EZRA LEVANT ｜ Who is the populist mob： lockdown skeptics, or the forced vaccine people？
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In today's show, I take on the word populist. I regard myself as a populist and a conservative, but populist to the media and to the establishment means something dangerous and harmful and unruly. Is that true? Or is the majority rule forcing vaccines into people s arms, denying them civil rights, is in fact the mob, the majority? I ll take you through my thoughts on that.
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Hello, my rebels. In today's show, I take on the word populist. I regard myself as a populist and
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a conservative, but populist to the media and to the establishment means something dangerous and
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harmful and unruly. But is that true? Or is in fact the majority rule forcing vaccines into
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people's arms, denying them civil rights, is in fact the mob, the majority? I'll take you through
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Tonight, who is the populist mob? Lockdown skeptics or the forced vaccine people? It's October 21st,
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
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For most of my life, I've been called the populist, and I've accepted that as part of my identity. I think I'm conservative, too, and I have other ideas, but to me, populism was what Preston Manning talked about in the Reform Party 30-odd years ago that I joined as a teenager.
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As he called it, the common sense of the common man, he sometimes used other phrases, too. Bottom-up decision-making as opposed to top-down decision-making.
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Skepticism about elitists. And let me explain that word. Not necessarily hostility to someone who is elite, as in the best, like an elite athlete.
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You can be elite. You can be the best. You can be the smartest and still not be elitist. Elitism, I think it's a kind of snobbery, an assumption that you're better than someone morally, politically, as a human, and so their point of view doesn't count.
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That's different from, let's say, being an elite surgeon, where you simply are the best objectively, but you don't need to be a snob about it.
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Elitism overvalues credentials. They overvalue symbols of pedigree. I see it all the time in journalism.
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You know, I think we have just one journalist school grad here at our whole shop, whereas I'm thinking you probably can't even get hired at the CBC without a journalism degree.
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But I know who the better reporters are on any given day, and it ain't the government journalists that Trudeau's estate broadcaster.
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Being populist to me means listening to people who actually work for a living, not just those who have the luxury lifestyle of being paid to give opinions, which really isn't work.
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One of the things that bothers me about elitists is their refusal to use plain language.
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And I don't believe it's because they're smarter. Smart people believe in communicating effectively and clearly.
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The overuse of jargon, the invention of fake words like Latinx, and using complicated words where simple words will do.
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That's not about improving communication. It's about making it harder to keep out outsiders.
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Use jargon. Use acronyms. Denounce other people's languages.
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Obsolete or even racist. That's a form of elitism.
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William F. Buckley, who was quite an intellectual himself, once said he'd rather have the country run by the first 100 names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.
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I mean, would any of the Harvard faculty have real-life experience making ends meet, having to deal with losing a job, having to live in parts of town where crime was a factor, being in the army, etc.?
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I think one of the reasons why Jordan Peterson is so popular, and one of the reasons he is so hated amongst other professors, is because he uses plain language, and he speaks in practical terms, and he believes in simplicity.
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His first instruction in his last book was being, stand up straight.
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That's so different from the deliberately foggy words and meaning of most professors.
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The fact that he's a hero of the people makes him even more despised by the fancy folks.
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Remember, they tried to drive him out of the University of Toronto when he dared to dissent from them.
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So I've always liked being a populist, even though I respect elite achievements.
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And I found that being a populist coexisted fairly well with my beliefs in conservatism.
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And by that, I usually mean smaller government.
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A belief in elitism is a belief in the experts, in that they not only know best, but they have higher morals than the lowly people do.
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Populists, by nature, wouldn't want to yield too much to the state.
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You can see how all this would apply to the pandemic, I think.
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In the early days, everyone listened very carefully to the experts as we trusted in their excellence, their elitist knowledge, their deep history in these matters, infections and whatnot.
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But we've since learned that a lot of the elites had no clue either.
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This just still boils me away whenever I think about it.
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He admitted that this whole social distancing thing, this six-foot separation thing, was just made up.
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We know that the mask rules flipped and then flopped and then flipped again and then flopped again.
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People should not be walking around with masks.
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Let me just state for the record that masks are not theater.
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Wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better.
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But it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is.
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There has not been any indication that putting a mask on and wearing a mask for a considerable period of time has any deleterious effects.
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People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.
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And can you get some schmutz sort of staying inside there?
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Let me show you a bit of Anthony Fauci on that.
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Because the real world effectiveness is even more impressive than the results of the clinical trial.
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So do these experts really know what they're talking about?
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And put aside expertise, are they corrupted in some cases?
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It affects the old and the fat and the sick, not the young, the fit and the healthy.
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Just to remind you, here's Alberta's health bureaucrat saying she's going to count anyone staying home sick for any reason.
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She's going to count that as a COVID case without evidence.
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If individuals choose to not get tested for COVID but are home with an illness, they're now counted in the list as being part of that outbreak.
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So experts have put their expertise to the service of the state, to politics.
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We talked about it the other day, especially in regards to doctors losing their reputation.
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But my point today is how populists have been the skeptics this last year and a half.
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And the only party in Canada that has been opposed to the lockdowns as a party is the explicitly populist People's Party of Canada and its leader, Maxime Bernier.
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Unfortunately, they don't have a single seat in Parliament.
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So, yeah, I've accepted that the populists are against the lockdowns.
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The elitists are for it because, of course, they haven't lost a day's pay.
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They love being celebrities, the medical, TV doctors.
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If anything, I think the elitists have had more pay and more power.
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But populism, according to its critics, is akin to a mob.
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To the elitists who are challenged by populism, it's a mob with pitchforks and torches, which they simply define as anyone they can't control.
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But are populists, at least on the lockdowns and the pandemic and the vaccine mandates, are they really the wild ones?
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We have probably covered 100 different anti-lockdown protests across Canada in the past 18 months.
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I've never seen violence against people or property, even once, by an anti-lockdown protester.
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And our dozen reporters covering them have not.
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In fact, I have seen the worst police violence of my life in Canada, in these anti-lockdown protests, in Canada, in the United Kingdom, in Australia.
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Violence and violence arresting individual people, often women and old people, simply for not wearing a mask or something like that.
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The populists, the people, the skeptics, the dissidents, they actually have not been the violent ones.
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The paramilitary enforcer of the elitists, they're the mob.
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But let's move away from the police and the protests.
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What do you call it when the government, even if the majority of the population agrees with it, and I concede that a lot of the population loves these lockdowns and loves the forced vaccines.
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I mean, they're being scared out of their wits.
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What do you call it when the government, emboldened by a rash majority, abuses the civil liberties of the minority?
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But I'm talking about forcing a minority to undergo a medical procedure that is still being tested, for which we know there are side effects, including death.
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On pain of losing all their public rights, from the right to travel, to the right to gather, even to gather at their church, the right to work, the right to privacy.
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Imagine being forced to tell people their most private matters.
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I saw this story the other day in the Toronto Star, Canada's largest newspaper, raging against an Ontario mayor who asked a woman about her menstruation.
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He was trying to see if she had a side effect from the vaccine.
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And the star was raging about the grossness of the violation, violating her most personal private details.
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And when they were done raging at him, they went right back to demanding that you and me and everyone show everyone and anyone our most personal private details on demand every day.
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Oh, only if we want to go to work, school, a restaurant, a train, a plane, whatever.
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How could the same people calling for the violation of our personal privacy rage at that mayor and go right back to being who they were?
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Police usually, but they are the mob these days.
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Walking around the park and then we decide to take a seat, have some tea.
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Police smashing a woman for sitting on a park bench, drinking tea.
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And she asks, she calls out to our reporter, Alvi Amini, to help her.
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Who else are you going to call when the police are the criminals?
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But if police won't stop the mobs, if police are the mobs, maybe the courts will step in?
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The courts didn't even stop Trudeau's COVID detention facilities at airports.
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The Federal Court of Canada, and I know because we sent lawyers there.
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They said this three-day imprisonment on pain of a huge fine, whether you were sick or healthy,
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the court said not only was that constitutional, but it wasn't even a detention.
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Populists are denounced as violent, as harmful, as an unruly mob, as the threat to others,
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as man in the state of nature, you know, ungoverned.
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Populists will commit a war of all against all, which is why we need the Leviathan to
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But I put it to you that, in fact, the populists, the dissenters, the protesters, the objectors,
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They're the ones respecting your autonomy, your privacy, your bodily integrity.
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They're not the ones steamrolling over you and steamrolling over our civil liberties and our
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No, keep that in mind as Trudeau introduces his next mob rule tactic, his censorship plans,
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But the elitists are the ones who are going to use it to protect against harms, they say.
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Sure, I'm a populist, but I'm not part of a violent mob.
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That would be the government of Canada these days.
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Well, soon in Canada, if Justin Trudeau has his way, you will not be able to board an airplane,
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a train, or a ship unless you are double vaccinated.
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And if it's like other jurisdictions around the world, you'll have to keep up with the
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boosters, or you'll fall back into an unvaccinated status.
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I think that's how it is in Israel, where they're already on their fourth shot.
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But Italy, of all the countries, seems to have one of the most brutal approaches.
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Let me show you a video of a woman who is being denied entry to a hospital because she
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doesn't have Italy's Green Pass, as they're called.
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Well, don't think that's too far away in North America.
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We've seen cases of would-be kidney transplant recipients denied their transplants.
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Both the kidney donor and the kidney recipient want to go ahead with the surgery, but the
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government says, no, you both need to be vaxxed.
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More and more, we're having a caste system of the unclean, untervention, as it would have
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Joining us now from Rome is Brie Dale, the Rome correspondent for the Epoch Times, who
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This battle between the government and their Green Pass and millions of Italians is quite
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I'm talking about riot police putting their fire hoses on people.
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This is what you do to violent criminals, but they're really criminalizing millions of
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Yes, unfortunately, we have been seeing this escalation in police activity.
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Now, to kind of do a backtrack, back in the summer, there were protests against the Green
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Pass here in Italy, and workers were protesting because there were arguments to whether or not
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they were going to pass something like the Green Pass law that is currently in place, or they
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were going to continue with the shutdowns and the reopenings and shutdowns, all of which were
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If you walked around Rome, Italy during the early part of the year this year, you would
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have seen so many cafes, so many small businesses completely shut down, and many of them have
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And now with this Green Pass law, and this was incremental.
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So first, in the earlier part of this month, in October, it was that we couldn't go into a
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restaurant, couldn't go into a gym without a Green Pass or the CDC card, we couldn't go
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into museums, and then the Vatican came out and said, we are going to also agree to that,
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and I covered the Vatican, and they went further and said, none of the Vatican can be accessed
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Now, I have gone into St. Peter's without being asked for the Green Pass, but I have also been
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So it's kind of piano piano, as the Italians say, one way or the other, a little by little,
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they are starting to implement it in the Vatican.
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But what has been just overwhelming, which has pushed Ezra, the people to protest, has
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been the implementation of having a Green Pass to work.
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So you cannot work now without having a Green Pass.
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And I should mention, too, in Italy, it isn't just vaccination that you can get a Green Pass
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with every 42 hours, you can go and get the tampone, which is the nasal swab, to be tested,
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and you can also have a temporary Green Pass, Ezra.
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Okay, well, that's an interesting addendum, but it's still insane that the entire country
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is being locked down and run as some sort of biomedical security state.
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I can understand that from a government, even though I oppose it.
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But for the Vatican, I mean, I'm not Catholic myself, but I know a little bit about the story
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and the traditions, and I've read a little bit about Jesus.
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I mean, he was someone who did not say to the lepers, yuck, get away from me, you're unclean.
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I mean, correct me if my recall of the Bible isn't accurate.
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Like, it's shocking to me, like, of all the people in the world, like, I think of Mother
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Teresa, who went to the lowest of the low, the dirtiest, the unhealthiest, and she did
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that by choice and on purpose, because that's where the need was the most.
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I can't even believe that the Vatican would be an extra powerful enforcer of this.
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Right, and I think you also have to kind of look at the repercussions if you, say, had
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an outbreak in the Vatican and potential lawsuits there, potential...
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You know, the Vatican is having to deal with a lot in regards to having to walk the way
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of the world as well as having to lead as religious leaders, and Pope Francis has been
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He believes that it is for the common good to receive the vaccine.
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He has not claimed or he has not supported forced vaccinations in the Vatican itself for
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You can request exemptions, and so that is happening in the Vatican.
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But for the most part, people who work in the Vatican or work for the Vatican are vaccinated.
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But the real question here in Italy at whole, and this is a really big concern for a lot of
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countries who have universal health care is, you know, unlike in the United States, where
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you still have a semblance of privacy for medical purposes, in Europe, you don't when you have
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The government pays for your health care and, in turn, has access to your records.
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And so this is how the government has been overseeing the vaccine.
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And their intent, because of so much of the early days having a horrible effect on the
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population, especially the elderly population in Italy, you know, that has been the message
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But Ezra, I do believe, listening to those who are protesting, such as the protests in Trieste,
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which is the port city there, and also in Genoa, who are also protesting at the ports,
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dock workers are sitting in at these ports right now, protesting peacefully.
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And they had water cannons poured on them for no reason.
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I mean, we did see this past month some violence in Rome in response to this impending law.
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This is now, the law has been actuated, and so people are sitting in and not working.
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But Ezra, we are expecting to have more protests starting on Friday in Trieste.
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They are expecting over 100,000 people at least protesting with the dock workers.
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And I should mention, Ezra, that the New York Times, I actually approached the head of the
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Bureau here in Rome for the New York Times today at a press conference to ask him whether or not
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they were going to update their reports on what they had said was that the protests have fizzled
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And he said, no, they wouldn't, unless there was something in the way of violence or some
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big news out of there that, you know, there's other things going on in the world.
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So there is what seems to be a concerted effort of those in the press to either ignore the
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ongoing protests or to claim opposite from what they are, including claiming that this
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These are both left and right people who are mostly blue-collar, simple people who want to
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It's funny because what I've observed over the last 18 months is that you see elements
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I mean, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is no man of the right.
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You see people who value privacy, civil liberties, bodily autonomy, pro-choice, you would say, people
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who prefer natural approaches to health care as opposed to big pharma approaches.
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I think calling it far right misses half the people.
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And I noticed that in Australia, the real first rebellion was the Construction Workers
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Union in Melbourne suddenly told they all had to get jabbed.
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And then I think of Southwest Airlines, where it was basically a work to rule, a work slowdown
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by pilots and others that caused Southwest Airlines to blink.
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And I think that if there is going to be some action that stops it, it's probably going to
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And I mean, I even think back 40 years ago to the Solidarnosc movement, Solidarity, Lech
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Quillen said it was the workers in the port, if I'm not mistaken.
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And it was Orwell himself who said the proles, the proletariat will save us.
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I think that that's the only way to stop this is to have mass shutdowns by working class people
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because I don't see it from the fancy people, from the elites.
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Is there any political opposition to these vaccine passports, the Green Pass?
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Where are the people who were considered Euroskeptics or right-wingers?
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It was once Lega Nord and considered probably the most conservative wing in Italy.
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And for a while, he was doing very well with the blue-collar workers, the small business
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owners, taking their side on any type of vaccine mandate, calling for choice, calling for privacy,
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calling for restorative measures for the small business.
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But towards the end, there was real pressure on the Italian, within Italian parliament.
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And especially because of their new prime minister, that the only way to re-engage the economy,
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to get things moving again, because most of the Italian economy is based off of tourism.
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And because of the shutdowns and because of all of the measures that were taken last year
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and the year prior to try to stop the influx of, you know, contagion, that nearly drew the
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entire population to a halt, including the working population.
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Ezra, there's something that must be said, and I think not a lot of people are seeing that
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out in the population right now, is the end-to-end choices that have been made throughout multiple
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administrations on this, you know, biological threat and what it means to the economy when
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And I'm doing an article for Newsmax magazine, and I was speaking with an economist yesterday,
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He said, oh, we're going to feel it starting this Christmas.
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He said, what are the two areas that's really going to be impacted?
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So gas prices, natural gas prices, heating is going to go sky high, and food prices.
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We're starting to see it in Italy, and who does that impact the most?
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So this is going to take a while to recover from, and putting additional stress on the
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blue-collar worker, saying you cannot work without this, and especially in a population
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like Italy, it's, we're just, we're seeing what the effect is, is devastating, potential
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Last question, like I said before, Southwest Airlines managed to get their company to blink.
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I see some restaurant chains, Chick-fil-A, In-N-Out Burger.
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I mean, we see individual cases of companies blinking, but again, you have champions like
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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis who were using some levers in the state.
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Is there a chance, you think, that a mass protest in Trieste, or a mass shutdown of the ports,
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do you think that would cause Italy to pull back from the brink, or do you think that they would
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I do think that it's going to continue for a while.
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I think from what I'm hearing from my sources in government, they are starting to listen now.
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But what's really necessary is to keep telling the truth and keep highlighting the fact that
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They are really encouraged in watching Americans, you know, making hard decisions on this and
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watching some leadership out of the United States, as Europe does as well, in general.
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But it's going to be long going, and I think there's going to be some long suffering involved
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for the protesters, and it may be a very long winter as well, Ezra.
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Your feedback to me, Diego Alvarado says, while I was at the Ottawa Hospital's general campus
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getting x-rays on my hand, there were pronoun posters covering the walls at the entrance to
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the orthopedic cosmetic surgery unit and at each attendant's desk.
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The receptionist asked a 60-plus-year-old woman in front of me what her preferred pronouns
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I was shocked, and the lady in line was just confused.
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It was one of the dumbest things I've ever witnessed, and it felt completely forced.
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I showed you that poll, only 4% of Latinos do that.
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They sometimes not only want to make communication opaque and vague and have lots of code words
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so only insiders have the lingo, but I think they want to continually become more and more
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obscure as a weapon to denounce the plain people.
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Alfonso Liberty says, just what kind of world are these Democrats, liberals, and these uber-wokes
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I think that a new age of conservatives is being born.
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Yeah, maybe, maybe to a small extent, but I am afraid of the opposite.
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I'm afraid by the vast compliance, submissiveness, and, as I said earlier, the mob think of the
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Paul Albert says, my pronouns are Your Majesty and His Royal Highness.
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Good luck getting anyone to use those with you, but maybe you have a human rights complaint
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
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And as we do every day, let me leave you with a video selected from the rest of Rebel News'
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Mocha Bezergan for Rebel News here in Manitoba, Steinbeck.
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And I'm here because the pastor of this church got arrested.
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God is able, the crowd sings, as they walk from corner to corner outside of an RCMP detachment.
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This was the scene in Steinbeck, Manitoba, on Monday night, after Pastor Tobias Thyssen
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Pastor Tobias has been in hiding since May, after a warrant for his arrest was issued for
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attending and organizing protests against government restrictions.
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At the time, Manitoba's health bureaucrat, Brent Rosen, forbid Manitobans from gathering
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Accused of failing to comply with Section 90 1B under the Public Health Act, an arrest
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They pulled him over and just arrested him in front of his own children.
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He was taken to the RCMP detachment in Steinbeck, then transferred to the Manitoba Remand Center.
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He has no choice other than to sign a condition saying that he will obey or continue to stay
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Lawyers from Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms are fighting to secure a bail for
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But where does this political will to arrest innocent pastors is coming from?
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We're seeing that kind of becoming a trend across the country.
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You see pastors being torn away from their children, from their families.
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These are people that are trying to actually help the communities, spread knowledge, spread
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And we can see that, you know, there's definitely something seriously wrong.
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Canada has experienced a shockwave of targeted attacks on Christian churches.
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There have been 68 attacks against churches across Canada in the last three months.
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25 of these attacks destroyed the buildings completely.
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The prime minister said their anger was understandable.
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One of my reflections is I understand the anger that's out there against the federal government,
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Gerald Butz, former principal secretary to Trudeau and longtime friend, said that their anger
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But when it comes to Pastor Tobias, when he gave a drive-in church service on the parking
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lot to people who were inside their cars, RCMP blocked the roadway to the church parking
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You want to come, peacefully gather, spread knowledge, hear the word of God, and then all of a
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you have your driveway blocks, so that's quite puzzling.
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And a week later, served Pastor with tens of thousands of dollars in tickets.
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Public health services and the police took the license plates of the attendees to issue
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Was it science when government and courts outlawed drive-in church services?
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I believe in science, but I don't really trust all the scientists because there's so many
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things that you can do for your advantage or the advantage of whatever the agenda is.
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So I feel like the best science, you know, since everyone wants to go by the science, one
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of the best ways to follow that is to actually see what's happening in real life and not just
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what's coming over these mainstream media outlets.
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According to then Premier Brian Pallister, no, his mandates were not based on science.
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I can also say to anyone who's thinking that they should break the public health orders
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is that I've come up with an 11th commandment, which is obey the public health orders.
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And I would encourage everyone to make sure they do that.
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That's the way he chooses to communicate with Christians.
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Would it also be understandable for a man of faith to disobey Pallister's commandments?
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I know him personally, and our children are puzzled about what's happening.
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I visited his family yesterday, and one of his boys had a Bible in his hand asking,
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And, you know, he wanted to say something out of the Bible.
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And it was just very touching to see that's what his father has taught him.
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He's teaching him the right way, and he's being persecuted for that.
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There have been about 10 pastors across Canada who were jailed for opening their churches.
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Where could you seek refuge if the courts are not upholding the charter?
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It would be nice, though, if we could go somewhere and actually depend on somebody.
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It would be nice if we could depend on the police themselves,
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but it seems like they're not exactly doing the job that they should be doing like they should be doing.
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How scientific and lawfully sound is it to arrest pastors and shut down their churches
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when the government doesn't present any evidence of an outbreak that ever happened at any of these churches?
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Whereas there is evidence that an outbreak at the CBC headquarters occurred.
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Or is it only for people who stood outside, exceeding the five-people limitation?
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Here's a picture of the RCMP officers who arrested Tobias, seen maskless and without two-meter distancing.
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Pastor Tobias was released as of Wednesday after spending 45 hours behind bars.
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The conditions he consented to did not infringe on his duties as a pastor,
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but it does infringe on his right to protest government policies related to COVID-19.
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He will appear before a judge in Steinbeck Provincial Court in November.
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I had to fly from Calgary, such as a rental vehicle.
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there was an extra charge because my age is 22.
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But if you could cover these costs, that would be greatly appreciated.
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So that we could continue to bring you the other side of the story.