This was an experiment that, like the Ash conformity test, sought to explain how a modern,
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liberal, educated civilization like Germany could have become what it did become under the Nazis.
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How did that happen? Well, I'm not comparing the next subject to Nazism, but I'm saying that
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that obedience to experts who have studies and clipboards and white lab coats, I think it is a
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weakness in our social national psyche. And that weakness was shown during the pandemic and the
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lockdowns. Because look at this headline from climate depot.com, climate change blamed for 8000
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gun deaths in new study in Journal of the American Medical Association. So you know it's true.
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Claims association between temperature and shootings. Joining us now is the editor of
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climate depot.com, Mark Morano. Mark, I've never heard this one before. And if there's some expert
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with a white lab coat and a clipboard telling me it's true, it's got to be true that climate change
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has caused 8000 gun deaths. This one I got to hear. I got to hear this one. How do they
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how do they square that circle, Mark? Well, first of all, you know, keep in mind there's
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doctors in Canada who for the first time ever, and this is in fall of 2021, diagnosed the first
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patient as suffering from climate change. You have academics in Australia in a peer reviewed study
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calling for climate change to be listed as a cause of death on death certificates. And now you have this
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study. And here's the interesting thing. This is, as you mentioned, Ezra, this is in the Journal of
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the American Medical Association, premier medical and public health journal. I'm not on this show
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hyping up some Greenpeace blogger. I found some obscure, you know, panelists at Friends of the Earth.
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No, this is a peer reviewed study in the Journal of American, the top flight medical and public health
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journals of the world. This is a pairing. And I'll simplify the study for you in real simple terms.
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They actually believe that if you that warmer wet, because in summer there's more crime,
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because global warming is said to be increasing temperatures, we should expect more crime. And this
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is one of the basis of this of this study. And this is not a first time thing. About 2014,
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a United Nations climate scientist, or actually, I shouldn't say climate scientist, but a United
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Nations affiliated academic did a study claiming that barroom brawls, rapes, vehicle thefts, and all
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sorts of crime would increase as global warming increased on that same premise that warmer weather
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brings more crime. And of course, this is nonsense. You can go back and I did this at the time in 2014.
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It may no longer be true. But from the 1970s cooling, when they're worried about a coming ice
00:25:30.960
age, until at least the 2010s, there had been dramatic reductions in crime, both in the United
00:25:37.600
States, Canada, all Western societies. And if you look at that, we warm since the global cooling scare.
00:25:43.280
So the correlation didn't add up there. And of course, the other thing, the obvious thing here that
00:25:48.560
this study doesn't even address are Soros prosecutors, no funding for no prosecution
00:25:54.400
and misdemeanors. And of course, the defund the police movement. There's a lot of other factors
00:25:59.440
besides temperature that deal with crime. Yeah, it's just such a reach. But of course,
00:26:04.320
where there's money, you will find studies and grant seeking scientists. We, I think we all
00:26:09.840
are learning that again on the COVID side. Climate change is the cause of all these heart attacks
00:26:16.000
amongst young men, apparently. I'd never heard that one before, but they need to misdirect,
00:26:21.520
I think, from the real cause. Yeah, there's a lot of things that have to do with the crime
00:26:25.920
rates. I mean, I think Rudy Giuliani as mayor of New York City is probably did more single-handedly
00:26:32.480
to change the crime rate in America than any other factor. He just simply arrested and jailed people for,
00:26:38.560
you know, his broken windows theory of James Q. Wilson, arrest people for the small stuff,
00:26:42.800
you'll build up to catch them for the big stuff, arrest them for jaywalking, arrest them for
00:26:46.800
vandalism. And that cleaned up America's largest city, which was one of America's most dangerous
00:26:52.160
cities. That one man did it. And yeah, I don't think it was global warming. I think that,
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here's my question for you. You and I look at this and we laugh, but how many people out there
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said, well, a scientist said it, an expert said it, someone in a white lab coat and a clipboard
00:27:10.880
said it, so I may as well shock this stranger in the other room. I may as well believe this absurd
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study. Do a lot of people still believe this, or is this just a little cottage industry of grant-seeking
00:27:22.400
academics looking for some dough? Well, it's absolutely grant-seeking
00:27:26.320
academics looking for dough on one hand. But on the other, you're going to get 40% of the population
00:27:31.600
to agree. The same way you'll see them double masking when Fauci says it, the same people who
00:27:37.120
immediately comply with all the vaccine mandates who go along because they think it's for their
00:27:42.480
own good and the good of society. Now, this study actually says, and I'm quoting now,
00:27:46.960
increase in warmer temperatures due to climate change may create environments with higher risk
00:27:52.000
of firearm violence in the future, unquote. So what they're doing here is they're scaring you.
00:27:57.840
So here's the thing. If you don't support the UN-Paris agreement now or the Green New Deal,
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the message of this study is you are a killer with guns. Instead of being like,
00:28:08.720
if you don't wear a mask, you're a grandma killer. If you don't support lockdowns, you're a grandma
00:28:12.560
killer. Now, if you don't support climate mitigation measures, you're killing 8,000 people because of the
00:28:19.200
increase in gun violence it will cause. And this is how, and the same thing they're doing with COVID
00:28:24.240
in climate. They're now saying that the unchecked virus, unchecked climate change leads to more
00:28:28.640
viruses. So if you don't support a WHO pandemic treaty, for example, you are now a grandma killer
00:28:34.080
because of that. So what this is doing is it's creating a template, a narrative among that 40%.
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And here's the key. This is the part that kills us, Ezra. These aren't an inconsequential 40%.
00:28:46.240
These are generally the academic elite ruling class and the people in bureaucrats, governments,
00:28:54.000
cabinets, prime ministers, presidents, their staff, and sadly, most of our elected officials.
00:29:00.320
That's the problem is the 40% that fall for this will gleefully use it as another argument to push
00:29:07.440
their policies to mitigate climate, to mitigate COVID. It's another fear mongering tactic.
00:29:12.880
You know, it's probably enough to invoke the Emergencies Act in Canada. That used to be just
00:29:19.520
for national dangers like a revolution or an insurrection. But after the judge ruled it completely
00:29:27.200
legal because there was some horn honking, it wouldn't surprise me if there was a climate emergency
00:29:32.480
that was used as a justification to bring in martial law. I'm actually not joking, Mark. If they can call
00:29:38.240
bouncy castles and hot tubs and some horn honking, a justification for martial law, then surely this
00:29:46.880
study from experts in the Journal of American Metal Association, that's surely proof enough.
00:29:52.800
You know, I was thinking about, I think it was Jordan Peterson who said,
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there's something deep in our DNA that we stick together for safety. And you can see that in the
00:30:02.160
natural kingdom. You can see, you know, lions and tigers when they attack, you know, wild buffalo or
00:30:10.000
zebras, they go for the ones that are off away from the herd. You don't see lions dashing into a huge
00:30:16.080
herd that get kicked or stomped. And I think there's probably something in our genes that we stay with
00:30:21.200
other people for safety. Fish are in a school for reasons of safety. And I suppose it's just safer to
00:30:29.760
go with what the experts say, just to go with the dominant narrative. Maybe there's something deep
00:30:34.800
within our genes that is conformist, that says, well, this might be crazy, but everyone else is
00:30:40.080
doing it. And I'll probably be safer socially, safer physically, safer emotionally, safer politically,
00:30:46.720
if I just do and say what everyone else is doing and saving. Maybe there's something deep within us that
00:30:53.200
that is a conformist. I don't know. Because why else would people obey such absurd studies?
00:31:00.560
Yeah, I mean, we could have questioned this, but March of 2020 changed our world. And we saw
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things like the Milligram experiment, where the more absurd they got, the more willing
00:31:10.400
most of the public was to go along with it. And unfortunately, I think the early days
00:31:14.320
seemed like 80% of the public was going along or more. And then every month that, you know,
00:31:19.440
less and less public would defer to these experts. But it's absolutely, it's a psychological terror.
00:31:25.280
It's a psychological operation. This is what they were doing. Now, who would think we'd be eating
00:31:30.160
bugs? But what they've done as a psych op, they're introducing cricket-based snacks that are based in,
00:31:36.720
you know, all this flour and crispy and fat. So they don't look or taste like crickets,
00:31:40.880
but they're giving them to elementary kids. That's a psych op. So later on in life, they'll say,
00:31:45.600
oh, I ate insects. They were fine. They're doing the same thing in Europe, the kids. This is how they
00:31:50.000
weaponize the psychology of fear. And the key thing to mention here is you were talking about
00:31:55.920
how they can declare these, you know, all these associations and emergencies. We've had the New
00:32:00.400
York governor want to declare a gun violence emergency. We've had people talk about a
00:32:04.400
misinformation emergency. In the United States, we're talking about Joe Biden declare a national
00:32:08.880
climate emergency, which would give him 130 powers, executive powers. Now, if we think,
00:32:14.160
now this is a peer-reviewed study, what are you, a science denier? If you think that gun violence is
00:32:19.040
going to increase, 8,000 people are going to die because we're not doing anything about climate.
00:32:23.680
Under a climate emergency, is it really that hard in the post-COVID lockdown world to imagine a
00:32:30.400
president of the United States attempting to seize guns or to issue massive gun control without any
00:32:36.640
legislation under emergency powers because of a study like this warning of more gun violence?
00:32:42.080
That is where I think the true genius of this study lies. They're laying the groundwork
00:32:47.680
through the established organs of our ruling class in our countries to lay the foundation for judges
00:32:54.240
to say, well, this isn't a prestigious journal saying gun violence will increase. The president
00:32:58.960
has declared an emergency. He has these powers. We now have to start banning guns because of the
00:33:05.200
excess deaths we're concerned about. That is not far-fetched. I sound like a nut saying it,
00:33:10.000
but it's 2023. I would have been a nut saying it in 2019, but not now.
00:33:15.120
That's incredible. You probably don't know this because I don't know if you were following that
00:33:20.960
closely, but when Justin Trudeau invoked martial law, when he invoked the Emergencies Act,
00:33:26.400
which had never been used in Canadian history, not even during 9-11,
00:33:30.560
the response from the media was overwhelmingly, go harder. It wasn't shock or telling him to put on the
00:33:40.880
brakes. You've pushed the panic button. Now start swinging the batons. Start stomping people.
00:33:50.000
The media was exuberant. They wanted to see blood. It was like they were at a wrestling match or
00:33:56.160
something. So what you're saying, I think that all the global warming media, the Greta Thunbergs of the
00:34:03.200
world would be absolutely cheering for a climate revolution, literally a revolution. I believe it.
00:34:10.000
I want to hate. You know what? When you said that, you reminded me, I want to say, Mark,
00:34:13.920
I think it was early March of 2020. You were the very first person I spoke to who is a skeptic
00:34:21.600
on the risk of COVID-19. I will admit for at least a couple of weeks, I thought there was a real risk.
00:34:29.120
It was something not like black death, but you know, I had seen those propaganda videos out of
00:34:35.920
China with people literally falling in the streets. I had seen, you know, yeah, I was,
00:34:41.520
I was a little bit worried and you were the first voice on this show to say, come on,
00:34:45.280
this is like the Y2K thing. And I thought, geez, Mark, I mean, I like that you're a contrarian. I
00:34:50.320
like that you're a skeptic, but on this, come on, look at, use your own eyes. I mean, I, I didn't quite
00:34:56.480
say that, but I thought, boy, you're, you, you're certainly, um, taking a bold step there.
00:35:02.880
You were the first person I met who was a skeptic. And in the end, you've been absolutely redeemed on
00:35:09.040
that. And, uh, I like to think of myself as a skeptic and a contrarian and a critic,
00:35:13.920
but I think for a couple of weeks I bought into it. Well, thank you for saying that. Yeah. I mean,
00:35:18.560
I was in this in March of 2020. And the reason I think I was so skeptical is I had seen what public
00:35:23.120
health had done with the vaping crisis, how they just used an illegal black market
00:35:28.640
vape to literally try to ban all vaping. And then cigarette rates went up as well. So it's,
00:35:33.520
you know, regardless of what you think of vices, cigarette smoking has proven more dangerous than
00:35:38.320
vaping. Uh, and I saw public health, the way they handled that, but more importantly, I followed the
00:35:43.440
work of Michael Fomento for decades, science under siege. He had detailed a lot of the stuff you're
00:35:48.960
seeing now from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was written about decades ago by Michael Fomento about Anthony
00:35:54.000
Fauci, about NIH, about the AIDS virus, about past, uh, the virus scares. So I was extremely skeptical
00:36:01.440
that anything that had Anthony Fauci's name on it, uh, in March, 2020, we were being had and we were
00:36:07.280
had in probably in our lifetimes. Uh, I can't think of an equivalent of what happened. Not so much
00:36:13.360
that the virus did or didn't exist, but that the solution to the virus was pure and, uh,
00:36:18.720
unbelievable, raw authoritarianism. And they're ready to keep it going. Bill Gates, number two
00:36:24.320
funder, the world health says, follow Australia. We have the Biden administration pushing for this
00:36:29.040
pandemic treaty beyond what even the who does. So in essence, we haven't learned anything on a
00:36:34.720
government level, but let's hope that the public engages in mass resistance, uh, if any future
00:36:41.600
restrictions like this come down the pipe. Well, some will, that's for sure. But I,
00:36:45.520
I have to tell you every day in this city, I see people with masks or double masks, even they're
00:36:50.880
outside snowing, they're outside wearing two masks by themselves in the snow. If that's how it is,
00:36:57.680
Mark, when they bring, if they bring back another crisis, do you think that person, he would be the
00:37:02.320
first person to sign up? I don't know. I, um, you had an advantage if you knew who Anthony
00:37:08.480
Fauci was and you knew his history. And I did not, I had never heard of him until this. And so I think
00:37:14.400
you knew enough about health scares that that armed you. I took it on good faith and I, I kicked myself
00:37:22.240
for being naive, but I think I sobered up pretty quickly on this stuff. Well, I want to say one
00:37:26.080
thing I would, I just gave a speech in Orlando, Florida at the Heartland climate conference.
00:37:30.000
The focus of my speech was, it was a 1985 book called everything I needed to know I learned in
00:37:35.040
in kindergarten. Well, I retitled that book to everything I needed to know about COVID. I had
00:37:39.680
learned in the climate debate, come up with, and I, everything was so familiar, come up with scary
00:37:44.480
models of death and doom, unless we follow some big authoritarian government response. And I went
00:37:51.440
through a point after point. Then you smear your opponents. I used examples of how they smeared
00:37:56.080
scientists and climate, how they smeared them in, uh, COVID. I went through all the examples of government,
00:38:02.160
uh, overreach and, uh, all, I mean, the similarities, I, John Kerry is who I used.
00:38:07.760
He said the similarities between COVID and climate are screaming at us. And it was an amazing thing
00:38:13.600
because all the solutions were the same. All the tactics were the same. Then claiming we own the
00:38:18.560
science, the UN claimed it on climate. And of course, government said, we own the truth. We,
00:38:23.520
uh, and Anthony Fauci said, I represent science. Unbelievable imperatives. I gave a 25 minute speech
00:38:29.680
just on that. And I think that is why I was so skeptical. Cause I just, I literally was watching
00:38:35.120
the climate debate play out in real time in a matter of say two months, what I had witnessed
00:38:40.240
over two decades. Yeah. You know what? I, I really didn't know much about our Robert F. Kennedy,
00:38:45.200
Jr. I knew he was, uh, involved with the water keepers and he had some environmental bona fides like
00:38:50.480
that. I never really knew that much about him. And by the way, shocking development. And I just gave
00:38:56.080
this at Heartland and it wasn't received by a lot of climate skeptics. He called for the
00:38:59.680
jailing of climate skeptics, 2014. But if you look at his children's defense fund, Robert F. Kennedy,
00:39:04.080
Jr., he literally has now had articles warning of climate lockdowns, articles warning of the United
00:39:10.800
Nations and climate agenda, articles warning against sustainability. There is no way Robert F. Kennedy,
00:39:16.320
Jr. is the same Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. of five years ago, supporting all the climate hysteria. He
00:39:21.600
can't be because he would have to recognize the same people, the same tactics, the same model of
00:39:27.760
science, the same authoritarianism is in both. So I urge your readers and listeners and viewers to go
00:39:34.240
look at the children's defense fund of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. He's got some great material there
00:39:38.320
warning now of how they're using climate to do similar type COVID stuff. I would have never thought
00:39:44.080
it. Now for the democracy fund, we hosted Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. for an hour. And I learned so
00:39:51.440
much from him and my respect for him. And I couldn't believe that I was thinking and feeling this way
00:39:56.800
because his family, the iconic, ultra liberal, essential liberals. But given this, he's intellectually
00:40:03.040
honest. He's fiercely independent. He doesn't give a care about what popular opinion has to say.
00:40:10.240
And maybe it comes from being the son of the late Robert F. Kennedy and the nephew of John F. Kennedy
00:40:17.200
and their service and their sacrifice. Maybe he just doesn't care what the mean kid says. I learned
00:40:23.920
so much from him and I couldn't, and I felt liberated from, I'm not going to say I was prejudiced
00:40:29.440
against him, but I just wouldn't have given him the time of day. It was probably the most interesting
00:40:34.320
hour I had spent on the whole subject. And he's very rigorous too. And we're both in the RFK
00:40:42.480
Jr. Fan Club, it sounds like. And I saw James O'Keefe of Project Veritas visiting with him. There
00:40:49.360
was a little selfie that they posted on Twitter the other day. That made me feel good too. Last
00:40:54.080
word to you, Mark. Yeah, I was going to say, the key to Robert, you said it, is intellectual curiosity
00:40:59.440
and honesty. He called us, you know, he said climate skeptics should be jailed at the Hague with
00:41:04.400
three square meals and a cot. I write in my book, The Great Reset, all is forgiven for him standing up
00:41:10.480
against the vaccine mandates, the mask mandates, against public health authoritarianism,
00:41:14.560
the lockdowns. He knows how to build coalitions. He's going on your show. He's going on Tucker
00:41:19.520
Carlson. He's going on conservative podcasts. He is willing now to work and create new alliances,
00:41:25.280
as are people like Russell Brand and Jimmy Dore. I recommend you get Jimmy Dore on your show if you
00:41:29.920
can. He's phenomenal. And also Russell Brand. This is a new coalition between people who want freedom
00:41:37.360
versus tyranny. It's not left-right anymore. And they were trying to divide us on left-right issues,
00:41:42.960
be it race, be it the woke agenda, be it transgender. We have to keep our eye on the bigger prize,
00:41:48.480
which is just pure freedom versus tyranny. And that's where we can work with these honest liberals.
00:41:54.480
You're so right. And the pandemic has really shown that it's a new coalition. I find myself working with
00:42:01.120
people who I wouldn't even have considered four years ago. Well, great to see you and
00:42:06.240
thanks for the update and keep up the fight down there. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'll be in
00:42:10.960
Canada. I'll be in Calgary coming up this week at an event in Calgary, giving a keynote on climate
00:42:16.560
lockdowns. Well, that's great. We've got a lot of supporters in Calgary and we'll put that information
00:42:21.040
on the screen and under that, under this video. Well, there you have it. Mark Morano,
00:42:25.280
the boss of ClimateDepot.com. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.
00:42:34.880
Hey, welcome back. Your viewer mail. The Salty Duke says,
00:42:39.520
Hi, Ezra. On your story about Chinese interference, great work, but Handong is only part of the story.
00:42:44.640
The fact that the app TikTok has been allowed on government mobile phones for years before it was
00:42:48.400
just banned is what we should really know. How many confidential government meetings have been
00:42:52.880
recorded? How many private conversations from elected officials have been recorded and captured
00:42:57.520
by this ByteDance app that is a Chinese Communist Party controlled entity? This app has been a known
00:43:03.040
privacy breach for years, as was previously reported by Rebel News. I think it would be far more interesting
00:43:08.080
to know which government officials had this app on their phones to understand how compromised our
00:43:12.480
government really is. Keep up the great work. Well, not just that. In fact, I just saw today,
00:43:17.760
the independent news website called Black Locks reported that the government of Canada
00:43:22.640
advertises more than a million bucks a year on TikTok. So they're deeply into TikTok.
00:43:29.200
Steven Irku writes, keep Canadians safe. That's all he ever says. They must have focus group that line
00:43:34.880
and found it plays well with the liberal voting base. Yeah, they tell us they're keeping us safe from
00:43:39.920
so many things. From the virus, all you have to do is stay locked in your home. From misinformation,
00:43:45.360
all you have to do is let Trudeau censor things. He's certainly keeping us safe, isn't he? Safe
00:43:50.160
from our own choices and our own freedom. Between the lines, 55 says, Suzuki is an expert in anarchy.
00:43:58.800
Well, I think he supports anarchy, but he's very much an establishment man. I used to do a lot more
00:44:03.760
research on Suzuki. When I last checked in on him, he has four homes. He's a multi-multi-millionaire.
00:44:11.120
Obviously, he receives a lot of money from the CBC, but at the same time, he has a whole charitable
00:44:17.760
foundation named after him that receives millions of dollars, including from offshore interests. So
00:44:22.480
yeah, he is an anarchist in the streets, but an establishment man in the sheets.
00:44:31.200
Thanks for watching. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:44:35.040
see you at home. Good night, and keep fighting for freedom.