EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trudeau’s cabinet ministers calmly discuss deploying military tanks in response to the trucker convoy
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A text message between Justice Minister David Lamedi and Public Safety Minister Marco Mendocino discusses deploying military forces against peaceful trucker protesters in response to a protest at the border between Alberta and Montana on Nov. 22, 2011.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, I want to focus on one text message between two Trudeau cabinet ministers, the justice minister and the public safety minister, where they talk about deploying the Canadian military, including tanks, against peaceful trucker protesters. It is astonishing.
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Tonight, Trudeau's cabinet ministers calmly discussed deploying military tanks in response to the trucker
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Convoys. November 23rd. This is the Ezra Levant Show.
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We have the trucker lawyer, Chad Williamson. We've got so many interesting speakers. Conrad Black from
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plug. I just have to say it was an amazing feeling being among so many friends, and I hope you can
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make it. Okay, let's get back to the news today. I think the news for the rest of the week is going
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to be this Trucker Commission of Inquiry. How could it not be? It's been police until now saying the same
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thing a hundred times. There was no policing requirement to bring in martial law. Regular
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policing powers was more than enough, and the obvious proof of that is the bridge between Windsor and
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Detroit. The blockade there was removed peacefully in two days without martial law. The blockade at
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the Coutts border between Alberta and Montana was ended peacefully without the Emergencies Act
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martial law. Not a single police force in the country said they needed it or said they asked for it.
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It's been an interesting testimony, but it's been repetitive. Now that's changing because we're not
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talking about cops who were hopefully loyal to their oath. We're talking about politicians who are
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scared of being exposed as power-hungry tyrants, which they have been. Marco Mendocino, the public
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safety minister, David Lamedi, the justice minister. But in addition to their testimony, what this
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commission of inquiry is doing is producing documents, documents that the lawyers, both for the commission and
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interveners like the JCCF and the Democracy Fund, these lawyers get privileged access to these documents in advance
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from which they can form their questions for these witnesses. And the reason that's important,
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if you were just talking to the Minister of Public Safety about the Emergencies Act, you could ask general
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questions, but by seeing their internal records first, you could zero in on particular things. It makes it much more
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useful and it's fascinating to see. These documents are posted to the public commission's website.
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And this document I'm going to focus on today is a text message exchange between David Lamedi,
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the justice minister, and Marco Mendocino, the public safety minister. And the reason it's so fascinating
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is what they said. But an extra layer of fascinating is that we would never normally see this. As you know,
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Rebel News files a lot of access to information requests with the government. But there's a lot of
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exemptions in access to information requests. One of them is that the political staff and the
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political communications of the prime minister's office and the cabinet ministers and MPs, that is
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not disclosable under an access to information request. You cannot know what an MP is texting with
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his staff. You just cannot get it. But this is not an access to information request. This is a subpoena
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by a judge in a judicial inquiry. And you've got to hand it over. This is very rare that you see this
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kind of internal chit-chat like that. And of course, it's where the real stuff is. An official memo is
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written thinking, well, this may well be seen by either many people in private or in public. An official
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memo is probably written with the help of professional staff. But a text message between a couple of cabinet
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ministers, they're going to speak very plainly. They'll say things that they never in a million
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years would imagine to be showed in public. Well, let me show you this text message exchanged between
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Lamedi and Mendocino. You need to get the police to move. Oh, I didn't know that politicians directed
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the police. At least they're not supposed to in a democracy. And the Canadian Armed Forces, if necessary.
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Oh, really? So we deploy our military against peaceful domestic citizens. Our military that's
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trained to kill enemy soldiers designed to fight foreign governments, we're going to deploy that
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against bouncy castles and hot tubs, are we? Against men, women, and children, are we? Completely
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peaceful. Order the cops to intervene. Order the army to intervene. Too many people are being seriously,
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adversely impacted by what is an occupation. I'm getting out as soon as I can. What a courageous
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man, our justice minister. He's so courageous. He's panicking and he's going to flee the city,
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so bravely run away. People are looking to us, you, for leadership and not stupid people. People like
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Carney, CAF, my team. Oh, they're the smartest. Carney. I take it that's Mark Carney.
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Mark Carney, formerly the head of the Bank of England. Mark Carney now works for the United
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Nations. Mark Carney has no standing. He's not a Canadian official at all. He's not an elected
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official. He's not a cabinet minister. He's not a judge. He's just some politician. He's some
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globalist who works for, frankly, the UN. Who cares what he says? What does the Canadian
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constitution say about freedom of speech? Who cares that some globalist who doesn't have any
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roots in Canada, who's flying around the world working for the UN, who cares what he says? And
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Cath? Is that Catherine McKenna? Is that what Lemeney thinks is a smart person?
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And in response, Mandacino says, how many tanks are you asking for? I just want to ask Anita,
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that's Anita Anand, the defense minister, how many we've got on hand? I reckon one will do.
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Yeah, because, of course, you probably wouldn't shoot a tank in Ottawa. It would blow things up. You
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would, if you really, if you really seriously deployed a tank, you would probably do it
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in the manner of Tiananmen Square, where they use the tanks to simply
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drive on their peaceful democracy protesters. Remember this terrifying image from Tiananmen
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Square, where they gather to protest for democracy outside their parliament buildings. It's not really
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a parliament. They don't have democratically elected legislators in China, but it's the
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communist headquarters. That's where the democracy activists were, and they deployed the tanks to
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crush them, to drive over them. That's what Marco Mendocino and David Lemeney were talking about.
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You know, when people tell you who they are, it's best to listen to them.
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When he was running for office before he was even an MP, Justin Trudeau went to a fundraising event,
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and they asked him, what country do you most admire? Without missing a beat, he said China. And he
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explained it wasn't for their language or their culture or their history or their food or any of
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that. It was for their basic dictatorship. Here's that clip. There's a level of admiration I actually
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have for China. Because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy
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around on a dime and say, we need to go green as fast as we need to start, you know, investing in
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solar. I mean, there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about of having a dictatorship
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that he could do everything he wanted. And just in case you didn't think he meant it when
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the tyrant Fidel Castro died. Well, there was a loving eulogy made for him, the mass murderer by
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Justin Trudeau. Remember that? The fact is, Fidel Castro had a deep and lasting impact on the Cuban
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people. He certainly was a polarizing figure, and there certainly were significant concerns around
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human rights. That's something that I'm open about and that I've highlighted. But on the passing of his
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death, I expressed a statement that highlighted the deep connection between the people of Canada
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and the people of Cuba. And at the same time, Canadians know that I always talk about human
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rights, including here yesterday, including with Raul Castro two weeks ago, including wherever I go
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around the world. I believe in positive, constructive engagement in the world, and that means being open
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and direct in our assessments, in our challenges, in our points of disagreement, while at the same
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time being consistent with the kind of respect that Canadians expect from their prime minister.
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Yeah. So it's no surprise that that's the same idea, the same ideology that infects the whole cabinet.
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You know, I remember, I'm old enough to remember, that there was a liberal attack ad
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deployed against the conservatives. It was laughable at the time. Remember this one saying,
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if you vote for conservatives, there will be soldiers in our streets in Canada. Remember this one?
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Stephen Harper actually announced he wants to increase military presence in our cities.
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Canadian cities, Canadian cities, soldiers with guns, in our cities, in Canada.
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Yeah, no, it wasn't conservatives who did that. It was the liberals who were talking about rolling out
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tanks. And of course, Chrystia Freeland, who was musing about having soldiers dressing up as police,
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falsely, and going out as police. Of course, the thing about soldiers, like I say, they're trained to
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kill foreign enemies. They're not trained to be law enforcement officers using the least force
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possible, understanding civil liberties, how to arrest someone, how not to, using their discretion.
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To make a soldier, a policeman, makes no sense at all, other than, I suppose, both,
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you would hope would be fit, you know, strong individuals who know how to use a weapon. But
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after that, the similar similarities are completely missing. Imagine sending the military in to crush
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a peaceful protest. This is what they're talking about. The weird thing is that it's only against
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peaceful protesters that they hate. There are peaceful protesters in Canada all the time,
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and sometimes they're not so peaceful. Black lives matter. A couple years ago, the railway blockades,
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those were violating property, and had the trains been derailed by the blockades, it would have
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caused death. There was no call for soldiers in the streets or tanks back then, because those were
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the protesters on Trudeau's side. The craziest thing, and I think it's a way to understand liberals,
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is they project what they are onto you. In this case, they were saying that the truckers were extreme,
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but they were the ones talking about fleeing the city and how many tanks do we have.
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They were saying the truckers were violent. They were not. They were the ones preaching violence.
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I mentioned this the other day. There were thousands of people in Ottawa,
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thousands of protesters, thousands of police. Only one person was shot during the Ottawa convoy,
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and it was our reporter Alexa Lavoie. Remember this terrible clip? Hey, can I ask you a question?
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What are the odds that of all the thousands of people in Ottawa who were shot,
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that it just happened to be a rebel news reporter? What are the odds of that?
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But like I say, the liberals project things onto you. They say you're violent when they shoot you.
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They say that you take foreign funding from, oh, say, Vladimir Putin. Remember when the
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CBC state broadcaster said Putin was behind the truckers? Remember this?
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I do ask that because given Canada's support of Ukraine in this current crisis with Russia,
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I don't know if it's far-fetched to ask, but there is concern that Russian actors could be continuing
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to fuel things as this protest grows, but perhaps even instigating it from the outset.
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Yeah, that's called projection. As we recently learned, it was the Liberal Party who was being
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financed by the government of China, something that Trudeau doesn't want to talk about right now.
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Pierre Trudeau brought in martial law too. At least in his case, it was in response to an actual
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terrorist group, the FLQ, a separatist movement that was detonating bombs, kidnapping people, even
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committed murder. But Pierre Trudeau, when he invoked martial law, he didn't stop there.
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His RCMB burnt down barns belonging to his political enemies. Hundreds of people were arrested,
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not for terrorism, but for opposing Trudeau. I think Justin Trudeau learned that from his father.
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They project these liberals. To them, they talk about the charter, but it means nothing when it
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comes to limiting their own misconduct. Everything the liberals accuse you of doing
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is really a psychological projection of themselves. Justin Trudeau says you're a racist.
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He's the one who dressed up in blackface so many times he lost count. He's the one who says he's the
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feminist and you're the sexist. But he was the one who basically confessed to sexually assaulting
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Rose Knight. But hey, she just experienced it differently. You know what's so fascinating about
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this tank revelation? If it were a conservative who said this, it would be a resignation. It would be
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nonstop charges of fascism and political violence and extremism. This will be laughed off. Oh, they were
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just bantering. They didn't mean it in a private exchange that they never thought would be seen
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public. The regime media back in February was carrying Trudeau's water, saying Putin was behind it. And
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they're doing that again now. This is an incredible text message. But you can only imagine what is behind
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the redactions and the blackouts and the texts that they won't release. Oh, well. We're almost done
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the Trucker Commission inquiry. And by the way, if you're not going to truckercommission.com, you're
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missing out. What will the judge do? The judge doesn't have the power to jail anyone here. It's really a
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fact-finding inquiry. I think that the judge just has to find that this Emergencies Act invocation of martial
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law was not legally justified. Remember the test. That there is a danger to Canadian citizens or
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sovereignty so grave that it is a true public emergency that cannot be solved with other laws. I don't think
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there's any way that the facts so far can justify it. But so what? So he says that Trudeau had no basis.
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So he says this was a gross political power grab. So what? Trudeau's already, as much as said,
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he doesn't care what the judge says. Remember this?
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The inquiry that starts today, 65 witnesses over 30 days. You know, when it's all wrapped up and
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the commissioner, if he finds that there was no justification for the federal government to
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invoke the Emergencies Act, should there be consequences for the federal government,
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including your resignation? But we knew from the very beginning
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that invoking the Emergencies Act is a big step. It had never been done before. But given these
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unprecedented illegal protests, we needed to take action. We took it in a way that was measured,
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that was responsible, that was time limited. And we knew full well that there needed to be a public
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inquiry. Canadians need that level of transparency and accountability. And that's why we launched this
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inquiry. That's why I'm so happy to be that I offered from the beginning to be part of,
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part of appearing at this commission. And we're going to make sure that Canadians see
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the situation we were facing and how the tools we used were appropriate.
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It's found that there was no justification for it. Again, what should the consequences be for that?
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I think the important thing is for Canadians to understand the situation we were in and the choices
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we make. We didn't enter into using the Emergencies Act lightly. We used it with a sense of it was the
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necessary tool at the time. We used it in a way that was measured and proportionate. And we're really
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pleased that the commission is going to be able to hear from all these witnesses. And that was why
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I offered to appear. Of course he's not going to resign. Justin Trudeau is being convicted of
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breaking more laws than any other prime minister in Canadian history. I'm referring to the conflict
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of interest laws, taking $100,000 bribes from lobbyists, for example, at a free vacation on
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Billionaire Island in the Bahamas. He laughs about that. When he's caught sexually assaulting Rose
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Knight, he says it's an opportunity for us all to reflect on how to be better feminists.
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Justin Trudeau violated our basic civil liberties. He made Canadian democracy weaker. He destroyed it,
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he destroyed it, not the truckers. They saved it. And when he is convicted or denounced or found to have
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done so by this judge, which I think will happen, he'll laugh about it. And the media party that he
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finances, well, they'll laugh right along with him. Stay with us for more.
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Well, social media censorship is always in the news. And of course, Elon Musk's
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privatization, his purchase of Twitter has thrust those issues to the fore once more.
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As you know, he has reinstated some conservative, almost all of them have been conservative. I don't
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know any liberals who were suspended. He's reinstated conservative accounts on Twitter,
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including Donald Trump, who has not yet used his, but a lot of other people, including James Lindsay,
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with whom we spoke yesterday, have been reinstated. And it shines a light on the murky world of
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contracting out censorship. What I mean by that is government not passing a law or a regulation or
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sending a cop to censor someone, but rather quietly behind the scenes in an email or a phone call,
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government, big government calling big tech and giving a list of undesirables that then the tech
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companies censor, all of it under the radar, none of it appealable, none of it transparent,
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as is normally the case with government interactions. Well, there is a case of foot right now in the
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United States dealing with the White House and in particular, the former press secretary,
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Jen Psaki, directing social media companies to suspend or throttle the government's blacklist of
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pundits. And this lawsuit is taking place in the state of Louisiana. And the lawyer for the
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plaintiffs is our friend Janine Younis. And she joins us now from Washington, where she's with
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the new civil abuse alliance. Janine, did I properly sum up the case? I don't think I really summed it up
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well. Welcome. First of all, welcome. Great to see you again. Give me a one minute background to fix any
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errors I made there. You're suing because the government in league with big tech silenced a bunch of
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people, especially COVID skeptics. Am I right? That's more or less it. I will correct a couple
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of things. First of all, I wouldn't say that Jen Psaki is the main defendant. She was the main
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person of interest in the hearing that took place on Friday. I believe we'll get to later. But
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we're suing a lot of people, including the president himself, DHS, CDC, a lot of agencies that
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were clearly involved in this censorship. And what we're arguing isn't just that the tech companies were
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working with the social media, sorry, the government was working with the social media companies,
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telling them who and what to censor, which it was. But we're arguing that they were really coercing
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the companies to do that, which makes it I think in both cases, it's a First Amendment violation.
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But I think that makes it a clearer First Amendment violation when the government is threatening
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tech companies with negative consequences if they don't censor according to its directives.
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Well, that's stunning. Now, I have always had the prejudice
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that tech companies typically are left to center. So there wouldn't be a lot of arm twisting necessary
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to silence people traditionally called conservative or reactionary. And of course, for some weird
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reason, and I know you personally found it odd that liberals and people who in the past have said,
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my body, my choice, were suddenly not just pro-vaccine, but pro-vaccine mandate. But for whatever reason,
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I think the left said we are going to get behind vaccine mandates. The reason I mention this is it's
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surprising to me that the government would have to force or pressure or coerce big tech to do what I
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think some of them would have naturally done. Can you tell us a little bit more about that? What is your
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theory? Or I don't know if you have evidence or if there's something you can point to. What is it that
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and how did the government threaten big tech? Because I would have thought big tech loved to do this.
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Well, you know, I think especially Twitter is sort of considered a free speech haven or has been for
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a long time. And I think that the company sort of profits from that. I mean, if you go to the places
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like Gab or Getter, which are sort of now right wing hubs, or the Mastodon is now the left wing,
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it's pretty boring because it's sort of an echo chamber of people talking to each other, I think,
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who all agree. Whereas when you go to Twitter, it's interesting because you're engaging with your
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opponents. And so I think that is actually a profitable business model. And so Twitter was
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not really censoring based on viewpoint for most of its existence. So the reason that we know that
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the federal government has been behind a lot of, especially the COVID-19 censorship of views that
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oppose the governments is that, first of all, they made public statements. So the
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president himself, through his press secretary, Psaki as well, and the surgeon general, Vivek Murthy,
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Alejandro Mayorkas, who's the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, they said that
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social media companies aren't doing enough to censor dangerous and for misinformation about COVID,
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like those who question the vaccines, the efficacy, safety, those who think maybe not everybody needs to
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get them, those who question the efficacy of masks, those who think the harms of lockdowns are
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greater than the benefits. So they have gone on record saying that companies aren't doing enough
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to censor them and that they will be held accountable with legal consequences if they
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don't do more. So that's obvious. I mean, that's a threat. And that's not allowed under the First
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Amendment. But we've also been permitted to get discovery in this case by the judge. He found that
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that was enough to allow us to get internal documents, internal communications between the tech companies and the
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government. And that has sort of substantiated our position, because there are emails there
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saying things like, for instance, you have Jen Easterly from DHS, texting another CESA,
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CESA as a sub agency in DHS, texting another CESA employee, although he went to work at Microsoft,
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not clear if he was at Microsoft at the time, about this problem of misinformation. And then he says,
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yeah, we've really got to overcome tech companies' hesitation to work with the government.
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And then you have the Surgeon General texting a very high up person at Facebook,
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that Facebook isn't doing enough to censor misinformation. And then the Facebook employee
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is saying, we're feeling really aggrieved. We don't want to be accused of killing people.
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And then a week later, okay, we removed the disinformation dozen pursuant to your request.
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We've escalated our censorship policies. So it's very clear that they're responding to these threats.
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Wow. Now, did you get these internal documents from the government,
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Both. The judge ordered the government to turn over documents that contain various search terms
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in between various individuals that we named based on the information we had. And then in a sort of rare
00:26:59.820
move, he ordered discovery on the third parties. And actually, that was quite interesting because the
00:27:04.380
government had clearly not been entirely forthcoming about the number of officials and agencies that were
00:27:10.060
involved in this. We learned it was a vaster censorship enterprise of the federal government than we had
00:27:16.140
previously thought because of the information that tech companies gave us.
00:27:19.820
Yeah. And that's the thing is you're relying on the honesty and the ethics and the technical skill of the
00:27:26.380
government to turn over relevant documents. They might, you know, honestly do a search incorrectly,
00:27:31.900
or they might just choose not to disclose the most embarrassing things. If you have a second,
00:27:37.500
if you have the second party in a conversation, it's more likely you'll get all the info. That's very interesting.
00:27:43.440
So, um, this hearing is in Louisiana. Is that right? How did Louisiana get jurisdiction here? Is that
00:27:51.280
important or was it just, could have been any state?
00:27:53.380
So, um, the, one of the plaintiffs that I'm representing lives in Louisiana. So the lawsuit
00:27:59.300
was brought by the Missouri's, uh, sorry, the attorneys general of Missouri and Louisiana,
00:28:03.460
and then, um, NCLA and I are representing private plaintiffs, one of whom lives in Louisiana. So that
00:28:08.980
allows for it to be filed there. Um, the, that area, the fifth circuit, you might have judges that
00:28:16.100
would tend to be more favorable than some other places in the country.
00:28:18.900
Well, you know what? I, it used to be that freedom of speech was a liberal value, left-wing
00:28:25.460
value. So your statement there that judges there might be more favorable. I don't even know if that
00:28:30.260
means they're liberal or conservative because traditionally I remember growing up and it was
00:28:34.660
the left that really, really was on guard for free speech. Um, now let me come back to Jen Sackie
00:28:41.220
because, uh, you've clarified that she is not the center of things, but she is perhaps, uh, um,
00:28:47.140
I, I recall that, that she was one of the people ringing the alarm, uh, about too much free speech
00:28:53.780
and social media. Um, she said she did not want to come and be deposed. She didn't want to be
00:29:00.580
subpoenaed. If I'm, I'm not sure the, the legal vocabulary that would apply to Louisiana. In this
00:29:06.180
case, the judge said, well, you've got to come and sure it's an inconvenience, but it's an inconvenience
00:29:09.940
for anyone. Come and answer questions. Is that right? So she tried to evade this, but a judge said,
00:29:15.060
no, you come and answer. It's close. Uh, it's a little bit complicated. So the federal rules of
00:29:20.980
civil procedure in the United States say that you cannot require a witness to go more than a hundred
00:29:25.620
miles to be deposed. So even though this case is in Louisiana, because she lives in Virginia,
00:29:30.180
um, she was going to be deposed in Virginia and you can move to squash the subpoena. That's
00:29:35.140
get rid of the subpoena or order saying that you have to be deposed in the jurisdiction where you're
00:29:39.940
going to be deposed, which the government did. It was sort of a clever move because they wanted to get a
00:29:43.780
second bite at the apple. Essentially they hoped to draw a favorable judge who would second guess
00:29:47.780
the Louisiana judge's opinion. So we had a hearing on that, uh, this past Friday and it didn't go for
00:29:53.220
the government the way they wanted. Um, the, uh, the judge did not like their, um, contentions that
00:29:59.300
she was sort of, her time was too precious. They, the judge, you know, noted that she claimed it was
00:30:03.300
an undue burden, but she couldn't point to anything specific. You know, I mean, it's, it's a burden to
00:30:07.780
anybody. Nobody wants to sit and be deposed for eight hours. And, um, uh, he noted, he also noted
00:30:14.500
the allegations were serious. He sort of, uh, implied that he thought there was enough evidence
00:30:18.420
in the record to substantiate them. But ultimately what he did was he sent it back to Louisiana. He
00:30:22.580
said that judge knows the case. Um, then you shouldn't get a second bite at the apple. And so
00:30:26.980
he sent it back and then the Louisiana judge, um, you know, did not, he, he did not quash the subpoena.
00:30:32.980
So she has to be deposed now. Got it. So, uh, the Virginia judge, which was going to be,
00:30:38.020
I guess you could call that forum shopping. Perhaps she thought she would have a more sympathetic judge
00:30:41.940
in Virginia, but he wasn't buying. And he said, no, no, you're not getting an escape route. And,
00:30:46.100
and so, so that, that sounds like it was a bit of good luck. And, and she, and her exit plan didn't
00:30:52.020
work. Her escape plan didn't work. Yeah, that exactly. Although, so now she's filing for a right of
00:30:56.740
mandamus, which is, that's the mechanism through which you appeal, sort of appeal a deposition order.
00:31:01.860
So she's fine. She is going to file that in the fifth circuit very soon. So we'll see what happens
00:31:07.300
there. So it's pretty clear. She doesn't want to answer questions. And I can imagine because she
00:31:12.180
really, I mean, she was more than just a spokesperson. She really, uh, was tantamount to a chief of staff.
00:31:18.900
I mean, she, I think she had her fingers in more pies and wasn't just a, a talker. I think she was a
00:31:24.740
decider. Uh, I, I think it's, it's fairly conventional to say that Jen Psaki was a super
00:31:30.420
staffer and she probably has a lot of things she knows and a lot of things she did in this file.
00:31:36.740
She wasn't just a fly on the wall. She was a doer. That's my theory. That's why I think she's fighting
00:31:41.060
so hard. Well, it's interesting because she said one of the reasons it was an undue burden was that
00:31:45.780
she wouldn't just have to sit for the seven hours of deposition, but that she would have to take days to
00:31:49.860
prepare. And the judge said, well, first you're saying she doesn't, you know, she doesn't know
00:31:53.620
anything. And now you're saying it takes two to three days to prepare. If she doesn't know anything,
00:31:59.940
Well, that's very interesting. Uh, Gina, this is a great case. I'm so glad you're doing it.
00:32:04.900
And I've been thinking about these things a lot because as Elon Musk goes into the company and sort of
00:32:09.940
flips off the censorship switches that were flipped on, um, I think we're learning a lot more about
00:32:17.620
how censorship worked in Twitter. What are the companies that were targeted? You mentioned
00:32:22.100
Facebook. Did they also target Twitter? Did they target YouTube and Google? Uh, did they talk to
00:32:29.220
TikTok? What do, is there a list of big tech companies, uh, that are part of your lawsuit?
00:32:36.100
Um, so, I mean, the tech companies aren't named as defendants, so they're, you know, I wouldn't say
00:32:41.220
part of the lawsuit, but the ones that we have evidence that they, um, were in communication with
00:32:46.420
extensively are Twitter, Facebook, uh, Google, YouTube, and LinkedIn. Um, I don't believe that
00:32:53.220
there are more at this time, but I, uh, my understanding too, is that we asked, we could
00:32:58.580
only choose five companies to get a discovery from or get the communications from, and we chose those.
00:33:04.580
So it may be that we only have those communications because we didn't ask for other companies. So I
00:33:09.060
don't know if there could be more involved. Well, those are, those are the big ones. I mean,
00:33:11.940
Google owns YouTube. Facebook owns Instagram. Uh, Twitter really is the political town square. I,
00:33:17.620
I think you've got the big ones there. I'm going to be fascinated. I'm going to have a very keen
00:33:20.980
interest in what YouTube says, because of course we were the largest independent YouTube channel
00:33:26.420
in Canada by, by a mile. Um, we never broke any of the rules. We never got strikes. We never engaged
00:33:31.860
in profanity or, or, or violence or, or anything like that. But when the pandemic set in,
00:33:38.340
because we were skeptical, we weren't, we weren't nutty about it. We didn't talk about
00:33:42.500
microchips planted in your brain or anything, but just general skepticism towards lockdownism,
00:33:48.980
uh, they pummeled us. They took, took away our monetization and it'll be very interesting.
00:33:53.700
Keep your eyes peeled. If the word rebel news comes up, I'm not even kidding because although
00:33:59.380
we're based in Canada, Janine, we have a lot of viewers in the States and, and we really were
00:34:03.940
skeptics of lockdownism from the beginning. If you come across our name in those, in those records
00:34:09.380
that you get, let me know. I'd like to see if Jen Psaki or others was hunting for us.
00:34:16.340
Well, listen, good luck. It's a delight to have you on the show. It sounds like you're having
00:34:19.940
some good luck. Although, uh, Jen Psaki is trying to, to run away again. Um, give us 30 seconds on the
00:34:27.460
NCLA, the new civil liberties Alliance. I love the name of your law firm because it really is true.
00:34:32.660
There's a new coalition of people who care about civil liberties. And unfortunately,
00:34:36.740
some of the old coalition doesn't seem to care so much anymore. Give me just one minute on other
00:34:41.140
things that you guys are doing in the fight for freedom. Sure. Um, so our core mission is fighting
00:34:46.500
the administrative state, which I think is responsible for, um, many of the civil liberties, American, uh,
00:34:51.940
violations that Americans experience. Now I have a suit right now in California on behalf of five
00:34:57.300
doctors who are challenging a new law that says that permits the board, the medical board to, uh,
00:35:03.060
subject to discipline doctors who disseminate to patients, misinformation about COVID. Um,
00:35:07.860
and that can be in the form of treatment or advice. So we're arguing that's a first amendment
00:35:11.300
violation, um, and has a profound chilling effect because doctors don't know, uh, what departs from
00:35:18.020
the scientific consensus, which that's how it's defined anything that departs from the scientific
00:35:21.700
consensus. Um, we are challenging the student loan forgiveness program on the grounds that the
00:35:27.060
president does not have the authority as the executive to, um, just forgive student loans on
00:35:32.500
mass. Um, we have another great case about, uh, in Massachusetts tracking, um, there, there was an
00:35:39.300
app that downloaded onto people's phones without their permission. And if you tested positive for
00:35:43.620
COVID or you contact came into contact with someone who did, it would send an alert to your phone.
00:35:49.060
So we're arguing that was an unlawful like search basically, because they were tracking you without
00:35:52.740
your consent. Uh, so yeah, we have lots of really interesting cases, lots of vaccine mandate cases
00:35:57.300
that are still percolating through, um, on appeal. And, uh, some, some of which actually haven't been
00:36:02.260
decided even at the lower court level yet. You know, it's funny. Our Supreme Court of Canada
00:36:06.740
has not yet heard a single case emanating from the lockdowns of the pandemic. Can you believe
00:36:11.460
they have not heard they're busy doing more important things. Um, I'd say, I wish we had the NCLA up
00:36:17.140
here in Canada. We have a few good organizations, the democracy fund, which, which we like to support,
00:36:21.540
and of course the justice center for constitutional freedoms, just crazy stuff up here. Janine,
00:36:25.700
you wouldn't even believe it. The college of physicians and surgeons in Ontario now has advice
00:36:30.340
to doctors that if they face someone who is hesitant about vaccines, that they should prescribe
00:36:34.820
sedation. They should give that person psychiatric drugs, uh, or, or basically,
00:36:40.660
basically give them a valium to overcome their thoughtful objection. There's terrifying things
00:36:46.580
going on here. Um, I'm so glad you're fighting for freedom down there and hopefully we'll have
00:36:51.300
a knock on effect up here because, because things aren't quite as free as they should be in Canada.
00:36:55.460
Oh, Canada has really, uh, surprised me with this.
00:36:58.820
Yeah, well, it's, uh, I wish I could say we're surprised, but, but we're not. Great to see you,
00:37:03.620
my friend Janine Younis, fighting hard for freedom at the new civil liberties alliance. Keep in touch,
00:37:08.500
look forward to your successes. Look forward to keeping in touch.
00:37:12.900
All right. There you have it. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.
00:37:27.060
Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. Pizza for Life says,
00:37:30.420
should that even be allowed in such short notice? Why aren't there deadlines for this sort of thing
00:37:34.660
to account for time needed to review documents? Trudeau is the fall of Canada. The black mark,
00:37:39.860
literally and figuratively. You're talking about the black marks, the blacked out documents that are
00:37:45.380
being dumped on the commission at the last minute. Well, what are you going to do? You're going to throw,
00:37:50.340
I mean, in a real court, this kind of misconduct by lawyers could result in some sort of consequences.
00:37:57.860
Illegal pleading being struck out. Theoretically, a lawyer being held in contempt. Someone losing a
00:38:06.820
lawsuit. Fines being ordered or costs being ordered. But none of that really applies here. This judge
00:38:13.780
can't throw someone in jail for contempt. I guess he could, but really he's time limited. He has a few
00:38:19.700
more days left and who's going to hold Trudeau to account? It's a joke and Trudeau knows it.
00:38:26.260
Suzanne Paquette writes, Marco Mendocino can't hide how nervous he is. He is sweating bullets and
00:38:32.980
holding back tears and fears of what is coming. Yeah, you know, I was listening to Sheila describe
00:38:38.020
Marco Mendocino. He's sort of awkward and really creepy. And we saw in other text messages that were
00:38:45.140
released that his own staff did not respect him. His own cabinet laughed at him and simply ignored him.
00:38:51.620
They knew he was not a decision maker. Literally, I don't know if you remember this,
00:38:56.100
his deputy minister wrote some report about this policing here, circulated it to other offices,
00:39:01.300
didn't even show it to Mendocino himself. No one takes Mendocino seriously. It's really embarrassing.
00:39:08.740
Science versus bigotry says, just wait for the in-camera evidence. It will probably be the way out for
00:39:14.340
Trudeau. What you're referring to is some evidence that is considered sensitive. And so it's being
00:39:20.660
shown to the judge, but without the public there. Well, I don't think we'll ever see that in-camera
00:39:25.140
evidence, will we? That's the whole point of it being in-camera. That means in the room closed.
00:39:31.700
Tanks in our streets. The liberals talked about deploying tanks against you and me.
00:39:36.500
That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:39:43.060
to you at home, good night. And keep fighting for freedom.
00:39:46.180
This is Callum Smiles for Rebel News, just outside of Heathrow Airport,
00:39:50.340
where we've come to check out multiple migrant hotels. There are reportedly over 200 migrant hotels
00:39:56.820
in the entire United Kingdom. But the ones at Heathrow have recently hit the headlines.
00:40:01.380
So we thought we'd come and check them out for ourselves. Here's the report.
00:40:04.660
Now, journalists are normally kept well away by security from these sorts of places.
00:40:11.540
But I thought I'd try my luck and see what I can discover and take you on a tour of some of
00:40:15.780
Britain's migrant hotels. First up on today's tour, the Crown Plaza on Stockley Road, just a 10 minute
00:40:22.340
drive from Heathrow Airport. This has been jokingly referred to online as Little Albania,
00:40:28.340
because apparently it is now home to several hundred Albanians who made the illegal crossing in small
00:40:34.100
boats. It's important to remember that this is one of hundreds of hotels across the country
00:40:39.220
being filled with migrants at the taxpayer's expense. The British taxpayer is currently paying
00:40:45.380
more than £6 million a day on hotels alone. So across the country, there have been local authorities
00:40:52.660
up in arms saying it's not appropriate to house migrants in tourist hotspots. And that's why some might
00:40:58.500
think locations like this would be perfect. It's out of the way. It's the kind of place you wouldn't
00:41:04.020
stay for long and it's a place where international residents wouldn't stand out as much.
00:41:08.340
Now, the Crown Plaza Hotel is a well-known chain of hotels and this one in particular offers a great
00:41:13.620
range of facilities, including a fitness centre, gym, conference rooms and a bar. This all sounds rather
00:41:21.460
nice, but that hasn't stopped campaigners claiming the hotels aren't enough and that they are dangerous.
00:41:28.100
What I found in the hotel was very typical of what you'd expect. The migrants are bored. They can't
00:41:33.940
work whilst their asylum claims are processed and the children aren't at school as there's no places.
00:41:39.700
And this is on a national scale. We have a shortage of school placements, a housing crisis,
00:41:44.980
an employment crisis. We're in recession and now we have an immigration crisis. It's clearly an
00:41:51.460
expensive operation. All the migrants receive three meals a day, are given weekly spending
00:41:57.780
allowances and free accommodation. There's 24-7 security who need to act as translators sometimes.
00:42:05.300
So we're in an odd situation where newly arrived immigrants are working as security guards guarding
00:42:11.300
illegal migrants whilst their asylum applications are processed. Hotels are not meant for permanent
00:42:17.620
living so the building has quickly become dirty and slum-like. Clothing hangs from windows and there
00:42:24.420
are issues with rubbish disposal and a general overcrowded mustiness throughout.
00:42:31.460
So now that we've left the Crown Plaza Hotel, just 10 minutes down the road outside of Heathrow
00:42:36.500
Airport is the Atrium Hotel. You might even recognise some of the viral footage from the
00:42:41.140
Atrium Hotel which the current guests have put on Snapchat which showed hundreds of men loitering in
00:42:48.340
the Atrium car park. This hotel has been commandeered by the UK government until April 2024 at the very
00:42:57.300
earliest at the cost of the UK taxpayer. Fortunately, just like the Crown Plaza Hotel, we managed to get
00:43:04.180
inside this one and have a good look around. Here's the footage.
00:43:18.020
Walking into the hotel, I noticed lots of migrants hanging out in the lobby talking to what appeared
00:43:23.300
to be immigration staff. The migrants can come and go freely whilst their asylum applications are processed,
00:43:29.940
so some spend the day relaxing in the hotel, whereas others freely roam the local area.
00:43:39.380
So getting into the Atrium Hotel was quite easy and now we're in, all we've seen are young men,
00:43:46.260
single and bored. The security don't really seem to be doing much, the conditions aren't. The hotel is nice,
00:43:52.580
but it has become starting to look derelict. There's rubbish across all the corridors. We've seen a
00:44:02.500
trail of blood going down the stairs. Every single floor has security personnel at the god knows what
00:44:10.260
cost of the taxpayer. There's laundry on every floor, we've seen mountains of laundry. There's food,
00:44:18.020
there are bags of food outside of every door. We don't know how much the catering here is costing,
00:44:23.140
but we know they're getting three meals a day. We've seen bags of food outside of doors. Often the food's
00:44:29.380
even going to waste. But one thing we do know is that the government has actually condeed this one
00:44:35.060
particular hotel until April 2024 at the earliest. So what we know is that there are hundreds of men in
00:44:43.620
this building waiting for their asylum process to be completed, which could take years. And we have
00:44:52.820
more and more coming each week. As we've seen this year alone, we've had over 40,000. Last year it was
00:44:58.660
around 20,000. That was just the illegals we knew about. And that's going to be costing the taxpayer an
00:45:05.300
extremely high amount and it's only going to grow. What I've shown you today are just two of more than
00:45:13.540
200 hotels being used to house young male migrants around the country. On this map,
00:45:20.660
it shows some of the hotels being used to house migrants that we know of. The Daily Mail ran an
00:45:25.780
article in November. This article was interesting because it mentioned many recent incidents around
00:45:30.820
the migrant hotel situation. It mentions at the Holiday Inn in Colchester, two migrants staged a
00:45:38.100
rooftop protest which was recorded on video and went viral online. In the video, the men are shouting
00:45:45.140
in Urdu, the language used by Pakistanis. There's been questions about security. In Essex, at the
00:45:52.100
four-star Great Hallingbury Manor, which has been taken over to house 50 male migrants aged under 40 from
00:45:58.420
North Africa, with two staff looking after them, according to locals. This Tudor-style property is now
00:46:04.020
closed to the public because it's housing North African migrants on the taxpayer's expense.
00:46:09.060
In Rotherham, local residents have complained about the noise coming from the Holiday Inn Express,
00:46:14.180
which is being used to house migrants. Reports of loud music late into the night and groups of men
00:46:20.180
playing football till all hours of the night. One local resident called for a curfew because the
00:46:25.940
migrants are disturbing the children's sleep. The Stoke-Rochford Hall, advertised as a luxurious
00:46:32.340
Victorian mansion, decided to take up the lucrative government offer to house migrants and then
00:46:37.700
cancelled pre-booking and even cancelling people's wedding bookings, according to TripAdvisor reviews.
00:46:43.780
In Waltham Forest, East London, a 39-year-old migrant was arrested on suspicion of raping a 13-year-old boy,
00:46:51.620
who was then released on bail and has since disappeared.
00:46:55.700
This incident happened at a migrant hotel housing 450 migrants and 150 of them being children.
00:47:03.380
However, it's not just locals complaining with the current situation.
00:47:07.940
The migrants themselves are complaining about hotel living.
00:47:11.700
Only a few days ago, the Russ Hill Hotel near Gatwick Airport had unpleasant scenes when a large
00:47:17.540
group of migrants living there were upset about their conditions and began to cause disturbances in the hotel.
00:47:23.220
In other areas, similar complaints are being made by the migrants.
00:47:28.580
In Bristol, a group of migrants living at the Holiday Inn near the airport have said they are
00:47:33.940
cut off from shops, people and asylum seekers' services.
00:47:38.260
The hundred young men from Sudan, Eritrea, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Somalia have to take buses
00:47:45.380
into the city for medical or legal appointments.
00:47:47.940
With the situation deteriorating across the country and large numbers expected to arrive
00:47:53.380
in the coming months, it appears as though the British immigration system is in tatters
00:47:57.940
and the government are reluctant to address the issue.
00:48:01.380
The Home Office admitted using hotels to house migrants was unacceptable
00:48:10.420
So today has been both eye-opening and concerning.
00:48:14.180
Eye-opening because of the sheer scale of this mass migration crisis
00:48:18.980
and concerning because of the sheer scale of this mass migration crisis.
00:48:23.780
After seeing only two hotels today with lots and lots of young men,
00:48:28.020
this is costing the UK taxpayer over £6 million per day in housing alone.
00:48:34.980
And that doesn't account for things like allowances, catering, security and many other expenses.
00:48:42.500
So this has been Callum Smiles in Heathrow after seeing two hotels for Rebel News.