Rebel reporter Mocha Bazirgan is on the road with the truckers, talking to them and the people gathering by the side of the road all across this country. The mainstream media is panicking. They tried calling the trucker convoy racist and sexist, and it didn t work. So now they're calling them violent.
00:21:23.480Like, just give us a little bit of what it's actually like.
00:21:25.980Well, I've been following the, I mean, we've been following the convoy since Calgary.
00:21:33.760So, based on our experience, we saw that there is a huge lineup of a convoy, a big convoy, and then there are chunks of it.
00:21:44.520Like, some people, like, let's say half of the convoy decides to pull over in, for example, Swift Current, and to do their business there, or sleep, because they can't find hotels or Airbnbs in the target area.
00:22:01.180And now, same thing in Winnipeg, and same thing today as well.
00:22:06.660We catch up with the convoy in Kenora, I think that's the town name.
00:22:11.360And we saw a huge convoy, trucks don't stop coming, cars don't stop coming.
00:22:19.400We've seen many, many vehicles with plates from Saskatchewan, Manitoba, BC, Alberta.
00:22:25.420So, there are people with their own vehicles who are coming to Ottawa as well.
00:22:30.040And local people also joined the convoy to a certain point, to a certain city, not all the way to Ottawa.
00:22:50.100And I would say the cars and the trucks in total, I would say it's in the thousands.
00:22:59.660I hear some people go very extremely high numbers, but I've been always a conservative when it comes to numbers.
00:23:07.600Whether it be a number of people protesting or a number of vehicles participating in a convoy, I would keep it in the thousands.
00:23:16.900And the fact remains that this is not the only convoy.
00:23:21.360There are many convoy going on across the country that are joining the convoy.
00:23:27.060And they're all going to come down to Ottawa.
00:23:33.240So, when you add those numbers as well, we will see if it will reach the 10,000.
00:23:41.680I mean, it's incredible the amount of hardware and metal on the streets.
00:23:49.040I know that you and I have been talking about getting hotel rooms along the way.
00:23:52.820Obviously, you have 1,000 vehicles of any sort moving into a town as small as, say, Kenora.
00:23:58.820That's going to sop up all the hotel rooms, all the Airbnb's immediately.
00:24:04.060Like you say, some of these guys sleep in their own trucks.
00:24:06.660A lot of these trucks have a little sleeper cab, but it's quite a thing.
00:24:10.000Now, one of the things that Sheila Gunn-Reed told us when she was covering it in Edmonton is that along the way, the Department of Transportation was requiring these truckers to pull over on way scales,
00:24:24.020which is something you do with a fully loaded truck to make sure it's not overloaded, check the logs of the drivers, make sure they're getting enough sleep, et cetera.
00:24:31.260But the way Sheila described it, it sounded like they were being punitive, that they were just doing this to harass the convoy.
00:24:37.280I've also heard other reports in some places that the police are really friendly.
00:24:41.520Have you had any observations of how authorities along the way have handled the convoy?
00:24:50.700In Alberta, the government compelled the trucks to go through the scales, which caused an enormous delay, and we are still feeling the effects of that delay.
00:25:01.440One of the worries is that my understanding from Celine, my co-worker, her father is also a truck driver, and she has informed me that truck drivers are compelled to take off and sleep after putting a certain amount of hours driving.
00:25:22.260I think that's 40 hours, I think that's 40 hours, is that correct?
00:25:26.100So there's that concern, because if they are on the road for 40 hours and they can't make it to Ottawa, that is going to create problems for them.
00:25:33.400I have not, police, I have not interacted with much.
00:25:39.100They've been so far very minimal and maintaining order.
00:25:43.980My understanding is that in Winnipeg, they did not allow the convoy to go to the parking lot or to the pit stop, the designated pit stop that they were coming to, due to overcrowding.
00:25:57.540There were so many people there, so many cars, apparently police said this is too dangerous, they just can't enter with their, these long trucks, someone could get hurt.
00:26:09.900So, and that caused an enormous traffic in Winnipeg, hours long, it caused us, like we just couldn't get through to the place, and you have seen our drone footage in Winnipeg, and how such an enormous traffic there was.
00:26:25.320Yeah, that was incredible. I really love the drone footage you have.
00:26:29.280Now, you mentioned you're traveling with a rebel in training, Celine, I understand she's next to you there.
00:26:33.180We haven't met her yet. I wonder if you can move the cell phone upon which you're speaking, and we'll just say a quick hello, just because we haven't yet met her on the show.
00:26:43.240In fact, hello, Celine, why don't you just introduce yourself to our rebel viewers?
00:26:54.580Oh, yeah. Hi, my name is Celine. I'm from Calgary, a rebel in training, and I am with Mocha Visurgan on the way to Ottawa to document the PowerPoint, and everything that's going around her own life.
00:27:06.440Well, that's great. I guess Mocha's got the headphones on, which is why you can't hear my questions.
00:27:11.380Maybe we could have Celine's thoughts on it, not just as a rebel in training, but also as the daughter of a truck driver.
00:27:20.400Is there a certain spirit of truckers that this taps into?
00:27:24.160Because of all the different industries in the country, nurses, police, firemen, government workers, flight attendants, I mean, so many industries have had meek protests against the mandates.
00:27:36.520Is there something about truckers that caused them to have the boldest protest yet?
00:27:41.740I don't know if you can pass that question on to Celine. I know you've got the headphones on.
00:27:45.780Ezra is asking if you, as a daughter of a truck driver, how do you feel about all this?
00:27:52.000As you know, many people across other sectors have protested in a meek way, but truckers are really getting a, putting a strong step.
00:28:02.260Yeah, I think it's, it's definitely something really near to my heart, considering that if, you know, my father does just do like that traveling within the country,
00:28:11.020but, um, I know that if it comes down to this going through them, we're sure to limit it into prevention trucking for the next thing.
00:28:17.660And if that's the case, then obviously that is not a choice that my father would like to make.
00:28:22.300So in terms of respecting his choice for bodily autonomy, everybody else's choice, not just the truck reason that everybody else who, um, wants to just routine a piece of having choice,
00:28:33.960having the ability to make a choice, a medical choice, any choice, um, I think is incredibly important.
00:28:39.280So, I mean, I guess what I would just have to say to everybody out there is to just keep on going with this and to not stop the momentum and, um,
00:28:47.780definitely tune in with Rebel News and people that are actually in the convoy who are following along and they're posting relevant material because they are a part of this movement.
00:28:55.960They're a part of this group, uh, they're either a trucker or they're a supporter who's actually traveling with the convoy.
00:29:01.240Um, or, you know, there's someone who's, who have, uh, donated in, um, I think that just speaks for itself.
00:29:07.180It's not just truckers that are here that are a part of this.
00:29:10.240It's very much, uh, so much, it's on a global scale, much bigger than people are able to even be able to, uh, comprehend, I believe.
00:29:18.460Uh, just to be able to gather crowds from, you know, BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, everywhere.
00:29:27.000We see plates that are, it's just really incredible and beautiful to see because I don't think that we have actually been able to unite in such a way.
00:29:34.180Um, and it's been years that this has been going on for the restrictions and mandates and whatnot, and it's very helpful and it's a really beautiful thing to be a part of.
00:29:42.900Celine Gallus, Rebel in Training, great to talk with you.
00:29:50.900You're showing a lot of, uh, vistas and it's quite a feast for the eyes, but I want to, uh, ask you one political question before I let you go and I don't want to delay you on the road.
00:29:59.700Um, I, I did my monologue today about two stories, one in CTV, one on CBC, but they're really everywhere in the media that, um, you know, it's sort of funny, a couple of days ago the media party was saying, oh, don't worry about these protests, it's just a protest against driving conditions.
00:30:18.500That was seriously the, the CBC's first report about truckers, oh, no, no, no, no, they're just upset about highway conditions.
00:30:25.480They've gone from that to saying, oh, my God, it's going to be like the January 6th insurrection, they're going to ram their trucks into Parliament Hill, this is a terrorist movement.
00:30:34.840And they're all saying the same thing at the same time.
00:30:38.240They're not quoting any actual truckers or any organizers.
00:30:41.100They're just quoting these government paid, quote, experts.
00:30:45.440What do you make of the extreme demonization, uh, by the, by the entire political media establishment of the, of the truckers?
00:30:54.500I mean, it just happened so quickly too.
00:31:00.260That's, that's what they are experts on.
00:31:02.800That's their expertise to quickly demonize people who are stepping out of the line.
00:31:08.620And, yeah, it's, it seems very elitist to me.
00:31:13.140Not that elitism, I mean, I'm not going to get into that, but I've been with the people, with the working people, with the hardworking people, with the people of this country, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba.
00:32:17.480Who have been told that they can't, um, they will lose their job if they don't get the vaccine.
00:32:22.280They've been, right, if you're unvaccinated right now in Canada, you can't even fly.
00:32:26.780You can't go to a restaurant, like, this is the degree that the politicians, the ruling party has taken against them.
00:32:38.620And they are, for the first time, having a national pushback, having a national protest against them and really showing their numbers, really showing, I mean, you have seen my videos.
00:32:50.960It's composed of very diverse people, diverse communities.
00:33:13.160Listening to you, I was thinking, because, uh, I, we talked about the fact that when you were in Turkey as a young man, you were arrested, or you were taken to the police station twice because of your YouTube videos.
00:33:24.140And, uh, that's, I, I think you, you, you've had a lifelong love of freedom.
00:33:29.200And it just makes me chuckle because one of Trudeau's funded attack groups said that the convoy is Islamophobic.
00:33:37.420And I thought, well, I better check with MOCA, uh, to see if, uh, if that's true.
00:33:42.020I know it's not true, but there are people of every, I mean, a lot of truckers are visible minorities.
00:33:46.700A lot of truckers are Sikh for whatever reason.
00:34:56.760We'll be there about one and a half hours.
00:34:59.620But I have to tell, I have to say, this is just watching Canadian government acting out so weirdly like this and exaggerating things and just projecting things that are not true onto these peaceful people, these wonderful people that I have met, that I have interviewed.
00:35:19.380Well, some of them are rebel fans, some of them knew me from a kilometer away, they knew me at, called my name.
00:35:26.880Well, all I gotta say is, it's just funny because I, I, I was in Turkey when the coup attempt happened in 2016.
00:35:39.460Jets flying, um, lower, blowing the windows, tanks on the street running over people, um, police killing soldiers, soldier, opening fire on police, lynchings, um, helicopter, the parliament exploded.
00:35:55.640It was a two year long trauma, two year long, um, state of emergency, unbelievably, everyone was getting jailed, fired, all this crazy stuff happened.
00:36:09.100And yet still, some people in Turkey were saying that this was a teeter to Venezuel Erdogan.
00:36:14.620Now, my point is that I've seen that, and then I see January 6th, and they called it an insurrection.
00:36:23.760And then I see the trucking conduit, and the Canadian government's and the media's reaction to it, and it just makes me giggle.
00:36:32.740It's just West, you know, first world, um, problems, I guess.
00:37:27.440These truckers aren't even blocking the road.
00:37:29.700Like, I've seen in other jurisdictions, truckers block an entire road as a political protest to slow down the rest of the truck.
00:37:37.000That's, this, this convoy is not doing that.
00:37:39.440Well, I tell you, Mok, it's great to have your perspective in that, that anecdote about what it was like in, in Turkey in the attempted coup is very illuminating.
00:37:48.340But I think the commonality between Erdogan and Trudeau is this.
00:37:52.420Both of them will use any incident, real or imagined, to demonize their opponents.
00:37:59.460And then use that as an excuse to take rights away from their opponents.
00:38:03.560I think there is an authoritarian commonality between Erdogan and Trudeau.
00:39:59.720Public health has something to hide and I smell a scandal.
00:40:03.060The Toronto Board of Health has censored the personal account of an alleged vaccine injury.
00:40:08.700And in today's report, I'm going to show you just how sneaky these bureaucrats can be.
00:40:14.480For Rebel News, I'm Tamera Ugolini pointing out some fishy actions by the Toronto Board of Health a mere day and a half after the interview that I conducted with unofficial COVID data analyst Kelly Brown.
00:40:30.880We, at the time, discussed the presentation that he delivered to the Toronto Board of Health on January the 17th.
00:40:39.020And then we linked back to the fully public, live-streamed video.
00:40:44.240And on Friday, January 21st, I tried to go back to that publicly available live stream source to get some additional content.
00:40:52.580But when I tried to do that, I was shocked to find that the board had privatized the video.
00:41:00.140In usual times, which obviously these are not, you would be able to find the full, live-streamed, and public video on the City of Toronto Council and Committee's Meetings Agenda and Minutes website.
00:41:15.720But the video was privatized, and we'll show this screen grab that we got on screen now to prove it.
00:41:24.000And it appears that sometime thereafter, the video was magically republished under the Board of Health's video archive, but with at least one key speech missing.
00:41:35.980It was the speech of Dan Hartman, who runs a Twitter page called Answers for Sean, where he claims that his 17-year-old son died a mere few weeks after his first Pfizer injection.
00:41:50.780Look at the formal public record of his speech.
00:41:55.080Dan, welcome. You'll have five minutes. Thank you for joining us, and you can begin when you're ready.
00:42:15.180His entire speech and the dialogue that ensued, it's gone. Completely.
00:42:21.340Councillor Wong Tam engaged with him a little bit, and they had a conversation.
00:42:24.440And so is the way in which Joe Cressy, he's the chair for the Board of Health, responded to Dan's heartbreaking allegation.
00:42:34.220Cressy was heartless and cold, not even attempting to acknowledge the tearful account by Sean's dad.
00:42:40.640He glossed over the horrific allegation entirely.
00:42:44.280I know, because I watched it live, but it's a clip that we can no longer view, thanks to whomever decided to scrub the speech from the public record.
00:42:55.620Here is one clip that made it onto social media of Dan's speech.
00:43:01.760It's not the complete clip, and again, I know because I listened to it live, but it's better than the absolute nothing that we're left with from the Board of Health's public record.
00:43:12.740All over his neck and face and brown circles around his eyes.
00:43:17.880They sent him home, and on the morning of September 27th, his mother found him dead on the floor beside his bed.
00:43:29.840And all he wanted to do was play hockey.
00:43:33.820So I'm just wondering really how safe this is and why no deaths are being reported.
00:43:40.740You're talking about numbers and ICUs, but nobody ever talks about deaths, and it is happening more than anyone knows, and it's just being denied and silenced.
00:43:53.320And I have a Twitter page called Answers for Sean, which has 7,500 followers who are all wondering the same thing as me.