Rebel News Podcast - March 01, 2024


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau wants to criminalize words, and no one is safe from his wrath


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

169.29884

Word Count

6,900

Sentence Count

522

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

Bill C-63 was reintroduced this week by the Justice Minister, whose title now includes Minister of State for Online Harms. This law is astonishing, if you ve been under a rock or haven t been watching my various shows on it. It creates a sentence of life in prison for hate, and has absurd rules like social media companies must take complaints down, complain about matter down within 24 hours, or face extraordinary fines.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I'm going to take one more pass at C63, Trudeau's new censorship law.
00:00:05.240 I'm going to tell you some of the foreign reaction, which obviously is more critical
00:00:08.780 than the Canadian reaction, because most Canadian journalists are on the payroll
00:00:12.260 of Justin Trudeau. They don't dare criticize him. I'll show you what some interesting
00:00:16.080 out-of-Canada voices have to say. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to
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00:00:29.060 Justin Trudeau, and it shows. All right, here's today's podcast.
00:00:48.000 Tonight, international reaction to Trudeau's censorship plans grows. It's February 29th,
00:00:54.860 and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:59.060 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:01:11.460 I can't get over Bill C63, the Online Harms Act. I sort of knew it was coming. This was
00:01:18.420 introduced a few years ago by the Heritage Minister, believe it or not, when it was Stephen
00:01:23.540 Gilboa. It was reintroduced this week by the Justice Minister, whose title now includes
00:01:28.780 Minister of State for Online Harms. That's how important it is to Trudeau. Just a super quick
00:01:34.560 summary, if you've been under a rock or haven't been watching my various shows on it. This law is
00:01:40.960 astonishing. It creates a sentence of life in prison for hate. It has absurd rules, like social media
00:01:48.880 companies must take complaints down, complain about matter down within 24 hours, or face extraordinary
00:01:55.320 fines. You can be charged for anything that you write, including historical things. As long as
00:02:02.640 they're still on the internet, and you have the ability to take them down, you are liable for those
00:02:07.260 words. Words are being criminalized. In particular, if you say anything against people who are transgender,
00:02:13.880 they identify as or express as a woman if they're a man, that's one of the particular things that is
00:02:21.900 a characteristic you cannot criticize in a manner that would likely lead to hate.
00:02:28.700 There's a bounty for nuisance complaints. It's not just going to be prosecutors out there on behalf of
00:02:34.060 the government suing people. Anyone, even non-citizens, even secret complainants can file complaints
00:02:40.720 against you or you or me and have a hearing and keep their secrecy the whole time. One of the most
00:02:46.560 shocking things is preemptive restraining orders with extraordinary powers. For example, on the mere
00:02:53.360 suspicion that you may say something hateful, preemptively, you can be put under house arrest.
00:02:59.000 You can have to have an ankle brace at one of those monitors. You can be forced to give blood or
00:03:04.580 alcohol, sorry, blood or urine tests. It's just very bizarre. It's so bizarre that really smart people
00:03:11.780 who read the news a lot just said this can't be true. One of the smartest people I know is Jordan
00:03:18.980 Peterson, the professor from Toronto who's actually world famous with his rules for life. I had written
00:03:25.700 this little tweet in response to someone who asked a question. Here's what I said, and Jordan Peterson
00:03:31.620 saw this. I said, the Online Harms Act specifically states that if there is an offensive publication
00:03:38.180 that is still online and you have the ability to delete it, you are liable for it. Literally
00:03:42.940 everything you've ever written online will now be actionable against you. Now that doesn't sound
00:03:50.080 right. How can that be? Well, Jordan Peterson asked me that question. He said, where does it state that,
00:03:56.540 Mr. Levant? He called me Mr. Levant. A genuine question. Well, I saw that a few
00:04:01.540 hours later and I wrote back and I said, the bill would create a new section 13-2 of the Canadian
00:04:07.440 Human Rights Act. It says you're liable for anything you've ever posted if you have the
00:04:12.740 power to remove it now. And then I have a link, a clickable link there. And I say, screenshot below.
00:04:19.700 I took a picture of it. And then I said, you can learn more at our website, stopthecensorship.ca. So
00:04:24.240 there it is. I think he thought maybe I was exaggerating. And he wrote back cynically or
00:04:30.600 sarcastically, he said, excellent, retroactive crime. Thanks, Justin Trudeau. That's an evil I
00:04:36.920 hadn't considered before. Sincerely, Satan. His point being, of course, all criminal code
00:04:43.080 prosecutions are for things that you have done. But I think he was astonished that anything you've done
00:04:48.220 years or even decades ago, if it's online, you can be prosecuted for new rules for what you did
00:04:54.200 then when it was legal then. Not only is that a novelty, but of course, the pre-crimes we were
00:05:01.240 talking about is a novelty. This law is really about time travel, isn't it? Now, Scott Adams,
00:05:07.200 who, as you may know, is the inventor of the Dilbert cartoon, and he's become quite a popular
00:05:12.160 political commentator, he saw this exchange between Jordan Peterson and me. He saw my response
00:05:18.980 where I had a link to the primary document, the bill itself, and I had a screenshot of it just so
00:05:24.580 people didn't have to do the clicking themselves if they didn't want to. It's all that it's in plain
00:05:28.680 English. In fact, it's a very short section. And he just didn't believe it. He said, it's too on the
00:05:36.200 nose, he said. It's just, it's too crazy. Something's got to be amiss. Here's a clip of his popular
00:05:42.660 live stream. Now, here's a story that I swear to God, I can't believe it's true. But, you know,
00:05:49.440 Jordan Peterson was interacting with the story, and there was a source was shown. So maybe it's true.
00:05:57.100 Canada is introducing the HARMS Act, where the government can put you under house arrest
00:06:04.840 or make you wear an ankle bracelet if someone else believes that you might in the future write
00:06:11.360 something hateful online. What? If somebody thinks you might in the future write something hateful
00:06:22.340 online, Canada can put a bracelet on you and give you house arrest. How can that be true?
00:06:29.540 I'm going to put a stake in the story and say it's not true.
00:06:34.840 That there's something missing. Now, I saw the source, and it looked like an official bill.
00:06:43.500 There's something wrong here. I'm going to say this is too on the nose,
00:06:48.000 and that there's no way Canada is going to punish people for a crime they didn't do.
00:06:56.780 I'm going to say no. Too on the nose. Now, I get that I saw the source.
00:07:01.840 I get that I saw the source. Don't believe it.
00:07:07.000 Yeah. I know why he's thinking that is because he's, I'm going to guess he's about 60 years old,
00:07:14.300 and his whole life he's seen Canada maybe out of the corner of his eye. Maybe he's visited Canada.
00:07:20.980 And he said Canada is sort of like a calmer, slightly more British, slightly more French America.
00:07:27.180 They have the same civil liberties, civil democracy, rule of law. These things sound so crazy. It just can't be.
00:07:34.880 It just can't be. And I know that instinct. I know that feeling.
00:07:39.620 You don't want to give up on your theory of the world, even when an uncomfortable fact comes.
00:07:44.900 And the truth is, C-63 is an uncomfortable fact. It is an un-Canadian, unfree, illiberal, authoritarian, tyrannical rule.
00:07:53.660 And a lot of friends of Canada would rather just not want to see it or say you must have something wrong than to acknowledge that's the troublesome state we're in.
00:08:03.960 I've been watching this issue very closely. I was staying up late just looking at reactions to it.
00:08:09.720 And I have actually seen no supporters of C-63 other than paid activists or people who think they will get paid from it.
00:08:20.100 But there is no demand for this. Canadians are talking about a lot of things out there.
00:08:25.100 Grocery prices, rent prices, out-of-control immigration, carbon taxes, traffic, waiting lists for health care, waiting lines for schools.
00:08:35.320 There's a lot of things people are upset about.
00:08:37.320 I mean, have you ever heard anyone wandering around saying,
00:08:39.800 what we need is for the government to set up, not one, not two, but three new censorship agencies and have a life in prison?
00:08:46.500 Like, I've never heard any person say that.
00:08:49.520 Bernie Farber, a grifter who is with the Anti-Hate Network, or used to be at least.
00:08:55.080 He loves this because this is his business.
00:08:58.020 Stephen Camp, who for years was with the Edmonton Police Hate Unit and is now on a Trudeau hate team.
00:09:05.200 He loves it.
00:09:06.020 And to my great embarrassment, one of the official Jewish agencies in this country called CJA, which I think says for Council for Israel and Jewish Affairs, they came out big time for it.
00:09:17.940 I was deeply embarrassed that they did so in my name.
00:09:20.180 The J in CJA is Jewish.
00:09:22.120 I'm Jewish.
00:09:23.080 They didn't ask me.
00:09:24.480 Here's what they wrote.
00:09:26.360 Tell your member of parliament to support Canada's Jews.
00:09:30.120 And Bill C-63.
00:09:32.240 And then they have a link.
00:09:33.260 They say, as Jews know all too well, what happens online does not stay online.
00:09:37.620 It affects our community, our children, and real life.
00:09:40.480 On Monday, February 26th, Minister of Justice Arif Varani tabled the long-awaited Bill C-63, the Online Harms Act.
00:09:47.540 With this act, we have a chance to diminish Jew hatred online.
00:09:51.280 Just scroll down underneath that tweet to see all the replies, mainly from pro-Jewish people, pro-Jewish allies.
00:10:02.400 That is, not Jews themselves, but Christians and conservatives saying, what are you doing?
00:10:07.680 I recognize some of the names on there.
00:10:09.300 There are some Jews saying, don't do this in my name.
00:10:11.860 But there's some righteous Gentiles saying, this is a quick way to lose a lot of friends.
00:10:18.300 Now, the first thing to say is that CJA is on Trudeau's payroll.
00:10:23.260 Here's a link showing just a portion of the grants that they received from the government.
00:10:29.060 I counted up about a quarter million dollars there from Trudeau.
00:10:32.280 I don't know.
00:10:32.780 I guess money talks.
00:10:33.780 But imagine being the Jewish lobby and supporting Trudeau.
00:10:39.380 Imagine supporting these guys.
00:10:41.180 Here's Mark Miller, who's in cabinet only because he was part of Justin Trudeau's wedding party.
00:10:45.420 Like, he is a wholly untalented and incompetent man.
00:10:50.020 But he's been given important files because he was there at Trudeau's wedding.
00:10:53.460 Here he is saying that Jews in Gaza who were kidnapped by Hamas, including babies,
00:11:01.900 babies, they're not the hostages.
00:11:04.140 The hostages are the Gazans themselves.
00:11:06.920 Look at this.
00:11:07.600 I undertook with my cabinet colleagues to help push local authorities, including Israel and
00:11:13.140 Egypt, to make sure that we could facilitate their transition into Cairo and then complete
00:11:19.400 biometrics and then to Canada so that they can be in safety.
00:11:22.200 So it's very frustrating to me.
00:11:24.300 I don't want to put together a program that is failing.
00:11:27.000 But we are all failing Gazans at this point.
00:11:28.820 And I think that is something that we need to realize that they are under their it's probably
00:11:35.780 the largest hostage taking right now and in the world.
00:11:39.900 And it is something that Canada can play a small role in it.
00:11:44.520 We can't be everything to everyone.
00:11:45.860 But if Canada can play a role in this and getting people out and safe, we're willing to play it.
00:11:51.660 But right now we haven't had the success that we wanted to.
00:11:55.040 And here's a clip from later in the day when Melanie Jolie, the foreign minister, was asked
00:11:59.280 about a massacre of Gazans by Israel.
00:12:03.660 But it wasn't by Israel.
00:12:05.080 It was by Hamas.
00:12:06.700 They drove an aid truck over starving Gazans that Hamas was stealing the aid from.
00:12:12.460 It was Hamas that killed the Gazans.
00:12:15.380 The question was put to Jolie.
00:12:17.340 She obviously knew what the facts were, but she went with it because the Liberal Party of
00:12:22.060 Canada has gone full pro-Hamas.
00:12:23.380 Here, watch for yourself.
00:12:25.300 This morning, an Israeli attack killed 112, at least 112 Palestinians waiting for food aid
00:12:31.040 in Gaza.
00:12:32.120 At this point, what more can you do now that you've called for a ceasefire to urge Israel
00:12:36.240 to stop?
00:12:37.220 Indeed, we have called for a ceasefire.
00:12:39.060 When it comes to what happened in Gaza today, you've heard me.
00:12:45.540 I must say, I think this is a nightmare.
00:12:50.580 I think the violence must stop.
00:12:53.160 I think civilians can not be targeted.
00:12:57.220 And at the end of the day, we need to make sure that international aid is sent into Gaza
00:13:02.580 and that people are protected when they go and get that aid that they need to survive.
00:13:09.460 So we are calling for both parties to respect the International Court of Justice decision.
00:13:15.780 And at all times, international humanitarian law must be respected.
00:13:19.540 Here's the drone footage showing what happened.
00:13:22.500 It wasn't Israeli troops that killed them.
00:13:24.760 It was Hamas on the truck and driving the truck.
00:13:27.940 Imagine thinking that these are the good guys.
00:13:31.660 Well, let me show you what I wrote to CJ.
00:13:34.100 And I should tell you that, I don't know, about a decade ago or a little more than that,
00:13:37.960 I was actually on the board of directors of the precursor organization to CJ called the Canada Israel Community.
00:13:44.460 It was a volunteer position.
00:13:46.700 I was not elected to it.
00:13:48.120 CJ is not elected by Jews.
00:13:49.860 They claim to speak for Jews, but they're just sort of self-appointed in that regard.
00:13:54.000 They're actually recruited by big donors who are mainly Montreal Jewish liberals.
00:14:01.080 I was sort of the token conservative.
00:14:02.760 They thought they'd better bring me aboard because they knew this was, I guess, more than 10 years ago now.
00:14:07.980 They knew that Stephen Harper was coming up and the liberals were going to go into the wilderness for a while.
00:14:12.240 And they wanted to have some connection to the conservatives.
00:14:15.380 So I got to see them from the inside.
00:14:17.940 Let me read to you what I wrote online in response to CJ.
00:14:22.900 I said, this is a disgrace and it is not supported by ordinary Jews.
00:14:27.880 This is a statement by official Jews who happen to have been paid $250,000 by Trudeau.
00:14:33.280 And I had a link that I showed you earlier.
00:14:36.040 I said, they're Trudeau's house Jews, willing to sell out their own interests for a few bucks.
00:14:40.120 They're the corporate equivalent of Anthony Housefather.
00:14:43.300 He's a liberal cabinet minister who has decided.
00:14:45.300 He said, keeping his cabinet minister's chauffeured limousine, an expense account, is more important to him than representing his conscience or his constituents.
00:14:57.160 Philosophically, censorship is contrary to Jewish ethics of debate and dissent.
00:15:01.240 Two Jews, three opinions, goes the same.
00:15:03.260 Democratically, CJ has no mandate to say this on behalf of anyone.
00:15:08.040 Not that they ever do.
00:15:09.060 CJ's board is handpicked by liberal affiliated donors, not elected by grassroots Jews.
00:15:13.340 But pragmatically, this censorship law will be used against Jews and Zionists.
00:15:18.620 The woke left already says Zionism is racism.
00:15:22.140 This law will weaponize that.
00:15:24.140 Existing human rights laws have already been used to outlaw criticism of Islam as Islamophobia.
00:15:29.620 I myself was prosecuted for 900 days for publishing the Danish cartoons of Mohammed.
00:15:34.720 And Mark Stein was, too, for questioning unlimited immigration.
00:15:38.560 These official Jews think it's 1990, when they had a monopoly on political cancel culture,
00:15:44.140 when the Muslim population in Canada was trivial,
00:15:46.640 and when the threat was harmless, poor, white, anti-Semites with obscure blogs.
00:15:52.000 Today, the anti-Israel left dominates cancel culture,
00:15:55.220 and anti-Semites are rich, powerful, and more numerous than the Jews.
00:15:58.480 It's a laugh to think that Trudeau cares about anti-Semitism.
00:16:01.740 He allows it in his own caucus, in his own cabinet, and he indulges in it himself.
00:16:07.160 Time after time, his government hires brutal Jew haters to senior positions in government,
00:16:12.160 from Amira El-Gawabi to Laith Marouf to Omar El-Gabra.
00:16:15.620 Do the official Jews really think that Trudeau's going to stop
00:16:18.100 the tidal wave of Islamist and leftist anti-Semitism online when he abides it in real life?
00:16:23.840 It's already against the criminal code to, quote,
00:16:26.600 promote anti-Semitism by condoning, denying, or downplaying the Holocaust.
00:16:30.380 That's actually in the criminal code, Section 319.
00:16:34.020 It's already against the criminal code to, quote, advocate or promote genocide.
00:16:39.320 That is Section 318.
00:16:41.100 That is against the law.
00:16:42.080 It's a crime right now.
00:16:43.680 Both of those things are happening every day in the streets of Toronto and Montreal and elsewhere,
00:16:47.140 and Trudeau hasn't said a word against it, let alone prosecute anyone.
00:16:51.680 Why would the official Jews think that Trudeau would suddenly turn into a savior of the Jews online?
00:16:56.260 The official Jews are just an arm of the Liberal Party, I wrote.
00:16:58.980 The former head of the Canada-Israel Committee, Mark Gold, is now Trudeau's leader in the Senate.
00:17:04.080 CJ's support for the censorship is not in the Jewish interest, but it is in Trudeau's interest,
00:17:09.200 and that's what's important to them.
00:17:10.400 The majority of Canadians, time and again, tell posters they're against government censorship,
00:17:14.900 and those numbers are highest amongst conservatives, the very people who support Israel the most.
00:17:21.080 CJ's support for Trudeau's censorship will not convince a single person,
00:17:24.760 but it will antagonize the Jews' remaining friends in Canada.
00:17:27.960 This is stupid, self-destructive, dishonest, and partisan.
00:17:31.960 The fact that CJ's position is identical to the position of the Islamist National Council for Canadian Muslims
00:17:37.220 tells you all you need to know.
00:17:38.340 If this were 1940, CJ would be auditioning for the role of the Judenrat.
00:17:43.360 So gross, or as the Jews would say, a shanda for the goyim.
00:17:47.240 In Yiddish, that means a shame unto the people.
00:17:50.120 It's an embarrassment for the Jewish community and the broader community.
00:17:54.360 I'm embarrassed for them, and it's stupid.
00:17:57.400 Do they really think that Justin Trudeau is suddenly going to go to war against anti-Semitism?
00:18:02.280 And what does it mean to go against anti-Semitism online,
00:18:06.620 when you've got actual violence on the streets, Molotov cocktails thrown at schools and synagogues,
00:18:13.400 let alone just basic things like extremely violent graffiti around Toronto,
00:18:20.140 harassment of people,
00:18:22.280 smashing things,
00:18:25.640 terrifying people at Jewish-run businesses,
00:18:30.560 going into malls masked up and threatening people with murder?
00:18:36.620 You think the problem is some tweet?
00:18:39.040 The problem's in the streets.
00:18:40.900 What fools would think, oh, banning things on the internet will solve this problem that way?
00:18:45.580 That's what the Liberal Party would say, not what any Jewish advocates would say.
00:18:49.060 I'm embarrassed for them.
00:18:52.400 But other people who aren't paid by the government,
00:18:55.640 like I say, it's only people who are on the payroll who support this.
00:18:58.760 I've literally never met nor even heard of anyone who likes this,
00:19:02.240 other than if they're part of that grifting race huckster industry.
00:19:06.160 But I think the rest of the world is starting to wake up,
00:19:08.040 even more than Canada's own media.
00:19:09.380 I did one hour on the channel Infowars today,
00:19:13.380 letting Americans know what's going on.
00:19:14.960 I was invited by Glenn Beck on tomorrow morning.
00:19:17.060 I'll be on his radio show at about 9.30 a.m. Eastern time to talk about this.
00:19:22.440 I think the world outside of Canada is waking up,
00:19:25.840 and they're shocked.
00:19:26.580 Like I say, neither Jordan Peterson, who I guess is Ontarian,
00:19:29.560 but he's sort of a global force these days.
00:19:31.000 And Scott Adams wouldn't even believe it.
00:19:32.720 He said, I saw the proof.
00:19:33.780 I just don't believe it.
00:19:35.440 I think this is going to get more coverage internationally than in Canada
00:19:39.460 because, of course, as you know,
00:19:41.460 Canadian journalists are all on Trudeau's payroll, just like CJ is.
00:19:45.940 I'm trying to figure out what to do.
00:19:48.520 We've got a petition at stopthecensorship.ca.
00:19:51.660 We've had that up there for a while.
00:19:53.120 It's actually got about 60,000 signatures.
00:19:55.520 If you want to add yours, feel free.
00:19:57.060 The reason for that is to show politicians how big an issue this is.
00:20:00.760 Imagine if we got 100,000 or 200,000 signatures.
00:20:03.340 That's a mighty big petition.
00:20:05.880 I think that would demonstrate to politicians how wrong this is.
00:20:09.840 When was the last time you heard of a petition that big?
00:20:11.740 It's pretty rare.
00:20:13.420 We're not in a position to stop it legally yet because it's not enacted yet.
00:20:18.320 We have to wait till this law takes effect and then wait till they operationalize it.
00:20:23.520 I don't know if simply having it on the books is enough.
00:20:25.880 I think maybe they have to start hunting and censoring people before we can take action,
00:20:30.340 but we will.
00:20:30.820 In the meantime, I think step one for us is to teach the world, spread the word about
00:20:36.500 what's going on, and argue with people like the fools of the Jewish agency who think that
00:20:41.780 this censorship is going to work out well for them.
00:20:43.720 Censorship never works out well.
00:20:46.280 Well, that's trying to get it out of my system, but I'm not going to get it out of my system.
00:20:50.520 This is such a terrifying thing.
00:20:52.400 It really is an existential threat to anyone whose motto is telling the other side of the story
00:20:58.080 because the other side of the story is being criminalized.
00:21:01.840 We're going to fight this as hard as we can and as smart as we can,
00:21:05.620 and the fight has begun already.
00:21:08.960 Stay with us.
00:21:10.040 Mark Morano's next.
00:21:11.060 Hey, welcome back.
00:21:23.740 Obviously, we are very—I'm not going to say that we're obsessed with Bill C-63.
00:21:28.700 It's like the saying goes, you may not be interested in politics, but politics is interested in you.
00:21:34.220 We can pretend C-63 is just a regular piece of news, but that would be false.
00:21:39.460 C-63 is a hunter-killer piece of legislation designed to silence peaceful protest and criticism of Justin Trudeau
00:21:47.240 with the most authoritarian means ever seen in the free world.
00:21:50.500 It's just that.
00:21:51.960 So please forgive me for focusing on it for days in a row.
00:21:55.660 But there are other things going on in the world.
00:21:59.200 Authoritarianism and tyranny take many forms.
00:22:01.120 I don't know if you remember a few months ago when I went to the Netherlands to meet with Geert Wilders.
00:22:07.560 He's the leader of the Party for Freedom, who stunned observers by winning the most seats in their parliamentary election.
00:22:15.080 It was very interesting to go out there, and I had a 20-minute interview with him,
00:22:19.040 which I thought was very exciting for me,
00:22:21.420 but there was one moment in the interview that was just weird.
00:22:26.100 And let me play it for you, and let me comment on it, and let me introduce our next guest.
00:22:32.060 Do you remember this from that interview?
00:22:33.780 People feel that they are totally interjected, the Dutchmen, the indigenous people.
00:22:38.360 They believe that while we spent 60, 17 billion euros a year
00:22:44.340 when it comes to nitrogen or climate change or all those other things,
00:22:51.060 that they have trouble paying for their utilities, the rent, the gasoline for their car,
00:23:00.160 the social security or the healthcare system.
00:23:03.040 So we believe that we should stop feeding those leftish, liberal, ideological nonsense issues,
00:23:10.680 and we should make sure that our people have enough money in their pocket
00:23:15.440 and really can help our economy and help themselves.
00:23:18.200 Geert Wilders was talking about nitrogen, one of the elements on the periodic table,
00:23:24.680 the same way that Canadians talk about carbon.
00:23:27.700 Carbon. Canadian politicians are obsessed with carbon.
00:23:31.280 Carbon tax, carbon neutral, carbon levy, carbon rebate, carbon, carbon, carbon.
00:23:36.520 You talk to anyone 15 years ago, they'd say, what are you crazy?
00:23:39.980 Is this a chemistry test?
00:23:41.760 If you press them, they say, well, carbon is with carbon dioxide.
00:23:45.280 Every sugar is carbon. Hydrocarbons, natural gas were made of carbon.
00:23:50.160 And it wasn't until I heard Geert Wilders talk about nitrogen, blah, blah, blah, nitrogen,
00:23:56.720 just dropped it casually that I thought, he sounds crazy talking about nitrogen that way,
00:24:03.300 but I know it's not him. I know it's the rule he's against.
00:24:06.540 We sound crazy that way talking about carbon.
00:24:10.720 It is insane to declare war against an element on the periodic table,
00:24:17.500 especially one that's so ubiquitous.
00:24:19.040 Not only is carbon the stuff of life, the stuff of everything, but nitrogen even more so.
00:24:25.680 The majority of air is nitrogen.
00:24:28.660 Imagine declaring war on nitrogen.
00:24:31.020 These people are crazy.
00:24:32.600 And when I mean these people, I don't mean Geert Wilders.
00:24:34.880 He was talking about the craziness of using nitrogen,
00:24:39.740 making it scary and using that as a battering ram.
00:24:42.980 And the reason I mention that is that the Netherlands is one of the largest food exporters in the world.
00:24:51.140 It's enormous in agriculture.
00:24:53.480 You wouldn't think it from a fairly small country, but it is.
00:24:57.360 And the same way going to war against carbon in Canada, one of the coldest countries in the world,
00:25:02.920 one of the largest countries in the world, going to war against carbon is nuts in a large, cold country.
00:25:08.540 You're going to war against nitrogen, which is a factor in agricultural fertilizer, is nuts.
00:25:15.720 And the only way it can be justified is when you realize that they have the same war on food as they have the war on fuel.
00:25:25.460 And a happy society depends on plentiful, cheap energy and food.
00:25:32.220 And it's the same mind virus that goes after carbon, that goes after nitrogen.
00:25:36.540 And with that lengthy introduction, let me introduce you to a man who follows carbon more than most.
00:25:43.400 He's the CEO of ClimateDepot.com.
00:25:46.060 You know who I'm talking about, my friend Mark Moran.
00:25:47.640 Mark, great to see you again.
00:25:49.320 Hey, thank you, Ezra. Happy to be here.
00:25:51.220 Don't mind me rambling on a little bit about nitrogen.
00:25:53.700 It was just, we're going to talk about nitrogen a bit today,
00:25:56.420 because that's one of the issues in this uprising in Europe, the farmer rebellion.
00:26:03.040 And hearing her builders mention nitrogen so casually,
00:26:07.060 it would be like if someone suddenly out of the blue said,
00:26:09.360 we've got to do something about all this hydrogen.
00:26:12.000 You'd say, what, are you crazy?
00:26:14.600 Yes, it is a madness.
00:26:16.620 Mark, tell us what's going on in Europe.
00:26:19.220 We see images of farmers protesting in the most creative ways,
00:26:23.760 you know, dumping manure on politicians' buildings.
00:26:27.960 Give us an update.
00:26:28.720 What's going on with the farmers' protests in Belgium especially?
00:26:32.580 It gives me some vibes of the Canadian trucker protest.
00:26:36.820 It does.
00:26:37.520 That's the first thing I was going to say, Ezra,
00:26:39.060 is Europeans probably wake up every day and thank God that Justin Trudeau isn't their leader,
00:26:44.980 because right now they would be declared domestic terrorists
00:26:48.100 under a first ever invoked emergencies act in Europe,
00:26:51.480 and they would be facing not having access to their own money,
00:26:55.660 having their insurance canceled.
00:26:56.900 So the good news is Justin Trudeau's not there to crack down on them.
00:27:01.020 That's the first point I wanted to make.
00:27:03.080 But it's absolutely amazing what is happening.
00:27:07.140 What's happening in Europe right now with this farmer rebellion
00:27:10.980 is what I wish had happened back in March and April of 2020
00:27:15.660 with the general public against the public health tyranny
00:27:18.760 that was COVID and lockdowns and stay-at-home and social distancing
00:27:22.360 and cancellation of wedding funerals.
00:27:25.480 The farmers aren't taking it anymore.
00:27:27.840 And what they're not taking is the net zero agenda
00:27:30.860 that was born out of the 1992 Rio Earth Summit
00:27:34.480 and then, of course, moved forward all the way to the UN Paris Agreement.
00:27:37.740 And the idea here is, and in many of these countries,
00:27:41.720 it's not even the politicians go and agree to these UN climate summits,
00:27:45.820 but then they become law at home,
00:27:47.700 and the courts order the farmers to start reducing emissions.
00:27:51.540 And what happens is these are climate compliance costs,
00:27:54.580 meaning small, family-run, generational farms
00:27:58.840 can't afford the cost to absorb all of these costs
00:28:02.040 and new ways and new technology
00:28:04.200 that's supposed to capture the nitrogen.
00:28:05.720 And what ends up happening is they're facing extinction.
00:28:09.100 The big boys come in, the billionaire, the equity asset,
00:28:12.080 the big agribusiness, corporate,
00:28:14.040 which is exactly what the forces of the United Nations
00:28:17.000 World Economic Forum want, because they can control them.
00:28:20.080 And this is what happened in the Netherlands.
00:28:21.560 They were facing 10,000 small, medium, family-run farms
00:28:24.840 for generations being shut down.
00:28:26.720 The farmers in the Netherlands fought back,
00:28:28.520 and I think the farmers, the rest of Europe, watched what happened.
00:28:31.400 The farmers in the Netherlands formed their own political party, the BBB.
00:28:34.440 They're now a governing coalition, and they're stopping the net-zero madness.
00:28:39.280 So in Belgium, in France, in Poland, in Spain, in Sweden,
00:28:43.500 at the headquarters of the EU in Brussels,
00:28:45.760 they are letting it be known that they are not going to allow
00:28:50.160 the net-zero agenda to shut them down.
00:28:51.980 And by the way, now, the second part of your question is nitrogen.
00:28:55.220 It's insane.
00:28:56.260 And they're trying to move nitrogen down the same pedestal as they put CO2
00:29:00.380 as the worst thing warming agent.
00:29:02.480 It's like 78% of air.
00:29:03.780 I forget my high school chemistry.
00:29:05.820 It's like more than 70% of air is nitrogen.
00:29:08.420 Am I right on that?
00:29:09.760 Like, it's crazy.
00:29:10.280 I don't know how you...
00:29:11.280 Yeah.
00:29:11.680 Like, it's the most common gas,
00:29:14.420 and it's one of the lowest number elements.
00:29:18.740 It's one of the most common elements.
00:29:20.080 It's like carbon and nitrogen, carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen, and hydrogen.
00:29:24.400 That's half of the stuff.
00:29:26.820 Like, that's...
00:29:27.080 And you might as well go after H2O and go after water, go after oxygen.
00:29:30.720 Yeah.
00:29:31.460 Okay.
00:29:31.840 So what happened with nitrogen is in order...
00:29:35.180 They've demonized two things that deal with food production.
00:29:38.740 Nitrogen, which is used for fertilizer.
00:29:41.960 Now, Norman Borlaug won the Nobel Peace Prize
00:29:44.120 for his invention of the golden rice,
00:29:47.020 and part of this whole green revolution in agriculture
00:29:49.900 was based on high-yield fertilizers,
00:29:53.780 of which nitrogen is one.
00:29:55.580 The problem is...
00:29:57.000 Well, I shouldn't say the problem is,
00:29:58.140 but the catch is for the climate activists is
00:30:00.340 it produces nitrous oxide,
00:30:02.700 which is a greenhouse gas.
00:30:05.080 And this is what they're focusing on
00:30:07.500 as a way to go after our food supply.
00:30:09.820 And they have a two-pronged attack.
00:30:11.440 Don't forget about methane.
00:30:13.060 They're going after the fertilizer,
00:30:14.420 which produces the high-yield agriculture
00:30:16.300 and has fed the world for the last 60, 50, 60 years.
00:30:19.100 And they're going after methane,
00:30:22.220 which is animal agriculture and meat-eating.
00:30:24.880 That's the key thing.
00:30:26.400 And so John Kerry just announced last summer in 2023
00:30:29.720 that the U.S. agriculture
00:30:31.300 is now going to have to fall under the net zero.
00:30:34.140 In other words, a direct attack on nitrogen and methane.
00:30:37.560 And it's so insane with nitrogen
00:30:39.700 that the Scientific American last year in 2023, Ezra,
00:30:43.520 had an article about how human pee is a pollution problem.
00:30:48.600 And you might say, well, what are they talking about?
00:30:50.360 Humans are eating too much meat,
00:30:52.160 which is then coming out in our urine as nitrous oxide,
00:30:54.960 which is then causing global warming.
00:30:56.760 Oh, my God.
00:30:56.960 That's how insane this whole movement has become.
00:30:59.900 So they want to roll methane, nitrogen,
00:31:02.620 and carbon dioxide into one bundle
00:31:05.280 so that they can come after us and literally shut down.
00:31:09.020 It's not that they want to shut down
00:31:10.300 all of modern civilization.
00:31:11.580 They want to gain the levers of control
00:31:14.340 and get rid of all the small, independent,
00:31:17.440 just like in COVID,
00:31:18.520 how they crush the small businesses, the mom and pops.
00:31:20.940 They want that corporate control
00:31:22.440 because then you have corporate government collusion
00:31:24.120 and you can set global policy instantly.
00:31:26.660 You're so right.
00:31:27.900 And I'm just thinking,
00:31:28.620 I do remember from my high school chemistry,
00:31:30.720 methane is CH4.
00:31:32.460 It's such a building block molecule.
00:31:35.100 It's so common.
00:31:36.580 Methane is naturally occurring.
00:31:38.800 And imagine declaring war on that.
00:31:40.780 It would be like declaring,
00:31:42.340 almost like declaring war on water, as you said.
00:31:45.040 It's madness.
00:31:45.680 But it's actually a study,
00:31:48.600 and it was, I believe in England,
00:31:50.600 the journal PLOS in December, 2023, two months ago,
00:31:54.320 human breath contributes to global warming.
00:31:57.860 This is a peer-reviewed study.
00:31:59.640 Africans warm the air with their breath more than Asians,
00:32:02.900 and women warm the air with their breath more than men.
00:32:05.600 So it's a war against humans as well,
00:32:07.980 as well as in death's collectivity.
00:32:09.900 You know, it's absolutely crazy,
00:32:11.940 and I'm glad that the farmers of Europe are standing up.
00:32:16.540 Listen, farmers have been rebelling
00:32:17.980 in one way or another in Europe for a long time,
00:32:20.120 and there's sometimes a hodgepodge of ideas afoot.
00:32:23.520 I understood why the truckers revolted in Canada two years ago.
00:32:27.540 It was crystal clear what the crisis was,
00:32:29.740 and because we were on the scene, we could understand it.
00:32:32.200 There's a bit of a language barrier sometimes
00:32:33.980 with the European farmers,
00:32:35.180 and I know one of the issues is, for example,
00:32:37.660 dumping of cheap Ukrainian grain in Europe to help Ukraine.
00:32:42.400 And so there are some different issues afoot there.
00:32:46.140 But I tell you, the last five years,
00:32:49.420 watching the World Economic Forum,
00:32:51.620 watching the war on carbon and watching the war on nitrogen,
00:32:55.180 the war on farmers, the war on food, the war on fuel,
00:32:58.700 even though there are some unanswered questions for me
00:33:01.640 about who these farmers are and what they're fighting for,
00:33:04.220 my instincts are to side with them,
00:33:06.980 because I know the guys on the other side are the bad guys, Mark.
00:33:11.280 They absolutely are.
00:33:12.460 This is what happened in Sri Lanka, remember.
00:33:14.840 They were going to stop all modern farming
00:33:17.460 because of it was contributing to global warming.
00:33:19.800 They had the highest ESG score in the world,
00:33:22.860 and they went full organic virtually overnight
00:33:26.380 by agricultural standards within a couple years,
00:33:28.500 and the entire country's food supply collapsed.
00:33:32.080 Like a man-made potato famine.
00:33:34.480 Yes, exactly.
00:33:35.280 But they chose to do it.
00:33:36.240 They chose, and this was praised.
00:33:37.880 The World Economic Forum had feature articles about how this...
00:33:40.520 Sri Lanka's a poor country.
00:33:42.140 They can't mess around like that.
00:33:43.500 That sounds like a...
00:33:44.520 You know what?
00:33:45.080 Sometimes you see people who have sort of hobby gardens
00:33:49.280 and craft gardens, and listen, gardening is one of the best activities
00:33:52.760 out there, absolutely.
00:33:54.440 But to say, no, I'm going to replace agriculture
00:33:58.380 with my own little hand-curated urban chicken or something,
00:34:04.020 that's a rich Westerner's daydream, to impose that on Sri Lanka,
00:34:12.280 a crowded, poor, low-income country that doesn't have a lot of margin for error,
00:34:16.580 and say, guess what?
00:34:17.680 You're going full San Francisco organic.
00:34:19.840 You're going full left-wing liberal, you know, quirky Instagram farmer.
00:34:27.560 How did it resolve in Sri Lanka, by the way?
00:34:29.900 How did it end?
00:34:30.500 And I heard of the crisis.
00:34:32.160 Yes.
00:34:32.580 Well, it resolved by the peasants overrunning the presidential palace,
00:34:36.420 swimming in the pool.
00:34:37.360 The president was exiled.
00:34:39.460 And this is no joke.
00:34:40.680 The World Economic Forum scrubbed the article from their webpage
00:34:44.020 about how Sri Lanka was going to lead the world
00:34:47.540 with the net-zero agricultural policy
00:34:49.620 and how wonderful it was going to be.
00:34:50.940 They are now rejecting all of that,
00:34:54.060 and they're working back toward a stable food supply there.
00:34:57.920 The problem is no one learned the lesson.
00:35:00.800 We have Justin Trudeau imposing this on Canadian farmers.
00:35:03.540 It's spreading to Australia.
00:35:04.660 I talked to a biologist over there.
00:35:06.360 Biologist Jennifer Moriosi said it's decimating Australian agriculture.
00:35:10.800 And in the United States, you have Bill Gates,
00:35:12.540 the number one farmland owner.
00:35:14.100 Jeff Bezos, another billionaire very close behind.
00:35:16.520 You have China, Political Magazine worried about China
00:35:20.080 having an agricultural land monopoly in the United States.
00:35:23.480 They actually bought up a pork production company,
00:35:28.140 and they dominate the market in that, Chinese-owned.
00:35:31.120 So what we have here is the food supply is critical.
00:35:35.580 Just remember, the big picture here is it's the intentional collapse
00:35:38.360 and rationing of energy,
00:35:40.600 intentional collapse and rationing of plentiful food supply,
00:35:44.040 and the collapse of our freedom of movement.
00:35:48.300 They're coming after the airline travel,
00:35:50.100 France starting the flight bans at two and a half hour.
00:35:52.340 That's spreading.
00:35:53.200 The gas-powered car bans,
00:35:54.640 the BBC saying it's not a question of if but when
00:35:58.220 flying will be severely restricted due to the climate.
00:36:01.020 All of these things are happening,
00:36:02.300 as well as suspending our free speech.
00:36:04.760 But the food is the lightning point.
00:36:06.840 And the message here,
00:36:08.300 the takeaway is we need to support these farmers.
00:36:11.240 This is the greatest pushback I've seen probably in my lifetime
00:36:14.880 of the last 10 years
00:36:16.520 against this whole globalist Great Reset agenda.
00:36:20.000 These farmers aren't kidding around,
00:36:22.200 and they're not taking it anymore.
00:36:23.600 The EU's already blinking and talking about backing down
00:36:26.040 on some of the net-zero emission standards for farms,
00:36:28.820 but it's got to go way beyond that.
00:36:30.500 Wow.
00:36:30.880 You know, we have covered things in Europe before.
00:36:33.500 As you know,
00:36:33.980 we go to the World Economic Forum every January.
00:36:36.300 I think we've been three times now.
00:36:37.700 I myself have been twice.
00:36:38.600 We have sent reporters, I think, on three occasions
00:36:41.820 to cover the Dutch Farmer Rebellion.
00:36:44.760 Is this rebellion against the European Union in Brussels,
00:36:48.620 is it still going on right now?
00:36:50.480 Because if so, maybe we'll send some reporters over.
00:36:52.800 Because we do have a lot of frequent flyer points.
00:36:54.940 Our guys travel cheap and travel light.
00:36:56.780 Yeah.
00:36:56.980 Is it still going on right now?
00:36:59.060 Yeah, well, today's Thursday.
00:37:00.500 As of, like, Monday and Tuesday, it was.
00:37:02.940 I have not seen the last couple days.
00:37:04.440 But, yeah, they're barricading it.
00:37:06.340 All the tractors are out.
00:37:07.680 They have the crowds of people,
00:37:10.680 the peasants, if you will,
00:37:11.940 as the global elite likes to call us.
00:37:13.820 The masses are out there
00:37:15.300 unanimously supporting what the farmers are doing.
00:37:18.460 That's why they have the power.
00:37:20.240 It's not like the farmers are just out there alone.
00:37:22.800 And I think the EU is terrified of them.
00:37:25.160 So what we need to do is keep this going,
00:37:27.700 keep the pressure.
00:37:28.340 Because if we can have one of the,
00:37:29.760 one of this, you know,
00:37:30.840 legs of the Great Reset collapse,
00:37:32.600 the agricultural aspect,
00:37:34.280 it won't be long before we can fight back
00:37:36.060 on the transportation and the energy aspect.
00:37:38.460 Yeah, wow.
00:37:39.340 Well, I've never been to Belgium before.
00:37:41.720 I don't, I mean, I know in the Netherlands,
00:37:43.520 they almost all speak English.
00:37:44.920 Same in Germany.
00:37:46.320 My French is not very strong.
00:37:48.080 But I am, you've got me very curious.
00:37:50.220 And I love the imagery of the farmers,
00:37:52.560 especially with their manure spreaders doing that.
00:37:55.160 But that's just,
00:37:55.740 I get a real chuckle out of that every time I see that.
00:37:58.680 You know what?
00:37:59.100 I'm going to look into this a little bit more
00:38:00.300 if it's still ongoing and,
00:38:02.540 and if we can get there economically,
00:38:04.220 like using points or something,
00:38:05.940 I think maybe we should go there again.
00:38:07.460 Because I think people really enjoyed our coverage
00:38:09.140 of the Dutch farmer rebellion.
00:38:11.900 And especially if it's motivated,
00:38:14.000 I mean, I think I'd love to talk to them about
00:38:15.740 if the truckers of Canada were some sort of inspiration.
00:38:18.360 And you're planting seeds of ideas in my mind, Mark.
00:38:20.760 And I appreciate that.
00:38:21.960 Thanks for joining us as always.
00:38:23.860 And keep up the fight.
00:38:24.820 ClimateDepot.com,
00:38:26.240 really the leading clearinghouse for information
00:38:28.560 about the war on carbon
00:38:30.320 and frankly, the war on nitrogen too.
00:38:32.040 Great to see you.
00:38:33.600 Thank you, Ezra.
00:38:34.380 I appreciate it.
00:38:35.060 All right.
00:38:35.920 Stay with us.
00:38:36.740 More ahead.
00:38:48.900 Listen, Rebel News is a big organization.
00:38:50.820 We've got a lot of journalists from coast to coast,
00:38:52.420 Drea out west, Sheila in Edmonton.
00:38:54.920 We've got reporters in Calgary and Montreal.
00:38:58.280 Alexa's out there and Robert Krejcik's in Ottawa.
00:39:01.240 And I'm out here.
00:39:02.560 We've got a lot of stuff going on.
00:39:04.780 So the fact that I am focused like a laser on Bill C-63
00:39:08.180 doesn't mean we stop talking about other issues.
00:39:10.960 I think I'm going to be focused on C-63
00:39:13.060 because I guess it's my round two
00:39:15.260 against the Canadian Human Rights Commission.
00:39:17.440 You might recall that more than, I guess, about 15 years ago,
00:39:20.980 I was put through the Alberta Human Rights Commission
00:39:23.400 on that Danish cartoon business.
00:39:25.260 And then there was a complaint filed against me
00:39:27.100 at the Canadian Human Rights Commission.
00:39:29.160 They dropped it immediately.
00:39:30.640 They didn't want to battle with me.
00:39:32.060 But now they're stronger, rougher, tougher.
00:39:34.000 Trudeau's in charge.
00:39:35.440 I guess this is round two.
00:39:37.160 You know, almost 20 years later,
00:39:39.080 this is round two with the Human Rights Commissions.
00:39:41.340 I feel like it's my duty to fight back.
00:39:43.480 I feel like I have an experience
00:39:45.720 with these Human Rights Commissions
00:39:46.880 that most people don't, thank God.
00:39:48.920 I feel that my legal background,
00:39:51.120 I no longer practice as a lawyer,
00:39:52.740 but we deal with legal things every day here, obviously.
00:39:55.580 We've got smart lawyers who fight for freedom
00:39:57.480 and sometimes win.
00:39:59.340 I think this is when we have to win.
00:40:01.480 And I think it's so outrageous,
00:40:02.580 I think it's when we actually can win.
00:40:05.700 You can, we're putting together a compilation page
00:40:07.880 at stopthecensorship.ca.
00:40:10.220 You can figure out and follow all our stuff there.
00:40:13.140 I'm going to keep working on this
00:40:14.120 and keep thinking about this.
00:40:15.140 Obviously, there's other news, too,
00:40:16.320 and we do cover it.
00:40:17.400 But this is probably going to be
00:40:18.440 the top of my mind for a long time to come.
00:40:21.260 That's the show for today.
00:40:22.880 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us
00:40:24.560 here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:40:25.820 to you at home, good night.
00:40:27.540 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:40:28.620 To be continued.