Rebel News Podcast - July 08, 2022


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Why is Tamara Lich still in prison？ Plus an update from the Netherlands


Episode Stats

Length

41 minutes

Words per Minute

166.21638

Word Count

6,829

Sentence Count

463

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Why is Tamara Leach still in prison? Plus, an update from our friends in the Netherlands on the Farmer Rebellion. Plus, a look at why the Dutch government has a vaccine exemption for journalists, and why it matters.


Transcript

00:00:00.420 Hello, my Rebels. Can you believe it? Tamera Leach is still in prison.
00:00:03.900 The Justice of the Peace, who heard her bail application a few days ago,
00:00:07.500 still hasn't bothered to make a decision.
00:00:09.680 I guess he's got more important things to do than freeing a woman from prison.
00:00:13.500 So he'll let her wait a day, and then another, and then another, and then another.
00:00:17.820 You know, he's not even a judge.
00:00:19.640 I'll tell you more about him and the rest of the stitch-up, as they say.
00:00:23.880 Plus an update from our friends in Holland.
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00:00:55.440 All right, here's today's podcast.
00:01:01.580 Tonight, why is Tamara Leach still in prison?
00:01:15.140 Plus an update from the Netherlands.
00:01:16.860 It's July 7th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:19.760 We're fighting for freedom!
00:01:23.060 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:01:34.480 I'm very excited about our reporters traveling to the Netherlands to follow the Farmer Rebellion.
00:01:39.940 We have a special website set up for that, farmerrebellion.com.
00:01:45.860 We have our Brit, Louis Brackpool.
00:01:49.960 He attended the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, Switzerland, a couple of months ago.
00:01:54.160 And there's a World Economic Forum link to this Dutch crisis.
00:01:57.920 It's really weird.
00:01:58.800 And, of course, we have Lincoln Jay, who just landed in Amsterdam this morning.
00:02:06.720 You may recall him from the Trucker Rebellion in Ottawa.
00:02:09.860 I think he worked something like 23 days straight on that story in Ottawa.
00:02:14.940 He just didn't want to leave.
00:02:16.140 And he really covered it in depth.
00:02:18.020 And sometimes he just live-streamed for hours, just showing people what it looked like.
00:02:23.020 No filter, no editing.
00:02:24.620 I mean, people loved that, because they couldn't get the truth from the media party.
00:02:28.660 The media party just lied and lied.
00:02:30.040 Remember this?
00:02:30.880 I do ask that because, you know, given Canada's support of Ukraine in this current crisis with Russia,
00:02:38.200 I don't know if it's far-fetched to ask, but there is concern that Russian actors could be continuing to fuel things
00:02:47.100 as this protest grows, but perhaps even instigating it from the outset.
00:02:51.660 Well, again, I'm going to defer to our partners in the public safety, the trained officials and experts in that area.
00:03:01.820 What do you expect from Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster?
00:03:04.720 Now, the Dutch farmers have their own grievances that we'll hear about in a moment from a Dutch political commentator,
00:03:11.900 but I have seen a number of them credit the Canadian Trucker Rebellion for their Farmer Rebellion.
00:03:19.560 And that's the website where we're compiling the work from Lewis and Lincoln and two other reporters who are joining us.
00:03:24.760 I don't know, I don't think I mentioned this before, but Katie Davis Court.
00:03:29.260 She's a reporter with the Post Millennial.
00:03:31.260 Well, she'll be coming on our mission, too.
00:03:33.660 She's very brave.
00:03:34.960 She has made a name for herself reporting on Antifa riots in the United States, especially in Seattle and Portland.
00:03:42.440 And we're hoping to have a fourth journalist join as well.
00:03:46.060 I should tell you, it's very interesting.
00:03:47.820 Holland requires vaccines for people from Canada unless they're journalists.
00:03:54.980 That's one of several exemptions.
00:03:57.140 And they specifically say on their embassy's website that the reason they have a vaccine exemption for journalists,
00:04:05.960 as in you don't have to be jabbed, is because they value freedom of the press and freedom of speech.
00:04:11.380 And they don't want their vax rule to impose on that.
00:04:15.140 Isn't that incredible?
00:04:16.520 So you don't have to have a medical exemption.
00:04:19.020 You don't have to have a conscientious exemption.
00:04:21.160 You just have to be going there to shine a light of scrutiny on public policy.
00:04:25.420 And in both cases for Lincoln and Lewis, who are not jabbed, within two days, they got their approval from the Dutch embassy.
00:04:34.580 And I say that because I admire that exemption, that it's expressly for journalists, that it happened so quickly,
00:04:42.680 and that Holland, which calls itself a progressive country, actually is.
00:04:47.680 It's a pro-choice country.
00:04:49.260 I mean, they're very liberal in matters from drugs to prostitution, for example.
00:04:53.920 And indeed, they're liberal on this matter of privacy and medical choice.
00:04:58.460 Whereas Justin Trudeau, who is very liberal on matters of drugs and all other social matters,
00:05:05.660 well, if you don't take the jab, he'll lock you down.
00:05:10.840 Back to the truckers, which were an inspiration in part for these Dutch farmers.
00:05:15.780 What if we heard from Holland that some farmer was arrested and put in prison for more than five months without a trial?
00:05:27.640 Five months pre-trial, thrown in prison, five months.
00:05:31.540 Well, that's happened in Canada.
00:05:33.240 A trucker organizer named Pat King.
00:05:35.680 I have my beefs with Pat King, but five months in prison without a trial?
00:05:39.600 Or how about a friendly grandma, completely peaceful, nearly a month in jail already,
00:05:47.360 the latest spate, for taking a selfie with a political critic of the government?
00:05:53.240 Well, that is what we're talking about today, because Tamera Leach is in a prison in Ottawa tonight,
00:05:58.740 waiting till tomorrow afternoon to hear the results on her bail hearing,
00:06:03.260 even though the bail hearing happened, I think it was on Tuesday.
00:06:06.160 It was a full-day bail hearing on Tuesday.
00:06:11.500 The judge was there, the Justice of the Peace, as it's called.
00:06:14.700 He listened, and he said, well, I don't need an hour to think about this, which would have been fair.
00:06:22.700 He didn't say, I need to think about it overnight, or two nights, or three nights.
00:06:27.120 He said he needed it all the way to Friday afternoon.
00:06:30.860 He didn't give a reason.
00:06:32.120 Did he have something more pressing?
00:06:34.340 Did he have a golf game or something?
00:06:35.980 Did he have a dental appointment?
00:06:37.500 Why was it that he couldn't decide and give a quick oral ruling and then later come up with a written ruling?
00:06:44.700 Why did he have the hearing on Tuesday and yet make Tamera Leach sit in jail Tuesday night, Wednesday,
00:06:52.500 Wednesday night, Thursday, Thursday night, Friday, until 1.30?
00:06:56.800 It's a good question, I think.
00:07:01.520 The judge in this case was actually not a judge, not even a lawyer.
00:07:06.260 He's a Justice of the Peace.
00:07:07.760 His name is Paul Max Harris.
00:07:10.580 And he's not a lawyer.
00:07:13.040 His official biography says he has worked for the federal government for 16 years.
00:07:19.500 He managed procurement policy and reporting at Parks Canada.
00:07:25.400 Now, I do not disparage procurement and other works at Parks Canada.
00:07:31.740 I like Parks and I like Canada.
00:07:33.420 But he's not a lawyer.
00:07:36.520 And he was dealing with technical legal matters.
00:07:39.500 And while he waited, I don't know, to Google the law, I don't know what he was doing for three days,
00:07:44.940 a woman rotted in jail.
00:07:48.180 Does he really need three days to think about it?
00:07:50.100 There is no bail case so complicated that you need three days to think about it.
00:07:54.780 An hour, maybe, probably in real time.
00:07:59.780 Is there any accused murderer who even needs three days of cogitation?
00:08:05.340 Wouldn't you think that for a highly political case where a woman was dragged all the way across the country
00:08:11.300 because she was posing in this photograph,
00:08:14.620 this photograph was all the evidence that she should be jailed,
00:08:19.600 don't you think maybe they should have put a judge in?
00:08:21.520 Or someone with more experience than just working for Parks Canada,
00:08:26.180 someone who needs three days to think about things,
00:08:28.860 and thinks nothing of having someone,
00:08:31.160 like, wouldn't that be on your conscience?
00:08:33.260 How could you sleep at night knowing that because you're so indecisive
00:08:36.580 or don't know what you're doing or you just like to take your sweet time,
00:08:39.720 someone's in prison?
00:08:40.560 Again, not because you ruled that they should be in prison,
00:08:43.440 but just because you're so bloody slow.
00:08:47.200 So why was that person in charge of this bail hearing?
00:08:51.280 You could have had anyone.
00:08:52.180 You could have a judge.
00:08:53.340 You could have a lawyer who was a justice of the peace.
00:08:55.440 Why that person?
00:08:57.260 And why, of all the prosecutors in Ottawa, a city of a million people,
00:09:02.280 why the prosecutor that they chose,
00:09:05.100 a prosecutor who, according to research from our friends at True North,
00:09:08.440 personally donated $17,000 to the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:09:16.700 I mean, $1,700 is an enormous donation.
00:09:20.420 $17,000?
00:09:22.800 And it came out in the hearing that the cop issued a national warrant.
00:09:30.840 That's the kind of thing, as you know, that you do for murders or runaways
00:09:35.200 or like extreme national alerts, not for some tweet picture of a selfie.
00:09:42.320 And we learned from the hearing that the cop who did that did not seek a legal opinion.
00:09:47.600 Of course, police forces have lawyers that they can access,
00:09:51.240 the Justice Department get an opinion from a prosecutor.
00:09:54.240 If there's some iffy area, a cop is not expected to be a lawyer.
00:09:57.580 A cop's a cop.
00:09:58.480 A lawyer's a lawyer.
00:09:59.440 If a cop has questions, he can ask a lawyer.
00:10:01.880 And in this case, that selfie was published in June 16th.
00:10:04.980 She wasn't arrested till much later.
00:10:06.580 That cop had weeks to put the question to a lawyer and say,
00:10:10.780 hey, does this pass muster?
00:10:12.060 Hey, do you think we should issue a national warrant?
00:10:14.340 Hey, do you think we should do that?
00:10:16.160 The cop didn't seek legal advice.
00:10:18.500 He just ordered it.
00:10:20.840 And the cop who was on trial,
00:10:24.060 or not on trial, the cop who was in the witness stand
00:10:26.420 giving his evidence to this non-lawyer
00:10:29.160 at the leading questions of the liberal prosecutor
00:10:33.100 admitted he had no idea who the other people in the room were,
00:10:37.260 who he had no idea who Tamara Leach's lawyers were.
00:10:40.060 He knew nothing about the event,
00:10:42.400 all of which was relevant
00:10:43.560 because her bail conditions clearly said
00:10:46.520 that if she was with her lawyer,
00:10:47.700 she could talk to other truckers.
00:10:50.920 So you have a non-lawyer justice of the peace
00:10:53.520 who takes days and days to make a decision
00:10:56.100 that should take an hour.
00:10:57.620 You have a radical liberal.
00:10:59.200 I say radical.
00:10:59.700 I've never heard of anyone donating $17,000
00:11:02.080 to the Liberal Party of you.
00:11:03.400 Never.
00:11:04.640 You have a cop with a complex matter
00:11:07.560 who doesn't bother looking at the facts
00:11:09.400 and orders a national warrant without legal advice.
00:11:13.440 And bizarrely and grotesquely,
00:11:15.340 the medicine hat police comply like they're under orders.
00:11:18.840 Not a real judge, liberal prosecutor,
00:11:21.620 lone cop, the thinnest of pretexts.
00:11:25.200 And as I talked to you this Thursday night,
00:11:28.220 Tamara Leach is in prison.
00:11:29.440 In Canada, terrorists get bail.
00:11:33.860 Accused terrorists get bail.
00:11:36.720 You know, it's funny, as Sheila mentioned the other day,
00:11:38.960 the cops on this case were from the homicide squad.
00:11:43.780 That's who they put on Tamara Leach's case.
00:11:47.320 Let me tell you what I think.
00:11:49.540 I think this justice of the peace,
00:11:51.180 who's clearly obedient to the government,
00:11:53.820 that's all he knows, that's all he's worked for.
00:11:55.900 He's a creature of Ottawa.
00:11:56.920 He's not a lawyer. He doesn't know the law.
00:11:59.920 I think he's going to keep Tamara Leach in prison.
00:12:01.960 That's my guess.
00:12:03.140 But even if he doesn't, it's outrageous
00:12:04.700 that he kept her three extra days before deciding.
00:12:08.740 And I think a terrible thing is going to happen.
00:12:12.460 You see, I've had a lot of battles in my day,
00:12:14.540 including in court.
00:12:15.340 I've won some and I've lost some.
00:12:19.060 It's better to win.
00:12:20.780 But you can bear a loss in any contest.
00:12:23.880 You can bear a loss in court.
00:12:25.760 You can bear a loss in a sport, in any contest.
00:12:29.460 If you knew the rules in advance and agreed to the rules
00:12:33.700 and the rules were fair,
00:12:34.980 and so when you lose, you say,
00:12:37.380 well, the other side had some luck
00:12:39.760 or they were better or whatever it is,
00:12:41.440 it was a fair deal.
00:12:42.880 I accept the loss
00:12:44.240 and I can bear it because I know it was fair.
00:12:48.340 And if there was a shortfall, it was my own.
00:12:50.080 But what if you no longer feel that way?
00:12:56.280 What if people, Tamara Leach, her supporters
00:12:59.680 and millions of people across Canada say,
00:13:02.160 well, hang on.
00:13:03.840 We know she wasn't charged with anything violent.
00:13:06.020 In fact, it was the laughable charge of inciting mischief.
00:13:09.520 We know she's a sweet grandma who's done nothing wrong.
00:13:12.900 We know it's outrageous that she was helped
00:13:14.980 for 13 days bail in the first place.
00:13:17.200 Outrageous that they sent the homicide cops to get her.
00:13:19.320 Outrageous nine more days
00:13:20.920 before she had a justice of the peace.
00:13:22.620 Outrageous it took three days.
00:13:25.400 And what if, in fact, she's put back in prison?
00:13:29.960 That's extremely tough to bear.
00:13:34.140 It doesn't sound fair.
00:13:36.600 But then if you know that the judge who made the decision
00:13:39.040 wasn't a judge or a lawyer,
00:13:40.200 but a justice of the peace
00:13:41.120 whose sole credential was working for the government.
00:13:43.680 And what if you know that the prosecutor
00:13:45.100 was as partisan as they come
00:13:46.940 and the cop was acting in a manner
00:13:50.860 unguided by the law,
00:13:52.320 what if you then decided,
00:13:54.640 which could be quite reasonable,
00:13:57.360 that the justice system is no longer fair
00:14:00.720 and the rules by which your hero lost
00:14:04.820 were not fair.
00:14:06.660 They were not the rules that others play by.
00:14:10.120 That the game was rigged,
00:14:11.360 that the ref was rigged,
00:14:12.300 that the umpire was rigged,
00:14:13.440 that it was not a level playing field.
00:14:14.840 You can bear losing a game if it's fair.
00:14:17.640 You can bear losing a trial if it's fair,
00:14:19.460 but not if it is unfair.
00:14:21.420 Then you lose trust in the game itself.
00:14:23.660 You lose trust in the institution,
00:14:26.760 in the institution of the police,
00:14:29.500 in the prosecution, in the courts,
00:14:31.280 and in parliament itself.
00:14:32.720 This is dangerous.
00:14:35.100 This is what will radicalize people.
00:14:38.540 Tamara Leach didn't radicalize anybody.
00:14:40.780 She encouraged them to peacefully demonstrate
00:14:43.940 in their national capital,
00:14:45.680 waving the flag and singing O Canada.
00:14:48.160 There was the odd bouncy castle
00:14:50.000 and hot tub party too.
00:14:51.480 That's Tamara Leach.
00:14:52.580 She didn't radicalize anyone.
00:14:54.840 In fact, she brought people back
00:14:56.280 in to the political process.
00:14:58.740 I remember when I spoke to the truckers,
00:15:01.340 they said, what's the point?
00:15:03.100 Why are we here?
00:15:04.320 What will happen?
00:15:05.320 Well, you are the point.
00:15:06.340 Your peaceful demonstration was the point.
00:15:08.080 To show the country that there was not unanimity
00:15:11.700 on the lockdowns and the vaccines.
00:15:14.920 Don't make that a lie.
00:15:16.120 Don't turn that into a lie.
00:15:17.360 Tamara Leach and the truckers normalized
00:15:19.280 and brought protesters back into the process.
00:15:23.220 It is this out-of-control prosecutor,
00:15:26.580 the out-of-control police,
00:15:28.180 and an untutored justice of the peace
00:15:30.600 who are jeopardizing our social cohesion.
00:15:34.740 Because if Tamara Leach is put back in prison tomorrow,
00:15:38.080 and it's an outrage that she had to wait three days
00:15:40.100 to find out in any event,
00:15:42.540 I promise you that will make many, many more people
00:15:46.760 no longer trust a system
00:15:49.020 that they can credibly say was rigged against them.
00:15:54.080 And all the people who would normally squawk
00:15:56.680 if poor Omar Khadr was mistreated in prison,
00:16:01.240 they were silent.
00:16:02.260 The media was silent.
00:16:03.260 The opposition was silent.
00:16:05.140 Where's Pierre Polyev on the subject?
00:16:07.140 Where's Candace Bergen on the subject?
00:16:09.540 Where is that opposition party
00:16:11.640 that briefly hung out with the truckers?
00:16:14.320 Where are they?
00:16:16.000 If Tamara Leach is sent back to prison tomorrow,
00:16:18.640 that one act will do more to radicalize Canadians
00:16:21.400 than anything else in the last two years.
00:16:25.060 Stay with us for more.
00:16:26.120 Lewis, why don't you tell us
00:16:39.380 what exactly is going on here?
00:16:41.680 So, we're in the city of Drekty,
00:16:44.560 and the farmers, the Dutch farmers,
00:16:47.680 have decided to park up
00:16:49.220 right next to a roundabout
00:16:51.540 right in the city centre.
00:16:52.760 And if we just pan round next to us,
00:16:55.980 so many are out in support
00:16:57.980 to show solidarity with the farmers here.
00:17:02.060 So, we're now going to be out
00:17:03.380 talking to people,
00:17:04.820 seeing what they think,
00:17:06.380 asking the farmers why they're here,
00:17:08.180 what is the purpose of this.
00:17:10.980 We were hearing that they were
00:17:12.820 potentially going to the,
00:17:15.180 near to the German border.
00:17:16.620 Yes.
00:17:16.940 What's the word on that?
00:17:18.140 So, according to reports,
00:17:21.500 the farmers will be heading to the A7,
00:17:24.720 which is a highway connecting to the German border.
00:17:28.960 So, reports are showing that potentially
00:17:31.500 German farmers will be
00:17:33.360 coinciding and collaborating
00:17:35.640 with the Dutch farmers.
00:17:37.220 So, this is all allegedly,
00:17:40.080 we're following,
00:17:40.980 we'll see what happens,
00:17:42.160 and we'll keep you guys updated.
00:17:43.880 Make sure you check out
00:17:44.740 farmerrebellion.com
00:17:47.080 for all of our coverage.
00:17:48.740 Thank you.
00:17:49.380 Thanks, guys.
00:17:50.160 Well, that's an exciting video
00:17:51.660 on location in the Netherlands,
00:17:54.220 where Rebel News has sent
00:17:55.800 two reporters so far,
00:17:57.240 Louis Brackpool
00:17:58.680 from the United Kingdom,
00:18:00.160 and our friend Lincoln Jay
00:18:01.400 from Toronto,
00:18:02.560 will have one or two more
00:18:04.400 other rebels joining
00:18:05.800 on the ground
00:18:06.600 to tell the story
00:18:08.420 in English
00:18:09.380 of what's happening
00:18:10.820 in the Netherlands
00:18:11.520 and could actually spread
00:18:13.100 to other parts of Europe
00:18:14.080 and the world.
00:18:15.180 Well, what exactly is going on
00:18:17.280 with the farmer rebellion?
00:18:20.240 Well, let's talk to someone
00:18:22.100 who actually knows
00:18:23.240 in the native language.
00:18:24.840 I'm talking about
00:18:26.040 Eva Vlardingerbroek.
00:18:27.900 You may recognize her
00:18:29.420 from her appearances
00:18:30.400 on GB News in the UK
00:18:31.780 and on Fox News
00:18:33.480 in the United States.
00:18:34.400 And we're delighted
00:18:35.100 to have her join us
00:18:36.140 via Skype today.
00:18:38.480 Eva, what a pleasure
00:18:39.460 to meet you.
00:18:40.100 Thanks for jamming us
00:18:41.480 in your schedule.
00:18:43.180 Welcome.
00:18:43.900 And can you tell us
00:18:45.080 a little bit
00:18:46.060 of what's behind this?
00:18:47.960 Because we can't get the news
00:18:49.500 from the mainstream media.
00:18:51.080 Who are these farmers?
00:18:52.780 Why are they protesting?
00:18:54.240 And how is it going to end?
00:18:56.700 Hi, Ezra.
00:18:57.660 Thank you for having me.
00:18:58.780 Yeah, the Dutch farmers
00:19:00.240 are out on the streets
00:19:01.300 right now protesting
00:19:02.420 a new law
00:19:03.860 that has recently
00:19:05.300 been passed
00:19:05.920 in the Dutch Parliament
00:19:06.860 that basically forces them
00:19:08.860 to give up
00:19:09.880 at least 30%
00:19:11.200 of their livestock
00:19:12.420 before 2030.
00:19:14.240 So the Dutch government
00:19:15.540 is expropriating
00:19:16.780 these farmers' land
00:19:18.080 under the guise
00:19:18.960 of a new nitrogen law.
00:19:20.800 They're saying that
00:19:21.620 the Netherlands,
00:19:22.660 our tiny, small country
00:19:24.160 that you can see on the map,
00:19:25.580 has a dangerous nitrogen crisis
00:19:28.480 that suddenly needs
00:19:29.860 all of these actions
00:19:30.960 and measures
00:19:31.460 and, well,
00:19:32.480 the farmers are the ones
00:19:33.580 that are going to have
00:19:34.260 to pay for it
00:19:34.940 and the state
00:19:35.560 is taking their land.
00:19:37.260 So, obviously,
00:19:38.680 if someone would come
00:19:39.520 into your house
00:19:40.380 and say,
00:19:40.900 I'm going to take 30%
00:19:42.040 of what you own
00:19:42.860 and you have nothing
00:19:43.920 to say about it,
00:19:45.140 you'd be angry too.
00:19:46.300 And that's exactly
00:19:47.100 what these farmers
00:19:47.960 are doing right now.
00:19:48.900 They're showing
00:19:49.540 that they are not
00:19:51.040 having this.
00:19:52.060 So they're out
00:19:52.700 on the street,
00:19:53.560 they're protesting,
00:19:54.620 they have blocked
00:19:55.300 the freeways,
00:19:56.460 they have blocked
00:19:57.000 distribution centers,
00:19:58.080 and they're basically saying
00:19:59.460 this is what is going
00:20:00.620 to happen
00:20:01.120 if you take our land away,
00:20:02.900 we're going to have
00:20:03.560 food shortages
00:20:04.180 because already right now
00:20:05.540 the Dutch supermarkets,
00:20:07.080 a lot of the shelves
00:20:08.180 are empty.
00:20:09.840 Yeah,
00:20:10.100 and here in North America too,
00:20:11.940 inflation is high,
00:20:14.020 especially for food.
00:20:15.680 The idea of deliberately
00:20:17.200 ending 30%
00:20:19.080 of your livestock capacity
00:20:20.440 seems insane,
00:20:21.500 but I just want to get back
00:20:22.740 to the one word
00:20:23.700 that stuck in my ear.
00:20:25.140 I've heard for years
00:20:26.580 people talk about
00:20:28.040 carbon dioxide
00:20:29.120 and carbon emissions,
00:20:30.520 and I happen to know
00:20:31.820 that carbon is one
00:20:32.700 of the most common elements.
00:20:34.440 You can see it
00:20:35.280 in the word
00:20:35.620 carbohydrate or carburetor.
00:20:37.520 We're made in large part
00:20:39.180 from carbon trees.
00:20:40.860 It's a building block
00:20:41.980 of so much,
00:20:43.000 and you can believe
00:20:44.440 in the theory
00:20:45.000 of man-made global warming
00:20:46.740 or not,
00:20:47.580 but that's carbon dioxide.
00:20:50.400 Nitrogen,
00:20:51.300 that's just another element
00:20:52.600 in the periodic table.
00:20:54.040 I think most of air
00:20:55.860 is nitrogen,
00:20:57.360 like more than three-quarters
00:20:58.460 of what makes up air
00:20:59.680 is nitrogen
00:21:00.760 and there's oxygen.
00:21:01.880 I've just never heard
00:21:03.140 nitrogen,
00:21:04.540 which is all around us,
00:21:06.380 being called
00:21:06.940 an enemy
00:21:07.600 of anything.
00:21:09.960 What are they worried
00:21:11.440 about with nitrogen?
00:21:13.060 It sounds laughable to me.
00:21:15.380 It is laughable,
00:21:16.400 and that is what you should
00:21:17.220 take away from this.
00:21:18.120 It's not a real crisis.
00:21:19.940 Obviously,
00:21:20.660 nitrogen isn't a problem,
00:21:22.240 especially not
00:21:23.160 when you consider
00:21:24.100 the fact that,
00:21:24.820 well,
00:21:25.080 the Netherlands,
00:21:25.660 like I said,
00:21:26.040 is such a small piece of land.
00:21:27.740 We have our neighboring countries,
00:21:29.660 Belgium and Germany,
00:21:31.140 that don't have to implement
00:21:32.480 any of these measures,
00:21:33.680 but the Dutch government
00:21:34.480 is doing it.
00:21:35.520 And the real reason,
00:21:36.520 obviously,
00:21:36.960 behind it
00:21:37.380 is that the Dutch state
00:21:38.380 wants the farmers' land.
00:21:40.500 Because probably,
00:21:41.560 there are a couple of reasons.
00:21:42.560 So the farmers,
00:21:43.520 first of all,
00:21:44.080 they're a group in society
00:21:45.160 that are very self-reliant.
00:21:47.140 They are basically
00:21:47.780 ungovernable in that sense.
00:21:49.340 You know,
00:21:49.480 they own a lot
00:21:50.620 of the Dutch land
00:21:51.620 and they,
00:21:52.640 well,
00:21:53.100 they produce
00:21:53.820 agricultural products.
00:21:55.200 They have livestock.
00:21:56.840 They produce beef.
00:21:58.160 And what's interesting
00:21:59.420 to know
00:22:00.000 is that
00:22:00.780 the Dutch minister
00:22:01.760 who has pushed
00:22:02.640 this nitrogen law
00:22:03.880 has a brother-in-law
00:22:05.680 who is the owner
00:22:06.480 of the Dutch online supermarket
00:22:08.580 called Picnic.
00:22:10.040 Guess who invested
00:22:11.140 $600 million
00:22:12.320 in Picnic last year?
00:22:14.800 Right.
00:22:15.380 Bill Gates,
00:22:16.060 the man who wants you
00:22:16.920 to fake meat.
00:22:18.660 And, you know,
00:22:19.320 that's not just
00:22:20.000 a conspiracy theory.
00:22:21.540 I know, for example,
00:22:22.480 that the head
00:22:23.820 of the Netherlands,
00:22:25.440 am I pronouncing
00:22:26.100 his name right,
00:22:27.020 Rutte?
00:22:27.700 How do you pronounce
00:22:28.720 the name of the leader
00:22:30.120 of the Netherlands?
00:22:31.540 He's a serious member
00:22:33.740 of the World Economic Forum,
00:22:35.800 too.
00:22:36.080 What's his name?
00:22:37.760 Mark Rutte.
00:22:38.680 Yes, Mark Rutte
00:22:39.420 is very, very deeply involved
00:22:41.380 in the World Economic Forum.
00:22:42.840 And, well,
00:22:43.500 it's obvious that this law
00:22:44.800 is a product, again,
00:22:46.080 of these globalist institutions
00:22:47.720 because this needs to happen
00:22:49.340 before 2030.
00:22:50.980 Rings a bell, right?
00:22:51.940 Agenda 2030,
00:22:53.260 the Great Reset,
00:22:54.720 World Economic Forum.
00:22:55.860 It's very clear
00:22:56.420 that this is a made-up crisis,
00:22:58.160 which we've seen before
00:22:59.860 with these organizations.
00:23:01.220 That's the way
00:23:01.920 they handle,
00:23:02.840 that's the way
00:23:03.200 they operate these things.
00:23:04.760 They say,
00:23:05.460 we have a crisis
00:23:06.280 and you are the ones
00:23:08.240 that are going to have
00:23:09.080 to solve this
00:23:09.660 by giving up
00:23:10.340 all of your rights.
00:23:11.320 So that's what's happening here.
00:23:12.960 They're taking away
00:23:13.780 these farmers' land.
00:23:15.000 They're taking away property
00:23:16.400 because they see a future
00:23:17.580 for us
00:23:18.160 in which we're
00:23:19.120 completely dependent
00:23:20.720 on the state.
00:23:21.960 You eat bugs
00:23:22.800 and, well,
00:23:24.340 they own your land.
00:23:25.740 You, you know,
00:23:26.280 you owe nothing
00:23:27.280 and you'll be happy
00:23:28.200 is what they say to you.
00:23:29.420 But these farmers
00:23:30.020 are not happy
00:23:30.820 and I'm so proud
00:23:31.800 that they're fighting this.
00:23:33.220 Yeah, well, you know,
00:23:33.780 it's really reminiscent
00:23:34.800 of the trucker rebellion
00:23:36.540 we had here in Canada.
00:23:38.520 And one of the reporters
00:23:39.200 we've sent over there,
00:23:40.140 Lincoln Jay,
00:23:40.820 was really 23 days in a row
00:23:44.480 he was reporting
00:23:45.160 from our trucker rebellion.
00:23:46.460 So now he's going to report
00:23:47.880 on the farmer rebellion,
00:23:49.860 which is the name
00:23:50.720 of our website,
00:23:51.540 farmerrebellion.com.
00:23:52.880 So it'll be interesting
00:23:53.940 to see him contrasting
00:23:55.420 how Canadians do.
00:23:56.480 Canada and the Netherlands
00:23:57.580 are old friends.
00:23:58.940 A lot of Canadian soldiers
00:24:00.260 fought and actually died
00:24:02.300 in the Netherlands
00:24:03.760 to help liberate that country.
00:24:05.380 There's been a deep tie
00:24:06.360 between the two of us
00:24:07.260 ever since.
00:24:07.720 It's one of the reasons
00:24:08.880 why there's so many tulips
00:24:10.220 planted every year
00:24:11.480 in front of our
00:24:12.280 parliament buildings.
00:24:13.680 It's a reminiscence of the,
00:24:14.840 in fact,
00:24:15.480 the Dutch queen,
00:24:16.660 if I'm not mistaken,
00:24:17.380 was born in Ottawa
00:24:19.740 and the hospital room
00:24:20.660 was declared Dutch soil.
00:24:23.540 Am I getting my history
00:24:24.660 right on that?
00:24:26.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:24:27.060 The Netherlands and Canada
00:24:28.060 are very closely linked
00:24:29.380 because of the reasons
00:24:30.500 you mentioned.
00:24:31.140 And we had a lot of reasons
00:24:32.480 to be very thankful
00:24:33.440 to the Canadians
00:24:34.780 for liberating us
00:24:36.160 in large parts
00:24:36.820 of the Nazi regime.
00:24:38.340 But our ties
00:24:39.680 don't just limit themselves
00:24:40.860 to history.
00:24:41.640 They limit themselves
00:24:42.460 in a very nasty way
00:24:43.880 to the present day.
00:24:45.480 And that is that
00:24:46.120 you guys and us,
00:24:47.840 we basically serve
00:24:48.960 as these pilot countries
00:24:50.460 for the rollout
00:24:51.920 of this 2030 agenda
00:24:53.400 for the World Economic Forum.
00:24:55.460 And the way that Trudeau
00:24:56.820 has handled the crisis there
00:24:59.000 and the way that
00:24:59.600 he took away your rights,
00:25:01.680 the rights of the unvaccinated
00:25:02.860 and the way that the protests
00:25:04.000 have been handled
00:25:04.520 by the truckers
00:25:05.160 are something that
00:25:06.140 we are looking at
00:25:07.260 and saying,
00:25:08.580 OK, we basically have
00:25:09.700 the same type of treatment
00:25:10.660 coming from our government.
00:25:12.360 Mark Rutte and Trudeau
00:25:13.620 are closely,
00:25:16.020 we've seen them before
00:25:17.260 closely in social settings
00:25:19.620 being very friendly
00:25:20.500 to each other.
00:25:21.480 And while they're
00:25:22.080 very similar in the way
00:25:23.700 that they view the world
00:25:24.620 and they have
00:25:25.080 the same globalist policies.
00:25:26.960 And the Dutch farmers
00:25:27.740 have really looked
00:25:28.800 also towards
00:25:29.660 the Canadian truckers.
00:25:30.760 And you can see that
00:25:31.600 in the interviews
00:25:32.800 that they're giving right now.
00:25:33.960 They're saying that.
00:25:34.940 They're saying the way
00:25:35.960 that the truckers
00:25:36.600 have stood up against Trudeau
00:25:38.100 is the way that we want
00:25:39.540 to stand up against Mark Rutte.
00:25:40.940 And they're being supported
00:25:42.300 by Dutch truckers as well,
00:25:44.020 Dutch fishermen.
00:25:45.060 So you guys have set
00:25:46.620 a great precedent there
00:25:48.140 that we were very happy
00:25:49.640 to learn from.
00:25:50.320 And I hope that
00:25:51.080 it has the same effect.
00:25:53.220 Well, that's very interesting.
00:25:54.760 I just want to come back
00:25:55.800 to the farmers
00:25:56.780 and the cattle.
00:25:58.380 I presume livestock
00:25:59.220 is largely cattle.
00:26:00.760 Maybe there's other livestock too,
00:26:02.120 sheep, but I think
00:26:04.080 that really means cows.
00:26:06.760 And I'm trying to think of
00:26:07.820 what we've heard
00:26:09.940 in the environmentalist
00:26:11.220 drumbeat for decades
00:26:12.540 is carbon dioxide.
00:26:14.320 So that means
00:26:15.000 everyone has to drive less,
00:26:17.080 everyone has to fly less,
00:26:18.520 and everyone's going to be punished
00:26:20.120 by the carbon taxes.
00:26:21.720 But it seems like
00:26:23.440 this battle in the Netherlands
00:26:25.220 is focused just on
00:26:26.360 one part of society.
00:26:27.580 Like you say,
00:26:28.760 farmers who are self-deficient
00:26:30.460 and this is sufficient,
00:26:31.940 our property owners
00:26:32.920 believe in freedom.
00:26:34.040 I've never seen
00:26:34.980 the punishment
00:26:36.200 being targeted this way
00:26:38.040 and really targeted
00:26:40.260 at animals too.
00:26:41.960 We're going to get rid
00:26:42.740 of 30% of animals.
00:26:44.200 It just seems very odd.
00:26:46.280 I want to ask you,
00:26:47.880 has the rest of Dutch society
00:26:51.040 shown solidarity
00:26:52.680 with the farmers?
00:26:53.940 Or are they saying,
00:26:54.980 well, I don't care.
00:26:56.140 It's those farmers
00:26:57.220 who are the problem,
00:26:58.860 those farmers
00:26:59.460 who are rebelling.
00:27:00.500 I'm in the city.
00:27:01.580 I'm in Amsterdam.
00:27:02.720 I'm a sophisticated city person.
00:27:05.700 I'm not dirty and grubby
00:27:07.260 like the farmers.
00:27:08.560 They deserve it.
00:27:09.560 Like, it seems like
00:27:10.840 an attempt to demonize
00:27:12.160 and ghettoize
00:27:13.000 and focus the punishment
00:27:14.400 on one group of people
00:27:15.320 and one group of animals,
00:27:16.380 weirdly.
00:27:17.340 Has the rest of Dutch society
00:27:19.260 chosen sides on this one?
00:27:22.860 What we're seeing now
00:27:24.540 is that a majority
00:27:25.600 of the Dutch people
00:27:26.820 seem to support the farmers,
00:27:28.540 which is great news.
00:27:29.840 But obviously,
00:27:30.480 the mainstream media
00:27:31.420 that is run by the establishment,
00:27:33.240 by liberals
00:27:33.860 who live in their ivory tower
00:27:35.680 and who will, you know,
00:27:37.520 have enough money
00:27:38.420 to eat their meat anyway
00:27:39.620 and are happy to see you eat bugs,
00:27:42.180 those people obviously
00:27:43.140 don't support the farmers.
00:27:44.700 So like with everything nowadays,
00:27:46.520 there's a real split down the middle
00:27:48.560 between the side
00:27:49.820 of the pro-establishment people,
00:27:51.680 usually people who are part of it,
00:27:53.260 and then the people
00:27:54.640 who are just like,
00:27:55.780 hey, wait a minute,
00:27:57.300 since when do we think
00:27:58.480 it's all right
00:27:59.080 that the state intervenes
00:28:00.360 in our private life this much?
00:28:01.900 You know,
00:28:02.120 this is quite literally communism.
00:28:05.040 Yeah.
00:28:05.200 So that's something
00:28:05.900 that the Dutch are,
00:28:07.480 you know,
00:28:07.980 I feel like a large part
00:28:09.520 of the Dutch country
00:28:10.560 is starting to wake up
00:28:12.160 to this now.
00:28:12.860 They're like,
00:28:13.260 okay,
00:28:13.460 this maybe goes a little far,
00:28:15.120 but the mainstream media
00:28:16.380 is working over time
00:28:18.480 to make these people look bad.
00:28:20.500 And I don't know
00:28:22.000 if you've seen the images,
00:28:23.200 but the Dutch state
00:28:23.980 has done a lot
00:28:25.940 to crack down
00:28:27.100 on these farmers.
00:28:28.280 They have actually,
00:28:29.260 there's been police brutality.
00:28:30.760 Yeah.
00:28:31.080 Just two days ago,
00:28:32.480 they used their guns
00:28:33.840 on peaceful protesters
00:28:35.520 and actually almost shot
00:28:37.820 a 16-year-old child
00:28:39.400 in the head.
00:28:40.400 Yeah.
00:28:40.800 That's what they're doing now.
00:28:42.420 And those types of things
00:28:43.620 are just stuff
00:28:45.340 that we would never
00:28:46.160 have seen before.
00:28:47.340 You know,
00:28:47.800 Dutch is,
00:28:48.720 the Netherlands
00:28:49.200 is such a peaceful country
00:28:50.680 usually where we're pacifist,
00:28:52.880 you know,
00:28:53.200 nobody has guns.
00:28:54.720 You don't really see
00:28:55.600 police violence
00:28:56.220 all that much.
00:28:56.900 But over the last couple
00:28:57.940 of years
00:28:58.380 with the COVID crisis,
00:28:59.880 the way they've cracked down
00:29:00.920 on those protesters
00:29:02.040 and now the way
00:29:02.700 they're cracking down
00:29:03.400 on the farmers,
00:29:04.340 I think they're starting
00:29:05.180 to show their true colors
00:29:06.340 and the people
00:29:07.120 are noticing it.
00:29:08.300 Wow.
00:29:08.600 You know,
00:29:08.880 and that is another echo
00:29:10.020 of Canada.
00:29:10.880 I mean,
00:29:11.140 the RCMP,
00:29:11.960 the Mounties
00:29:12.720 were always held
00:29:13.760 in such high regard
00:29:14.900 and I think
00:29:16.900 most Canadians
00:29:17.540 respected them
00:29:18.300 and to see
00:29:19.140 the police brutality
00:29:19.980 in Canada
00:29:20.620 during the lockdowns,
00:29:21.640 during the Trucker Rebellion
00:29:23.200 and then to see
00:29:23.740 that echoed
00:29:24.420 in the Netherlands,
00:29:25.640 you're right.
00:29:26.020 When I think of Holland,
00:29:27.260 I think of friendly,
00:29:28.600 peaceful people
00:29:29.260 on bicycles
00:29:30.040 with tulips
00:29:31.140 and I know
00:29:31.780 that's a caricature
00:29:33.260 but I think
00:29:34.060 that is part
00:29:34.560 of the Dutch
00:29:34.960 national character
00:29:36.020 to friendly,
00:29:37.900 peaceful,
00:29:38.480 reasonable
00:29:38.880 and this is
00:29:40.440 very shocking to me.
00:29:41.340 Well,
00:29:41.520 I got to tell you,
00:29:42.360 it's fascinating.
00:29:44.080 We're going to try
00:29:44.680 and give it
00:29:45.180 proper coverage
00:29:45.980 in the English language
00:29:47.160 because there's
00:29:48.680 very little coverage
00:29:49.500 in English
00:29:50.160 and of course
00:29:51.180 most Canadians
00:29:51.720 don't speak Dutch
00:29:52.520 and I fear
00:29:53.620 that what little
00:29:54.620 we hear
00:29:55.240 from the Netherlands
00:29:56.460 will come filtered
00:29:57.540 through our state media,
00:30:00.400 our mainstream media
00:30:02.040 that are just going to echo
00:30:03.040 the anti-farmer sentiment.
00:30:04.760 You know,
00:30:05.020 you make me remember
00:30:05.960 Stalin declared war
00:30:08.280 on farmers
00:30:08.860 in Ukraine
00:30:09.560 about 90 years ago
00:30:11.940 and it was called
00:30:12.800 the Holodomor.
00:30:13.760 It was like
00:30:14.100 a man-made famine.
00:30:15.800 Millions died.
00:30:16.680 The idea
00:30:17.160 of attacking farmers
00:30:18.440 and food
00:30:19.540 and doing it
00:30:20.700 deliberately destroying
00:30:22.020 and reducing
00:30:22.640 food production
00:30:23.460 is so unhuman
00:30:24.940 and dangerous.
00:30:25.980 It's shocking to me.
00:30:27.120 Ava,
00:30:27.240 I don't want to
00:30:27.660 take up more of your time.
00:30:28.460 I know you're so busy.
00:30:29.440 We're grateful
00:30:29.900 to have met you.
00:30:30.900 We hope we can
00:30:31.660 talk to you again.
00:30:32.700 It's just wonderful
00:30:33.400 to hear straight from you
00:30:35.060 what's happening
00:30:35.780 in the Netherlands.
00:30:36.680 We're very grateful to you.
00:30:38.220 Oh,
00:30:38.560 I would love to
00:30:39.200 absolutely talk to you
00:30:40.080 more about it.
00:30:40.680 It's so important
00:30:41.380 that you guys know
00:30:42.320 what's going on
00:30:43.180 because this is not
00:30:43.880 just something
00:30:44.420 that's going to affect us.
00:30:46.360 Like you said,
00:30:47.020 the attack on farmers
00:30:48.400 is a way to get
00:30:49.400 control over people
00:30:50.680 and Canada,
00:30:52.160 well,
00:30:52.520 you guys have seen
00:30:53.560 firsthand
00:30:54.100 what it's like
00:30:55.040 to have a state
00:30:55.880 that wants full control
00:30:56.840 over you.
00:30:57.660 So it's so important
00:30:58.840 that you're covering this
00:30:59.680 and I'm very thankful
00:31:00.540 that you're showing support
00:31:01.940 to our Dutch farmers
00:31:02.860 because they really deserve it.
00:31:04.820 Right on.
00:31:05.140 Well,
00:31:05.280 thank you for those remarks.
00:31:06.720 We'll talk to you again soon
00:31:08.080 and thanks for telling us
00:31:10.780 what's going on
00:31:11.860 in one of our
00:31:12.960 great allied countries.
00:31:14.640 Talk to you later,
00:31:15.180 Ava.
00:31:16.660 There you have it.
00:31:17.460 Ava Vlardengerbrook
00:31:18.660 joining us on Skype.
00:31:20.220 We'll talk to her again.
00:31:20.980 And by the way,
00:31:21.340 if you want to see
00:31:21.880 all of our videos,
00:31:22.820 go to
00:31:23.220 farmerrebellion.com.
00:31:25.140 Stay with us.
00:31:25.640 More ahead.
00:31:26.020 Hey, welcome back.
00:31:38.320 Your letters to me.
00:31:39.140 Al Stewart says,
00:31:40.220 I have a feeling
00:31:41.680 that after Patrick Brown
00:31:42.760 and his campaign team
00:31:43.800 watched this episode,
00:31:45.000 he will announce
00:31:45.960 that he is dropping
00:31:46.740 his lawsuits to focus
00:31:48.020 on getting back to work
00:31:49.600 for Brampton Citizens.
00:31:51.760 Yeah,
00:31:52.080 I don't think so.
00:31:54.740 I don't think
00:31:55.680 he wants to go back
00:31:56.480 to Brampton City Council.
00:31:58.080 They're waiting for him
00:31:58.780 with plans for forensic audits
00:32:00.940 and investigations.
00:32:02.320 And I don't think
00:32:03.900 he wants another loss.
00:32:05.120 He's had a few
00:32:05.840 when he was kicked out
00:32:06.760 of the Ontario PC party.
00:32:08.160 That was deeply embarrassing
00:32:09.300 to him.
00:32:10.220 I think this loss could be,
00:32:12.120 I don't know if his
00:32:12.820 political career
00:32:13.520 would recover,
00:32:14.080 although give the man credit.
00:32:15.280 He is the ever ready
00:32:17.280 or energizer bunny
00:32:18.500 bouncing back.
00:32:20.840 Alan Oliver says,
00:32:22.100 he called Rebel News
00:32:23.400 Islamophobic.
00:32:24.700 He has no defense.
00:32:25.680 So he just throws mud.
00:32:27.240 Yeah,
00:32:27.440 I mean,
00:32:27.780 it's just such a weird insult.
00:32:29.440 There was nothing Islamic
00:32:30.500 or religious in any way
00:32:31.920 about our entire presentation.
00:32:34.940 Rebel News is people
00:32:35.680 of all religious backgrounds.
00:32:37.120 I'm Jewish myself.
00:32:38.500 We have Muslim staff,
00:32:41.220 Christian staff,
00:32:42.720 Sikh people.
00:32:44.040 I mean,
00:32:44.340 I don't make a list.
00:32:46.620 It's not an important factor
00:32:48.160 for how we operate.
00:32:49.840 It's just really weird
00:32:51.040 that he reached for that
00:32:52.120 given that there was
00:32:53.200 no racial or religious element
00:32:55.060 to the story whatsoever.
00:32:56.120 I think it was sort of lame.
00:32:57.100 I think people saw through it.
00:32:59.580 Church says,
00:33:01.160 David catching that P.O.S. Brown
00:33:03.660 in the arena
00:33:04.360 will go down.
00:33:05.160 It's one of the best pieces
00:33:05.860 of journalism
00:33:06.340 of all time.
00:33:07.220 I agree.
00:33:08.100 And it was so great
00:33:08.900 that David was wearing
00:33:09.800 a jersey himself.
00:33:11.760 and just the look
00:33:13.900 on Patrick Rounds' face,
00:33:15.680 just the freeze,
00:33:16.660 the realization,
00:33:18.560 who is this?
00:33:20.360 It's David Menzies.
00:33:22.340 Am I on camera?
00:33:24.540 Yes, I'm on camera.
00:33:26.020 I'm stunned.
00:33:27.700 What's my excuse?
00:33:29.660 What am I going to say?
00:33:31.660 Oh, yeah.
00:33:32.700 I'm inspecting the arena
00:33:34.920 because what mayor
00:33:36.220 doesn't inspect?
00:33:37.360 I'm here to inspect the arena.
00:33:39.620 That's what mayors do.
00:33:41.900 Oh, my God.
00:33:42.700 With my hockey bag
00:33:44.180 and my friends
00:33:45.300 who are all warming up
00:33:46.260 for a game.
00:33:47.580 Oh, my.
00:33:48.620 You know what?
00:33:49.380 It was a perfect video.
00:33:50.920 It was a perfect story.
00:33:51.960 But part of me thinks,
00:33:53.160 I wonder what would have happened
00:33:54.240 if David, our reporter,
00:33:55.900 would have arrived,
00:33:56.860 let's say, 20 minutes later
00:33:58.280 when Patrick Brown
00:33:59.500 would have put on
00:34:00.260 his hockey gear
00:34:01.120 and got on the rink.
00:34:02.680 Would he then have said,
00:34:03.540 well, I'm inspecting the ice?
00:34:05.860 I don't know.
00:34:06.660 I think he's too shifty
00:34:08.140 to hold any public office
00:34:09.940 or fiduciary trust.
00:34:11.000 I'm glad that he is not
00:34:12.580 going to be the prime minister.
00:34:13.440 I say again,
00:34:13.900 I would have rather him
00:34:14.620 be dispatched by voters,
00:34:16.500 but I'm glad in any ways
00:34:17.780 that he stopped.
00:34:19.700 That's the show for today.
00:34:21.400 Until tomorrow,
00:34:22.220 on behalf of all of us
00:34:23.240 here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:34:24.420 to you at home,
00:34:24.940 good night.
00:34:26.200 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:34:27.160 David Menzies for Rebel News
00:34:28.820 here at Parliament Hill
00:34:30.440 in Ottawa.
00:34:31.320 And folks,
00:34:32.380 you know the narrative
00:34:33.100 when the Freedom Convoy
00:34:34.600 rolled into the city of Ottawa
00:34:36.280 way back in late January.
00:34:38.060 Well,
00:34:38.300 the vilification
00:34:39.020 and the demonization
00:34:40.480 by the media,
00:34:42.480 by the government,
00:34:43.660 by various law enforcement
00:34:45.200 even began.
00:34:47.200 Evidently,
00:34:48.160 the people of Ottawa
00:34:49.480 were being held siege
00:34:51.140 in their own city.
00:34:52.140 They couldn't get around.
00:34:53.440 It was a dangerous place.
00:34:55.120 That's not true, really.
00:34:56.100 Crime went down
00:34:57.020 during the three weeks
00:34:58.020 of the trucker convoy.
00:34:59.480 Well,
00:34:59.680 I am with Erin Mathers.
00:35:01.580 She is a resident
00:35:03.340 of the city of Ottawa.
00:35:04.920 And she has a bit
00:35:06.300 of a different story
00:35:07.440 to tell you.
00:35:08.600 Maybe not the kind of story
00:35:10.480 you're getting
00:35:11.020 from the mainstream media.
00:35:13.540 So, Erin,
00:35:14.380 we go back to late January.
00:35:16.340 You see all these
00:35:17.440 incredible trucks,
00:35:18.880 these 18-wheelers arrive.
00:35:20.240 And what was your
00:35:22.480 first reaction?
00:35:24.200 And then when you did
00:35:25.000 a little research,
00:35:25.900 what did you discover?
00:35:27.540 Well,
00:35:28.000 first,
00:35:28.580 it was confusion.
00:35:31.820 I mean,
00:35:32.440 we knew they were coming,
00:35:34.220 right?
00:35:34.540 It was in the news
00:35:35.500 for a while
00:35:36.160 that they were on the way.
00:35:37.260 I think it took almost
00:35:38.040 a week for them
00:35:38.600 to get here.
00:35:39.940 And at first,
00:35:40.620 it was really disruptive
00:35:41.460 and I was upset
00:35:42.500 because I was,
00:35:43.880 it's inconvenience
00:35:44.800 is one thing,
00:35:45.640 but it was,
00:35:46.260 it's more than that.
00:35:47.020 It was really disruptive,
00:35:48.560 right?
00:35:49.480 It's quite loud.
00:35:50.680 There's people
00:35:51.200 working from home.
00:35:51.960 There's new babies.
00:35:52.940 There's elderly people.
00:35:56.320 So,
00:35:57.120 you know.
00:35:57.760 So your issue
00:35:58.080 was with the noise
00:35:58.900 because there was
00:35:59.440 a lot of horn honking
00:36:00.520 during the,
00:36:01.100 yeah.
00:36:01.220 And also,
00:36:02.240 it's a really frenetic energy.
00:36:04.040 You don't really know
00:36:04.720 what's going on.
00:36:05.700 You know,
00:36:06.280 all I knew was that
00:36:07.360 it was
00:36:08.300 the truckers union
00:36:10.300 and that they were
00:36:11.660 protesting the mandates
00:36:12.760 for the rest of the
00:36:14.480 employees that hadn't
00:36:15.580 been vaccinated,
00:36:16.640 right?
00:36:16.980 I'm not sure
00:36:17.880 if it was any kind
00:36:18.620 of union
00:36:19.040 or association
00:36:19.860 rather than
00:36:20.740 individual truckers
00:36:21.920 from across Canada.
00:36:22.740 Right.
00:36:23.100 So at first,
00:36:23.780 I thought it was
00:36:24.340 the union,
00:36:25.220 right?
00:36:26.400 But then,
00:36:27.560 so I was actually
00:36:28.540 pretty upset with it,
00:36:29.640 right?
00:36:30.360 And we're going,
00:36:30.860 oh,
00:36:30.960 why do you have this?
00:36:31.900 So why do people
00:36:32.520 have to do this?
00:36:33.460 But I think that reaction
00:36:35.020 mostly was,
00:36:36.100 firstly,
00:36:36.380 it was natural
00:36:36.940 to do that,
00:36:37.860 right?
00:36:38.240 We're getting,
00:36:39.240 again,
00:36:39.900 we're getting disrupted,
00:36:40.620 but nerves are already
00:36:42.740 pretty raw from being
00:36:45.400 locked down for two
00:36:46.400 bloody years.
00:36:47.160 Yes.
00:36:47.600 Right?
00:36:47.860 So that,
00:36:48.380 I had to consider that
00:36:49.440 for a while.
00:36:50.200 But at first,
00:36:50.720 I was not for it.
00:36:51.460 I was like,
00:36:51.640 oh,
00:36:51.780 these guys,
00:36:52.700 why do they come here
00:36:53.600 and what do they do?
00:36:54.540 But,
00:36:55.140 and then I've had to
00:36:57.140 look into my curiosity
00:36:58.200 and go,
00:36:59.100 well,
00:36:59.340 wait a minute,
00:36:59.920 like what's actually
00:37:00.620 going on here?
00:37:01.680 Once you start hearing
00:37:02.720 the mainstream media go,
00:37:05.120 well,
00:37:05.640 you know what Trudeau said,
00:37:06.880 you know,
00:37:07.180 it's the vilification
00:37:08.060 with the other,
00:37:09.680 oh,
00:37:09.920 these people,
00:37:10.880 you know,
00:37:11.140 and now you're alienating
00:37:12.040 half the population
00:37:12.940 of the country.
00:37:14.120 So this is what started
00:37:15.400 to shift it for me.
00:37:16.860 The small fringe minority
00:37:20.280 of people who are on
00:37:23.200 their way to Ottawa
00:37:24.000 or who are holding
00:37:26.060 unacceptable views
00:37:28.280 that they're expressing
00:37:29.700 do not represent
00:37:32.880 the views of Canadians
00:37:34.920 who have been there
00:37:36.300 for each other.
00:37:38.060 If the narrative
00:37:38.800 from top down
00:37:39.920 is going,
00:37:40.740 oh,
00:37:40.900 well,
00:37:41.060 these people
00:37:42.080 are the bad people,
00:37:43.260 then this is a problem.
00:37:45.020 So clearly,
00:37:46.400 what was being reported
00:37:48.040 was not reality.
00:37:49.080 Why was this falsehood
00:37:51.080 being reported
00:37:52.140 in the first place,
00:37:53.040 Erin?
00:37:54.420 Well,
00:37:54.940 that's a pretty big question
00:37:56.480 and I'm not,
00:37:57.920 I mean,
00:37:58.340 I'm not qualified
00:37:59.040 to answer such a thing.
00:38:00.700 The closest thing,
00:38:02.280 that was an unexpected question,
00:38:03.620 the closest thing
00:38:04.300 that I could surmise
00:38:05.320 in my own viewpoint
00:38:06.420 would be they're just
00:38:08.740 going by the leadership.
00:38:11.000 Like,
00:38:11.160 most people are not leaders.
00:38:12.600 Most people need leadership.
00:38:14.260 So that's why it's so important
00:38:15.200 that we have good leadership
00:38:16.400 who isn't going
00:38:17.100 to dehumanise people
00:38:18.260 so easily.
00:38:19.220 We already do that.
00:38:20.320 It's bad habits
00:38:21.280 to say,
00:38:22.060 well,
00:38:22.140 these people are good,
00:38:22.920 these people are bad,
00:38:23.780 or they're just this,
00:38:24.820 or they're just,
00:38:26.160 you throw a label on it,
00:38:27.840 right?
00:38:28.100 I know you're wondering
00:38:30.260 about what you saw
00:38:31.560 in our capital city
00:38:32.580 this weekend.
00:38:35.180 As my friend Erwin Kotler
00:38:36.940 said on Saturday,
00:38:39.160 freedom of expression,
00:38:40.820 assembly,
00:38:41.540 and association
00:38:42.280 are cornerstones
00:38:43.760 of democracy,
00:38:45.540 but Nazi symbolism,
00:38:47.780 racist imagery,
00:38:49.140 and desecration
00:38:50.040 of war memorials
00:38:51.560 are not.
00:38:53.180 It is an insult
00:38:54.160 to memory
00:38:55.360 and truth.
00:38:56.560 You mentioned off-camera
00:38:58.380 when you did research,
00:38:59.900 you found the opposite
00:39:00.760 was true.
00:39:01.220 They were victims.
00:39:02.140 These were people
00:39:03.120 that were losing their jobs,
00:39:04.500 their livelihoods,
00:39:05.680 their homes
00:39:06.860 because of all these
00:39:07.760 COVID mandates.
00:39:09.380 And maybe,
00:39:10.440 you know,
00:39:11.140 when people have their backs
00:39:12.340 against the wall,
00:39:13.200 they do extreme things
00:39:14.860 like having a convoy
00:39:16.260 here on Wellington Street.
00:39:17.860 Right.
00:39:18.540 So,
00:39:19.060 you know,
00:39:19.920 the nonviolent resistant thing
00:39:21.560 is something that we saw,
00:39:22.720 for example,
00:39:23.120 in the Chinese occupation
00:39:24.140 of Tibet.
00:39:24.740 It took quite some years
00:39:26.120 for them to start
00:39:27.020 resisting violently,
00:39:28.460 like 10 dozens of years
00:39:30.240 before they started.
00:39:31.580 So our tolerance,
00:39:32.780 our pain thresholds
00:39:33.860 are a little bit lower
00:39:34.740 in these parts of the world
00:39:36.120 and in these times
00:39:37.100 without that kind of training
00:39:38.460 or cultural context.
00:39:41.160 Right?
00:39:41.700 We saw here
00:39:42.740 during the Dominion Day weekend
00:39:44.840 a complete clampdown
00:39:46.820 of anyone that had a table
00:39:49.780 or a speaker.
00:39:51.660 Officers and bylaw
00:39:53.160 were on them.
00:39:53.960 And it doesn't feel
00:39:56.320 all that free or festive
00:39:57.940 when we should be celebrating
00:39:59.580 the birthday of this nation.
00:40:01.340 Is this what we're seeing
00:40:02.640 an overreaction
00:40:03.700 based on an unrealistic fear
00:40:06.380 that another convoy
00:40:07.560 will happen again here?
00:40:08.840 I think so.
00:40:09.740 I think it's definitely excessive,
00:40:11.860 particularly with the checkpoints.
00:40:13.140 And it's post-festival day today.
00:40:15.100 It's the second.
00:40:15.700 Yeah.
00:40:16.540 So,
00:40:17.040 I mean,
00:40:17.720 someone like myself
00:40:18.640 who doesn't fall into a camp
00:40:20.400 and, you know,
00:40:21.020 I'm not identified with my opinions.
00:40:22.740 I'm willing to shift them
00:40:23.920 and research
00:40:24.900 and have nuanced
00:40:25.920 because more than one truth
00:40:27.080 can be available to you
00:40:29.420 at the same time.
00:40:30.280 There's simultaneous things
00:40:31.400 and paradoxes, you know.
00:40:33.160 It's not just this or that.
00:40:35.140 So,
00:40:36.080 me wanting to go in
00:40:37.360 and just hang out
00:40:38.100 with families
00:40:39.100 and see the music
00:40:40.520 and sit on the grass
00:40:41.560 and chill
00:40:41.900 and talk to people,
00:40:42.980 I'm hesitant to go in,
00:40:44.760 you know.
00:40:45.260 It's,
00:40:45.720 I don't have anything to hide,
00:40:47.160 but I don't want to be complicit
00:40:48.400 in this airport security style stuff.
00:40:50.520 Like,
00:40:50.920 I've lived in the Middle East before.
00:40:52.480 This is not something
00:40:53.360 I've seen in Canada.
00:40:54.980 Like,
00:40:55.400 this is excessive,
00:40:56.660 you know.
00:40:57.020 This is,
00:40:57.600 this is not good,
00:40:59.500 you know.
00:40:59.780 But what,
00:41:00.200 what can we actually do
00:41:01.220 in the street here?
00:41:02.700 It's hard to have
00:41:03.440 reasonable conversations,
00:41:04.820 you know.