EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau's pathological lying disrespects Canadians and our society's trust
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Justin Trudeau didn t want to go to a Truth and Reconciliation Day event with Indigenous people, so his staff lied about where he was. And we ve got the documents to prove it. Here s a glimpse behind the scenes of Trudeau lying to you in real time.
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Hello, my rebels. Big show today. I'm going to take you through some government documents
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found in an access to information request, and I will read them, but I want you to see
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them. I want you to see these text messages and emails, and I want you to see what it's
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all about. It is about Justin Trudeau lying about where he was, hiding, deceiving. He
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didn't want to go to the Truth and Reconciliation Day event with indigenous people, so he had
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his staff lie while he scooted away to Tofino to surf, and we've got the documents to prove
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Tonight, a glimpse behind the scenes of Trudeau lying to you in real time. It's February 22nd,
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Justin Trudeau is a liar. He thinks nothing of it because he doesn't respect Canadians as
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moral equals. You can see that. As I showed you yesterday, if you disagree with him, he
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thinks you're evil, not just wrong, evil. Remember what he said if he regretted calling people
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Following today's report, do you have any regrets about calling Ottawa protesters a fringe minority?
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As I look back on that, and as I've reflected on it over the past months, not just freshly from
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this commissioner's report, I wish I had phrased it differently. The fact is, there is a very
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small number of people in this country who deliberately spread misinformation and disinformation
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that led to Canadians' deaths, that led to excessive hardship in people who believed them.
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I continue to be very, very firm against those individuals. But that is a small subset of
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people who were just hurting and worried and wanting to be heard. And as much as I tried to
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emphasize throughout the time that, of course, we're always going to stand up for freedom of speech
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and freedom to protest peacefully. I wish I hadn't said something that was able to
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be spread larger. If I had chosen my words a bit careful, a bit more specific, I think things might
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have been a bit easier. See, to Trudeau, there are two kinds of people. Useful people who agree with
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him and support him, and evil people who disagree with him. You'll notice that no one is an equal to
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him. No one is inherently worthy of his respect. It's all, how do you fit into his own plans?
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Now, he can trick people by flattering them or soothing them with clever words. But at his root,
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I think he's a sociopathic liar. I mean, imagine a guy who dresses up in blackface, so often he lost count,
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looking you in the eye and calling you a racist. Oh my God, how did he do that? Imagine a guy who sexually
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assaulted journalist Rose Knight in Creston, BC, telling you you're a sexist. And when asked about
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his misconduct, says this. Often a man experiences an interaction as being benign or not inappropriate,
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and a woman, particularly in a professional context, can experience it differently.
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Now, look, I think all politicians are liars to a degree. And I think sometimes in government,
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there are occasions where a lie is actually necessary. As Winston Churchill said, in wartime,
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truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies. Have you ever heard
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that phrase, a bodyguard of lies? But you shouldn't lie casually or frequently. You shouldn't become
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at your core a liar. I think Trudeau is, and I've got some proof of it for you today. Now, you shouldn't
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become a liar because so much of our society depends on honesty and the trust that honesty grows. Give
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me a minute on this. You know, one of the features of our legal system is that it uses Latin phrases
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where an English phrase would do nicely. I'm not sure why it does that other than tradition and custom.
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I think maybe it adds some extra oomph to something as if it's super important when you say it in Latin.
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Maybe it actually forces you to remember it as a law student. I think that worked on me.
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De minimis curate lex. That was my favorite. That means the law doesn't care about trivialities.
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I always thought of that when I got a speeding ticket for just going a few kilometers an hour
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faster than the limit. I don't think saying that Latin phrase ever got me out of a ticket though.
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Mens rea means guilty mind. Ultra virus means outside the power, as in the government doesn't
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have the power to do something. Maybe all the Latin is just to impress non-lawyers and to justify
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higher legal fees by making lawyers into some sort of fancy priesthood like a wizard saying a magic
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spell in a foreign tongue. But here's one that came to mind unprompted today when I thought of Trudeau.
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And it was this. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. You can probably guess what that means.
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False in one thing, false in everything. Or put it another way, once a liar, always a liar.
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Isn't that a good one? And it's true, isn't it? And it's very useful in a legal system where we depend
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on people to be honest. And forget about the law. What about life? If you know someone is a liar,
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you approach them with some caution, right? I mean, liars can be interesting. They can be fun. They can
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be entertaining. They can be impressive. But you can never make yourself vulnerable to them in friendships,
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in business, in marriage. The law really does put a premium on telling the truth. If you lie under
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oath, for example, it's a crime called perjury. If you lie in certain contracts, it's called fraud.
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We really forget how much of our society depends on everybody telling the truth to each other.
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We are a high trust society. And I can tell you it's much better to live in a high trust society than
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to live in a low trust society, which is much, if not most of the world. It took centuries for us to
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learn to trust each other, maybe even millennia. In other places in the world, you can only trust
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your kin. I heard this saying once when someone was talking about the Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein
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Al Tikriti. Al Tikriti means Saddam from Tikrit. That was the little town he was from. And that was
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so much of how he ruled the country because that was his allegiance to his town. Those were the only
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people he could trust. Here's how I heard it said. I against my brothers. I and my brothers against
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my cousins. I, my brothers and my cousins against the world. Have you ever heard that? That is a
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low trust society. That's how they think in Tikrit where Hussein came from. What a dark world that would
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be. A world where it is hard to make friends, hard to travel, hard to be vulnerable. You know, I felt it
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when I went to Iraq a few years ago myself. You remember when Rebel News went there to observe
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the Christian refugees being persecuted by ISIS? And we went there not only to report, but to disperse
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money that we raised to help the refugees. And when people detected that we had money, oh, you could
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feel the change in the air. Everyone was jockeying to empty our pockets to say or do anything to liberate
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the foolish foreigners of their money. I was told I smiled too much. I looked like an idiot for smiling for
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no reason. I was told I said, thank you too easily. And certainly that I said, thank you very much
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for trivial things. And again, it made me look like an easy mark. Forgive the detour into the importance
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of a high trust society, but it is very real. And it goes to every part of life from trusting
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the quality of something you buy in a market to trusting the world enough to let young women walk
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alone on the street at night. I'm not calling everyone in Iraq a liar. The opposite, actually.
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I'm saying they have to be very careful with the truth because it's dangerous to reveal the truth
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of things in a low trust society. We see some of those risks when people come across to Canada from
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low trust societies, our welfare system, our food banks, even just for example. They depend on people
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being trustworthy and not thinking, oh, my God, these idiots are literally giving us free stuff.
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I'm almost done my amateur philosophizing about telling the truth here. Let me just show you a
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clip from Jordan Peterson, where he talks about this a bit in the context of young women dating men.
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There's a lot of women out there who've never had a positive relationship with any male in their life.
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And maybe not only not a positive relationship, but really a series of pretty negative relationships.
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And so women like that are very leery of any expression of male ability of any sort,
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because they can't distinguish productive competence from arbitrary power. And one of the
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tactics that can be used in that situation is just to try to do everything you can to distance yourself
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as much as you can from any display of male ability, because it can't be distinguished from
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psychopathy. It takes a sophisticated woman to be able to make that distinction. So the other thing you
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see, too, is that young women are much more likely to be seduced by psychopaths than older women,
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because the psychopaths mimic competence. They're confident and women read confidence as a marker
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of competence. And that's reasonable. But it opens up a space for exploitation, because if you can mimic
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confidence, narcissistic false confidence, then you look competent.
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I think he's right. Con men can trick anyone. But I think there's a certain kind of con man that can
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trick young women who aren't as experienced as detecting liars. Trudeau is exactly that kind of
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guy, don't you think? He bamboozles people, particularly women, particularly young women.
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And I think the polls show that, too. He's a liar. And the thing about liars, especially Trudeau,
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is that they lie so often about big things and about little things. And soon,
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lying is their default state. They just do it naturally. It's not a rare exception to get out
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of a crisis for a higher purpose, like Churchill described. It's just lying is just what they do.
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They lubricate every life transaction with a lie. I remember when I told a lie back when I was in grade
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school in the 1970s and my grandma made me write lines. I don't think that's even legal to make a kid
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write lines in 2023. But one of the things she said to me that I still remember to this day is,
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it's a lot easier to remember the truth than to remember a lie.
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And she's right. There's other reasons to tell the truth. But let me show you a story about
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Justin Trudeau lying. And the tangled web it wove. And you will marvel at how trivial the lie is,
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how commonplace it is, how minor the matter was, but that won't excuse it. It will do the opposite in
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your mind, I predict. It will show you that Trudeau standard operating procedure is to lie
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and to cover up the lie and to get staff to cover up the lie. And they will, and they do,
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and they have, and they will continue to. And they also learn, learn how it is under Trudeau,
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learn that the only test of morality is, can you get away with it? So let me tell you about Trudeau's
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lie going back almost 18 months now. And it's documented in hundreds of pages of access to
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information documents that you can see on the website under this video. We'll post it there.
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And the lies are about Trudeau skipping the first Truth and Reconciliation Day holiday,
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and instead going surfing in Tofino, B.C. Do you remember that, sir?
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I mean, this goes to Trudeau's predatory lies. He'll be a male feminist until he can get a woman alone
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in the dark, and then he'll sexually assault her like he did to Rose Knight. He'll go on TV to tell you
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how much he deeply cares about indigenous reconciliation. And then as soon as he thinks
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the cameras are off, he'll say, let's get out of here. I want to go surfing, not doing this boring
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indigenous stuff. Let's start with the first page of this access to information, which is the press
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clippings of the Privy Council Office. Just to remind you, the PCO or Privy Council Office is the group of
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civil servants that support Justin Trudeau's office, the PMO, the prime minister's office. So first page,
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there's a global news story. Trudeau spends first Truth and Reconciliation Day in Tofino on vacation,
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contradicting itinerary. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is spending the first National Truth and
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Reconciliation Day on vacation in Tofino, B.C. with his family, despite his official itinerary
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placing him in private meetings in Ottawa. The prime minister's office confirmed the vacation in
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the statement sent to Global News. Yes, the PM is spending time in Tofino with family for a few days,
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Trudeau's spokesperson wrote. But look at this, his official itinerary from September 30th,
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the official day of the Truth and Reconciliation. It was, well, it claimed he was in Ottawa doing
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private meetings. But that was a lie. And it would not have been found out if someone hadn't snapped
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some pictures of Trudeau on the beach. And even the normally pro-Trudeau media like Global News,
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like the Toronto Star, were so grossed out by him that they started to actually report the truth
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about his lies. And it was a two part truth, wasn't it? Part one was that Trudeau didn't
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actually care about Truth and Reconciliation Day. That's just for TV. And part two is that he tried
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to hide that. And he got his entire staff and the civil service to go along with his life. And he did.
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Turn ahead to page 24 of this access to information document. This story was blowing up in their faces,
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but they refused to change the itinerary that they email and fax, if they still do that, to the world
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every day. They still wanted to keep the lie as much as they could. They didn't want people to be
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alerted to it. Now, they had to correct things online for the journalists who were snooping and
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doing the story. But they didn't want to send out emails to alert the world. Look at this.
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For today's, the update can be made on the web only. No need to reissue. And you'll notice that
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this correction was only made just before 4 p.m. that day. They let the lie linger as long as they
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possibly could. And then they corrected it in as small a place as possible. But even then,
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they kept lying. It was like those Russian dolls, you know, where there's a doll within a doll
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within a doll. In this case, it was lies within lies within lies. Look at this on page 72 of this
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document. Attached, you can find for your approval the draft PM itinerary for tomorrow
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with private meetings only as per previous instructions. Hang on. He was not in private
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meetings. He was surfing. He was photographed on the beach. He wasn't in meetings. Even when he was
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caught lying about where he was, he still lied about what he was doing. And the whole government
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lied with him. The media was outraged. They actually don't mind when Trudeau lies about
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himself or about conservatives or about truckers or about taxes. But they actually thought he cared
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about indigenous people. And there he was surfing. So finally, Trudeau's office, finally under pressure,
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asked the Privy Council to change the location from Ottawa to BC. But just to BC, he still wouldn't admit
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he was in Tofino because everyone knows that's a surfing town and Trudeau's favorite vacation spot.
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Look at page 98. Can we change the location to British Columbia instead of Ottawa for the
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itineraries until Sunday, please? Keep them personal and issue at 7 a.m. day of. Thanks.
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BC, eh? Yeah, no. He still couldn't admit it. Why wouldn't they say Tofino, the town, when they
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suddenly made the switch to just saying the province? Well, look at this text message exchange.
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This is Alex from PCOCOMS. We typically include both city and province in the PM's itinerary.
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Is there a city in BC we can include from Friday to Saturday? Please let me know. Merci. And the reply
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from Trudeau staff. Have we ever not simply listed province in the past? And the reply. Well, we haven't,
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but technically it can be done on the website. If we never have, then let's put Tofino BC, but then
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look lower in this text message exchange. They only want the change on the website. They don't want
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any emails alerting people that he's in Tofino. Look at page 40 here. And just in case you thought this
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was a last minute thing. And maybe they didn't know where Trudeau was going. These access to
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information documents show you they knew, obviously knew they had it all planned on page 40 of document
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six. You can see expense reports for various staff who go along at taxpayers expense to do whatever
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Trudeau wants them to do. You can see, for example, Jared Mulally went from September 30th to October 4th.
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Now I'm not picking on him. I'm just showing you that everyone in the government knew exactly where
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Trudeau was long in advance. And they sent the support staff. A prime minister does not travel
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light. Security, logistics, key, personal staff, support staff. They all know, they all knew he
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was lying about where he was. And they all went along with the lie until someone spotted the liar on the
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beach. I guess Trudeau isn't so worried about misinformation and disinformation, is he? And of course,
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when Trudeau uses those words, he really just means anyone who has a different opinion on him. And
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we already know he thinks they're evil. When Trudeau says misinformation, he just means people who
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disagree with him. But in this case, it wasn't a matter of opinion, was it? Trudeau was not in
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Ottawa. He was not in private meetings. He was surfing on the beach while misleading Canadians about
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his presence so he could skip the Truth and Reconciliation Day. After all, he didn't need to do that,
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go to bat, go to bat. He's very truthful and very reconciled. I mean, really, wasn't this just a
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learning opportunity for you, the little people? What a scoundrel he is. What a wicked liar.
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Welcome back. Well, access to information requests are an important tool for journalists,
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at least those who aren't in the media party, to find out what's really going on. Look,
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I just don't think there's a lot of real journalism going on in Canada anymore. The media party,
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with some notable exceptions, asks softballs, process questions. I want to give credit to the
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Globe and Mail because they are strong on the China file. Steve Chase and Bob Fyfe have done
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excellent work in the last week or so. We haven't had a chance to really dig into it. But first,
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with the Chinese influence in the last election to get freedom and democracy oriented candidates
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replaced by, in Canada, replaced by pro-communist party candidates. And then the latest story,
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that there are Chinese listening devices that were discovered in Canada's Arctic. I think Bob Fyfe
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and Steve Chase deserve credit for that and the Globe and Mail does too.
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But I've just about gone through the whole list of journalists who are willing to do genuine challenges
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to the governing party. And that's why it's so important that independent groups like Rebel News,
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but like our next guest, are out there asking questions, not about, you know, the latest process
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question or just, you know, colorful details about what's going on in parliament, but substantive questions
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about where's our money going and how's the country being run. And I refer to the Canadian Taxpayers
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Federation and their boss, Franco Terrazzano, who made an access to information request that I
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know no journalist would have asked about. And had a journalist asked this question,
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they would have been ignored. I'm talking about asking how many CBC staff make a hundred thousand
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dollars or more a year. That's a great question, isn't it? Well, the man who asked that question and got
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the answer is our guest now. Franco Terrazzano joins us via Skype. Franco, great to see you.
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Great question, by the way. I think there would be a couple of MPs who would ask that question,
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maybe some independent journalists. But for sure, you're not going to see a CBC journalist
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ask that kind of question. They're in a conflict of interest, aren't they?
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Yeah. Well, why would they want to talk about it? Hey, Ezra. But we want to talk about it because
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we know it matters for taxpayers. I mean, after all, the CBC is taking more than a billion dollars
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every year from taxpayers. OK, so let me reveal just how many CBC staffers there are with six
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figure salaries. Plus in 2021, 949 CBC employees took home at least more than a hundred thousand
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dollars in an annual salary. 949 CBC staffers. That's incredible. Now, I know a little bit of
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something about the media business, not just from my experience at Rebel News, but before that at Sun
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News Network. I worked before that at the Sun newspapers, Western Standard. And I and I know enough
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journalists to know that a hundred thousand dollars is the absolute high end. You know, a very senior
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journalist, a 30 year journalist at a leading newspaper might make six figures in the private
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sector. It is extraordinarily rare. And I should tell you, Franco, that the young journalists coming
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right out of J school, a lot of internships are unpaid, if you can believe it. And a lot of entry
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level journalists are making forty thousand dollars a year, maybe. So the idea that you've got nearly
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a thousand journalists making a hundred thousand dollars. Now, they're not all journalists. There's
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lots of bureaucrats at the CBC, too, is absolutely stunning. I saw your numbers. I saw your research.
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And I couldn't help but notice, Franco, that the number is up 30 percent since the pandemic.
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And it's up one hundred and sixteen percent since Trudeau took office. What I'm saying is,
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these may be tough times for Canadians, certainly tough times for journalists, though I don't really
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shed a tear. But at the CBC, these are the boom years, the golden years. It's never been better than
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it is right now to work as a government journalist, Franco.
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And you know what? That's what's so crazy, right? I mean, just for starters, nine hundred and forty
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nine CBC staffers in twenty twenty one with a six figure salary. OK, but let's look at how the numbers
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have ballooned since Trudeau came to power since he took the big seat. The prime minister's chair,
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we have seen the number of CBC staffers increase every single year since the Trudeau government took over
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and has doubled since 2015. And I'm glad you brought up the pandemic because it's really
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eye popping there, too. There are now two hundred and twenty more CBC staffers who make more than
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one hundred thousand dollars a year in salary alone since the beginning of the pandemic and
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extra two hundred and twenty since the onset of COVID-19. Now, you bring up some really interesting
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points here, right? Because as the CBC, as it is booming with more taxpayers money, well, what's
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happening to their competitors in the private sector or independent media? Well, you hear many stories
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quite often of newsrooms being cut to the bone. But an even better comparison is, well, what's happening
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to the taxpayers who are footing these bills, especially during the pandemic when so many people
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took pay cuts in the private sector, when so many people lost their job or their business to know
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that they are paying more than a billion dollars a year to the CBC? Right. And then you see these
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numbers startling numbers where there's nine hundred and forty nine CBC staffers who would be on the
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sunshine list. Frank, I want to tell you one more thing. I want to tell you about the psychology of
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what's going on. First of all, the CBC is larger than all the rest of the news
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journalists combined in the country. So the CBC, it's not just a player. It is the dominant player.
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It's the sumo wrestler in the room. And so they are all by nature grateful to be making six figures.
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But there's a secondary effect. You just mentioned how it's difficult in the rest of the economy,
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including in other media companies. Post Media, the largest private sector media company,
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even though they're on the government teat, they are still laying off all the private media
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are laying off. So put yourself in the mindset for a second, Franco. You're working for the Toronto
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Star. You're working for the Globe and Mail. You're working for the Sun, whatever your local newspaper is.
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And you're maybe making 50 grand a year. And you're thinking, not only am I not making a lot of money,
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but I might well get laid off. The only place that I can have a secure future is being a government
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journalist at the CBC. So I'm going to start my CBC style journalism now at the Regina Leader Post,
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at the Saskatoon Star Phoenix, at the Calgary Herald, at the Edmunds Journal, at the Vancouver Sun.
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I want to start putting together a portfolio of pro-government journalism now so that when I'm
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laid off here at my private newspaper, I can get a gig with the CBC, who will be the last man standing,
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Franco. It's not just that they're so well paid. It's that every other journalist in the country is
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thinking, geez, if I want to stay in the industry, I'm going to have to look at moving over there.
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So in that way, I put it to you, the CBC actually shapes the coverage of the private media in Canada
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too. Well, that's really interesting, Ezra. And I think we can agree for sure that there is no
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shortage of reasons to defund the CBC. Isn't that right? But hey, I got another access to information
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request that will make your viewers' blood boil even more. And it's this, okay? During the pandemic
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years, the CBC handed out $51 million in bonuses and pay raises to its employees. You hear that?
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$51 million in bonuses and raises to the CBC's employees during the pandemic. So Ezra, if they
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have all this cash just lying around where they can hand out millions and millions of dollars in
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bonuses and raises during a pandemic, I'm pretty sure they don't need to be taking all this cash from
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taxpayers. And oh, by the way, the recent fiscal update from the Trudeau government gave the CBC
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another $42 million to recover from the pandemic after they just handed out $51 million in bonuses
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and raises. Does that make sense to you? No, it doesn't. And by the way, the pandemic and the
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lockdowns, which were atrocious on the civil liberty side and atrocious on the public health side,
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but they were a benefit to one thing, people who serve you when you're locked in your house.
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So Netflix and Disney Plus and all these companies boomed during the lockdown. In fact,
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now that the lockdowns are over, these companies are not meeting their same earnings targets.
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But during 2020, 2021, 2022, that was the golden age for Amazon, for anything internet-ish,
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anything downloadable-ish. And the CBC should have been making money and sending it back to the
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taxpayer. But not only were they not making money, they were handing out bonuses like crazy. And I
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understand they actually shut down some of their TV broadcasts during the pandemic just because.
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So they, only the CBC would waste a, like, how do you lose money when every one of your citizens is
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locked in their home and forced to watch TV all day? The CBC will find a way and then they'll ask for a
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bigger bailout and then they'll ask for a raise. It's crazy time, Franco. It's unbelievable.
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Hey, there's only one other industry that you forgot to mention that was booming during the pandemic,
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the government. The industry that is the government was booming, right? While the constituents,
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the people they're supposed to work for, just felt so much pain, whether it was job losses or even
00:29:37.660
business losses, let's not forget that the government at large was taking pay raises, bonuses to the
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tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, all paid for by the taxpayer that has been taking it on the
00:29:50.860
chin, whether it's through these different types of regulations or the restrictions or just the tax
00:29:56.720
increases that we've seen. You know, I'll never forget the fact that Destination Canada, another
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crown corporation, which is supposed to promote Canadian tourism abroad, while people were illegally
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or legally prevented from coming into Canada, while the restaurant industry was shut down, when the
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tourism industry was shut down, Destination Canada still handed out bonuses and raises to its
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employees. Unbelievable. So frustrating now that I'm thinking about that. You know, I list, I often list
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institutions that failed us during the lockdowns. I mentioned the media, I mentioned the opposition
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parties, I mentioned so many groups, but you're reminding me of the chambers of commerce, like the
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Canadian Food and Restaurant Association, all the retail associations, they were silent as their members
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were slaughtered by these government lockdowns. I'm reminded of that painful fact. Hey, let me throw in one
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more thing at you because it, and I don't know if it was your access to information or some other way
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this came to light. But a few years ago, some viewers might recall that the president of the CBC
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was named Hubert Lacroix. And he got a huge six-figure salary as the, but he's no longer the president,
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Catherine Tate is. Bizarrely, so weirdly, Justin Trudeau personally requested that Hubert Lacroix's salary
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retroactively be given a $40,000 raise. I don't know if you saw that story in the news today.
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I haven't. No, I haven't. That's crazy. How do you even do that? He's gone. He no longer works for the CBC.
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He is retired. They have a new president. But according to cabinet records, Trudeau himself, or how do you do that?
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Can I get a raise at my last job, Franco? Only the CBC and Trudeau, but that sends a message, doesn't it?
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It says, hey, journalists, Justin Trudeau will take good care of you, so you better take good care of him.
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That's a crazy, crazy story. Well, I'm so proud of the work you're doing. And as I started this segment,
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I said, there's very few independent-minded, skeptical, curious, accountability-oriented people
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in the country, very few journalists. And I'm so glad you guys did this access to information requests.
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Tell our viewers where the best place to go is to get the latest on the Taxpayers Federation.
00:32:20.240
Hey, well, thanks so much for having us on today to talk about this. Please check out taxpayer.com,
00:32:25.240
check out our newsroom, check out our petition. And again, just thanks so much for letting us come on
00:32:29.760
to talk on the show today. Well, it's our pleasure, and you're doing great work. And folks,
00:32:33.680
if you're not already a supporter of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, you really got to be, for the
00:32:38.760
same reason that Rebel needs your support, we don't take government money, and neither do they.
00:32:43.780
And that is 100% why they are able to speak truth to power. So go to taxpayer.com and become a supporter.
00:32:51.100
I mean, you can count on one hand the number of independent groups like the Taxpayers Federation
00:32:57.060
who hold the government to account. And I tell you, if we had 100 guys like Franco Teresano in this
00:33:02.140
country, we would be free. If we had 10 guys, we'd have a fighting chance. So go to taxpayer.com. I
00:33:08.300
know most of our viewers already are supporters, Frank Yoba. You're doing a great job, and thanks
00:33:12.160
for being with us today. Thank you, Ezra. All right. Stay with us, folks. Your letters to me next.
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Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me, Joe B. says, Ezra, thanks for the great interview with
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Andrew Lawton. I think he is one of the most intelligent and perceptive people you have as
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a conservative voice. You are the other one. Andrew is spot on. You two guys are among the
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best in our country for honest news. I truly appreciate both of you. Hey, thanks very much.
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I really appreciate the compliments. And I share your feelings about Andrew. And you know,
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he's also a genuinely nice guy, I got to tell you. Hardworking guy, smart guy, very strong
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work ethic. And I enjoy seeing him occasionally, even around the world. When you're far away,
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like we went to the World Economic Forum in Davos, you get a little lonely. You know, I got
00:34:06.660
a family here in Canada. So to be away for a week, I sort of miss them. Obviously, it's not
00:34:11.080
the same to be with a friend than with family. But it sure was nice to be with other Canadian
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conservatives. We met up with him at the World Economic Forum. So he really is one of my favorite
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guys. And I share your thoughts about him completely. So thank you for that kind letter.
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Marita P. says, Ezra, please just think about this. You know about the mega cities World Economic
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Forum is planning, e.g. Holland, I think it is. Farmers are protesting the confiscation of their
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farmland. So it has been a fight. But consider an easier approach, perhaps. Toxic land, people
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begging government assistance, eventual government buyout. What better plan for a mega city? Soft
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approach, perhaps. Not a conspiracy theory, just thinking. Always interesting. Look below the
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I, you know, OK, I hear your interesting ideas there, but I don't think I'm convinced that the
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war on farmers is about creating a mega city. I don't think so. I think it is about the same thing
00:35:11.540
that the war on energy is. The war on fossil fuels that just transition off of energy. It is to make
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energy expensive and scarce and to create energy poverty. And you might be thinking, why on earth
00:35:29.140
would anyone do that? Well, to make renewables, solar, wind, other schemes like that, suddenly
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economically palatable by comparison and to line the pockets of those who are in those industries
00:35:43.140
and to make it tough for life on earth. I mean, all these people are depopulationists.
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Same thing with food. Make food scarce, expensive. Make, you know, I mean, the price of eggs these
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days, the price of meat these days, drive them up to make life harder. So the ordinary person has to
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reduce their life, lives in energy poverty and food poverty. And by contrast, you know, beyond meat
00:36:11.020
burgers and synthetic meat and crickets and insects become more affordable by comparison. And maybe if
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you're too poor to buy eggs and meat, maybe you'll eat the crickets, you'll eat the insects.
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I don't think it's about making bigger cities. I think it's about making energy and food
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expensive and scarce. And I think that that's an atrocious anti-human agenda.
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Matthias W says, Hi, Ezra. I'm having difficulties understanding two things from your Ukraine discussion.
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What is wrong with pulling Western commerce out of Russia and leaving China to fill the void?
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Isn't it better not to profit from the evil of a government? Should the West profit in Russia
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while it is attacking Ukraine? Otherwise, how can you criticize the military corporations from
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wanting to profit from a war or George Soros from choosing to participate in the confiscation of
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Hungarian Jews property? And what is wrong with Ukraine wanting to recapture all of its territory
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pre-2014? Didn't Israel capture territory lost by its attackers in the 50s and 60s? I can
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understand not wanting to escalate the war by launching an attack deep into Russia.
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That should be avoided. Okay. Interesting letter. Thank you for that. And I would answer two points
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for it. The first is, you know, sanctions are often designed to hurt the government. In many cases,
00:37:31.160
they wind up hurting ordinary people. But in this case, all that's happened is you have,
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you know, Chinese automakers instead of Ford, Chrysler, other Western automakers.
00:37:42.180
You have Huawei phones instead of Apple or Android phones. So I don't know if you've accomplished
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anything economically. I don't think you've punished anyone. I think you have just given China a huge
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market and fused those two countries together. I think there's a big moral difference between selling
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a Big Mac or a Starbucks coffee or an Apple phone to a citizen in Moscow versus selling a missile
00:38:10.420
or a bomb to be shot one side or the other, by the way. But my main point yesterday was
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Russia and China are forming an alliance again, which is something that the West fought very hard
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to break. Now, the second point you made was about reclaiming Crimea or other parts of Ukraine that
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Russia seized eight or so years ago. And the thing is, that's just not going to happen in my
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admittedly amateur layman's view, because Russia has nuclear weapons. That's the point here,
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is that you're not fighting in Yemen or Rwanda or even Vietnam. At the end of the day,
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if the bad guy is on the edge of defeat, he may well push that button. I mean, the total war and
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total unconditional surrender of the Axis powers in World War II was precisely because they didn't
00:39:10.400
have nukes. Well, Russia does. And I'm not sure, by the way, that the West can beat Russia in a
00:39:17.620
conventional war in Ukraine. Maybe it can, but I'm not sure about that. You saw Jan Stoltenberg saying
00:39:22.320
NATO is running out of ammunition. But if you were actually to break into Crimea, which has been
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formally and legally under Russia's parliament annexed into Russia and try and liberate that and
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recapture that by Ukraine, Russia would most likely resort to unconventional weapons. And my point is,
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is that worth World War III? In whose possible calculations is that worth a nuclear confrontation?
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And that last video I played yesterday of Claire Daly, she's a socialist from Ireland. I can't think
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of someone in the world I would have less in common with. But my God, I'm glad some human somewhere,
00:40:09.880
some politician somewhere is saying, can we please define what a victory is besides burning up $100
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billion, grinding Ukraine into powder and risking nuclear war? What exactly is a victory? I saw our
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own Melanie Jolie, perhaps the least accomplished, least wise foreign minister in Canadian history,
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saying that they're going to fight for Ukrainian victory no matter what.
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Can I please ask what that victory looks like? I don't think Trudeau knows, and I don't think Biden
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knows. And I don't want to go on much longer about Ukraine, but I think things are very troubling.
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And the closer union between Russia and China is something that I think will haunt the West for
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decades. And for what? On that terrible note, let me say goodbye to you. I hope you enjoyed our
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chat with my favorite guy, Franco Teresano. And wow, to see Trudeau lying in real time and his staff
00:41:08.160
working with, there must have been a hundred different people on those different documents
00:41:12.600
who were aware of Trudeau's lies and worked with them to cover up his lies. That is who your prime
00:41:19.120
minister is. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,