Rebel News Podcast - July 19, 2023


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Transgenderism in schools： A feature interview with Barbara Kay


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

Words per Minute

152.57175

Word Count

6,075

Sentence Count

368

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

47


Summary

Barbara Kay and Ezra LeVant discuss Justin Trudeau's conversation with a Muslim parent concerned about Drag Queen Story Hour. They also talk about the decline in support for gay rights among conservative voters, and why it may be due to the sexualization of children.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today's an interesting show. We have Barbara Kay, always a fan favorite.
00:00:04.000 We're talking about transgender politics, and we're going to go through a number of things,
00:00:08.760 but one of the interesting things is a video of Justin Trudeau in a Muslim mosque talking
00:00:14.300 to a Muslim dad who's worried about Drag Queen Story Hour. We'll go through that video and give
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00:00:59.340 Tonight, Barbara Kay and I analyze Justin Trudeau's conversation with a Muslim parent
00:01:08.000 concerned about Drag Queen Story Hour. It's July 19th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:13.320 For a generation, gay rights has increased in popularity, even amongst traditionally conservative
00:01:34.820 or Republican voters. What I mean by that is equality before the law, benefits at work,
00:01:40.920 gay marriage, even gay adoption. Every year, the numbers keep creeping up 1% or 2%.
00:01:49.480 But for the first time in a generation, those numbers are falling and falling precipitously,
00:01:55.900 at least with those on the right-hand side of the spectrum. People who had accommodated themselves
00:02:01.900 to the new reality of gay marriage are suddenly rejecting it. Why? What's going on? Well,
00:02:07.540 I don't think it's the L, the G, or the B part of the traditional acronym LGBT. It's the T.
00:02:15.500 It's the transgenderism. And it's not just transgenderism in itself, which used to be an
00:02:20.820 oddity or a quirk, something like Bruce Jenner converting himself to Caitlyn Jenner. I think it's
00:02:27.480 the unique focus of the T in the LGBT to focus on kids. And that the locus, the battlefront,
00:02:37.560 the front line of this political crusade is not in gay bars. It's not in gay pride parades, but rather,
00:02:46.000 it's in schools with children. And not just in high school either, but younger, elementary school,
00:02:52.980 even as young as kindergarten. When you have children's story hour, read by drag queens,
00:03:00.440 you've shifted the ground. It's no longer about equality because we don't have, say, heterosexual
00:03:08.680 strippers or other sex workers going into schools, reading books about sexual things.
00:03:14.680 We don't talk about sexual things to kids. That's an ancient taboo that has been broken. And with it,
00:03:21.760 the hard-fought support that the gay movement has finally received from some elements of the
00:03:28.240 conservative movement. I guess what I'm saying is, this is a controversy, even though the establishment
00:03:34.240 is united in support of the T in the LGBT. And if you think that I'm exaggerating, if you think that
00:03:40.700 I'm fear-mongering, you simply have to look and listen to what LGBT activists say.
00:03:50.260 Here's a recent parade in New York's Central Park where they tell you their plans.
00:03:55.020 Well, what is happening in response to the sexualization of children? Joining us now to talk
00:04:21.780 about it is our friend Barbara Kay, columnist for the Epoch Times and other places, and co-author of
00:04:27.020 a book on transgenderism and what it's doing to women's sports called Unsporting. Barbara, great to
00:04:32.460 see you again. Lovely to be here, Ezra. Thanks for having me. You know, I think that the conservative
00:04:39.620 movement had made its peace with gay rights. And even Christian conservatives, I think, if there was a
00:04:48.820 moral battle to be fought, I don't think it was on gay rights in general or even gay marriage.
00:04:55.600 But I think that the sexualization of children and the deliberate keeping that away from parents,
00:05:04.300 I think that's a bridge too far, not just for conservatives, but I think for severely normal
00:05:09.280 people who don't even consider themselves political. What do you think?
00:05:12.880 Well, I think you're quite right that the T and the Q, which are now interchangeable because
00:05:20.740 the transgender movement is a function of, it's a subset of the queer movement. Yes, they definitely
00:05:28.960 have in mind to normalize sexuality that no traditional minded person would ever sanction. And they are
00:05:42.000 definitely getting into the minds. Getting into the minds of young children is something that I agree
00:05:50.320 with you that has caused support for LGB to drop because they will not disassociate themselves from the
00:06:00.720 T and the Q. And these taboos are being broken routinely and they're being presented as if you don't
00:06:08.000 support this, then you are a bigot or you're hateful or you're right wing or you're whatever. But
00:06:14.720 normalizing children's awareness and being in sort of inaugurated or initiated into what used to be
00:06:24.240 the mysteries of sexuality, which should remain a mystery to four year olds and five year olds and six
00:06:31.280 year olds, they consider it, they frame it in the, in tropes of it's child's right to know. It's a child's right to
00:06:42.880 know about sexual pleasure. It's a child's right to, you know, be engaged in all this, this whole, like they, they, they, they
00:06:51.760 frame it as they're doing the kids a favor. So, and also in terms of diversity and inclusion, when they present that
00:06:57.280 drag queen story hour, you know, if you're against these grotesque parodies of women, uh, you know,
00:07:05.600 interacting these male grotesque parodies of children interacting and sometimes touching, uh, with
00:07:12.960 children or having them touch, oh, would you like to touch my hair? Would you like to touch my dress?
00:07:17.360 Um, it's, it's, it's a way of, uh, uh, uh, uh, getting children to drop their, their natural
00:07:26.080 diffidence in the presence of strangers and to sort of, you know, to keep their distance from, um,
00:07:34.000 phenomena that, that don't seem, or that, that they're, they're a little nervous around. Uh, so they
00:07:39.920 wanted the kids to get very accustomed to being in this presence and to consider the sexual, uh, the
00:07:46.800 sexualized content of these, some of these stories, uh, to be, you know, quite normal,
00:07:52.080 you know, look at the drag queen, go swish, swish, swish with the, you know, the hip, like all of that
00:07:57.280 is people say it's grooming. It is grooming. And of course they get very angry when you say that
00:08:02.480 because, uh, and then they label you a hateful transphobe, but I don't care anymore.
00:08:08.000 Mm-hmm. I mean, even the LGBT, let's just talk about that for one moment.
00:08:12.880 L is lesbian, gay, G is gay. Both of those are, I guess you could call them sexual orientations.
00:08:22.400 T is not an orientation. T is, uh, transgender. It's how you express how you look and, and what you
00:08:32.640 call yourself. It's got nothing to do with your, your sexuality, actually. Um, you know, I remember
00:08:39.840 when Ontario said there are now six genders and I challenged people, and by the way, this is law
00:08:45.840 under Doug Ford, the conservative premier. And I challenge everyone to name me the six genders.
00:08:51.280 Gay is not a gender. Homosexual, gay, lesbian, those are not genders. It's just sexual.
00:08:57.840 Yeah. Yeah. They're all sex related. They're all biology related. And now comes along queer and
00:09:03.520 transgender, which are, uh, which, which are theories that have to do with, um, uh, gender
00:09:09.680 mysticism. I call it because it's like, you know, your true self and it's, it's, it's totally unrelated
00:09:15.680 to sex. And, uh, so it's the exact opposite of what LGB strived for, which was to have their,
00:09:21.520 uh, their, uh, their biology rooted sexuality, um, endorsed as normal. Um, and, and they got that.
00:09:29.120 Now you've got Q and T demanding, uh, that we endorse stuff that we don't consider normal.
00:09:37.360 And we also consider, uh, anti, uh, or opposed to the rights of women and gays and lesbians, uh,
00:09:48.160 because some of their theories are actively conflict with the very, you know, with biological
00:09:55.200 certainties that are at the root of the rest of us. You know, the other day I heard a speech
00:10:00.960 by Dennis Kavanaugh of the London based gay men's network. He said that the whole transgender movement
00:10:06.480 is anti-gay. He said it was a war on gay men. He said, you don't even hear about gay rights anymore.
00:10:14.000 Or he said that gay men are now put on a track to be carved up physically. That, that, uh, it's to
00:10:24.960 take everyone who is either gay or lesbian or confused. And sometimes when you're a teenager,
00:10:32.160 it's a confusing time. You've got to sort of thing. Are you a tomboy? Are you a little effeminate?
00:10:36.880 You're figuring things out. It's tough to be a kid. Puberty's tough. And, and what he said,
00:10:43.120 and I had never heard it put that way before so forcefully is instead of letting people
00:10:48.640 be confused or be a tomboy or even being gay or whatever, you're taking them and you're doing
00:10:53.920 irreversible medical things to them. And, and he called it a war on gay men, a war on young gay
00:11:01.680 people. I had never heard it expressed that way before, but he's right. You never hear about gay
00:11:07.200 rights anymore. Maybe it's because, uh, in law and in society, gay rights have been achieved,
00:11:13.360 I suppose. But he, he saw it as not just an interesting add on LGB and T. He thought that the
00:11:21.120 T was a threat to the G. But I think it's also, yeah, it is. It is. I agree that it is an assault on gay
00:11:30.480 men because, uh, they, they fasten their attention a lot on effeminate boys, most of whom would grow up
00:11:37.920 to be gay if they're left alone. And they encourage them to think of themselves as maybe, you know,
00:11:43.120 they're in the wrong body and they, they really want to be, uh, girls. Uh, but at the same time,
00:11:48.480 it's also very anti-lesbian. I've, I find the whole trans movement to be like a kind of, uh,
00:11:56.320 an inverse of, of the men's rights movements that, that were actually bona fide and they were
00:12:02.080 actually campaigning for rights that they deserved, like equal parenting rights and all kinds of,
00:12:08.240 they were, they were up, up upright men, good men. And I supported those movements. Um, but now we have
00:12:16.080 a movement of men that really don't like women because they want to be women. They know they're not
00:12:24.240 women. They they're angry at real women for insisting that real women have rights that trans women should
00:12:32.880 not have. And they call them TERFs. And, uh, they're very, some of them are very abusive, uh, and very
00:12:41.120 angry. And especially at lesbians who theoretically, the queer theory tells them that if you're a lesbian,
00:12:47.440 that you should be happy to, um, have a relationship with a trans woman, because really your attraction
00:12:56.000 is not to their body, but to their gender, which is gender woo, you know, for, are you nuts? Uh,
00:13:04.320 it is biological. You're, you know, lesbians are lesbians because they are attracted to women's bodies.
00:13:09.920 Um, it couldn't be more clear, but then they get angry at the, I mean, they have, look, they have a
00:13:16.240 delusion. They have this fantasy. They want everybody to, to, uh, assent and affirm their
00:13:22.880 delusion. Uh, the people that won't do it are, you know, naturally they're transphobic. Uh, all I can
00:13:29.440 say is, uh, dress how you want the same as JK Rowling, dress how you want, sleep with who you want,
00:13:35.280 live your life, but don't compel me or any lesbian or any gay person to enter into your fantasy that
00:13:43.600 gayness or lesbianism is about gender rather than sex. And I think that most people were that live
00:13:50.720 and let live, you know, there's gay bars. I don't think that there would be a movement to have a vice
00:13:57.680 squad raid a gay bar or whatever, which may have happened a generation or two ago.
00:14:04.800 because those are adult spaces and people know what's going on there. It's, it's, uh, but,
00:14:10.400 but to take the locus, the place of this movement and put it in schools is, I think that's what's
00:14:17.920 waking people up. Let me read to you a recent headline from the Toronto star. And I think this
00:14:24.080 is just crazy. Parents staff demand Toronto district school board, drop drag queen story
00:14:32.240 time, opt out, not drag, not drop the story time, drop the ability to opt out. The board is standing
00:14:40.720 firm. Several sources told the star that the opt out was linked to and justified under the
00:14:46.000 province's sex ed curriculum, which allows students in grades one to eight to take part in alternative
00:14:51.760 activities. Let me just read one or two lines from this. And I'd love your, your response, Barbara.
00:14:57.360 Parents and staff are demanding that the Toronto district school board stop allowing students to
00:15:01.440 opt out of drag queen story time events. Like right there. That's crazy. A parent is demanding that
00:15:07.120 other parents not be allowed to choose. So like keep your own kids in if you want, but you're demanding
00:15:15.120 that he and she be forced to attend. Toronto PFLAG and the board's 2SLGBTQ plus community advisory
00:15:23.280 committee have been advocating unsuccessfully for weeks since the issue of attendance and
00:15:28.000 consent wrote at a pride celebration at Bruce public school in early June. They say the opt out
00:15:33.200 violates the Ontario human rights code and are calling for an apology for the harm caused by the
00:15:39.360 decision. I won't read more, but it's just so crazy to me. And you know, there was a story CTV
00:15:46.080 covered it. I think the CBC did also. There are schools in Canada, some in Ottawa, some in Toronto,
00:15:52.000 and Mississauga for sure, where 50, 60, 70, 80% of the student population is Muslim. And there were
00:16:01.200 schools when they had pride events where 80% of the kids were kept home. Now, obviously,
00:16:08.400 these schools in Toronto where they're having this battle are not that way. But this is becoming an
00:16:13.760 issue for the Muslim community, which I think didn't have a lot to say about gay bars and gay
00:16:20.080 things when they were in adult places. But now that they're coming to the schools, I think it's a
00:16:25.440 it's a five alarm fire for the gay for the Muslim community.
00:16:29.120 I think it is. And look, they wouldn't. I mean, it also is for the Christian community,
00:16:34.480 you know, for Christians, who nobody pays any attention to them, they don't care.
00:16:38.960 But they do care about Muslims, because that's, you know, one of their intersectional groups.
00:16:46.480 It should be a five alarm fire for for anybody that look, if you wanted to make every kid in
00:16:51.760 class recite the Lord's Prayer, you'd see a real five alarm fire. You know, parents say I want to
00:16:59.440 opt out and they'd opt out and everybody would say, of course, you you you can opt out that that's a
00:17:03.840 religious thing. Well, drag queen story hour is now a religious thing like these, these these drag
00:17:11.120 queens are now kind of holy figures, you know, and they have to be treated like they're,
00:17:17.760 there's some kind of very sacred people who are coming to educate the kids. Why don't they I mean,
00:17:24.560 nobody cared when they stayed in their bars. Drag queens have a very raunchy, very sex laden brand.
00:17:34.720 And suddenly they're they're just harmless. You know, like, why? What is this? What is this
00:17:43.280 fascination with these, with these, with these drag queens? I know, I think I know what it is,
00:17:50.400 but not to let parents opt out from it when it's, they are obviously associated with sexuality of an
00:17:59.120 extremely specific kind. This is, we're in La La Land on this issue.
00:18:06.160 You know, 60 years ago, Bob Hope told a joke, and it was really funny at the time.
00:18:11.600 I don't know if you ever heard of it. He said, it's now homosexuality is now legal in California,
00:18:20.400 he said. He said, I want to leave before it becomes mandatory. I mean, that, that's sort of a Bob Hope
00:18:28.400 type joke, a little bit dry, a little bit corny. And in the 60s, that was actually funny and a little
00:18:35.360 edgy, but also gay friendly. But that joke is not a joke anymore. You cannot opt out. You can't take
00:18:43.680 your kids. A drag queen is coming to school. There's nothing educational about a drag queen. It's a
00:18:49.120 sexualization of children. And no, you cannot leave. It's mandatory. You mentioned the holy status of
00:18:55.920 these, basically, they're strippers. I mean, take the, take the gender out of it. Would you be fine
00:19:01.520 if strippers were coming to say, hey, let's twerk. Let me show you how I use my stripper pull. People
00:19:06.400 would say, what are you doing? Why are you sexualizing children? But because they have,
00:19:12.720 you know, because it's in the name of queer, as opposed to heterosexual, it's, it's, you're right,
00:19:19.520 it's become like a holy thing. But you mentioned, you mentioned the word twerk, which recalls to me,
00:19:24.640 there is a drag queen, I forget the name, he goes by. And his routine is, he does a whole
00:19:32.720 shtick in front of the kids, teaching them how to twerk. And he reads a story to them,
00:19:38.640 I think that he wrote maybe, I don't know, about an Olympic twerker. And what is a twerker?
00:19:45.360 And he shows, he demonstrates, like he's dressed up, of course, like, like, you know, and,
00:19:50.480 and he sort of does the twerking motion. He says, look, you just make your bum go up and down like
00:19:54.960 this. Well, it's, twerking is an action that simulates sexual intercourse. And he's laughing
00:20:02.800 and doing twerk, twerk, twerk, and encouraging the kids to imitate him. And then reading this story
00:20:09.040 about the Olympic twerker who had, for some reason, couldn't go to the, I don't know, whatever it was.
00:20:14.080 And all these parents, this is now considered family friendly entertainment. And these parents,
00:20:20.160 I think I saw the audience for that one. There were parents there laughing, clapping. Honestly,
00:20:28.160 Ezra, it, this whole gender woo thing, we're now in a kind of stage where people like you and me and
00:20:39.840 other people that kind of get it, we're looking around and saying, what, what do you, do you not
00:20:46.640 see like, and, and, and we're, I don't know, I feel I, I just wish these Muslim parents would like,
00:20:54.480 continue their, people have to listen to them. So I wish they would continue with their campaign.
00:21:00.320 Um, and, um, you know, start leading other parents to understand this is about, it's not so much having
00:21:10.320 sex. These people aren't encouraging the five-year-olds to have sex. They're encouraging
00:21:17.680 them to have their, in their mind, the idea that sex at any age, or thinking about sex, or wanting sex,
00:21:27.440 or wanting to know more about it is natural and normal. And this is called grooming. This is
00:21:35.040 grooming. It's what pedophiles do.
00:21:38.400 That was always called, oh, that's a slippery slope. That'll never happen. It is happening with
00:21:43.360 the vengeance. Um, the Muslim community I mentioned before, they're starting to speak out. I think for
00:21:49.280 various reasons, they haven't spoken out so far. First of all, there are a lot of Muslim schools in
00:21:55.200 Canada now. And so kids are either homeschooled, or put in these Muslim schools. And I can assure
00:22:01.280 you there's no drag queen story hour in those schools. But there, I mean, there are some Muslims,
00:22:07.920 and maybe because they're largely newcomers to Canada, and the countries they may have come from,
00:22:14.480 you don't protest against the government. That's too risky. That's too dangerous. So there may be some
00:22:19.120 cultural or historical reasons why you don't see Muslim. And by the way, I think they're not in the
00:22:25.360 same social circles. They're not in the same peer group. So I think there's been a lot of reasons why
00:22:31.920 Muslim families have not protested. That's changing. In the United States, Asra Nomani is a progressive
00:22:38.080 Muslim woman who's leading a lot of school protests. We saw it in Ottawa. And let me play for you a clip.
00:22:43.600 This was recorded on a cell phone, where Justin Trudeau, I think this is in Calgary. He was in a
00:22:52.320 mosque and talking one-on-one with a Muslim man who was very carefully putting his objections forward.
00:22:58.880 Let's play a few minutes of this. I don't know if we're going to play the whole thing,
00:23:01.840 but here's Justin Trudeau in a mosque talking to a Muslim man about the T in LGBT. And it's very
00:23:12.080 revealing. Here, let's take a look. Let's watch this together, Barbara. And then I'd love your
00:23:15.600 thoughts on it afterwards. Let's take a look.
00:23:16.960 Please protect our beliefs and our culture as well, the same that you are doing for them.
00:23:26.080 So this is where we're coming from. I know, and I've heard this concern many, many times,
00:23:30.720 and I know that it is a very real issue. First of all, there is an awful lot of misinformation and
00:23:37.440 disinformation. People on social media, particularly fueled by the American right
00:23:43.040 rate, are spreading a lot of untruths about what's actually in the provincial curriculum.
00:23:51.520 Like, the federal government doesn't control what's taught in schools. That's the provincial
00:23:55.760 government that controls what's taught in schools. So that's not something that is directly on the
00:24:01.120 federal government. But at the same time, the federal government is unequivocal of standing
00:24:06.400 up for everybody's rights and freedoms. And the highest expression of parental rights is,
00:24:12.640 of course, the safety and well-being of the child. Your concern as a community is for the safety,
00:24:18.240 the well-being, the strength and the protection for your children. I entirely understand that.
00:24:24.720 The one thing that is really, really important in Canada is the workplace that stands up for
00:24:33.520 everybody's rights. And certainly, when it comes to the Muslim community, this government has,
00:24:39.920 well, we were the government that pushed back against the conservatives that, you know, made a
00:24:44.880 campaign against the NICAP, that brought in a snitch line against Muslims. You know, the Islamophobia
00:24:52.400 we absolutely have to stand behind and stand against. The issue, though,
00:25:22.640 is that the charter of rights and freedoms that protects your religion, gives you the freedom
00:25:28.480 of religion that allows you to fully participate in the society, give you all protections, protects
00:25:34.000 all minorities as well. And it's not a buffet. You can't pick the protections you want out of the
00:25:40.000 charter and leave aside others. Standing up for people's rights means standing up for everybody's
00:25:45.760 sex. Now, if you look at the various curriculums, you'll see that there is not what is being said out
00:25:53.760 there about aggressive teaching or conversion of kids to being LGBT. That is something that is being
00:26:02.560 weaponized by people who are not doing it because of their interest in supporting the Muslim community.
00:26:09.600 These are people in the far right who are consistently stood against Muslim rights in the Muslim community.
00:26:15.360 But they are weaponizing the issue of LGBT, which is something that, yes, Islam has
00:26:21.920 has strong opinions on it. The same way that the religious right in Canada, the Christian right has
00:26:29.520 strong opinions against as well. They're using those fears to drive a wedge between
00:26:36.800 a government that will always stand up for all their rights, just like I will always stand up for the
00:26:44.080 rights of LGBT kids, including if they're LGBT Muslim kids. And not standing up for everyone's rights is
00:26:53.440 what you get with the Liberal government. We're going to defend your rights even when you disagree with
00:27:00.640 us depending on other people's rights. And how we work together as a country and listen to each other and
00:27:06.880 prevent people from activating baseless fears around lies and around, as you said, scaring your parents
00:27:16.880 into what's actually being taught, that is hurting the fabric of respect and openness that allows Canada
00:27:25.760 to be one of the places where we support and defend the Muslim community more than just about any other
00:27:31.120 West Asian country in the world. And we appreciate that very much. But probably a perfect example is
00:27:37.360 what we saw in one of the admitting schools, when one of the teachers, she's threatened and she told
00:27:43.600 those kids, you are not a Canadian, you should leave Canada because you did not participate in Pride.
00:27:51.200 And what happened to that teacher? Whatever you want to say, just tell them how you feel.
00:27:54.960 She just vanished and nobody knows about that. That's true. That teacher got serious consequences
00:28:00.560 because that is not, that is not something that is acceptable. This is why we need the government,
00:28:04.560 this is why we need the government to come out and say we do not support that, we do not accept that.
00:28:10.000 That is, that is, our, our, the federal government doesn't control what happens to teachers in
00:28:17.120 the system. But it is, does not represent my position or the federal government's position
00:28:24.640 that people need to be chastised for their religious beliefs. People are free to have their
00:28:30.560 religious beliefs. But within all that, we have to make sure we are standing up and defending
00:28:37.200 everyone's rights within the community. And that includes the right to be who you are and to love
00:28:42.320 whom you love. Understood. And that, I know you feel, I know your parents' generation might have a
00:28:47.920 little more uncertainty about that. And that's where this generation and your kids' generation can,
00:28:53.920 you know, show that look, the, the cost or the, what comes, the responsibility that comes with
00:29:00.560 being in a free country that stands up for everyone's rights is that we will stand up for everyone's
00:29:07.120 rights, including people from the LGBT community who are facing increasing levels of violence and
00:29:13.200 hatred at the same time as the Muslim community is facing increasing levels of violence and hatred,
00:29:19.680 at the same time as, as the Asian community is facing, like we, the world is going in the wrong
00:29:25.040 direction. The one thing we don't need right now is for communities that are facing hatred to start
00:29:32.080 turning on each other, rather than figure out how to support each other, how to listen, how to
00:29:37.520 understand each other and work together. That's what Canada is. And it's not easy, and it, and it
00:29:43.200 causes clashes in cultures. But when it comes right down to it, the ability to stand up for
00:29:50.560 everyone's rights is what leaves Canada the freest and the most successful country. I appreciate that.
00:29:57.920 Thank you. Prime Minister. Thank you. Prime Minister. That was a pretty good automatic transcript that
00:30:04.160 came on the TikTok screen there. It wasn't perfect. And the audio was obviously a noisy room, but I think
00:30:12.000 it was clear most of what was said there. Let me just recap a few points that I thought were interesting.
00:30:18.160 Trudeau said several times that this was misinformation and disinformation by the American
00:30:27.360 right, by the Christian right, by people in the far right. He said that about four times. And he said
00:30:36.320 that the people who are saying these things about what's going on in schools are actually anti-Muslims,
00:30:43.280 so don't trust them. He said that, he said accurately that these schools are local decision makers.
00:30:53.920 In Canada, schools are not run by the feds. But you could see he has a lot to say about defending
00:31:00.560 LGBTQ rights. And he's implying, I think, he didn't actually ever deal with the issue,
00:31:08.960 I've been repeating about 20 times, we protect everyone's rights. Well, what rights is he talking
00:31:14.000 about? The rights of parents to pull their kids out? He said that protecting children was the most
00:31:21.040 important thing. But he didn't express how that would be manifested. He basically said the same
00:31:32.080 thing of that Edmonton teacher they referred to. I don't know if you know what that is. There was an
00:31:36.080 Edmonton school teacher who was exasperated by Muslim kids mocking gay pride and said, hey,
00:31:42.720 we supported you on Ramadan, you got to support us in Pride Week, or you're not a true Canadian. That's
00:31:48.400 what the teacher said, and she got in trouble. And Trudeau said, well, look at the consequences to
00:31:52.160 her. But that's sort of what Trudeau said, too. The rights are not a buffet. We all have to support
00:31:57.840 each other. We can't turn on each other. He said that. He said they're trying to wedge us against each
00:32:03.200 other, those American right people. I thought it was interesting that he was so pro-LGBT in a mosque with
00:32:12.960 a Muslim. In fact, I had some respect for Trudeau that he didn't just absolutely pander and say,
00:32:18.640 yeah, it doesn't really apply to you guys. No, he was right there in the mosque saying it.
00:32:23.680 But he basically said, don't believe your lying eyes. There's nothing untoward going on. That's
00:32:31.840 just far-right Christian, far-right conservative, far-right Americans lying to you. And you'd better
00:32:38.640 protect LGBTQ because that's the Canadian deal. That's a very interesting exchange.
00:32:45.680 What's your takeaway of that? We watched a few minutes of that, but I think it was worth watching.
00:32:49.600 What do you think, Barbara? I agree with you that he did a lot of, first of all, what struck me was
00:32:55.760 that he's talking to this parent, but the parent got in like 10 words, and then Trudeau was off for
00:33:04.320 five solid minutes of rambling around about how the previous government was Islamophobic,
00:33:09.840 not like our government. And our government was the one that did this for you, and our government
00:33:13.440 was the one that did that for you. So basically, his message was, you know, we're the good guys.
00:33:22.160 And then, as you say, oh, don't believe all the misinformation, those American style
00:33:28.560 disinformation, what he's really talking about, who parents who have legitimate concerns
00:33:34.880 and have raised them are now like the American far-right, which of course, if you use those
00:33:42.000 words, American far-right, it immediately, it's like one of those, you know, buzzwords,
00:33:46.880 trigger words that, oh yeah, no, no, we're not like the American far-right at all.
00:33:50.400 It was so full of political gobbledygook. And then this, we have to support each other's rights.
00:34:01.360 Well, what did he mean? Does he think that during Ramadan, we all have to fast? Is that what would
00:34:08.480 that support? I mean, the correct analogy to you have to go to pride parades, and you have to do this,
00:34:14.640 the correct analogy, if we're going to support Muslims, if we expect Muslim children to take
00:34:21.120 part in pride activities, then I guess that, you know, we should, Muslims should expect
00:34:29.040 the kids to fast on Ramadan. I mean, that's the analogy. Support for Ramadan only means,
00:34:36.160 yeah, you have the right to have your customs and your rituals, and we support that. But
00:34:44.240 you don't actually expect us to go to the mosque during Ramadan, do you? No,
00:34:47.680 of course they don't. But we, but that's not what pride is asking of these children.
00:34:53.840 When they say you can't opt out of Drag Queen Story Hour, they are saying you must attend our
00:35:00.800 church service if you are going to support our church, because it is like a religion.
00:35:07.680 So I don't see any analogy between what's going on in the schools and how, you know, Muslims should
00:35:15.200 understand that the rights are equal, that their rights are being respected, and therefore they
00:35:21.360 have to. No, I think the ask is very, very different. And he didn't even get near that, like he didn't.
00:35:27.600 Yeah, you make the point that's, the largest point is, it was not a conversation. It was a,
00:35:34.880 it was a baffle gab lecture, where he said far right about five times, and he said,
00:35:41.920 you, you can't pick and choose which charter rights, which is quite something from the man
00:35:47.360 who banned unvaccinated people from airlines and trains and said, should we even tolerate them?
00:35:53.840 I always think it's a bit rich when Justin Trudeau starts talking about rights, the man who brought in
00:35:58.800 the War Measures Act because some truckers were honking. But I wonder what he, what, if he was
00:36:06.080 ever pressed, what he would say an LGBTQ2SL plus right is. Because it's like when people say,
00:36:16.160 I have the right not to be offended. No, that's not a real thing. That's a counterfeit human right.
00:36:22.160 What you really are talking about is the power to silence someone. There's no right not to be
00:36:28.480 offended. When you say that, you're just using trickery. You want the power to silence someone.
00:36:33.760 So what right is he talking about? The right to be free from violence? We all have that right,
00:36:38.560 thank God. The right to express yourself? We all have that right. In students, that right may be limited
00:36:46.400 in some ways. But if he's saying that it is a human right that someone else's kid must endure
00:36:56.400 a drag queen story, that ain't a right anymore. That's a power that the state or the school or
00:37:03.040 this cult has over families. So he's using the baffle gab language of the charter. And I don't
00:37:09.120 even think he's read the document. I don't think he's read the charter of rights in 20 years because
00:37:14.400 he doesn't understand it. It's to limit the government's power. It's not to force a parent
00:37:19.760 to do anything. The charter of rights doesn't apply to a parent. The charter of rights limits
00:37:24.880 what the government can do. And the government is doing something without parents' kids.
00:37:29.040 But I mean, the issue is one of parental rights. He did not address that. And he did allude to the fact
00:37:37.760 that like the Christian right, Islam does have an issue with, you know, LGBT. And then he sort of
00:37:47.200 glossed right over that and went on to other stuff. But the fact is that if parents do not want their
00:37:54.560 children educated at a tender age in sex ed that goes beyond, you know, here are the parts of the body.
00:38:03.840 And now let's go back to our arithmetic lesson. You know, uh, they don't want the kids getting into
00:38:10.400 gender woo. They do not want them to be told there are 18 genders and that who knows, maybe you're one
00:38:18.080 of these other genders instead of being a real boy or, and there's no such thing as real boys or real
00:38:22.240 girls. They don't want that. And they have a right not to want that. And they have a right. This is an
00:38:26.480 ideology. This is not science. They're not being taught science. Sex ed should be about biology,
00:38:33.120 evolutionary biology, and later on about, you know, about reproduction and yada, yada stuff that's
00:38:40.400 actual science. None of what they're teaching in, in the gender courses have anything to do with
00:38:47.040 science. It's all to do with a belief system, same as any other religion, but this entitlements
00:38:53.280 sense to children and access to children's minds that other religions do not have. Uh,
00:38:59.600 so other than to be told, oh, today is, you know, uh, Yom Kippur, uh, what is that about? You know,
00:39:06.480 maybe one of our Jewish students can tell us like, that's a very different thing from teaching.
00:39:12.320 There are many genders and sex isn't real. Like that's quite a different thing.
00:39:17.040 Well, there is so much to talk about here. And unfortunately, I think this issue is going to be
00:39:20.960 with us for years to come. Uh, the, uh, guest today, what a pleasure to see her again as Barbara
00:39:26.720 Kay and her latest article in the Epoch Times, which I highly recommend. I have two subscriptions
00:39:31.920 to the Epoch Times, believe it or not. It's called when they say we're coming for your children,
00:39:38.640 believe them. Well, that's our show for today until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at rebel
00:39:44.800 world headquarters to you at home. Good night and keep fighting for freedom.