A busy week for Rebel News, but a terrible week for Canadian democracy. I explain why, and why I think the voters were the losers in the week leading up to the debate. And why the debate itself was a disaster.
00:00:00.000Hello, my friends. What a busy, incredible week it was for Rebel News.
00:00:04.100Starting on Labor Day, where we were putting together a legal case to bust into the leaders'
00:00:08.740debate that happened. Tuesday was the trial. Wednesday was the court ruling. Wednesday night
00:00:13.120was the first debate. Last night was the second one. I'm going to sum up a great week for us,
00:00:19.200but a terrible week for Canadian democracy. And I'll explain why I think that way.
00:00:24.280Anyways, I'd encourage you to get the video version of this podcast because there's lots
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00:00:49.180Now, after the election, we're going to put the haywall back up. And my hope is
00:00:52.000you'll like it enough to stick around. All right, here's today's podcast.
00:00:58.000Tonight, what a week. But in so many ways, the voters were losers. It's September 10th and this
00:01:16.600is the S. Real Vance Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:23.780There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to the
00:01:29.360government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:33.720I can't even believe it's Friday already. Monday was Labor Day and we were laboring,
00:01:43.980especially our lawyers who worked all along weekend. They didn't get a vacation at all
00:01:49.280because they were working on our emergency challenge to the ban of 11 Rebel News reporters
00:01:55.480who had applied to attend this year's leadership debates. Now, normally, why would you have to
00:02:00.860apply to attend? And why would the government be able to say no to you? Well, it's because Justin
00:02:05.680Trudeau nationalized the leaders debates in this country a few years ago. And it's something to keep
00:02:10.980in mind. Why would you nationalize something like that? There was never any call for nationalizing it.
00:02:16.600Who would want that? What kind of mindset would say, I must take that over and governmentize it?
00:02:22.000And that'll become clear as I discuss what happened later in the week. So Monday, we actually, it was on
00:02:29.980Sunday where we submitted our material to the judge. On Monday, the government submitted their material
00:02:38.420to the judge. So the judge was working on the weekend too. And then Tuesday, we had the three-hour
00:02:44.520Zoom trial. 2,000 people were watching the trial on Zoom. That's an enormous number. But oh, the judge
00:02:53.160kept us on tinterhooks. She did not release her ruling until Wednesday morning, the day of the first
00:03:02.180debate. And I couldn't believe it. Total victory. Absolutely accrediting our 11 journalists. Immediately
00:03:11.520making us pretty much tied for the largest delegation. Now, she did say that some of our journalists had
00:03:17.620to participate telephonically as opposed to in the room. But others had to also. The Toronto Star was
00:03:23.140on the phone, for example. So I didn't get too huffy about that. We were there with one of the largest
00:03:30.060delegations. I already showed you what happened the first night. Our journalists did a great job.
00:03:36.240The second night, last night, I want to give you a little bit of an update on it. But I just want
00:03:41.680to tell you what I make of it. Because now we've settled down on Friday. It's been a busy week.
00:03:46.760I think it's been one of the most successful weeks that Rebel News has had since we were born. I told
00:03:50.540our staff at a meeting that I've never been this proud in our six and a half years. I think we worked
00:03:55.820the best as a team. We made the biggest difference. We fought for freedom. We actually won in court.
00:04:00.600There were so many things we did right. But I have to say, other than the anecdotes of what our company
00:04:06.460did and the little victories we had along the way, I think it was awful debates. And I think
00:04:12.220that it was a failure for voters looking for information. It was a success only if you look
00:04:21.180at it from the point of view of the government that nationalized the debates and why. It worked
00:04:28.240for insiders. It worked for the establishment. It shed a light on nothing. There were no revelations.
00:04:36.740There was no moment where the status quo was challenged. Who does that serve? It serves the
00:04:44.780incumbents, serves the insiders and the establishment. It had the simulation of a debate. But it was fake
00:04:55.960in that way. It was a real debate for Justin Trudeau and Aaron O'Toole and that those people should be
00:05:02.340there leading parties. And they argued back and forth gently. The differences between them are
00:05:06.980quite minor. They were trying to outdo each other about who was vaccinated the most or who would
00:05:12.080embrace green energy the most. I think that besides that duopoly of the liberals and the conservatives,
00:05:20.880and I say this as a former conservative, there's really not a lot of difference between the two
00:05:25.400parties these days, whether it's carbon taxes or open borders, migration or on firearms. But there
00:05:33.200were, of course, three other parties in the room, none of whom had any chance at breaking the duopoly,
00:05:41.420the conservatives and liberals. But they gave, like I say, the simulation. It's like a placebo
00:05:46.580medicine. It makes you feel like something's real. The NDP will never form government, thank God.
00:05:53.580Jagmeet Singh is a deeply unserious man. The Green Party was there, again, as a simulation of, well,
00:06:00.620if you're really protesting things, you can go green. And the Bloc Québécois, by definition,
00:06:07.500cannot change things. They're not running to be government. The leader of the Bloc himself joked
00:06:13.580that for him, the difference between the liberals and the conservatives is like the difference between
00:06:17.720sugar pie or apple pie. He'll have them both because from his point of view, he just wants to
00:06:22.740see what he can extract. So besides the Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Lumma, the liberals and the conservatives,
00:06:28.100you had three other contestants in this debate, but they were just there as misdirection, as a fakery
00:06:36.640that anything was actually contested. Because all five of the candidates on the key issues of the day
00:06:43.940were in violent agreement with each other. None of them opposed the lockdowns in principle. None of them
00:06:51.280would say they're against the looming vaccine mandates. None of them would say, well, maybe we're
00:06:56.820overdoing things. None of them said we've led to, you know, the way we're treating children and injecting
00:07:02.080them and masking them is inappropriate and actually more dangerous. None of them said that. And so when
00:07:07.280you have those fringe parties, those dissident protest parties, the Greens and the Bloc and the
00:07:12.500NDP, it was fake. They're all in harmony. And let me show you a video that they recorded last night
00:07:19.560when they were all together, the five candidates. They actually made a joint video. Take a look at this.
00:07:27.900We're all in this together. We've come so far in the fight against COVID. It's time to finish this
00:07:33.680pandemic for good. So get vaccinated. If you know someone who hasn't, talk to them. For our kids,
00:07:39.840for our communities, for our economy. It's how we get forward together. Vaccines are safe and effective
00:07:46.640for use. Vaccines are the best way for you to protect yourself, your family and your community.
00:07:52.180So get vaccinated. Let's fight COVID-19 together.
00:07:55.500We all agree getting vaccinated is the way forward. We're all in agreement. This is not a partisan issue. So please get vaccinated.
00:08:02.500We're united and it's time to get the shot. Vaccines save lives. They're how we're going to beat COVID and it's time for everyone to do it. Get the shot.
00:08:12.500Get the shot. Now I have no problem with people taking the vaccine. In fact, there might be some people for whom they should take the vaccine. Who am I to judge? Judge for yourself.
00:08:22.500Ask your doctor. Get advice. Think about it from your point of view. Your own risk. Are you in your 70s or 80s? Do you have underlying conditions? Are you fat? That's one of them. Do you have other problems? Maybe the vaccine's right for you. How would I know?
00:08:38.500It's your body. But what they claim in that video that I found a lie is that they were all in this together. But no, we're not. We don't all agree on it.
00:08:50.500And of course, not everyone is being forced to vaccinate. For example, I see the Toronto Police Union, the Toronto Transit Union are saying we're not going to be vaccinated, but others will be and they'll be punished. Students banned from schools.
00:09:05.500People fired from Air Canada. People fired from Air Canada. People fired from Alberta Health Services. So we're not in it together. There's the ruling class and then there's a class being punished. That was one lie in that video.
00:09:20.500Another lie is that the, as if the issue is get vaxxed. 80% of adults are already vaxxed. That's far more than is necessary for herd immunity. If the vaccine actually worked. Now we're hearing that you need to get the unvaccinated vaxxed to protect the vaccinated.
00:09:38.500And that's why we're hearing that you need to get the unvaccinated vaxxed to protect the vaccinated.
00:09:49.500But how does that make any sense? Doesn't being vaccinated protect you? And if it doesn't, how does getting this guy vaccinated protect you if it didn't protect you? It just doesn't make any sense.
00:10:03.500I thought it was particularly odious that they included the Bloc Hebecois leader in not just the French language debate two nights ago, but in last night's English language debate. Again, it was a simulation of disagreement. It was in a way controlled opposition.
00:10:18.500Having the Bloc Hebecois there was simply a way to bash Western Canada, bash the oil sands, bash Alberta. And if you look at the goals of the Green Party, the NDP and the Bloc, all of them can be summed up with bigger governments in an establishment approved way.
00:10:40.500The Greens would say spend more money on the global warming crisis. The Bloc would say spend more money in Quebec. And the NDP would simply say spend more money.
00:10:52.500So, as you can see, if you look at the debate through the lens of the establishment, those three alleged protest parties, opposition parties, are actually just auxiliaries of the establishment saying spend more, more government.
00:11:05.500There wasn't actually any true differences of opinion. It was especially the chutzpah of having a Bloc Quebecois leader in the English language debate targeting English candidates where he's running no candidates, where he has contempt for the English.
00:11:21.500It was incredible. And you would think, imagine having the Maverick Party. That's that Western rights party. Would you have the Maverick Party in the French language debate to talk to Quebecers, even though they're not running there? No, it would be absurd.
00:11:34.500Well, no more absurd than having the Bloc in the English debate, except for the Bloc only represents one party in the Maverick Party is running in four provinces.
00:11:44.500I think that last night Jagmeet Singh showed that he is a deeply empty man. If you can be deep and empty at the same time, there's nothing there.
00:11:52.500He's a bit of a clothes horse who smiles and is hip with the kids on TikTok. He records little TikTok videos, which is not something most grown men would do.
00:12:01.500But that's about his level, the low information voter. That's what he's after. He's competing with Trudeau for that.
00:12:08.500Annemie Paul, who is the hapless Green Party leader, hapless is the word that comes to mind.
00:12:14.500She's fighting a civil war within her own party. She's unlikely to win her own seat.
00:12:19.500And failing to do so, she'll likely be thrown out the window by her own party.
00:12:23.500And she was such low energy and didn't have things to say on many subjects.
00:12:28.500Some of the questions, for example, the questions about foreign policy, she simply said, we don't have a policy on certain issues.
00:12:35.500We don't, she said. It was sort of pitiful to have her there and not to have Maxime Bernier,
00:12:43.500who everything I said about the narrative and spend more money and agreeing that vaccines and vaccine passports are the way and pandering to Quebec.
00:12:54.500Every one of those establishment narratives are broken by Maxime Bernier, which is precisely why they had to keep him out, even though he has higher polling polling results than the Bloc or the Greens.
00:13:10.500And he's coming up on the MVP. As we showed last night on the live stream, if you watched it, the People's Party is now at 11 percent.
00:13:17.500Now, that's nowhere near enough to win. And it's doubtful that they will actually break into first place in any given riding.
00:13:25.500But it's more than the Bloc and the Greens combined. And he's running nationwide.
00:13:32.500And yet they didn't allow him in. That tells you everything you need to know about the debate.
00:13:37.500But there were some signs of strain in this violent agreement, as I call it.
00:13:43.500At the last minute, they changed the agenda. They had said they weren't going to talk about foreign policy at all, the Government Debate Commission.
00:13:50.500But they were so roundly mocked about that, given the thousand day anniversary of the kidnapping of the two Michaels and given the disaster in Afghanistan that they jammed some questions in about that.
00:14:00.500I think they were ashamed of themselves. I think Trudeau himself was agitated all night and he was a little bit angry, certainly angry at us.
00:14:08.500He was agitated and angry in a way that is very off brand for him.
00:14:13.500Remember when he first ran in 2015? It was all sunny ways.
00:14:17.500He would talk like this and smile and shake his head a bit and talk about how sunny he was compared to that angry man, Stephen Harper.
00:14:25.500Well, Justin Trudeau was the angry man last night, wasn't he? I don't think it looked good on him.
00:14:31.500But I think what shone through like a bright light.
00:14:34.500They didn't mention the name Maxime Bernier all night.
00:14:37.500They didn't mention the People's Party all night.
00:14:39.500They did not acknowledge that there's any other way to look at the world other than through the establishment way.
00:14:43.500They didn't. They just didn't. They pretended like it never existed.
00:15:10.500And for example, we mentioned Maxime Bernier and we asked Annamie Paul, why are you here?
00:15:18.500But not someone with triple your support.
00:15:21.500And what have you had to say about it?
00:15:23.500That question was put by our David Menzies. Take a look.
00:15:25.500Good evening, Miss Paul. Hope you're doing well.
00:15:28.500Miss Paul, clearly this debate is an insider's club for the political establishment.
00:15:34.500It banned Maxime Bernier of the People's Party of Canada, even though he was a head of the Bloc Quebec law and Jerome Party, the Green Party, in the polls.
00:15:45.500It banned me and Rebel News from even reporting until the federal court said that was illegal.
00:15:54.500Why have you not spoken out against this?
00:15:58.500Don't you think all voices should be heard in Canada?
00:16:03.500Thank you for the question. We did have an opportunity to provide recommendations to the Commission establishing the rules for the debates.
00:16:15.500And certainly from our perspective, having more debates is incredibly important.
00:16:21.500It is incredibly disappointing that we only had two hours to discuss so many important issues.
00:16:28.500We spent, I think, 10 minutes or 20 minutes talking about Indigenous peoples, for instance.
00:16:34.500I don't think we spent even 10 minutes speaking about Afghanistan.
00:16:37.500So we can see what this new system has created.
00:16:41.500It's created less opportunities for people in Canada to get to know the parties, to get to know the leaders of those parties, to get to know our positions.
00:16:50.500That's not a good thing for democracy.
00:16:52.500In the case of those parties who are not included, I think we do need to find a way for small parties who are trying to establish themselves to have a way of participating and getting known.
00:17:05.500Otherwise, we do have the same old parties constantly monopolizing the discussion.
00:17:11.500I give Annamie Paul credit for actually answering that question and for saying, yeah, the more the better.
00:17:18.500You can tell she's not actually from the establishment like Elizabeth May would be.
00:17:23.500Elizabeth May for sure would say, keep Maxine Bernier out.
00:17:26.500But Annamie Paul has not yet been fully inculcated in the ways of the cartel.
00:17:31.500But she was actually the only one to truly answer our questions all night.
00:17:36.500The Bloc Québécois leader has made it clear that he won't talk to us at all.
00:17:41.500Here's our Lincoln Jay putting a question to him saying, is this how you're going to treat outsiders?
00:17:49.500Mr. Blanchet, Trudeau calls people who disagree with him those people and threatens them with consequences.
00:17:56.500Are you the same way? Do you think there are millions of Canadians who simply don't deserve to participate in politics, journalism or even in the economic life of Canada if they disagree with you on issues like vaccine passports?
00:18:11.500Je ne réponds pas aux questions de Rebel News.
00:18:13.500Now, of course, he didn't answer Lincoln Jay. Why should he? He's not looking for votes last night.
00:18:18.500He was just looking to be like a court jester, an entertainer.
00:18:21.500I mean, he he was a tourist last night.
00:18:24.500He has no no candidates running an English candidate.
00:18:27.500He was just there to pretend that there was a debate going on.
00:18:30.500He was controlled opposition in a way.
00:18:32.500You know, you could count on him to say give more money to Quebec and punish the oil sands more in the name of global warming.
00:18:39.500So mission accomplished. He didn't care about answering Lincoln Jay's question.
00:18:45.500Jagmeet Singh, on the first debate, refused to answer questions from Rebel News.
00:18:52.500He refused a great question from Alexa LaVoie.
00:18:55.500Then our own Catherine Krasnowski was right afterwards and said, why are you treating us like that?
00:19:02.500So we had two questions to Jagmeet Singh on the first night he refused to answer.
00:19:08.500So last night, Sheila Gunn-Reed had a question that Jagmeet Singh and she focused in on him like a laser on it.
00:19:16.500I thought this was a great question from Sheila. Take a look.
00:19:19.500You're saying the polls show that your party is between 15 and 20 percent.
00:19:24.500No party here on the stage tonight is even close to representing a majority of Canadians.
00:23:26.500J'ai partagé de France, pour faire beaucoup de奨omie de France,
00:23:29.500et il va montrer que c'est �T Brisel それ par
00:23:49.320Well, hang on. We actually pay you to be the prime minister. And this was a government-run circus that you put together, the only English language debate, and you are refusing to answer a question of interest to millions of Canadians? For what?
00:24:04.100I mean, whatever sins you accuse me or Rebel News of, Alexa is surely not guilty herself. She's fairly new to our team, and she's outstanding. But it showed you the contempt Trudeau has for anyone or anything or any ideas outside the pre-screened bubble of this fake debate.
00:24:24.580This is what they would have done to Maxime Bernier had he been in there, the contempt and the hatred for him. Now, he didn't sue his way in like we did. The contempt that they have for Bernier and the contempt that they have for Alexa Lavois is actually not the contempt that they have for me or Rebel News. It's the contempt they have for you, for daring not to submit to the way they say the world ought to be.
00:24:50.880Well, there's low interest in the debate. It was so boring. It was so poorly run. Even in the question-and-answer scrums, they took away the supplementary question for reporters so they couldn't follow up on the rudeness of the candidates.
00:25:05.580Compare the low interest in the debates with the high interest. Look at these crowds here, pictures of Maxime Bernier's rallies across the country, easily the largest of any party.
00:25:16.500I don't know. I don't know. Can you call it the purple wave? Maybe the polls are just a blip, but maybe people are waking up to the fact that you've got the five-party cartel and you've got the one outsider. I don't know.
00:25:28.500I want to show you some real news, though, because in these official leaders' debates, they had a lot of fake news. In the Quebec language debate two nights ago, they actually brought in a child actor to read some questions about global warming.
00:25:41.080And all the politicians, one after the other, pandered to this child, saying how much they agree with him. He said, I have to. This is a child. This is a setup, a stunt. This is not the real news of the day.
00:25:51.100Let me show you something that a child should actually be asking about. But a child doesn't read the Telegraph of London, so maybe what the parents of a child should be asking about.
00:26:03.280This is a real story in the Telegraph of London, one of the most prestigious newspapers in the entire United Kingdom.
00:26:10.080It shows that for teenage boys, they are six times as likely to be admitted to hospital for heart inflammations as they are to be admitted to hospital for the coronavirus itself.
00:26:25.800The so-called cure is six times riskier to teenage boys than the virus the vaccine is meant to cure.
00:26:34.280And yet, in the UK, they are dead set on injecting it into teens, just like we already do here in Canada.
00:26:43.680That was the kind of question Alexa was talking about. And that question was never put in two nights worth of government debates. Do you see what I mean?
00:26:54.860They had enormous conversations on wokeness, on should there be aboriginal official languages, on should flags be at full mast or half mast, and what Paris global warming targets should we meet and how fast.
00:27:11.820All these fake debates to give the simulation of disagreement and the simulation of engagement with the issues of the day,
00:27:20.140and yet something that millions of Canadian moms are worried about, well, the vaccine hurt my kids, never was raised.
00:27:28.620Like I say, it was a fake debate. And all the media there were fake media because they were all on the payroll except for us.
00:27:35.380That's why they were all raging against us.
00:27:38.280That's why I don't agree with that video I showed you earlier of the five politicians saying, we're all in this together.
00:27:45.680No, we're not, mate. Your little club is all in it together, just for you.
00:27:51.860But you've pushed everyone else outside, and he won't even give us the courtesy of talking to us.
00:27:57.660I think that it was a disastrous week for our democracy.
00:28:01.600But it was a great week for us at Rebel News, who showed that if you fight, sometimes you can win.
00:28:08.240And just because Trudeau and his cartels say freedom doesn't matter, and independent press doesn't matter,
00:30:21.080I think what it does is that it stops Canadians from hearing that one dissenting voice that is needed for Canadians to be able to make a choice,