Rebel News Podcast - October 27, 2022


EZRA LEVANT ｜ US midterm elections： How bad is Biden going to blow it？


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

168.4116

Word Count

8,563

Sentence Count

495

Misogynist Sentences

21

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

With less than two weeks to go to the mid-term elections, the question is: Is Joe Biden going to deliver on his promise to take on Donald Trump in 2020? And if he does, will it be enough to swing the midterms in favor of the Republican Party? Ezra talks with Joel Pollack, editor-at-large at Breitbart, to find out.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, less than two weeks to the U.S. midterm elections.
00:00:04.040 How bad is Biden going to blow it?
00:00:07.080 It's October 27th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:09.780 You're fighting for freedom!
00:00:12.660 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:00:24.480 Well, it is less than two weeks from now
00:00:27.420 that the United States will have its midterm elections.
00:00:30.000 You know what those are.
00:00:30.980 The entire House of Representatives, that's the Congress,
00:00:33.860 is up for re-election as they are every two years.
00:00:36.200 A third of the important Senate are up for grabs.
00:00:39.700 And, of course, the whole thing is a form of proxy vote
00:00:43.140 on the President of the United States.
00:00:45.180 He is not at the ballot box until two years from now,
00:00:48.460 if he does indeed run.
00:00:50.660 Of course, there are other races at the state level.
00:00:54.000 A lot of the governors are up for grabs.
00:00:56.120 Our favorite guy, Ron DeSantis, is in a battle.
00:01:00.560 Let's talk about this because I think there is a lot of momentum these days
00:01:05.580 that suggests the Republicans might do very well.
00:01:08.920 I've never seen polling that looks so bad for the Democrats.
00:01:13.520 I took you through that New York Times poll before,
00:01:15.980 showing you the shocking numbers of Americans
00:01:18.120 who feel the country is on the wrong track
00:01:20.660 and who incredibly think the media is the threat to democracy.
00:01:24.260 Joining us now to help us talk about this
00:01:26.020 is our dear friend Joel Pollack,
00:01:28.440 the editor-at-large at Breitbart.com.
00:01:31.380 Well, what a pleasure to see you, Joel.
00:01:33.160 There's so much going on, and you're the right guy to talk to you.
00:01:35.520 You have a bit of a specialty following the Democrats,
00:01:38.820 even though you're a more Republican-leaning guy.
00:01:41.280 What's the state of play less than two weeks to go?
00:01:44.800 We are witnessing a surge in Republican support
00:01:48.420 as we get closer to Election Day
00:01:50.640 and a corresponding collapse in the Democratic Party's support
00:01:55.700 and chaos in its messaging.
00:01:59.180 The turning point seems to have been around late August, early September,
00:02:02.840 and I would suggest that Joe Biden's primetime address on September 1st,
00:02:08.560 in which he declared that quote-unquote MAGA Republicans
00:02:12.040 were a threat to the country, was a key moment,
00:02:15.920 not because it frightened many Americans
00:02:18.680 into thinking that their civil liberties were in danger,
00:02:21.400 although it certainly did feel that way to those of us on the right,
00:02:24.880 but it told Americans that the president of the country
00:02:27.940 was not that interested in the things they care about.
00:02:31.640 He was more interested in politics.
00:02:33.620 He was more interested in things going on in Washington,
00:02:36.080 and he was not talking about inflation.
00:02:39.660 He wasn't talking about gas prices.
00:02:41.440 He wasn't talking about crime.
00:02:43.460 He did mention a couple of his accomplishments in that speech,
00:02:46.540 but that wasn't the purpose of the speech.
00:02:48.340 The purpose of the speech was to demonize opposition,
00:02:50.560 and he left an open space, a vacuum, really,
00:02:56.340 in which Republicans were the only ones talking about
00:02:59.240 bread-and-butter kitchen table issues.
00:03:01.060 So Democrats started losing momentum,
00:03:03.680 and what's happened in the last couple of weeks or so
00:03:07.040 is that as Republicans have started to feel
00:03:11.640 that victory is within their grasp,
00:03:13.680 they have surged even more.
00:03:15.680 It's almost as if voters are choosing to side with the winner
00:03:18.980 because it feels good not just to be on the winning team,
00:03:22.000 but also to send a very clear message,
00:03:24.520 and independent voters, as well as Republicans,
00:03:27.040 know exactly what that message is,
00:03:28.580 which is that wokeness has failed as a governing policy
00:03:32.860 and that Americans want a return to common sense,
00:03:36.500 whether Democrats or Republicans are in charge.
00:03:39.360 You know, it's funny you say that wokeness has failed.
00:03:41.520 Just over the last couple of weeks in Canada,
00:03:43.840 we've seen the same thing.
00:03:45.260 And I know Canada and the United States are very,
00:03:46.920 very different,
00:03:47.340 but there is sort of a continental consciousness.
00:03:50.320 We follow American news media.
00:03:52.600 We're subject to the same cultural tides.
00:03:54.960 In Vancouver, left-wing city analogous to San Francisco or Seattle,
00:03:59.960 the woke incumbent was thrown out for a pro-police successor.
00:04:05.180 Just this week in Ottawa,
00:04:07.420 a non-binary woke candidate was trounced by a moderate.
00:04:13.080 I think that wokeness has gone so far.
00:04:16.100 And take a look at this.
00:04:16.720 This is a video just the other day.
00:04:19.300 Here we are, two weeks to go.
00:04:22.180 Oil prices, inflation, all sorts of crises.
00:04:25.500 And Joe Biden's sitting down with a transgender activist
00:04:29.760 talking about how he feels to be a girl
00:04:32.240 and how he would,
00:04:34.780 how he thinks that it's a human right for children
00:04:37.440 to have surgery or puberty blockers.
00:04:40.360 Just a quick clip of that.
00:04:41.620 Take a look.
00:04:42.320 Thank you.
00:04:42.720 And it feels like Republicans have turned trans and non-binary people
00:04:47.240 into this thing to blame society's downfall on in some ways.
00:04:51.980 And this narrative is not only dangerous to our mental health,
00:04:55.280 but also our physical safety
00:04:56.640 and particularly trans women of color
00:04:59.000 are being murdered at an alarming rate.
00:05:01.200 More than any other group of people.
00:05:03.060 Thank you.
00:05:03.880 How can democratic leaders be more effective
00:05:06.620 in advocating for us trans people
00:05:09.120 in our families, in our lives, in our opportunities?
00:05:12.580 I'm not being facetious when I say this,
00:05:14.380 being seen with people like you.
00:05:16.520 No, I mean it.
00:05:17.780 I genuinely mean it.
00:05:19.460 People fear what they don't know.
00:05:22.080 They fear what they don't know.
00:05:23.320 And when people realize, individuals realize,
00:05:27.740 oh, this is what they're telling me to be frightened of?
00:05:32.040 This is the problem?
00:05:33.400 This is, I mean, people change their minds.
00:05:36.420 People are just, don't know enough to know.
00:05:40.260 And it's not because of intellectual incapability,
00:05:43.780 it's just lack of exposure.
00:05:45.060 And I think that it's really important
00:05:48.720 that we continue to speak out
00:05:51.720 about the basic fundamental rights of all human beings.
00:05:55.460 And the idea, the idea that what's going on,
00:05:59.000 you know, in some states,
00:06:01.620 I won't get into the politics of it,
00:06:03.440 but in some states, it's just, it's outrageous.
00:06:06.400 And I think it's immoral.
00:06:09.400 The trans part's not immoral.
00:06:12.060 What they're trying to do to trans persons is immoral.
00:06:16.480 Thank you.
00:06:17.520 And do you have any messages
00:06:19.040 to the families of trans folks
00:06:21.520 that are seeking, you know, options for their children,
00:06:26.020 but are struggling to find resources?
00:06:28.200 Do you have a message to those parents?
00:06:29.420 Yeah, I do.
00:06:32.860 This is blood of your blood, bone of your bone.
00:06:36.800 And it is, again, speaking to my son,
00:06:43.560 when he was, he was, spent a year in Iraq
00:06:46.760 and he was a decorated soldier.
00:06:49.480 He volunteered to go.
00:06:50.880 He had to give up the attorney general's job
00:06:52.700 and then came back to it.
00:06:54.380 And he started a foundation.
00:06:58.320 I'm not allowed to talk about now
00:06:59.800 because I can't raise money for it any longer.
00:07:02.080 But it was for abused children.
00:07:04.840 And one of the things he did,
00:07:06.640 he's raised millions of dollars, this organization,
00:07:09.360 to basically educate parents
00:07:11.960 as to what they should not be afraid of
00:07:15.180 and to educate the community
00:07:18.240 as to what is just pure hyperbole.
00:07:25.080 And so I just think it's a matter of leaders speaking out
00:07:31.740 and saying, as I told you,
00:07:34.940 I mentioned a young woman who used to be in his staff,
00:07:37.920 used to be in my staff,
00:07:39.600 who is now a state senator.
00:07:42.560 A number, and she's trans,
00:07:44.820 and she's, you know, a state senator in the state of Delaware
00:07:48.160 in an area that was historically very conservative,
00:07:51.580 the part of Delaware.
00:07:52.980 And she's running unopposed this time.
00:07:56.480 So things are changing.
00:07:58.620 Things are changing.
00:07:59.580 But it's a matter of us acknowledging
00:08:01.860 that there's nothing to be,
00:08:04.360 just because it's different,
00:08:05.600 there's nothing to be fearful about.
00:08:07.380 Substance of that.
00:08:08.300 The fact that he's choosing to go woke
00:08:11.380 in the dozen days before the election,
00:08:14.000 is that on purpose?
00:08:15.880 Was that an accident?
00:08:17.060 Is he trying to stir up his base?
00:08:19.120 Why would he do that?
00:08:21.080 The entire Democratic Party midterm campaign strategy
00:08:24.180 is aimed at the progressive base of the party.
00:08:27.960 That means they're emphasizing issues
00:08:30.100 like abortion and race,
00:08:32.920 and they're emphasizing issues like transgenderism.
00:08:37.160 The percentage of Americans
00:08:38.640 who identify as transgender is very, very small.
00:08:41.900 Probably a broader percentage,
00:08:44.660 primarily among Democrats,
00:08:46.660 identifies generally with the sense
00:08:48.940 that transgender rights are a form of civil rights.
00:08:51.840 But there are also many people
00:08:53.960 on the conservative side,
00:08:55.560 probably more people as a percentage of the population,
00:08:58.560 who feel that the crusade for transgender rights
00:09:02.140 has gone too far.
00:09:03.560 It's begun to trample women's rights,
00:09:05.220 and it's begun to harm children.
00:09:08.000 You saw this come up in the debate earlier this week
00:09:11.540 between Governor Ron DeSantis
00:09:13.040 and former Governor Charlie Crist.
00:09:14.920 Charlie Crist used to be a Republican,
00:09:16.740 became a Democrat,
00:09:18.100 and is now challenging Ron DeSantis
00:09:19.760 for his old job back,
00:09:21.520 not so much as a serious candidate,
00:09:23.080 but as a kind of professional troll
00:09:24.680 to rough DeSantis up
00:09:25.880 before he decides to run for president someday.
00:09:28.740 But Charlie Crist accused Ron DeSantis
00:09:31.180 of abusing LGBTQ people,
00:09:33.860 and Ron DeSantis pointed out in rebuttal
00:09:36.340 that it's illegal in Florida
00:09:38.160 for 15-year-olds to get tattoos,
00:09:40.400 but Charlie Crist wants to encourage them
00:09:42.640 to be able to get double mastectomies.
00:09:45.100 And that's the absurdity
00:09:46.660 that is striking many Americans,
00:09:48.320 particularly parents,
00:09:49.480 who feel that the schools
00:09:51.020 are indoctrinating their kids,
00:09:52.500 not just with transgender ideology,
00:09:54.420 but in general.
00:09:55.620 There's a sense that the Democratic Party
00:09:57.600 doesn't understand
00:09:59.460 what the needs of American families are today,
00:10:01.840 and that nevertheless,
00:10:03.500 when they're in government,
00:10:04.300 the Democrats don't want to let parents
00:10:06.360 control anything.
00:10:07.220 They don't want to let communities
00:10:08.220 control anything.
00:10:09.420 They want to control things
00:10:10.840 according to the ideological dictates
00:10:12.800 of their own party.
00:10:14.500 And so Americans are pushing back
00:10:17.160 in a very big way.
00:10:18.540 It's not just in a national way.
00:10:21.660 It's also, as you pointed out
00:10:23.200 in Canadian examples,
00:10:24.140 it's at the municipal level.
00:10:25.400 There are contests
00:10:26.780 such as right here in Los Angeles,
00:10:28.440 where a woke Democratic favorite,
00:10:31.720 Karen Bass,
00:10:32.480 who was leading by double digits
00:10:34.460 in early October,
00:10:35.760 is now behind in the latest poll
00:10:37.540 to moderate Democrat Rick Caruso,
00:10:40.640 who's a billionaire developer.
00:10:41.980 He's carpet bombing the airwaves
00:10:44.300 with advertisements,
00:10:45.360 and so he's outspending his rival.
00:10:47.820 But he's also bringing a message
00:10:49.720 that the city has to get back
00:10:51.300 to fighting crime,
00:10:52.680 getting homeless people off the streets,
00:10:54.860 and making L.A. the nice place
00:10:56.880 it has been until recently,
00:10:59.040 whereas Karen Bass is promising
00:11:00.540 business as usual more of the same.
00:11:02.520 She herself was a victim of crime.
00:11:04.100 A few weeks ago,
00:11:05.120 her home was burglarized,
00:11:06.920 and the thieves stole her guns.
00:11:09.480 Imagine that,
00:11:10.180 a left-wing progressive
00:11:11.200 Democratic Party candidate
00:11:12.640 with guns in her home.
00:11:14.160 We don't really know very much
00:11:15.340 about why she had those guns
00:11:16.680 or what the guns were,
00:11:17.700 but in any event,
00:11:19.280 she went from proclaiming
00:11:21.160 in the spring
00:11:21.660 that she felt perfectly safe
00:11:23.080 in Los Angeles
00:11:23.840 to explaining to voters
00:11:25.740 that she now finally understood
00:11:27.240 why they feel unsafe
00:11:28.900 in the city of Los Angeles.
00:11:30.620 Wokeness,
00:11:31.280 Black Lives Matter,
00:11:32.220 transgenderism,
00:11:33.300 these are all tremendous problems
00:11:36.180 for the Democratic Party,
00:11:37.260 but they are unable
00:11:38.240 to extricate themselves
00:11:39.320 from these ideological anvils.
00:11:42.080 And so Republicans
00:11:42.980 are gaining in places
00:11:44.760 where Republicans
00:11:45.820 weren't even competitive
00:11:46.900 until a very short time ago.
00:11:48.700 We're even seeing Senate races
00:11:50.380 like the race against incumbent
00:11:52.000 Dick Blumenthal in Connecticut
00:11:53.580 start to look like
00:11:54.740 a competitive race
00:11:55.660 where the Republican,
00:11:57.000 who's a Cuban-Jewish immigrant
00:11:58.700 named Leora Levy,
00:12:00.140 is gaining on him.
00:12:01.720 And I think the race
00:12:02.380 is now in the low single digits
00:12:04.340 in terms of the gap
00:12:05.260 between Blumenthal and Levy.
00:12:06.920 This momentum is continuing.
00:12:09.080 Joe Biden said a few days
00:12:10.760 before the two-week deadline
00:12:13.700 that he expected polls
00:12:16.260 to swing back
00:12:17.020 in the Democrats' direction
00:12:18.200 before Election Day.
00:12:19.440 That could happen
00:12:20.380 to some extent
00:12:21.060 as voters start to feel
00:12:23.040 a little bit of premature
00:12:24.060 buyer's remorse, let's say.
00:12:25.660 I mean, you always feel
00:12:26.460 a little bit worse
00:12:27.140 about the party you've elected
00:12:28.240 once they have responsibility.
00:12:29.620 So maybe people will start
00:12:30.480 to look at these Republican candidates
00:12:32.380 now that they look like
00:12:33.580 they're going to win
00:12:34.560 in many places.
00:12:35.700 And they might start to say,
00:12:36.520 well, wait a minute,
00:12:36.980 what do these people stand for?
00:12:38.440 But the problem for Joe Biden
00:12:39.680 is that his party
00:12:41.040 has imposed vote-by-mail
00:12:43.040 across the nation,
00:12:44.280 which means that millions of ballots
00:12:46.160 have already been cast.
00:12:47.800 And so if you have second thoughts
00:12:49.000 about the Republican you voted for,
00:12:50.820 it's too late.
00:12:51.680 So Democrats are hoist
00:12:53.340 by their own petard now.
00:12:54.480 Vote-by-mail could work against them
00:12:56.300 if there is something like a return
00:12:58.180 back toward the Democrats.
00:12:59.640 But I don't think there will be.
00:13:01.060 Republicans are experiencing
00:13:02.100 a surge of confidence
00:13:03.140 unlike anything we've seen.
00:13:04.980 I have to say
00:13:06.060 it's actually more confident
00:13:08.960 in the Republican camp
00:13:10.220 than it was even in 2010
00:13:11.880 when there was that Tea Party
00:13:13.100 wave election.
00:13:14.500 And I want to explain why
00:13:15.720 very briefly if I could
00:13:16.760 as I finish my answer here.
00:13:17.820 In 2010, there were a number
00:13:20.260 of very weak
00:13:21.380 Republican Senate candidates.
00:13:23.240 Maybe the candidates
00:13:23.880 themselves weren't so bad,
00:13:25.520 but they were brought down
00:13:26.800 by controversies
00:13:27.900 that the media
00:13:28.500 were able to amplify.
00:13:30.340 In 2022, up until August,
00:13:32.300 we were told
00:13:33.020 that the same thing
00:13:33.700 was happening.
00:13:34.320 The Republicans had nominated
00:13:35.480 a bunch of losery candidates
00:13:36.980 in a lot of these Senate races.
00:13:39.340 And Democrats were actually
00:13:40.260 spending millions of dollars
00:13:42.000 on Republican primaries
00:13:43.820 to make sure that
00:13:44.740 the pro-Trump candidate,
00:13:46.400 the MAGA Republican candidate,
00:13:48.260 emerged as the victor
00:13:49.300 because they thought
00:13:50.000 these right-wing candidates,
00:13:52.220 these crazies,
00:13:53.380 these deplorables,
00:13:54.240 would be easier
00:13:54.920 for Democrats to beat.
00:13:56.600 But what has happened
00:13:57.900 as voters have started
00:13:59.540 to tune into these races
00:14:00.620 is that they've looked
00:14:01.980 at the Democratic candidates
00:14:03.200 and the Democrats
00:14:03.980 aren't so good.
00:14:05.100 And worse,
00:14:05.960 they are tied to Joe Biden
00:14:07.700 and his agenda.
00:14:08.600 There are no Democrats
00:14:09.600 who've made any sort of
00:14:10.880 real independent stance,
00:14:12.460 aside from Kyrsten Sinema
00:14:13.580 in Arizona,
00:14:14.180 who's not up for re-election
00:14:15.140 this year.
00:14:15.500 Nobody has really
00:14:16.800 tried to make a career
00:14:18.120 out of objecting to
00:14:19.360 or dissenting from
00:14:20.120 the Biden agenda.
00:14:21.020 And so all of these Democrats,
00:14:22.860 whether they're good
00:14:23.440 or bad candidates,
00:14:24.240 are tied to Joe Biden.
00:14:25.600 So the Republican candidates
00:14:27.580 who were once thought
00:14:28.340 to be weak or too extreme
00:14:29.600 and so forth
00:14:30.160 are now being looked at
00:14:31.800 by voters
00:14:32.300 as a better alternative
00:14:33.820 than the woke,
00:14:35.960 left-wing,
00:14:36.720 incompetent,
00:14:37.720 and Joe Biden-associated
00:14:39.440 candidates
00:14:40.060 that the Democratic Party
00:14:41.360 has put up.
00:14:42.000 So the candidates'
00:14:44.260 weaknesses
00:14:44.700 are not the same
00:14:46.940 potent argument
00:14:47.800 for Democrats
00:14:48.380 that they were in 2010.
00:14:49.820 That's also because
00:14:50.420 of conservative media.
00:14:52.000 There's now a much
00:14:52.680 greater ability
00:14:54.100 to push back
00:14:54.920 against some of these
00:14:55.520 media narratives.
00:14:57.080 Carrie Lake,
00:14:57.700 who's running for
00:14:58.420 governor of Arizona,
00:14:59.840 gave a masterclass
00:15:00.820 in how to respond
00:15:01.620 to some of this stuff.
00:15:02.840 She was being pestered
00:15:03.780 by journalists
00:15:04.520 about whether she believed
00:15:05.480 Trump had actually won
00:15:06.600 the 2020 election.
00:15:08.220 She then read out
00:15:09.200 to these journalists
00:15:10.020 a list of Democrats
00:15:11.380 who had denied
00:15:12.340 previous election results,
00:15:14.320 including Hillary Clinton,
00:15:15.220 who claimed that
00:15:15.740 the 2016 election
00:15:16.720 had been stolen.
00:15:18.020 So she put the journalists
00:15:19.440 in their place, really,
00:15:21.540 and showed the double standard
00:15:22.880 they were using.
00:15:23.660 That's a new weapon
00:15:25.000 that conservatives
00:15:26.640 and Republicans have had
00:15:27.840 thanks to the growth
00:15:28.740 of conservative media
00:15:29.600 like my own website,
00:15:30.720 Breitbart News,
00:15:31.380 and others.
00:15:32.440 Let me just stop you there, Joel,
00:15:33.580 because I...
00:15:34.000 The last stretch here,
00:15:35.060 with absolute confidence,
00:15:36.560 I think that Republicans
00:15:37.380 are going to have
00:15:37.800 a very good night
00:15:38.640 on November 8th.
00:15:39.640 Wow.
00:15:40.080 You know what?
00:15:40.460 I know that Carrie Lake
00:15:41.620 interaction you're referring to.
00:15:42.960 She's actually amazing.
00:15:44.720 She's so tough.
00:15:45.840 I just want to play
00:15:46.720 for the viewers
00:15:47.400 that interaction,
00:15:48.520 and she was ready for it,
00:15:50.180 and she's got a style.
00:15:51.360 Take a look at Carrie Lake
00:15:52.260 in Arizona,
00:15:53.380 just clapping back
00:15:54.520 at the media.
00:15:55.260 Take a look.
00:15:55.880 If you're going to start
00:15:56.640 throwing around terms
00:15:57.680 like election denier,
00:15:59.400 let's remember who
00:16:00.160 the other election deniers were,
00:16:02.140 Hillary Clinton
00:16:02.800 and all the Democrats.
00:16:04.860 Next question.
00:16:05.560 The question is,
00:16:07.780 you, over the weekend,
00:16:09.060 everybody,
00:16:09.600 you took the Google
00:16:11.360 all over the world.
00:16:12.400 Your name was ringing
00:16:13.200 everywhere,
00:16:14.300 and one of them,
00:16:14.900 yes, ma'am,
00:16:15.480 because I have the scale,
00:16:16.720 and one of them has,
00:16:17.800 most of them were asking,
00:16:19.240 is she an election denier,
00:16:22.600 Carrie Lake?
00:16:23.360 And that was like going around
00:16:24.940 on all different cable news.
00:16:27.480 What do you elaborate on this?
00:16:29.900 I'm actually shocked
00:16:30.960 you asked that question, George.
00:16:32.840 Actually, Anthony,
00:16:33.900 where's Anthony?
00:16:34.540 One once in a while.
00:16:36.260 Come here, Anthony.
00:16:38.020 You know,
00:16:38.640 I did a little,
00:16:39.620 actually, Anthony,
00:16:40.600 Anthony, how old are you?
00:16:41.760 20.
00:16:42.700 Are you a journalist?
00:16:43.800 No.
00:16:44.700 Well, you did better research
00:16:46.060 than half these people.
00:16:48.300 Let's talk about
00:16:49.140 election deniers.
00:16:50.700 Here's 150 examples
00:16:52.100 of Democrats
00:16:53.020 denying election results.
00:16:56.360 Oh, wow, look at this.
00:16:57.400 This is from,
00:16:58.120 this is from
00:16:59.620 Joe Biden's press secretary.
00:17:01.620 Reminder,
00:17:02.880 Brian Kemp stole
00:17:03.800 the gubernatorial election
00:17:05.060 from Georgians
00:17:05.920 and Stacey Abrams.
00:17:07.580 Democrats saying that.
00:17:08.840 Is that an election denier?
00:17:10.720 Oh, look at this.
00:17:12.780 Just heard Republican
00:17:13.900 Ryan Costello
00:17:15.080 said it would be difficult
00:17:16.540 for Stacey Abrams
00:17:17.940 to win
00:17:18.340 because she lost
00:17:19.020 her state bid,
00:17:19.600 but yet she's still
00:17:20.520 claiming she never lost.
00:17:23.040 This is Hillary Clinton.
00:17:24.540 Trump is an illegitimate president.
00:17:26.620 Is she an election denier?
00:17:29.000 This one says,
00:17:30.320 was the 2016 election legitimate?
00:17:33.860 It now definitely
00:17:34.840 is a question worth asking.
00:17:36.980 That's the Los Angeles Times.
00:17:39.320 So it's okay for Democrats
00:17:40.860 to question elections,
00:17:42.180 but it's not okay
00:17:43.400 for Republicans.
00:17:44.520 It's a crock of BS.
00:17:46.300 Every one of you knows it.
00:17:47.540 We have our freedom of speech
00:17:49.080 and we're not going to relinquish it
00:17:50.380 to a bunch of fake news propagandists.
00:17:52.720 If you want a copy of these,
00:17:54.980 I'm sure that Anthony
00:17:56.640 would help you get a copy
00:17:57.640 and help you learn
00:17:58.340 how to be journalists,
00:17:59.320 but look it up.
00:18:00.460 It's been happening
00:18:01.020 for a long time.
00:18:02.380 Since 2000,
00:18:03.920 people have questioned
00:18:04.880 the legitimacy of our elections
00:18:06.500 and all we're asking
00:18:08.540 is that in the future,
00:18:10.100 we don't have that
00:18:10.700 have to happen anymore.
00:18:11.860 When I'm governor,
00:18:13.400 excuse me,
00:18:14.640 when I'm governor,
00:18:15.340 we're going to make sure
00:18:15.980 we have honest elections.
00:18:17.200 We want the Democrats,
00:18:18.740 the Independents,
00:18:19.520 and the Republicans
00:18:20.160 to all know
00:18:21.040 that their vote counted.
00:18:21.900 We want fair,
00:18:23.760 honest,
00:18:24.240 and transparent elections
00:18:25.480 and we're going to deliver
00:18:26.860 that for the people.
00:18:28.140 But just remember, guys,
00:18:29.760 this is one page
00:18:30.800 after Hillary Clinton
00:18:31.900 says George W. Bush
00:18:33.180 was selected president,
00:18:34.640 not elected.
00:18:35.740 So let's start,
00:18:36.900 if you're going to start
00:18:37.600 throwing around terms
00:18:38.620 like election denier,
00:18:40.340 let's remember
00:18:40.920 who the other election deniers were,
00:18:43.080 Hillary Clinton
00:18:43.760 and all the Democrats.
00:18:45.380 It's not the first time
00:18:46.520 she's done that.
00:18:47.100 I can't help myself.
00:18:47.940 I want to show you
00:18:48.760 that time when a CNN reporter
00:18:51.340 asked her for an interview
00:18:52.880 and she referred to CNN Plus,
00:18:54.960 which our Canadian viewers
00:18:55.880 might not know.
00:18:56.800 That was a pay-per-view,
00:18:58.540 paywalled site of CNN.
00:19:00.300 People thought
00:19:00.840 they loved CNN so much
00:19:02.560 they would pay
00:19:03.620 to get special,
00:19:04.820 anyhow,
00:19:05.120 it was shut down.
00:19:06.160 You have to know that
00:19:06.820 to understand the joke.
00:19:07.820 Here's Carrie Lake
00:19:08.660 being very tough.
00:19:10.140 In fact,
00:19:10.440 I felt bad
00:19:11.200 for the CNN reporter
00:19:12.480 who dared to ask her
00:19:13.920 this question.
00:19:14.460 Take a look.
00:19:15.200 That's Carrie Lake.
00:19:36.780 Do you think Carrie Lake
00:19:37.520 has a shot?
00:19:38.660 And Blake Masters,
00:19:39.580 I think he's also
00:19:40.360 running in the same state
00:19:41.900 but for Senate.
00:19:43.600 How's Arizona looking?
00:19:46.400 Does that state
00:19:47.420 look like it might go Republican?
00:19:49.820 I think Carrie Lake
00:19:50.980 will win.
00:19:51.680 She's running against
00:19:52.360 Secretary of State
00:19:53.160 Katie Hobbs
00:19:54.100 and Katie Hobbs
00:19:55.460 has two big problems.
00:19:57.520 One is that
00:19:58.400 there have already been
00:19:59.760 some issues
00:20:00.780 with the ballots
00:20:01.580 in this year's election.
00:20:03.120 Your job as Secretary of State
00:20:04.620 at the state level
00:20:05.540 is different from the job
00:20:06.900 of Secretary of State
00:20:07.860 at the national level.
00:20:08.940 Our Secretary of State
00:20:10.060 runs the State Department,
00:20:11.500 is responsible
00:20:12.020 for American foreign policy,
00:20:13.500 but at the state level
00:20:15.080 the Secretary of State
00:20:16.020 is responsible
00:20:16.740 for among other things
00:20:18.000 registering voters
00:20:19.360 and administering elections.
00:20:21.760 So for Katie Hobbs
00:20:22.920 to admit
00:20:23.340 that there were
00:20:23.960 thousands of ballots
00:20:24.920 that were incorrectly printed
00:20:26.460 while she's trying
00:20:27.800 to convince
00:20:28.560 those same voters
00:20:29.440 who are getting
00:20:29.960 those ballots
00:20:30.540 that she ought
00:20:31.540 to be their governor,
00:20:32.340 that's a big problem.
00:20:33.580 The other problem
00:20:34.140 is she's simply
00:20:34.960 a far left-wing radical.
00:20:37.340 When Donald Trump
00:20:37.900 was president
00:20:38.600 she referred to
00:20:39.940 Trump supporters
00:20:40.680 as neo-Nazis.
00:20:41.780 Not exactly a good look.
00:20:43.500 And then I guess
00:20:44.180 there's a third problem
00:20:44.900 she created for herself
00:20:46.120 which is that
00:20:46.600 she's refusing
00:20:47.300 to debate Carrie Lake.
00:20:48.900 She says that Carrie Lake
00:20:49.840 is an election denier
00:20:50.860 and blah, blah, blah.
00:20:52.240 So she doesn't deserve
00:20:53.680 to be on a platform.
00:20:55.260 She doesn't deserve
00:20:56.000 to be in a debate with her.
00:20:58.160 That does not go over well
00:20:59.960 with voters in any state.
00:21:01.880 Now, as for the Senate race,
00:21:03.580 you've got incumbent
00:21:04.260 Democrat Mark Kelly,
00:21:05.480 the former astronaut,
00:21:06.780 defending his seat
00:21:07.800 against Blake Masters.
00:21:08.960 Blake Masters is surging
00:21:10.240 and Mark Kelly
00:21:11.600 has an outstanding resume
00:21:13.720 but since he's been
00:21:14.820 in the Senate,
00:21:15.600 he got there two years ago
00:21:16.700 in the election
00:21:18.500 to replace
00:21:19.680 one of the outgoing senators.
00:21:21.840 I believe it was
00:21:22.280 John McCain,
00:21:22.900 the remainder of his term.
00:21:24.880 He's done nothing.
00:21:25.840 He's basically just been
00:21:26.720 a party hack,
00:21:27.540 go along to get along.
00:21:29.140 He suffers in contrast
00:21:31.140 or by contrast
00:21:32.080 to his Democratic colleague,
00:21:34.060 Kyrsten Sinema,
00:21:34.920 who also represents Arizona
00:21:36.520 in the Senate
00:21:37.080 and who has used
00:21:38.020 her position
00:21:38.940 as a moderate
00:21:39.840 as leverage
00:21:41.260 to get concessions
00:21:42.520 out of her party
00:21:43.640 and to be the key vote
00:21:44.880 in a number of Senate battles.
00:21:46.780 So she has actually
00:21:48.240 been a moderate.
00:21:49.000 She's bucked her party
00:21:49.900 and she has won goodies
00:21:50.980 for the folks back home,
00:21:52.560 whereas Mark Kelly
00:21:53.440 has not done anything of note.
00:21:55.740 And his big problem,
00:21:56.980 again, is Biden.
00:21:58.320 Arizona's a border state
00:21:59.400 and Blake Masters
00:22:00.160 scored points
00:22:01.040 in their recent debate
00:22:02.160 when he pointed out
00:22:03.160 that Mark Kelly
00:22:04.120 had done nothing
00:22:04.880 on the border
00:22:05.500 and that Biden
00:22:06.220 has allowed
00:22:07.480 record numbers
00:22:08.380 of migrants
00:22:08.860 to come across
00:22:09.440 the southern border.
00:22:10.240 We just saw
00:22:10.760 the numbers released
00:22:11.880 last week,
00:22:13.680 well over 2 million migrants,
00:22:15.300 a new record
00:22:15.840 for the last fiscal year.
00:22:18.380 So Arizona
00:22:19.060 is still a toss-up
00:22:20.020 in the Senate.
00:22:20.600 I do think
00:22:20.960 Carrie Lake's
00:22:21.460 going to win for governor.
00:22:22.520 There are a number
00:22:23.020 of other Republicans
00:22:23.700 who will do very well
00:22:25.380 in Arizona as well.
00:22:26.840 There's another point here
00:22:28.660 that I want to illustrate.
00:22:30.540 There's been a fight
00:22:31.420 within the Republican Party
00:22:32.560 over the funding
00:22:33.400 of Blake Masters
00:22:34.260 and Mitch McConnell
00:22:35.200 who leads the Republicans
00:22:36.740 in the Senate
00:22:37.260 and has done so
00:22:38.180 since 2006.
00:22:39.600 He pulled out funding
00:22:40.880 at one stage.
00:22:42.420 He's playing a lot of games
00:22:43.860 in a lot of these races
00:22:44.980 with his funding
00:22:45.940 and he's backing his favorites
00:22:48.920 but he's abandoning
00:22:50.660 those he doesn't like.
00:22:51.980 The most notable case
00:22:53.420 is in Alaska
00:22:54.600 where the Republican nominee,
00:22:56.340 a woman named Kelly Chewbacca,
00:22:58.220 is officially endorsed
00:22:59.260 by the Republican Party.
00:23:00.360 She's running against
00:23:01.080 incumbent Lisa Murkowski
00:23:02.480 who is nominally
00:23:03.880 a Republican
00:23:04.480 but ran on a write-in vote
00:23:07.220 last time
00:23:07.880 to save her seat
00:23:08.780 or actually in 2010.
00:23:10.600 But Murkowski
00:23:11.180 has since been expelled
00:23:13.000 by the Republican Party
00:23:14.080 for all of the left-wing votes
00:23:16.300 she has taken
00:23:16.920 and locals are angry.
00:23:19.320 In fact,
00:23:19.620 the Alaska Republican Party
00:23:20.800 voted to censure Murkowski
00:23:22.860 and Mitch McConnell
00:23:26.960 for backing Murkowski.
00:23:28.720 So McConnell is spending heavily
00:23:30.060 on Murkowski
00:23:30.900 against Chewbacca.
00:23:32.080 Chewbacca, again,
00:23:32.760 the official Republican candidate.
00:23:35.600 And I think there may be
00:23:36.720 a reckoning
00:23:37.220 when all this is over
00:23:38.060 because McConnell has tried
00:23:40.840 to back these
00:23:41.580 establishment-friendly candidates
00:23:43.360 but a number of the insurgent
00:23:44.820 candidates are winning.
00:23:45.940 Take New Hampshire, for example.
00:23:47.280 There's a Republican
00:23:49.320 running there,
00:23:50.320 General Baldock.
00:23:51.080 He is a retired military officer
00:23:54.180 and he was endorsed by Trump.
00:23:56.920 And Democrats spent
00:23:58.480 upwards of $40 million
00:23:59.800 in his Republican primary
00:24:02.200 to make sure
00:24:02.760 that he was the one
00:24:04.000 who emerged the victor
00:24:05.820 from that primary
00:24:06.480 because they thought
00:24:07.140 that the Trump-MAGA Republican
00:24:08.740 would be easier to defeat
00:24:10.060 in the general election.
00:24:12.220 Well, Baldock has been
00:24:13.140 rising in the polls
00:24:13.980 but Mitch McConnell
00:24:14.780 pulled all of the funding
00:24:16.680 he controls
00:24:17.360 for the National Republican
00:24:18.500 Senate campaign
00:24:19.260 out of New Hampshire.
00:24:21.220 Now, Baldock has tied
00:24:22.060 the polls anyway.
00:24:23.160 He's now in a statistical
00:24:24.060 dead heat
00:24:25.080 with incumbent Democrat
00:24:26.080 Maggie Hassan.
00:24:27.300 But Mitch McConnell
00:24:28.200 has abandoned the state
00:24:29.260 so it's no thanks to McConnell.
00:24:31.340 If and when Baldock wins
00:24:32.440 and he gets to Congress
00:24:33.400 he's not going to be
00:24:34.460 beholden to McConnell.
00:24:35.640 We could see
00:24:36.440 something of a revolt
00:24:38.020 against McConnell
00:24:38.880 with this new Senate class
00:24:41.140 whether or not
00:24:41.840 Republicans are in control
00:24:42.800 because McConnell
00:24:43.460 has made such a mess
00:24:44.600 of these endorsements
00:24:46.020 and this spending.
00:24:47.000 Plus he's been there so long.
00:24:48.320 I mean, he's been
00:24:48.860 in charge of his caucus
00:24:50.140 for 16 years
00:24:51.100 as long as Nancy Pelosi
00:24:52.340 by the way
00:24:52.800 has been in charge
00:24:53.420 of the Democrats.
00:24:53.980 I think you're going
00:24:55.220 to see some rallying
00:24:57.300 around alternative candidates
00:24:58.540 to lead the Republican Party
00:25:00.220 in the Senate
00:25:00.600 maybe even Senator Rick Scott
00:25:02.120 of Florida
00:25:02.700 who's been outstanding
00:25:03.960 in backing these candidates
00:25:05.100 even when McConnell
00:25:06.300 abandoned them.
00:25:07.740 So that's another dimension
00:25:09.140 to what's happening
00:25:09.780 in Arizona
00:25:10.220 and around the country.
00:25:11.940 I want to be very conscious
00:25:13.260 of your time.
00:25:15.200 Do you have time
00:25:15.820 for a couple more questions
00:25:16.820 or do you have to run?
00:25:18.040 I want to get back
00:25:19.080 to issues
00:25:19.860 because these individual races
00:25:21.640 are fascinating
00:25:22.520 and even though
00:25:24.340 we're in Canada
00:25:24.900 we like to follow
00:25:25.800 American political leaders
00:25:26.980 but let me talk to you
00:25:27.680 more about some themes.
00:25:29.660 I thought this was a fascinating
00:25:30.860 you mentioned
00:25:31.420 Ron DeSantis
00:25:32.420 versus Charlie Crist.
00:25:33.700 They had a debate
00:25:34.540 earlier this week
00:25:35.560 and unbelievably
00:25:37.640 Crist
00:25:38.380 who has been
00:25:39.480 for lockdowns
00:25:40.820 tried to flip it around
00:25:42.300 and claim that DeSantis
00:25:43.480 was for lockdowns
00:25:45.060 and the one thing
00:25:45.680 Canadians know
00:25:46.320 about Ron DeSantis
00:25:47.060 is he was not
00:25:47.760 for lockdowns.
00:25:48.440 He kept the schools open
00:25:49.800 and he was not
00:25:50.860 for forced vaccines.
00:25:52.500 I couldn't believe my eyes
00:25:53.900 but this tells me
00:25:54.680 maybe lockdowns
00:25:56.260 and lockdownism
00:25:57.100 are polling so badly
00:25:58.380 Democrats are trying
00:25:59.720 to gaslight us.
00:26:00.580 Here, take a quick look
00:26:01.540 at this exchange
00:26:02.260 in a Florida
00:26:03.280 gubernatorial debate.
00:26:04.820 And I would also say this
00:26:06.420 you mentioned Liz
00:26:07.320 that people are flocking
00:26:08.340 to Florida
00:26:08.860 that would not have happened
00:26:10.380 if Charlie Crist
00:26:11.540 had his way.
00:26:12.260 He wrote me a letter
00:26:13.100 in July of 2020
00:26:14.820 saying you need to shut down
00:26:16.900 the state of Florida.
00:26:18.180 He said you need to force people
00:26:19.620 to shelter
00:26:20.300 in their own homes.
00:26:21.880 That would have destroyed
00:26:23.140 the state of Florida.
00:26:24.420 That would have caused
00:26:25.840 that would have caused
00:26:27.220 our tourism industry
00:26:28.580 to go into the toilet.
00:26:30.060 It would have locked out
00:26:30.960 millions of kids
00:26:31.980 from school.
00:26:32.880 I rejected Charlie Crist's
00:26:34.860 lockdown letter.
00:26:36.040 I kept this state open
00:26:37.280 and I kept this state free.
00:26:39.900 And we now have
00:26:41.040 the biggest budget surplus
00:26:42.300 in the history of Florida.
00:26:43.960 We have a 2.5% unemployment,
00:26:46.380 second lowest on record.
00:26:48.020 And we just did
00:26:48.580 the biggest tax cut
00:26:49.640 in Florida history.
00:26:50.320 Thank you, Governor.
00:26:50.800 That's time.
00:26:52.920 Congressman,
00:26:53.660 you have 30 seconds
00:26:54.920 for rebuttal.
00:26:56.160 Thank you very much.
00:26:57.240 Well, Ron, that's rich.
00:26:58.540 You're the only governor
00:26:59.520 in the history of Florida
00:27:00.660 that's ever shut down
00:27:01.600 our schools.
00:27:02.680 You're the only governor
00:27:03.700 in the history of Florida
00:27:04.820 that shut down our businesses.
00:27:06.620 I never did that as governor.
00:27:08.600 You're the one
00:27:09.140 who's the shutdown guy.
00:27:10.600 We need to have somebody
00:27:11.920 who is at the helm
00:27:12.920 that understands
00:27:13.920 it's important
00:27:14.500 to listen to science,
00:27:16.180 to do what's right,
00:27:17.160 utilize common sense.
00:27:18.920 You don't just shut down
00:27:19.840 at the outset
00:27:20.460 and then when it's,
00:27:22.040 you know,
00:27:22.300 politically convenient for you,
00:27:23.700 you want to open back up
00:27:24.900 to store political points
00:27:26.300 for your district president.
00:27:28.760 That's not right.
00:27:29.480 Governor, you have 30 seconds.
00:27:32.640 Well, so he opposed
00:27:34.580 having kids in school.
00:27:36.200 His supporters sued me
00:27:37.780 to keep the kids
00:27:38.940 out of school in 2020.
00:27:40.680 And how critical
00:27:41.660 was that decision?
00:27:43.040 We just got
00:27:43.700 the nation's report card,
00:27:45.160 the results
00:27:45.640 from all 50 states.
00:27:47.440 Florida, number three
00:27:48.700 in fourth grade reading
00:27:49.920 and number four
00:27:50.740 in the country
00:27:51.320 in fourth grade math.
00:27:52.640 And if you adjust
00:27:53.440 that for demographics,
00:27:54.520 we are number one
00:27:56.060 in the country in both.
00:27:57.680 That would not have happened
00:27:58.800 if we let Charlie Chris
00:28:00.180 and his friends
00:28:00.900 lock our kids out of school
00:28:02.420 like they did in California
00:28:03.880 and like they did in New York.
00:28:05.660 We did it right in Florida.
00:28:07.160 Well, Joel,
00:28:07.800 does that,
00:28:08.260 is that just Chris
00:28:08.960 trying to blunt
00:28:09.820 DeSantis' strength?
00:28:11.180 Is that just trolling
00:28:12.020 as you said earlier?
00:28:13.180 Or are the Democrats
00:28:14.220 really trying to pretend
00:28:15.160 they were never
00:28:15.680 for this lockdown
00:28:16.420 to begin with?
00:28:18.520 You have to give credit
00:28:19.680 to Charlie Chris.
00:28:20.400 He's not a very good
00:28:22.420 member of Congress
00:28:23.880 or governor.
00:28:24.980 He loses a lot.
00:28:26.820 But he is an expert
00:28:28.660 at this kind of
00:28:30.180 political rhetoric.
00:28:32.820 And even though
00:28:33.660 I think on substance,
00:28:35.340 Ron DeSantis won the debate,
00:28:37.060 Charlie Chris
00:28:37.620 outperformed expectations.
00:28:39.180 He is very, very good
00:28:40.400 at delivering these attack lines.
00:28:42.300 And you're absolutely right.
00:28:43.840 Lockdowns are so unpopular
00:28:45.320 that if you associate
00:28:47.420 any candidate with lockdowns,
00:28:49.380 it hurts them.
00:28:51.000 What Charlie Chris
00:28:51.640 was saying was true,
00:28:54.160 which is that Ron DeSantis
00:28:55.360 did lock down the state.
00:28:57.020 What he left out
00:28:58.000 was that DeSantis
00:28:58.720 locked it down
00:28:59.520 for the 15 days
00:29:01.000 that Donald Trump
00:29:01.720 asked the entire country
00:29:02.980 to lock down.
00:29:03.800 Remember, 15 days
00:29:04.740 to slow the spread.
00:29:06.360 And then DeSantis
00:29:06.920 promptly reopened the state
00:29:08.640 and he defended his decision
00:29:09.880 to do so in that debate
00:29:10.800 by saying he had to save jobs,
00:29:12.660 he had to save businesses.
00:29:13.980 And that's why people
00:29:14.720 are flocking to Florida
00:29:15.680 because he did so.
00:29:16.780 But Charlie Chris
00:29:17.580 points out correctly,
00:29:18.860 although partially,
00:29:21.240 that it was Ron DeSantis
00:29:23.120 who locked down the state.
00:29:24.460 Well, yes,
00:29:24.920 it was also Ron DeSantis
00:29:26.620 who had to deal
00:29:27.240 with a pandemic.
00:29:28.220 I mean, it's not like
00:29:29.000 he just locked down
00:29:30.040 the state for no reason.
00:29:31.840 This was a pandemic
00:29:32.780 that policymakers,
00:29:34.400 whether Republican
00:29:34.980 or Democrat,
00:29:35.580 were struggling to understand.
00:29:37.420 But once those 15 days
00:29:39.160 were over
00:29:39.680 and the spring breakers
00:29:40.800 had been sent home,
00:29:41.880 you remember those scenes
00:29:43.100 of college kids
00:29:43.860 partying on the beach
00:29:44.760 when people thought
00:29:45.460 that coronavirus,
00:29:46.600 COVID-19 was an absolutely
00:29:48.960 deadly disease like Ebola.
00:29:51.360 That shocked people
00:29:52.260 to see kids
00:29:52.860 pouring beer down
00:29:54.920 each other's backsides
00:29:55.920 and drinking.
00:29:56.540 You know, people just thought
00:29:57.440 this is crazy.
00:29:58.160 Why are these kids partying?
00:29:59.280 DeSantis kept the beaches open.
00:30:00.560 This is terrible.
00:30:01.940 But yes,
00:30:02.760 it was effective
00:30:03.420 for Charlie Chris
00:30:04.160 to do that
00:30:04.780 because if you associate
00:30:05.860 anybody with lockdowns,
00:30:07.140 even though they're anti-lockdown,
00:30:09.140 it does hurt them.
00:30:10.560 I don't think it's going
00:30:11.300 to be enough for Chris
00:30:12.200 because Florida
00:30:13.300 is full of voters now
00:30:14.660 who understand
00:30:15.320 that Ron DeSantis
00:30:16.200 is the difference
00:30:17.060 between prosperity
00:30:18.480 and failure.
00:30:19.560 They look at California,
00:30:20.640 they look at Texas,
00:30:21.880 they hear from all the people
00:30:23.060 arriving from New York
00:30:24.120 and Illinois
00:30:24.600 abandoning these blue states
00:30:26.300 for Florida.
00:30:27.640 Florida feels like
00:30:28.340 a free country.
00:30:29.180 When you go there,
00:30:29.880 it does feel,
00:30:31.020 certainly during the height
00:30:31.660 of the pandemic,
00:30:32.260 it did feel like
00:30:33.240 the only part of America
00:30:34.220 that was still America.
00:30:35.880 Everybody knows that.
00:30:36.840 Nobody's going to forget it.
00:30:37.860 Ron DeSantis is going
00:30:38.680 to walk to an easy victory.
00:30:40.300 But what Charlie Chris
00:30:41.100 is doing there
00:30:41.940 is he's denting
00:30:43.120 Ron DeSantis.
00:30:43.720 He's trying to give him
00:30:44.740 some cuts and bruises
00:30:45.900 so that if Ron DeSantis
00:30:47.400 does decide to run
00:30:48.420 for president,
00:30:49.040 whether in 2024 or 2028,
00:30:51.240 he has damaged goods.
00:30:53.220 And that was a theme
00:30:54.240 that Chris kept coming back
00:30:56.660 to in that gubernatorial debate.
00:30:58.280 He kept reminding voters
00:30:59.420 that DeSantis is thinking
00:31:01.560 about running for president.
00:31:02.620 And actually,
00:31:03.280 one of the best points
00:31:04.260 Chris made
00:31:04.920 was when he asked DeSantis
00:31:07.280 to say whether or not
00:31:09.440 he would serve
00:31:10.020 another full four years
00:31:11.180 or whether he would
00:31:11.820 run for president.
00:31:12.480 DeSantis didn't answer
00:31:13.960 partly because it was
00:31:14.800 against the rules
00:31:15.500 for Chris to ask him
00:31:16.500 the question.
00:31:17.940 But Chris commented
00:31:19.480 again and again,
00:31:20.340 even though he was breaking
00:31:21.080 the rules of the debate,
00:31:22.500 Chris commented again
00:31:23.640 and again on Ron DeSantis'
00:31:25.300 failure to answer
00:31:26.660 that question.
00:31:28.000 Now, that might be
00:31:28.580 fine for Republicans.
00:31:29.600 There are many Republicans
00:31:30.340 who would like to see
00:31:31.080 Ron DeSantis run for president.
00:31:32.660 But Chris is basically
00:31:33.700 trying to make Ron DeSantis
00:31:35.100 out to be a
00:31:35.860 self-interested politician.
00:31:37.060 And they want people
00:31:39.060 to see him that way
00:31:40.700 nationwide rather than
00:31:42.240 what he has also been,
00:31:44.200 which is the most effective
00:31:46.300 governor in the entire country.
00:31:48.060 There's no one even close.
00:31:49.740 Maybe Greg Abbott of Texas.
00:31:51.360 There have been a couple
00:31:51.900 of other good Republican governors.
00:31:53.400 But there is nobody
00:31:54.580 who has been as bold
00:31:56.520 and as successful
00:31:57.340 as Ron DeSantis has been
00:31:58.760 in running his state
00:32:00.720 and managing it through
00:32:01.760 various crises
00:32:02.600 over the last few years.
00:32:03.600 Last question for you.
00:32:05.360 Foreign affairs.
00:32:06.240 And this is what scares me.
00:32:07.800 We see Russia's invasion
00:32:09.840 of Ukraine
00:32:10.500 using conventional weapons.
00:32:12.360 It's not going as well
00:32:13.220 for the Russians
00:32:13.820 as perhaps they thought
00:32:15.120 it might.
00:32:15.860 An enormous amount
00:32:17.100 of American weapons.
00:32:18.620 And according to
00:32:19.120 the New York Times,
00:32:20.260 CIA men in Kiev
00:32:22.260 directing a lot
00:32:24.080 of the Ukrainian military,
00:32:25.340 a lot of intelligence.
00:32:27.380 And I think that Americans
00:32:28.840 are I think it really
00:32:29.820 is a proxy war,
00:32:30.980 which might be
00:32:32.480 to America's advantage
00:32:33.360 to grind down
00:32:34.680 Russia's military.
00:32:36.160 Although I don't know
00:32:37.760 what Ukrainians think
00:32:39.380 about being the battleground.
00:32:40.960 But here's what scares
00:32:41.880 the heck out of me, Joel,
00:32:43.220 is that Vladimir Putin,
00:32:45.620 former KGB agent,
00:32:47.240 probably a murderer,
00:32:48.320 certainly an authoritarian
00:32:49.400 imperialist, a bully.
00:32:51.460 He's got nukes.
00:32:53.780 And he's been talking
00:32:54.800 vaguely about using them.
00:32:56.920 And Zelensky on the Ukrainian side
00:32:58.600 is telling NATO
00:33:00.020 to strike first.
00:33:01.100 And there's talk
00:33:02.300 of retaking Crimea.
00:33:03.720 I am genuinely worried.
00:33:05.700 And then we see this video
00:33:07.660 by, I think it was NBC.
00:33:10.360 The 101st Airborne
00:33:12.040 has been dispatched
00:33:13.040 to the Ukrainian border.
00:33:14.480 And they're embedding journalists.
00:33:16.100 And there's a real drumbeat of war.
00:33:18.780 Here, take a quick look
00:33:19.620 at this NBC patriotic homage
00:33:22.960 to the first deployment
00:33:24.140 of the 101st Airborne
00:33:25.240 since the Second World War.
00:33:26.360 At a forward operating site,
00:33:30.300 we watched as U.S. soldiers
00:33:31.740 and Romanian troops
00:33:33.160 pounded targets
00:33:34.300 in a joint ground-in-air assault.
00:33:37.020 The tank rounds
00:33:38.380 and artillery fire are real.
00:33:41.560 So is the enemy,
00:33:43.460 meant to recreate the fight
00:33:44.940 against Russian forces in Ukraine.
00:33:47.500 A message to Russia
00:33:48.760 and NATO allies alike,
00:33:50.560 we're here.
00:33:51.360 The real meaning for me
00:33:54.200 to have the American troops here
00:33:55.740 is like if you were to have
00:33:58.260 allies in Normandy
00:34:00.040 before any enemy was there.
00:34:03.080 In all, roughly 4,700 soldiers
00:34:05.820 of the 101st Screaming Eagles
00:34:07.720 from Fort Campbell, Kentucky
00:34:09.240 have been deployed
00:34:10.360 to reinforce NATO's eastern flank.
00:34:13.740 You've had an opportunity
00:34:15.160 to watch, observe,
00:34:17.000 and possibly study the Russians.
00:34:21.360 What do you think of them so far?
00:34:23.600 So we're closely watching them.
00:34:25.780 So we're building objectives
00:34:27.740 to practice against
00:34:28.960 that replicate exactly
00:34:30.320 what's going on in Ukraine.
00:34:31.700 We're the closest American unit
00:34:33.800 to the fighting in Ukraine.
00:34:35.780 And what does that feel like?
00:34:37.100 What does that mean?
00:34:38.380 It keeps us on our toes, right?
00:34:42.040 Ready to fight tonight
00:34:43.600 is a message
00:34:44.540 that we've heard repeatedly.
00:34:46.060 It's not just about
00:34:47.540 defending NATO territory,
00:34:49.520 but if the fight escalates
00:34:50.660 and NATO partners
00:34:51.780 are under threat,
00:34:52.940 they're fully prepared
00:34:54.020 to cross over
00:34:54.780 into Ukrainian territory
00:34:56.380 if ordered to do so.
00:34:58.300 Joel, I'm worried
00:34:59.320 that this may be
00:35:00.940 the October or November surprise.
00:35:04.160 I'm worried that
00:35:05.260 in a desperation
00:35:07.160 to change the channel
00:35:08.420 from the bad economy
00:35:09.560 and woke-ism,
00:35:11.340 that there's going to be
00:35:12.500 some general
00:35:13.220 or someone in the White House
00:35:14.440 who says we need some incident
00:35:15.920 we're, you know,
00:35:17.080 I'm not engaging
00:35:18.120 in a conspiracy theory,
00:35:19.280 but why would you move
00:35:20.260 the 101st Airborne
00:35:21.440 to Ukraine now?
00:35:23.640 Why would you do that now?
00:35:25.460 I'm nervous about that
00:35:27.060 because I'm against nuclear war
00:35:29.420 and I think that Joe Biden
00:35:31.540 is in a desperate
00:35:32.420 political strait.
00:35:33.560 Am I too nervous
00:35:35.000 about these things?
00:35:36.520 No, I think you're right
00:35:37.620 to be nervous.
00:35:38.640 I do think, however,
00:35:39.600 that if Biden tries to start
00:35:43.440 or provoke a direct conflict
00:35:45.160 with Russia
00:35:45.760 or some kind of Russian use
00:35:48.840 of chemical or nuclear weapons
00:35:50.920 or anything like that,
00:35:51.700 I think it will hurt Biden.
00:35:53.140 So I don't think it helps
00:35:55.200 the Democrats
00:35:55.880 to have Ukraine flare up
00:35:58.040 beyond what it is right now.
00:35:59.940 I do think that you're going
00:36:02.500 to see peace talks start
00:36:04.220 finally after the midterm elections
00:36:07.440 if Republicans win the House.
00:36:10.340 And the reason for that
00:36:11.300 is that minority leader
00:36:13.160 Kevin McCarthy,
00:36:14.080 who would become
00:36:14.540 the new speaker
00:36:15.280 if Republicans win the House,
00:36:16.940 and almost everybody
00:36:17.580 thinks they're going to,
00:36:18.480 except for Nancy Pelosi.
00:36:19.960 By the way,
00:36:20.420 Nancy Pelosi predicted
00:36:21.540 Democrats would win the House
00:36:22.820 and she said,
00:36:24.100 you can take it to the bank.
00:36:25.460 That's exactly what she said
00:36:26.760 about the 2016 presidential election
00:36:29.780 when she swore
00:36:30.860 that Donald Trump
00:36:32.120 would never be president.
00:36:33.140 You can take it to the bank.
00:36:34.660 So she has a very good record
00:36:36.800 of being 100% wrong
00:36:37.960 whenever she uses that phrase.
00:36:39.860 Republicans are going
00:36:40.820 to win the House.
00:36:41.860 And Kevin McCarthy has said
00:36:43.040 that when Republicans take over,
00:36:44.760 the blank check for Ukraine ends.
00:36:47.380 That doesn't mean
00:36:48.160 we're not going to support Ukraine.
00:36:49.860 It doesn't mean we're going
00:36:50.580 to back away from Russia.
00:36:52.020 But it does mean that finally,
00:36:54.560 and I'm a very hawkish person, okay?
00:36:56.220 I was very much in favor
00:36:57.940 of the Bush administration,
00:36:59.500 the Obama administration,
00:37:00.740 the Trump administration,
00:37:01.700 doing whatever they could
00:37:02.860 and Obama often didn't,
00:37:04.280 but doing whatever they could
00:37:05.240 to help these former Soviet satellites
00:37:07.540 because I do think
00:37:08.540 and did think,
00:37:09.360 and I was warning since 2008
00:37:10.920 that Russia was a very serious threat.
00:37:13.580 Many of us were ignored
00:37:14.440 during the six years
00:37:15.540 in which Obama tried
00:37:16.520 to appease Russia.
00:37:17.820 But nevertheless,
00:37:19.720 the problem is
00:37:22.320 we have not been demanding
00:37:24.260 anything in return
00:37:25.460 for our money.
00:37:27.140 We ought to have learned
00:37:28.580 from Afghanistan
00:37:29.240 where billions were stolen
00:37:30.560 through corruption
00:37:31.320 that you have to have monitors
00:37:33.180 to make sure the money
00:37:34.020 is being properly spent.
00:37:35.980 You also have to have
00:37:36.920 some commitment
00:37:37.560 from the Ukrainians
00:37:38.680 that there are going
00:37:40.340 to be peace talks,
00:37:41.420 that they are committed
00:37:42.160 to negotiating.
00:37:43.040 Now, I understand
00:37:43.480 they don't want to negotiate
00:37:44.440 with enemy soldiers
00:37:46.320 on their territory,
00:37:47.180 but on the other hand,
00:37:48.500 they're asking the world
00:37:49.460 to intervene
00:37:50.440 in a way that could trigger
00:37:51.480 a nuclear war.
00:37:53.500 Vladimir Zelensky,
00:37:54.240 who I happen to admire
00:37:55.360 in many ways,
00:37:56.480 made crazy statements
00:37:58.040 at the United Nations opening
00:38:00.260 and has said things
00:38:02.320 about punishing Russia,
00:38:04.340 launching some kind
00:38:04.920 of punitive military effort.
00:38:06.840 Nobody has an interest in that.
00:38:08.980 There are going to have
00:38:10.100 to be conditions
00:38:10.860 attached to this aid
00:38:11.860 that require Ukraine
00:38:13.020 to sit down at the table
00:38:14.400 or at least show a willingness
00:38:15.460 to reach a diplomatic solution
00:38:17.260 because the military approach
00:38:19.100 right now,
00:38:19.900 while it may be necessary
00:38:21.040 when Russia's
00:38:21.660 on the outskirts of Kiev,
00:38:23.380 is now threatening,
00:38:24.620 as you say, nuclear war.
00:38:25.840 It's also threatening
00:38:26.560 the energy supply to Europe.
00:38:28.620 It's threatening
00:38:28.960 the global economy.
00:38:30.120 It's threatening the supply
00:38:31.040 of wheat and grain
00:38:32.700 to the developing world.
00:38:33.800 There's been some agreement
00:38:34.760 around shipments
00:38:36.080 from Russia and Ukraine
00:38:37.020 of grain and fertilizer,
00:38:38.640 but who knows
00:38:39.320 how long that'll last.
00:38:40.620 So this war could join
00:38:42.400 the entire world,
00:38:43.520 whether militarily
00:38:44.200 or economically,
00:38:45.240 and the Ukrainians
00:38:45.940 are completely intransigent,
00:38:47.520 and they are that way
00:38:48.420 because the Biden administration
00:38:50.140 is completely intransigent,
00:38:52.120 and the reason they're doing that
00:38:53.760 is not just because
00:38:54.580 of some kind of
00:38:55.100 foreign policy calculation,
00:38:56.560 but because of domestic politics.
00:38:58.660 Democrats decided suddenly,
00:39:00.440 when Donald Trump
00:39:01.060 won the presidency,
00:39:02.380 that Russia was
00:39:03.380 a major geopolitical rival.
00:39:05.540 I mean, remember in 2012,
00:39:06.740 Obama was mocking Mitt Romney
00:39:08.260 for talking about Russia
00:39:09.420 as the number one
00:39:10.040 geopolitical foe.
00:39:11.480 He said,
00:39:11.900 the 1980s called,
00:39:12.940 they want their
00:39:13.300 foreign policy back.
00:39:14.760 Well, just a couple years later,
00:39:16.240 Russia seized Crimea,
00:39:18.220 and it was really
00:39:19.360 this domestic political event
00:39:20.800 that Democrats blamed
00:39:21.800 on Russia
00:39:22.340 that caused them
00:39:23.640 to hate Russia
00:39:24.760 with a blinding passion,
00:39:26.360 and I think they're actually
00:39:27.440 after domestic political revenge
00:39:29.780 rather than any kind
00:39:30.760 of real-world calculation
00:39:32.620 about how the world
00:39:33.320 ought to work.
00:39:33.940 I don't think
00:39:34.200 they've thought this through
00:39:35.060 because even if they get
00:39:36.700 everything they say they want,
00:39:38.020 let's say Vladimir Putin
00:39:39.080 is ousted,
00:39:39.900 let's say Russia's
00:39:40.600 military collapses,
00:39:41.840 well, what does that do?
00:39:42.900 It just leaves China
00:39:43.840 as the last player standing.
00:39:45.720 China then turns Russia
00:39:46.760 into its northern colony,
00:39:48.120 and now is much stronger
00:39:49.680 than ever.
00:39:50.320 It's sort of like the mistake
00:39:51.380 George W. Bush made in Iraq.
00:39:53.600 If you destabilize Iraq,
00:39:56.020 Iran becomes the dominant power
00:39:57.420 in the region,
00:39:58.180 and the failure
00:39:59.220 of the post-war occupation
00:40:00.520 led that to happen.
00:40:01.720 So I don't think Democrats
00:40:03.340 have thought this through.
00:40:04.960 When Republicans take the House,
00:40:06.900 there is not going to be
00:40:08.060 any more of this
00:40:08.900 freewheeling spending
00:40:10.020 on Ukraine.
00:40:10.780 They're not going to cut off funds.
00:40:12.560 They're not going to pull
00:40:13.560 the plug out
00:40:14.420 from this war effort.
00:40:15.240 They're not going to pull
00:40:15.680 the rug out from under Zelensky,
00:40:16.840 but they are going to demand
00:40:18.700 that Americans get value
00:40:20.040 for money,
00:40:20.600 and they're going to
00:40:21.400 prevent Ukraine
00:40:22.580 from dragging America
00:40:23.960 and the rest of the world
00:40:24.780 into this war.
00:40:25.600 I do think that that's what
00:40:27.240 Vladimir Putin is waiting for.
00:40:28.780 I think he's likely
00:40:29.500 to wait for it.
00:40:30.280 He knows he's going to get
00:40:31.280 a better agreement
00:40:32.140 by waiting for power
00:40:33.600 to change hands.
00:40:34.480 Again, not because Republicans
00:40:35.620 are pro-Russia,
00:40:36.960 but because they are not
00:40:38.520 doing what Democrats
00:40:39.660 are doing,
00:40:40.180 which is spending wildly,
00:40:42.160 giving Ukraine
00:40:42.720 whatever Ukraine asks for,
00:40:44.120 not checking what the money
00:40:45.660 is being spent on,
00:40:46.500 and allowing Zelensky
00:40:47.680 to make these crazy statements
00:40:49.040 on the world stage,
00:40:49.840 and some of them
00:40:50.200 really are crazy,
00:40:51.720 without any thought
00:40:53.720 to the consequences.
00:40:54.720 I think things are going
00:40:55.640 to settle down.
00:40:56.700 I think they're going
00:40:57.100 to calm down a little bit.
00:40:58.700 It's not going to be
00:40:59.420 to anybody's liking.
00:41:00.460 Russia will probably end up
00:41:01.760 with some of that
00:41:02.260 Ukrainian territory,
00:41:03.420 unfortunately,
00:41:04.640 and the world will have
00:41:05.420 to reckon with
00:41:06.680 the problem of allowing
00:41:09.300 a dictator
00:41:10.260 to take land
00:41:11.820 through force,
00:41:12.440 but Putin's only going
00:41:13.620 to get a fraction
00:41:14.260 of what he wanted,
00:41:15.400 and Ukraine will have
00:41:16.400 defended its sovereignty,
00:41:17.800 NATO will have expanded
00:41:18.900 its boundaries,
00:41:19.580 it already has done so.
00:41:21.160 So I think that's where
00:41:22.460 the war is basically
00:41:23.420 going to end.
00:41:25.000 So a vote for the Republican Party
00:41:26.940 is, in many ways,
00:41:28.500 a vote to avoid nuclear war,
00:41:30.820 and that's not because
00:41:31.560 Republicans are making
00:41:32.480 better promises
00:41:33.320 than Democrats
00:41:34.140 on the subject of war
00:41:35.640 and so forth.
00:41:36.600 It's just that they're not
00:41:37.460 going to spend the money,
00:41:38.360 and when the money
00:41:40.140 starts moving
00:41:41.160 or stops moving,
00:41:42.060 as Donald Trump
00:41:42.780 would often say,
00:41:43.840 that's when the real
00:41:44.520 decisions get made.
00:41:45.460 So I think that,
00:41:46.880 oddly enough,
00:41:48.000 and strange as it may seem,
00:41:48.920 maybe counterintuitive
00:41:49.780 in some ways,
00:41:51.240 I think that the chances
00:41:52.340 of nuclear war
00:41:53.260 are lower after November 8th
00:41:55.040 than they are today.
00:41:56.940 Well, fascinating
00:41:57.980 and terrifying
00:41:58.700 at the same time.
00:42:00.000 I hope,
00:42:00.820 you mentioned
00:42:01.380 ballot problems
00:42:03.020 in Arizona.
00:42:04.040 That New York Times poll
00:42:05.380 I went through
00:42:05.840 the other day
00:42:06.360 showed that
00:42:07.000 a significant number
00:42:08.460 of Americans
00:42:08.960 are still very worried
00:42:10.260 about the integrity
00:42:11.760 of elections,
00:42:12.820 including the one
00:42:14.100 in less than two weeks.
00:42:15.180 So hopefully
00:42:15.600 there won't be shenanigans
00:42:16.580 there.
00:42:16.840 Joel Pollack,
00:42:17.740 Senior Editor-at-Large
00:42:18.640 at Breitbart.com.
00:42:19.580 Great to spend
00:42:20.260 some time with you.
00:42:20.980 Thanks for taking us
00:42:22.220 through the interesting
00:42:23.060 landscape.
00:42:24.620 Thank you.
00:42:25.200 Always good to be with you.
00:42:26.240 Yeah, Ryan Gaughan.
00:42:26.980 It's a pleasure to have you.
00:42:28.120 Stay with us.
00:42:29.060 My final thoughts are next.
00:42:36.360 Boy, it's great
00:42:40.160 to talk with Joel.
00:42:40.940 He knows so much
00:42:42.060 about so many
00:42:42.780 different districts.
00:42:43.560 I knew about some
00:42:44.160 of the cases
00:42:44.580 he was talking about,
00:42:45.560 but not all of them.
00:42:46.760 I wish I had more time
00:42:48.140 with him.
00:42:48.400 I think I would ask
00:42:49.060 a hundred more questions
00:42:50.080 about oil
00:42:50.940 and why Joe Biden
00:42:52.380 just won't buy
00:42:53.300 Canadian oil
00:42:53.940 through the Keystone
00:42:54.560 Excel pipeline,
00:42:56.100 but went begging
00:42:57.080 cap and hand
00:42:57.820 to the Saudis
00:42:58.620 and the Venezuelans.
00:43:00.800 I think this clip
00:43:02.020 here should probably
00:43:03.740 be shown by
00:43:04.760 every Republican candidate
00:43:06.300 until Election Day.
00:43:07.980 The economy,
00:43:09.020 strong as hell?
00:43:10.300 Just one more
00:43:11.580 economic one.
00:43:12.400 Are you concerned
00:43:12.900 about the strength
00:43:13.700 of the dollar right now?
00:43:18.400 I'm not concerned
00:43:19.540 about the strength
00:43:20.140 of the dollar.
00:43:21.420 I'm concerned
00:43:22.300 about the rest
00:43:22.940 of the world.
00:43:24.500 Does that make sense?
00:43:26.740 Yes.
00:43:27.620 Our economy
00:43:28.260 is strong as hell
00:43:29.160 in the internals.
00:43:32.080 Inflation is worldwide.
00:43:33.420 Yeah, I don't know
00:43:52.160 if anybody believes
00:43:53.080 that.
00:43:54.140 There's another trend
00:43:56.000 that I think
00:43:56.860 is evident
00:43:57.700 in Florida
00:43:58.680 and elsewhere,
00:43:59.280 that of Republican
00:44:01.200 Latinos.
00:44:02.880 None of this
00:44:03.400 woke Latinx stuff.
00:44:05.980 But I saw a new poll.
00:44:07.240 I don't know
00:44:07.500 if you saw this.
00:44:08.300 Myra Flores,
00:44:09.220 the Republican
00:44:10.060 Hispanic candidate
00:44:11.900 in Texas,
00:44:12.800 is actually more popular
00:44:14.720 amongst Latinos
00:44:15.540 than Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
00:44:18.120 the Queen of Woke.
00:44:19.720 So many interesting
00:44:20.800 things going on.
00:44:21.860 We'll find out
00:44:22.400 soon enough.
00:44:23.200 And you bet
00:44:24.020 it absolutely does
00:44:25.800 impact us
00:44:26.740 here in Canada.
00:44:28.320 until next time,
00:44:30.400 on behalf of all of us
00:44:31.340 here at Rebel World
00:44:32.160 Headquarters,
00:44:32.720 to you at home,
00:44:33.440 good night,
00:44:34.400 and keep fighting
00:44:35.240 for freedom.
00:44:36.040 The most heinous things
00:44:37.580 done to the truck convoy
00:44:39.860 by the police
00:44:40.480 in Ottawa
00:44:40.880 was threatening
00:44:41.680 to take their children
00:44:43.240 from them.
00:44:44.560 And today I can tell you
00:44:45.380 that based on documents
00:44:46.680 submitted to the
00:44:47.580 Public Order
00:44:48.420 Emergency Commission,
00:44:50.840 the directive
00:44:51.580 to do this
00:44:52.220 came directly out
00:44:53.300 of the Prime Minister's
00:44:54.460 office.
00:44:55.460 Now for those of you
00:44:56.320 who don't know
00:44:57.120 and I don't know
00:44:57.540 how you couldn't,
00:44:58.540 the convoy to Ottawa
00:44:59.280 took place
00:44:59.880 during the end
00:45:00.560 of January
00:45:01.320 and all the way
00:45:02.820 through to the
00:45:03.580 middle of February
00:45:04.520 this year.
00:45:05.620 Thousands of truckers
00:45:06.720 and their supporters
00:45:07.420 converged on our
00:45:08.600 nation's capital
00:45:09.360 in Ottawa
00:45:10.000 to protest
00:45:11.100 for the end
00:45:11.980 of remaining
00:45:12.620 COVID restrictions,
00:45:14.300 including
00:45:14.760 what ignited it all,
00:45:16.480 a cross-border
00:45:17.180 vaccine mandate
00:45:18.220 for long-haul truckers.
00:45:20.260 The largely
00:45:20.880 peaceful protest,
00:45:22.540 and police data
00:45:23.340 supports this,
00:45:24.480 was extinguished
00:45:25.460 by the invocation
00:45:26.480 of the War Measures
00:45:27.480 Act 2.0
00:45:28.460 at the hands
00:45:28.960 of Prime Minister
00:45:29.540 Justin Trudeau.
00:45:30.780 Truckers and their
00:45:31.420 supporters were treated
00:45:32.260 like common terrorists
00:45:33.380 when their own government
00:45:34.460 invoked a counter-terrorism law
00:45:36.800 called the Emergencies Act
00:45:38.340 to seize their bank accounts,
00:45:40.660 to take their trucks,
00:45:42.160 to seize their assets,
00:45:43.420 their businesses,
00:45:44.240 their insurance policies,
00:45:45.520 their gasoline,
00:45:46.280 their diesel,
00:45:46.800 their firewood,
00:45:47.840 their food,
00:45:48.820 and their liberties.
00:45:49.960 Because the Emergencies Act
00:45:51.340 gave the police
00:45:52.140 extraordinary powers
00:45:53.200 of search,
00:45:54.320 seizure,
00:45:55.240 and arrest.
00:45:56.400 And it was all
00:45:57.060 for the crime
00:45:57.660 of inconveniencing
00:45:59.160 a few thousand people
00:46:00.580 who live in downtown Ottawa,
00:46:03.080 and of course,
00:46:04.280 most importantly,
00:46:05.620 embarrassing the Prime Minister.
00:46:07.480 Right now,
00:46:08.180 in Ottawa,
00:46:08.860 a fail-safe built
00:46:09.960 into the Emergencies Act
00:46:11.300 is unfolding
00:46:11.940 for the world to see.
00:46:13.800 The government
00:46:14.340 must hold an inquiry
00:46:15.660 within one year
00:46:16.660 of invoking the Act
00:46:17.600 to prove the necessity
00:46:18.660 of it.
00:46:19.660 And being loud,
00:46:20.600 inconvenient,
00:46:22.020 or over saying
00:46:22.800 you're welcome
00:46:23.340 in the nation's capital,
00:46:24.780 well, those,
00:46:25.540 they don't qualify.
00:46:26.760 You can see all
00:46:27.520 of our coverage
00:46:28.040 and support
00:46:28.580 our independent journalism
00:46:29.840 at truckercommission.com.
00:46:33.260 Now, let's get back
00:46:34.900 to the kids.
00:46:36.060 According to
00:46:36.700 the Ottawa Police,
00:46:38.540 being a blue-collar
00:46:39.620 freedom lover
00:46:40.300 who didn't want
00:46:41.340 to be away
00:46:41.920 from their kids
00:46:43.000 for several weeks
00:46:44.680 at a time,
00:46:45.260 well, I guess
00:46:45.820 that makes you
00:46:46.360 a bad parent.
00:46:48.020 Ottawa Interim
00:46:48.980 Police Chief
00:46:49.680 Steve Bell,
00:46:51.040 as you saw
00:46:51.640 off the top
00:46:52.300 of this video,
00:46:53.700 made that subtle
00:46:54.660 threat to parents
00:46:55.580 in a press conference,
00:46:57.260 hinting that
00:46:58.240 their children
00:46:58.800 would be seized
00:46:59.840 from them,
00:47:01.140 from loving parents,
00:47:02.760 good parents,
00:47:04.180 for taking
00:47:05.520 that journey
00:47:06.060 to Ottawa
00:47:06.620 to fight
00:47:07.260 for their children's
00:47:08.140 futures.
00:47:09.580 Now, on Monday
00:47:10.400 at the Public Order
00:47:11.440 Emergency Inquiry,
00:47:12.740 the aforementioned
00:47:13.640 Trucker Commission,
00:47:14.920 it came out
00:47:15.700 that former Chief Bell
00:47:17.040 made the announcement
00:47:18.120 to seize kids
00:47:19.380 after taking
00:47:20.880 the advice
00:47:21.460 of Crisis
00:47:22.080 Communications
00:47:22.820 Greaseball's
00:47:23.700 navigator,
00:47:24.540 he didn't consult
00:47:25.400 with the Children's
00:47:26.120 Aid Society
00:47:26.760 before planning
00:47:27.980 to use them
00:47:28.760 as enforcement
00:47:29.620 tools of the state.
00:47:31.100 Just take a listen.
00:47:32.340 Police service gave
00:47:33.500 where it was said
00:47:35.040 to the media
00:47:35.620 and in the public
00:47:36.720 that OPS
00:47:37.620 had concerns
00:47:38.380 for the children
00:47:39.160 of the protesters
00:47:39.980 in Ottawa
00:47:40.480 and OPS
00:47:41.720 wanted to discuss
00:47:43.060 enforcement
00:47:43.840 with the Child
00:47:45.260 Aid Society
00:47:45.880 of Ontario.
00:47:46.400 You're aware
00:47:46.820 that happened?
00:47:47.960 So, you said
00:47:49.200 the Ontario Police
00:47:50.120 Service,
00:47:50.540 I believe you mean
00:47:51.620 the Ottawa Police
00:47:52.460 Service?
00:47:55.260 Do you have
00:47:56.160 a document
00:47:56.640 we can reference
00:47:57.320 with that media
00:47:57.800 release or is that
00:47:58.480 a clip?
00:47:59.520 It's a clip.
00:48:00.760 So, I do recall,
00:48:02.220 I don't specifically
00:48:03.160 recall references
00:48:05.320 to enforcement
00:48:06.060 but I do
00:48:07.000 specifically recall
00:48:08.180 the discussion
00:48:08.900 around our
00:48:10.160 concerns with
00:48:11.140 children in the
00:48:12.060 footprint,
00:48:12.420 particularly as
00:48:13.740 the situation
00:48:15.580 there was
00:48:15.980 becoming more
00:48:16.540 volatile.
00:48:17.800 So, I was
00:48:18.540 the one who was
00:48:19.100 liaising with
00:48:19.660 the Children's
00:48:20.180 Aid Society
00:48:20.900 and they were,
00:48:23.060 that was something
00:48:24.080 in gaps we
00:48:25.220 identified,
00:48:25.780 that was a gap
00:48:26.480 that we identified.
00:48:27.440 I should have had
00:48:28.120 conversations with
00:48:29.180 them prior to that
00:48:30.260 announcement being
00:48:31.120 made but as a
00:48:32.480 result of the
00:48:33.280 announcement we
00:48:34.000 were able to
00:48:35.020 work together to
00:48:36.220 identify the
00:48:37.080 proper mechanisms
00:48:38.000 that we would use
00:48:38.940 in the event
00:48:39.680 that we did
00:48:41.140 identify children
00:48:43.660 who needed,
00:48:44.720 do needed support
00:48:45.720 within the red
00:48:46.520 zone.
00:48:47.180 But the idea to
00:48:48.380 start seizing kids
00:48:49.380 actually came from
00:48:50.820 the Prime Minister's
00:48:51.720 office.
00:48:53.160 Navigator just
00:48:53.880 bundled it up into
00:48:55.060 a nice communication
00:48:55.960 strategy.
00:48:57.180 Let me show you
00:48:57.900 these documents.
00:48:59.480 It's on page 7 of
00:49:00.960 a summary of a
00:49:01.960 call made on
00:49:02.840 February 6th
00:49:04.120 between the City
00:49:05.020 of Ottawa,
00:49:05.900 the Federal
00:49:06.300 Government and
00:49:07.460 the Provincial
00:49:08.060 Government of
00:49:08.620 Ontario.
00:49:09.060 The call
00:49:09.500 includes senior
00:49:10.180 managers at the
00:49:10.960 City of Ottawa,
00:49:12.180 Chief of Police
00:49:12.920 at the time,
00:49:13.460 Peter Slowly,
00:49:14.560 representatives from
00:49:15.360 Public Safety
00:49:15.920 Canada,
00:49:16.480 Brenda Luckey,
00:49:17.220 the RCMP
00:49:17.720 Commissioner,
00:49:18.660 and other
00:49:19.240 public safety
00:49:20.140 and emergency
00:49:21.100 officials.
00:49:22.280 And finally,
00:49:23.400 Jody Thomas,
00:49:24.700 Justin Trudeau's
00:49:25.440 National Security
00:49:26.260 Advisor, and I
00:49:27.000 think it's important
00:49:27.540 to note that
00:49:28.540 she's a woman
00:49:29.140 despite her
00:49:30.120 gender-neutral
00:49:30.980 name because as
00:49:31.920 a woman, I
00:49:33.040 find the
00:49:33.820 suggestion she
00:49:34.780 makes here
00:49:35.440 absolutely
00:49:36.560 despicable.
00:49:37.860 Again, I say
00:49:38.540 it's on page
00:49:39.040 7 of these
00:49:39.660 notes, I'll
00:49:40.100 publish them
00:49:41.160 for you so
00:49:41.800 you can read
00:49:42.280 them for
00:49:42.640 yourself, don't
00:49:43.240 take my word
00:49:43.780 for it.
00:49:44.620 She says,
00:49:45.600 as a parent,
00:49:46.260 how is enforcement
00:49:47.020 officials addressing
00:49:47.920 the children in
00:49:48.940 the trucks?
00:49:49.780 Looking at it
00:49:50.320 from a child
00:49:50.960 welfare perspective,
00:49:52.600 exposure to
00:49:53.360 no's, I think
00:49:54.040 they mean noise
00:49:54.780 here, and diesel
00:49:56.020 fuel can be a
00:49:57.400 major issue.
00:49:58.540 Can action be
00:49:59.520 taken from the
00:50:00.980 initial perspective?
00:50:01.920 this woman
00:50:04.380 wanted the
00:50:04.900 kids taken.
00:50:06.420 You see, the
00:50:07.100 government had
00:50:07.620 taken the
00:50:08.040 fuel, they
00:50:08.880 were going to
00:50:09.740 take bank
00:50:10.220 accounts, they
00:50:11.400 were towing
00:50:11.940 trucks, and
00:50:13.220 this is all
00:50:13.980 after the
00:50:14.540 government over
00:50:15.340 the last two
00:50:16.000 years had taken
00:50:16.780 their jobs, their
00:50:18.140 freedom of
00:50:18.700 movement, their
00:50:20.160 ability to go to
00:50:21.960 school or go
00:50:22.600 about with their
00:50:23.800 faces unobscured,
00:50:25.100 their ability to
00:50:25.700 go to church and
00:50:26.420 the numbers they
00:50:26.960 wanted, their
00:50:27.460 ability to visit
00:50:28.700 their elderly and
00:50:29.640 have whomever
00:50:30.300 they wanted, over
00:50:31.820 into their homes
00:50:32.700 during the
00:50:33.820 holidays, and
00:50:34.880 then the
00:50:35.160 government was
00:50:36.000 going to take
00:50:36.500 their kids when
00:50:37.400 they finally stood
00:50:38.120 up.
00:50:38.620 This trucker
00:50:39.200 commission is
00:50:39.720 exposing just how
00:50:40.560 evil our
00:50:41.220 government has
00:50:41.800 been to its
00:50:42.220 own citizens.
00:50:43.520 What did the
00:50:43.980 convoy really do
00:50:44.960 except want to
00:50:46.700 be free from a
00:50:47.960 tyrant?
00:50:48.800 For Rebel News,
00:50:49.820 I'm Sheila
00:50:50.240 Gunn-Reed.