EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau considers non-combat deployment of Canadian troops to Ukraine
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Justin Trudeau considers sending the Canadian military to Ukraine. Is it the right thing to do, or is it just posturing for domestic politics? Ezra explains why he thinks it might be a good idea, and why it s a bad idea.
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Hello, my friends. I have a crazy story that I had not heard of until I came upon it on TikTok,
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of all places. And I bet you haven't heard of it either. Maybe you're more worldly than me.
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But did you know that a bunch of German Air Force generals had a meeting to plan an attack
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on a Russian bridge by firing 20 German cruise missiles against it? And we know this because
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their conversation was recorded and leaked. I'm going to tell you this insane story and how it
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could cause World War III. But first, I want to get you to subscribe to what we call Rebel News Plus.
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That's the video version of this podcast. I want to show you the reaction to this story in Germany
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and in Russia. I don't think you've heard the story on the CBC. They don't want to talk about it.
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Tonight, Justin Trudeau considers sending the Canadian military to Ukraine. How do you think
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that's going to end? It's March 5th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Lots of domestic Canadian news these days. It's always more important, isn't it?
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I'm appalled by what's happening in the Middle East, but I care much more about what is happening in our
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streets in Canada, don't you? Sometimes talking about foreign policy is like a luxury good.
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If you have time to do that, it's a sign that everything else in your life must be pretty good.
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I mean, if you ask the average college student their opinion on Ukraine or Gaza,
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they'd probably give you a very forceful and passionate answer that they've heard their peers
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say. But if you showed them a blank map and asked them to point to either country, do you actually
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think they could find it? You know, we should do that test to find out. Foreign policy is more real
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in other countries, like in Israel, where they're constantly under threat, where conscription is a
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fact, wars and terrorism, a regular occurrence. And even in the United States, because their military
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really is a kind of global police force, for better or worse. As in, they're not just debating
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things in abstraction. If there's a world problem, odds are real U.S. soldiers are going there to fix
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it. Whereas here in Canada, I think we've just become voyeurs, especially compared to our history
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of punching above our weight. Look at this picture here. Have you seen this? I still find it remarkable
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to know that for nearly 30 years, Canada had an aircraft carrier, a major, massive capital ship.
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After World War II, we had the third largest navy in the world. It's unthinkable now that we have or
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that we either have or do something or say something momentous and strategic, something that would put us
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in the first rank like an aircraft carrier would. I really don't think people around the world even
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think of Canada anymore. And if they think of Trudeau, they scoff. Trudeau puts on a good show
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when it comes to foreign affairs, but it's just a show. For him, it's all just posturing for domestic
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politics mainly. I mean, he's given up on his dream of getting in the security council or whatever he
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wanted to do there. It's pretty obvious that he's just thinking about the diaspora of foreigners in
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Canada. That's what he's doing with his support for Hamas terrorism. He can count and he knows there
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are about five times as many Muslims in Canada as there are Jews and he wants their vote and he's willing to
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denounce Israel to do it. But that applies to other diaspora groups in Canada, too. It's why he's so soft on
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the People's Republic of China and their influence buying and their election interference and their
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industrial espionage. I mean, there is no possible good reason for hiding the details of the Chinese spies who stole the
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Ebola virus from us or whatever they did, other than to hide the Liberal government's corruption and avoid
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having to criticize Xi Jinping. And I think what's motivating Trudeau when it comes to his over-the-top
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comments about Ukraine, it's the same thing, Ukrainian-Canadian voters. I think obviously that
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Chrystia Freeland is a driving force for a lot of that, but I think Trudeau believes speeches like this
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one will lock in the Ukrainian-Canadian vote for him. I don't think this is actually a foreign affairs
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speech. I think it's a domestic affairs speech. Remember this?
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The stakes are high for Ukrainians. The stakes are high for all of us around the world.
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This is a moment where we define ourselves for the rest of the 21st century. Did we stand up against
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authoritarianism? Did we stand up against those who choose to break the rules around the world? Do we
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stand up for what is right? We are Canadian. Of course we're going to stand up for what's right.
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Just don't look too closely at whether or not he keeps his promises to Ukraine. Many of the major
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weapons systems Trudeau says he'd give to Ukraine, they simply haven't gone over there. Either Canada
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doesn't have them or they're not in a suitable condition to actually be used or there are problems
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shipping them and training them. You might even say he's lying to Ukrainian-Canadians, just playing
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them for fools like he plays every group for fools. But like I said a moment ago, foreign policy is a
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luxury good when we're in a recession, which we are on a per capita basis. What I mean is Trudeau is
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bringing in a million people a year to Canada, which sort of juices the economy in a big picture,
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but it hides the fact that individually we're all sort of getting poorer on an individual basis. So
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people are worried about housing prices and groceries and price of gas and crime and traffic,
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et cetera. Talking about faraway countries and faraway battles is something you do when you can
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afford good housing and schools, not when you can't. But what can change foreign policy from a
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philosophical abstract debate to something that is very, very real is when a country moves from talk
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to actually going to war. Now we haven't done that in decades. We sent an enormous force to Afghanistan
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and we suffered over 150 deaths and countless wounded. Since then, our country's military
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readiness has plummeted. Our recruitment numbers are way down, partly because of the requirement to
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get the jab. Our equipment and weapons are old and technologically outdated. We're not a serious
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military country anymore. We're not pulling our weight in NATO. So imagine saying this, look at this,
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this is an article in the Toronto Star a few days ago. Under the right conditions, Canada opened to
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sending non-combat troops to Ukraine, Defense Minister Bill Blair says. What's a non-combat troop,
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by the way? Here's the story. I'll just read the first line. Canada is open to sending a limited
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number of military personnel to train Ukrainian troops within Ukraine. So long as such an operation
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took place far from the front lines of the war with Russia in a clear non-combat role. Defense
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Minister Bill Blair says in an interview with the Star, Blair said the idea was discussed earlier this
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week in Paris, where he attended a security summit alongside Canada's NATO allies and fellow supporters
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of Ukraine. Now Trudeau has sent billions of dollars over tax money. He's promised billions of dollars worth
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of weapons, but it's doubtful many of them have actually been delivered. We can't even really get
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to NATO training exercises anymore, let alone a real war zone. So be very skeptical of Trudeau.
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Emmanuel Macron, the French president, they still do have a real army. He floated this idea of sending
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troops into Ukraine itself. Floated the idea a week or so ago and the U.S. immediately threw cold water
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on it. I mean, are you crazy? Well, just to be clear, we have no plans to send U.S. service members
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to fight in Ukraine. The president has been pretty clear on that and that continues to be our position.
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But look, Bill Blair is not a nobody. He's a senior Trudeau minister speaking to the most trusted senior
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liberal newspaper, the Toronto Star. And if he's talking about it in public, he wants to see how the
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idea is being received. He's testing it for a possible announcement, wouldn't you say? There's no way he would say
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such a thing as randomly. Now, it's one thing to send equipment, but actually sending Canadian
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troops into Ukraine proper. If we want to train Ukrainian troops, that can be done in Canada
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or in Poland or in the Baltics even. But to train them in a country where there is a hot war with
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Russia, where hundreds of people are being killed every day, why? Just for another press release for
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Justin Trudeau. What would Russia do if it saw Canadian troops in Ukraine when it was attacking
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an area? What do you think Russia would do? What do you think Putin's generals would do? Do you think
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they would stop shooting and say, whoa, don't shoot the Canadians? Or do you think they would continue
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on? Do you think they would shoot to kill? If our soldiers in uniforms were halfway around the world
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in a war zone, what do you think Putin would do? Do you think he would show mercy? Well,
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we can guess. Here's what Putin actually said to his parliament, the Duma, the other day,
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when this subject of Europeans and, I guess, Canada putting troops in Ukraine and using weapons
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and ways to expand the war. When this came up, take a listen.
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We talked about the possibility of sending in Ukraine to NATO's military
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contingents. But we remember the fate of those who once sent their contingents on the territory of our
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country. But now the consequences for possible interventions will be much more tragic. They also have
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weapons, they know about it. Now I've just said that there are weapons that can also
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defeat the goals on their territory. And what do they think now? What do they fear the whole world?
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That all this really causes conflict with the use of nuclear weapons, which means
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the destruction of civilization? Do they understand anything about this?
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Now, Ukraine is not part of NATO, which is a key fact, because NATO is a treaty, a contract really,
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amongst different countries. And the key article of that treaty is Article 5, which says an attack on
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one NATO member is legally an attack on all of them. And they all must rally to the aid of each other.
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So that doesn't apply to Ukraine. It's not in NATO. But what happens if French troops
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or Canadian troops in Ukraine are attacked, either on purpose or by accident or not knowingly by Russia,
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given that Russia is in a war there? And not to be too conspiratorial, but wouldn't Ukraine want
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that to happen in a kind of way to commit Western militaries to do the job that Ukraine's military is
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having an increasingly difficult time doing? It really doesn't make sense to add lots of little
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small countries to NATO from the point of view of strengthening the alliance. I mean, Luxembourg is
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an early member of NATO, but it's not really going to save the US or Canada or the UK in any war.
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Same could be said about the little countries of Finland and Sweden. Historically, they'd be neutral.
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They're not really allies in the sense that they're not bringing a lot of firepower to bear.
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They're more acting like tripwires, encircling Russia, a way to bring the rest of NATO countries
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into a war in a manner that was not done for Ukraine. But Ukraine is not in NATO putting
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Canadian or French troops into Ukraine to risk being attacked risks activating the NATO alliance
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against Russia. That is World War III. And that is nuts. Let me show you something even more insane.
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And I found this on TikTok, which is where I find all of my alternative news about Russia and China.
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I think I sample a lot of news from the right and the left, for and against every issue. But strangely
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enough, it's on the Chinese owned app, TikTok, that I get my anti-American propaganda. It's all
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over TikTok. Just think about what it's teaching young kids. I never trust anything I see on TikTok,
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but I use it like I use the website Wikipedia. It's a starting point to do my own research.
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And I heard about this crazy story on TikTok and I hadn't heard it anywhere else. And of course,
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I don't believe it until I check it. And wouldn't you know, my God, it's true. A group of high-ranking
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German Air Force generals had a lengthy meeting and they were talking about using long-range
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German cruise missiles called Taurus missiles to attack the strategic Russian bridge, the Kerch
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bridge that Russia built to link Crimea to Russia. This was after its 2014 invasion of Ukraine.
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It's the longest bridge in Russia. It's the most strategically important bridge. It's a
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national symbol. It's a bridge that Putin personally inaugurated. It's been attacked at least three
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times already during the war. Ukraine has claimed responsibility. The bridge is still operational.
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It's being repaired. And so Germany's Air Force generals had a long meeting to talk about sending 10
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or 20 Taurus cruise missiles at the bridge to blow it up. Germany was talking about doing that and how
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to do that and when to do that and what way to do that. Germany, which is not in a war with Russia,
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I thought. And if Russia hits back, what happens then? Is NATO Article 5 activated? If Germany,
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which is not at war at Russia, launches a bunch of missiles for Russia and Russia responds,
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does that pull the rest of us into a war? That is nuts. That is crazy. That is Armageddon stuff.
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But let me play for you some clips from German TV's English language broadcast. I don't know if you
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know, just like the BBC has foreign language, they have Persian language and French language. German TV
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has an English station outlet, English language outlet. They just heard, what, 38 minutes of
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recordings of Germans talking about attacking Russia. Something that really hadn't been heard
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since the Wehrmacht invaded the Soviet Union 80 plus years ago. And their number one concern was not,
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will the start of World War III, but who leaked it? Take a listen to this interview.
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DW's Brussels bureau chief, Alexandra von Naaman, is with the German chancellor in Rome.
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I asked her whether Olaf Scholz has given any more details about the leak.
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No, Olaf Scholz kept his cool here in Rome. We just got this one statement on the matter,
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a statement in which the German chancellor stressed that this, this is a serious matter that is being
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investigated. But then he went on with his program here in Rome. But of course we know that he also
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knows that he is facing uncomfortable questions at home, especially when it turns that it's true that
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this conversation among high ranking German officers was conducted not on a secret internal army network,
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but on the Webex platform, despite repeated warnings by Germany's intelligence services that Russia uses espionage
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and sabotage as part of its hybrid war. And we are already hearing from lawmakers in Germany,
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from lawmakers in the opposition, but also from members of the coalition that the German chancellor is leading,
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who are demanding consequences, saying that the incident has to be investigated,
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but that Germany also needs to increase its security and counterintelligence.
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So just how concerned are NATO countries about the extent of Russia's espionage activities? I mean,
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could this incident have been merely the tip of the iceberg?
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This is the big question. How much further does this go? And we'll have to wait and see, because frankly,
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as well, what we understand from some of the information, Der Spiegel, the German paper reported that actually
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this conversation between these senior German Air Force officials was recorded over an unsecure link via Webex.
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It wasn't a high secured intelligence link, according to their reporting. And that is very concerning,
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that such sensitive intelligence is being shared over there. And then that raises the question,
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how much more might have been recorded? What else can be said? Also in the recording,
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there was some discussion that perhaps the British could be involved in such a project around the Taurus missiles.
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The Brits are yet to comment as well. I think what we'll see is sort of real sense of intelligence
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damage limitation. The other countries do not want to be dragged into this. They want to keep it
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related and keep it focused on Germany, where the leak came from. I mean, I guess it is mildly
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interesting how this was wiretapped. It sounds like these German generals just used an unsecured version
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of Zoom called Webex for their chat, but that's not the main story here. I mean, it's an interesting detail,
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I guess. But the story is Germany was talking about attacking Russia, a nuclear armed adversary
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that is in the middle of a hot war. I had to scroll through interview after interview about this
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subject. Once TikTok sees you watching something, it serves up a lot more. The algorithm is powerful.
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I found a single German reporter who was talking about the sneak attack plan itself, not that it was leaked.
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What exactly were these German military officers talking about? Do we have more details
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about what was in these recordings? Yes, it's half an hour talk about the details of possible,
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just if possible, possible delivery of Taurus to the Ukraine, technical details, technical
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specifications, about how other countries already gave Ukraine the cruise missiles like UK and US
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doing this. It's mentioned that the Brits have people on the ground. It's the quote,
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it's like there are some, they have some guys on the ground in the Ukraine. And there's a talks
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about some American guys in the Ukraine as well. The German generals talking about people in civil
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clauses talking American accent. And then another one sensitive topic to the Russian public as well. It's
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a debate about how the bridge connecting Russia with the Crimea could be destroyed by Taurus, how many
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Taurus missiles would be needed for these 10 or 20s and further details. It's highly sensitive and highly
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explosive for Russian public opinion as well. What do you think of that? Like, what do you think of that plan?
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The Daily Beast newspaper thinks Russia is hysterical and had a meltdown over it. I mean, I guess,
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though Putin actually sounded pretty calm. I think by definition, if you're talking about lobbing
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20 cruise missiles against Russia to destroy their bridge, you're probably the ones who could be
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called hysterical or crazy. Do you really think Russia will do nothing in return? By the way,
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none of this has to do with morally right or morally wrong. I'm just talking about,
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do you really think you're going to throw 20 cruise missiles to blow up Vladimir Putin's
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favorite bridge in a part of Russia that has been annexed for about a decade? And you think
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he's not going to shoot back. And you're willing to test that theory. There was something called
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mutually assured destruction that kept the peace during the Cold War for decades. And look at the
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words, mutually assured destruction. The theory was, neither side will attack the other because they
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both know the retaliation would blow up the whole world. And now we have a group of German generals
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brainstorming how to attack Russia. And they're not even at war with Russia.
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Now, I think we're lucky in a way that Canada's military has been so denuded by Justin Trudeau.
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We don't have 20 Taurus missiles. We don't have any of them. We don't have 20 CF-18 jets that are in
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flying condition. We've canceled the annual NATO Air Force training exercises that used to happen
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in Cold Lake, Alberta. We just don't have enough of planes that can fly. And we can't keep up with
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the American F-35s or F-22s. So the only leaked conversation that could come from a Zoom call in
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Canada would be about deploying those tampon dispensers that Trudeau has put in men's washrooms
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on military bases. And Trudeau's made Canada a world leader in tampon dispensers in men's rooms.
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So that's where we lead. But look, this war, this war is not going well for Ukraine. Millions have
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fled the country. Millions have been annexed by Russia. Hundreds of thousands have died in a war.
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More civilians, even. The average age of Ukrainian conscripts is now in the 40s.
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A generation of the best men have been killed. Much of Ukraine lies in ruins.
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Hey, are you pro-Ukraine or are you anti-Ukraine if you want peace? Are you pro-Ukraine or are you
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anti-Ukraine if you want to avoid World War III or the killing of more Ukrainian soldiers or dragging
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Germany into the war? This could have been resolved 18 months ago, sounds like. Don't take it from
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Vladimir Putin, who said that a peace deal was hammered out 18 months ago, but that
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Boris Johnson nixed it. Remember this from the Tucker interview?
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So I just want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding what you're saying. I don't think that I am.
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I think you're saying you want a negotiated settlement to what's happening in Ukraine.
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Right. And we made it. We prepared the huge document in Istanbul that was initialed by the head of the
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Ukrainian delegation. He affixed his signature to some of the provisions. Not to all of it. He put his
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signature and then he himself said, we were ready to sign it and the war would have been over long ago,
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18 months ago. However, Prime Minister Johnson came, talked us out of it and we missed that chance.
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You don't have to believe him. That story was publicized a long time ago. Frankly,
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the Israelis broke the news. The Israelis were trying to broker a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia and
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had a deal until Boris Johnson was sent in to nix it. Is that good or bad for Ukraine?
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Now, you heard the man, Justin Trudeau, says he will stand with Ukraine until the end.
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I don't know what end that means or what standing with them means. Trudeau says things for a sound
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bite. I don't think he actually thinks things through much of the time. He can understand sending
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money over there and promising to send weapons. So I doubt he really delivers on those promises.
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That's just usual Trudeau stuff, photo ops and throwing around money. But his idea floated by Bill
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Blair to send actual Canadian troops to Ukraine. If he's serious, that could well be the worst
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single decision Trudeau has ever made. Luckily, he's probably already forgotten that he's made it.
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And he likely couldn't keep that promise, even if he did remember it. Stay with us for more.
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and people come up to you and you talk with them one-on-one. I'm guessing you've spoken to
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tens of thousands of people, even just for a moment, and some of them for as much as half an hour.
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Do you think I'm right, numerically? Yeah, I'd probably guess around 20,000.
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Some of these conversations are a minute, some have been an hour and a half even.
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Wow. And you film them, you have a camera on for your own safety, but also to record
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the moment to show others, right? That's right. And it's been very successful
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in helping to educate people all around the globe about how to speak about this,
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to educate them on it so that when they have the confidence to speak about this,
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they're more likely to speak about it. And we have all sorts of tremendous success
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happening all across the planet. Even here in Canada now, we have some successes to report on.
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Give me an example. I mean, I have a theory. You go to places, sometimes you go to university campuses
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where frankly, people aren't taught to be critical thinkers or they're not even taught about debating.
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There's sort of one narrative when you have to sign up for it. And I think a lot of these students
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who are very woke and who are very smart, by the way, and very attentive, they listen to what their
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teachers say. And then they encounter you and they've never met anyone like you. They've never
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heard anyone say the things you say. And they play their message track. And by that, I mean,
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they just repeat what they've heard and they've never heard the response to it. And so they don't
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know how to answer you. And sometimes they lash out, sometimes they physically hit you,
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but sometimes they actually have the first real conversation in their lives with someone with whom they
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disagree. I think it's actually an incredible social experiment.
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Yeah. I would say almost every time there, this is really the first conversation they're having
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about it because they feel like they can't have these conversations, which is one reason I started
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heading out onto the streets because when children are coming to permanent harm, we need to be able to
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talk about that. But this was the one issue everyone was most afraid to talk about. So yes, I've been
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at dozens of universities. I get a lot of support there too, especially from the young men. It's primarily the
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young women who've been indoctrinated into this. They're the ones taking gender studies classes.
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But yeah, I've had thousands of these conversations. I give speeches now at universities as well.
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And the reactions are very interesting. Some people are just so shocked that I dare to wear
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a sign that says children cannot consent to puberty blockers, that they're literally shaking.
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But I try to find sources of agreement and I say things that they can't help but agree with,
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which is that our children are beautiful just as they are. No drugs or scalpels needed.
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Everyone agrees with that instinctively, but they've been deceived into believing that
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somehow children are born wrong. I love the billboard that you have that says
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no one is born in the wrong body. What's the exact words you use?
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I have that children are never born in the wrong body, but my main one is children cannot consent
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to puberty blockers. And those are such simple statements and there's such conversation starts.
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I tell you, maybe you already have this idea, but you have so much footage.
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I actually think that a thoughtful editor with all your GoPro footage could turn that into
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an incredible documentary. You would be the narrator sort of introducing it and saying,
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well, I went to Harvard. And I remember when you went to Ireland, which is an interview,
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and they were almost arrested on the street. Like I think, I think you've got the makings of a movie.
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If you've had 10,000 or 20,000 conversations, and if you still have even
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a hundred of those conversations on tape, I think you're sitting on a documentary film, by the way.
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Oh, I have all of my footage over three and a half years. So, yeah, I think there definitely
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could be a film made, but I would really like to do a documentary focused on the detransitioners.
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We could include some of my footage, but I think we need to tell the stories of these young people
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who've been harmed. That's always my main focus. So, if you want to work together on something,
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I'm all ears. Well, I mean, listen, we would be honored to work with you. I mean, we would be
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delighted. I hope you do the film, whether it's with us or with someone else, because, because it's,
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it's riveting. It's riveting. And you can see, you can see sort of the gears spinning in real time.
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And, and a lot of the people who come to you, some of them are in bad faith, but a lot of them
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really earnestly want to understand. And, and it's fascinating watching someone
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be challenged in real time in a way they've never been before. Anyhow, it's, it's amazing stuff.
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Um, I think you were just at Harvard recently. Is that right?
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I was, I was invited there for a conference that was going on, put on by the Republican
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club and the conservatives there. And then I also spoke with their student paper, the conservative
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paper. So I spoke with them for about 90 minutes. They should be publishing a piece on this, which is
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a really big deal. I think, even though it's the conservative paper and there aren't a ton of
00:31:32.200
conservatives there, a lot of the alumni and all that will still read it. I went to a debate there.
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I made some friends. So, you know, part of what I do is just making friends and making connections
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because you never know where that leads down the road. But that was fun. The first time I went to
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Harvard, I got stalked by Antifa and then I got escorted off the property.
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Wow. Well, if this time you were able to hold your ground and, and, and I'm, I mean, Harvard,
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it's had some disgraces lately, but it still is, you know, a seat of, of high learning and,
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and it is an intellectual place despite its flaws. And I'm glad you're there. Hey, listen,
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I want to ask you about something, um, an incredible story. In English Canada, we call
00:32:08.680
it the CBC, but in French Canada, in Quebec, it's called Radio Canada. Same corporate entity,
00:32:16.120
but actually a bit of a different editorial philosophy. I mean, for example, Radio Canada
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was very separatist, uh, for quite a while. It has its own politics that the English side doesn't.
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And Radio Canada, that is the French language, CBC did something
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that never in a million years would their English brothers and sisters do. They did an investigation.
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And I, and, and I only know the headlines here, so I'm going to rely on you for the details.
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They tested some of these gender clinics. They said, if we send in a minor child,
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how quickly can they get a prescription for puberty blockers or some other, you know,
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physically and mentally dangerous prescriptions? And like the very fact that they were stinging
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some of these transgender doctors and clinics would be unthinkable at the CBC. They did it,
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they published it and the results were terrifying. Why don't you fill in some of the details on this for
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our viewers, Chris? Sure. So I, I literally just watched this whole thing and I made some notes.
00:33:20.520
One of the most shocking things is towards the end of this documentary. And if you Google,
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what's it called? The Trans Express English subtitles, you'll find it with English subtitles. So
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they sent a 14 year old girl into this gender clinic in Quebec. In five minutes, this is a private
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clinic where she can get the letter that she needs to get hormones. In five minutes, this clinician was
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already talking about double mastectomies for her. Oh my God. And hysterectomies. Oh my God.
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Literally five minutes in. Oh my God. And with, in less than nine minutes,
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she was writing the letter for this girl to get testosterone. Oh my God. So first meeting,
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parents not there. I take it. Parents not there. No guardian, just kid. Parents weren't there.
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The doctor said, do your parents know you're here? She said, yeah.
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And obviously the whole thing was a sting. It's sort of like 21 jumps. It was, but, but go ahead.
00:34:15.320
But we don't need to just rely on this sting, Ezra, because they focus on a few other young people,
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two of whom are already D transitioning. And one of these girls, she had been admitted to the hospital
00:34:28.440
for anorexia when she was young, really little, she developed really young. So she didn't like her curves
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when she was 12 or 13. And so then she developed an eating disorder. She was admitted to the hospital
00:34:38.760
for her anorexia. She didn't want to have her breasts. Two doctors recommend she get puberty
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blockers and another said she should get a double mastectomy. I can barely stand to hear this stuff,
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Chris. And I know you have to hear it. And she has borderline personality disorder. This other girl
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had borderline personality disorder. This is where kids, you know, they have poor self-image. They're
00:34:59.720
very emotional. They're very sensitive. They make rash decisions. But it's called being a teenager.
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It's hard being a teenager. You're growing up, your body's changing, you have hormones,
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you're trying to find your place in the world. It's tough being a teenager, but never before did
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you have these institutions, very authoritative, wearing a doctor's gown saying, we understand you
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and we will put you on the path and don't tell your parents. And yeah, you need to hack off your body
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parts. In a way they're predators, Chris. And it's just, it's so heartbreaking to hear about.
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And I'm just a stranger hearing about these. I can only imagine being a family member or the
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child itself. I, I, I'm sorry I interrupted you. I find these things so often to listen to.
00:35:41.160
That's fine. Speaking of family members. So this other young girl,
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uh, one psychologist that she'd seen had said, you know, we think your daughter has borderline
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personality disorder. When they saw the gender clinic, the doctor said, literally said,
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borderline personality disorder does not exist. BPD are transgender people.
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These are just struggling with other mental health issues.
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When all you have is a hammer and a nail. They just, that's a solution. You know, I,
00:36:12.920
Chris, I find this, so this is in Quebec. You're saying this, so this was in
00:36:16.920
Canada. Well, let me ask you this because, you know, Quebecers fancy
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themselves as very socially progressive and especially on matters of sex and sexuality.
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That's why that's an extra reason I find this CBC Radio Canada reports astonishing.
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What's been the reaction? Has there been a reaction to these clinics or has the hostility
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been towards the CBC Radio Canada for exposing it? Do you know what, what the echoes are in the
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days since this aired? Well, the people I've seen online who would fashion themselves as
00:36:49.560
progressives are just trying to dismiss this and saying that's not the typical thing.
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But I mean, you got to watch this. People watching this at home really Google this trans express.
00:37:00.520
It's incredible. It's a very independent investigation. There's no agenda to it at all.
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And in every single case, it's exactly what people like myself have been saying,
00:37:09.160
which is that there's no safeguards. If a child says they're trans, they just go along with it.
00:37:12.680
We have to realize that just because you have MD at the end of your name, that doesn't mean
00:37:16.520
anything. There are zealots who are doctors and these essentially they're religious zealots believing
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in this trans faith. They're working in these gender clinics and they're harming thousands of kids.
00:37:28.200
Yeah. Well, Chris, I'm glad you're doing this important work. It's fascinating how you are on the
00:37:34.600
ground in the streets, one-on-one in an in a Herculean effort that no one else in the world is
00:37:41.720
doing. And I suggested the documentary to you because you've got so much fascinating footage
00:37:47.080
and I and I'm glad you're open to it. And of course, Rebel would love to team up with you.
00:37:51.480
I mean, you could I think you've got a hell of a story that anyone would be interested in.
00:37:57.000
I love following you on Twitter because I never know where you're going to pop up next.
00:38:00.440
And each interaction is a fascinating little moment. We love doing what we call streeters,
00:38:06.600
man on the street conversations. That's sort of what you're doing. You're doing it every day
00:38:11.720
with the most controversial subject around. And you let people talk at great length. It's such an
00:38:17.320
amazing thing you're doing. And I think it's unique. And I think that's why you were such a hit at Rebel
00:38:22.520
News Live last year. And I'm gushing again, but partly because I want to change the subject because
00:38:28.920
listening to the details. I guess I just don't have as strong a constitution as you do.
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I get it. And I should toughen up a bit, but I'm glad there's tough guys like you out there
00:38:40.520
who are tough on the inside, but gentle on the outside.
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Thank you very much, Ezra. I appreciate all of your help in exposing this madness.
00:38:48.520
I'm off to Australia next month. So I'll be going there to Melbourne and Sydney,
00:38:54.280
and then I'll be heading over to Toronto for the Rebel News Live conference.
00:38:59.000
Well, you know, it's amazing the places you go, and it'll be very interesting to see how
00:39:03.800
Australia reacts because in some ways they're quite similar to Canada, but they also have
00:39:09.240
this sort of a rambunctious, rowdy group. I wonder how politically correct they are on this stuff.
00:39:14.040
I look forward to your reports from there. Well, Chris, great to see you again.
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Folks, you can follow him at Billboard Chris on Twitter. And we're about to announce
00:39:25.560
tickets for the Rebel News Live. I'm not sure if that website is live right now,
00:39:29.800
but if not, it'll be very soon. So you'll want to come and see Chris in person. He really was,
00:39:34.360
I think, other than Tamara Leach, who played the concert at the end of our Calgary Rebel News Live,
00:39:39.720
which was just amazing. I think Chris's presentation was the most delightfully received.
00:39:46.520
So you'll certainly want to be there. Take care, Chris. We'll talk to you soon.
00:39:50.440
Thank you. All right, folks. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:40:04.280
Hey, welcome back. Your viewer mailed to me. Natalie Jack says,
00:40:07.080
the truckers didn't even come close to this, but they were arrested for political crimes and
00:40:11.000
citizens' bank accounts were frozen. This is crazy. You're talking about that video filmed by Karima
00:40:15.320
Saad in the city of Vaughan, north of Toronto, where pro-Hamas protesters hit a cop, was arrested,
00:40:23.240
and then the mob pulled that woman free and the cops were fine with it. That was more violence in
00:40:30.040
that moment than the whole trucker convoy combined. Howard Tenenbaum says, notice that the same
00:40:35.240
organizer, White Beard, blockading the Jewish neighborhood is also at the demonstration at
00:40:40.520
the synagogue. Yeah, I forget his name. I'd have to look it up. But, you know, it's actually a fairly
00:40:47.000
small group. But they just, this is their profession. They're paid to do it. According to an investigation
00:40:53.400
by Global News, there are 700 Iranian operatives working in Canada, fomenting this kind of thing.
00:41:01.000
Now, don't kid yourself. There are thousands of people in Canada who support this. There have
00:41:06.280
been street rallies of over 10,000 people. There are lots of woke, white leftists doing it too. But
00:41:13.240
what you're seeing on the streets is an Iranian information op, a psyop. And Canada has no defense
00:41:20.760
against it because we have moral, no moral leadership. No one's speaking out against it.
00:41:24.840
Certainly not Trudeau. Stephanie Cassette says, a whole new level of concern for what's happening
00:41:30.120
in Canada. And then along comes the anti-hate laws, just when you think it can't get worse. Well,
00:41:34.680
yeah, I mean, you just saw raw hatred on the street, but hatred transforming into actual violence,
00:41:39.480
attacking a cop, all sorts of placards threatening death. I'm not going to even mention the Molotov
00:41:47.240
cocktails and the shootings. If you have a government that will not stop hateful conduct that's becoming
00:41:54.200
violence in real life, don't expect to help them to help you on the internet. That's the show for
00:42:02.200
today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,