EZRA LEVANT ｜ Trump on trial： Ezra Levant from New York City
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Trump is on trial in New York City, and the media and hecklers are out in droves. It's a spectacle you don't want to miss. And it's not just outside the courthouse, it's on the streets of New York as well.
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I'm on the streets of New York City. I'm standing outside the courthouse where Donald Trump is on
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trial inside. It's just as interesting outside, I can assure you of that. I want you to see what
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I saw outside here. Hecklers, both on the left and the right, Democrats and Republicans. Very
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interesting points of view and the biggest press scrum I've ever seen in my life. I want you to
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Tonight, Trump on trial. I'm in New York City to watch the media and the hecklers as Donald Trump's
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prosecution continues. It's May 31st and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Well, hi there. I'm in New York City. I'm actually on route to Geneva where Rebel News will be covering
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the World Health Organization Treaty. The cheapest way to get there was through New York, but also
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while we're here, why don't we do a show about the prosecution in this building over there? There's
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so many courts in lower Manhattan. Donald Trump used to frequent these courts as a litigant. There's
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fewer professions that are more litigious than being a property developer in Manhattan. Donald Trump is
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back in these courts as a defendant. He's been prosecuted in baldly political sham trials that
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win or lose, they damage him politically. Or so the theory goes. Because the last poll I saw shows
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Trump leading by a significant amount in all the battleground states. Over the course of the next half
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hour, we'll show you a little bit of the press that's gathered here and also grassroots New Yorkers
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of every stripe. Wacky, sober, Republican, Democrat, just a little taste in New York City.
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But I want to say one more thing. The prosecution of Donald Trump is the banana republicification,
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if I can make up a word, of the U.S. judicial system, which is terrifying and terrible. It's
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almost to the point where in certain jurisdictions, blue states, where you have a heavily Democrat jury,
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for example, a Republican might not be able to get any justice. Now, that's a terrible thing when
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people lose respect for the justice system. And in this case, I think that's at the hands of
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prosecutors and judges who have decided it is morally more important to stop Trump than to follow the
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law. I used to think that this is a particularly American phenomenon. And luckily, we don't have that
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in Canada yet. I mean, Pierre Polyev hasn't been prosecuted by Justin Trudeau. Even Maxime Bernier,
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he was prosecuted for a COVID ticket by the province of Manitoba. But if I'm not mistaken,
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it was withdrawn. I could be wrong on my memory on that. And that was an abusive ticket, no doubt about
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it. But it was in no way comparable to the total lawfare warfare here in New York. But then I
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thought, hang on, that's not quite right. Because although Pierre Polyev or Maxime Bernier or Danielle
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Smith or Jason Kenney or any other conservative leaders themselves have not been put through the
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grinder, perhaps it's because they're all rather mild compared to the real political actors in Canada
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over the last five years, namely freedom-oriented individual citizens, the truckers in particular,
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and those who came out to support the truckers. Because what is the trial of Tamara Leach other than
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lawfare, the weaponization of the courts? For inciting mischief, she was jailed for 49 days.
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And her trial itself is close to a year. Were it not for our crowdfunding efforts, there's no way she could
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afford the significant six-figure legal fees. Same thing with Arthur Pawlowski. Same thing for the
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Coutts defendants. Same thing for the 3,000 ordinary people that the Democracy Fund has crowdfunded their
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legals for. So here in America, their lawfare targets the spectacular. Donald Trump, former president,
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billionaire, TV celebrity, household name. But in Canada, lawfare targets the little people,
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people who dare to keep their restaurant open during the lockdowns, like Adam Skelly and his
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smoked meat restaurant in Toronto, or without Papers Pizza in Calgary, or restaurants across the
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country, churches across the country. In Canada, we have politicized lawfare too. We just pick on the
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little guy. Anyways, that's my preamble. Let's see what we have to see here in New York.
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So what do you, what do you think? This is quite a spectacle. There's got to be 100 reporters over
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there. Yes, I'm excited to see them. I know them all. Really? I saw Judge Jeanine there, I think.
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Judge, that's who I'm going to see. Well, she's here. And how about yourself? I'm just following my
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wife. Well, that's good advice. That's always good advice. So what do you think about the trial?
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I think it's a total sham. I think it never should have been brought. This is, this is a state
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attorney. And he's charging a federal crime. He has no business. This is out of his wheelhouse.
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This is, he has no right to bring this case at all. Now, let me ask you this. If he's convicted,
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will that do more damage to Trump's reputation or the court's reputation? Definitely the court's.
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It's already ruined. I mean, they're laughing at us everywhere in the world. They're saying,
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what's going on? This isn't America. This isn't what we respect and know. This is ridiculous. It's,
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So why are you here wearing so much Trump merchandise?
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I'm here to show, show support. I wear this to show my love to this country and Trump love this
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country. That's why we, we wear this Trump gear to support him.
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And I see you're here with some friends. Are you guys sisters or are you just friends?
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We, we were strangers before, but the love of this country, the support to Trump brought us to
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Geyser. Can I ask where you're from originally?
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Original from China. Uh, all of us from China because we run from communists.
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And we see this country is going down to communists. That's why we stand up. We, we, we take action. Okay.
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Wait, wait, wait. When you say communists, you know what communists is?
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Communists is a dictatorship. First of all, they said Martin Luther King was a communist.
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All right. So, so you, I know you, you, communist is dictatorship. This country is not communist.
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What, what is that? Well, when he become president, that's what he's talking about.
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The sham trial makes it look like a communist political persecution. That's why all the
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immigrants come to this country because it's a free democracy. Right.
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We came here legally. Okay. Legally. We encourage legal immigration.
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But a country without border, not a country. Okay.
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So why do you go back to your country then? Why you come here?
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I came here legally. I pursue a degree. I, I have a formal job, you know.
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Yeah. I'm a decent American citizen. I love this country.
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Why would you turn against this country and say communist?
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No, this country is going to communist. That's why we are worried. We worry.
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It's going to be communist. How do you know that?
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What do you, you got it? You got it. You got it.
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It's a sham trial. This sham trial. This political persecution.
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It's a sham trial. Oh, it's a witch hunt, right?
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If it, if it, if it walks like a duck and it sounds like a duck and it quacks like a duck,
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What? What are you saying? What are you saying?
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So you're saying he's, he's innocent or everything.
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I, I'm, I have, I have work to do. Okay. Sorry.
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Why are we still talking about January election 2020 and 2024? Why are we still talking about that?
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Why can't he concede? Why can't he say he lost? Why he lost? He lost because he lost.
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No, they don't. Because you got people that voted that was in your body.
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Six states. Six states. Six states. Six states. Stop counting.
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All of a sudden, Biden curves. This is such a joke.
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What are you doing? They already copped to it. They copped to it.
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Tomatoes and all of them, they said, Mr. President, you lost.
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You lost, Mr. President. So, what are you going to say about that?
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Mr. President, we lost. Even his daughter said you lost.
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Go to another side. That, that, you belong to another side.
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Mr. President, you lost. Oh, can you find, um, 11...
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They'll find, um, 11,000. Ah, that's what he said.
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All right. Hey, I'm talking about his words, see?
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Joe Biden is the president of United States of America.
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Uh, screaming does not mean you are right, okay?
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As you could say, I haven't even had a chance to change yet.
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I think that great damage has been done to the United States.
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Their reputation for law and order and rule of law and checks and balances.
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I am afraid they are going to sentence Trump to prison.
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If this were being done by Vladimir Putin, we would criticize them.
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Anyways, I just wanted to give you that update.
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Because when I was filming in New York and finished up there,
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But hey, I just want to let you know, I am in Geneva now.
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And if you want to see my journalism from this mission, go to NoPandemicTreaty.com.
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I don't care who want to get mad, who want to get facts, who want to suck, but he's a good man.
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Look into ourself and see if this is the world we want to live our life in AI.
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Where is AI going for the future generation, for the people to live?
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We need engine, motor, resource, man and woman to live, not AI for a future generation.
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I get bragging rights because I was born in Brooklyn.
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Born in, I'm a Brooklyn native, but I lived in Queens and then moved
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from Queens, New York to a chicken farm in Northern California.
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The chicken farm, I mean, there's some very serious chicken farmers out there,
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but it sounds like it was a political project for you.
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It was a political project for my parents, where they went to live in this sort of
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semi-utopian chicken farming community in a town that's now well known called Petaluma,
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about which a book was written called Comrades and Chicken Farmers.
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You were a socialist chicken farming community.
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This is a, this is a New York Uniqlo scarf that I bought a long time ago.
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Brooklyn native, Jewish, went to a hippie chicken farm commune in Northern California,
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I don't want to stereotype you, but I'm going to guess you're not a Trump supporter.
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By the way, I'm also a graduate of UC Berkeley during.
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During the anti-war and free speech movement days.
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I myself, I'm a member of the tribe, and I come from a less hippie background.
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Are you worried about prosecuting people more and more for having incorrect views, about
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people losing their jobs over it, about wokeism, silencing dissent?
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What troubles me is that what's been happening is that people are no longer talking to each
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They're locked in, they're polarized, and one person has their set of facts and opinions,
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another person has their set of facts and opinions, and there's no middle ground.
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I'm a very strong believer in the middle ground.
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Do you engage with people on the other side of the fence?
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I try to engage with these people here, and this woman just said, or I tried to engage with
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You know, he doesn't seem that edgy, but he basically said, your mind is made up.
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You're not willing to think about what I'm saying.
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Well, let me put something to you, and I'd love your reaction.
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And we can have that back and forth across the aisle.
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I have a thesis that the more Donald Trump is prosecuted in what a lot of people think
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are politicized lawfare, where the courts are weaponized, where
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disagreements are turned into criminal disputes, the more people see Trump as a victim.
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And if you look at the latest polls, he's actually going up.
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And I put it to you that it looks like he's being treated by a banana republic.
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I think, unfortunately, there could be a backlash.
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And that to some people, it does look like it's a banana republic, and he's being unfairly prosecuted.
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Have any Democrats like Hillary Clinton been prosecuted in the same manner?
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Well, there were certainly attempts to prosecute Hillary Clinton.
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I can't say that there was enough evidence to prosecute her, but there were certainly attempts to,
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including when Robert Mueller spoke out just before the election and made statements that
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There's an attempt to prosecute Biden's son right now.
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And, you know, I happen to be a lawyer, but, you know, so I don't know enough about the facts of
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There was an attempt to, you know, there was an impeachment of Bill Clinton.
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So both sides have engaged in this kind of warfare when they've had the opportunity to do it.
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They're both equally, you know, culpable of engaging in that kind of activity.
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What's interesting to me is, despite all these prosecutions, Trump is ahead in the polls.
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And by the way, thanks for stopping to talk with me.
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I mean, we're from Canada, by the way, and we look to America.
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We look to America as leaders in democracy and freedom.
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President's chief opponent being put on trial in such a persistent manner smacks of lawfare?
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Do you think this undermines America's standing in the world as a leader for freedom and democracy and rule of law?
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And I'm hoping that we elect President Trump and we get some honest people in the DOJ.
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And, you know, these are all prosecutors who are appointed by a very, very liberal billionaire, George Soros.
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We're in a very, very liberal part of the world.
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Manhattan, without checking, I'd guess it went 85 percent Democrat in the last election.
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Or is everyone set in their views on Trump and Biden?
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In a few hours, I have to go to JFK Airport to fly to Geneva, Switzerland.
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That's where the World Health Organization is meeting to try to consecrate a global pandemic treaty.
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Now, it looks like they're having trouble with the final text, but these folks never stop.
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We've seen that with these UN global warming conferences.
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The World Health Organization, remember, is part of the UN.
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We're going to try and find out what's going on with the delegates.
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And I don't know if you know this, but they're trying to get a kind of convoy going in Europe
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to convene in Geneva, and they're going to have speeches in opposition.
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Until next time, when we'll be in Geneva, Switzerland, for Rebel News, I'm Ezra Levant.
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We're actually surrounded by NGO-type offices up there, the International Red Cross.
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And, of course, the most luxurious building around is this restaurant where all the ambassadors,
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politicians, lobbyists, and other hangers-on spend your money having a delicious five-star lunch.
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The reason I'm here is not because Switzerland itself is interesting.
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Sometimes we travel places to see what's going on in Ireland, in France.
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But we're here in Geneva because this is where Canadian law is being written.
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I don't know if you know this, but the World Health Organization is part of the United Nations.
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That's where Dr. Tedros basically ordered the world to lock down.
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The risk of returning to lockdown remains very real if countries do not manage the transition.
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And Canada's chief public health officer, Theresa Tam, was part of the World Health Organization
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And she is here with people from around the world,
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none of them elected to pass a pandemic treaty.
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The one we all went through with COVID-19 was a test drive.
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They want to codify this in a treaty so that the next one, and oh, they say there will be a next one,
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they can snap into attention with a global response that's drafted here at the UN, not back home in Ottawa.
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I believe the time is right for an international treaty or other legally binding instrument to provide
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the framework for a more coherent and coordinated response to future epidemics and pandemics.
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You may have seen headlines the other day that the countries of the world could not agree
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And you may have thought, oh, good, we dodged a bullet.
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And just like the UN global warming, for instance, meets year after year,
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they will chip away at our national sovereignty and keep pushing their agenda year after year.
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In fact, they would love to meet again in a year.
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Everyone flying to Geneva, everyone dining at the five-star restaurant.
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The number one point I want to say to you is if you thought Teresa Tam and Justin Trudeau were bad
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in COVID-19, imagine how much worse they'll be with a pandemic treaty behind them,
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with a law that is drafted here in Geneva, not in Canada's parliament,
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not debated in Canada's parliament, not with consultations for Canadian voters,
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but foreign interests, including large pharmaceutical interests,
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I see ambassadors and staff from every country in the world.
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let me share with you a clip from Teresa Tam herself.
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In fact, I want to play this entire two-minute speech of hers,
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because I want you to understand what her agenda is.
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But listen to her talk about DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion.
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There is nothing that she doesn't see this pandemic treaty doing cooked up here, not at home.
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Together, we must improve health promotion efforts to reduce disease burden and foster mental and
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An integrated approach to essential service delivery requires the inclusion of nutrition,
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sexual and reproductive health and rights, and routine vaccination.
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This also means strengthening both external and domestic financing for health,
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which is why Canada is invested in the LUSACA agenda.
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We must also step up our efforts to address systemic and historical discrimination against
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Gender equality is foundational to a peaceful, prosperous and sustainable future for all.
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Let us continue to fight racism, sexual and gender-based violence,
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and discrimination against marginalized groups, including 2SLGBTQI plus people, women and girls.
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And let us renew our support for those on the front lines of care.
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We have a collective responsibility to ensure the protection of our healthcare workers,
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and condemn the unacceptable attack on them and on health facilities.
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The many conflicts in the world, including Gaza and Ukraine,
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serve as stark reminders of the fragile nature of accessing critical health services.
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Canada urges all member states to support WHO's critical health emergencies work.
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A strong WHO must also be inclusive, reflecting the entire global community.
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This means supporting Taiwan's meaningful participation as an observer at the World Health Assembly.
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This week, we will collectively decide on next steps on both the pandemic agreement
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and on the IHR amendment and negotiations. Canada remains committed to continuing to work together
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to prevent and minimize the devastating consequences of future global health emergencies and pandemics,
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and to further advancing health equity for all. A meaningful pandemic agreement is consensus-based,
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and one that member states can sign, ratify, and implement. Thank you very much.
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I'm here in Geneva today and tomorrow. I just got off the plane. I haven't even had a chance to check in
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at our hotel yet and have a shower. I'm a little disheveled. Forgive me for that. We flew here,
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and we are not just going to report on the treaty, which is difficult because, of course,
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we're not allowed access to where the delegates are, but we understand that there is a global coalition
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fighting back, including some Canadian doctors and some other famous dissidents that you would know
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their names from COVID-19, for example, Dr. Malone. So we are going to meet with the resistance. In fact,
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tonight we're going to head just across the border in France, where they're trying to get together a
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trucker-style convoy to converge here in Geneva. Now, I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know if
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it's going to be a big turnout or just a few people. I don't know if people have stopped caring
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because the crisis has passed. I think that's what they're counting on here. These folks at the UN
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behind me are counting on everyone going back to life as normal, forgetting the crisis while they
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beaver away to make plans for the next crisis when their reaction will be 10 times tougher. I want to
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keep you posted on this. We've set up a special website, nopandemictreaty.com, nopandemictreaty.com.
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That's where we're going to compile our videos on this subject and invite you to sign our petition
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against the pandemic treaty. I don't believe in a pandemic treaty, but I especially don't believe
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in one that is written in a foreign country without our democratic assent. Finally, I did fly here
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overnight along with our head of video Efrain Flores Monsanto. And if you can help the two of us
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cover our economy class airfare and hotel, I'd be grateful to you. Geneva is a pretty far journey.
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There's no direct flights from Canada, so we had to sort of hop, skip and jump our way here. We're
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staying economy class, but between the two of us, the flights and the hotel will add up to more than
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$2,500. If you can help me cover the cost of that at nopandemictreaty.com, I'd be grateful.
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I'll give you as many updates as I can. We're going to try and jam in as many interviews and as much
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coverage as we can in two days, and we'll be back in Canada to ring the alarm bells. Visit nopandemictreaty.com.