Tamara Leach is on trial in the Federal Court of Justice of Canada facing six charges of mischief for her role in a protest that took place in downtown Ottawa, Canada on Nov. 19, 2014. The charge carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a fine of $5,000.
00:08:30.520No, there was a knee-jerk reaction there on the part of the government, this to Mosley's decision, which I think is most unfortunate.
00:08:40.420You know, I don't know the kind of thinking that Court of Appeal judges would have, but reading Mosley's ruling, he basically telegraphs that he was antipathetic towards the truckers.
00:08:53.340He was sympathetic to those who wanted to hit him hard, but through the trial, he learned about the violations of civil liberties.
00:09:01.660What I liked him, it actually felt a little bit too chatty and personable to me, but what was interesting is he was saying, look, I actually didn't start off in the side of the truckers, guys, which I thought that was an interesting message that he was telegraphed.
00:09:15.000Did you pick that up at all, or am I reading things in?
00:09:16.820No, I think he was being very honest and very forthright, and you often don't see that kind of personal opinion or personal mindset.
00:09:30.840You don't see that expressed by judges, but Justice Mosley is a former Crown Attorney.
00:09:37.560He is a longtime federal court judge, very, very experienced, and he was being just very forthright by saying, look, this is how I came into it, and despite that, here's what happened, and here's what shouldn't have happened as a reaction by the government.
00:09:56.900Let's come back to the Tamera Leach trial.
00:09:58.840It's one that our viewers care about a lot.
00:10:02.260Rebel News published her autobiography, which was a real hit, even though it got zero press coverage and zero reviews by the mainstream media, which surprises me.
00:10:12.060I mean, the trucker convoy was obviously the biggest story of the year in 2022, obviously.
00:10:19.900Tamera Leach was the figurehead of it and the spiritual leader, and I like to say, in so many ways.
00:10:25.680You would think they would review that book to trash it, to criticize it, even if they didn't review it at all, but it was as if it never happened.
00:11:06.320It gave me a real insight as to who she is and, more importantly, why she is, why she's fighting, why she doesn't even own a truck.
00:11:18.860What was she doing trying to assist the various demonstrators by getting them, you know, provisions so that they could carry out their peaceful protest?
00:11:34.860What, you know, how did she come to that point?
00:11:37.900It's an insightful look into how a very ordinary person can be thrust into a position where they can actually try and make a difference.
00:11:54.360And what happens to them when they try and make a difference is really a sad, it's a sad comment on where we've come.
00:12:02.720I mean, she's already spent 50 days in jail for what is essentially a mischief charge.
00:12:09.500Yeah, the people downtown were subject to horns blowing all kinds of, but there was an injunction within seven days that stopped that.
00:12:24.160And the evidence has come out in our trial that it stopped after seven days.
00:12:29.320So, so why, why, why go after somebody like Tamara or Chris Barber, for that matter, in this way and to this extent?
00:12:40.120It really, it saddens me to try and think of the motivation behind this prosecution.
00:12:46.440You know, just one more quick comment on Tamara's personality.
00:13:28.760You know, on that, I, I, years ago, I had the, the opportunity to become friends with Ruben Hurricane Carter.
00:13:35.900And at one point, one point he was staying downstairs in our house and we had Joyce Milgaard on the, on the upper level.
00:13:43.460We were running a house for the wrongfully convicted.
00:13:47.440Um, but the thing that impressed me the most about Ruben was just that here's a man who spent 18 years in custody for a murder he didn't commit.
00:13:56.760And yet his disposition, his approach to life and his smile, uh, despite all he'd been through was really quite inspirational.
00:14:07.120And I, I see, uh, you know, I see at least some of that in, in Tamara, you know, uh, she's, I see the way she, she greets, uh, support.
00:15:15.840And in the end, uh, a document that the crown should have disclosed earlier came to light and the whole case was dropped.
00:15:22.280And it, and it, they were trying to disgrace a great military man.
00:15:27.140And in fact, if anything, it vindicated him.
00:15:30.240And the reason I mentioned that is because I think being, I can only imagine what it must have been like to be the judge in a trial that was so great, had so much gravity.
00:15:39.640And then you find out that the federal government was a trickster or at least didn't live up to its duty.
00:15:46.280And I, and part of me thinks, I wonder if the lessons of vice admiral Mark, Mark Norman's trial, if she can see in this prosecution of Tamara Leach shenanigans,
00:15:58.660turning a two day matter into a 50 day matter over like, this is not a proper apportionment of prosecutorial resources.
00:16:09.400There's a huge backlog in the courts of serious matters and they're throwing everything at Tamara Leach.
00:16:15.220It feels like a second round of a political stitch up.
00:16:30.020Uh, she has, uh, presided over this, uh, with great interest.
00:16:35.940Um, and if she's had any questions at all at any point along the way, uh, she hasn't been hesitant to, uh, to get involved, uh, to make shame.
00:16:45.660And, and, and all the way, all the while she's been saying, you know, let's move forward, let's move forward on it.
00:16:51.980And let's, you know, get back on track.
00:16:54.760And, uh, it, it's, uh, it's not been an easy, uh, it's not been an easy job for her for sure.
00:17:00.460I think I sat there for one day and then I said, Robert Krejcik, you take over, I can't take any more of this.
00:17:05.660The day I sat there was with some city bureaucrat who very early in his testimony said he had never met, spoken with, communicated, or had any observation whatsoever of anything Tamara Leach had done.
00:17:16.700Um, and now let me talk for eight hours about my feelings about the lockdown and my feelings about the convoy.
00:17:22.600Like it was, it was a therapy session for a government bureaucrat.
00:17:27.620And, and, and something you said very quickly at the beginning of our conversation, which is actually stunning.
00:17:35.000You say you haven't decided whether or not to mount a defense as in every single minute of this trial so far has been the prosecution's case.
00:17:42.500You have not actually made a case yet.
00:17:45.160You've challenged and you've objected and you've cross-examined, but Tamara Leach has not testified yet.
00:17:50.520And, and from what I understand, you're saying, she may never testify.
00:18:16.980Listen, you've been very generous with your time.
00:18:18.540I'd like to broaden the scope just a little bit.
00:18:21.160I, um, it's, it's a slightly political question, but it's also a legal question.
00:18:26.900It's a public sphere question, but I think, I think you straddle those things.
00:18:30.200I mean, even just mentioning the Milgard case and the Rubin Hurricane Carter case, these are political cases that touch on public policy.
00:18:37.720It's not just criminal law and the law seeps into everything.
00:18:41.380I think, I think it's good to know the law, even as a layman, to study the law, even as an amateur layman, um, because it affects everything we do.
00:18:48.900And it's my view that whatever you thought of the vaccine, put that aside.
00:18:54.760For a period of time, our entire system failed.
00:19:00.240The opposition parties didn't really oppose.
00:19:02.760The media ceased being skeptical and critical and in many ways became hired propagandists.
00:19:07.560And I don't say that as an insult, they say this as an observation.
00:19:09.860They took funds, both from Pfizer and from the government.
00:19:14.000Uh, university professors who normally are canaries in the coal mine for violated rights, they never stopped writing letters for Omar Khadr, were silent when we had charter violations en masse.
00:19:26.720Doctors, doctors at the College of Physicians and Surgeons, silenced doctors who had a second opinion.