EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau Liberals lose another court battle in bid to censor Canadians
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On Saturday, we sued Justin Trudeau's former justice minister, David Lamedi. He got the lawsuit on Sunday, and today, on Monday, he pretty much caved in. Now we re not done with him yet, but I ll give you the full update.
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Hello, my friends. What a surprise I have for you today. On Saturday, we sued Justin Trudeau's
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former Justice Minister, David LeMani. I didn't even know you could file a lawsuit on Saturday,
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but we did. He got the lawsuit on Sunday, and incredibly, today, Monday, he pretty much caved
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in. Now, we're not done with him yet, but I'll give you the full update. That's today's show.
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But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's the video version of
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this podcast. It's eight bucks a month. You can get that at rebelnewsplus.com. Eight bucks a month
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is good value for you, I put it. But more than that, it's the way we stay alive, because we do not take
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any money from Trudeau, and it shows. All right, here's today's podcast. Tonight, we sued David
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LeMani on Saturday. It's Monday, and he's already half caved in. I'll give you all the details. It's
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January 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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In my hand here, I have a court order that I just got a few days ago. I haven't had a chance to tell
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you about it yet. It is an order compelling three liberal cabinet ministers, Marcy Ian,
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Yara Sachs, and Karina Gould, to forever unban Rebel News journalists and ordered those three
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lovely liberal ladies to pay us $1,750 in legal costs for violating our rights and making us go
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to court. It's a very similar order to the one that Stephen Gilbeau had to sign a few months back.
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I was going to make my monologue about that today and make the case that this is sort of a small
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victory, but it is a victory nonetheless, and anything that's going in the direction of more
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freedom is the pendulum coming back. It's not a big win like last week's federal court ruling,
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but it's a win nonetheless. So I actually had written my whole monologue on the subject when,
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bam, I received news from our legal team, Chad Williams and his firm. As you may have heard from my emails
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and a little video I did on the weekend, we sued David Lamedi on the weekend. David Lamedi,
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the former justice minister, the disgraced justice minister, I think is a fair thing to say.
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He was the justice minister who illegally approved Justin Trudeau's call for martial law,
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and then he was sacked from cabinet. And after last week's federal court ruling against the
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Emergencies Act, he resigned in disgrace, oddly being picked up by a law firm called Fask and
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Martin. No. Anyways, what we noticed is that he had deleted his government Twitter account,
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which is not his account. It's got that great check mark saying it's government,
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and that's all his public records and some of his private communications too.
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In my mind, it was like he was sneaking away and shredding all the documents that might hold him
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culpable, especially as the lawsuits now deploy against the government. Anyway, I was blown away by the
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fact that today, David Lamedi put his Twitter account back up. We sued him on Saturday. We served
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him with the papers on Sunday. I didn't even know you could do that. I didn't know you could do these
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things on a weekend. And then today, Monday, Lamedi basically says, okay, and he puts it back up.
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It's a win for Rebel News. However, I'm not going to take that win to the bank because we need the court
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to order it so he can't sidestep this again. He can't secretly delete things. Anyways, when I heard
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this news, I did an emergency live stream. Let me play that for you today. This is what I did
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a few hours ago as the news broke. But let me tell you, I am not satisfied with this until I have a
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court order like this one. This bans Marcy Ian, Yarar Sachs, and Karina Gould from ever banning us on
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Twitter again for the rest of their careers. And if they do it, they're in violation of the court.
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That's a powerful thing. David Lamedi grudgingly putting Twitter back up today is a good step. But
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until I have it in a court order, I will not be satisfied. In fact, I'm recording this. I'm
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checking my watch. This is about 3 p.m. when I'm recording it. At 4 p.m., I have to hop on a Zoom
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call called a case management judge that basically says, okay, it's a very emergency case. Here's the
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deadline. So it's just a procedural hearing. But we are very much dedicated to seeing this through.
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All right. Without further ado, here's my live stream when I just got the news. Come back after
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the live stream because we've got an interview with Robert Krejcik, who's doing interesting things
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in Ottawa. Okay. Here's the live stream, which has the news.
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Ezra Levant here from Rebel News. I am coming to you with a breaking news live stream update. You may
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have heard over the weekend that Rebel News and myself sued David Lamedi, the disgraced justice
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minister who invoked the martial law, the Emergencies Act. We sued him because he was deleting and
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destroying government records, namely his Twitter account. We filed that lawsuit. Normally, you don't
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file a lawsuit on a weekend. I've never, in fact, heard of that before. But our lawyer, our legal team,
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Chad Williamson, is one of our most keen lawyers and I would say our winningest lawyer. He's the guy
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who won various lawsuits against cabinet ministers like Stephen Gilbeau. He also got us accreditation
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in the 2021 election debates, but let's talk about what he did this weekend. He filed a lawsuit
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for me personally and Rebel News as a company against David Lamedi and the government of Canada
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and Lamedi in his personal capacity as well as his government capacity because David Lamedi had a
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Twitter account with that gray government checkmark. And if you know Twitter, you know that gray government
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checkmark means it is an official government account. It's not a personal account. It's not a private
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account. It's not for friends and family. It's not done using personal resources or party resources.
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It is a civil service project. And after the federal court ruled last week that the Emergencies Act was
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illegal, unreasonable, unjustifiable, unintelligible, and unconstitutional, those are all words from the
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ruling. Lamedi quit. He quit parliament and he announced he was going to work for some fancy law
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firm called Faskin Martineau. Remind me never to deal with a law firm like Faskin Martineau that hires a
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disgraced, discredited, civil liberties-torching justice minister. I mean, why you would hire a
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loser like that is beyond me. But on his way out the door, he was destroying documents. That's what it
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means when you delete your Twitter account. You're destroying your records, not just your public-facing
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records, but any private direct messages, any DMs, as they're called. And the reason that's important
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is because we know for a fact that these cabinet ministers use private communications like that. We saw
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it during the judicial inquiry into the Truckers Commission. So not only was David Lamedi deleting his
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public record, which is outrageous to begin with, but he was deleting, he, that sneaky little bastard
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was deleting his private message to other MPs, other cabinet ministers, and whoever else he was
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talking to on Twitter. And he thought he would just casually do this as he left the building.
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Just delete it. But that's the thing, it's not his Twitter account to delete. That would be if,
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like, if the disgraced Catherine McKenna, former environment minister, who, you know,
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billions of dollars missing from her department, it's enough that she quit in disgrace. But imagine
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if she deleted all the files, had all the hard drives wiped, and all the papers shredded for her
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mismanagement. I mean, by the way, there's still no justice to come there. But as far as we know,
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she didn't call the shredders. In 2024, you delete documents by pushing a button. You know,
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maybe 20 years ago, you would have shredding trucks parked outside the office working all night.
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It's not how it goes in 2024. But what's incredible is how few mainstream media journalists
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pointed out his deletion of his Twitter account. And I think it was almost zero who cared about it.
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Well, we cared about it at Rebel News. And we took him to court. And I want you to look at that
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lawsuit. It was a pretty good lawsuit filed by Chad Williams and his team. You can find the whole thing
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at StopTheCoverUp.com. That's the special website we set up. Don't you think that's a good name for
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him? Because that's what it was. I mean, if David Lamenti wants to delete his family Facebook page,
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that's his business. He wants to delete his private social media accounts. I don't care.
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I have no interest in them. But I have a huge interest in his public accounts,
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because he's a public person who's involved in a public controversy. And literally this morning,
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I received a phone call from a law firm in Vancouver that is working with people who were
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damaged by martial law, who are planning to sue the government. So in a very real sense,
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what David Lamenti was trying to delete was evidence. It was absolutely evidence that would
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be crucial in the upcoming lawsuit. And he thought he would delete it. But remember who David Lamenti is.
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How did such a man become justice minister? Do you remember the story there? Canada had a justice
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minister named Jody Wilson-Raybould, who was the first indigenous justice minister in Canadian history.
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Certainly Trudeau made a lot of fanfare about that, as did the media. But the thing about Jody Wilson-Raybould
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is I think she actually cared about the law. Now, she was a bit of a left-wing ideologue,
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let's be honest. But I think she had a lot of integrity. And it is sort of exciting that an
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indigenous person became justice minister. I'll say it. I mean, maybe that's affirmative action on
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my part. But I mean, that is a step towards harmony, I think, you know. But the trouble is,
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she was too ethical. And when Justin Trudeau's friends at a corrupt Montreal-based engineering firm
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called SNC-Lavalin, when they were caught bribing their way into, I think it was a hospital,
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they were, they bribed public officials to get a contract. So they were being prosecuted for
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corruption. And they weren't disputing that, by the way. Justin Trudeau and his staff, including
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Gerald Butts, kept pestering Jody Wilson-Raybould to drop the trial, to call off the trial, to call off
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a criminal trial. And Jody Wilson-Raybould would not do it. In fact, she was sort of shocked that
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Trudeau was demanding that she do it. And so he fired her. Justin Trudeau fired Jody Wilson-Raybould
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because she was too honest. Have you ever heard of that before? So who would he replace to succeed
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her? Obviously, it's not going to work if you fire her and replace her with someone else who's ethical
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and puts the rule of law and independence of the judiciary above partisan politics. Obviously,
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firing Jody Wilson-Raybould and getting a second Jody Wilson-Raybould is not going to help you with
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your goal of letting your crooked, corrupt, bribe-paying Montreal cronies off the hook. It's
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not going to work. So the chief qualification for being the successor to Jody Wilson-Raybould is someone
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who will obey Justin Trudeau no matter what. And that man was named David Lamedi.
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And wouldn't you know it, the chief defining characteristic about him is that he will put
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his obedience to Justin Trudeau about his public duties. That actually became crucially important
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two years ago when Justin Trudeau proposed to invoke martial law, the Emergencies Act, an act that had
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never been used before, not even during 9-11. Now, a plain reading of the Emergencies Act, you don't
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even have to be a lawyer to get this, is that you can only invoke martial law if there is a serious
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violence in the country, a real insurrection, a revolution, an invasion, something of an existential
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threat. It has to be an extraordinarily dangerous situation. And step two in the decision, you have
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to invoke martial law only if no existing laws can handle the situation. So if there was, God forbid,
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an invasion of Canada, if our Canadian forces could repel it normally, you don't need to put the country
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under martial law. In fact, it's illegal to do so. So the Emergencies Act, which was drafted, I don't know,
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almost 40 years ago, as a successor to the War Measures Act, it had some checks and balances
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within it. You can only use the Emergencies Act if the country is in a grave situation tantamount to a
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revolution or an invasion. And you can only do it even then if your regular laws don't work. Well,
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obviously, regular laws work just fine on the truckers. They were honking too much. Our court
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ordered them to stop. They stopped. Honking problem solved. There were some tickets for parking. Okay,
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that they paid their tickets. And that was about it. There was no serious violence. There was no
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violence at all, in fact. And so David Lamedi knew, because he's a smart lawyer, that invoking the
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Emergencies Act was, as Justice Mostly of the Federal Court announced last week, illegal, unintelligible,
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unreasonable, unjustified, and unconstitutional. David Lamedi and every other lawyer involved knew
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it was illegal and unconstitutional. But David Lamedi did it anyways, because he was hired
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specifically for his moral failure. The fact that he was corrupt and corruptible was precisely why
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Trudeau chose him to be the Justice Minister. Jody Wilson-Raybould would never have approved this.
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David Lamedi would have approved anything. And so when the federal court ruled, as I mentioned last
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week, David Lamedi resigned and disgraced and slunked and sneaked out of Ottawa, going to his luxury
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reward at Fask and Martineau, the law firm. But even on his way out the door, he was an unethical,
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corrupt liberal, wasn't he? Deleting his own... Look at that bow tie. I know a few people with bow ties,
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but just the fact that that little weasel is wearing a bow tie is his way of saying,
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I'm untouchable. I'm different than you. I'm above you. The rules of ethics don't apply to me.
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I shouldn't knock bow ties. I have some good friends who wear them. But to see that little
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prat in there as he sells out... The job of the Justice Minister, you can tell it from the word
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Justice Minister, is to administer justice. The job of the Justice Minister is to ensure justice is done,
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to protect the civil liberties of Canadians, including to protect them from the government
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itself. But that little weasel did the opposite. He sold out justice. He sold out the citizens to
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his boss. And what a disgrace. David Lamedi is an unremarkable man. The fact that he looks like a
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weasel is secondary. And I'm sorry, I shouldn't have mentioned that weasely weasel, because that's not
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the main point. Yes, he's a weasel. But the main point is he sold out his fellow Canadians, and that
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is all he will ever be known for. His epitaph will be, here lies the weasel that sold out his fellow man
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It takes remarkable courage, like Jody Wilson able to stand up to a bully. David Lamedi was the
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bully's assistant. But here's my point. We went to court on Saturday. Have you ever heard of such a
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thing? We rushed to court. We made an emergency application. In fact, I'm recording this live
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stream at 2 p.m. Eastern time. We're running live at 2 p.m. Eastern. In just under two hours, we will
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have a case management meeting with the federal court. Because when you file an emergency lawsuit on
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Saturday, the court sort of wakes up on Monday and says, oh, we better get going. Let's get our
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timing straight. So at 4 p.m. today, a case management judge will set out, okay, the plaintiffs
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will have their paperwork in on this day, and the government will have two days to respond, and
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et cetera, et cetera. You might say, well, what's the point of that now, Ezra? That David Lamedi has,
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show it please, Ephraim, has restored his account.
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It was gone on Friday. It was gone on Saturday. We sued on Saturday. We served all the bad guys
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copies of the lawsuits on Sunday. And would you look at this on Monday? David Lamedi's Twitter
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account is back. We sued on Saturday. He put it back up on Monday. I don't think I've ever seen such a
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quick surrender in my life, except when you're dealing with a little weasel, it's not enough
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for him to do something like that, because what if he deletes it again tomorrow? Or what if not he,
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but one of Trudeau's henchmen deletes it tomorrow? Or what if they have a whipsies accident and delete
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it tomorrow? Or what if they're just quietly deleting selected tweets? There are so many things
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that a weaselly weasel might do to be weaselly. And so that is why we have to pursue and proceed
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with this lawsuit. We need a court order requiring and compelling Lamedi and anyone else not to touch
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those records, not to delete anything, to preserve those records forever, theoretically, as long as there
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is litigation afoot, as long as there is a dearth of accountability for the abuses of the emergency
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act. Imagine that little weasel who thinks he will sneak out the back door, deleting all his files as
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he go. And the thing is, he almost got away with it. Do you think the Toronto Star or the CBC or the
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Globe and Mail held him to account? They did not. Only Little Rebel News and our crowdfunded lawsuit did.
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Yesterday, I was swearing and signing affidavits in this matter. I think our total filings,
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including exhibits and documents, are 1,000 pages. It'll be interesting to see what the government
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says at 4 p.m. today. I'm going to go and check right now to see if we have any live stream tweets,
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if you have any, excuse me, super chats, or rumble rants, I think they're called, on rumble. We have
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none so far, but if you've got something to say, I'll be on the live stream for another 10 minutes or so.
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I'm just looking out right now. I'm looking through my notes here. It's very exciting.
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It's very exciting what's happening. I want to touch on one more thing. Efron, that document you showed
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me. Remember during the fake judicial inquiry into the Emergencies Act, I call it fake because
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Trudeau handpicked the judge. Trudeau wrote the terms of reference. Trudeau gave an artificial
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timeline to the judge and ta-da, surprised the judge said, oh yeah, your invocation of the Emergencies Act
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was fine. Total stitch up. But in the real trial, it was an independent judge that Trudeau did not
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choose with real rules of evidence, real rules of law, and Trudeau violated the Constitution. But during
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that fake commission of inquiry, this document was presented as evidence. Now, I don't quite understand
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the two different colors there, and some people have said this was a doctored document, but whatever
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its providence, this was shown by the Trucker Commissioner of Inquiry. This is a text message
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exchange between Marco Mendocino, the disgraced former public safety minister, and David Lamedi,
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the disgraced former justice minister. So, Lamedi writes to Mendocino, you need to get the police to move,
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and the Canadian Armed Forces, if necessary. Let's just stop right there. So, politicians order
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cops to arrest protesters. Is that how it works? That's how it works in Trudeau's Canada under David
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Lamedi. And the Canadian Armed Forces, really. We're going to roll in some fighter jets. I don't think
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we have any to fly. Too many people are being seriously adversely impacted by what is an occupation.
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I am getting out as soon as I can. What, you're running away from Ottawa? You little weaselly coward.
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Then he says, people are looking to us, you, for leadership, and not stupid people. People like
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Carney, Cath, my team. Mark Carney, what role did he have to play? He's not part of the government.
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I don't know who Cath is. Cath is, Cath McKenna? Who cares what she says? So, Mendocino writes back and
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says, how many tanks are you asking for? I just want to ask Anita, Anita Nan, the defense minister,
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how many we've got on hand? And Lamedi writes back, I reckon one will do.
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Now, I've heard it said that this is just a joke. Really? Just a joke, eh? We know for a fact they
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did deploy the military. They deployed military drones to spy on peaceful protesters. We know this
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because that's the evidence that many of these prosecutions of these peaceful protesters has
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relied on. Disclosure from the Canadian Armed Forces. We know this. We know that they jailed people.
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We know they stomped ride horses on them. We know they seized bank accounts. Why would you suddenly
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think, ha ha, this one, they're kidding? David Lamedi is the lowest of the low. You know that. I know
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that. Justin Trudeau knows that. That's why he hired him. We went from perhaps the most ethical
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justice minister in our history, Johnny Whistler-Raybould, to the least ethical justice minister,
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David Lamedi. And on his way out the door, he thought he would delete the files.
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But we sued him on Saturday, and on Monday, he stopped. The reason I showed you that exchange
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with Marco Mendocino about the Canadian Armed Forces was not just to show what a depraved
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man he is, but to show the kind of chit-chat on text messages, on private communications
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that these cabinet ministers have with each other.
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One of the ways people on Twitter talk to each other is through direct messages.
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You don't actually need to call someone up or email them and say, what's your email? What's
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your phone number? How do I connect with you? One of the fun things on Twitter is if someone
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follows you, you can send them a direct message. I have many politicians follow me, for example,
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so I can just send them a direct message. I don't have to text them or phone them.
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It's actually a super convenient way of talking to someone. And unlike my phone list, which might
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have a thousand names in it, well, there's about 400,000 people who follow me on Twitter. So
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obviously, that's like the largest possible phone book I could possibly have. And I just have to click
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direct message and I'm chatting with them. And I think people check their direct messages a lot more
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often than their email because they get so many fewer of them. I think most people get only a
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handful of direct messages a day as opposed to maybe a hundred emails. My point is, I bet you
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that David Lamedi had a ton of direct messages where he spoke candidly and off without his guard up
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about what to do with those protesters. We saw in that one text message that he was joking, I didn't
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see the humor, about deploying tanks. What else did this little weasel say when he thought no one else
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was looking? He managed to get through the public inquiry without being prosecuted or jailed.
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He managed to get through Justice Mosley's ruling last week without being prosecuted or jailed.
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And he thought all he had to do was delete his Twitter account and he'd be scot-free.
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Well, Rebel News is on the file and we're not done yet. The reason I tell you all this is because
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we are not giving up. I mean, you might say, Ezra, victory accomplished. Do a victory lap.
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You got that little weasel to put his Twitter account back up. No, no, no, no, no. You have to
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understand how these guys think. You got to think like they think. We don't know what he's deleting.
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We don't know if he's cherry-picking embarrassing things. We don't know if he's gone back
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and deleted select things. We need a court order barring him from doing that.
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Mdrum12 chipped in a buck. I mean, Georgia, USA, I'm always impressed with Rebel News,
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became aware during the trucker convoy in Viva Fry. You have our work cut out for you.
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Yeah, that's true. All right. Well, you know what? I just wanted to make this announcement.
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There's not too much more to tell you at this stage. At 4 p.m. Eastern, I will be attending the
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case conference where a case management judge will outline what happens now. I'm excited that
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it seems like Lamedi is surrendering at the first whiff of gunpowder, but these are tricksters and I
00:26:13.260
wouldn't count on the fact that they surrender. I think they're still planning nasty things.
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Let me close by saying no one else did this lawsuit. Not the official opposition,
00:26:28.800
not Conservative Party as a party, not other activist groups. Maybe charities couldn't even
00:26:36.080
do it. I mean, I'm friends with the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms. I'm friends
00:26:40.200
with the Democracy Fund, of course. And maybe their legal mandates under the Revenue Canada wouldn't
00:26:46.020
allow them to do this. Rebel News did this. And I think that's something that I'm proud of and
00:26:53.780
something that you as our viewers and supporters and donors can be proud of. I haven't got the legal
00:26:59.440
bill yet for the lawsuit. I know that three lawyers worked around the clock all weekend getting this
00:27:04.980
lawsuit in. And it's not going to be a gentle bill when I receive it. And like I say, we're not done
00:27:10.940
yet. We're just beginning. If you want to help us out, go to stopthecoverup.com because that's
00:27:17.920
exactly what Lamedi was doing. Go to stopthecoverup.com. And I'll give you an update tomorrow
00:27:37.120
Well, one of our newer teammates is named Robert Kraychuk. You probably have come to know him
00:27:42.520
through his daily coverage of Tamara Leach's marathon trial in the city of Ottawa. Good thing
00:27:49.440
Robert lives in Ottawa. It's allowed him to cover things day by day. Of course,
00:27:54.520
there's a lot of news in Ottawa. And one of the new commissions of inquiry started today. It's
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looking into foreign interference. But as we learned last year, commissions of inquiry,
00:28:08.920
when it's a hand-picked judge by Justin Trudeau doing a hand-drafted mandate drafted by Justin Trudeau,
00:28:18.160
there's some real questions about whether they'll ever get to the bottom of things. Case in point,
00:28:21.760
the Trucker Commission inquiry by Justice Rolo basically gave Justin Trudeau the green light
00:28:27.800
for his invocation of martial law. However, when that went before a real court, an independent
00:28:33.480
judge who followed the law, not just in Trudeau's directions, of course, we see what happened last
00:28:38.900
week. Justice Mosley of the Federal Court of Canada ruled that Trudeau's martial law was, well,
00:28:44.800
here's five words from the ruling, illegal, unreasonable, unjustifiable, unintelligible,
00:28:52.380
and unconstitutional. Well, Robert is back in these hearings. This time, it's the foreign influence.
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We have a special website called protectourdemocracy.ca. And Robert joins us now from
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Parliament Hill. Robert, great to see you again. Yes, it's great to see you too. Now, tell me where
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you are. I see a plaque behind you. Are you in Parliament? Where are you standing? No, right
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now I'm in this building. It's National Archives and Library for Canada. Right behind me, there's
00:29:27.260
this media room. Since I'm not legitimate media yet, I'll bring my badge tomorrow. I guess I'll get
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a minute. It might be a bit more easy to do. It is like this is a bit more private. Okay. Now,
00:29:36.440
are they granting you access? Have they kept you out? Or will you be able to get in tomorrow?
00:29:42.320
I wasn't pushing the issue because I didn't bring this badge that I've got with me that,
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you know, you guys were so kind to produce for me. I'll bring it tomorrow. I don't think it'll
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be a problem. I'm sure I'll be in with all the good media out there. By the way, I want to add
00:29:53.160
something. You were questioning whether or not this inquiry will be legitimate, given that the judge,
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or in this case, the commissioners or title, can be trusted to do a good state oversight of this
00:30:06.120
school equally, given the fact that, again, she's selected by the federal government.
00:30:11.360
Let's add the dimension of news media. There are news media in there also who are granted this sort
00:30:16.780
of intravenous status, which I'll explain later. So again, you've got government-funded media overseeing
00:30:22.400
this whole commission. And again, itself is erected by the federal government. The federal government
00:30:28.080
Well, Robert, I want you to try and get in there tomorrow. By the way, we were allowed in
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to the Trucker Commission of Inquiry because that was up to the judge himself and he didn't have a hate
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on for Rebel News the same way Trudeau does. I expect you'll be granted access tomorrow. But if you
00:30:47.120
don't, I want you to tell me right away because we will go to court and sue and ask the court to
00:30:54.080
order them to accredit you. And wouldn't it be incredible if the court said, no, no, no,
00:30:59.060
we're going to have a secret inquiry into foreign influence. We don't want any independent
00:31:03.860
journalists. I'm mad. I'm mad about that stuff, Robert. So don't let them get away with it.
00:31:08.940
Anyway, back to what's going on. Tell us a little bit more about the judge and what's going on. I
00:31:15.000
understand today is the first day of this commission of inquiry. What are they doing? Just sort of setting
00:31:19.400
out the ground rules and housekeeping and who's who in the zoo kind of thing, or are they right
00:31:23.700
into the thick of it? That's exactly it. So the judge herself, she's a judge from the Quebec Court
00:31:29.060
of Appeals. So ostensibly, she has the academic and professional pedigree to do this sort of work
00:31:35.560
in that she's dealing with legalities. I don't know much about her beyond that. We'll see how she
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conducts herself over the course of these hearings. I don't want to be preemptive in any sort of
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assessment. As far as what's happened thus far, it feels like a university lecture. It's basically
00:31:51.560
just laying out, as you put it, the ground rules, setting the audience's expectations as to how
00:31:56.000
things will operate, the schedule for the next four days. This is scheduled to run until Friday.
00:32:01.900
There's a second and third set of hearings for March and beyond, but that's what we're dealing with
00:32:06.080
now and laying out some definitional parameters. Like just now, for example, here you'll also find
00:32:10.660
it's interesting. Again, it's this sort of question about how transparent, how good faith,
00:32:15.500
how legitimate can this inquiry be? The definitions for classified information were being laid out by
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somebody who's appointed by this commission. I think he's one of the legal counsels. And he's stating
00:32:25.960
that there are different degrees of classified information, different degrees of secrecy. And putting
00:32:32.300
aside all those sort of minutiae, those boring details, the most important factor is as follows,
00:32:37.920
that in the event that there is classified information that will be presented to the
00:32:42.700
commissioner and her legal team, and that presumably, let's say the commissioner and the
00:32:47.960
legal team want to make that public, they don't think there's a justification to keep this from
00:32:53.360
Canadians. It's still up to the government to make that final determination. So basically,
00:32:59.860
if the commissioner and her legal team want to make something public, they've got to go to the
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government and say, pretty please. Really? So Trudeau has a veto. Trudeau has given himself a veto on
00:33:10.380
what can be released. Well, this is what they call in Britain. They call this a stitch up,
00:33:15.220
is what they would say. Now, let me ask you this. I seem to recall the Conservative Party of Canada
00:33:19.860
wanting full access, wanting equal access to look at things. And I recall reading headlines that
00:33:26.480
that was denied. Are there different tiers of participants here? Because by the way, I accept
00:33:33.360
that there are some things that are national security secrets that it's probably not wise for
00:33:39.640
me and every ordinary person, including bad guys, to know. I think there are some legitimate state
00:33:45.720
secrets. But in those cases, members of parliament who were maybe vetted by RCMP and signed some
00:33:53.480
confidentiality, I'm comfortable with MPs and senators seeing confidential things as long as
00:34:01.160
they're adverse to the government. So if there's opposition members included, and often these
00:34:05.060
national security committees, not just in Canada, but in the US, in the UK, they're non-partisan.
00:34:11.700
They're multi-partisan. So they have people from every party. So it's not just running errands for the
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PM. It's really advocating for the whole country. Let me ask you this. Are there people in that room
00:34:22.640
who are adverse to Trudeau who still have access to everything? Or is it all a Trudeau stitch-up?
00:34:30.300
Is it just if you're with Team Trudeau, you get full access? If you're not, well, you can just stay
00:34:36.140
over there and we'll decide what you can see and hear. Okay. So let's take your first question first,
00:34:41.660
which was whether or not there are degrees or levels of participation. So there are basically two
00:34:46.820
broad categories. One is a party withstanding. And a party or person withstanding will have
00:34:54.920
essentially full access to everything except for those things deemed classified, which will only
00:35:00.140
first be shown to the commissioner and her legal team. And then there's a possible dispute there. Again,
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if they ask the government, please, can we disclose this beyond that? And they'll have the access to
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cross-examine witnesses. The second is a so-called intervener. That's a term I alluded to earlier.
00:35:17.580
An intervener has limited access to the proceedings. An intervener can make requests of the commission
00:35:25.560
to ask certain types of questions, to invite certain types of witnesses or subject matter experts that
00:35:30.960
would be decided by this commissioner as to whether or not they are relevant or germane or helpful to the
00:35:38.220
overall ostensible purpose of this inquiry. And the CPC was granted that intervener status. Now,
00:35:45.920
I also saw some tweets and headlines, hand-wringing, oh, they're not allowing the CPC to be a full party,
00:35:51.960
to be a party withstanding. So is this inquiry really legitimate? I don't know if I agree with that
00:35:59.000
completely, but I will say this, what the commissioner could have done to sort of afford this standing to
00:36:05.260
the CPC while maintaining some degree of even handedness would be to grant that to all political
00:36:10.980
parties who requested it. And that wasn't done. So you could still have a liberal party representative
00:36:16.880
in addition to the federal government, an NDP representative, so to speak, and these different
00:36:21.120
parties could have either intervener status as was granted at the CPC or full standing to introduce
00:36:27.060
witnesses, to cross-examine witnesses, to introduce evidence and so forth.
00:36:30.460
You know, there's so much wrong with foreign influence in Canada. Global News broke the story
00:36:36.240
a few weeks ago about 700 agents of the Iranian dictatorship running amok in Canada. 700
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basically foreign spies from Iran alone. And then you've got China, which is absolutely not only an
00:36:53.240
industrial intellectual espionage, but an influence campaign. And there's so many, ranging on
00:36:59.740
Sikh extremism and how that affects our relations with India, to the Tamil Tigers, to even, I put it
00:37:06.340
to you, a lot of what Trudeau's doing in Ukraine is because there's hundreds of thousands of expats
00:37:10.800
here. I think in so many ways, this diaspora, and let me just talk about Hamas. All of a sudden,
00:37:17.080
Canada is chummy with Hamas, getting praised by Hamas, voting with Hamas at the UN. And it's
00:37:23.600
obviously because there's, you know, a million and a half, two million Muslim Canadians, only 300,000
00:37:28.520
Jewish voters. Trudeau can do the math. I think there's so many ways that Canada's politics has
00:37:33.880
become twisted by foreign influence. And by the way, I don't think any of that is going to be
00:37:40.320
addressed by this judge because I think the judge was selected and the terms were written
00:37:45.200
to suit the government. And in every issue I just listed, foreign, you know, I just think that Trudeau
00:37:54.580
is more compromised by foreign entanglements than any other prime minister in recent history.
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Last question to you, what kind of stuff do you expect to see over the days ahead? Do you think
00:38:07.500
there will be anything that's a surprise? Or do you think we already sort of know it? We've never
00:38:11.960
just heard it all told in one place at one time before. Well, I can tell you what I know will happen,
00:38:18.040
and then I'll tell you what I suspect will happen. What we know will happen is that certain politicians
00:38:21.680
who have been accused or alleged to have been somehow compromised by or assisted by the Chinese
00:38:29.220
Communist Party will be here as witnesses. They've got standing so they can cross-examine anybody who
00:38:35.060
testifies against them or in relation to allegations pertaining to them. If I recall their names, one
00:38:41.220
is a Senator Yu. He's, I think, from British Columbia. I could be wrong about that. Another one was
00:38:46.760
another lady, actually, a Chinese lady. Her name is, she's a member of parliament, Jenny Kwan. She's an
00:38:51.840
NDP MP, and she's stating that she's been targeted by intimidation and coercion campaigns operated by
00:39:00.120
the CCP. Really? So she's going to be, yeah, so she's going to be a witness testifying that she's been,
00:39:05.460
again, targeted by the CCP for intimidation. There's another one, too. I'm trying to recall his name.
00:39:11.620
I think he's the deputy mayor of some city, maybe even Toronto or Brampton or something. I can't recall
00:39:16.400
his name. I'm not familiar with all the Canadian personalities yet. He's also stating that he has
00:39:20.680
been targeted for intimidation and coercion by the CCP. So he'll testify. And there's another one,
00:39:27.140
Han Dong, an MP who was formerly with the so-called Liberal Party of Canada. Now he's supposedly
00:39:32.540
independent. He is also a party withstanding because some of these allegations were targeted
00:39:39.000
against him in terms of him being a beneficiary of CCP influence. I remember Han Dong.
00:39:45.940
We had a campaign to get him turf from the government. Isn't that funny? So he's got
00:39:49.780
standing. He's got more access to the facts than the conservative opposition, which is
00:39:54.480
intervener status. That's incredible. Well, listen, I'm sure you'll hammer out all the details and get
00:39:58.880
the exactitudes of the names and the relationships in your reports. The website, one more time,
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it's preserveourdemocracy.ca. Sorry about that. We have a lot of websites, but it's a good way to
00:40:13.500
compile all our reports in one place. Protectourdemocracy.ca. Robert, thanks for being on the
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scene. We're really glad to have you in Ottawa.
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All right. Take care. Well, there you have it. Robert Krejcik at this latest Trudeau
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Commission of Inquiry. Stay with us. More ahead.
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Well, I was sort of surprised. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised that David Lamedi gave up so quickly.
00:40:46.180
Maybe he's already purged all the embarrassing things, so he's just putting up the public stuff
00:40:50.480
he doesn't care about. But still, to give up basically without a fight was incredible. Of course,
00:40:54.880
I want it in writing. I want a consent order like I have against the other liberals.
00:40:59.820
In some ways, what we're doing is small beans, you know, small potatoes. But I have to say even
00:41:05.340
a small win is a win. And it's time we start pushing back against these bullies. And I have
00:41:10.400
to tell you that that federal court ruling last week has given me a new confidence. I feel like
00:41:15.300
the atmosphere has changed a little bit. I feel like freedom, the pendulum, is swinging back just a
00:41:19.860
little bit. And when the federal court says to Justin Trudeau and David Lamedi, you're lawbreakers,
00:41:24.280
it gives the rest of us courage that, you know, we're not the only ones who feel this way. So I'm
00:41:28.180
very excited about that. We are still going to proceed. We have a number of lawsuits against
00:41:32.280
the government proceeding. And whether they're small or big, we're going to keep going. If you
00:41:36.520
want to see the latest on this Lamedi lawsuit, go to stopthecoverup.com because that's what he's
00:41:42.260
doing in my mind. He's just deleting the record so that he, you know, it's really deleting evidence.
00:41:47.360
That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:41:52.820
to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.