Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Tucker Carlson's Putin interview proves the elitist, corporate media is on its last legs

00:00:00.120 Hello, my friends. Today we take on Tucker Carlson's interview with Vladimir Putin. He was very interesting, very long, over two hours, very popular, well over 100 million viewers. By the time you listen to this, it's probably 200 million, and that's on the Twitter platform alone.

00:00:15.900 A lot of people told me he shouldn't do the interview, but you watch for yourself and tell me, how would you learn and hear the things if he didn't do the interview? I think they just didn't want a skeptic of the war doing the interview, and I don't think they wanted a citizen journalist doing it either.

00:00:31.340 Let me invite you to get the video version of this podcast so you can see Putin in the interview and see my other guests I interviewed today. Just go to rebelnewsplus.com, click subscribe. It's eight bucks a month. And that money, frankly, is how we survive as citizen journalists. That's Rebel News Plus. All right, here's today's podcast.

00:01:01.340 Tonight, Tucker Carlson interviews Vladimir Putin for two full hours, and the media party goes nuts. It's February 9th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:17.680 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:31.340 Hi there. I'm going to go in detail and in depth in Tucker Carlson's interesting interview with Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia. The interview itself was more than two hours long, including a half-hour history lesson by Vladimir Putin about the region of Ukraine and Russia and Poland.

00:01:52.680 It was a very unusual interview, and there were so many interesting nuggets in it. Tucker Carlson himself, after the interview, said it's going to take him a year just to intellectually unpack what he had just went through.

00:02:06.180 He said it was a surprising interview in a number of ways, and I think one of the reasons is that Putin is not used to interviews. I mean, he's an authoritarian ruler of a partially free country. He's not used to the scrums and the back and forth with the media party, which, when you think about it, dominates an awful lot of what our politicians do in the West.

00:02:29.100 They're either writing press releases or having press conferences or giving speeches or doing question period even for the consumption of the media, and then to turn that media product into election success.

00:02:41.420 Well, none of those things are required for Vladimir Putin. He spends his time governing, planning, strategizing, learning, including, obviously, learning about history.

00:02:51.180 So I think there was a bit of a culture class between Tucker Carlson, who's at the leading edge of social media and talk radio and talk TV, and Putin, who really may observe that world, but it's not part of it.

00:03:03.540 I thought there was a lot of interesting things in it, and I did my live stream on it today for about 90 minutes, which, as you can tell, isn't even enough time to encapsulate the whole interview itself.

00:03:15.780 And so what I'm going to do today is I'm going to flip the show around. I did an interview today with my friend Alan Bokhari, who used to be the senior tech editor at Breitbart.com, but now he works full-time for Internet Freedom.

00:03:29.460 And I didn't know that until we booked him today, and it was a very interesting conversation. So I'm going to put the interview first, and then I'm going to put a slightly pared-down version of my live stream, because it has the clips I wanted to show you anyways.

00:03:44.700 So we're going to trim down what was 90 minutes. By the way, I do the live stream. We do it once a week now. We used to do it more often during the lockdowns, but every Friday from 1 to 2 Eastern, which is 11 a.m. till noon Mountain Time, we have a live stream.

00:03:59.760 Often it's my friends Sheila Gunn-Reed and David Menzies doing it, but occasionally I do it too. And so that's where I'm taking it from, but it's the videos I want to show you.

00:04:10.500 Canada made an appearance. Of course, Putin took advantage of Trudeau's atrocious mistake of inviting a Nazi SS officer into Parliament. Putin mentioned that. That was really the only reference of Canada, but it was a wide-ranging discussion.

00:04:24.040 And, of course, when you interview any political leader, you are going to hear propaganda. I think that's true with Western leaders as well. There was an enormous chorus of people saying,

00:04:36.560 Do not do this interview, Tucker. This is a traitorous act. I'm not sure. I mean, if someone said to me, Ezra, you can interview the head of Hamas, or you can interview the Ayatollah of Iran.

00:04:47.980 Well, obviously, that would never happen. And if it did happen, my first question would be my own safety. I mean, both of them would want to kill me.

00:04:55.520 But if I didn't think that that would happen, of course I would take the interview. Of course, I would do my best to ask questions that illuminated things, elicited things, to draw out their meaning.

00:05:05.600 Even though I would know it would be propaganda, I think that it would be a useful exercise. I don't know. Those things will never happen.

00:05:12.200 And I think the same response would be there for Tucker Carlson. By the way, other journalists have interviewed Vladimir Putin over the years.

00:05:19.560 And, by the way, he's in a war now. Putin invaded Ukraine in 2014 as well, whether it's Barbara Walters or Charlie Rose or a half dozen other American journalists, let alone European journalists.

00:05:32.580 I think it was more because Tucker Carlson has been a skeptic of the war and financial aid to Ukraine, and because Tucker Carlson is a citizen journalist.

00:05:43.000 And so you have the ideological opposition to him by the CNNs of the world, and you also have the professional rivalry.

00:05:50.980 In fact, some great interviewers out there who I think would do a good job interviewing Putin were just angry that they didn't get the chance.

00:05:59.620 I saw one video, and I don't think I played it in the live stream, so let me play it for you now.

00:06:03.820 Here's one video that I think, I hate to say it, sums up the state of journalism in the West on the matter of the Russia-Ukraine war.

00:06:12.540 And, by the way, I don't like the Russia-Ukraine war. I don't like any war.

00:06:15.980 And, as you know, I visited the Ukraine pavilion at the World Economic Forum twice now, and I found it very touching and very compelling.

00:06:22.940 And the human cost of that war is absolutely tragic.

00:06:26.900 And I believe the war must end.

00:06:30.300 And I think the war ends either with absolute defeat of one side, which I don't think will happen here, or a negotiated outcome.

00:06:38.000 I mean, you had the unconditional surrender of the Japanese and the Germans in the Second World War after total destruction, total civilian loss.

00:06:46.640 I don't think anybody wants that.

00:06:48.960 So, one of the discussions Tucker Carlson had with Putin was about the path to peace, and I thought that was very interesting.

00:06:54.780 And for all the people telling Tucker Carlson not to do the interview, well, you bet they were all watching it.

00:06:59.780 Both fans and foes of Putin, both Americans and Russians and Chinese.

00:07:04.080 In fact, the last I checked, well, over 100 million people had watched the interview.

00:07:10.740 Anyhow, like I said, here's an example of a softball interview that the media party is more accustomed to.

00:07:17.000 This was with Vladimir Zelensky, of course.

00:07:19.160 Can you believe this?

00:07:20.320 As a human being, so many people look up to you.

00:07:24.440 They rely on you.

00:07:26.200 No one can imagine how hard that is.

00:07:28.080 Do you do anything to yourself?

00:07:31.580 Are you ever able to take a minute to read or to listen to music or something to sort of give yourself that moment?

00:07:40.280 I have such moments.

00:07:41.300 It's important to be in silence, to be alone.

00:07:44.720 And early, early in the morning, when there are no sounds, no people, no nobody.

00:07:51.060 I mean, the people, our stuff.

00:07:52.880 I mean, nobody is in my cabinet, nobody.

00:07:56.340 I can just read, think, think, and the music house, really.

00:08:01.260 What music do you like?

00:08:03.180 Oh, I like ACDC.

00:08:05.700 ACDC, I don't understand all the words because of...

00:08:10.040 You like the music.

00:08:10.920 Yeah, I like energy.

00:08:12.500 Maybe it's too old, the music for...

00:08:15.220 I understand.

00:08:15.980 We're the same.

00:08:17.880 I love it.

00:08:18.880 No, no, it's important to have sometimes at 6 or 7 in the morning, some trainings.

00:08:26.380 Workouts.

00:08:26.880 Yes, workouts.

00:08:28.120 Or to do something with music, with such music, which gives you energy for all the day.

00:08:36.000 Yeah, that's non-journalism.

00:08:56.580 And maybe out of, I don't know, ideological or geopolitical solidarity, there's a place for that.

00:09:02.600 But that's not a hard-hitting interview.

00:09:04.000 I think there's a lot of important and tough questions that should be put to Vladimir Zelensky.

00:09:09.200 And I don't know if anyone will be impressed that Tucker Carlson put tough enough questions to Vladimir Putin.

00:09:16.300 But I think anyone who watched the two hours will say it was illuminating and they learned a lot.

00:09:21.140 And they probably saw more of Vladimir Putin last night than they had in the last five years combined.

00:09:27.160 Because when was the last time you saw any political leader do a two-hour interview?

00:09:31.280 That's not the style in the West.

00:09:32.720 We know for a fact Joe Biden couldn't do a two-hour interview.

00:09:36.640 The only thing he can do for two hours is have a nap.

00:09:39.280 And Justin Trudeau could talk for two hours, but it would be blather and babble.

00:09:43.640 He couldn't give a half-hour historical lecture on the background of Canada.

00:09:48.160 It was a remarkable interview, and I myself haven't fully digested it.

00:09:53.540 I think it'll take a while, but it was definitely a historic interview.

00:09:57.000 So without further ado, let me introduce the first segment, which was my discussion with Alan Bocari.

00:10:03.280 And then after that, we'll have the excerpts from my live stream.

00:10:07.280 Well, one of the takeaways from our visit to the World Economic Forum in Davos

00:10:23.180 was the focus that the world's oligarchs put on censorship, and not just journalistic censorship,

00:10:30.980 but censorship in every aspect of the world.

00:10:33.880 I think that's one of the things they hope to unlock with artificial intelligence.

00:10:38.280 And so I'm reminded of the massive censorship factories that Facebook used to contract with.

00:10:45.420 They would have hundreds of human censors going through post after post after post,

00:10:50.500 determining what would be blocked, what would be deleted, what would be suspended.

00:10:55.260 And after millions of these human interactions, well, the machine watched and learned.

00:11:02.220 And as far as I know, there are no longer any factories with humans doing censorship.

00:11:06.920 It's all the algorithm.

00:11:09.100 It's all artificial intelligence.

00:11:10.740 That was one of the things on the minds of the delegates at the World Economic Forum,

00:11:15.760 and not just for any general purpose, but to stop Donald Trump from winning the 2024 election.

00:11:23.200 That's why the two names you heard most over there were Donald Trump, of course, the devil incarnate,

00:11:29.780 and Elon Musk, his angel who would enable him.

00:11:33.760 Well, one of the ways they are going ahead with this is through the so-called fact-checking industry.

00:11:40.480 I have in my hand a new report by the Foundation for Freedom Online.

00:11:44.520 The headline of this report is Protection Racket,

00:11:48.640 Why the Censorship Industry Needs to Bail Out the Media.

00:11:53.580 And Canadians will know a bit about that.

00:11:55.340 Joining us now via Skype from Austin, Texas,

00:11:58.100 is the Managing Director of the Foundation for Freedom Online, our old friend, Alan Bokhari.

00:12:03.060 Alan, great to see you again.

00:12:04.200 We had you on the show a lot when you were the tech editor at Breitbart.com,

00:12:09.300 but I'm delighted that you have this new position, Fighting for Freedom Every Day.

00:12:14.360 Yes, it's, you know, a very similar topic.

00:12:17.480 The censorship issue isn't going away.

00:12:20.080 In fact, it might get even more important in 2024.

00:12:23.580 They're trying to do the same old things,

00:12:26.640 but, you know, there are more free speech-friendly platforms around now.

00:12:30.700 Twitter, or X, I should say, and Rumble, which I know you're on.

00:12:36.960 So, you know, what we've seen at the Foundation for Freedom Online

00:12:39.880 is that the censorship industry is looking for new methods and new tools

00:12:43.480 to cement the advantages they built up in 2020,

00:12:46.840 when I think censorship was really at its peak.

00:12:49.800 And in this particular report, we're looking at sort of the other side of the coin to censorship,

00:12:57.660 which is, you know, censorship is the suppression of disfavored speech,

00:13:01.900 a speech that the establishment doesn't want to be out there.

00:13:05.720 But the other side of that is the promotion of,

00:13:08.660 the artificial promotion of the establishment's speech and narratives that they do like.

00:13:14.000 And the big concern for the establishment right now is that the mainstream media is in decline,

00:13:19.680 and it has been in decline for a very long time.

00:13:22.560 And especially with the rise of digital technologies and social media,

00:13:26.360 there's less and less need to rely on old-school newspapers

00:13:30.060 and broadcast channels and cable channels to receive news.

00:13:34.680 So, I mean, all these bills around the world, including in Canada,

00:13:40.000 to effectively bail out the media to either directly give them taxpayer money,

00:13:44.720 which I know happened in Canada,

00:13:46.340 or to establish a permanent funnel of revenue from tech companies to media companies

00:13:54.420 to ensure that they never go on, that they never go bust.

00:13:57.620 Well, that's exactly what's happening in Canada.

00:13:59.780 I mean, reading your report, I thought,

00:14:01.160 well, we're unfortunately further down that road than America is,

00:14:04.740 because your report suggests that the censorship fact-checking outfits themselves

00:14:10.080 would be the source or the conduit for the dough.

00:14:12.740 In Canada, they don't even pretend.

00:14:14.200 It's from Trudeau.

00:14:15.740 They are going to be grabbing money from Google.

00:14:20.320 Facebook has said they're not going to participate for now.

00:14:22.320 But in Canada, the government affects censorship in two ways.

00:14:27.160 Number one, with a stick.

00:14:29.300 But that's too obvious, so the more powerful way is, number two,

00:14:33.640 with a carrot, by basically bribing journalists.

00:14:38.200 Tell us what you're afraid of in America.

00:14:40.180 I've read the report, and I could read through it,

00:14:42.880 but why don't you just tell us how it would work in America,

00:14:47.960 because I don't think your government is quite as meddlesome in the media

00:14:53.000 as ours is because of your First Amendment.

00:14:55.260 So how are they getting around that?

00:14:56.900 Tell us how it would work in this censorship fact-checking dystopia.

00:15:03.300 So in the United States, there's a bill that media lobbyists have been trying to pass

00:15:10.080 for about three years now.

00:15:13.920 And I covered it in a lot of Breitbart News,

00:15:16.660 which is one of the only sort of media companies in the U.S.

00:15:20.200 that really opposed the bill.

00:15:21.180 There were many conservative companies that supported it as well.

00:15:23.960 But it's called the Journalism, Competition, and Preservation Act.

00:15:28.020 And what it does is very similar to the Canada's Online News Act

00:15:31.900 and Australia's News Media Bargaining Code.

00:15:35.300 Both of those two laws were passed very recently in the past few years.

00:15:40.100 What it does is it allows media companies to get together in a kind of cartel,

00:15:44.800 a legal cartel.

00:15:45.840 And that cartel can then go to tech companies and effectively demand deals

00:15:51.080 that give them a permanent funnel of ad revenue,

00:15:54.360 along with other advantages they might ask for.

00:15:56.900 Of course, you know, the media writes its own rules

00:15:59.060 as to who is and isn't allowed in the cartel.

00:16:01.520 And there are all sorts of little loopholes in the bill

00:16:03.400 to make sure that sort of independent podcasters and YouTubers

00:16:06.760 and independent journalists can't benefit from the negotiations

00:16:11.180 of the big media cartel.

00:16:13.320 You know, for example, you need a special license number

00:16:16.380 that really only established media companies have.

00:16:20.380 But what the cartel will be able to do

00:16:23.040 is impose these agreements on Silicon Valley companies

00:16:26.480 through arbitration that give them a permanent funnel of ad revenue.

00:16:30.680 So even if their audiences are going down,

00:16:32.440 even if people don't want to read them anymore,

00:16:34.360 Silicon Valley will still have to pay them,

00:16:37.140 will still have to pay them.

00:16:38.420 And the way they justify the bill is by saying,

00:16:41.600 well, look, our content is on social media platforms.

00:16:44.100 Social media platforms are benefiting by getting ad revenue.

00:16:48.160 The more people see media links and media posts on their platforms,

00:16:52.280 we're giving them activity,

00:16:53.400 and with activity comes more ad revenue.

00:16:55.620 But, you know, Facebook banned news links in Canada

00:16:58.040 when they passed the online...

00:16:59.480 We know.

00:17:00.000 You can post a Rebel News story on Facebook or Instagram.

00:17:03.720 It'll show up blocked.

00:17:05.040 It's like we're in North Korea or something.

00:17:08.940 I know.

00:17:10.040 And, you know, it's really bad for independent media outlets.

00:17:14.080 But one thing, Facebook's usage statistics

00:17:16.200 were not really impacted by banning news links at all.

00:17:21.260 And it's one thing to say that, you know,

00:17:25.660 social media companies, tech companies,

00:17:27.380 should share their ad revenue with the people that...

00:17:30.840 With the creators that are bringing them activity.

00:17:34.340 But these bills are strictly limited to establishment media companies.

00:17:38.700 There's not everyone who's eligible to receive ad revenue.

00:17:45.180 It doesn't do anything for people who are going to be monetized

00:17:47.460 by social media platforms, despite bringing them lots of activity.

00:17:51.120 It's really just for establishment media companies.

00:17:53.580 You mentioned a moment ago about a...

00:17:56.580 I think you called it a license number or something.

00:17:59.100 You have to get some sort of accreditation.

00:18:01.840 Now, in Canada, that's done by our version of the IRS,

00:18:05.900 the Canada Revenue Agency, a government agency.

00:18:08.680 You have to apply to the government for your journalistic license.

00:18:12.560 Here it's called the QCJO, Qualified Canadian Journalism Organization.

00:18:17.980 It won't surprise you, Alan, that when we applied for this number,

00:18:20.560 we were rejected.

00:18:21.360 We appealed.

00:18:22.100 We were rejected again.

00:18:23.880 So we are appealing to the federal court

00:18:26.340 because the government is deciding who's a journalist and who isn't.

00:18:31.900 And by the way, it's impossible to draft a rule on who a journalist is

00:18:35.780 that keeps out Rebel News but doesn't kick out other left-wing media.

00:18:40.600 You know, we're 100% Canadian-owned.

00:18:42.640 We do general interest news.

00:18:44.040 We're not controlled by any lobby group or anything.

00:18:46.500 How do you block Rebel but keep the CBC or the Toronto Star?

00:18:51.480 There's no way you can do it

00:18:53.420 other than having partisan appointees make the decision.

00:18:58.460 So we'll see what the federal court says.

00:19:00.020 My point is, in Canada, it's a government process.

00:19:02.380 In the U.S., who would give out that license number?

00:19:06.760 Would that be a government decision there, too?

00:19:08.620 Because that doesn't sound constitutional.

00:19:10.600 That wouldn't be a government decision,

00:19:13.820 although non-profits are included in the bill.

00:19:17.340 So if the government grants you non-profit status

00:19:19.360 as a journalistic entity in the bill,

00:19:25.440 that allows you to reap the rewards

00:19:27.420 to get those unreveney payouts.

00:19:29.340 Maybe I'm getting too technical here,

00:19:31.200 but I know the Daily Caller is a great conservative news site.

00:19:34.640 In fact, Tucker Carlson used to be from there.

00:19:36.520 They have the, quote, for-profit side,

00:19:38.700 and then they have their foundation side.

00:19:40.740 Maybe there's some technical way around it.

00:19:42.540 And I know I'm getting too deep into the weeds

00:19:44.360 because that's not what's important.

00:19:45.200 Yeah, so it's international standards.

00:19:48.500 It's an international standard serial number,

00:19:50.860 an ISSSN, and really, you either need that

00:19:54.420 or you need to be owned by a qualifying 503C non-profit.

00:20:00.600 Or if you're a broadcaster,

00:20:02.180 you need to be an eligible broadcaster

00:20:03.800 with a license issued by the FCC.

00:20:06.200 So if you're just, you know, making videos online,

00:20:08.340 if you're streaming news to Rumble or something,

00:20:10.760 you don't have that FCC license,

00:20:12.480 then you're not going to be included in the bill.

00:20:14.560 This is for the legacy media.

00:20:15.460 This is for the big guys.

00:20:16.560 This is for the legacy media.

00:20:17.920 Got it.

00:20:18.320 Sorry to go so technical there.

00:20:19.640 It's just I'm quite interested in this

00:20:20.780 because we are,

00:20:21.760 we've been in this technical legal battle

00:20:23.980 for two years in Canada.

00:20:25.720 And, you know, I'll send you, Alam,

00:20:27.020 some of our filings that we recently did.

00:20:28.760 I think, you know, we're in a lot of litigation up here.

00:20:31.320 We're always suing the bad guys

00:20:32.460 and being sued by the bad guys.

00:20:33.940 We do a lot of litigation.

00:20:35.280 But I say that our battle over this journalism license

00:20:39.160 is perhaps the most important fight of our lives

00:20:42.480 because if Trudeau is able to keep within his power

00:20:46.640 who is or isn't a journalist

00:20:48.180 and then things flow from that,

00:20:51.080 these people are boosted.

00:20:52.540 These people are throttled.

00:20:54.180 These people are subsidized.

00:20:55.760 These people are penalized.

00:20:57.300 A lot turns on whether or not

00:20:59.080 you're a licensed journalist in Canada.

00:21:01.440 And I've heard this law in Canada

00:21:03.720 called the ban the rebel.

00:21:06.420 Like I've heard it called the rebel news law

00:21:08.040 by two external journalists who see it so obviously.

00:21:11.160 Anyhow, Alam, I didn't mean to talk so much

00:21:13.440 about rebel news and the journalism license here.

00:21:15.600 Let's get back to your report.

00:21:16.820 But I just, it's so eerie what you're talking about

00:21:19.600 because that's awful Canada stuff

00:21:22.960 that it sounds like they want to inject into America.

00:21:25.920 And I've always looked up to America

00:21:27.240 as the First Amendment freedom place

00:21:29.840 that is more resistant to these censorship viruses

00:21:33.800 than Canada.

00:21:34.620 I sure hope this doesn't happen to you guys

00:21:36.700 because then we're all who.

00:21:37.940 Yeah, and it's more or less the same bill.

00:21:41.300 It has exactly the same purpose

00:21:42.480 as the news act in Canada.

00:21:47.700 And, you know, the rebel news is a great example

00:21:49.940 of how, you know, these laws are written

00:21:51.420 to exclude the independent media.

00:21:54.900 What infuriates me about these bills

00:21:59.280 is that the media industry has gone to legislate.

00:22:03.760 They've gone to lawmakers and they said,

00:22:05.000 well, journalism is in crisis, we need to rescue journalists.

00:22:08.580 But that's not actually true.

00:22:09.900 It's establishment legacy media companies

00:22:11.880 that are in a crisis because nobody trusts them

00:22:14.880 and there's so much more competition.

00:22:16.540 It's actually a great time to be a journalist

00:22:18.220 or to start a new media company.

00:22:21.540 I know Rebel News started

00:22:22.440 because the internet allowed that to happen.

00:22:24.940 The internet made it much more possible

00:22:26.080 to start a new media company

00:22:27.440 and compete with the legacy media.

00:22:30.080 You know, Breitbart was the same way.

00:22:31.540 And there are all sorts of independent journalists now

00:22:34.120 on Substack, on newsletter platforms,

00:22:37.080 on other social media platforms

00:22:38.880 who are just, you know, one or two man operations.

00:22:41.000 So it's actually, and they're still, you know,

00:22:42.760 earning revenue.

00:22:43.620 They're getting subscribers.

00:22:44.940 So, you know, journalism is not in crisis.

00:22:47.360 The legacy media is in crisis

00:22:48.820 and these bills are designed to rescue.

00:22:51.120 Yeah.

00:22:51.520 You know, in Canada,

00:22:52.940 one of our state-protected oligopolies called CTV,

00:22:59.160 which is the largest private broadcaster,

00:23:02.160 and they get enormous subsidies in straight-up cash,

00:23:05.180 but they also get regulatory protection.

00:23:07.900 I think they took $40 million last year,

00:23:10.980 so they'd have to confirm that number,

00:23:13.040 in government bailouts.

00:23:14.020 Well, this week they announced

00:23:15.220 they're laying off 4,800 people in their media division,

00:23:17.900 including shutting down basically most local newscasts

00:23:21.660 that are investigating.

00:23:22.400 Like, they took the cash, Alan,

00:23:24.780 and they fired the journalists anyway.

00:23:27.220 So the problem, I think, is deeper than,

00:23:30.620 and I don't think government cash fixes it.

00:23:33.300 In fact, I think it accelerates the problem

00:23:35.060 because who would trust a government broadcaster?

00:23:38.320 The CBC, which is larger in Canada

00:23:41.100 than all private media combined,

00:23:43.280 its viewership and listenership has fallen in half,

00:23:46.780 even though Canada's population is booming.

00:23:49.820 I don't know.

00:23:51.080 Do you think they're going to win?

00:23:53.240 Like, they keep on pumping up these fake news sites

00:23:57.140 that they call trustworthy,

00:23:58.560 and they keep throttling the alternatives,

00:24:00.540 like they're trying to throttle Twitter.

00:24:02.500 They haven't succeeded yet.

00:24:03.820 They're trying to throttle Rumble.

00:24:05.280 Maybe they're succeeding.

00:24:06.880 Are they going to win,

00:24:07.960 or is this just an endless cat-and-mouse game

00:24:09.780 between the censor and free-speechers

00:24:11.760 that it'll just be a perpetual battle?

00:24:14.160 Right now, it seems more like an endless cat-and-mouse game,

00:24:18.340 and you've got to give the Republicans

00:24:19.620 in the U.S. credit here

00:24:20.820 because they have put a lot of pressure

00:24:23.560 onto Silicon Valley companies

00:24:25.340 and onto the federal government,

00:24:26.680 which was encouraging censorship for a long time.

00:24:29.540 We did a lot of that original research

00:24:31.320 at the Foundation for Freedom Online

00:24:32.580 showing how government agencies,

00:24:35.040 especially after Biden took office,

00:24:37.180 used civil society organizations

00:24:40.200 to pressure social media companies

00:24:41.900 to adopt more censorship.

00:24:43.820 And that tide seems to have turned a little bit.

00:24:45.880 There's less interest in Silicon Valley.

00:24:48.140 There's less appetite for censorship there,

00:24:49.880 especially with Musk's takeover of X.

00:24:52.440 And the government, meanwhile,

00:24:54.140 has to deal with all these lawsuits

00:24:55.800 and congressional inquiries.

00:24:57.900 And, you know,

00:24:58.360 they were a bit more cautious

00:24:59.660 about engaging in the kind of aggressive

00:25:03.580 push for social media censorship

00:25:05.900 that they were undertaking during COVID.

00:25:08.240 You know, that being said,

00:25:10.880 the censorship industry is still vast.

00:25:12.480 They have a lot of resources.

00:25:13.400 They're going to continue to push for censorship,

00:25:15.200 especially in 2024.

00:25:18.400 But yeah, I think Cat and Mouse is about right.

00:25:21.100 I think there's sort of this tug of war now

00:25:22.900 between the censors

00:25:23.900 and between the opponents of censorship.

00:25:25.780 And I think that will go on for some time.

00:25:28.380 But the bottom line is, you know,

00:25:29.440 you can't force people to watch

00:25:31.700 legacy media channels

00:25:33.300 or to read legacy media newspapers.

00:25:35.620 And there's so much competition out there now.

00:25:38.020 And we have these bills

00:25:39.180 that are trying to protect

00:25:40.140 against that competition.

00:25:41.260 But ultimately,

00:25:42.480 I think that's not going to work

00:25:43.980 because you can't just,

00:25:45.040 you can't simply force people

00:25:46.200 to read what they don't want to read

00:25:47.400 or watch what they don't want to watch.

00:25:49.580 You know what?

00:25:50.180 I want to keep in touch with you on this stuff.

00:25:51.980 It's great to see you in your new capacity.

00:25:54.480 I apologize for talking too much

00:25:56.280 about Rebel News and our own battles with...

00:25:59.560 Oh, no, it's very, very important.

00:26:01.100 It's a great example of why the bills

00:26:03.120 are a bad idea.

00:26:04.840 Yeah, and I want to learn more

00:26:07.020 about how they're trying to do this

00:26:08.300 in a First Amendment jurisdiction

00:26:09.600 because they're doing it to us here in Canada.

00:26:11.720 And who knows?

00:26:12.840 Maybe in your position as managing director,

00:26:14.820 we can encourage you to write a little story

00:26:16.800 about the dark lessons,

00:26:19.620 the bad ideas laboratory that is Canada.

00:26:22.760 I sometimes tell my American friends

00:26:24.420 that we are like a time machine.

00:26:26.620 If you want to see your future five years from now,

00:26:29.020 come and take a look at us today

00:26:30.180 and be scared, be very scared.

00:26:34.140 And I think right now the world's in a bad place

00:26:36.080 because you have Justin Trudeau, Joe Biden,

00:26:39.960 Jacinda Ardern is kicked out of New Zealand,

00:26:42.860 but she's taken on this global censorship job.

00:26:46.280 You've got censors

00:26:48.320 or people censorship-friendly in Ireland, in France.

00:26:52.740 Like there really is no world leader

00:26:55.220 who's saying enough of this crap.

00:26:57.740 And that's what scares me

00:26:59.300 is that when there's no disruptor

00:27:01.900 like a Donald Trump

00:27:02.940 or maybe a Stephen Harper or whatever,

00:27:05.920 these things can sort of ooze into every country

00:27:09.520 and each country can follow

00:27:11.480 the bad example of the other.

00:27:13.240 And I think that's the place we're in right now.

00:27:15.140 There are a few hopeful places.

00:27:18.280 I mean, Javier Mille in Argentina,

00:27:21.260 but there's very few

00:27:23.100 and they're not at the center

00:27:24.120 of global decision-making.

00:27:25.700 Last word to you.

00:27:26.400 I'm sorry for talking so much about this,

00:27:28.020 but I guess it's close to my heart.

00:27:29.720 Go ahead, Alan, finish it.

00:27:31.520 Yeah, I mean, it's important to remember

00:27:33.180 that all of this started in 2016.

00:27:36.040 You know, there was a time

00:27:37.160 when the internet and social media companies

00:27:39.740 were not as censored as they are today.

00:27:42.680 And a big reason for that

00:27:44.480 is the same media

00:27:46.000 that's now asking to be rescued

00:27:47.520 by online competition.

00:27:49.540 They were the ones

00:27:50.200 who started whipping up these ad boycotts

00:27:52.240 against YouTube, against Facebook,

00:27:54.160 that really accelerated the pace of censorship.

00:27:57.320 So, you know,

00:27:58.240 the important thing

00:27:58.880 to remember about these builds

00:27:59.980 is that they're coming from

00:28:01.260 the same place

00:28:02.860 that motivates a lot of censorship,

00:28:04.520 which is primarily media companies

00:28:06.960 and their allies

00:28:07.980 trying to suppress their competition

00:28:10.900 on the one hand

00:28:11.720 and elevate themselves

00:28:12.880 by securing special favors

00:28:15.740 from Silicon Valley.

00:28:16.980 And that's what these builds are.

00:28:18.160 They sort of give legal basis

00:28:20.580 to Silicon Valley

00:28:22.000 bailing out the mainstream media,

00:28:23.520 whether they're popular or not.

00:28:26.080 Alan, I'm going to dig more deeply

00:28:27.800 into your organization.

00:28:29.360 I'm delighted you're there.

00:28:30.320 And I'd like to share your website

00:28:32.160 with our viewers.

00:28:33.660 It's foundationforfreedomonline.com.

00:28:37.800 We've gotten to know Alan over the years

00:28:39.440 with his work at breitbart.com,

00:28:40.700 and now he's doing it full time

00:28:42.300 at the foundationforfreedom.com.

00:28:44.260 And I have read this report

00:28:45.880 called Protection Racket,

00:28:47.180 why the censorship industry

00:28:48.340 needs to bail out the media.

00:28:50.240 And I'm sorry I didn't give Alan

00:28:51.540 more talk time.

00:28:52.500 I just had so many things

00:28:53.620 to say myself.

00:28:54.920 But I promise you, Alan,

00:28:56.620 if you're willing,

00:28:57.420 I'd love to have you back

00:28:58.460 on a regular basis

00:28:59.400 like we used to do

00:29:00.520 when you were at Breitbart,

00:29:02.060 because this is very important to us.

00:29:04.380 Not only do we talk about this

00:29:05.900 and do we care about this,

00:29:07.440 we're directly impacted by it,

00:29:09.660 and we're trying to make a difference,

00:29:10.940 too, by going to court.

00:29:12.700 And I will privately share with you

00:29:15.140 some of our legal pleadings,

00:29:16.620 what I think you'll find interesting.

00:29:18.320 So please take our best wishes

00:29:19.920 for good luck and much success,

00:29:22.280 and I look forward to continuing

00:29:23.300 our conversation in the months ahead.

00:29:25.760 Thanks, Essel.

00:29:26.520 Happy to come back.

00:29:27.720 Right on.

00:29:28.100 There you have it.

00:29:28.640 Alan Bocari, Freedom Fighter.

00:29:30.240 Stay with us.

00:29:31.060 More ahead.

00:29:31.460 I mean, he's like a puppy dog.

00:29:45.000 You know, he somehow has,

00:29:46.580 after having been fired

00:29:47.600 from so many outlets

00:29:49.840 in the United States,

00:29:51.320 he, I would not be surprised

00:29:53.360 if he emerges with a contract

00:29:55.540 with an outlet

00:29:56.400 because he is a useful idiot.

00:29:58.480 He says things that are not true.

00:29:59.980 He parrots Vladimir Putin's

00:30:02.140 pack of lies about Ukraine.

00:30:05.440 So I don't see why Putin

00:30:08.500 wouldn't give him an interview

00:30:09.460 because through him,

00:30:11.200 he can, you know,

00:30:12.680 continue to lie

00:30:13.600 about what his, you know,

00:30:15.300 objectives are in Ukraine

00:30:16.820 and, you know,

00:30:18.680 what he expects to see happen.

00:30:20.660 It's really quite sad

00:30:22.260 that not just somebody

00:30:23.660 like Tucker Carlson,

00:30:25.440 who has, as I said,

00:30:27.600 had been fired so many times

00:30:29.000 because he seems unable

00:30:30.080 to, you know,

00:30:32.020 correlate his reporting

00:30:34.160 with the truth,

00:30:35.140 but also because

00:30:37.560 it's a sign

00:30:39.440 that there are people

00:30:40.560 in this country right now

00:30:41.860 who are like a fifth column

00:30:44.420 for Vladimir Putin.

00:30:45.560 And why?

00:30:46.080 I don't know.

00:30:47.200 I mean,

00:30:47.620 why are certain Republicans

00:30:49.800 throwing their lot in?

00:30:51.420 Why are, you know,

00:30:52.540 other Americans

00:30:53.400 basically believing Putin?

00:30:56.380 Why did Trump believe Putin

00:30:58.560 more than our 11

00:30:59.860 intelligence agencies?

00:31:01.220 I don't know.

00:31:01.780 Do you have a working theory?

00:31:03.120 I do have a working theory.

00:31:07.020 There's a lot in there, actually.

00:31:09.320 Let me just take a second there.

00:31:11.540 And I'm just going to take her

00:31:12.840 at face value for a minute.

00:31:15.740 I mean, put aside the fact

00:31:16.620 that she's basically

00:31:17.520 against the interview.

00:31:19.760 Actually, that's sort of

00:31:20.400 the essence of what she said.

00:31:21.600 She said one of the main reasons

00:31:23.640 was that Putin lies.

00:31:26.360 So you shouldn't interview

00:31:27.960 a man who lies.

00:31:31.640 I'm sorry,

00:31:32.480 but I think every politician lies.

00:31:35.140 And occasionally,

00:31:36.720 I think almost every person lies.

00:31:40.480 Now, hopefully most of us

00:31:41.500 don't lie as a matter of course.

00:31:43.040 And most of us don't deal

00:31:44.300 with momentous things

00:31:45.300 that require massive, dark lies.

00:31:49.780 But I recall Winston Churchill

00:31:51.520 himself said the truth

00:31:53.240 needs a bodyguard of lies.

00:31:56.360 The truth is so precious

00:31:58.040 it needs a bodyguard of lies.

00:32:00.440 He was talking about

00:32:01.360 what life is like in wartime.

00:32:03.960 You might recall

00:32:04.780 that Churchill had body doubles

00:32:06.780 because deceiving the enemy

00:32:08.600 about where he was

00:32:09.460 was important

00:32:10.060 because, of course,

00:32:10.980 there were German spies

00:32:11.620 trying to kill him.

00:32:12.300 So in wartime,

00:32:16.020 do you doubt that both sides

00:32:17.560 engaged in lies?

00:32:18.600 And I'm not here

00:32:19.560 to beat up NATO,

00:32:20.480 but there were so many

00:32:21.780 pro-Ukraine lies.

00:32:23.620 The ghost of Kiev,

00:32:25.100 some mysterious fighter pilot

00:32:26.920 who was shooting down

00:32:27.700 all the Russian planes.

00:32:28.940 Or Snake Island,

00:32:30.660 where a handful of Ukrainian soldiers

00:32:34.020 held off the entire Russian army.

00:32:35.680 There were all these

00:32:36.140 little propaganda lies.

00:32:37.400 Welcome to wartime.

00:32:42.800 You know,

00:32:43.740 war is fought by many means.

00:32:45.880 A lot of it is kinetic,

00:32:47.420 but a lot of it is propaganda.

00:32:49.620 During the Second World War,

00:32:51.380 there was Axis Sally

00:32:52.840 and Tokyo Rose,

00:32:54.240 who were English-language radio hosts

00:32:56.160 in Germany and Japan,

00:32:58.180 saying demoralizing things

00:32:59.660 to the Western troops.

00:33:00.740 And, of course,

00:33:02.260 the Allies would drop leaflets

00:33:04.020 on the bad guys

00:33:05.140 trying to convince them

00:33:06.680 to surrender.

00:33:07.360 Welcome to wartime.

00:33:09.180 But if we don't interview politicians

00:33:11.900 because we think

00:33:13.080 they're going to lie,

00:33:14.140 so he hadn't even lied yet,

00:33:15.400 and I'm not sure what...

00:33:16.320 There was one thing

00:33:17.400 Putin said last night

00:33:18.180 that might be a lie,

00:33:19.000 and I'm going to talk about it

00:33:19.660 in a minute.

00:33:21.580 But even if he is a liar,

00:33:23.240 shouldn't we hear the lies?

00:33:25.300 And maybe we'll expose the lies?

00:33:27.060 Or maybe...

00:33:27.860 Maybe they're not actually lies.

00:33:29.220 Maybe they're just falsehoods

00:33:30.480 that Putin believes.

00:33:32.080 Or maybe, just maybe,

00:33:33.500 there are certain things

00:33:34.620 he says that we don't like,

00:33:36.500 but may be true.

00:33:38.520 And, for example,

00:33:39.280 his history about Ukraine

00:33:41.580 and its historical authenticity

00:33:47.020 and its historical place,

00:33:49.120 maybe it's wrong.

00:33:50.860 But I don't think Putin's lying.

00:33:52.760 He may just have

00:33:53.740 an antagonistic belief.

00:34:00.080 But if we were to take

00:34:01.200 Hillary Clinton's advice,

00:34:02.240 we could not interview people

00:34:04.580 who engaged in lies,

00:34:06.780 I don't think you would have

00:34:08.040 a lot of interviews

00:34:08.700 with world leaders.

00:34:09.840 One last question,

00:34:10.860 and that's about someone

00:34:12.220 who's very famous

00:34:12.900 in the United States,

00:34:13.480 probably not here,

00:34:15.660 Evan Gershkiewicz,

00:34:16.500 who's the Wall Street Journal

00:34:17.560 reporter.

00:34:18.340 He's 32,

00:34:19.960 and he's been in prison

00:34:21.280 for almost a year.

00:34:22.740 This is a huge story

00:34:23.780 in the United States,

00:34:24.540 and I just want to ask you

00:34:25.440 directly,

00:34:26.680 without getting into

00:34:27.580 the details of it

00:34:28.260 or your version

00:34:28.840 of what happened,

00:34:29.540 if as a sign of your decency

00:34:31.620 you would be willing

00:34:33.060 to release him to us

00:34:35.120 and we'll bring him back

00:34:35.880 to the United States.

00:34:36.740 We have done so many gestures

00:34:51.660 of what good will

00:34:52.780 out of decency

00:34:54.080 that I think

00:34:54.860 we have run out of them.

00:34:58.200 We have never seen

00:34:59.600 anyone reciprocate to us

00:35:01.320 in a similar manner.

00:35:02.360 However,

00:35:05.200 in theory,

00:35:05.900 we can say

00:35:06.480 that we do not rule out

00:35:07.800 that we can do that

00:35:08.800 if our partners

00:35:11.960 take reciprocal steps.

00:35:16.180 When I talk about

00:35:17.200 the partners,

00:35:18.040 I, first of all,

00:35:19.220 refer to special services.

00:35:22.780 Special services

00:35:23.760 are in contact

00:35:24.820 with one another,

00:35:26.120 they are talking

00:35:26.780 about the matter

00:35:27.500 in question.

00:35:28.140 There is no taboo

00:35:32.160 to settle this issue.

00:35:34.060 We are willing

00:35:34.560 to solve it.

00:35:37.080 But there are

00:35:37.580 certain terms

00:35:38.360 being discussed

00:35:39.240 via special services

00:35:40.820 channels.

00:35:43.860 I believe

00:35:44.500 an agreement

00:35:44.980 can be reached.

00:35:47.480 So,

00:35:48.120 typically,

00:35:48.420 I mean,

00:35:48.640 this stuff has happened

00:35:49.340 for, obviously,

00:35:50.480 centuries.

00:35:51.420 One country

00:35:52.200 catches another spy

00:35:53.140 within its borders,

00:35:53.920 it trades it

00:35:54.460 for one of its own

00:35:55.700 intel guys

00:35:56.360 in another country.

00:35:57.140 I think what makes,

00:35:58.600 and it's not my business,

00:36:00.400 but what makes

00:36:00.920 this difference

00:36:01.340 is the guy's

00:36:01.720 obviously not a spy.

00:36:02.700 He's a kid.

00:36:03.740 And maybe he was

00:36:04.500 breaking your law

00:36:05.300 in some way,

00:36:05.860 but he's not a super spy

00:36:06.920 and everybody knows that

00:36:07.920 and he's being held

00:36:08.640 hostage in exchange,

00:36:09.960 which is true.

00:36:10.640 With respect,

00:36:11.380 it's true

00:36:11.640 and everyone knows

00:36:12.120 it's true.

00:36:13.000 So,

00:36:13.520 maybe he's

00:36:14.340 in a different category.

00:36:16.120 Maybe it's not fair

00:36:17.120 to ask

00:36:17.760 for, you know,

00:36:19.100 somebody else

00:36:19.700 in exchange

00:36:20.140 for letting him out.

00:36:20.920 Maybe it degrades

00:36:21.560 Russia to do that.

00:36:24.260 You know,

00:36:24.700 you can give

00:36:31.460 different interpretations

00:36:32.700 to what constitutes

00:36:33.940 a spy,

00:36:34.640 but there are

00:36:35.840 certain things

00:36:36.600 provided by law.

00:36:38.480 If a person

00:36:39.040 gets secret information

00:36:40.500 and does that

00:36:41.540 in a conspiratorial manner,

00:36:43.540 then this is

00:36:44.360 qualified as

00:36:45.380 espionage.

00:36:47.160 And that is

00:36:47.620 exactly what he was doing.

00:36:49.560 He was receiving

00:36:50.680 classified,

00:36:51.720 confidential information,

00:36:52.960 and he did it

00:36:54.560 covertly.

00:36:56.220 Maybe he did that

00:36:57.220 out of carelessness

00:36:58.220 or his own initiative.

00:37:01.300 Considering the sheer fact,

00:37:02.980 this is qualified

00:37:03.820 as espionage.

00:37:05.500 The fact has been proven

00:37:06.960 as he was caught

00:37:08.460 red-handed

00:37:09.060 when he was receiving

00:37:10.160 this information.

00:37:11.880 If it had been

00:37:12.660 some far-fetched excuse,

00:37:14.640 some fabrication,

00:37:15.940 something not proven,

00:37:17.420 it would have been

00:37:18.260 different story then.

00:37:19.500 But he was caught

00:37:20.920 red-handed

00:37:21.400 when he was

00:37:22.240 secretly getting

00:37:23.620 confidential information.

00:37:25.600 What is it then?

00:37:26.900 But are you suggesting

00:37:27.800 that he was working

00:37:28.400 for the U.S. government

00:37:29.280 or NATO,

00:37:30.200 or he was just

00:37:30.980 a reporter

00:37:31.520 who was given

00:37:32.340 material he wasn't

00:37:33.800 supposed to have?

00:37:34.400 Those seem like

00:37:34.860 very different,

00:37:36.260 very different things.

00:37:37.380 I don't know

00:37:42.120 who he was working

00:37:46.800 for.

00:37:47.960 But I would like

00:37:48.680 to reiterate

00:37:49.460 that getting

00:37:50.280 classified information

00:37:51.840 in secret

00:37:53.280 is called espionage.

00:37:56.600 And he was working

00:37:57.540 for the U.S.

00:37:58.420 special services,

00:38:00.280 some other agencies.

00:38:01.400 I don't think

00:38:04.440 he was working

00:38:05.180 for Monaco,

00:38:06.460 as Monaco

00:38:07.220 is hardly interested

00:38:08.380 in getting

00:38:08.920 that information.

00:38:10.540 It is up to

00:38:11.520 special services

00:38:12.440 to come to an agreement.

00:38:15.100 Some groundwork

00:38:15.960 has been laid.

00:38:17.540 There are people

00:38:18.160 who, in our view,

00:38:19.460 are not connected

00:38:20.200 with special services.

00:38:22.820 Let me tell you

00:38:23.800 a story about

00:38:24.500 a person serving

00:38:25.740 a...

00:38:26.000 Anyways, it goes on.

00:38:27.280 Do you see how long

00:38:27.960 he's going on about this?

00:38:29.580 I think it was

00:38:30.480 the longest...

00:38:31.120 And that's not

00:38:32.100 even the full clip.

00:38:32.900 That was just

00:38:33.240 a little clip

00:38:33.620 we found online.

00:38:34.960 Tucker Carlson

00:38:35.600 is like a dog

00:38:36.100 with a bone.

00:38:37.980 And I actually think

00:38:39.120 that Putin's going

00:38:39.660 to give that 32 years...

00:38:41.540 And by the way,

00:38:42.100 32 years old

00:38:42.800 is not a kid.

00:38:46.340 And journalists

00:38:47.040 often are spies

00:38:48.200 because they have access

00:38:51.420 and because asking questions

00:38:53.120 is their job

00:38:53.760 and getting tips

00:38:54.360 is their job.

00:38:55.200 I don't know

00:38:55.720 if this guy's a spy.

00:38:56.520 How would I know?

00:38:57.660 But it's notable

00:38:58.900 that Tucker Carlson

00:39:00.500 was so energetic

00:39:02.100 about it.

00:39:03.720 And I'm sure

00:39:04.960 that that kid's...

00:39:06.060 That kid...

00:39:06.820 That man's family

00:39:07.720 is grateful to him

00:39:08.540 and if he's released

00:39:09.260 he'll be grateful to him.

00:39:12.160 And I put it to you

00:39:13.840 that probably most

00:39:16.020 corporate media reporters

00:39:17.820 wouldn't ask

00:39:18.520 that question of Putin.

00:39:19.900 And if they did

00:39:20.780 they certainly

00:39:21.280 wouldn't come back

00:39:22.660 at it again

00:39:23.220 and again and again.

00:39:24.840 The way...

00:39:25.880 In fact,

00:39:26.420 that could have gone on

00:39:27.740 for five more minutes

00:39:29.020 but that was just

00:39:30.220 a short extract

00:39:30.900 so we'll wrap that up there.

00:39:34.900 But again,

00:39:35.700 Putin answers

00:39:36.460 in different ways

00:39:37.260 doesn't he?

00:39:37.840 I don't think

00:39:39.420 that Putin

00:39:39.800 would ever answer

00:39:40.720 a question

00:39:41.380 based on

00:39:43.200 feeling pressure

00:39:45.600 from a reporter

00:39:46.400 because I just don't think

00:39:47.820 in Putin's world

00:39:49.100 reporters are

00:39:50.540 centers of power.

00:39:51.680 He's not worried

00:39:54.600 about what the front page

00:39:55.940 of Izvestia

00:39:57.800 is going to say tomorrow

00:39:59.400 in the same way

00:40:00.020 that Trudeau might be worried

00:40:00.900 about what the front page

00:40:01.600 of the Globe and Mail

00:40:02.080 is going to say tomorrow.

00:40:03.160 So I just don't think

00:40:04.260 that Putin responds

00:40:05.220 in the same way

00:40:06.000 and I don't know

00:40:08.460 I thought he probably

00:40:09.100 thought that was boring

00:40:09.920 and playful.

00:40:11.300 There's one more thing

00:40:12.260 that Putin said

00:40:13.020 that I just don't know

00:40:16.580 if it's true

00:40:17.140 and it may be

00:40:19.020 a lie.

00:40:21.680 because it's just

00:40:23.080 so unlikely

00:40:24.500 but maybe it's unlikely

00:40:26.580 because we've just

00:40:27.160 never heard it before.

00:40:30.240 It's

00:40:30.800 when Putin

00:40:32.420 claimed

00:40:33.280 that there was

00:40:34.280 I mean everyone knows

00:40:35.500 there was a negotiation

00:40:36.540 a peace negotiation

00:40:37.780 very early in the war

00:40:40.320 a year and a half ago

00:40:42.080 I think it was happening

00:40:43.400 in Istanbul, Turkey

00:40:44.760 and they had

00:40:46.560 a tentative agreement

00:40:47.560 that Vladimir Zelensky

00:40:50.500 himself

00:40:51.060 had tentatively agreed to

00:40:53.780 and there's sort of

00:40:55.780 two parts to the story

00:40:56.800 that are incredible

00:40:57.340 the first part is actually

00:40:58.360 sort of already known

00:40:59.920 it's that Russia

00:41:01.980 and Zelensky

00:41:02.960 had more or less

00:41:04.680 agreed

00:41:05.180 they were going to have

00:41:07.980 peace after six months

00:41:09.120 not after two years

00:41:10.080 a peace that would have

00:41:12.380 saved

00:41:12.980 hundreds of thousands

00:41:15.060 of lives

00:41:15.540 but Boris Johnson

00:41:18.240 the former

00:41:19.120 prime minister

00:41:19.760 of the UK

00:41:20.400 he wasn't even

00:41:21.020 in PM

00:41:21.420 at that time

00:41:22.060 was dispatched

00:41:23.120 on behalf of NATO

00:41:24.100 in America

00:41:24.660 to scupper the deal

00:41:26.640 to tell Zelensky

00:41:27.540 don't you dare sign it

00:41:28.560 do you have that part

00:41:29.360 of the clip?

00:41:31.180 okay let's take a look

00:41:32.140 yeah I think so

00:41:35.120 let's take a look

00:41:35.660 was they who started

00:41:38.480 the war in 2014

00:41:39.820 our goal

00:41:41.820 is to stop this war

00:41:43.000 and we did not start

00:41:45.060 this war in 2022

00:41:46.260 this is an attempt

00:41:48.340 to stop it

00:41:49.200 do you think you've

00:41:50.340 stopped it now?

00:41:53.720 I mean have you

00:41:54.180 achieved your aims?

00:41:58.800 no we haven't

00:42:00.380 achieved our aims yet

00:42:01.520 because one of them

00:42:03.540 is the Nazification

00:42:04.900 this means the prohibition

00:42:07.280 of all kinds

00:42:08.400 of neo-Nazi movements

00:42:09.760 this is one of the problems

00:42:11.820 that we discussed

00:42:12.740 during the negotiation process

00:42:14.560 which ended in Istanbul

00:42:16.640 early this year

00:42:17.640 and it was not

00:42:24.480 our initiative

00:42:25.340 because we were told

00:42:26.660 by the Europeans

00:42:27.600 in particular

00:42:28.520 that it was necessary

00:42:30.020 to create conditions

00:42:31.140 for the final signing

00:42:32.560 of the documents

00:42:33.520 my counterparts

00:42:35.440 in France

00:42:36.200 and Germany

00:42:36.740 said

00:42:37.200 how can you imagine

00:42:41.460 them signing a treaty

00:42:42.680 with a gun

00:42:43.580 to their heads

00:42:45.040 the troops

00:42:46.160 should be pulled back

00:42:47.120 from Kiev

00:42:47.780 I said

00:42:48.800 all right

00:42:49.340 we withdrew

00:42:50.500 the troops

00:42:50.940 from Kiev

00:42:51.480 as soon as we pulled

00:42:55.240 back our troops

00:42:56.140 from Kiev

00:42:56.820 our Ukrainian negotiators

00:42:58.800 immediately threw

00:42:59.920 all our agreements

00:43:01.140 reached in Istanbul

00:43:02.020 into the bend

00:43:02.980 and got prepared

00:43:06.520 for a long-standing

00:43:07.720 armed confrontation

00:43:08.860 with the help

00:43:09.660 with the help

00:43:09.680 of the United States

00:43:10.800 and its satellites

00:43:11.640 in Europe

00:43:12.240 that is how

00:43:15.540 the situation

00:43:16.240 has developed

00:43:16.920 and that is how

00:43:18.560 it looks now

00:43:19.420 all right

00:43:21.220 that was the second part

00:43:22.240 Olivia

00:43:22.620 I just sent you

00:43:23.320 the clip

00:43:23.760 of the first part

00:43:25.600 that I think

00:43:27.120 is an astonishing thing

00:43:28.480 that I've never heard before

00:43:29.420 did you hear what he said

00:43:30.320 that they were negotiating

00:43:31.620 a peace deal

00:43:32.220 in Istanbul

00:43:32.880 and western leaders

00:43:35.640 I think he said

00:43:36.280 France and Germany

00:43:37.060 said how can you have

00:43:38.600 Zelensky negotiate

00:43:39.640 with a gun at his head

00:43:41.140 pull back from the capital

00:43:42.320 Kiev

00:43:42.860 and he

00:43:43.940 and Putin claims

00:43:45.160 he pulled back

00:43:46.180 to allow Zelensky

00:43:48.600 to sign the deal

00:43:49.560 and that's when

00:43:51.400 the west said

00:43:52.120 ha ha

00:43:52.440 we're going to continue

00:43:53.140 to fight

00:43:53.580 I've never heard

00:43:55.680 that before

00:43:56.320 I've only heard

00:43:57.680 the western point of view

00:43:59.300 which is that

00:44:00.480 no

00:44:00.760 the

00:44:01.160 Ukrainian armed forces

00:44:03.440 with funding

00:44:04.980 and materials

00:44:05.600 from NATO

00:44:06.180 drove the Russians back

00:44:07.800 not that they

00:44:08.320 deliberately withdrew

00:44:09.740 I find it

00:44:12.820 implausible

00:44:13.980 but maybe it is

00:44:15.120 the truth

00:44:15.640 or maybe it's a lie

00:44:17.500 a lie that Putin says

00:44:19.400 to keep

00:44:20.740 domestic

00:44:22.200 Russian support

00:44:23.580 because if Russia

00:44:24.260 was losing

00:44:25.160 a war

00:44:26.060 that would look

00:44:27.140 terrible

00:44:27.720 a dictator's power

00:44:28.940 or authoritarian's power

00:44:30.080 is self-reinforcing

00:44:32.280 self-fulfilling

00:44:33.180 as long as the dictator

00:44:34.920 looks and sounds powerful

00:44:36.260 he will be powerful

00:44:37.700 but the moment

00:44:38.300 he looks vulnerable

00:44:39.040 and weak

00:44:39.480 it'll all come imploding

00:44:40.740 so maybe that's a lie

00:44:41.720 but I have to say

00:44:43.200 even if it's only

00:44:44.220 one percent chance

00:44:45.160 it's true

00:44:45.800 that's a heck of a

00:44:47.560 heck of a counter

00:44:48.560 narrative isn't it

00:44:49.780 but I just sent

00:44:50.880 Olivia

00:44:51.460 another clip

00:44:52.520 that I haven't listened to

00:44:53.460 because I'm on the show

00:44:54.140 but I

00:44:54.480 I saw the description

00:44:55.780 that Istanbul meeting

00:44:58.340 that they're talking about

00:44:59.460 that Putin allegedly

00:45:00.200 pulled his tanks back

00:45:01.220 to give Zelensky

00:45:02.120 breathing room

00:45:02.640 to sign it

00:45:03.140 we've heard from

00:45:04.700 other people

00:45:05.200 we've heard from

00:45:05.760 the Israeli

00:45:06.380 government

00:45:07.380 who was there

00:45:07.920 saying yeah

00:45:08.340 we basically had a deal

00:45:09.460 we heard from

00:45:09.900 other leaders

00:45:10.520 who were in the room

00:45:11.280 and here's Putin

00:45:12.400 describing how

00:45:13.740 they essentially

00:45:14.280 had a peace deal

00:45:15.400 a year and a half ago

00:45:16.240 but the West

00:45:17.020 scuppered it

00:45:17.440 take a look

00:45:17.880 we support this

00:45:20.340 so I just want to make

00:45:21.840 sure I'm not

00:45:22.320 misunderstanding

00:45:22.720 what you're saying

00:45:23.380 I don't think that I am

00:45:24.080 I think you're saying

00:45:24.820 you want a negotiated

00:45:26.300 settlement

00:45:26.780 to what's happening

00:45:28.020 in Ukraine

00:45:28.500 right

00:45:33.440 and we made it

00:45:36.280 we prepared

00:45:37.200 the huge document

00:45:38.300 in Istanbul

00:45:39.080 that was

00:45:40.240 initialed

00:45:41.120 by the head

00:45:41.740 of the Ukrainian delegation

00:45:43.080 he affixed his signature

00:45:45.020 to some of the provisions

00:45:46.400 not to all of it

00:45:47.720 he put his signature

00:45:49.360 and then he himself said

00:45:51.320 we were ready to sign it

00:45:53.660 and the war would have been

00:45:54.860 over long ago

00:45:56.060 18 months ago

00:45:57.420 however

00:45:58.220 Prime Minister Johnson

00:45:59.660 came

00:46:00.140 talked us out of it

00:46:01.380 and we missed that chance

00:46:02.900 we support this

00:46:05.440 so I just want to make sure

00:46:07.100 you know

00:46:10.320 I think that's incredible

00:46:11.500 we're learning about

00:46:13.700 the war

00:46:14.260 we're learning about

00:46:15.880 Putin's openness

00:46:17.860 to a diplomatic resolution

00:46:21.480 and that Hillary Clinton

00:46:22.560 says it's a pack of lies

00:46:23.840 and I suppose

00:46:25.780 if someone knows lies

00:46:27.740 she's a connoisseur of lies

00:46:29.100 she's an impresario of lies

00:46:31.040 she's the master

00:46:31.980 and mistress of lies

00:46:33.240 she would know

00:46:36.260 or maybe

00:46:37.440 she

00:46:38.660 just doesn't want to hear

00:46:40.940 Vladimir Putin's point of view

00:46:42.240 I don't know

00:46:43.540 but

00:46:44.960 I do know

00:46:45.900 that

00:46:47.080 for a course of two hours

00:46:51.360 Vladimir Putin

00:46:52.360 talked on a range

00:46:53.600 of subjects

00:46:54.360 with a depth

00:46:55.520 and detail

00:46:56.520 that I think

00:46:58.300 few foreign leaders

00:46:59.140 could match

00:46:59.720 and that doesn't mean

00:47:00.580 he's a good person

00:47:01.360 but what it means

00:47:02.780 is that Russia

00:47:03.440 is led by a powerful

00:47:05.700 leader

00:47:06.340 who understands

00:47:07.360 his country

00:47:07.920 and is focused

00:47:08.620 on his country's

00:47:09.440 national goals

00:47:10.700 can you say the same

00:47:12.060 about the leaders

00:47:12.700 in the West

00:47:13.120 can you say the same

00:47:13.760 about Rishi Sunak

00:47:15.280 in the UK

00:47:15.840 can you say the same

00:47:17.960 about Justin Trudeau

00:47:18.860 here

00:47:19.260 one of the things

00:47:20.920 that the anti-Putin propaganda

00:47:23.160 has led us to believe

00:47:24.260 over the last two years

00:47:25.200 for example

00:47:26.180 one

00:47:26.420 just one detail

00:47:27.220 is that Putin

00:47:28.560 was physically

00:47:29.420 very frail

00:47:30.660 and dying

00:47:31.400 we saw different theories

00:47:33.080 of

00:47:33.360 he was

00:47:34.320 had this disease

00:47:35.120 or that disease

00:47:35.900 could be

00:47:37.360 I mean

00:47:37.780 not all diseases

00:47:39.820 are visible

00:47:40.940 to the eye

00:47:41.600 but he certainly

00:47:44.180 looked attentive

00:47:45.060 he looked

00:47:46.740 engrossed

00:47:48.500 he looked physically

00:47:49.740 comfortable

00:47:50.260 he didn't look

00:47:50.860 like he was in pain

00:47:51.740 or something

00:47:52.340 he didn't look

00:47:53.400 like he was on

00:47:54.240 meds

00:47:55.400 as Biden

00:47:56.600 sometimes does

00:47:57.520 and according

00:47:59.040 to Tucker

00:47:59.500 I mean we saw

00:48:00.040 the video

00:48:00.420 it was Tucker

00:48:01.000 who wrapped up

00:48:01.660 the interview

00:48:02.060 after two hours

00:48:02.920 it seems like

00:48:04.040 Putin could have

00:48:04.560 gone on

00:48:05.100 I just don't know

00:48:07.400 if there's a leader

00:48:08.160 in the West

00:48:09.580 who could hold

00:48:10.800 his own

00:48:11.520 in a

00:48:12.520 unscripted

00:48:14.260 wide-ranging

00:48:15.940 content-rich

00:48:17.480 challenging

00:48:19.640 conversation

00:48:21.740 in the same way

00:48:22.840 they talked about

00:48:24.400 AI

00:48:24.720 they talked about

00:48:26.020 genetics

00:48:26.580 they talked about

00:48:27.780 Elon Musk

00:48:28.580 they talked about

00:48:29.660 the BRICS group

00:48:30.920 that's the China-led

00:48:32.460 alternative

00:48:33.340 economic arrangement

00:48:34.660 they talked about

00:48:35.460 sanctions

00:48:36.860 they talked about

00:48:37.900 well for example

00:48:39.460 they talked about

00:48:40.180 Russia

00:48:40.640 becoming

00:48:41.460 the

00:48:42.400 largest economy

00:48:45.000 in Russia

00:48:45.400 last year

00:48:46.020 in Europe

00:48:46.760 last year

00:48:47.300 Russia was the first

00:48:48.700 economy in Europe

00:48:49.660 last year

00:48:50.300 despite all the

00:48:51.420 sanctions

00:48:51.760 and restrictions

00:48:52.460 is it normal

00:48:54.360 from your point of view

00:48:55.520 sanctions

00:48:56.380 restrictions

00:48:57.220 impossibility

00:48:58.760 of payments

00:48:59.420 in dollars

00:49:00.020 being cut off

00:49:01.360 from swift services

00:49:02.540 sanctions

00:49:03.480 against our ships

00:49:04.660 carrying oil

00:49:05.520 sanctions

00:49:06.640 against airplanes

00:49:07.780 sanctions

00:49:08.880 in everything

00:49:09.700 everywhere

00:49:10.680 the largest number

00:49:15.080 of sanctions

00:49:15.660 in the world

00:49:16.420 which are applied

00:49:17.260 are applied

00:49:18.060 against Russia

00:49:18.780 and we have become

00:49:20.500 Europe's first economy

00:49:21.940 during this time

00:49:23.040 it's the largest economy

00:49:27.480 and I was shocked

00:49:28.260 to hear that news

00:49:28.980 a year ago

00:49:29.360 and I checked it out

00:49:29.960 indeed it's true

00:49:30.640 on a purchasing power

00:49:32.400 parity basis

00:49:33.380 and what does that mean

00:49:34.140 how much you can buy

00:49:35.620 like the actual

00:49:36.780 value of the economy

00:49:38.700 Russia exceeded Germany

00:49:41.340 in my mind

00:49:42.180 Germany was always

00:49:42.880 this industrial powerhouse

00:49:44.100 but it's a combination

00:49:45.080 of Germany

00:49:45.840 sort of

00:49:46.420 undoing itself

00:49:47.880 with its green energy schemes

00:49:49.260 and Russia

00:49:50.440 making other arrangements

00:49:54.060 I mean

00:49:54.600 would you have guessed

00:49:56.300 that Russia

00:49:57.520 would pull ahead

00:49:58.260 of Germany

00:49:58.780 in this sanctions

00:49:59.760 environment

00:50:00.320 I certainly wouldn't have

00:50:01.660 I want to play a clip

00:50:04.380 I just sent you

00:50:05.560 an 8 minute long clip

00:50:06.900 Olivia

00:50:07.540 we're not going to play

00:50:08.180 all 8 minutes of it

00:50:09.020 but what I found

00:50:10.100 interesting about

00:50:10.900 the conversation

00:50:11.640 have you heard

00:50:12.160 of the BRICS

00:50:12.740 I think it stands

00:50:13.540 for Brazil

00:50:14.200 Russia

00:50:14.680 India

00:50:15.440 China

00:50:16.200 or something

00:50:16.940 it's basically

00:50:19.200 the alternative

00:50:19.800 to the G7

00:50:20.620 you know what the G7 are

00:50:21.960 right

00:50:22.200 it's

00:50:23.280 the G7

00:50:26.040 is

00:50:27.060 Canada

00:50:27.900 the United States

00:50:28.460 France

00:50:28.840 Britain

00:50:29.180 Germany

00:50:29.640 Japan

00:50:30.360 and

00:50:31.640 I left one out

00:50:34.280 I can't remember

00:50:36.000 and it used to be

00:50:37.800 the G8

00:50:38.320 with Russia in it

00:50:39.240 but then they sort of

00:50:39.800 kicked Russia out

00:50:40.940 so the G7

00:50:42.180 was sort of

00:50:42.580 the leading

00:50:43.020 world's

00:50:44.580 industrial democracies

00:50:45.720 I don't know

00:50:46.100 how Canada got in there

00:50:47.180 because I'm not sure

00:50:47.760 if we really are

00:50:48.900 but this

00:50:50.680 is a China-led

00:50:52.220 alternative

00:50:52.940 to the G7

00:50:54.600 it's

00:50:55.280 challenging

00:50:55.960 yeah there you go

00:50:57.080 that's the G7

00:50:58.220 so you can see

00:51:00.040 Japan

00:51:00.560 okay that's BRICS

00:51:01.680 actually

00:51:02.100 thanks

00:51:02.440 I was confused

00:51:03.080 for a second

00:51:03.580 yeah there's

00:51:04.920 the Indian flag

00:51:05.640 sorry I'm looking

00:51:06.540 at the other screen

00:51:07.300 there

00:51:07.540 so BRICS

00:51:08.460 is an attempt

00:51:09.720 by other countries

00:51:10.400 to say you know

00:51:10.840 we don't have to be

00:51:11.400 in an American-led

00:51:12.300 world

00:51:13.000 we don't have to

00:51:13.620 have a US dollar-led

00:51:14.980 world

00:51:15.720 and play the clip

00:51:18.500 that I just sent you

00:51:19.380 just for a few minutes

00:51:21.280 because Putin

00:51:22.600 is dropping

00:51:23.260 statistics

00:51:24.200 and arguments

00:51:25.120 and facts

00:51:26.020 as he goes

00:51:27.500 no notes

00:51:28.400 and it's not about

00:51:30.900 the war in Ukraine

00:51:31.520 he's just talking

00:51:32.420 about the changing

00:51:33.260 center of gravity

00:51:34.040 in the world

00:51:34.580 go ahead and play

00:51:35.720 a bit of this

00:51:36.580 the question is

00:51:38.440 what comes next

00:51:39.640 and maybe you trade

00:51:41.020 one colonial power

00:51:41.920 for another much less

00:51:43.380 sentimental

00:51:44.500 and forgiving

00:51:45.120 colonial power

00:51:45.980 I mean

00:51:46.180 are

00:51:46.420 is the BRICS

00:51:47.980 for example

00:51:48.520 in danger

00:51:49.960 of being completely

00:51:50.800 dominated by the Chinese

00:51:52.020 the Chinese economy

00:51:52.820 in a way that's not

00:51:55.260 good for their sovereignty

00:51:56.260 do you worry about that

00:51:58.880 we have heard

00:52:04.200 those boogeyman stories

00:52:05.400 before

00:52:05.860 it is a boogeyman story

00:52:08.460 we're neighbors with China

00:52:10.620 you cannot choose neighbors

00:52:12.560 just as you cannot choose

00:52:13.980 close relatives

00:52:15.060 we share a border

00:52:17.100 of thousand kilometers

00:52:18.320 with them

00:52:18.980 this is number one

00:52:21.120 second

00:52:22.000 we have a centuries long

00:52:24.100 history of coexistence

00:52:25.680 we're used to it

00:52:27.200 third

00:52:28.240 China's foreign policy

00:52:29.940 philosophy

00:52:30.580 is not aggressive

00:52:31.500 its idea

00:52:32.880 is to always look

00:52:33.940 for compromise

00:52:34.620 and we can see that

00:52:36.100 the next point is as follows

00:52:39.860 we are always told

00:52:41.820 the same boogeyman story

00:52:43.560 and here it goes again

00:52:45.820 through an euphemistic form

00:52:48.000 but it is still

00:52:48.900 the same boogeyman story

00:52:50.440 the cooperation

00:52:51.760 with China

00:52:52.660 keeps increasing

00:52:53.560 the pace

00:52:54.540 at which China's cooperation

00:52:56.100 with Europe

00:52:56.720 is growing

00:52:57.320 is higher

00:52:58.420 and greater

00:52:58.940 than

00:52:59.320 that of the growth

00:53:01.040 of Chinese-Russian cooperation

00:53:02.780 ask Europeans

00:53:04.860 aren't they afraid

00:53:05.940 they might be

00:53:07.400 I don't know

00:53:08.060 but they are still

00:53:09.700 trying to access

00:53:10.600 China's market

00:53:11.440 at all costs

00:53:12.560 especially now

00:53:13.960 that they are facing

00:53:15.060 economic problems

00:53:17.000 Chinese businesses

00:53:18.900 are also exploring

00:53:20.160 the European market

00:53:21.220 do Chinese businesses

00:53:24.060 have small presence

00:53:25.000 in the United States

00:53:26.160 yes

00:53:27.440 the political decisions

00:53:28.600 are such

00:53:29.260 that they are trying

00:53:30.120 to limit their cooperation

00:53:31.500 with China

00:53:32.100 it is to your own detriment

00:53:35.020 Mr. Tucker

00:53:35.740 that you are limiting

00:53:36.840 cooperation with China

00:53:38.160 you are hurting yourself

00:53:39.740 it is a delicate matter

00:53:42.300 and there are no silver bullet solutions

00:53:44.740 just as it is

00:53:46.100 with the dollar

00:53:46.720 so before introducing

00:53:50.600 any illegitimate sanctions

00:53:52.640 illegitimate in terms

00:53:54.440 of the Charter

00:53:55.140 of the United Nations

00:53:56.320 one should think

00:53:58.840 very carefully

00:53:59.740 for decision makers

00:54:01.560 this appears

00:54:02.520 to be a problem

00:54:03.360 so you said

00:54:06.700 a moment ago

00:54:07.200 that the world

00:54:07.900 would be a lot better

00:54:08.980 if it weren't broken

00:54:09.880 into competing alliances

00:54:11.500 if there was cooperation

00:54:12.680 globally

00:54:13.620 one of the reasons

00:54:16.260 you don't have that

00:54:17.180 is because

00:54:17.840 the current

00:54:18.380 American administration

00:54:19.520 is dead set

00:54:20.520 against you

00:54:21.460 do you think

00:54:22.280 if there were

00:54:22.740 a new administration

00:54:23.660 after Joe Biden

00:54:24.880 that you would

00:54:25.640 be able to reestablish

00:54:27.340 communication

00:54:27.920 with the US government

00:54:29.260 or does it not matter

00:54:30.120 who the president is

00:54:31.040 I will tell you

00:54:39.340 but let me finish

00:54:41.020 the previous thought

00:54:42.200 we together

00:54:43.640 with my colleague

00:54:44.480 and friend

00:54:45.160 President Xi Jinping

00:54:46.620 set a goal

00:54:48.200 to reach

00:54:48.700 200 billion dollars

00:54:50.240 of mutual trade

00:54:51.260 with China

00:54:51.860 this year

00:54:52.480 we have exceeded

00:54:54.260 this level

00:54:54.880 according to our figures

00:54:56.700 our bilateral trade

00:54:58.480 with China

00:54:59.060 totals already

00:55:00.440 230 billion

00:55:01.880 and the Chinese statistics

00:55:03.500 says

00:55:04.080 it is

00:55:04.840 240 billion dollars

00:55:06.740 one more important thing

00:55:09.160 our trade is well balanced

00:55:10.960 mutually complementary

00:55:12.540 in high tech

00:55:13.940 energy

00:55:14.680 scientific research

00:55:16.020 and development

00:55:16.720 it is very balanced

00:55:18.660 as for BRICS

00:55:21.440 where Russia

00:55:22.400 took over

00:55:22.900 the presidency

00:55:23.580 this year

00:55:24.220 the BRICS countries

00:55:25.760 are by and large

00:55:27.520 developing very rapidly

00:55:28.860 look

00:55:30.960 if memory serves me right

00:55:33.000 back in 1992

00:55:34.760 the share of the G7 countries

00:55:37.400 in the world economy

00:55:38.740 amounted to

00:55:40.080 47%

00:55:41.560 whereas in 2022

00:55:43.640 it was down to

00:55:45.340 I think

00:55:46.160 a little over 30%

00:55:47.820 the BRICS countries

00:55:52.820 accounted for

00:55:53.600 only 16%

00:55:54.840 in 1992

00:55:55.860 but now

00:55:57.360 their share

00:55:58.000 is greater

00:55:58.560 than that

00:55:59.160 of the G7

00:56:00.000 it has nothing

00:56:01.560 to do

00:56:02.000 with the events

00:56:02.560 in Ukraine

00:56:03.140 this is due

00:56:04.240 to the trends

00:56:04.980 of global development

00:56:06.020 and world economy

00:56:07.500 as I mentioned

00:56:08.360 just now

00:56:08.940 and this is

00:56:10.320 inevitable

00:56:10.780 this will keep

00:56:12.540 happening

00:56:13.080 it is like

00:56:14.340 the rise of the sun

00:56:15.400 you cannot

00:56:16.860 prevent the sun

00:56:17.680 from rising

00:56:18.260 you have to adapt

00:56:19.580 to it

00:56:20.460 how do the United States

00:56:22.400 adapt

00:56:22.740 with the help of force

00:56:24.720 sanctions

00:56:25.580 pressure

00:56:26.420 bombings

00:56:27.340 and use of armed forces

00:56:29.300 this is about

00:56:32.420 self-conceit

00:56:33.340 your political establishment

00:56:35.120 does not understand

00:56:36.260 that the world

00:56:36.960 is changing

00:56:37.780 under objective circumstances

00:56:39.800 and in order

00:56:41.140 to preserve

00:56:41.800 your level

00:56:42.360 even if someone

00:56:43.560 aspires

00:56:44.360 pardon me

00:56:45.160 to the level

00:56:46.020 of dominance

00:56:46.940 you have to make

00:56:48.220 the right decisions

00:56:49.100 in a competent

00:56:50.140 and timely manner

00:56:51.400 such brutal actions

00:56:53.940 including

00:56:54.420 with regard to Russia

00:56:55.640 and say

00:56:56.760 other countries

00:56:57.600 are counterproductive

00:56:58.980 this is an obvious fact

00:57:01.620 it has already

00:57:02.860 become evident

00:57:03.740 you just asked me

00:57:08.640 if another leader

00:57:09.480 comes and changes

00:57:10.400 something

00:57:10.940 it is not about

00:57:12.900 the leader

00:57:13.360 it is not about

00:57:14.540 the personality

00:57:15.240 of a particular person

00:57:16.820 I had a very good

00:57:18.900 relationship

00:57:19.520 with say Bush

00:57:20.960 I know that

00:57:22.320 in the United States

00:57:23.360 he was portrayed

00:57:25.320 as some kind

00:57:26.060 of a country boy

00:57:26.880 who does not

00:57:27.880 understand much

00:57:28.820 I assure you

00:57:31.040 that this is not

00:57:32.120 the case

00:57:32.640 I think he made

00:57:33.880 a lot of mistakes

00:57:34.720 with regard to Russia

00:57:35.760 too

00:57:36.160 I told you

00:57:37.960 about 2008

00:57:38.880 and the decision

00:57:39.900 in Bucharest

00:57:40.820 to open the NATO's

00:57:42.300 doors to for Ukraine

00:57:43.720 and so on

00:57:44.460 that happened

00:57:46.100 during his presidency

00:57:47.180 he actually exercised

00:57:49.240 pressure on the Europeans

00:57:50.600 but in general

00:57:52.560 on a personal

00:57:53.440 human level

00:57:54.260 I had a very good

00:57:55.620 relationship with him

00:57:56.660 he was no worse

00:57:58.380 than any other

00:57:59.300 American or Russian

00:58:00.640 or European politician

00:58:02.100 I assure you

00:58:04.040 he understood

00:58:04.800 what he was doing

00:58:05.840 as well as others

00:58:06.960 I had such

00:58:08.900 personal relationship

00:58:10.060 with Trump as well

00:58:12.000 it is not about

00:58:15.240 the personality

00:58:15.800 of the leader

00:58:16.600 it is about

00:58:17.500 the elite's mindset

00:58:18.760 if the idea

00:58:22.320 of domination

00:58:23.020 at any cost

00:58:24.140 based also

00:58:25.040 on forceful actions

00:58:26.440 dominates

00:58:27.460 the American society

00:58:28.600 nothing will change

00:58:30.300 it will only

00:58:31.620 get worse

00:58:32.320 but if

00:58:34.760 in the end

00:58:35.580 one comes to

00:58:36.400 the awareness

00:58:36.920 that the world

00:58:37.780 has been changing

00:58:38.820 due to the

00:58:39.660 objective circumstances

00:58:40.960 and that

00:58:42.160 one should be able

00:58:43.320 to adapt to them

00:58:44.300 in time

00:58:44.960 using the advantages

00:58:46.720 that the US

00:58:47.440 still has today

00:58:48.660 then perhaps

00:58:50.040 something may change

00:58:51.220 it's a long clip

00:58:52.600 but I'm glad

00:58:53.760 to have shown it to you

00:58:54.520 there were so many

00:58:55.040 things in there

00:58:55.680 now I want to start

00:58:57.200 by saying

00:58:57.860 something that I feel

00:58:59.020 just watching this

00:59:00.000 which is

00:59:00.880 boy he talks

00:59:01.640 differently

00:59:02.160 than our politicians

00:59:03.700 do

00:59:04.100 and there's a lot

00:59:04.900 of reasons for that

00:59:05.580 obviously he has

00:59:06.380 his own personality

00:59:07.140 but he's Russian

00:59:08.380 and they don't have

00:59:09.740 a vigorous

00:59:10.460 press scrum style

00:59:12.520 they don't have

00:59:13.240 in fact

00:59:13.760 I think

00:59:14.820 his very first answer

00:59:16.380 to Tucker

00:59:17.380 was something like

00:59:19.140 is this a talk show

00:59:20.080 or something

00:59:20.960 as opposed to

00:59:21.680 Putin was obviously

00:59:22.900 ready for a deep

00:59:23.880 discussion

00:59:24.500 and he would

00:59:26.320 have kept going

00:59:27.000 it was Tucker

00:59:27.580 who said

00:59:27.860 okay two hours

00:59:28.880 and seven minutes

00:59:29.580 is enough for me

00:59:30.320 so I think

00:59:33.280 the western ear

00:59:34.440 the short attention

00:59:35.800 span mindset

00:59:36.920 the tick tock

00:59:38.280 generation

00:59:38.820 is not interested

00:59:40.320 in eight minute

00:59:41.480 answers talking

00:59:42.620 about the growth

00:59:43.500 rate of

00:59:44.020 the BRICS

00:59:45.900 economy

00:59:46.580 versus the shrinking

00:59:47.540 of the G7

00:59:48.380 economy

00:59:48.840 is a proportion

00:59:49.560 of

00:59:49.780 but

00:59:50.660 but I think

00:59:52.760 maybe that's

00:59:53.520 a western

00:59:54.340 conceit

00:59:54.840 because we have

00:59:55.280 short attention

00:59:55.820 spans

00:59:56.220 we have

00:59:56.520 entertainment

00:59:57.060 style politics

00:59:57.960 and we're

00:59:58.720 America centric

00:59:59.620 and I say

01:00:00.300 we Canada

01:00:00.980 and the United

01:00:01.480 States

01:00:01.800 we're sort of

01:00:02.280 twins

01:00:02.640 but in Europe

01:00:03.860 and I saw this

01:00:05.260 when I went to

01:00:05.740 Hungary

01:00:06.140 and I saw the

01:00:07.060 speech that

01:00:07.640 Victor Orban

01:00:08.500 gave

01:00:08.880 and China

01:00:10.960 they talk about

01:00:12.340 China

01:00:12.820 in Hungary

01:00:13.820 as much as

01:00:14.380 they talk about

01:00:14.860 America

01:00:15.320 and

01:00:16.680 and they're

01:00:17.520 closer to

01:00:18.580 China

01:00:18.900 and they're

01:00:19.380 closer to

01:00:20.020 Russia

01:00:20.320 and that's

01:00:21.500 the rest

01:00:22.200 of the world

01:00:22.600 not all the rest

01:00:23.640 of the world

01:00:24.020 thinks LA

01:00:25.340 New York

01:00:26.000 Washington

01:00:26.540 other parts

01:00:27.860 of the world

01:00:28.220 think Shanghai

01:00:29.440 Beijing

01:00:30.140 Tokyo

01:00:30.940 New Delhi

01:00:31.860 Bombay

01:00:32.620 but when

01:00:33.620 Tucker Carlson

01:00:34.260 said when

01:00:34.720 was the last

01:00:35.140 time you

01:00:35.500 talked to

01:00:35.840 Biden

01:00:36.100 his first

01:00:37.260 answer was

01:00:37.640 I don't

01:00:37.880 know exactly

01:00:38.500 and Tucker

01:00:39.700 Carlson laughed

01:00:40.600 out loud

01:00:40.880 if you can

01:00:41.220 find that

01:00:41.580 exact moment

01:00:42.160 please do

01:00:42.600 Olivia

01:00:42.920 Tucker Carlson

01:00:43.880 laughed out

01:00:44.400 loud and

01:00:44.760 Putin sort

01:00:45.220 of said

01:00:45.560 you know

01:00:47.240 I've got a

01:00:47.700 lot of

01:00:48.000 things

01:00:48.360 a lot of

01:00:49.000 domestic

01:00:49.360 things I

01:00:49.840 worry about

01:00:50.440 and I

01:00:51.060 don't

01:00:51.280 I think

01:00:51.820 Putin was

01:00:52.620 just sort

01:00:52.960 of

01:00:53.160 it was his

01:00:54.140 reaction to

01:00:54.860 Tucker Carlson

01:00:55.620 being absolutely

01:00:56.700 stunned that

01:00:57.380 Vladimir Putin

01:00:58.040 couldn't remember

01:00:58.640 the exact

01:00:59.400 moment he

01:00:59.840 last talked

01:01:00.320 to Biden

01:01:01.160 and Putin

01:01:01.800 was his

01:01:02.520 I think it

01:01:03.160 was a genuine

01:01:03.660 response

01:01:04.200 because it

01:01:04.720 was so

01:01:05.020 reflexive

01:01:05.620 it was

01:01:06.020 yeah I

01:01:07.480 got a lot

01:01:07.860 of busy

01:01:08.200 things I'm

01:01:08.700 worried about

01:01:09.160 you know

01:01:09.480 I happen

01:01:10.060 to run

01:01:10.420 one of the

01:01:11.220 largest

01:01:11.460 countries

01:01:11.780 the largest

01:01:12.720 country

01:01:13.020 in the

01:01:13.180 world

01:01:13.300 geographically

01:01:14.040 a country

01:01:15.880 that has

01:01:16.400 lots of

01:01:16.880 different

01:01:17.180 languages

01:01:17.600 ethnicities

01:01:18.300 religions

01:01:18.800 lots of

01:01:19.800 different

01:01:20.040 borders

01:01:20.500 military

01:01:21.200 issues

01:01:21.820 yeah

01:01:23.740 you know

01:01:24.580 waiting for

01:01:25.220 Joe Biden

01:01:25.780 to call

01:01:26.180 is not

01:01:26.540 exactly

01:01:27.020 you know

01:01:27.680 I'm not

01:01:28.220 thinking about

01:01:29.680 them when I

01:01:30.280 go to bed

01:01:30.720 and thinking

01:01:31.080 about them

01:01:31.380 when I wake

01:01:31.980 up in the

01:01:32.380 morning

01:01:32.620 but there

01:01:33.180 was a good

01:01:33.480 question and

01:01:34.040 answer exchange

01:01:34.700 there wasn't

01:01:35.240 and it had

01:01:35.600 nothing to do

01:01:36.280 with Ukraine

01:01:37.420 so I mean

01:01:37.840 when Hillary

01:01:38.660 Clinton and

01:01:39.160 other Westerners

01:01:39.880 said don't

01:01:40.420 listen to the

01:01:40.940 war propagandists

01:01:41.820 don't listen to

01:01:42.420 the killer

01:01:42.860 don't listen to

01:01:44.360 the illegal

01:01:45.360 invader

01:01:45.900 I understand

01:01:46.980 what they're

01:01:47.400 saying they're

01:01:47.820 saying he's

01:01:48.460 the enemy

01:01:48.960 don't give

01:01:50.260 him a platform

01:01:50.980 but does that

01:01:51.840 mean we can't

01:01:52.380 hear what he

01:01:52.740 has to say

01:01:53.220 about the

01:01:53.840 rising place

01:01:54.640 of China

01:01:55.140 and the

01:01:55.740 BRICS

01:01:56.020 countries

01:01:56.520 and how

01:01:57.220 that's

01:01:57.520 inevitable

01:01:58.000 does that

01:02:00.260 mean that his

01:02:00.780 comments about

01:02:01.280 that are a

01:02:01.760 lie

01:02:02.000 do you think

01:02:02.860 he was lying

01:02:03.380 about China

01:02:04.000 Russia trade

01:02:04.640 I thought it

01:02:05.200 was a very

01:02:05.500 interesting answer

01:02:06.600 that he said

01:02:07.660 don't tell me

01:02:08.700 about China

01:02:10.260 trade

01:02:10.620 Europe is more

01:02:11.580 hungry for the

01:02:12.280 Chinese market

01:02:12.760 than even we

01:02:13.460 are

01:02:13.640 I don't know

01:02:13.860 if you caught

01:02:14.140 that part

01:02:14.620 I thought

01:02:16.580 it was

01:02:17.520 interesting to

01:02:18.040 hear his

01:02:18.240 reflections

01:02:18.660 on talking

01:02:19.440 to different

01:02:20.820 politicians

01:02:21.400 he was

01:02:22.580 friendly

01:02:22.960 with George

01:02:23.740 W. Bush

01:02:24.180 I believe

01:02:24.500 he would

01:02:24.800 he didn't

01:02:26.100 mention

01:02:26.500 Hillary

01:02:26.820 Clinton

01:02:27.180 which is

01:02:28.580 interesting

01:02:30.280 to me

01:02:30.600 because Hillary

01:02:31.160 Clinton is

01:02:31.600 so hostile

01:02:32.160 to Putin

01:02:32.520 but he

01:02:32.740 didn't even

01:02:33.080 mention her

01:02:33.580 he said

01:02:35.140 he got

01:02:35.380 along well

01:02:35.820 enough with

01:02:36.220 Trump

01:02:36.520 which I

01:02:37.300 think he

01:02:37.640 did

01:02:37.800 even though

01:02:38.780 you know

01:02:40.820 Trump

01:02:41.140 was a large

01:02:42.560 force for

01:02:43.120 increasing

01:02:43.840 NATO

01:02:44.260 spending

01:02:44.960 but I

01:02:45.780 think he

01:02:46.040 was on to

01:02:46.480 something

01:02:46.720 where he

01:02:47.040 said you

01:02:47.320 can change

01:02:47.880 the leader

01:02:48.360 at the

01:02:48.640 top

01:02:48.960 but what

01:02:49.640 about the

01:02:49.980 elite's

01:02:50.520 mindset

01:02:50.980 and it's

01:02:52.620 true

01:02:52.960 that

01:02:53.720 the

01:02:55.400 I'd even

01:02:57.020 say Russophobia

01:02:58.040 and I'm

01:02:58.500 not a

01:02:58.840 Russophile

01:02:59.360 I'll never

01:03:00.500 set foot

01:03:00.940 in Russia

01:03:01.280 I'm afraid

01:03:02.420 that I

01:03:02.800 would be

01:03:03.080 politically

01:03:03.460 targeted

01:03:03.940 for my

01:03:04.540 criticisms

01:03:04.980 of Vladimir

01:03:05.460 Putin

01:03:05.780 and Gazprom

01:03:06.460 I don't

01:03:07.920 like the

01:03:08.220 authoritarian

01:03:08.580 regime

01:03:09.080 there

01:03:09.200 I think

01:03:09.400 it's

01:03:09.540 obviously

01:03:09.760 less

01:03:10.040 totalitarian

01:03:10.920 than it

01:03:11.620 was under

01:03:11.980 Soviet

01:03:12.340 times

01:03:12.760 but you

01:03:14.060 got a

01:03:14.320 former

01:03:14.500 KGBH

01:03:15.160 and his

01:03:15.400 president

01:03:15.740 now

01:03:16.000 it's

01:03:16.180 not a

01:03:16.520 gentle

01:03:16.780 place

01:03:17.260 if you

01:03:17.880 have

01:03:18.080 political

01:03:18.460 views

01:03:18.920 that said

01:03:22.280 I think

01:03:22.680 hearing

01:03:23.440 from him

01:03:24.020 and understanding

01:03:24.900 him

01:03:25.280 is useful

01:03:27.120 and of course

01:03:27.800 he's skilled

01:03:28.820 in propaganda

01:03:29.700 of course

01:03:30.180 he is

01:03:30.760 on the other

01:03:31.740 hand

01:03:31.940 he's

01:03:32.460 not as

01:03:33.280 as

01:03:35.380 comfortable

01:03:36.300 and

01:03:36.880 routinely

01:03:37.800 chatting

01:03:38.360 with journalists

01:03:39.040 it's not

01:03:39.900 as large

01:03:40.380 I mean

01:03:40.740 think about

01:03:41.180 how much

01:03:41.560 time

01:03:42.020 our

01:03:42.820 politicians

01:03:43.340 spend

01:03:43.740 in a

01:03:44.060 day

01:03:44.480 dealing

01:03:46.220 with

01:03:46.440 the

01:03:46.600 media

01:03:46.920 they

01:03:47.540 have

01:03:47.740 press

01:03:48.260 releases

01:03:48.640 every

01:03:49.040 day

01:03:49.380 they

01:03:49.820 have

01:03:49.980 press

01:03:50.240 conferences

01:03:50.740 for

01:03:51.000 those

01:03:51.200 press

01:03:51.460 releases

01:03:51.860 the

01:03:52.520 one hour

01:03:53.020 of question

01:03:53.520 period

01:03:53.840 doesn't

01:03:54.220 actually

01:03:54.820 get

01:03:55.480 any

01:03:55.720 answers

01:03:56.260 it's

01:03:56.780 just

01:03:57.080 a

01:03:57.660 showtime

01:03:58.260 for

01:03:58.480 the

01:03:58.620 media

01:03:58.920 I

01:03:59.740 put

01:04:00.020 it

01:04:00.140 to

01:04:00.280 you

01:04:00.560 that

01:04:01.040 at

01:04:01.200 least

01:04:01.440 50%

01:04:02.260 of

01:04:02.840 the

01:04:03.020 day

01:04:03.460 for

01:04:04.040 a

01:04:04.620 Canadian

01:04:04.960 politician

01:04:05.500 is

01:04:05.960 how

01:04:06.660 to

01:04:06.860 get

01:04:07.160 media

01:04:07.680 and

01:04:08.600 how

01:04:08.780 to

01:04:08.940 control

01:04:09.400 media

01:04:09.800 coverage

01:04:10.260 of what

01:04:10.620 a

01:04:10.740 politician

01:04:11.040 does

01:04:11.480 and

01:04:12.040 then

01:04:12.160 I'd

01:04:12.340 say

01:04:12.480 a

01:04:12.620 quarter

01:04:12.920 of

01:04:13.100 the

01:04:13.200 rest

01:04:13.400 of

01:04:13.540 the

01:04:13.620 time

01:04:13.940 is

01:04:14.720 thinking

01:04:14.980 about

01:04:15.220 their

01:04:15.380 re-election

01:04:15.980 dealing

01:04:17.460 with

01:04:17.660 constituents

01:04:18.380 fundraising

01:04:19.600 I'd

01:04:21.200 say

01:04:21.360 at

01:04:21.520 most

01:04:21.980 only

01:04:22.300 a

01:04:22.500 quarter

01:04:22.800 of

01:04:22.960 the

01:04:23.060 time

01:04:23.440 of

01:04:23.960 a

01:04:24.100 politician

01:04:24.540 in

01:04:24.740 the

01:04:24.840 West

01:04:25.020 is

01:04:25.160 actually

01:04:25.400 focused

01:04:25.780 on

01:04:26.080 governing

01:04:26.840 let

01:04:27.620 alone

01:04:28.000 thinking

01:04:29.060 planning

01:04:30.340 believing

01:04:32.080 and

01:04:34.360 I'm

01:04:34.480 not

01:04:34.660 saying

01:04:35.100 that

01:04:35.660 it's

01:04:36.760 better

01:04:37.060 to

01:04:37.320 have

01:04:37.480 a

01:04:37.620 politician

01:04:37.960 who

01:04:38.180 doesn't

01:04:38.420 have

01:04:38.560 the

01:04:38.700 worries

01:04:38.960 of

01:04:39.120 the

01:04:39.320 media

01:04:39.940 and

01:04:40.420 democracy

01:04:41.360 because

01:04:42.080 although

01:04:42.460 those

01:04:42.780 exercises

01:04:43.420 are

01:04:44.120 shallow

01:04:44.600 they

01:04:44.960 actually

01:04:45.560 are

01:04:45.840 accountability

01:04:46.340 exercises

01:04:47.180 we need

01:04:48.180 a free

01:04:48.860 press

01:04:49.200 to scrutinize

01:04:49.920 we need

01:04:50.300 elections

01:04:50.840 we need

01:04:51.540 the checks

01:04:51.900 and balances

01:04:52.400 but Putin

01:04:53.320 doesn't have

01:04:53.820 any of those

01:04:54.360 things

01:04:54.700 he doesn't

01:04:55.180 stand up

01:04:55.840 in the

01:04:56.440 Duma

01:04:56.700 and answer

01:04:58.120 tough

01:04:58.360 questions

01:04:58.860 he doesn't

01:04:59.820 have to

01:05:01.340 go

01:05:01.600 I mean

01:05:01.920 there are

01:05:02.620 elections

01:05:03.060 there but

01:05:03.420 I think

01:05:03.680 they're

01:05:03.860 pretty much

01:05:04.340 controlled

01:05:05.500 it's not

01:05:07.520 a good

01:05:07.760 thing

01:05:08.080 for Russia

01:05:08.680 that they

01:05:09.040 don't have

01:05:09.340 the democratic

01:05:09.780 checks

01:05:10.100 and balances

01:05:10.460 but on

01:05:10.800 the other

01:05:11.100 hand

01:05:11.540 it obviously

01:05:12.600 frees their

01:05:13.300 president

01:05:13.760 to do a lot

01:05:15.200 more thinking

01:05:15.900 and doing

01:05:17.140 and to think

01:05:18.680 more deeply

01:05:19.260 than any

01:05:19.940 politician

01:05:20.360 in the west

01:05:20.900 does

01:05:21.300 there aren't

01:05:23.580 too many more

01:05:24.100 clips I propose

01:05:25.120 to show

01:05:25.620 I mean it

01:05:26.380 really was a

01:05:27.260 two hour

01:05:28.400 marathon

01:05:29.120 there were

01:05:30.140 there were

01:05:30.460 some funny

01:05:30.900 moments

01:05:31.320 I don't know

01:05:32.400 if you can

01:05:32.700 find it

01:05:33.140 what clip

01:05:34.000 do you have

01:05:34.340 on standby

01:05:34.820 there

01:05:35.120 oh this

01:05:36.820 is the

01:05:37.100 exact

01:05:37.400 point

01:05:37.760 about

01:05:38.100 when was

01:05:39.240 the last

01:05:39.540 time

01:05:39.840 you talked

01:05:40.340 to Biden

01:05:40.780 let's just

01:05:41.260 let's just

01:05:41.720 play this

01:05:42.080 because I

01:05:42.320 refer to it

01:05:42.800 a few times

01:05:43.120 take a look

01:05:43.700 you wouldn't

01:05:44.040 be speaking

01:05:44.520 to the

01:05:44.800 Ukrainian

01:05:45.060 president

01:05:45.440 you'd be

01:05:45.740 speaking

01:05:46.040 to the

01:05:46.700 American

01:05:47.000 president

01:05:47.520 when was

01:05:48.480 the last

01:05:48.820 time you

01:05:49.220 spoke

01:05:49.540 to Joe

01:05:50.040 Biden

01:05:50.340 I cannot

01:05:51.980 remember

01:05:52.500 when I

01:05:52.880 talked

01:05:53.120 to him

01:05:53.480 I do

01:05:54.580 not

01:05:54.760 remember

01:05:55.180 we can

01:05:55.920 look it

01:05:56.240 up

01:05:56.500 you don't

01:05:57.120 remember

01:05:57.640 no

01:05:59.180 why

01:06:00.120 do I have

01:06:01.220 to remember

01:06:01.680 everything

01:06:02.320 I have my

01:06:03.320 own things

01:06:03.880 to do

01:06:04.280 we have

01:06:04.860 domestic

01:06:05.240 political

01:06:05.740 affairs

01:06:06.220 well he's

01:06:06.900 funding the

01:06:07.500 war that

01:06:07.900 you're

01:06:08.220 fighting

01:06:08.780 so I

01:06:09.180 would think

01:06:09.500 that would

01:06:09.780 be memorable

01:06:10.340 I'm definitely

01:06:11.660 interested but

01:06:12.240 from the

01:06:13.420 outside it

01:06:14.120 seems like

01:06:14.740 this could

01:06:15.260 devolve or

01:06:16.560 evolve into

01:06:17.260 something that

01:06:18.200 brings the

01:06:18.600 entire world

01:06:19.260 into conflict

01:06:19.980 and could

01:06:20.560 initiate

01:06:22.460 a nuclear

01:06:23.240 launch

01:06:23.640 and so

01:06:24.180 why don't

01:06:24.580 you just

01:06:24.840 call Biden

01:06:25.440 and say

01:06:26.540 let's work

01:06:27.340 this out

01:06:27.920 what's there

01:06:33.620 to work

01:06:34.060 out

01:06:34.380 it's

01:06:34.960 very

01:06:35.200 simple

01:06:35.680 I

01:06:36.240 repeat

01:06:36.640 we have

01:06:39.240 contacts

01:06:39.800 through

01:06:40.080 various

01:06:40.560 agencies

01:06:41.240 I will

01:06:43.440 tell you

01:06:43.900 what we

01:06:44.320 are saying

01:06:44.880 on this

01:06:45.280 matter

01:06:45.580 and what

01:06:46.180 we are

01:06:46.500 conveying

01:06:47.040 to the

01:06:47.380 US

01:06:47.680 leadership

01:06:48.180 if you

01:06:49.560 really

01:06:49.960 want

01:06:50.280 to

01:06:50.440 stop

01:06:50.720 fighting

01:06:51.160 you

01:06:51.800 need

01:06:52.000 to

01:06:52.140 stop

01:06:52.420 supplying

01:06:52.880 weapons

01:06:53.480 it

01:06:54.260 will

01:06:54.460 be

01:06:54.660 over

01:06:55.120 within

01:06:55.520 a

01:06:55.700 few

01:06:55.880 weeks

01:06:56.300 that's

01:06:57.100 it

01:06:57.280 and

01:06:58.120 then

01:06:58.360 we can

01:06:58.720 agree

01:06:58.980 on

01:06:59.160 some

01:06:59.380 terms

01:06:59.880 before

01:07:00.680 you

01:07:00.940 do

01:07:01.120 that

01:07:01.500 stop

01:07:02.520 what's

01:07:03.940 easier

01:07:04.340 why

01:07:05.440 would

01:07:05.600 I

01:07:05.740 call

01:07:06.000 him

01:07:06.180 what

01:07:07.140 should

01:07:07.340 I

01:07:07.480 talk

01:07:07.760 to

01:07:07.900 him

01:07:08.060 about

01:07:08.420 or

01:07:08.840 beg

01:07:09.140 him

01:07:09.360 for

01:07:09.580 what

01:07:09.840 you're

01:07:14.500 going

01:07:14.840 to

01:07:15.060 deliver

01:07:15.400 such

01:07:15.760 and

01:07:15.940 such

01:07:16.140 weapons

01:07:16.540 to

01:07:16.740 Ukraine

01:07:17.220 oh

01:07:18.100 I'm

01:07:18.440 afraid

01:07:18.900 I'm

01:07:19.240 afraid

01:07:19.560 please

01:07:19.920 don't

01:07:20.420 what

01:07:21.680 is

01:07:21.840 there

01:07:22.020 to

01:07:22.200 talk

01:07:22.460 about

01:07:22.760 that's

01:07:25.560 a

01:07:25.680 very

01:07:25.880 powerful

01:07:26.380 exchange

01:07:27.020 and

01:07:28.760 I

01:07:28.880 think

01:07:29.120 it's

01:07:29.440 honest

01:07:29.800 by

01:07:29.980 the

01:07:30.040 way

01:07:30.140 I

01:07:30.240 don't

01:07:30.380 think

01:07:30.520 that's

01:07:30.780 a

01:07:30.900 lie

01:07:31.140 I

01:07:31.320 think

01:07:31.540 the

01:07:32.060 different

01:07:32.360 agencies

01:07:32.880 are

01:07:33.140 talking

01:07:33.420 to

01:07:33.620 each

01:07:33.780 other

01:07:33.940 of

01:07:34.100 course

01:07:34.280 they

01:07:34.460 are

01:07:34.720 even

01:07:36.140 during

01:07:36.420 the

01:07:36.580 depths

01:07:36.800 of

01:07:36.900 the

01:07:37.000 cold

01:07:37.160 war

01:07:37.320 that's

01:07:37.520 why

01:07:37.620 they

01:07:37.720 put

01:07:37.880 in

01:07:37.960 the

01:07:38.060 hot

01:07:38.260 phone

01:07:38.560 the

01:07:39.020 hot

01:07:39.220 line

01:07:39.520 but

01:07:41.280 he's

01:07:41.520 exactly

01:07:41.820 right

01:07:42.040 why

01:07:42.320 would

01:07:42.500 he

01:07:42.600 call

01:07:42.780 Joe

01:07:43.020 Biden

01:07:43.300 and

01:07:43.420 would

01:07:43.560 Joe

01:07:43.840 Biden

01:07:44.020 even

01:07:44.200 know

01:07:44.440 who

01:07:44.620 he

01:07:44.820 is

01:07:45.100 I

01:07:52.760 the

01:07:53.440 intellectual

01:07:54.580 focus

01:07:55.180 the

01:07:55.560 physical

01:07:56.120 comfort

01:07:56.580 the

01:07:56.780 physical

01:07:57.040 appearance

01:07:57.540 of

01:07:58.420 Vladimir

01:07:58.720 Putin

01:07:59.040 and

01:07:59.340 that's

01:07:59.700 relevant

01:08:00.000 because

01:08:00.420 like I

01:08:00.840 say

01:08:01.080 I've

01:08:02.100 read

01:08:02.280 reports

01:08:02.640 for years

01:08:03.060 that he's

01:08:03.480 on death's

01:08:04.240 door

01:08:04.420 he's

01:08:04.880 sick

01:08:05.140 he's

01:08:05.420 ailing

01:08:05.880 he has

01:08:06.960 a body

01:08:07.360 double

01:08:07.760 what I

01:08:08.480 saw

01:08:08.860 on

01:08:09.880 this

01:08:10.380 interview

01:08:10.640 was

01:08:10.880 Tucker

01:08:11.160 Carlson

01:08:11.700 trying

01:08:13.200 to keep

01:08:13.560 up

01:08:13.880 with

01:08:14.720 Putin

01:08:15.000 in

01:08:15.180 terms

01:08:15.400 of

01:08:15.540 energy

01:08:15.980 Putin

01:08:18.240 was

01:08:18.420 attentive

01:08:18.780 he didn't

01:08:19.180 forget

01:08:19.520 things

01:08:19.940 he was

01:08:20.460 quoting

01:08:20.760 statistics

01:08:21.400 they talked

01:08:22.460 about 20

01:08:22.880 subjects

01:08:23.400 could you

01:08:24.880 imagine

01:08:25.500 Vladimir

01:08:26.180 Putin

01:08:26.520 phoning

01:08:26.920 up

01:08:27.160 this

01:08:27.380 guy

01:08:27.680 Joe

01:08:28.500 Biden

01:08:28.820 and let

01:08:29.260 me

01:08:29.300 just give

01:08:29.520 you a little

01:08:29.720 bit of

01:08:29.880 background

01:08:30.160 so

01:08:30.520 Joe

01:08:31.260 Biden

01:08:31.620 there was

01:08:32.120 a special

01:08:32.480 prosecutor

01:08:33.020 a special

01:08:33.440 investigator

01:08:33.860 because

01:08:34.760 Biden

01:08:35.100 apparently

01:08:35.500 gave some

01:08:36.660 confidential

01:08:37.760 state

01:08:38.220 secrets

01:08:38.640 to his

01:08:39.040 biographer

01:08:39.720 and the

01:08:41.120 special

01:08:41.460 prosecutor

01:08:41.840 met with

01:08:42.240 Biden

01:08:42.500 several

01:08:42.820 times

01:08:43.140 about it

01:08:43.460 to see

01:08:43.780 if

01:08:43.960 a

01:08:44.420 prosecution

01:08:44.840 should

01:08:45.280 be

01:08:45.480 filed

01:08:45.980 and the

01:08:46.580 report

01:08:46.840 of the

01:08:47.060 special

01:08:47.280 prosecutor

01:08:47.740 was

01:08:48.160 no

01:08:49.260 including

01:08:50.740 for reasons

01:08:51.340 that he's

01:08:51.980 an old

01:08:52.500 man who

01:08:53.020 forgets

01:08:53.620 things

01:08:54.020 and he

01:08:54.720 lacks

01:08:55.040 the mental

01:08:55.760 element

01:08:56.400 to commit

01:08:57.080 a crime

01:08:57.700 because he's

01:08:59.780 cognitively

01:09:00.660 in decline

01:09:01.720 so the

01:09:02.460 special

01:09:02.860 prosecutor

01:09:03.400 said I've

01:09:03.780 spent a lot

01:09:04.140 of time

01:09:04.420 with Joe

01:09:04.680 Biden

01:09:04.980 we are

01:09:07.420 not likely

01:09:08.000 to convict

01:09:08.520 because a

01:09:09.000 jury will

01:09:09.400 see him

01:09:09.700 as a

01:09:09.940 kindly

01:09:10.340 old

01:09:10.820 forgetful

01:09:11.560 man

01:09:12.100 in fact

01:09:14.080 here's the

01:09:14.440 exact word

01:09:14.940 an elderly

01:09:15.480 man

01:09:15.960 with poor

01:09:16.820 memory

01:09:17.400 so they

01:09:21.460 trotted

01:09:21.880 out

01:09:22.200 Joe

01:09:22.480 Biden

01:09:22.820 yesterday

01:09:23.320 because he

01:09:23.680 was really

01:09:24.060 mad about

01:09:24.660 this and

01:09:25.020 he wanted

01:09:25.300 to prove

01:09:26.040 how good

01:09:27.240 his cognitive

01:09:27.860 abilities

01:09:28.400 were and

01:09:29.260 I want to

01:09:29.520 show you

01:09:29.780 two clips

01:09:30.220 and if it's

01:09:30.880 not in this

01:09:31.240 one get

01:09:31.580 the next

01:09:31.900 one ready

01:09:32.220 to where

01:09:33.040 he said

01:09:33.620 Mexico

01:09:34.300 instead of

01:09:35.660 Gaza

01:09:36.000 let's take

01:09:36.420 a look

01:09:36.600 at this

01:09:36.820 one

01:09:37.040 I know

01:09:38.980 there's

01:09:39.220 some

01:09:39.420 attention

01:09:39.820 paid to

01:09:40.360 some

01:09:40.560 language

01:09:40.960 and report

01:09:41.440 about my

01:09:42.300 recollection

01:09:42.860 of events

01:09:43.420 there's

01:09:44.300 even

01:09:44.500 reference

01:09:44.940 that I

01:09:45.520 don't

01:09:45.900 remember

01:09:46.340 when my

01:09:47.960 son died

01:09:48.520 how in

01:09:50.660 the hell

01:09:50.840 dare he

01:09:51.340 raise that

01:09:52.020 frankly

01:09:53.760 when I

01:09:54.020 was asked

01:09:54.360 the question

01:09:54.760 I thought

01:09:55.100 to myself

01:09:55.700 it wasn't

01:09:56.600 any other

01:09:56.940 damn

01:09:57.240 business

01:09:57.800 let me

01:09:59.540 tell you

01:09:59.840 something

01:10:00.160 some of

01:10:02.080 you have

01:10:02.260 commented

01:10:02.560 I wear

01:10:03.120 since the

01:10:03.680 day he

01:10:04.020 died

01:10:04.480 every

01:10:05.220 single

01:10:05.500 day

01:10:05.740 the

01:10:05.940 rosary

01:10:06.260 he

01:10:06.400 got

01:10:06.640 from

01:10:06.860 our

01:10:07.000 lady

01:10:07.240 of

01:10:07.440 every

01:10:11.860 memorial

01:10:12.240 day

01:10:12.460 we

01:10:12.620 hold

01:10:12.880 a

01:10:13.040 service

01:10:13.360 remembering

01:10:13.820 him

01:10:14.120 attending

01:10:14.540 my

01:10:15.060 friends

01:10:15.440 and

01:10:15.600 family

01:10:15.980 and

01:10:16.140 the

01:10:16.260 people

01:10:16.440 who

01:10:16.620 loved

01:10:16.840 him

01:10:17.020 I

01:10:18.180 don't

01:10:18.340 need

01:10:18.540 anyone

01:10:19.020 I

01:10:19.740 don't

01:10:19.860 need

01:10:20.060 anyone

01:10:20.560 to

01:10:21.600 remind

01:10:21.960 me

01:10:22.140 when

01:10:22.340 he

01:10:22.480 passed

01:10:22.780 away

01:10:23.200 or

01:10:23.400 passed

01:10:23.860 away

01:10:24.220 simple

01:10:25.540 truth

01:10:25.860 is

01:10:26.040 I

01:10:26.200 sat

01:10:26.420 for

01:10:26.560 a

01:10:26.660 500

01:10:27.040 interview

01:10:27.400 over

01:10:27.580 two

01:10:27.780 days

01:10:28.060 of

01:10:28.180 events

01:10:28.560 going

01:10:29.420 back

01:10:29.660 40

01:10:29.980 years

01:10:30.460 at the

01:10:31.480 same

01:10:31.720 time

01:10:32.020 I

01:10:32.160 was

01:10:32.300 managing

01:10:32.660 an

01:10:32.840 international

01:10:33.160 crisis

01:10:33.720 their

01:10:34.580 task

01:10:35.020 was to

01:10:35.320 make

01:10:35.480 a

01:10:35.600 decision

01:10:36.040 about

01:10:37.000 whether

01:10:37.340 to

01:10:37.520 move

01:10:37.720 forward

01:10:38.060 the

01:10:38.260 charges

01:10:38.580 in

01:10:38.780 this

01:10:38.960 case

01:10:39.320 that

01:10:40.300 is

01:10:40.580 their

01:10:40.800 decision

01:10:41.240 to

01:10:41.400 make

01:10:41.560 that

01:10:41.760 is

01:10:41.860 the

01:10:41.980 council's

01:10:42.400 decision

01:10:42.780 to

01:10:43.280 make

01:10:43.480 that

01:10:43.740 is

01:10:43.840 his

01:10:43.960 job

01:10:44.360 and

01:10:45.440 they

01:10:45.560 decided

01:10:45.980 not

01:10:46.460 to

01:10:46.700 move

01:10:46.920 forward

01:10:47.380 for

01:10:48.320 any

01:10:48.500 extraneous

01:10:48.980 commentary

01:10:49.500 they

01:10:49.920 don't

01:10:50.340 know

01:10:50.980 what

01:10:51.700 they're

01:10:51.860 talking

01:10:52.180 about

01:10:52.540 it

01:10:53.320 has

01:10:53.480 no

01:10:53.680 place

01:10:54.000 in

01:10:54.100 this

01:10:54.240 report

01:10:54.620 bottom

01:10:55.160 line

01:10:55.480 as

01:10:55.640 a

01:10:55.780 matter

01:10:56.040 is

01:10:56.760 now

01:10:57.020 closed

01:10:57.720 I'm

01:10:58.300 going to

01:10:58.480 continue

01:10:58.940 what

01:10:59.200 I've

01:10:59.440 always

01:10:59.760 focused

01:11:00.120 on

01:11:00.460 my

01:11:00.960 job

01:11:01.300 of

01:11:01.420 being

01:11:01.540 president

01:11:01.940 of

01:11:02.080 United

01:11:02.260 States

01:11:02.580 of

01:11:02.720 America

01:11:03.080 I'm

01:11:17.540 well-meaning

01:11:18.200 and I'm

01:11:18.640 an elderly

01:11:19.040 man

01:11:19.520 and I

01:11:19.840 know

01:11:20.000 what

01:11:20.140 the hell

01:11:20.340 I'm

01:11:20.500 doing

01:11:20.720 I'm

01:11:20.940 president

01:11:21.400 and I

01:11:21.680 put

01:11:21.920 this

01:11:22.120 country

01:11:22.480 back

01:11:22.780 on

01:11:22.960 its

01:11:23.120 feet

01:11:23.380 I

01:11:24.020 don't

01:11:24.180 need

01:11:24.420 his

01:11:24.600 recommendation

01:11:25.180 How bad

01:11:26.000 is your

01:11:26.520 memory

01:11:26.980 and can

01:11:27.820 you

01:11:27.980 continue

01:11:28.440 as

01:11:28.720 president

01:11:29.160 My

01:11:29.860 memory

01:11:30.240 is so

01:11:30.600 bad

01:11:30.860 I

01:11:30.980 let

01:11:31.260 you

01:11:31.400 speak

01:11:31.880 that's

01:11:33.980 that's

01:11:34.780 that's

01:11:34.940 my

01:11:35.080 memory

01:11:35.520 has

01:11:35.760 gotten

01:11:36.020 worse

01:11:36.500 my

01:11:36.920 memory

01:11:38.120 is

01:11:38.280 fine

01:11:39.640 my

01:11:40.480 memory

01:11:40.820 take

01:11:41.160 a look

01:11:41.380 at what

01:11:41.580 I've

01:11:41.740 done

01:11:41.960 since

01:11:42.180 I

01:11:42.280 become

01:11:42.500 president

01:11:42.940 none

01:11:43.720 of you

01:11:43.900 thought

01:11:44.060 I

01:11:44.180 could

01:11:44.320 pass

01:11:44.620 any

01:11:44.800 of the

01:11:44.980 things

01:11:45.180 I

01:11:45.320 got

01:11:45.460 passed

01:11:45.920 how

01:11:46.400 did

01:11:46.520 that

01:11:46.620 happen

01:11:46.940 you

01:11:47.880 know

01:11:48.020 I

01:11:48.160 guess

01:11:48.360 I

01:11:48.520 just

01:11:48.720 forgot

01:11:49.020 what

01:11:49.220 was

01:11:49.360 going

01:11:49.540 on

01:11:49.920 only

01:11:59.640 by

01:11:59.840 some

01:12:00.060 of

01:12:00.200 you

01:12:01.020 I

01:12:05.920 take

01:12:06.160 responsibility

01:12:07.080 for

01:12:07.340 at least

01:12:07.620 being

01:12:07.780 careless

01:12:08.240 with

01:12:08.560 classified

01:12:08.940 material

01:12:09.480 I

01:12:10.820 take

01:12:11.080 responsibility

01:12:11.700 for not

01:12:12.460 having

01:12:12.940 seen

01:12:14.640 exactly

01:12:15.200 what my

01:12:15.760 staff

01:12:16.320 was doing

01:12:16.880 it goes in

01:12:18.160 and points

01:12:18.560 out

01:12:18.900 things that

01:12:19.820 appeared in

01:12:20.220 my garage

01:12:20.800 things that

01:12:21.220 came out

01:12:21.580 of my

01:12:21.780 home

01:12:22.080 things that

01:12:22.560 were moved

01:12:23.640 not by me

01:12:24.400 but my

01:12:24.800 staff

01:12:25.260 but my

01:12:26.080 staff

01:12:26.540 for

01:12:35.420 months

01:12:35.800 when

01:12:36.040 you

01:12:36.160 were

01:12:36.320 asked

01:12:36.600 about

01:12:36.820 your

01:12:37.000 age

01:12:37.380 you

01:12:37.780 would

01:12:37.960 respond

01:12:38.420 with

01:12:38.640 the

01:12:38.780 words

01:12:39.060 watch

01:12:39.520 me

01:12:39.780 many

01:12:40.360 American

01:12:40.800 people

01:12:41.420 have

01:12:41.780 been

01:12:41.920 watching

01:12:42.320 and

01:12:42.780 they

01:12:42.940 have

01:12:43.100 expressed

01:12:43.460 concerns

01:12:44.040 about

01:12:44.500 your

01:12:44.760 age

01:12:45.060 that

01:12:45.300 is

01:12:45.520 your

01:12:45.820 judgment

01:12:46.400 that

01:12:46.920 is

01:12:47.120 your

01:12:47.380 judgment

01:12:47.920 that

01:12:48.600 is

01:12:48.800 not

01:12:48.960 the

01:12:49.220 judgment

01:12:49.700 of

01:12:49.920 the

01:12:50.060 press

01:12:50.380 they

01:12:50.600 expressed

01:12:50.980 concerns

01:12:51.420 about

01:12:51.680 your

01:12:51.880 mental

01:12:52.140 acuity

01:12:52.620 they

01:12:52.900 say

01:12:53.140 that

01:12:53.320 you

01:12:53.440 are

01:12:53.580 too

01:12:53.760 old

01:12:54.060 Mr.

01:12:54.680 President

01:12:55.000 in

01:12:55.300 December

01:12:55.720 you

01:12:56.000 told

01:12:56.220 me

01:12:56.360 that

01:12:56.500 you

01:12:56.680 believe

01:12:57.020 there

01:12:57.400 are

01:12:57.560 many

01:12:57.840 other

01:12:58.140 Democrats

01:12:58.540 who

01:12:58.840 could

01:12:59.120 defeat

01:12:59.460 Donald

01:12:59.760 Trump

01:13:00.040 so why

01:13:00.680 does it

01:13:01.000 have to

01:13:01.320 be

01:13:01.480 you

01:13:01.660 now

01:13:01.960 what

01:13:02.360 is

01:13:02.780 your

01:13:02.900 answer

01:13:03.020 to that

01:13:03.380 question

01:13:03.640 you know

01:13:10.160 that

01:13:10.620 press

01:13:11.720 conference

01:13:12.240 there was

01:13:12.860 a number

01:13:14.680 of things

01:13:15.080 yesterday

01:13:15.480 that just

01:13:15.900 made

01:13:16.240 he went

01:13:16.720 out

01:13:16.980 to

01:13:17.200 demonstrate

01:13:17.680 how

01:13:18.380 sharp

01:13:18.840 he

01:13:19.020 was

01:13:19.320 but

01:13:19.520 oh

01:13:19.760 my

01:13:19.940 God

01:13:20.340 you know

01:13:23.260 he mixed

01:13:23.860 up

01:13:24.100 Mexico

01:13:24.580 and

01:13:24.980 Gaza

01:13:25.440 and

01:13:27.200 I

01:13:27.580 want

01:13:27.820 to

01:13:27.940 go

01:13:28.120 to

01:13:28.560 I

01:13:29.800 just

01:13:30.020 sent

01:13:30.280 you

01:13:30.420 a

01:13:30.560 link

01:13:30.760 to

01:13:30.980 a

01:13:31.200 Twitter

01:13:31.980 account

01:13:32.280 called

01:13:32.520 Technofog

01:13:33.240 Olivia

01:13:33.560 where

01:13:35.400 he's

01:13:35.720 posting

01:13:36.200 various

01:13:36.800 excerpts

01:13:37.300 from

01:13:37.620 this

01:13:38.580 report

01:13:39.200 by

01:13:40.360 special

01:13:43.480 counsel

01:13:44.360 Robert

01:13:45.300 Herr

01:13:45.960 so

01:13:47.740 it

01:13:48.040 found

01:13:48.800 that

01:13:49.540 Joe

01:13:49.980 Biden

01:13:50.180 retained

01:13:50.560 all

01:13:50.740 these

01:13:50.940 secrets

01:13:51.340 kept

01:13:51.640 him

01:13:51.800 in

01:13:51.900 his

01:13:52.060 garage

01:13:52.360 and

01:13:52.560 stuff

01:13:52.780 can

01:13:52.960 you

01:13:53.120 scroll

01:13:53.400 down

01:13:53.660 a

01:13:53.820 bit

01:13:54.040 you

01:13:56.160 know

01:13:56.280 he

01:13:56.440 unlawfully

01:13:57.080 retained

01:13:57.380 classified

01:13:57.780 notes

01:13:58.360 gave

01:13:59.200 classified

01:14:00.280 info

01:14:00.580 to

01:14:00.760 his

01:14:00.920 ghost

01:14:01.260 writer

01:14:01.640 but

01:14:03.440 scroll

01:14:03.800 down

01:14:04.140 to

01:14:04.500 where

01:14:05.560 they

01:14:05.740 describe

01:14:06.340 how

01:14:06.620 forgetful

01:14:07.260 he

01:14:07.440 was

01:14:07.820 and

01:14:09.600 it's

01:14:09.960 scroll

01:14:10.440 down

01:14:10.640 a bit

01:14:10.900 to

01:14:11.040 a

01:14:11.340 little

01:14:11.440 bit

01:14:11.620 further

01:14:11.980 Biden's

01:14:13.960 serious

01:14:14.680 cognitive

01:14:15.280 issues

01:14:15.840 are

01:14:16.060 exposed

01:14:16.560 and

01:14:17.160 he's

01:14:17.360 quoting

01:14:17.800 yeah

01:14:18.960 it's

01:14:19.120 right

01:14:19.280 here

01:14:19.560 he

01:14:21.240 did

01:14:21.500 not

01:14:21.920 remember

01:14:22.740 when

01:14:23.880 he

01:14:25.120 was

01:14:25.480 vice

01:14:25.820 president

01:14:26.340 he

01:14:28.260 forgot

01:14:28.860 when

01:14:30.500 his

01:14:30.780 term

01:14:31.120 began

01:14:31.700 he

01:14:33.560 did

01:14:33.840 not

01:14:34.080 remember

01:14:34.600 even

01:14:35.320 within

01:14:35.760 several

01:14:36.480 years

01:14:37.120 when

01:14:38.500 his

01:14:38.840 son

01:14:39.220 Bo

01:14:39.600 died

01:14:40.160 and

01:14:43.560 you

01:14:44.900 saw

01:14:45.100 he was

01:14:45.380 asked

01:14:45.660 about

01:14:45.960 that

01:14:46.240 and

01:14:46.400 he

01:14:46.480 was

01:14:46.600 really

01:14:46.820 mad

01:14:47.060 how

01:14:47.260 dare

01:14:47.560 you

01:14:47.780 I

01:14:48.000 remembered

01:14:48.480 Bo

01:14:48.860 so

01:14:49.800 he

01:14:49.960 didn't

01:14:50.280 deny

01:14:50.640 that

01:14:50.820 he

01:14:50.920 couldn't

01:14:51.120 remember

01:14:51.420 when

01:14:51.660 his

01:14:51.800 son

01:14:51.980 Bo

01:14:52.180 died

01:14:52.420 he

01:14:52.560 just

01:14:52.740 was

01:14:52.920 very

01:14:53.140 mad

01:14:53.460 that

01:14:53.620 someone

01:14:53.840 would

01:14:54.020 ask

01:14:54.300 him

01:14:54.440 that

01:14:54.600 personal

01:14:54.940 question

01:14:55.420 I

01:14:57.920 show

01:14:58.140 you

01:14:58.260 these

01:14:58.440 clips

01:14:58.760 and

01:15:00.480 I

01:15:00.560 don't

01:15:00.700 need

01:15:00.860 to

01:15:00.980 show

01:15:01.140 you

01:15:01.220 the

01:15:01.320 clip

01:15:01.520 about

01:15:01.820 he

01:15:02.920 called

01:15:03.200 the

01:15:03.380 president

01:15:03.700 of

01:15:03.900 Mexico

01:15:04.280 the

01:15:04.520 president

01:15:04.860 of

01:15:05.080 Egypt

01:15:05.420 or

01:15:06.520 something

01:15:06.960 he

01:15:08.180 confused

01:15:08.700 Francois

01:15:10.320 Mitterrand

01:15:10.920 a French

01:15:11.840 leader

01:15:12.040 who was

01:15:12.280 dead

01:15:12.500 for

01:15:12.740 years

01:15:13.100 do

01:15:14.800 you

01:15:14.920 really

01:15:15.160 think

01:15:15.560 that

01:15:16.580 Vladimir

01:15:16.940 Putin

01:15:17.340 would

01:15:17.820 call

01:15:18.100 up

01:15:18.300 Joe

01:15:18.520 Biden

01:15:18.880 for

01:15:20.420 what

01:15:20.740 reason

01:15:21.320 so

01:15:23.380 Joe

01:15:23.780 Biden

01:15:24.020 could

01:15:24.200 ask

01:15:24.520 him

01:15:24.660 who

01:15:24.800 he

01:15:24.940 was

01:15:25.220 again

01:15:25.540 I

01:15:26.840 just

01:15:27.000 want

01:15:27.140 to

01:15:27.220 show

01:15:27.340 you

01:15:27.420 one

01:15:27.600 last

01:15:27.940 clip

01:15:28.220 and

01:15:28.340 it's

01:15:28.540 the

01:15:28.740 CIA

01:15:29.080 one

01:15:29.380 I

01:15:29.500 sent

01:15:29.700 it

01:15:29.800 to

01:15:29.920 Olivia

01:15:30.160 do

01:15:30.320 you

01:15:30.360 have

01:15:30.520 it

01:15:30.620 there

01:15:30.800 so

01:15:34.060 Tucker

01:15:35.220 Carlson

01:15:35.660 is an

01:15:35.920 interesting

01:15:36.240 guy

01:15:36.460 I'm

01:15:36.680 a big

01:15:36.940 fan

01:15:37.260 by the

01:15:37.600 way

01:15:37.840 I

01:15:39.020 like

01:15:39.220 his

01:15:39.380 style

01:15:39.760 I

01:15:40.420 like

01:15:40.680 how

01:15:40.920 he's

01:15:41.180 gone

01:15:41.360 independent

01:15:41.780 I

01:15:42.140 love

01:15:42.360 the

01:15:42.520 fact

01:15:42.740 that

01:15:42.940 he

01:15:43.180 doesn't

01:15:44.320 care

01:15:44.600 who

01:15:45.160 dislikes

01:15:46.440 him

01:15:46.580 in fact

01:15:46.840 he

01:15:46.960 sort

01:15:47.100 of

01:15:47.180 loves

01:15:47.400 him

01:15:47.640 I

01:15:48.200 like

01:15:48.340 the

01:15:48.480 fact

01:15:48.660 that

01:15:48.780 he

01:15:48.880 cares

01:15:49.080 about

01:15:49.280 Canada

01:15:49.720 I

01:15:50.640 really

01:15:51.000 get a

01:15:51.280 chuckle

01:15:51.580 out of

01:15:51.760 the

01:15:51.860 fact

01:15:52.020 that

01:15:52.160 he

01:15:52.260 deliberately

01:15:52.640 mispronounces

01:15:53.760 Ottawa

01:15:54.280 just to

01:15:55.360 get

01:15:55.620 Canadian

01:15:56.640 liberals

01:15:57.020 furious

01:15:57.500 there's a lot

01:15:57.940 of things

01:15:58.200 I like

01:15:58.500 about

01:15:58.760 Tucker

01:15:59.080 Carlson

01:15:59.460 I

01:15:59.980 don't

01:16:00.120 know

01:16:00.280 everything

01:16:00.540 about

01:16:00.860 him

01:16:00.960 I've

01:16:01.080 never

01:16:01.200 met

01:16:01.340 him

01:16:01.420 in

01:16:01.560 person

01:16:01.920 I've

01:16:02.700 just

01:16:02.880 dealt

01:16:03.180 with

01:16:03.320 him

01:16:03.460 through

01:16:03.860 a TV

01:16:04.560 camera

01:16:04.940 those

01:16:05.580 times

01:16:05.860 I

01:16:06.000 was

01:16:06.140 on

01:16:06.300 his

01:16:06.440 show

01:16:06.680 I

01:16:09.480 didn't

01:16:09.840 know

01:16:10.060 he

01:16:10.280 applied

01:16:10.720 to

01:16:10.960 join

01:16:11.220 the

01:16:11.420 CIA

01:16:11.760 when

01:16:12.100 he

01:16:12.200 was

01:16:12.340 a

01:16:12.460 young

01:16:12.620 man

01:16:12.960 and

01:16:14.260 of course

01:16:15.880 Putin

01:16:16.360 is a

01:16:16.720 former

01:16:16.940 KGB

01:16:17.460 man

01:16:17.900 let

01:16:20.180 me

01:16:20.360 play

01:16:21.280 this

01:16:21.480 very

01:16:21.720 short

01:16:22.120 clip

01:16:22.360 it's

01:16:22.520 just

01:16:22.640 20

01:16:22.920 seconds

01:16:23.380 of

01:16:24.180 Putin

01:16:24.480 sort

01:16:24.740 of

01:16:24.860 bringing

01:16:25.100 up

01:16:25.300 the

01:16:25.480 CIA

01:16:25.840 thing

01:16:26.140 in

01:16:26.300 a

01:16:26.680 little

01:16:27.020 jab

01:16:28.120 it's

01:16:28.520 sort

01:16:28.740 of

01:16:28.900 funny

01:16:29.240 take

01:16:29.700 a

01:16:29.800 look

01:16:30.020 with

01:16:31.320 the

01:16:31.480 backing

01:16:31.800 of

01:16:32.080 whom

01:16:32.420 with

01:16:37.180 the

01:16:37.300 backing

01:16:37.560 of

01:16:37.820 CIA

01:16:38.180 of

01:16:38.480 course

01:16:38.760 the

01:16:39.640 organization

01:16:40.220 you

01:16:40.460 wanted

01:16:40.760 to

01:16:40.980 join

01:16:41.240 back

01:16:41.560 in

01:16:41.720 the

01:16:41.840 day

01:16:42.080 as

01:16:42.400 I

01:16:42.520 understand

01:16:43.040 we

01:16:44.580 should

01:16:44.800 thank

01:16:45.040 God

01:16:45.320 they

01:16:45.500 didn't

01:16:45.680 let

01:16:45.900 you

01:16:46.060 in

01:16:46.300 although

01:16:47.040 it

01:16:47.760 is

01:16:47.940 a

01:16:48.160 serious

01:16:48.540 organization

01:16:49.320 I

01:16:50.100 understand

01:16:50.660 with

01:16:51.900 the

01:16:52.060 backing

01:16:52.400 of

01:16:52.640 I

01:16:53.900 think

01:16:54.080 that

01:16:54.240 was

01:16:54.380 in

01:16:54.520 response

01:16:54.840 to

01:16:55.080 the

01:16:55.280 question

01:16:55.620 who

01:16:55.900 blew

01:16:56.160 up

01:16:56.380 the

01:16:56.520 Nord Stream

01:16:57.100 pipeline

01:16:58.400 well

01:16:59.660 listen

01:16:59.860 we

01:17:00.060 sort

01:17:00.520 of

01:17:00.640 hopped

01:17:00.940 around

01:17:01.220 the

01:17:01.420 video

01:17:01.800 a

01:17:02.460 lot

01:17:02.760 and

01:17:03.800 Olivia

01:17:04.080 thank

01:17:04.380 you

01:17:04.460 very

01:17:04.620 much

01:17:04.820 for

01:17:05.000 finding

01:17:05.320 those

01:17:05.600 things

01:17:05.900 on

01:17:06.120 the

01:17:06.240 go

01:17:06.460 I

01:17:06.640 know

01:17:06.800 I

01:17:06.920 throw

01:17:07.120 things

01:17:07.400 at

01:17:07.580 you

01:17:07.660 and

01:17:07.720 it's

01:17:07.840 a

01:17:07.960 two

01:17:08.160 hour

01:17:08.500 video

01:17:09.560 so

01:17:09.920 finding

01:17:10.280 the

01:17:10.520 exact

01:17:10.860 moment

01:17:11.240 to

01:17:11.420 the

01:17:11.600 second

01:17:11.900 is

01:17:12.180 it's

01:17:12.840 not

01:17:13.040 easy

01:17:13.280 to

01:17:13.480 do

01:17:13.740 in

01:17:14.040 a

01:17:14.180 two

01:17:14.360 hour

01:17:14.540 video

01:17:14.960 I

01:17:15.880 recommend

01:17:16.260 it

01:17:16.420 I

01:17:16.600 have

01:17:17.280 not

01:17:17.580 yet

01:17:17.820 watched

01:17:18.120 the

01:17:18.300 whole

01:17:18.460 thing

01:17:18.740 from

01:17:18.980 end

01:17:19.180 to

01:17:19.300 end

01:17:19.500 I've

01:17:19.680 just

01:17:19.820 really

01:17:20.080 zeroed

01:17:20.540 in

01:17:20.640 on

01:17:20.780 different

01:17:21.020 parts

01:17:21.380 and

01:17:22.260 it's

01:17:22.580 sort

01:17:22.720 of

01:17:22.840 tough

01:17:23.080 to

01:17:23.280 get

01:17:23.440 right

01:17:23.700 into

01:17:24.040 because

01:17:24.780 of

01:17:24.960 that

01:17:25.100 30

01:17:25.520 minute

01:17:26.040 history

01:17:26.600 lecture

01:17:27.040 on

01:17:27.940 Russia

01:17:28.300 but

01:17:28.540 frankly

01:17:28.980 let's

01:17:30.160 check

01:17:30.460 the

01:17:31.040 view

01:17:31.240 count

01:17:31.560 on

01:17:31.740 it

01:17:31.840 because

01:17:32.100 an

01:17:32.400 hour

01:17:32.640 and

01:17:32.760 a

01:17:32.840 half

01:17:33.020 ago

01:17:33.200 when

01:17:33.380 we

01:17:33.540 checked

01:17:33.880 do you

01:17:34.140 remember

01:17:34.360 what

01:17:34.580 it

01:17:34.700 was

01:17:35.020 the

01:17:35.180 view

01:17:35.340 count

01:17:35.620 130

01:17:38.120 million

01:17:38.600 or so

01:17:39.060 let's

01:17:39.320 take a

01:17:39.600 look

01:17:39.720 what

01:17:39.880 it

01:17:40.000 is

01:17:40.240 now

01:17:40.920 just

01:17:41.260 in

01:17:41.440 the

01:17:41.560 last

01:17:41.940 hour

01:17:42.360 and

01:17:42.540 15

01:17:42.900 minutes

01:17:43.320 136

01:17:46.300 million

01:17:46.580 so

01:17:46.800 are you

01:17:47.020 saying

01:17:47.280 it's

01:17:47.700 grown

01:17:48.000 by

01:17:48.240 6

01:17:49.160 million

01:17:49.480 was it

01:17:49.920 like

01:17:50.200 exactly

01:17:50.660 130

01:17:51.140 million

01:17:51.460 do you

01:17:51.600 remember

01:17:51.840 so

01:17:53.780 even

01:17:54.180 as

01:17:54.480 we've

01:17:54.700 been

01:17:54.840 sitting

01:17:55.180 here

01:17:55.600 6.5

01:17:57.760 million

01:17:58.280 people

01:17:58.760 have

01:17:59.000 watched

01:17:59.360 this

01:17:59.740 version

01:18:00.220 but

01:18:00.940 there

01:18:01.280 are

01:18:01.460 many

01:18:01.960 every

01:18:02.940 single

01:18:03.340 clip

01:18:03.680 we've

01:18:03.980 shown

01:18:04.240 you

01:18:04.420 has

01:18:04.620 been

01:18:04.840 cut

01:18:05.220 and

01:18:05.760 reposted

01:18:06.480 by

01:18:06.640 someone

01:18:07.040 else

01:18:07.500 a lot

01:18:08.920 of

01:18:09.000 people

01:18:09.220 saw

01:18:09.560 it

01:18:09.720 on

01:18:09.900 Tucker

01:18:10.140 Carlson's

01:18:10.720 own

01:18:11.140 website

01:18:12.080 and

01:18:13.820 if

01:18:15.400 it's

01:18:15.580 had

01:18:15.740 136

01:18:16.920 million

01:18:17.180 views

01:18:17.500 on

01:18:17.840 that

01:18:18.340 alone

01:18:18.860 I

01:18:20.060 don't

01:18:20.320 think

01:18:20.560 it's

01:18:20.760 crazy

01:18:21.160 to

01:18:21.400 think

01:18:21.620 that

01:18:21.780 this

01:18:21.980 video

01:18:22.460 and

01:18:23.240 all

01:18:23.540 its

01:18:23.760 clippings

01:18:24.580 have

01:18:25.860 been

01:18:26.060 seen

01:18:26.340 a

01:18:26.600 billion

01:18:26.940 times

01:18:27.720 I

01:18:29.440 mean

01:18:29.660 I

01:18:30.200 think

01:18:30.380 far

01:18:30.660 more

01:18:30.820 people

01:18:31.080 have

01:18:31.260 seen

01:18:31.460 the

01:18:31.620 little

01:18:31.800 clips

01:18:32.140 than

01:18:32.400 watched

01:18:32.880 the

01:18:33.060 whole

01:18:33.220 thing

01:18:33.680 now

01:18:35.100 acknowledge

01:18:35.560 that

01:18:35.980 136

01:18:36.960 million

01:18:37.220 views

01:18:37.600 maybe

01:18:38.120 that's

01:18:38.420 only

01:18:38.600 for

01:18:38.820 a few

01:18:39.060 seconds

01:18:39.460 but

01:18:39.680 even

01:18:39.900 if

01:18:40.140 only

01:18:40.540 10%

01:18:41.700 of

01:18:42.420 those

01:18:42.620 people

01:18:42.920 watch

01:18:43.260 a

01:18:43.400 significant

01:18:43.840 amount

01:18:44.340 that

01:18:45.080 is

01:18:45.360 an

01:18:45.720 enormous

01:18:46.200 audience

01:18:46.880 and

01:18:47.980 I

01:18:48.460 think

01:18:48.660 people

01:18:49.060 you don't

01:18:50.020 think

01:18:50.220 Hillary

01:18:50.460 Clinton

01:18:50.700 was

01:18:50.860 watching

01:18:51.180 it

01:18:51.360 you

01:18:52.340 don't

01:18:52.460 think

01:18:52.620 Vladimir

01:18:53.000 Zelensky

01:18:53.540 was

01:18:53.820 watching

01:18:54.120 it

01:18:54.260 they

01:18:54.380 talked

01:18:54.640 about

01:18:54.840 Zelensky

01:18:55.260 in fact

01:18:55.580 let's

01:18:56.320 just dig up

01:18:56.800 one more

01:18:57.240 thing

01:18:57.660 and

01:18:58.360 let me

01:18:58.880 I would

01:18:59.500 go to

01:18:59.760 Twitter

01:19:00.020 and I would

01:19:00.380 search

01:19:00.660 Putin

01:19:01.800 Zelensky

01:19:03.260 father

01:19:04.220 because

01:19:05.800 I thought

01:19:06.460 this was

01:19:06.740 an interesting

01:19:07.180 exchange

01:19:07.820 Putin and

01:19:09.380 Zelensky

01:19:09.740 have spoken

01:19:10.280 before

01:19:10.740 in fact

01:19:11.120 Zelensky

01:19:11.560 when he ran

01:19:12.080 for office

01:19:12.460 ran as the

01:19:12.980 peace

01:19:13.260 candidate

01:19:13.700 and one

01:19:15.220 of the

01:19:15.380 conversations

01:19:15.940 in the

01:19:16.380 video

01:19:16.740 was about

01:19:18.200 yeah that's

01:19:18.640 the exact

01:19:19.000 clip there

01:19:19.400 was about

01:19:19.880 the

01:19:20.080 denazification

01:19:21.160 one of

01:19:22.460 the things

01:19:22.880 that

01:19:23.100 Tucker Carlson

01:19:24.280 asked was

01:19:24.640 what are

01:19:24.960 your goals

01:19:25.520 what do

01:19:26.320 you want

01:19:26.680 to happen

01:19:27.120 in Ukraine

01:19:27.560 and how

01:19:28.000 will it

01:19:28.240 happen

01:19:28.480 if you

01:19:28.720 don't

01:19:28.860 conquer

01:19:29.140 the whole

01:19:29.380 place

01:19:29.720 and one

01:19:30.300 of the

01:19:30.500 things

01:19:30.760 Putin

01:19:31.300 said

01:19:31.620 is

01:19:31.960 denazification

01:19:33.120 I think

01:19:33.620 that first

01:19:34.040 clip

01:19:34.240 there

01:19:34.520 is the

01:19:35.720 one

01:19:35.840 it's just

01:19:36.040 a very

01:19:36.320 brief

01:19:36.620 one

01:19:36.840 where he

01:19:37.160 talks

01:19:37.420 about

01:19:37.720 his last

01:19:39.040 conversation

01:19:39.480 with Zelensky

01:19:40.220 about how

01:19:40.820 can you

01:19:41.180 not fight

01:19:42.160 against

01:19:42.460 fascists

01:19:42.920 your father

01:19:43.600 did

01:19:44.000 and remember

01:19:44.740 Zelensky

01:19:45.240 is a Jew

01:19:45.660 take a

01:19:46.000 look

01:19:46.200 said

01:19:47.560 Volodya

01:19:48.820 what are

01:19:49.660 you doing

01:19:50.120 why are

01:19:51.320 you supporting

01:19:51.940 neo-Nazis

01:19:52.820 in Ukraine

01:19:53.320 today

01:19:53.760 while your

01:19:54.820 father fought

01:19:55.560 against

01:19:55.900 fascism

01:19:56.500 he was

01:19:57.500 a front

01:19:57.980 line

01:19:58.260 soldier

01:19:58.740 I will

01:20:00.120 not tell

01:20:00.560 you

01:20:00.740 what he

01:20:01.020 answered

01:20:01.380 this is

01:20:01.940 a separate

01:20:02.380 topic

01:20:02.820 and I

01:20:03.540 think

01:20:03.800 it's

01:20:04.040 incorrect

01:20:04.420 for me

01:20:04.860 to do

01:20:05.180 so

01:20:05.520 said

01:20:06.380 isn't

01:20:07.620 that

01:20:07.780 interesting

01:20:08.280 so

01:20:09.020 it's

01:20:09.500 just

01:20:09.620 a very

01:20:09.900 tight

01:20:10.160 clip

01:20:10.400 there

01:20:10.600 but

01:20:10.800 the

01:20:11.440 intro

01:20:11.720 to

01:20:11.840 that

01:20:11.940 would

01:20:12.080 be

01:20:12.180 he

01:20:12.320 called

01:20:12.680 Zelensky

01:20:13.460 or they

01:20:13.680 talked

01:20:13.880 on the

01:20:14.140 phone

01:20:14.300 I don't

01:20:14.480 know who

01:20:14.700 called

01:20:14.960 whom

01:20:15.180 and he

01:20:16.020 tried to

01:20:16.540 appeal

01:20:16.860 to

01:20:17.320 Zelensky's

01:20:18.300 family

01:20:19.160 tradition

01:20:19.680 because his

01:20:20.320 father fought

01:20:20.860 against the

01:20:21.260 Nazis

01:20:21.460 apparently

01:20:21.840 that's an

01:20:23.880 interesting

01:20:24.300 thing

01:20:25.240 and an

01:20:26.980 also

01:20:27.220 interesting

01:20:27.720 thing

01:20:27.960 is

01:20:28.200 Putin

01:20:29.540 did not

01:20:30.200 say

01:20:30.640 what

01:20:30.980 Zelensky

01:20:31.640 told

01:20:32.000 him

01:20:32.740 I don't

01:20:33.740 know

01:20:34.180 is that

01:20:34.320 some sort

01:20:34.720 of

01:20:34.800 code

01:20:35.040 of

01:20:35.180 honor

01:20:35.580 or

01:20:35.820 something

01:20:36.200 or

01:20:36.520 I

01:20:37.140 don't

01:20:37.360 know

01:20:37.580 but I

01:20:37.840 think

01:20:37.980 he

01:20:38.080 did

01:20:38.240 that

01:20:38.380 a couple

01:20:38.800 of

01:20:38.980 times

01:20:39.320 in the

01:20:39.640 interview

01:20:40.000 where I

01:20:40.800 think

01:20:40.940 a western

01:20:41.360 politician

01:20:41.980 would have

01:20:42.360 said

01:20:42.540 aha

01:20:42.860 I have

01:20:43.420 a juicy

01:20:43.840 tidbit

01:20:44.320 about

01:20:44.660 my

01:20:44.880 enemy

01:20:45.120 I'm

01:20:45.360 going

01:20:45.460 to

01:20:45.560 release

01:20:45.840 it

01:20:45.960 now

01:20:46.240 Putin

01:20:46.920 didn't

01:20:47.600 give

01:20:48.120 in

01:20:48.340 to

01:20:48.460 that

01:20:48.800 impulse

01:20:49.520 if he

01:20:49.880 had

01:20:50.140 it

01:20:50.260 at

01:20:50.400 all

01:20:50.640 I

01:20:52.540 saw

01:20:54.300 Tucker

01:20:54.860 Carlson

01:20:55.260 recorded

01:20:55.800 a sort

01:20:56.120 of a

01:20:56.340 nine

01:20:56.620 minute

01:20:56.920 after

01:20:57.980 the

01:20:58.220 fact

01:20:58.580 decompressing

01:21:00.340 comment

01:21:01.400 when he

01:21:02.500 was still

01:21:02.960 his head

01:21:03.360 was surely

01:21:04.040 swirling

01:21:04.660 and he

01:21:05.320 said

01:21:05.500 it's going

01:21:05.740 to take

01:21:06.020 him a

01:21:06.220 year

01:21:06.380 to fully

01:21:06.780 understand

01:21:07.260 what he

01:21:07.540 heard

01:21:07.720 and I

01:21:08.000 think

01:21:08.180 he's

01:21:08.340 probably

01:21:08.600 right

01:21:08.980 I

01:21:10.840 think

01:21:11.040 a lot

01:21:11.420 of

01:21:11.720 CIA

01:21:12.420 and

01:21:13.040 MI5

01:21:13.880 or

01:21:14.060 6

01:21:14.320 or

01:21:14.480 whichever

01:21:14.720 one

01:21:15.100 it

01:21:15.260 is

01:21:15.560 a lot

01:21:15.800 of

01:21:15.900 people

01:21:16.080 are

01:21:16.220 going

01:21:16.320 to

01:21:16.380 be

01:21:16.680 analyzing

01:21:17.420 that

01:21:17.680 the

01:21:17.820 Ukrainian

01:21:18.240 intelligence

01:21:18.940 NATO

01:21:19.280 intelligence

01:21:19.880 a lot

01:21:20.500 of

01:21:20.600 Russians

01:21:20.900 are

01:21:21.280 going

01:21:21.400 to

01:21:21.420 be

01:21:21.540 watching

01:21:21.860 it

01:21:22.100 and

01:21:22.480 and

01:21:23.000 because

01:21:23.180 remember

01:21:23.440 Putin

01:21:23.720 was

01:21:23.860 talking

01:21:24.080 to

01:21:24.200 the

01:21:24.300 West

01:21:24.500 but

01:21:24.680 he

01:21:24.900 was

01:21:25.040 also

01:21:25.300 talking

01:21:25.620 in

01:21:25.800 Russian

01:21:26.080 to

01:21:26.600 his

01:21:26.760 own

01:21:26.900 country

01:21:27.260 he

01:21:28.220 was

01:21:28.340 talking

01:21:28.520 to

01:21:28.620 Ukraine

01:21:28.940 he

01:21:29.060 was

01:21:29.160 talking

01:21:29.380 to

01:21:29.500 NATO

01:21:29.780 he

01:21:30.180 was

01:21:30.280 talking

01:21:30.520 to

01:21:30.680 China

01:21:30.980 he

01:21:31.120 was

01:21:31.200 talking

01:21:31.420 to

01:21:31.540 the

01:21:31.640 world

01:21:31.940 he

01:21:33.060 was

01:21:33.220 the

01:21:33.320 biggest

01:21:33.520 moment

01:21:33.780 for

01:21:33.940 Tucker

01:21:34.160 Kalsama

01:21:34.580 probably

01:21:35.220 one of

01:21:35.460 the

01:21:35.500 biggest

01:21:35.660 moments

01:21:35.900 for

01:21:36.080 Putin

01:21:36.300 too

01:21:36.600 there

01:21:38.360 will

01:21:38.460 be

01:21:38.560 a lot

01:21:38.780 to

01:21:38.900 be

01:21:39.020 studied

01:21:39.380 there

01:21:39.740 and

01:21:41.320 of

01:21:41.440 course

01:21:41.620 Hillary

01:21:41.840 Clinton

01:21:42.060 is

01:21:42.220 right

01:21:42.420 to

01:21:42.600 say

01:21:42.780 politicians

01:21:43.260 lie

01:21:43.740 and

01:21:44.260 authoritarian

01:21:44.640 dictators

01:21:44.780 probably

01:21:45.780 lie

01:21:46.000 more

01:21:46.220 than

01:21:46.360 most

01:21:46.740 but

01:21:47.820 when

01:21:49.000 he

01:21:49.160 describes

01:21:49.760 his

01:21:50.040 views

01:21:50.480 on

01:21:50.820 BRICS

01:21:51.360 and

01:21:51.540 China

01:21:52.060 and

01:21:52.540 the

01:21:52.880 de-dollarization

01:21:53.860 and

01:21:54.240 sanctions

01:21:54.700 and

01:21:55.160 purchasing

01:21:56.100 power

01:21:56.680 and

01:21:56.940 economic

01:21:57.500 real

01:21:57.780 how are

01:21:59.020 those

01:21:59.220 lies

01:21:59.640 how are

01:21:59.960 those

01:22:00.120 not

01:22:00.320 obvious

01:22:00.820 observations

01:22:01.500 of

01:22:01.820 someone

01:22:02.080 who

01:22:02.380 has

01:22:02.900 a

01:22:03.020 different

01:22:03.240 world

01:22:03.520 view

01:22:03.880 Russia

01:22:04.980 has

01:22:05.160 always

01:22:05.440 straddled

01:22:05.980 west

01:22:06.360 and

01:22:06.560 east

01:22:06.960 I

01:22:07.500 mean

01:22:07.720 Vladivostok

01:22:09.040 is

01:22:09.760 so far

01:22:10.500 it's

01:22:10.800 over

01:22:11.220 Japan

01:22:11.860 that's

01:22:12.560 how far

01:22:13.000 east

01:22:13.500 Russia

01:22:14.480 goes

01:22:14.760 so far

01:22:15.080 east

01:22:15.300 it

01:22:15.420 almost

01:22:15.700 comes

01:22:16.400 west

01:22:16.760 again

01:22:17.020 and

01:22:17.300 touches

01:22:18.000 Alaska

01:22:18.580 and

01:22:19.520 yet

01:22:19.720 it's

01:22:20.040 in

01:22:20.300 the

01:22:20.420 heart

01:22:20.600 of

01:22:20.740 Europe

01:22:20.960 as

01:22:21.220 well

01:22:21.540 it's

01:22:23.260 always

01:22:23.540 had

01:22:24.000 sort

01:22:24.240 of

01:22:24.320 a

01:22:24.420 split

01:22:24.640 personality

01:22:25.400 and

01:22:26.460 is

01:22:26.800 it

01:22:26.940 eastern

01:22:27.280 or

01:22:27.460 is

01:22:27.680 it

01:22:27.800 western

01:22:28.180 and

01:22:29.720 one

01:22:31.080 of

01:22:31.180 the

01:22:31.320 things

01:22:31.640 that

01:22:31.900 Tucker

01:22:32.780 acknowledged

01:22:33.280 in

01:22:33.440 this

01:22:33.560 sort

01:22:33.720 of

01:22:33.820 after

01:22:34.180 right

01:22:35.500 after

01:22:35.800 the

01:22:35.960 moment

01:22:36.160 videos

01:22:36.560 is

01:22:36.720 he

01:22:36.840 said

01:22:37.080 he

01:22:37.240 felt

01:22:37.720 Putin

01:22:38.740 had

01:22:38.980 some

01:22:39.220 anger

01:22:39.700 about

01:22:40.980 the way

01:22:41.440 things

01:22:41.820 have

01:22:41.980 gone

01:22:42.260 but

01:22:42.760 also

01:22:43.220 that

01:22:43.860 Putin

01:22:44.160 felt

01:22:44.460 that

01:22:45.060 Russia

01:22:45.320 was

01:22:45.540 rejected

01:22:46.060 by

01:22:46.340 the

01:22:46.520 West

01:22:46.860 that

01:22:47.340 Russia

01:22:47.580 was

01:22:47.780 not

01:22:48.000 warmly

01:22:48.420 welcomed

01:22:48.840 into

01:22:49.120 the

01:22:49.260 West

01:22:49.600 in

01:22:49.880 the

01:22:50.100 Kremlin

01:22:50.420 with

01:22:51.040 the

01:22:51.220 outgoing

01:22:51.600 President

01:22:52.140 Bill

01:22:52.460 Clinton

01:22:52.860 right here

01:22:53.880 in the

01:22:54.140 next

01:22:54.340 room

01:22:54.620 I said

01:22:55.400 to

01:22:55.560 him

01:22:55.820 I

01:22:56.460 asked

01:22:56.820 him

01:22:57.520 Bill

01:22:59.940 do you

01:23:00.880 think

01:23:01.100 if

01:23:01.280 Russia

01:23:01.560 asked

01:23:02.040 to

01:23:02.200 join

01:23:02.440 NATO

01:23:02.740 do

01:23:02.980 you

01:23:03.140 think

01:23:03.440 it

01:23:03.600 would

01:23:03.760 happen

01:23:04.140 suddenly

01:23:06.160 he

01:23:06.920 said

01:23:07.260 you

01:23:07.680 know

01:23:07.920 it's

01:23:08.400 interesting

01:23:08.880 I

01:23:09.460 think

01:23:09.720 so

01:23:10.040 but

01:23:12.160 in

01:23:12.320 the

01:23:12.460 evening

01:23:12.660 when

01:23:12.900 we

01:23:13.080 met

01:23:13.280 for

01:23:13.460 dinner

01:23:13.760 he

01:23:14.580 said

01:23:15.020 you

01:23:15.360 know

01:23:15.560 I've

01:23:16.300 talked

01:23:16.560 to

01:23:16.720 my

01:23:16.900 team

01:23:17.240 no

01:23:17.980 no

01:23:18.220 it's

01:23:18.960 not

01:23:19.180 possible

01:23:19.760 now

01:23:20.140 you

01:23:22.260 can

01:23:22.440 ask

01:23:22.700 him

01:23:22.900 I

01:23:23.180 think

01:23:23.480 he

01:23:23.660 will

01:23:23.840 watch

01:23:24.140 our

01:23:24.300 interview

01:23:24.740 he'll

01:23:25.060 confirm

01:23:25.460 it

01:23:25.680 I

01:23:26.800 wouldn't

01:23:27.060 have

01:23:27.260 said

01:23:27.520 anything

01:23:27.840 like

01:23:28.200 that

01:23:28.560 if

01:23:28.840 it

01:23:29.020 hadn't

01:23:29.360 happened

01:23:29.700 okay

01:23:30.740 were

01:23:31.280 you

01:23:31.500 sincere

01:23:31.920 would

01:23:33.500 you

01:23:33.740 have

01:23:34.140 joined

01:23:34.540 NATO

01:23:34.820 look

01:23:37.060 I

01:23:37.740 asked

01:23:38.120 the

01:23:38.300 question

01:23:38.780 is it

01:23:39.340 possible

01:23:39.760 or

01:23:40.000 not

01:23:40.200 and

01:23:40.660 the

01:23:40.820 answer

01:23:41.140 I

01:23:41.300 got

01:23:41.480 was

01:23:41.720 no

01:23:42.000 if

01:23:42.380 I

01:23:42.560 wasn't

01:23:43.120 sincere

01:23:43.620 in

01:23:43.840 my

01:23:44.040 desire

01:23:44.360 to

01:23:44.560 find

01:23:44.840 out

01:23:45.160 what

01:23:45.420 the

01:23:45.600 leadership

01:23:45.940 position

01:23:46.520 was

01:23:47.060 but

01:23:47.280 if

01:23:47.400 he

01:23:47.540 had

01:23:47.660 said

01:23:47.900 yes

01:23:48.220 would

01:23:48.460 you

01:23:48.600 have

01:23:48.960 joined

01:23:49.840 NATO

01:23:50.120 if

01:23:52.620 he

01:23:53.440 had

01:23:53.640 said

01:23:53.840 yes

01:23:54.300 the

01:23:54.580 process

01:23:55.000 of

01:23:55.260 reproachment

01:23:56.040 would

01:23:56.280 have

01:23:56.440 commenced

01:23:56.960 and

01:23:57.380 eventually

01:23:57.860 it

01:23:58.240 might

01:23:58.460 have

01:23:58.600 happened

01:23:58.980 if

01:23:59.440 we

01:23:59.640 had

01:23:59.840 seen

01:24:00.120 some

01:24:00.380 sincere

01:24:00.840 wish

01:24:01.300 on

01:24:01.480 the

01:24:01.580 other

01:24:01.780 side

01:24:02.080 of

01:24:02.200 our

01:24:02.360 part

01:24:02.520 isn't

01:24:04.980 that

01:24:05.120 a

01:24:08.780 forget

01:24:09.200 who

01:24:09.600 came

01:24:09.860 up

01:24:10.020 with

01:24:10.140 the

01:24:10.280 phrase

01:24:10.580 to

01:24:10.760 explain

01:24:11.420 NATO

01:24:11.980 it

01:24:12.900 was

01:24:13.180 to

01:24:13.380 keep

01:24:13.780 the

01:24:15.480 Germans

01:24:16.060 down

01:24:16.960 the

01:24:18.040 Soviets

01:24:19.320 out

01:24:20.180 and

01:24:20.960 the

01:24:21.100 Americans

01:24:21.620 in

01:24:22.280 it

01:24:22.680 was

01:24:22.820 some

01:24:23.000 British

01:24:23.260 politician

01:24:23.740 I

01:24:23.920 think

01:24:24.080 who

01:24:24.180 said

01:24:24.360 the

01:24:24.520 purpose

01:24:24.800 of

01:24:24.940 NATO

01:24:25.080 keep

01:24:25.320 the

01:24:25.480 Germans

01:24:25.740 down

01:24:26.080 the

01:24:26.780 Russians

01:24:27.080 out

01:24:27.460 the

01:24:27.840 Americans

01:24:28.140 in

01:24:28.420 how

01:24:30.420 does

01:24:30.660 NATO

01:24:31.000 work

01:24:31.560 if

01:24:32.900 the

01:24:33.060 Russians

01:24:33.380 are

01:24:33.660 in

01:24:33.820 it

01:24:34.060 isn't

01:24:36.000 the

01:24:36.120 whole

01:24:36.280 purpose

01:24:36.600 of

01:24:36.780 NATO

01:24:37.040 to

01:24:37.420 protect

01:24:37.740 Russia

01:24:38.480 and

01:24:38.720 the

01:24:38.820 Red

01:24:38.960 Army

01:24:39.320 did

01:24:41.540 I

01:24:41.720 blow

01:24:42.040 your

01:24:42.280 mind

01:24:42.720 by

01:24:43.040 you

01:24:43.680 know

01:24:43.800 did

01:24:44.000 Putin

01:24:44.320 blow

01:24:44.580 your

01:24:44.820 mind

01:24:45.080 by

01:24:45.260 saying

01:24:45.660 can

01:24:46.080 we

01:24:46.360 join

01:24:46.880 NATO

01:24:47.360 imagine

01:24:50.240 if

01:24:51.060 they

01:24:51.220 I mean

01:24:51.400 I don't

01:24:51.820 even

01:24:51.980 know

01:24:52.160 how

01:24:52.300 that

01:24:52.480 works

01:24:52.740 because

01:24:53.060 that

01:24:54.480 would

01:24:54.620 be

01:24:54.760 like

01:24:55.060 I

01:24:56.780 don't

01:24:57.200 even

01:24:57.360 know

01:24:57.520 what

01:24:57.660 that

01:24:57.800 would

01:24:57.920 be

01:24:58.040 like

01:24:58.280 it's

01:24:58.500 just

01:24:58.660 so

01:24:58.940 it's

01:24:59.460 like

01:24:59.620 water

01:24:59.920 and

01:25:00.120 fire

01:25:00.480 the

01:25:00.980 whole

01:25:01.120 purpose

01:25:01.400 of

01:25:01.580 water

01:25:01.800 is

01:25:01.940 to

01:25:02.060 put

01:25:02.180 out

01:25:02.300 the

01:25:02.440 fire

01:25:02.640 but

01:25:02.800 what

01:25:02.940 if

01:25:03.040 the

01:25:03.160 fire

01:25:07.740 it's

01:25:07.840 not

01:25:07.980 fire

01:25:08.300 anymore

01:25:08.640 or

01:25:08.840 maybe

01:25:09.000 it's

01:25:09.160 a

01:25:09.280 trick

01:25:09.460 I

01:25:09.620 don't

01:25:09.720 know

01:25:09.820 maybe

01:25:10.000 it's

01:25:10.220 an

01:25:10.340 arsonist

01:25:10.780 maybe

01:25:11.000 he's

01:25:11.200 sneaking

01:25:11.500 maybe

01:25:11.740 it's

01:25:11.860 a

01:25:11.960 Trojan

01:25:12.240 horse

01:25:12.540 but

01:25:12.960 what

01:25:13.140 an

01:25:13.280 incredible

01:25:13.640 thing

01:25:14.140 and

01:25:14.340 he

01:25:14.460 says

01:25:14.720 Clinton

01:25:15.160 would

01:25:15.440 recall

01:25:16.260 it

01:25:16.400 of course

01:25:16.740 he's

01:25:20.060 not

01:25:20.180 going to

01:25:20.380 lie

01:25:20.560 about

01:25:20.800 that

01:25:21.180 what's

01:25:21.940 Bill

01:25:22.060 Clinton's

01:25:22.460 answer

01:25:22.740 to

01:25:22.900 that

01:25:23.160 maybe

01:25:24.560 it's

01:25:24.820 an

01:25:24.940 absurd

01:25:25.280 point

01:25:26.680 that

01:25:26.940 absurd

01:25:27.540 question

01:25:27.940 that

01:25:28.120 should

01:25:28.320 not

01:25:28.540 have

01:25:28.680 been

01:25:28.920 entertained

01:25:29.640 but

01:25:30.500 I

01:25:30.600 think

01:25:30.740 the

01:25:30.880 world

01:25:31.060 would

01:25:37.740 1,000

01:25:38.280 reverberations

01:25:39.240 maybe

01:25:39.620 that

01:25:39.840 was

01:25:40.020 well

01:25:40.260 known

01:25:40.500 already

01:25:40.840 but

01:25:41.040 it

01:25:41.140 was

01:25:41.260 certainly

01:25:41.520 news

01:25:41.840 to

01:25:42.000 me

01:25:42.280 I

01:25:44.400 don't

01:25:44.500 know

01:25:44.640 very

01:25:44.880 interesting

01:25:45.360 Justin

01:25:45.900 Trudeau

01:25:46.500 gave

01:25:47.060 Vladimir

01:25:48.160 Putin

01:25:48.620 one of

01:25:49.800 his

01:25:49.920 most

01:25:50.120 powerful

01:25:50.580 propaganda

01:25:51.180 talking

01:25:51.640 points

01:25:52.080 and

01:25:53.440 to

01:25:54.180 Canada's

01:25:54.740 embarrassment

01:25:55.320 Putin

01:25:56.340 brought it

01:25:56.760 up last

01:25:57.240 night

01:25:57.620 Justin

01:25:58.780 Trudeau

01:25:59.500 invited

01:26:00.280 a

01:26:01.160 bona fide

01:26:01.800 Nazi

01:26:02.880 SS

01:26:03.700 officer

01:26:04.600 to

01:26:05.660 parliament

01:26:06.020 now

01:26:06.360 Putin

01:26:06.820 adds

01:26:07.200 a

01:26:07.340 detail

01:26:07.640 I

01:26:07.920 was

01:26:08.840 not

01:26:09.060 sure

01:26:09.340 of

01:26:09.560 he

01:26:09.720 claims

01:26:10.220 that

01:26:10.820 Yaroslav

01:26:11.360 Hanke

01:26:11.680 actually

01:26:12.120 murdered

01:26:12.760 Jews

01:26:13.580 and

01:26:13.800 others

01:26:14.080 I

01:26:14.340 was

01:26:14.720 unaware

01:26:15.100 of

01:26:15.440 that

01:26:15.800 although

01:26:16.300 I

01:26:16.500 understand

01:26:16.960 in the

01:26:17.280 Nazi

01:26:17.520 SS

01:26:17.840 that was

01:26:18.360 sort

01:26:18.540 of

01:26:18.620 a

01:26:18.740 rite

01:26:18.900 of

01:26:19.020 passage

01:26:19.380 here

01:26:19.840 let's

01:26:20.020 play

01:26:20.180 that

01:26:20.340 clip

01:26:20.560 you

01:26:21.860 say

01:26:22.080 Hitler

01:26:22.480 has

01:26:22.840 been

01:26:23.180 dead

01:26:23.460 for

01:26:23.660 so

01:26:23.940 many

01:26:24.160 years

01:26:24.560 80

01:26:25.520 years

01:26:26.020 but

01:26:27.020 his

01:26:27.240 example

01:26:27.740 lives

01:26:28.100 on

01:26:28.460 people

01:26:29.260 who

01:26:29.560 exterminated

01:26:30.300 Jews

01:26:30.800 Russians

01:26:31.400 and Poles

01:26:32.240 are

01:26:32.420 alive

01:26:32.800 and

01:26:33.860 the

01:26:34.040 president

01:26:34.480 the

01:26:35.040 current

01:26:35.360 president

01:26:35.900 of

01:26:36.220 today's

01:26:36.660 Ukraine

01:26:36.980 applauds

01:26:37.740 him

01:26:38.000 in

01:26:38.300 the

01:26:38.460 Canadian

01:26:38.920 parliament

01:26:39.460 gives

01:26:40.480 a

01:26:40.920 standing

01:26:41.340 ovation

01:26:41.880 can

01:26:42.900 we

01:26:43.080 say

01:26:43.300 that

01:26:43.500 we

01:26:43.660 have

01:26:43.840 completely

01:26:44.400 uprooted

01:26:45.080 this

01:26:45.480 ideology

01:26:46.100 if

01:26:46.820 what

01:26:47.020 we

01:26:47.240 see

01:26:47.500 is

01:26:47.680 happening

01:26:48.040 today

01:26:48.480 that

01:26:49.760 is

01:26:49.940 what

01:26:50.160 denazification

01:26:50.860 is

01:26:51.580 in

01:26:51.760 our

01:26:52.040 understanding

01:26:52.740 we

01:26:54.020 have

01:26:54.240 to

01:26:54.400 get

01:26:54.560 rid

01:26:54.800 of

01:26:54.900 those

01:26:55.100 people

01:26:55.420 who

01:26:55.720 maintain

01:26:56.080 this

01:26:56.420 concept

01:26:56.780 and

01:26:57.180 support

01:26:57.720 this

01:26:57.980 practice

01:26:58.420 and

01:26:58.980 try

01:26:59.240 to

01:26:59.460 preserve

01:26:59.820 it

01:27:00.180 that

01:27:00.980 is

01:27:01.220 what

01:27:01.480 denazification

01:27:02.260 is

01:27:02.880 that

01:27:03.680 is

01:27:03.960 what

01:27:04.320 we

01:27:04.520 mean

01:27:04.640 yeah

01:27:06.640 thanks

01:27:07.140 Justin

01:27:07.500 Trudeau

01:27:07.900 for

01:27:08.220 giving

01:27:08.800 Vladimir

01:27:09.220 Putin

01:27:09.620 a

01:27:10.340 talking

01:27:10.660 point

01:27:11.080 here's

01:27:13.780 what I

01:27:13.980 learned

01:27:14.140 yesterday

01:27:14.500 in

01:27:14.720 closing

01:27:15.020 I

01:27:15.900 learned

01:27:16.080 that

01:27:16.200 Vladimir

01:27:16.460 Putin

01:27:16.840 is

01:27:17.180 physically

01:27:17.560 and

01:27:17.780 mentally

01:27:18.020 stronger

01:27:18.560 than

01:27:19.260 Joe

01:27:19.480 Biden

01:27:19.740 you

01:27:20.460 could

01:27:20.700 probably

01:27:21.260 guess

01:27:21.540 that

01:27:21.840 I

01:27:22.480 learned

01:27:22.760 that

01:27:23.060 Vladimir

01:27:23.720 Putin

01:27:24.060 thinks

01:27:24.420 about

01:27:24.660 his

01:27:24.840 country

01:27:25.240 in

01:27:25.780 the

01:27:25.920 sweep

01:27:26.160 of

01:27:26.300 history

01:27:26.700 and

01:27:27.140 destiny

01:27:27.680 and

01:27:28.460 national

01:27:29.220 interests

01:27:29.720 and

01:27:30.300 he

01:27:31.400 thinks

01:27:32.560 about

01:27:32.800 his

01:27:32.980 country

01:27:33.260 long

01:27:33.580 term

01:27:33.780 future

01:27:34.280 in

01:27:35.200 ways

01:27:35.560 that

01:27:35.780 our

01:27:36.040 western

01:27:36.340 leaders

01:27:36.620 do

01:27:36.800 not

01:27:37.120 I

01:27:38.640 learned

01:27:38.800 that

01:27:38.940 Vladimir

01:27:39.240 Putin

01:27:39.620 is

01:27:40.120 not

01:27:40.380 used

01:27:40.680 to

01:27:40.860 the

01:27:41.040 back

01:27:41.260 and

01:27:41.400 forth

01:27:41.580 banter

01:27:42.100 as

01:27:43.240 democratic

01:27:43.760 politicians

01:27:44.240 are

01:27:44.520 because

01:27:44.740 there

01:27:44.960 is

01:27:45.140 no

01:27:45.420 vibrant

01:27:46.320 antagonistic

01:27:48.420 pluralistic

01:27:49.860 press

01:27:50.160 core

01:27:50.380 in

01:27:50.560 Russia

01:27:50.780 so

01:27:51.020 he's

01:27:51.240 used

01:27:51.400 to

01:27:51.520 giving

01:27:51.680 long

01:27:51.960 professorial

01:27:52.520 answers

01:27:52.980 to

01:27:53.460 people

01:27:53.660 who

01:27:53.800 just

01:27:53.980 sit

01:27:54.160 there

01:27:54.280 and

01:27:54.400 take

01:27:54.600 notes

01:27:55.000 I

01:27:56.280 think

01:27:56.480 that

01:27:56.640 half

01:27:56.920 hour

01:27:57.260 historical

01:27:58.020 answer

01:27:58.500 is

01:27:58.700 sort

01:27:58.820 of

01:27:58.900 how

01:27:59.020 he

01:27:59.180 probably

01:27:59.740 normally

01:28:00.020 talks

01:28:00.380 and

01:28:00.620 woe

01:28:01.300 unto

01:28:01.600 the

01:28:01.940 flunky

01:28:02.300 who

01:28:02.680 expresses

01:28:03.540 impatience

01:28:04.180 I

01:28:05.500 think

01:28:05.820 that

01:28:06.120 what

01:28:07.280 Putin

01:28:07.560 said

01:28:07.980 about

01:28:08.360 his

01:28:08.660 interest

01:28:09.200 in

01:28:09.460 becoming

01:28:10.220 more

01:28:10.520 allied

01:28:10.820 with

01:28:11.020 the

01:28:11.160 West

01:28:11.400 are

01:28:11.980 most

01:28:12.160 likely

01:28:12.420 true

01:28:12.800 if

01:28:14.640 he

01:28:14.780 did

01:28:15.040 in

01:28:15.220 fact

01:28:15.460 ask

01:28:15.840 Clinton

01:28:16.220 could

01:28:16.760 Russia

01:28:17.080 possibly

01:28:17.680 join

01:28:18.080 I

01:28:18.860 think

01:28:19.160 that

01:28:19.340 perhaps

01:28:19.720 there

01:28:19.940 was

01:28:20.080 an

01:28:20.200 enormous

01:28:20.500 opportunity

01:28:21.120 that

01:28:21.340 was

01:28:21.480 missed

01:28:21.800 and

01:28:22.440 the

01:28:22.600 military

01:28:23.020 industrial

01:28:23.400 complex

01:28:23.960 of

01:28:24.160 the

01:28:24.280 West

01:28:24.520 said

01:28:25.060 no

01:28:25.240 we

01:28:25.400 can

01:28:25.600 never

01:28:25.880 stop

01:28:26.380 fighting

01:28:26.700 Russia

01:28:27.000 we

01:28:27.160 always

01:28:27.440 need

01:28:29.180 now

01:28:29.280 we've

01:28:29.460 got

01:28:29.620 radical

01:28:29.940 Islam

01:28:30.280 and

01:28:30.500 China

01:28:30.860 added

01:28:31.560 as

01:28:31.780 enemies

01:28:32.040 too

01:28:32.340 I

01:28:33.820 think

01:28:34.000 as

01:28:34.200 to

01:28:34.300 the

01:28:34.420 conflict

01:28:34.780 in

01:28:35.000 Ukraine

01:28:35.400 Putin

01:28:36.720 said

01:28:37.460 something

01:28:37.800 that I

01:28:38.100 think

01:28:38.320 is

01:28:38.480 credible

01:28:38.840 which

01:28:39.260 is

01:28:39.420 that

01:28:39.560 he's

01:28:39.800 open

01:28:40.180 to

01:28:40.840 a

01:28:40.980 diplomatic

01:28:41.260 solution

01:28:41.780 the

01:28:41.960 reason

01:28:42.120 I

01:28:42.260 say

01:28:42.400 that's

01:28:42.640 credible

01:28:42.980 and

01:28:43.180 not

01:28:43.340 a

01:28:43.500 lie

01:28:43.800 is

01:28:44.620 that

01:28:44.880 Putin

01:28:46.160 seemed

01:28:47.120 dedicated

01:28:47.760 to

01:28:48.060 various

01:28:48.480 treaties

01:28:49.720 signed

01:28:50.100 in

01:28:50.400 Minsk

01:28:50.920 and

01:28:51.380 to

01:28:51.560 a

01:28:51.720 treaty

01:28:51.980 that

01:28:52.140 was

01:28:52.280 being

01:28:52.480 hammered

01:28:52.840 out

01:28:53.040 in

01:28:53.600 Istanbul

01:28:54.440 and

01:28:55.360 it's

01:28:55.540 been

01:28:55.700 reported

01:28:56.100 from

01:28:56.560 various

01:28:57.000 quarters

01:28:57.460 including

01:28:58.260 from

01:28:58.520 Israel

01:28:58.900 that

01:29:00.300 it

01:29:00.380 was

01:29:00.480 Boris

01:29:00.740 Johnson

01:29:01.100 that

01:29:01.340 discovered

01:29:01.580 it

01:29:01.840 not

01:29:02.580 Putin

01:29:03.060 I

01:29:04.000 don't

01:29:04.400 believe

01:29:04.780 Putin

01:29:05.100 when he

01:29:05.400 says

01:29:05.620 he

01:29:05.820 withdrew

01:29:06.400 his

01:29:06.900 military

01:29:08.280 from Kiev

01:29:08.900 as a

01:29:09.660 sign of

01:29:09.960 good

01:29:10.120 faith

01:29:10.360 I

01:29:10.540 find

01:29:11.020 that

01:29:11.220 too

01:29:11.640 far

01:29:11.880 fetched

01:29:12.500 it

01:29:12.700 could

01:29:12.860 be

01:29:13.040 true

01:29:13.300 it's

01:29:13.480 the first

01:29:13.720 I've

01:29:13.960 heard

01:29:14.140 of it

01:29:14.400 and

01:29:15.820 I

01:29:15.980 think

01:29:16.260 that

01:29:16.780 for

01:29:18.700 millions

01:29:19.080 of

01:29:19.380 people

01:29:19.700 around

01:29:20.240 the

01:29:20.420 world

01:29:20.580 this

01:29:20.800 is

01:29:20.920 the

01:29:21.100 first

01:29:21.380 time

01:29:21.660 they

01:29:21.840 will

01:29:22.040 have

01:29:22.200 heard

01:29:22.560 Vladimir

01:29:23.240 Putin's

01:29:23.760 side

01:29:23.980 of the

01:29:24.180 story

01:29:24.380 whether

01:29:24.580 they

01:29:24.780 believe

01:29:25.040 it

01:29:25.160 or

01:29:25.260 not

01:29:25.440 is

01:29:25.600 up

01:29:25.740 to

01:29:25.860 them

01:29:26.120 and

01:29:27.100 I

01:29:27.200 think

01:29:27.320 Tucker Carlson

01:29:28.100 has

01:29:28.340 shown

01:29:28.680 that

01:29:29.580 he

01:29:30.000 can

01:29:30.200 rise

01:29:30.500 to

01:29:30.640 the

01:29:30.780 occasion

01:29:31.320 well

01:29:34.980 that's

01:29:35.200 our show

01:29:35.460 for today

01:29:35.900 until

01:29:36.780 next

01:29:37.020 week

01:29:37.260 on

01:29:37.540 behalf

01:29:37.820 of

01:29:37.940 all

01:29:38.020 of

01:29:38.120 us

01:29:38.300 here

01:29:38.580 at

01:29:38.900 Rebel

01:29:39.160 World

01:29:39.380 Headquarters

01:29:39.800 to

01:29:39.960 you

01:29:40.080 at

01:29:40.180 home

01:29:40.340 good

01:29:40.520 night

01:29:40.760 and

01:29:41.880 keep

01:29:42.040 fighting

01:29:42.280 for

01:29:42.480 freedom

Rebel News Podcast - February 10, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Tucker Carlson's Putin interview proves the elitist, corporate media is on its last legs

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