Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LIVE! Urgent Tommy Robinson UPDATE plus your questions & comments

00:00:00.000 It's March 8th, I'm Ezra Levant, and you're watching Battleground.

00:00:10.860 Hi everybody, and welcome to my weekly live chat super chat.

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00:00:32.960 I think today's news will focus on one subject only.

00:00:36.900 It's our old friend Tommy Robinson.

00:00:39.160 As you know, 2018 was a momentous year for Tommy.

00:00:43.900 He started off the year as a rebel employee.

00:00:47.260 We had hired him a year earlier, and he did amazing journalism for us.

00:00:51.600 Citizen journalism, very gritty.

00:00:53.120 But he left us, amicably enough, to go independent.

00:00:59.360 I think it was February or March of 2018.

00:01:02.500 And my stress level fell tremendously when I was no longer his boss.

00:01:06.720 Tommy's not built for a boss.

00:01:08.520 It's like putting lightning in a bottle.

00:01:10.320 It just doesn't, it's not lightning anymore.

00:01:11.880 So I got to enjoy Tommy's journalism for a couple months without having to fret about the legal or insurance or corporate details.

00:01:20.320 What a pleasure.

00:01:22.380 Until that awful day in May, when Tommy was live streaming from outside a courthouse in Leeds,

00:01:28.960 where a massive rape gang was on trial, the Huddersfield rape gang.

00:01:32.920 And you have to understand, these British rape gangs, they don't, like, wade in an alley and pounce on someone and rape her and then run away.

00:01:39.840 They target young girls.

00:01:42.180 They exploit them.

00:01:43.320 They trick them and trap them.

00:01:44.840 And, like, they say, well, I'll give you a candy, or I'll give you cigarettes, or I'll give you a drink, or I'll let you ride my Mercedes,

00:01:51.120 or would you like a grown-up boyfriend?

00:01:52.740 And these are girls as young as 11, as young as 11.

00:01:57.360 And they say, well, I gave you a cigarette.

00:02:01.660 Will you send me a topless selfie, for example?

00:02:05.640 And then they have that topless selfie and say, ah, well, now you have to do this and this and this, or I'll show that topless selfie to your mom.

00:02:12.920 You see, they trap these girls, and they get them hooked on drugs.

00:02:17.440 So when I say a rape gang, I'm not saying they rape once.

00:02:20.480 I'm saying they trap these girls, almost universally indigenous white British girls, and they rape them again and again and again.

00:02:28.300 And these girls are trapped.

00:02:30.620 In one case, I read about the rape gang threatened a girl if she stopped coming to their rape parties.

00:02:37.480 These are all minor girls.

00:02:39.680 They would burn down her parents' home.

00:02:41.580 These women, these young girls, were so trapped, as young as 11, one of them burnt down her own house

00:02:47.580 so that the family would move away.

00:02:50.720 Another one literally jumped off her patio to crack her head on the sidewalk just to get herself in the hospital

00:02:57.600 to avoid the nightly rapes by these rape gangs.

00:03:01.000 You see, these were going on countlessly, endlessly.

00:03:05.340 Every social worker, every doctor, every nurse, every politician, every journalist knew about them.

00:03:11.440 But because they were predominantly Pakistani Muslim rape gangs, and the victims were indigenous white British girls,

00:03:19.320 well, we can't talk about that because we have to focus on cohesion in the communities.

00:03:23.560 And that might stir up Islamophobia if we actually talked about them.

00:03:27.060 So, for example, in the case of Rotherham, UK, 1,400 girls were raped.

00:03:33.580 And I say again, not just raped once, raped hundreds of times by dozens of men.

00:03:38.900 It was one of these rape gangs that was on trial in Leeds last year, and Tommy was outside the court.

00:03:45.820 He was the only reporter there.

00:03:47.760 And he was talking outside the court about rape gangs in general.

00:03:52.600 And he read off a list of the accused men, all of whom were convicted, by the way.

00:03:58.520 He read it from the BBC's website.

00:04:00.420 The BBC is the state broadcaster of the United Kingdom.

00:04:02.340 So he was not saying anything that was confidential.

00:04:05.160 In fact, he was quoting from the state broadcaster itself.

00:04:08.880 And for that offence, I don't even know how that's an offence.

00:04:14.240 He was swept up by a gang of police.

00:04:16.360 I think there's seven.

00:04:17.080 Here, watch the video, as he was, in fact, live streaming himself.

00:04:19.900 Take a look.

00:04:20.240 I've been arrested for breach of the peace.

00:04:24.620 You've all watched this.

00:04:25.520 You've all watched this.

00:04:26.720 You've all watched this.

00:04:27.880 You've all watched this.

00:04:28.940 Can you get me a solicitor?

00:04:29.980 Can you get me a solicitor?

00:04:30.940 Can you just turn off your life feet, please?

00:04:32.140 Can you get me a solicitor?

00:04:33.260 Just turn off your life feet, please.

00:04:34.280 Yeah?

00:04:35.300 Do you understand what I've just done here?

00:04:36.460 So, can you explain it again?

00:04:37.800 The press on suspicion for the breach of the peace.

00:04:40.080 What does that mean?

00:04:40.740 What does that mean?

00:04:41.400 What does that mean?

00:04:42.740 What does that mean?

00:04:45.080 What does that mean?

00:04:45.760 The breach in this country.

00:04:46.760 What does that mean?

00:04:47.200 I've been told that the people who do it in the Facebook.

00:04:49.520 What I did it.

00:04:50.660 Yeah?

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00:04:55.920 That's the information I've got.

00:04:56.920 That's the only information we've got.

00:04:57.920 I'm inciting people.

00:04:58.920 I'm inciting people.

00:04:59.920 How have I inciting people?

00:05:01.920 This is free speech.

00:05:02.920 This is where we're at.

00:05:03.920 You're not even allowed to.

00:05:04.920 Look at this.

00:05:05.920 Look how many people.

00:05:06.920 No matter what you're trying to hide.

00:05:07.920 Do you know when you do this?

00:05:08.920 Do you know when you do this?

00:05:09.920 No.

00:05:10.920 No.

00:05:11.920 No.

00:05:12.920 No.

00:05:13.920 More people.

00:05:14.920 No.

00:05:15.920 Just let them do this.

00:05:16.920 More people are going to watch this now than ever.

00:05:18.920 This is ridiculous, lads.

00:05:19.920 Do you feel right when you're doing it?

00:05:21.920 I haven't said a word.

00:05:22.920 He doesn't.

00:05:23.920 In fact, someone laid their hand and assaulted me outside court.

00:05:25.920 Other people have shot me and threatened me about my mother.

00:05:28.920 And here I am being arrested for saying nothing.

00:05:30.920 I'm threatened to behead me.

00:05:31.920 I've done nothing.

00:05:32.920 What are they arresting you for, Tommy?

00:05:33.920 Breach of the peace.

00:05:34.920 Apparently I'm inciting on my video.

00:05:36.920 Can you please, George, get me a solicitor.

00:05:39.920 Yeah.

00:05:40.920 Because I'm there.

00:05:41.920 I'm going to suspend his sentences.

00:05:44.920 But it was a false arrest.

00:05:46.920 You heard them say he was arrested for breach of the peace.

00:05:49.920 He, in fact, was not breaching the peace.

00:05:51.920 I watched part of that live stream by coincidence.

00:05:53.920 I was watching it on Facebook, as were quite a few others.

00:05:56.920 He was standing by himself talking into his cell phone for 75 minutes.

00:06:03.920 He was talking in a regular voice.

00:06:06.920 There was no one he was inciting or breaching.

00:06:08.920 He was a man standing on the sidewalk talking into his phone.

00:06:13.920 There was no peace that was breached.

00:06:15.920 There was no incitement.

00:06:16.920 He was talking politics.

00:06:17.920 He was rambling, frankly, a little bit to kill 75 minutes of time.

00:06:21.920 Even someone as loquacious as Tommy was engaging in some filler.

00:06:26.920 He had some interesting conversations with people on the street.

00:06:28.920 All of it was polite.

00:06:29.920 He certainly didn't breach the peace.

00:06:31.920 And, in fact, as we later learned, he was not charged with breach of peace or incitement.

00:06:38.920 He was held in contempt of court.

00:06:42.920 And, as I only learned later, when I finally saw Tommy later in the summer.

00:06:48.920 See, that was the last time he was seen in public in May.

00:06:51.920 As you know, as we all know now, he was taken to the police department.

00:06:58.920 And then he was brought before the judge of that rape gang trial.

00:07:02.920 Who summarily sentenced Tommy to 13 months in prison.

00:07:05.920 And I say summarily because the hearing was less than 10 minutes long.

00:07:10.920 Tommy himself did not utter a single word.

00:07:13.920 I mentioned it was 10 minutes long because you will obviously intuit that it was therefore impossible for the judge to watch Tommy's 75-minute broadcast to comment on it.

00:07:24.920 He didn't even inspect it.

00:07:26.920 And I've become a bit of an amateur expert in British contempt of court law.

00:07:31.920 I was familiar with it somewhat because Tommy was charged the year previous when he was working with.

00:07:37.920 He was charged in Canterbury.

00:07:39.920 So we got Tommy out of the soup back then and we studied the law with Tommy.

00:07:43.920 We actually had a whole session at a prominent law firm in London called Kingsley Napoli.

00:07:49.920 Tommy and his team, we all went to London and we sat in Kingsley Napoli's boardroom.

00:07:55.920 And it was like the comparison I have is like a race car when the pit crew, when it comes into the pit and the pit crew comes in.

00:08:04.920 They change the tires to fill up the gas, they wipe the windshield.

00:08:08.920 That's what it was like.

00:08:09.920 We had this boardroom and Tommy was the center of it.

00:08:12.920 And I was there and we had, there was probably about six of us there.

00:08:15.920 And we brought in lawyer after lawyer to give Tommy a briefing.

00:08:18.920 Okay, here's contempt of court law.

00:08:20.920 Here's defamation law.

00:08:21.920 Here's privacy law.

00:08:22.920 Here's various aspects of media law.

00:08:24.920 It was a hell of a session.

00:08:26.920 And I felt so good about it because Tommy was so completely engaged because this was not some abstract, abstract law school lecture.

00:08:35.920 Every single thing we were talking about was something that Tommy had either contemplated or had happened to him or was thinking about or it was, he was engaged.

00:08:45.920 He was interacting with the lawyers.

00:08:47.920 There's, it was actually probably the most intense of 90 minutes.

00:08:51.920 I think it was 90 minutes.

00:08:52.920 It was, it was an amazing day.

00:08:55.920 And even, so that was what we did after the Canterbury contempt arrest.

00:09:00.920 So, like I say, February, March, Tommy left us, but he still had those lessons that he learned from that law firm, Kingsley Napoli.

00:09:11.920 And then when he was arrested in May, I was watching him.

00:09:14.920 I was thinking, well, he's being careful.

00:09:15.920 He's not standing on the courtroom property.

00:09:18.920 That's one rule.

00:09:19.920 He kept saying alleged suspect, alleged rapists or suspected rapists or accused rapists.

00:09:28.920 He never spoke of them as if they had been convicted already.

00:09:32.920 He did not identify or show any jurors, for example.

00:09:36.920 So I was watching this here in Toronto on my phone while it was happening in Leeds.

00:09:43.920 And I was saying, oh, Tommy, remember, remember our training is what I was thinking.

00:09:47.920 I said, oh my God, you're, you're going close to the wire, but he never crossed it.

00:09:52.920 So when he was arrested and you heard what they said, incitement, but he was not charged with it.

00:09:56.920 He was, he was held in contempt, but it wasn't even a hearing.

00:09:59.920 I know a little bit of a lot of contempt because of the experiences I've just described.

00:10:03.920 And one of the requirements of contempt is that the contemner, that's the fancy word of saying someone held in contempt,

00:10:10.920 has to be given a written list of what he said or did that was wrong.

00:10:17.920 You can't just say, oh, you're in contempt.

00:10:20.920 Well, what?

00:10:21.920 What are the particulars?

00:10:22.920 Can you particularize them?

00:10:24.920 Now, when he got in trouble in Canterbury, he got the particulars and there was sort of a couple of weeks where the judge cooled off

00:10:30.920 and we sent in some top lawyers, that did not happen in Leeds.

00:10:34.920 The judge never gave him his bill of, you know, here's what you did wrong.

00:10:39.920 The judge was hot under the collar, wanted to deal with it before lunch and did indeed.

00:10:45.920 Tommy's own lawyer was not allowed to be president.

00:10:49.920 Tommy was given some public defender who, A, did not know Tommy or his background.

00:10:54.920 B, was not an expert in contempt of court law.

00:10:58.920 I can assure you it is a very rare and obscure species of law.

00:11:03.920 And I'm not even criticizing the public defender who did, I'm sure, the best that he could, but not good enough, obviously.

00:11:09.920 How can a public defender who's used to, you know, an assault on the street or a drunken disorderly charge,

00:11:17.920 how can someone like that handle the technical matter of contempt of court?

00:11:21.920 It was a stitch up.

00:11:24.920 And Tommy was sent to prison for 13 months?

00:11:28.920 13 months.

00:11:29.920 I've seen rapists sentenced to less time than that.

00:11:33.920 In fact, of the rapists on trial in Huddersfield, I'd have to check, but I'm quite sure some of the actual serial game rapists were out of prison,

00:11:43.920 will be out of prison in less time than 13 months.

00:11:47.920 Now, this is a recap.

00:11:48.920 You know all this because we've talked about it so much.

00:11:51.920 And so, you saw Tommy turn to the camera in that arrest video and say,

00:11:57.920 get me a solicitor.

00:12:00.920 I saw that here in Toronto.

00:12:02.920 And had Tommy been working for me still,

00:12:05.920 well, I wouldn't have needed him to say that.

00:12:07.920 I would have had a solicitor on the phone immediately.

00:12:09.920 And as Tommy's employer, I would have had the authority to make decisions.

00:12:13.920 Because, of course, he would have been arrested in the course of his employment.

00:12:18.920 When Tommy was arrested the year earlier in Canterbury in a SWAT team-style 4.30 a.m. raid on his house for shock and awe to upset the family,

00:12:28.920 I actually was up.

00:12:30.920 So, just to remind you, can we dig up that video of Tommy being arrested at 4.30 a.m.?

00:12:35.920 So, 4.30 a.m. in Luton is 11.30 p.m. here in Toronto.

00:12:41.920 And I was still up at 11.30.

00:12:44.920 I mean, I don't know what time I go to bed.

00:12:46.920 Sometimes I go to bed earlier than that.

00:12:48.920 So, I was up.

00:12:49.920 And the police raided his house at 4.30 in the morning.

00:12:52.920 And I heard about it at 11.30 p.m.

00:12:55.920 So, I just stayed up all night.

00:12:57.920 And within two hours, our lawyers in the U.K. were up.

00:13:01.920 They were up at 6.30.

00:13:03.920 And they started work at 6.30 in the morning.

00:13:05.920 Those are good lawyers.

00:13:07.920 And they called.

00:13:08.920 The first thing we had to do was find out where Tommy was.

00:13:10.920 Let me know when we got that 4.30 a.m. video.

00:13:14.920 So, I didn't need to wait.

00:13:18.920 I didn't need to check with Tommy.

00:13:20.920 I didn't need to check with Tommy's wife.

00:13:22.920 I didn't need to wait for instructions.

00:13:24.920 I am the instructor.

00:13:26.920 Here, let me show you that raid at 4.30 a.m.

00:13:29.920 This is in Canterbury the year previous.

00:13:31.920 Take a look at this.

00:13:32.920 D, the video off.

00:13:33.920 4 o'clock in the morning, my house was dawn raided.

00:13:37.920 I was dragged out of my house in front of my wife and children.

00:13:40.920 I was taken automatically to this court on a charge of contempt of court.

00:13:45.920 You saw enough of the handheld camera.

00:13:48.920 He had us good enough.

00:13:49.920 Thanks, Justin.

00:13:50.920 So, I hear about this.

00:13:52.920 I see this.

00:13:53.920 So, I get our lawyers on the phone and the email.

00:13:56.920 And they're working.

00:13:57.920 So, it's now 6.30 a.m. in London, which is 1.30 a.m. in Toronto.

00:14:05.920 But we're working.

00:14:07.920 We're setting up a website.

00:14:10.920 Save Tommy.

00:14:12.920 I'm instructing the lawyers.

00:14:14.920 The first thing the lawyers do, we got three lawyers working on it.

00:14:16.920 You know what the first thing we do?

00:14:18.920 Where's Tommy?

00:14:20.920 Where did he go?

00:14:21.920 Physically.

00:14:22.920 Where is the lad?

00:14:23.920 So, they started calling every jail and every cop shop in the UK.

00:14:27.920 Is that something?

00:14:28.920 We had to physically find him.

00:14:30.920 Where is he?

00:14:31.920 Who took him where?

00:14:32.920 What's his status?

00:14:33.920 We finally tracked him down.

00:14:35.920 He had been taken up to Canterbury.

00:14:38.920 And we marshaled our lawyers.

00:14:40.920 I think we had three.

00:14:42.920 Including an expert on contempt of court.

00:14:45.920 And we sent him up there to Canterbury.

00:14:48.920 So, we worked nonstop.

00:14:51.920 And we got him back home that night at 5.30.

00:14:57.920 So, from arrest to freedom, we worked it.

00:15:02.920 13 hours we got him out.

00:15:04.920 We got him home that night.

00:15:07.920 His family was pleased.

00:15:10.920 And then our lawyers had two weeks to carefully prepare a defense to contempt of court.

00:15:18.920 And, just as important, the angry judge in Canterbury, who had sent the police to Tommy's house at 4 a.m.

00:15:29.920 Frankly, that was probably a decision made by the local cops.

00:15:33.920 She had time to cool off a bit.

00:15:35.920 So, by the time the substantive hearing came two weeks later in Canterbury, she let Tommy out for the suspended sentence.

00:15:42.920 So, that was, and I remember talking to Tommy when he got out.

00:15:45.920 He says, oi, ez.

00:15:46.920 He didn't say, oi, I added the oi.

00:15:48.920 He said, ez.

00:15:49.920 It was on a knife's edge, bro.

00:15:50.920 That's what he said.

00:15:52.920 It's true.

00:15:53.920 But, you know, the knife's edge tipped to Tommy's freedom in favor.

00:15:56.920 And he got out.

00:15:57.920 So, that was Canterbury, 2017.

00:16:00.920 So, now we're in Leeds, 2018.

00:16:04.920 And I see him look at the camera and say, George, get me a solicitor.

00:16:08.920 Well, the thing is, I can't act anymore.

00:16:11.920 Because I'm not the boss.

00:16:14.920 It's not for me.

00:16:15.920 I'm not the client.

00:16:17.920 I got on the phone anyways.

00:16:18.920 I talked to his lawyer, Alison Gurdon.

00:16:20.920 I said, well, we got this whole team at Kingsley Napoli.

00:16:23.920 They're pretty top notch guys.

00:16:25.920 They already know Tommy.

00:16:27.920 They already know the law.

00:16:28.920 They know his history.

00:16:29.920 They know the Canterbury case.

00:16:30.920 They're ready to go.

00:16:31.920 Let's do it.

00:16:32.920 And I'm not going to get into the nitty gritty.

00:16:34.920 But it took us a month.

00:16:35.920 It took us.

00:16:36.920 It took me.

00:16:37.920 It took me a month to get them to decide to appeal.

00:16:43.920 I'm not going to get into the details.

00:16:45.920 But it was a month wasted.

00:16:48.920 Anyways, as you know, the story gets better.

00:16:52.920 We did, in fact, hire excellent legal counsel.

00:16:55.920 John Carson.

00:16:56.920 Put up John Carson's picture.

00:16:57.920 Carson K is the name of the law firm.

00:16:59.920 Carson K-A-Y-E.

00:17:01.920 So it took us a month.

00:17:03.920 Because I couldn't act like that.

00:17:05.920 Because I'm not the boss anymore.

00:17:07.920 I was a busybody, right?

00:17:08.920 I was a meddler.

00:17:09.920 You can't just have any meddler from around the world making decisions.

00:17:12.920 It doesn't work that way.

00:17:13.920 So it took me a month before I could help.

00:17:15.920 Carson K actually presented themselves to Tommy.

00:17:19.920 I did not find them, just to be crystal clear on that.

00:17:22.920 But I had the approval of Tommy's family to crowdfund.

00:17:25.920 Finally.

00:17:26.920 Finally.

00:17:27.920 There he is.

00:17:28.920 John Carson.

00:17:29.920 He's even handsomer in person.

00:17:32.920 You know what?

00:17:33.920 I love John Carson.

00:17:34.920 I'm just joking around.

00:17:36.920 I love him because he helped get Tommy out.

00:17:42.920 And so we crowdfunded Tommy's defense.

00:17:44.920 And by the way.

00:17:45.920 I should tell you.

00:17:46.920 That in the ten weeks Tommy was in prison.

00:17:48.920 I never spoke to him once.

00:17:50.920 He had what?

00:17:51.920 Two phone calls a week.

00:17:52.920 He's not going to waste that on me.

00:17:54.920 He would talk to his lawyer.

00:17:55.920 He would talk to his wife.

00:17:57.920 And he had very few visits.

00:18:00.920 And I'm not going to take up a visit to say, hey Tommy.

00:18:03.920 You know, his visits can be with his lawyer's wife.

00:18:07.920 I was able, however, to send him emails.

00:18:10.920 And you recall this.

00:18:12.920 And Tommy couldn't email back.

00:18:14.920 But he would talk to his wife.

00:18:17.920 And his wife would backchat on the information to me.

00:18:20.920 So I would send an email to Tommy through prisoner.

00:18:23.920 There's a prison email system that was excellent, actually.

00:18:27.920 It would cost like a dollar to send an email.

00:18:30.920 That's no problem.

00:18:31.920 It's the cost of a stamp.

00:18:32.920 And I would be careful because I knew that the prison was reading my emails to him.

00:18:37.920 So I didn't give anything.

00:18:39.920 Like I was careful because I assumed every email was being read by the warden.

00:18:44.920 But Tommy would give instructions back through his wife.

00:18:47.920 So I knew I was on the right track.

00:18:49.920 And I joked later with Tommy.

00:18:50.920 I said, Tommy, that's the best communications you and I have ever had.

00:18:53.920 You actually read all my emails for the first time.

00:18:56.920 I joked.

00:18:57.920 And I didn't have to put up with any of your talk back.

00:19:00.920 It was a bit of a joke.

00:19:01.920 But obviously it was a terrible time.

00:19:04.920 So we crowdfunded him.

00:19:07.920 By we, I mean you.

00:19:08.920 We crowdfunded him.

00:19:10.920 We crowdfunded Tommy's legal defense.

00:19:13.920 We went before the Court of Appeal.

00:19:16.920 And I should tell you, it was taken most seriously by them.

00:19:20.920 They put the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales himself.

00:19:26.920 Throw up a picture of him if you got it.

00:19:29.920 So they didn't just put some junior judge.

00:19:32.920 They literally put the top judge in England and Wales on the case.

00:19:39.920 And with two other judges.

00:19:42.920 And they were most grave as you would want them to be.

00:19:47.920 Now they deliberated too long for my taste.

00:19:49.920 It took them a couple of weeks to think it over.

00:19:53.920 But if my memory serves, it was August 1st that he was freed.

00:19:56.920 Is that right?

00:19:57.920 August 1st?

00:19:59.920 And we were there to cover it.

00:20:03.920 And can we get the footage of Tommy coming out?

00:20:05.920 Either footage of me with him or footage of...

00:20:07.920 I just want to show Tommy when he was out.

00:20:09.920 Again, I had not seen him.

00:20:11.920 There's a judge.

00:20:12.920 That's the Lord Chief Justice.

00:20:13.920 They got the wigs over there.

00:20:15.920 You can find that ruling online.

00:20:21.920 Go to judiciary.gov.

00:20:25.920 And then just type in Stephen Yaxley Lennon.

00:20:27.920 That's Tommy's legal name.

00:20:30.920 You can read it.

00:20:31.920 And can I recommend you do so?

00:20:34.920 There's two versions of the ruling.

00:20:37.920 First is the lengthy one.

00:20:39.920 It's pretty long.

00:20:40.920 And there's some legalese in it.

00:20:42.920 But I didn't know...

00:20:44.920 Yeah, that's it right there.

00:20:47.920 Yeah, you can see it's dated August 1st.

00:20:49.920 I remember correctly.

00:20:50.920 The Right Honorable the Lord Burnett of Malden.

00:20:53.920 Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales.

00:20:55.920 And the Honorable Mr. Justice Turner.

00:20:57.920 And the Honorable Mrs. Justice McGowan.

00:21:00.920 In regards to Stephen Yaxley Lennon.

00:21:03.920 A.K.A. Tommy Robinson.

00:21:04.920 Appellants.

00:21:05.920 Scroll down a little bit.

00:21:07.920 Jeremy Dean, QC.

00:21:09.920 And Terry Ann Rowan.

00:21:11.920 Instructed by Carson K. Solicitors for the applicant.

00:21:13.920 So in the U.K. they break it down.

00:21:16.920 They have barristers and solicitors are different.

00:21:19.920 So John Carson was the solicitors.

00:21:22.920 So there were four lawyers for Tommy there.

00:21:24.920 We crowdfunded.

00:21:25.920 And you can see Lewis Mabley was sort of a quote,

00:21:30.920 an expert for the court.

00:21:31.920 So this was the judgment.

00:21:33.920 They had a full judgment.

00:21:35.920 Scroll down just a little bit more if you got it.

00:21:37.920 If not, don't worry about it.

00:21:38.920 Yeah.

00:21:39.920 So it's quite a lengthy ruling.

00:21:44.920 Written by Lord Burnett himself.

00:21:47.920 And it refers to Canterbury.

00:21:49.920 It is a very detailed case.

00:21:51.920 If you have the appetite, I recommend you read it.

00:21:53.920 And if you think that's too daunting,

00:21:56.920 the court actually published a summary of it,

00:21:59.920 which I haven't seen that in Canada before.

00:22:02.920 I don't know if they do that in the States.

00:22:03.920 It's very handy.

00:22:04.920 So you can find that very easily.

00:22:06.920 Go to Judiciary.UK.

00:22:08.920 Sorry, I might have said .gov.

00:22:09.920 It's .UK.

00:22:11.920 You'll find it in a second.

00:22:14.920 It was a scorching ruling.

00:22:18.920 Not scorching for Tommy.

00:22:21.920 Scorching of the judge in Leeds.

00:22:25.920 Who in a drumhead trial.

00:22:28.920 A five-minute trial.

00:22:30.920 Yeah.

00:22:31.920 There you go.

00:22:32.920 So you just . . .

00:22:34.920 I mean, how long did that take you to find?

00:22:36.920 Like ten seconds.

00:22:37.920 Five seconds.

00:22:38.920 You just type in Judiciary.UK.

00:22:40.920 And then just . . .

00:22:41.920 You actually learn.

00:22:42.920 And you can see they've got the . . .

00:22:44.920 So we click on the summary there.

00:22:45.920 Let's show people how easy it is to read.

00:22:47.920 So this is what the website looks like.

00:22:49.920 And yeah.

00:22:50.920 So what's that?

00:22:51.920 Like six pages, if I recall.

00:22:53.920 It's pretty quick.

00:22:54.920 It's a pretty quick read.

00:22:56.920 If memory serves.

00:22:57.920 So you don't have to read the very lengthy thing.

00:22:59.920 Yeah.

00:23:00.920 What's that?

00:23:01.920 Three pages?

00:23:02.920 Three pages.

00:23:03.920 Anyone can read that.

00:23:04.920 So it's worth reading.

00:23:06.920 And the reason I tell you to read it.

00:23:08.920 Why am I telling you to read it?

00:23:09.920 Why am I assigning you homework?

00:23:12.920 Is because I can guarantee you.

00:23:15.920 You have not heard about the contents of that.

00:23:19.920 Perhaps the most momentous case of 2018.

00:23:22.920 Certainly the most momentous contempt of court case in 70 years.

00:23:27.920 I guarantee you have not heard its contents.

00:23:31.920 Because none of the mainstream media who were there with me.

00:23:34.920 At the Royal Courts of Justice.

00:23:36.920 None of them reported about the substance of that ruling.

00:23:39.920 Can you find my appearance on BBC?

00:23:42.920 Any of them?

00:23:43.920 I did about three BBC hits that next day.

00:23:45.920 I don't know if you're going to have any luck.

00:23:47.920 Some of them were awful.

00:23:48.920 Some of them were awful.

00:23:49.920 Let me know if you find one.

00:23:50.920 So I was there and I was in the court and I saw these jackals of the mainstream media.

00:23:58.920 They're jackals.

00:24:01.920 And they saw what I saw and they heard what I heard.

00:24:04.920 And frankly, they probably understood some of it better than me.

00:24:10.920 I mean, I'm trained as a lawyer.

00:24:11.920 I have a law degree.

00:24:12.920 I don't practice anymore.

00:24:14.920 But these are Brits.

00:24:15.920 So they understand the British system because there's some differences.

00:24:18.920 So frankly, there's professional full-time reporters from the UK who are probably more familiar

00:24:23.920 with British quirks of the law than I am as a Canadian.

00:24:28.920 So they would have at least understood as well as I have.

00:24:31.920 I mean, maybe the fact that I have a law degree would have helped me understand.

00:24:34.920 Okay.

00:24:35.920 But not one of them reported the substance of that ruling.

00:24:39.920 Okay.

00:24:40.920 Hold with the BBC.

00:24:41.920 Let me just finish this thought and then I'll call for the BBC clip.

00:24:46.920 And what's my point?

00:24:47.920 This was, instead of writing about how Lord Burnett there, that guy with the fancy wig,

00:24:55.920 the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, just the most important judge in the UK.

00:24:59.920 Only that.

00:25:00.920 Heading a three-person panel, three-judge panel, unanimous.

00:25:05.920 So this was not a split decision.

00:25:07.920 There was not a dissenting minority opinion here.

00:25:10.920 So you've got Lord Chief Justice Burnett, Chief Justice of the United Kingdom, England and Wales,

00:25:19.920 concurred by two judges, saying not only ought Tommy Robinson to be immediately freed from prison,

00:25:28.920 but then detailing the litany of procedural abuses that were just plain wrong.

00:25:37.920 I'm not going to use the word stitch up.

00:25:39.920 I'm going to say falsely imprisoned.

00:25:42.920 I'm going to say improper, improper arrest, improper prosecution, improper conviction, improper sentencing, improper incarceration.

00:25:51.920 There was nothing about Tommy's case that was proper.

00:25:56.920 Nothing.

00:25:58.920 Did we show the image of him leaving?

00:26:01.920 Did we show that yet?

00:26:02.920 Look how thin he was when he got it.

00:26:04.920 Show that when he got it.

00:26:06.920 I didn't even mention.

00:26:08.920 They put him in a small cage for 23 and a half hours a day.

00:26:12.920 Look how thin he was.

00:26:13.920 Look at that.

00:26:14.920 Look at those sunken eyes.

00:26:16.920 Look at those sunken eyes.

00:26:18.920 Oh, is that the audio?

00:26:19.920 Okay, we'll listen to that in a second.

00:26:24.920 I saw Tommy, like he got out of prison and you're going to laugh at me.

00:26:28.920 You know the first thing he did?

00:26:30.920 He got a haircut.

00:26:32.920 I thought that was funny.

00:26:34.920 It's so important.

00:26:35.920 He got a haircut.

00:26:36.920 I don't know.

00:26:37.920 Yeah, there we go.

00:26:38.920 He got a haircut.

00:26:39.920 Anyway, I saw him.

00:26:41.920 I was shocked.

00:26:42.920 Look at that guy.

00:26:43.920 Look at his face.

00:26:44.920 Look at how thin his face is.

00:26:45.920 He was shell-shocked.

00:26:47.920 Look at that.

00:26:48.920 When I knew Tommy before, he was muscly.

00:26:52.920 Look at that guy.

00:26:54.920 He lost, as they say in the UK, three stone for non-Brits.

00:26:59.920 That means 40 pounds.

00:27:01.920 He lost 40 pounds in 10 weeks.

00:27:04.920 And he's trying to be himself there.

00:27:06.920 He's trying to be sort of normal.

00:27:08.920 I felt like a guy who was shell-shocked.

00:27:11.920 He had PTSD of sorts.

00:27:13.920 And he was so messed up there.

00:27:17.920 He had just come from court, got a haircut, a shower, put on his own clothes.

00:27:21.920 And look at his face.

00:27:22.920 Look at his mouth.

00:27:23.920 Look at his eyes.

00:27:25.920 Look at his eyes.

00:27:26.920 And I was happy to see him.

00:27:27.920 I'm trying to be positive.

00:27:29.920 But I got to tell you, all I could think of was,

00:27:32.920 what the hell did they do to you?

00:27:35.920 What the hell did they do to you?

00:27:38.920 This was the first time I had talked to him, let alone seen him.

00:27:41.920 I hadn't seen him since, well, the march of that year when we let him go at the rebel.

00:27:49.920 And I, you know, chatted with him a little bit by text.

00:27:52.920 That was the first time I actually interacted with Tommy.

00:27:56.920 Really, since we let him go in March or whatever.

00:28:04.920 He would have seen an ISIS or a Taliban or an Al-Qaeda terrorist who had been incarcerated in the UK or in the United States in such conditions.

00:28:15.920 Conditions that he lost 40 pounds weight in 10 weeks.

00:28:19.920 Solitary confinement 23 and a half hours a day.

00:28:22.920 Death threats in prison.

00:28:23.920 He would have received an apology from Theresa May and probably a cash compensation.

00:28:30.920 Instead, and it's only taken me 28 minutes to get to the news of the day.

00:28:37.920 I'll come back to that clip later.

00:28:40.920 Instead, yesterday the Attorney General of the United Kingdom advised Tommy that they will indeed prosecute him a second time for those same offenses up in Leeds.

00:28:54.920 So let me explain what that means.

00:28:57.920 When the Court of Appeal and Lord Burnett freed Tommy from prison on August 1st, they did not dispose of the matter permanently.

00:29:06.920 They said it was so improper, we quash, that's the word they use, we quash the finding of contempt and we send it back to the judge to do properly.

00:29:19.920 Well, why did they do that?

00:29:21.920 So let me not overly praise the Lord Chief Justice.

00:29:24.920 Why did they send it back for a do-over?

00:29:26.920 Man just spent 10 weeks in prison.

00:29:28.920 Technical definition met of torture.

00:29:32.920 23 and a half hours a day in a box.

00:29:37.920 You don't put someone in solitary for more than two weeks.

00:29:41.920 A day in solitary is like a week or a month outside.

00:29:44.920 You go mad.

00:29:45.920 Tommy told me that the one thing that kept him sane was all the emails he was getting.

00:29:50.920 So why would they do it again?

00:29:54.920 What, 10 weeks in solitary wasn't enough punishment?

00:29:57.920 You want to put him through it again?

00:29:58.920 You want to make him incur six figures in legal costs again?

00:30:01.920 Yeah, you're damn straight.

00:30:02.920 So you might recall that we went back to a hearing now at a different court, the old Bailey.

00:30:08.920 And now the top criminal judge in all of London, who has the fancy title, the recorder of London.

00:30:14.920 Very, very senior man.

00:30:16.920 Nicholas Hilliard is his real name.

00:30:19.920 Feel free to grab a picture of Nicholas Hilliard, the recorder of London.

00:30:22.920 Again, great wigs these guys have.

00:30:25.920 Big wigs.

00:30:26.920 He's a big wig, as we say.

00:30:29.920 So, you might recall we returned to the United Kingdom for Tommy's trial at the old Bailey, where they were going to rehear it.

00:30:36.920 But Tommy gave the recorder of London his witness statement.

00:30:41.920 And the judge, the recorder of London, most senior criminal judge now.

00:30:46.920 We were talking earlier about the Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Appeal.

00:30:50.920 Now we're talking about Nicholas Hilliard.

00:30:52.920 Feel free to throw up an image of him.

00:30:55.920 At the old Bailey, which is the most serious criminal court of London.

00:30:59.920 They actually have a dungeon underground there.

00:31:02.920 The old Bailey is where they try.

00:31:05.920 There we go.

00:31:06.920 Look at that.

00:31:07.920 Now that's a big wig.

00:31:09.920 Would you agree with me?

00:31:10.920 That is a big wig.

00:31:13.920 I can't help but look at that and think those look like puppy ears, frankly.

00:31:17.920 But don't think that, because this man is as grave as a heart attack.

00:31:23.920 But Tommy said to this man, the recorder of London, Nicholas Hilliard, QC.

00:31:27.920 Tommy said, my Lord, I got a lot of things I want to say and do.

00:31:32.920 And I got a lot of things I want to testify.

00:31:38.920 And Hilliard, the recorder, said, OK, I'm not going to hear this because there's,

00:31:47.920 I won't get into the technical legal reasons why it was appropriate for the recorder to say,

00:31:52.920 I will give this now back to the attorney general.

00:31:57.920 And if they choose to prosecute, they will.

00:32:00.920 But I will not hear it.

00:32:02.920 Mr. Lennon, as they call Tommy Robinson, you are free to go.

00:32:07.920 You no longer have any bail conditions.

00:32:10.920 You're done here.

00:32:12.920 Now get out of my court.

00:32:13.920 Actually, it was, it didn't end that way.

00:32:15.920 So Tommy was free.

00:32:18.920 But the recorder of London, Nicholas Hilliard, QC, the big wig,

00:32:24.920 gave it back to Theresa May's attorney general.

00:32:27.920 Put up Geoffrey Cox, the attorney general.

00:32:29.920 Can you believe it?

00:32:30.920 I met Geoffrey Cox the day he was being sworn in.

00:32:33.920 You're not going to believe this coincidence.

00:32:36.920 But the day of Tommy's first hearing at the Court of Appeal,

00:32:41.920 in the same day, in the same court, in the same room,

00:32:46.920 the new attorney general of the United Kingdom was being sworn in.

00:32:49.920 I couldn't believe the coincidence.

00:32:51.920 I show up an hour early for Tommy's trial.

00:32:54.920 Who's there?

00:32:55.920 Geoffrey Cox.

00:32:57.920 The attorney, there he is, who was sworn in that hour as attorney general.

00:33:04.920 So I'm in the courtroom early because I want to get a good seat.

00:33:07.920 And who's there but all his family?

00:33:10.920 Because this is a big deal to be sworn in as the attorney general.

00:33:13.920 You know what attorney general means?

00:33:14.920 Look at the words.

00:33:15.920 It means you're basically the big boss lawyer for the government.

00:33:20.920 You're in charge of all the other lawyers.

00:33:23.920 You run the Justice Department.

00:33:25.920 You run the prosecution.

00:33:26.920 You are effectively the boss of the biggest law firm in the United Kingdom, right?

00:33:31.920 I see there's some Super Chats coming in, but will you permit me to go on with my stories?

00:33:36.920 I will read them.

00:33:37.920 And I promise you that.

00:33:39.920 But will you permit me to make some more news or to recount some of these facts, okay?

00:33:46.920 I appreciate the Super Chats.

00:33:48.920 Thank you.

00:33:49.920 And as you know, normally on Fridays, I really read them.

00:33:52.920 But let me say my piece and I'll come back to them, okay?

00:33:55.920 Justin, at 1250, make sure I come back to those Super Chats.

00:33:59.920 So folks, let me go for another 15 minutes and then I'll come back and I'll read your Super Chats.

00:34:04.920 So I see Cox, Jeffrey Cox.

00:34:08.920 And it's his family, it's a family thing.

00:34:10.920 Being sworn in.

00:34:11.920 It's like a, it's a, it's a public ceremony, but really it was his friends and family there.

00:34:17.920 And I was there and I was very well behaved.

00:34:19.920 But he leaves, he's walking on the court.

00:34:23.920 I go and I say, hello.

00:34:24.920 I shake his hand.

00:34:25.920 I say, congratulations.

00:34:27.920 And then I ask him a question.

00:34:30.920 Right there in the court.

00:34:31.920 Now my camera's not running.

00:34:32.920 You don't bring a camera right in the court there.

00:34:34.920 But I ask him a question.

00:34:37.920 Ask him, what do you say about Tommy Robinson and his appeal?

00:34:42.920 Do you think it's appropriate the government's, I can't remember exact wording, but I asked him about Tommy's case.

00:34:48.920 I'm sorry, I can't remember what I said.

00:34:50.920 I'll have to look at my notes.

00:34:52.920 I think I did a video on it.

00:34:55.920 And he said to me, he answered me.

00:34:57.920 He said, I've been so busy reading my files, preparing to be the attorney general.

00:35:00.920 I just haven't had a chance to be briefed.

00:35:02.920 Now, I don't know if I believe that, but it's a credible answer.

00:35:06.920 You're about to be sworn in as the nation's top lawyer.

00:35:09.920 You're probably doing a lot of homework.

00:35:11.920 You're probably a little bit panicked.

00:35:14.920 You're probably reading a hundred files.

00:35:16.920 Half of which are probably confidential.

00:35:19.920 Half of which would make your hair stand up like a porcupine.

00:35:22.920 The kind of cases, terrorism, corruption.

00:35:27.920 So this is a man with a lot of things on his plate.

00:35:31.920 Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he had not, in fact, been briefed on Tommy.

00:35:36.920 You can't say that now.

00:35:38.920 And in fact, where the big wig, Nicholas Hilliard, QC, the recorder of London, kicked the case back over to the attorney general.

00:35:47.920 At the old bail, he said, Mr. Lennon, you're free to go.

00:35:50.920 There are no more bail conditions on you.

00:35:52.920 You're at liberty.

00:35:53.920 It's now in the hands of the attorney general.

00:35:56.920 That was in, I'm trying to remember my dates.

00:35:59.920 That might have been October 3rd.

00:36:01.920 Trying to remember my dates.

00:36:03.920 I went over there five, six times last year.

00:36:06.920 So I remember having lunch with Tommy right there near the Thames.

00:36:09.920 We just grabbed some food on the street.

00:36:12.920 And he felt free.

00:36:14.920 He said, you know, I'm free now.

00:36:15.920 This isn't hanging over my head anymore.

00:36:18.920 And we both agreed that it would be nuts for the attorney general to start again.

00:36:24.920 I mean, first of all, remember Tommy just had a huge demo.

00:36:28.920 Can we get, can we get, can we get the demo?

00:36:32.920 I think it was October 3.

00:36:33.920 I can't remember my dates.

00:36:34.920 Maybe it was September.

00:36:35.920 No, no, not the Brexit demo.

00:36:38.920 The big Tommy Old Bailey demo.

00:36:40.920 And, um, so not only did Tommy win at the Court of Appeal.

00:36:49.920 And not only did Tommy win at the Old Bailey when Nicholas Hilliard, the recorder, said,

00:36:54.920 I'm not going to hear this case.

00:36:56.920 It's not appropriate for me to hear it.

00:36:58.920 You're free to go, Mr. Lennon, unless the attorney general says otherwise.

00:37:03.920 So Tommy's feeling like a million bucks.

00:37:05.920 And there was a huge demo that day.

00:37:08.920 Let me know when we get it.

00:37:09.920 I don't care what you show.

00:37:10.920 You can even show people singing an Ezra song.

00:37:12.920 That was a very fun moment for me when I got up there and, uh, I can't even remember what

00:37:19.920 happened, but it was very fun.

00:37:21.920 Um, yeah.

00:37:24.920 Yeah.

00:37:25.920 So remember that.

00:37:26.920 Do we have any, uh, yeah, look at this.

00:37:28.920 Look at this.

00:37:29.920 Look at how big the demo is.

00:37:30.920 Look, look, look, look at that.

00:37:31.920 Look at that.

00:37:32.920 Look at that.

00:37:33.920 Look at that.

00:37:34.920 Look at that.

00:37:35.920 Look at that.

00:37:36.920 Look at that.

00:37:37.920 Look at that.

00:37:38.920 Look at that.

00:37:39.920 Look at that.

00:37:40.920 Look at that.

00:37:46.920 Can I ask you a question?

00:37:48.920 When was the last time thousands and thousands of people waited for hours outside the court

00:37:58.920 like that?

00:37:59.920 Has it ever happened?

00:38:01.920 And they were singing the song.

00:38:02.920 You could see they were singing the song there written by Owen Benjamin.

00:38:06.920 How they rule you to the tune of hallelujah.

00:38:09.920 They got all sorts of flags.

00:38:11.920 I see the, the union flag.

00:38:13.920 I see the American flag.

00:38:15.920 I saw the Gadsden flag that don't tread on me.

00:38:18.920 Now this is a, this is a little video we made.

00:38:21.920 There's obviously a mashup with, okay, we can take the video down.

00:38:23.920 My point is, so Tommy had one in the court of the appeal, right?

00:38:27.920 Then he had one of the old Bailey when the recorder of London, Nicholas Hilliard QC,

00:38:32.920 the big wig says, I'm not taking this.

00:38:33.920 You're free to go.

00:38:34.920 If the attorney general wants a PC he can have at you.

00:38:37.920 See you later.

00:38:38.920 All right.

00:38:39.920 And then look at that rally outside.

00:38:42.920 Holy moly.

00:38:44.920 I can't remember how many people were there, but you saw with your own eyes.

00:38:47.920 Thousands.

00:38:48.920 And they had been waiting all day.

00:38:50.920 I remember getting to court that day.

00:38:52.920 I got there really early and it was already packed.

00:38:55.920 It was packed at like 8 a.m.

00:38:57.920 And I think that that moment there was probably around like 1 p.m.

00:39:01.920 Pretty amazing.

00:39:02.920 So I'm trying to remember how the day went.

00:39:06.920 Maybe I'm mixing up my days.

00:39:07.920 But I remember sitting down with Tommy and we were just grabbing a bite right next to the Thames.

00:39:12.920 We just found some little place.

00:39:13.920 He got a bite.

00:39:15.920 And for the first time in six months he looked relaxed.

00:39:19.920 Because even though he was out and he was getting a little bit better.

00:39:22.920 He had some sleep and some food and normalcy.

00:39:25.920 The stress of this hanging over him was, it was manifest and you could see it in him.

00:39:30.920 And I think for the first time he exhaled, ah, because you know what he told me?

00:39:36.920 He was worried that he would, he didn't want to be in prison over Christmas.

00:39:39.920 That was his big worry.

00:39:40.920 He said, if they come at me again, I don't want to.

00:39:44.920 It was very important to him to be with his family over Christmas.

00:39:47.920 So he felt relief.

00:39:50.920 And I thought, well, you just had the Court of Appeal absolutely demolish how they treated Tommy.

00:40:00.920 It really proved everything he's ever said about the establishment being against him.

00:40:04.920 The stitch up.

00:40:05.920 I recommend his book, his autobiography, Enemy of the State.

00:40:10.920 I finally sat down and read that thing.

00:40:12.920 It's a great story.

00:40:14.920 It's very, very funny also.

00:40:16.920 It's very sad also.

00:40:17.920 There's some very sad moments in it.

00:40:20.920 The theme is, he's the enemy of the state.

00:40:22.920 It's all a stitch up to get him.

00:40:24.920 And there's a lot of proof in that book.

00:40:27.920 Sometimes people say, oh, come on, Tommy, stop being so paranoid.

00:40:30.920 Stop your conspiracy theories.

00:40:32.920 Well, really?

00:40:33.920 You go to judiciary.uk, type in Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, you read what the Court of Appeal said.

00:40:40.920 Are they part of the conspiracy theory?

00:40:42.920 Because they said there was a conspiracy.

00:40:44.920 They didn't use that word.

00:40:45.920 They just listed how every element of the state conspired to improperly put Tommy in prison.

00:40:51.920 Of course, they didn't use the word conspiracy.

00:40:54.920 They're fancy judges.

00:40:56.920 They just said words like improper.

00:40:59.920 And they freed Tommy from prison.

00:41:01.920 It was so improper.

00:41:03.920 And so my point is, so there I am with Tommy.

00:41:05.920 He's exhaling for the first time.

00:41:06.920 He's relaxed for the first time.

00:41:08.920 He knows he's not going to be in prison over Christmas.

00:41:12.920 And I think, come on now.

00:41:14.920 It's the Attorney General.

00:41:15.920 It's Theresa May.

00:41:16.920 Because remember, Attorney General is a member of Cabinet.

00:41:19.920 Pretty sure.

00:41:20.920 That's how it works.

00:41:21.920 Well, we know it's a political appointee.

00:41:24.920 Answers to the Prime Minister.

00:41:27.920 To prosecute Tommy Robinson would be a Cabinet-level decision.

00:41:31.920 Absolutely.

00:41:33.920 And they made it.

00:41:35.920 They made that decision.

00:41:36.920 They decided to go for him.

00:41:38.920 Can we play, can you grab Tommy's announcement from yesterday?

00:41:41.920 Can we, I don't want to play the whole thing.

00:41:43.920 We don't have time.

00:41:44.920 Can you play like the first 60 seconds of it?

00:41:47.920 Let me know when you have it.

00:41:49.920 Okay.

00:41:51.920 So Theresa May instructed Jeffrey Cox to proceed with the prosecution.

00:41:57.920 Remember, the judge of the Old Bailey said, I'm not doing this.

00:42:00.920 If there's a political citizen to do it, they can do it.

00:42:03.920 I'm not doing this.

00:42:04.920 The big wig.

00:42:05.920 So Jeffrey Cox, obviously he's had his briefing on Tommy now.

00:42:10.920 And he's decided to prosecute.

00:42:11.920 Here, take a quick look.

00:42:12.920 Look, I'll only play about a minute of this.

00:42:15.920 A, I've been recharged.

00:42:18.920 The Attorney General, not the police.

00:42:20.920 The government are prosecuting me.

00:42:23.920 I will face prison again for the original contempt charge,

00:42:28.920 which I was free from prison for.

00:42:30.920 The same charge that five months ago, the highest judge at the Old Bailey refused to hear.

00:42:35.920 Five months later.

00:42:36.920 Five months later.

00:42:37.920 Why five months later?

00:42:38.920 What's taken five months?

00:42:39.920 I'm now being...

00:42:40.920 Well, it's obvious what's taken five months.

00:42:42.920 In my view, Tommy's bigger than ever by many measures.

00:42:46.920 He had a big Brexit demo.

00:42:48.920 I wasn't there for that one.

00:42:50.920 Then he had his big takedown of the BBC called Pano Drama.

00:42:54.920 Pano Drama.

00:42:55.920 I went to that one in Manchester.

00:42:57.920 Tommy's bigger than ever.

00:42:59.920 Now, Facebook just shut him down.

00:43:00.920 His last medium is YouTube.

00:43:02.920 I got to tell you, I don't know how long they're going to let him up there.

00:43:04.920 I think they're going to censor him.

00:43:05.920 So it's the final move.

00:43:06.920 They're making the final move on Tommy before Brexit.

00:43:10.920 Maybe it's not related to Brexit.

00:43:12.920 Maybe they just want to shut him up.

00:43:14.920 Maybe they think if they do it around Brexit, there'll be other...

00:43:17.920 I don't know.

00:43:18.920 But it's insane and absurd.

00:43:20.920 In America, my American friends would say,

00:43:22.920 Well, what about double jeopardy?

00:43:23.920 The guy's already...

00:43:24.920 You know, you threw it out once.

00:43:25.920 You don't get to keep shooting until you hit.

00:43:30.920 So I talked to Tommy today.

00:43:31.920 I talked to Tommy yesterday.

00:43:32.920 I talked to Tommy's lawyer today.

00:43:34.920 Obviously, some of the things we talked about are not mine to disclose.

00:43:38.920 And I'll let Tommy and his lawyers disclose them when the time is relevant.

00:43:43.920 It goes without saying that Tommy's going to fight like hell.

00:43:46.920 You know that.

00:43:47.920 I described to you how I participated in Tommy's legal defense first in Canterbury,

00:43:51.920 when he had that 4am raid.

00:43:54.920 And then how I, after a month worth of trying, helped.

00:44:00.920 In Leeds, we crowdfunded his legal defense.

00:44:02.920 Tommy's obviously at Liberty now.

00:44:04.920 So he is handling his own crowdfunding.

00:44:06.920 And I encourage you to support his legal defense through Tommy.

00:44:11.920 Tommy.

00:44:12.920 But I know I have one role that I continue to play with Tommy's request, I suppose.

00:44:20.920 He asked me to come to Manchester.

00:44:23.920 One of the ideas we cooked up.

00:44:26.920 And, like I say, I was listening to these BBC reporters, the Sky News reporters, these Guardian, these Independent, these awful reporters.

00:44:35.920 And I thought, I've never seen a media so biased in my life.

00:44:39.920 I mean, my American friends say, oh, CNN's bad.

00:44:42.920 CNN is nothing like the British media.

00:44:44.920 My Canadian friends, I use the phrase media party.

00:44:46.920 The media party, because it's like a political party.

00:44:49.920 You've seen nothing until you've seen the British.

00:44:52.920 Can we play some of that BBC clip?

00:44:53.920 Now, I don't know which BBC interview I did.

00:44:56.920 Some of them were awful.

00:44:57.920 Some of them were great.

00:44:58.920 Some of them I was literally swearing at the BBC.

00:45:01.920 I don't know which one this is.

00:45:02.920 So you say you found a BBC clip.

00:45:04.920 I'm rolling the dice here because I don't know what clip you have.

00:45:06.920 Let's play that just for a minute here.

00:45:08.920 People in the United Kingdom who were ignored by the establishment.

00:45:14.920 Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum has a phrase.

00:45:17.920 He calls it the five P professionals.

00:45:20.920 The press, the politicians, the police, the prosecutors, the professors.

00:45:26.920 Just by chance, they all start with P.

00:45:28.920 And these five P professionals have ignored the will of the people on the issues of Islam,

00:45:38.920 open borders, globalism, Muslim rape gangs.

00:45:42.920 And so Tom has filled the void where, for example, in Rotherham, there was a terrible cover up for years about these rape gangs.

00:45:52.920 That's, I think, the main thing that motivates Tommy.

00:45:55.920 And the media won't report it.

00:45:59.920 And when Tommy, it's one of Tommy's main issues.

00:46:03.920 And instead of the elites accepting Tommy's coverage and activism on these issues, they have punished him.

00:46:16.920 They have showed tremendous bias against him.

00:46:20.920 And that's one of the lessons from the Court of Appeal ruling yesterday.

00:46:24.920 Can I pick you up on just a couple of things?

00:46:27.920 Sure. Yeah.

00:46:28.920 If I may.

00:46:29.920 If I may.

00:46:30.920 This very phrase, Muslim rape gangs.

00:46:33.920 I mean, in 2011, he said, this was in reference to Islamist atrocities.

00:46:40.920 Every single Muslim watching this, we got away with killing and maiming British citizens.

00:46:46.920 You know, we're coming for you.

00:46:48.920 Now, do you recognize that this is hugely, toxically, terribly offensive to the vast majority of law abiding, peaceable Muslims in this country?

00:47:02.920 And if he were just let me finish, if you would, if he were to be more precise, and I've spoken to many Muslims about this.

00:47:12.920 Mm hmm.

00:47:13.920 He should be referring to a certain rural background from Pakistan and Kashmir, which has nothing to do with the religion and everything to do with culture.

00:47:28.920 That's that would be more accurate and less offensive.

00:47:33.920 Mm hmm.

00:47:34.920 See, Nikki, I want to point out what you've just done, because I don't even know if you're doing it.

00:47:38.920 See, what you did is you immediately cherry picked a comment Tommy made seven years ago, which you had prepared by your researchers.

00:47:46.920 You were so ready to go instead of actually asking me about the news.

00:47:50.920 You went for a seven year old comment that, by the way, Tommy had apologized for years ago, because you just can't stand for even one day, for even five minutes of one day to actually get a real answer to your question.

00:48:06.920 I just want to explore the phrase, Muslim rape gangs.

00:48:09.920 I just, honestly, I just want to explore that phrase because it's so offensive to law abiding people.

00:48:14.920 First of all, speak to your, speak for yourself, Nikki.

00:48:19.920 For example, Majid Nawaz of the Quilliam Foundation, he's a Muslim person, unlike you, Nikki.

00:48:25.920 And he has spoken very specifically about Tommy.

00:48:29.920 And he uses the phrase Muslim rape gangs because he's not politically correct like you and most of the BBC.

00:48:35.920 And so Majid Nawaz says basically what I've said.

00:48:39.920 If, if the rest of the media had done their job, if the police and the rest of the 5P professionals had done their job, Tommy Robinson would not have filled that void.

00:48:50.920 And if, if after Rotherham and Roschdale and all these other rape gangs, if you still are so politically correct, Nikki, that you will not even allow this interview to get going without jumping in with a seven year old talking point.

00:49:05.920 But this phrase Muslim rape gangs, I want to ask you about that, how offensive it is to law abiding people in this country and imprecise as well.

00:49:14.920 Speak for yourself, Nikki, because you're, you're professionally offended on behalf of Muslims.

00:49:20.920 And that goes to my point.

00:49:22.920 Who is there for the forgotten people?

00:49:25.920 Tommy.

00:49:26.920 And now you have your answer.

00:49:27.920 You have, in fact, personified the answer to your own question.

00:49:32.920 The reason Tommy Robinson is so popular is because unlike you, Nikki, he will use the word Muslim rape gang and he won't start scolding people for protesting the fact of the industrial scale rape of indigenous British girls.

00:49:49.920 You know what?

00:49:50.920 I'm, I'm sorry I played so much of that, but it was a reminder.

00:49:53.920 And that was, I was, that was very sleepy.

00:49:56.920 I had been up all night and then I had this early morning interview or felt early morning.

00:50:00.920 I was jet lagged.

00:50:01.920 So forgive me for my sleepy voice.

00:50:03.920 But, um, do you see what, do you see my point?

00:50:07.920 You're probably thinking, why did you play that clip?

00:50:09.920 I played that clip because Tommy Robinson had just won the greatest legal victory in contempt of court in 70 years.

00:50:15.920 Absolute repudiation of the establishment, the 5P professionals that I described there.

00:50:21.920 Absolutely tearing to ribbons his treatment at the hands of the state.

00:50:27.920 Absolutely vindicating everything in this book, Enemy of the State.

00:50:30.920 And I'm on the BBC with a guy I've never talked to before, Nikki.

00:50:34.920 I sure used his name a lot there.

00:50:36.920 And what does Nikki want to say?

00:50:38.920 Excuse me, Ezra, on the internet, I'm doing an accent.

00:50:44.920 On the internet, I see that in 2011, Tommy said something mean.

00:50:50.920 So I want to talk about that.

00:50:52.920 Instead of the greatest legal development of 2018, do you see my point about the media stitch up?

00:50:59.920 Do you see my point?

00:51:00.920 And I did three BBC interviews that day, and they were all worse than the next.

00:51:04.920 And Sky News, and Channel 4, and The Guardian, and The Independent, and even The Times and The Telegraph,

00:51:10.920 and for some bizarre reason, papers allegedly on the right, and papers allegedly for the working man.

00:51:16.920 They were all, not one of them talked about the substance of the case.

00:51:20.920 That's why earlier I said, go read the case for yourself.

00:51:23.920 Because you think Nikki there is going to tell you about the case?

00:51:27.920 Well, you think Ezra, in 2011, Tommy had an unpaid parking ticket, and he hasn't returned a library book.

00:51:36.920 So what are we going to do about this hearing on March 22nd?

00:51:39.920 That's when Tommy's new contempt of court hearing is tentatively scheduled.

00:51:44.920 Now, I spoke with Tommy's lawyer, and there's a chance that that may be moved.

00:51:47.920 But we have to assume it's proceeding on March 22.

00:51:50.920 That's two weeks from today.

00:51:51.920 Well, I talked to Tommy, and I got on the phone.

00:51:54.920 I don't know if you're good to go to realreporters.uk.

00:51:56.920 So we just set up this website.

00:52:00.920 So look at the people there.

00:52:01.920 There's Tommy on the left.

00:52:02.920 Then that guy next to him, that's me.

00:52:05.920 And then that guy next to him, that's Andrew Lawton.

00:52:08.920 He's a Canadian reporter.

00:52:10.920 He came to cover talk.

00:52:12.920 Then who's that guy with the beard?

00:52:14.920 That's Count Dankula.

00:52:15.920 I just talked to him this morning.

00:52:17.920 He said he'll try and make it.

00:52:19.920 I said, well, crowdfund your ticket.

00:52:23.920 He said, that sounds great, mate.

00:52:25.920 He's amazing.

00:52:27.920 Next to him is Cassandra Fairbanks.

00:52:30.920 She's from Washington, D.C.

00:52:32.920 She's with Gateway Pundit.

00:52:34.920 She came last time.

00:52:35.920 If he goes on the 22nd, she'll be there.

00:52:38.920 Who's next to her?

00:52:39.920 Will Chamberlain.

00:52:40.920 He's a lawyer by profession.

00:52:42.920 He's also in Washington, D.C.

00:52:44.920 He's the new publisher of Human Events, a magazine with decades of history.

00:52:50.920 He's a lawyer, and the reason that's important is he can help tell this story properly.

00:52:56.920 And you know why I really want to bring these Americans?

00:52:59.920 And there's two other people that I haven't confirmed yet.

00:53:02.920 I haven't put on the picture.

00:53:03.920 I want Americans to talk about this because I want to internationalize this story

00:53:07.920 because I think that Tommy's a political prisoner and we need moral pressure.

00:53:10.920 I think Donald Trump, it's possible, if we have enough Americans writing about this,

00:53:15.920 maybe Donald Trump's going to tweet about it one day.

00:53:18.920 And then who are those three lads at the end there?

00:53:22.920 Ian, Jordan, and Daryl.

00:53:25.920 They're from Manchester, so they're not actually from away.

00:53:28.920 I met them when I was up there for Tommy's Panadrama thing.

00:53:31.920 They're with a website called Politicalite, and I call them citizen journalists.

00:53:36.920 They're young guys, so just a little website, Politicalite.

00:53:38.920 You want to put Politicalite up just for a second?

00:53:41.920 So it's this website based in Manchester.

00:53:43.920 It's the only pro-Tommy media I can find in the United Kingdom.

00:53:47.920 So I met with them.

00:53:48.920 I said, who are you guys?

00:53:49.920 And so we had a good chat.

00:53:51.920 And I said, well, can you guys, you're only, there we go.

00:53:54.920 Here's the website, back in court.

00:53:55.920 You see?

00:53:56.920 They're the only pro-Tommy people.

00:53:57.920 So I said, lads, can I send you a train ticket?

00:54:00.920 Can you come on down?

00:54:01.920 So go back to realreporters.uk.

00:54:03.920 So what we're doing, so what does this mean, real reporters?

00:54:06.920 Well, you heard me, put real reporters back up, please.

00:54:09.920 So you heard me going toe-to-toe with Nikki of the BBC.

00:54:12.920 You can't trust them.

00:54:13.920 So what am I doing?

00:54:15.920 Me, Andrew, Count Dankula, Cassandra, Will, Ian, Jordan, Daryl.

00:54:26.920 Daryl, that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

00:54:29.920 And I'm talking to two other journalists right now, and they're not confirmed yet.

00:54:35.920 But there could be ten of us.

00:54:38.920 Now, three of the lads, as you can see, are coming from Manchester.

00:54:41.920 But the rest are coming from Canada, the United States, or Australia.

00:54:47.920 I'm talking to Avi.

00:54:49.920 I think we just got to work on the dates with him.

00:54:51.920 Why?

00:54:52.920 Why are we doing this?

00:54:54.920 Well, I told you why.

00:54:55.920 I showed you why.

00:54:56.920 You know why.

00:54:57.920 I don't have to tell you why.

00:54:58.920 It's because Tommy Robinson cannot get a fair shake in the court of public opinion

00:55:02.920 from the existing media party in the United Kingdom.

00:55:05.920 I was there.

00:55:06.920 I seen it with my own.

00:55:07.920 I was in court four, five, six times for Tommy.

00:55:09.920 I don't remember how many times.

00:55:10.920 It was as if I was sitting in a different room than those other reporters.

00:55:16.920 Because what they reported bore no resemblance to the truth of what happened in there.

00:55:22.920 And so I said, Tommy, you crowdfund the legals.

00:55:27.920 I'll crowdfund the reporters.

00:55:29.920 You take care of the court of law.

00:55:31.920 I mean, I'll help him if he needs any help, but he's got good lawyers.

00:55:34.920 We'll handle the court of public opinion.

00:55:36.920 Because don't you think the court of public opinion is just as important these days?

00:55:39.920 That's why they kicked him off Facebook.

00:55:41.920 That's why they kicked him off Instagram.

00:55:43.920 That's why they kicked him off Twitter.

00:55:45.920 That's why they kicked him off PayPal.

00:55:47.920 They're trying to cut off his tentacles.

00:55:51.920 Like a starfish trying to cut off his arms.

00:55:54.920 They know how important that is.

00:55:57.920 They haven't been able to tag him in court on this stuff.

00:56:00.920 Well, they did, but we got them out.

00:56:03.920 So if you want to help us bring these reporters, here's the deal.

00:56:08.920 Economy class airfare, hotel, three star, nothing more than that.

00:56:13.920 Taxi fare and reasonable expenses for food.

00:56:16.920 So we're flying people in from Washington, from Toronto, maybe from Melbourne.

00:56:21.920 Economy class.

00:56:23.920 We have eight to ten people.

00:56:25.920 We're bringing the lads down by train.

00:56:27.920 That's going to cost between $10,000 and $15,000.

00:56:31.920 And the rule is everyone has to be economical.

00:56:33.920 So if you want to help, please do go to realreporters.uk.

00:56:36.920 Okay, I'm going to do my best to whip through the Super Chats.

00:56:39.920 Do I have them in an email format?

00:56:42.920 Okay.

00:56:43.920 Okay.

00:56:44.920 I'm going to do my best to get through the Super Chats here.

00:56:49.920 Because I really appreciate that.

00:56:51.920 I hope you can understand why I just chose to go on this subject.

00:56:56.920 Because, Justin, I've got to find your email here.

00:57:00.920 It came from you, I take it?

00:57:03.920 Sorry, folks.

00:57:06.920 Oh, it's from Alex.

00:57:08.920 Okay.

00:57:09.920 Sorry, folks.

00:57:10.920 Give me one second.

00:57:12.920 Alex in our control room just emailed me all the Super Chats.

00:57:15.920 Because he knew I was not doing them.

00:57:17.920 I'll have them here in one second.

00:57:19.920 I've just got to find his email.

00:57:22.920 Okay.

00:57:23.920 Here's my goal.

00:57:24.920 Get through the Super Chats.

00:57:28.920 I have 100,000 on open emails.

00:57:31.920 So you can understand why it's going so slowly.

00:57:34.920 Here we go.

00:57:35.920 Thank you for your patience.

00:57:37.920 Gabriel Swift.

00:57:38.920 Hi, Ezra.

00:57:39.920 Will you be attending on the 22nd?

00:57:40.920 Yes, is the answer.

00:57:42.920 Although there's a chance that date might be moved.

00:57:45.920 That's how it was last time.

00:57:46.920 Dates were moved around.

00:57:47.920 But whenever it's on, I will be there.

00:57:50.920 James Brain.

00:57:52.920 Could Tommy seek political asylum in the US?

00:57:54.920 Yes, he could.

00:57:56.920 But he won't.

00:57:57.920 Why should he leave England?

00:57:58.920 Why should he leave the UK?

00:58:00.920 Would you leave your home?

00:58:01.920 Or would you fight to save it?

00:58:03.920 Tommy could leave any time.

00:58:04.920 There's no restriction on Tommy leaving the United Kingdom.

00:58:07.920 He can't go to America for reasons I won't get into now.

00:58:12.920 Although that could be fixed.

00:58:13.920 But he doesn't want to leave.

00:58:14.920 Why should he leave his country?

00:58:15.920 Because there's an abuse of political corruption.

00:58:18.920 Wild Oats.

00:58:19.920 Is this Raybould's play for the PM job?

00:58:22.920 You're talking about the Canadian Attorney General, former Attorney General, Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:58:27.920 Could be, but I don't think so.

00:58:30.920 Proud Boys Calgary.

00:58:32.920 This is how they rule you.

00:58:33.920 Yeah, ain't that the truth.

00:58:35.920 Ain't that the truth.

00:58:36.920 But Tommy's fighting back.

00:58:37.920 Look at all the people that were there at the Old Bailey.

00:58:39.920 Don't think they won't be there next time at the Royal Courts of Justice.

00:58:42.920 Veritas Vincit.

00:58:43.920 It's time to kick the globalists as they are scared of the free thinkers people talking.

00:58:50.920 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:58:52.920 Ole Larson.

00:58:53.920 Sir yaks a lot.

00:58:56.920 That's a good one.

00:58:57.920 Mark Britton.

00:58:58.920 Can a legal case be made against the British police and judiciary for all the illegal actions

00:59:01.920 and practices carried out in May last year?

00:59:03.920 Use the appeal findings against them.

00:59:06.920 No.

00:59:07.920 Maybe against the police for false arrest.

00:59:10.920 But I think simply a judge being wrong is not a judge committing a crime or offense.

00:59:19.920 Right?

00:59:20.920 Because otherwise any judge who's overturned on appeal would be a criminal.

00:59:23.920 So simply being wrong is not enough.

00:59:26.920 But I deeply believe that Tommy's treatment in prison was illegal.

00:59:31.920 It was not contemplated by the law and it was outside of their own rules.

00:59:35.920 Starving a man, keeping him in a cage for 10 weeks.

00:59:38.920 I believe Tommy does have a cause of action against the prison authorities.

00:59:43.920 This show's too short.

00:59:45.920 Hour and a half, Ezra.

00:59:47.920 Well, maybe we'll go a few minutes long because it's 1259 and I'm not even done this.

00:59:50.920 Can you send me, Alex, can you send me the more?

00:59:53.920 So I'm going to go, I'll go, I'll go 10 minutes long.

00:59:56.920 Okay, we'll go 10 minutes long.

00:59:58.920 I do have a few other things I've got to do.

01:00:01.920 And I'm sorry I had like a 50 minute opening ramble there.

01:00:04.920 So we'll go 10 minutes long.

01:00:08.920 Steve Benbob, Theresa May is demonic.

01:00:11.920 Well, I don't know if I need that adjective because I know she's a lot of other things.

01:00:16.920 I know that she is weak.

01:00:18.920 She's selling out on Brexit.

01:00:20.920 And she is not grappled with the essential issues that, as I said to Nikki of the BBC, have been ignored.

01:00:29.920 They've been ignored.

01:00:31.920 Majid Nawaz, who's sort of a frenemy of Tommy's.

01:00:35.920 He's the head of the Quilliam Foundation.

01:00:37.920 He said, can you find the Majid Nawaz on LBC where he says Tommy Robinson has filled the void?

01:00:43.920 You're going to have to look a little bit for that one.

01:00:46.920 We'll play it if we can find it.

01:00:48.920 He said, if the British media had done their proper job and covered these stories without being so politically correct,

01:00:55.920 Tommy Robinson would not have been able to fill the void because there wouldn't have been a void.

01:00:59.920 That's another way of saying if everyone else is like Nikki of the BBC would stop.

01:01:03.920 Well, how dare you say rape gangs?

01:01:06.920 Well, because they're gangs of men who are raping young indigenous British girls as young as 11.

01:01:10.920 That's why we say rape gangs, Nikki.

01:01:12.920 Well, do you know how offensive that is?

01:01:14.920 Nikki, can you just stop blocking the news for a minute and start reporting the news?

01:01:18.920 And as Majid Nawaz says, if anyone had actually done that, there would be no demand for Tommy Robinson.

01:01:24.920 And I can assure you Tommy Robinson would do other things with his time.

01:01:27.920 DSSA, get based Amy there.

01:01:31.920 She's legit awesome.

01:01:32.920 I meet her at all the events.

01:01:33.920 She shows up at all of Tommy's events.

01:01:35.920 So I've met her about five times.

01:01:36.920 I haven't had a deep substantive conversation with her, but she's always there.

01:01:40.920 Ben Tomlinson, Ezra's sarcasm is on point today.

01:01:44.920 What sarcasm?

01:01:46.920 Kristen Carlson, I wish I could give more.

01:01:48.920 Thank you so much, Ezra.

01:01:49.920 Well, that's nice of you to say.

01:01:51.920 What I'm trying to do, like, maybe I went a little bit crazy with the invitation.

01:01:56.920 Could we put real reporters back up for a second?

01:01:59.920 Maybe I went a little bit crazy.

01:02:01.920 Because that's a lot of plane tickets we're on the hook for.

01:02:08.920 Now the three lads on the right, those are just train tickets from Manchester.

01:02:11.920 I took a train up to Manchester.

01:02:13.920 I can't remember.

01:02:14.920 They're not that expensive, obviously.

01:02:16.920 Especially if you book in advance.

01:02:18.920 We'll still probably have to get them a hotel room, those three lads.

01:02:21.920 The two in the middle there coming from D.C.

01:02:24.920 And I'm talking to someone else from D.C.

01:02:26.920 There's going to be an expense there to get them from Washington to London.

01:02:31.920 We'll probably have to bring them in the day before.

01:02:33.920 Give them a hotel.

01:02:34.920 And the hotel the night up.

01:02:35.920 So we're probably looking at two hotel rooms for two nights.

01:02:38.920 Count Dankula.

01:02:39.920 I don't know if you'll fly or if you take a train.

01:02:43.920 Probably he'll fly in from Edinburgh.

01:02:45.920 I'm not sure.

01:02:46.920 Andrew Lawton coming from London, Ontario.

01:02:48.920 That's definitely a flight.

01:02:49.920 He's going to fly from London to Toronto.

01:02:51.920 Then Toronto to London.

01:02:52.920 The other London.

01:02:53.920 And I'm coming from Toronto too.

01:02:55.920 So that's one, two, three, four, five flights.

01:02:59.920 Three trains.

01:03:01.920 Eight hotel rooms for two nights.

01:03:04.920 That's 10,000 bucks easy.

01:03:05.920 That's probably 15,000 bucks.

01:03:07.920 I mean, unless we can get a good airfare.

01:03:10.920 And there's two other people I'm talking to.

01:03:12.920 So I have said to Tommy, I'll take care of this side.

01:03:16.920 You take care of the law side.

01:03:17.920 You spend time with your lawyers.

01:03:19.920 And we're going to do this.

01:03:22.920 So help me out, folks.

01:03:25.920 Help me out.

01:03:26.920 Can you take that down?

01:03:27.920 Help me out.

01:03:28.920 I just made a bunch of promises.

01:03:29.920 And so I'm getting their airfare and their plane fare and their hotel and a taxi.

01:03:36.920 And they're parking back in Canada or U.S. or wherever.

01:03:38.920 Oh, and there's Avi Yamini.

01:03:39.920 If he says yes, he's got to figure something out.

01:03:42.920 That's a flight from Melbourne.

01:03:43.920 And then I said to these folks, I said, look, I don't want you to be out of pocket.

01:03:46.920 So reasonable incidentals, like a reasonably priced lunch and breakfast or something.

01:03:50.920 I'm not saying you've got to come here and lose $1,000 to cover Tommy.

01:03:55.920 We'll keep you whole.

01:03:56.920 We won't make you any money.

01:03:57.920 So I think we need probably $10,000 or $15,000.

01:04:00.920 If you can help me, please do.

01:04:02.920 Go to realreporters.uk.

01:04:04.920 I think it's going to make all the difference in the world.

01:04:06.920 Because that interview with Nikki of the BBC, that's how bad it is.

01:04:11.920 But you know that.

01:04:12.920 All right.

01:04:13.920 Have I missed any Super Chats?

01:04:16.920 As Mahamud.

01:04:17.920 Mr. Levan, I'm a big fan.

01:04:18.920 Thank you for everything you do.

01:04:19.920 I think Tarek Frato would be an amazing addition to the Rebel cast.

01:04:21.920 Your thoughts?

01:04:22.920 I like Tarek a lot.

01:04:23.920 I've had him on the show occasionally.

01:04:26.920 Sometimes he travels a lot, so he's hard to pin down.

01:04:29.920 He's welcome anytime.

01:04:30.920 And I know he had a very successful show in India called Fatah Kafatwa.

01:04:35.920 Or maybe I got that reversed.

01:04:37.920 He's great.

01:04:38.920 Tez TR, Tommy needs Lord Pearson to help.

01:04:42.920 You betcha.

01:04:43.920 And I had a great honor of spending some time with Lord Pearson.

01:04:47.920 And he actually gave me a tour of the buildings, the Westminster Palace, as it's called, which was memorable for a lifetime.

01:04:55.920 And I only wish that I was there with my family to have had such an amazing tour.

01:05:00.920 He is the only Lord, 800 or 600 Lords, the only parliamentarian in either the House of Commons or the House of Lords who will stand with Tommy.

01:05:11.920 That's a rare man.

01:05:12.920 Yeah, I agree with you.

01:05:13.920 RCW, what about Tim Pool?

01:05:15.920 Yes, Tim Pool, absolutely.

01:05:18.920 And I actually don't have a contact info for him, but I'm sure it's not hard to find.

01:05:24.920 I think he should come.

01:05:25.920 Yeah, absolutely.

01:05:26.920 He's going to be perfect for this.

01:05:28.920 Thank you for the suggestion.

01:05:30.920 Pablo Insano, join UKIP people.

01:05:33.920 It helps.

01:05:34.920 Yeah.

01:05:35.920 Tommy Robinson is a member of UKIP.

01:05:36.920 And I should say that I see Gerard Batten, the leader of UKIP at many Tommy events.

01:05:41.920 All right.

01:05:42.920 It's one oh five.

01:05:43.920 Oh, which which clip are you referring to?

01:05:45.920 Oh, we got the Majid clip.

01:05:48.920 OK, yeah, go ahead.

01:05:49.920 We, media, the establishment, society, the chattering classes, the liberal elite, whatever term you want to use, have ignored the issue of grooming gangs,

01:06:03.920 of young, vulnerable teenage girls who have been victimized, drugged and raped and abused.

01:06:10.920 Whether it's the Rotherham case or all the other cases that were replicated across the country,

01:06:14.920 it is both the conclusion of the prosecutor in the Rotherham case, British, Pakistani, Muslim, Nazir Afzal,

01:06:21.920 or indeed the official inquiry into why it took so long for these young, vulnerable, underage girls to get justice.

01:06:29.920 Both of those concluded that fears of racism prevented us from coming to the defense of vulnerable, underage girls.

01:06:37.920 Fears of racism meaning that the state was scared that it would be accused of being racist if it rightly arrested and prosecuted British,

01:06:48.920 Pakistani largely British, Pakistani Muslim men in their abuse of underage white teenage girls.

01:06:58.920 And so from fear of appearing racist, there was a silence across the country as multiple cases of grooming gangs emerged up and down the country,

01:07:09.920 as evidenced now due to multiple prosecutions, successful prosecutions, but sadly and unfortunately too late.

01:07:17.920 If we hadn't all been silent, if we had all addressed this issue head on when it needed to be addressed, when it was time to address it,

01:07:26.920 then the void would not have emerged for the populist agitators to fill that gap and become popular actually as a result of addressing what is a legitimate issue.

01:07:39.920 They ended up hijacking what should have been the concern of every right minded citizen in this country.

01:07:45.920 And unfortunately, it takes a bit of courage to address something that people will hurl abuse at you for talking about.

01:07:55.920 I know on this show, on my own show on the weekends, I've tried to book certain MPs to come on and address the issue of grooming gangs

01:08:03.920 and on multiple times they've had to back away from fear of the backlash.

01:08:08.920 We recall Sarah Champion, who in the Labour Party attempted to address this.

01:08:13.920 Great clip. We don't have time to play more of it.

01:08:16.920 I would differ only very slightly in nuance.

01:08:20.920 Tommy didn't hijack this issue.

01:08:23.920 Hijack implies he took it over from someone else.

01:08:26.920 When you hijack a plane, you kick out the pilot and you grab the controls.

01:08:29.920 There was no one doing this.

01:08:32.920 You don't hijack a void.

01:08:35.920 There was no one talking about it.

01:08:37.920 And even Majid Nawaz obviously has the Teflon of being a Muslim man himself.

01:08:42.920 I think he might even be a Pakistani background.

01:08:46.920 The prosecutor in Rotherham, as you heard there, himself was a Pakistani prosecutor

01:08:51.920 because those are the only people who won't be shouted down as racist.

01:08:55.920 You're racist. You're racist.

01:08:57.920 Well, you can't call Majid Nawaz a racist.

01:08:59.920 And you can't call, I forget the name, I don't want to guess, the name of the prosecutor in Rotherham.

01:09:05.920 You can't call him a racist.

01:09:07.920 You can call Tommy Robinson a racist. He don't care.

01:09:10.920 You can arrest him on the street for breach of the peace.

01:09:13.920 That's a false arrest, by the way.

01:09:15.920 So maybe there is a charge against him.

01:09:17.920 All right, folks, it's 109. I've gone on a little long.

01:09:19.920 Let me just say thank you to a few other Super Chat contributors.

01:09:24.920 Private Percy, thank you.

01:09:26.920 Jet Grant says, good on you, Ezra.

01:09:27.920 All right, well, we'll see you over the UK.

01:09:29.920 Funky Monkey says, Ninth Circle answers the cover-up questions.

01:09:33.920 All right, so it's 110 here in Toronto.

01:09:36.920 It's 610 out there in Luton.

01:09:39.920 Let me conclude with what's going on.

01:09:44.920 So let me just sum it all up if you're still watching.

01:09:46.920 Tommy Robinson has been notified by the Attorney General in a political decision that surely was approved by Theresa May herself

01:09:54.920 that he will indeed have to answer for contempt of court again for what he did outside the Leeds Court in May of 2018,

01:10:03.920 despite having already served 10 months in solitary confinement.

01:10:07.920 That's the shocking news.

01:10:09.920 A court date has been set of March 22nd.

01:10:12.920 That's exactly two weeks from today.

01:10:14.920 There is a chance that date will move.

01:10:16.920 That's how things go.

01:10:18.920 Last year, things moved around probably about half the time.

01:10:22.920 Nonetheless, we are planning to bring the eight reporters you saw there on the realreporters.uk page.

01:10:29.920 We're going to either bring them on the 22nd, or if that date changes, we'll be there.

01:10:35.920 If it changes, we might change the personnel, because some people might be able to come.

01:10:39.920 Some people might not be able to come.

01:10:41.920 I will be there no matter what.

01:10:43.920 I will be there no matter what.

01:10:46.920 And I think some of the friends there will be because it's so important to them.

01:10:50.920 Tommy's doing his own crowdfunding for the lawyers.

01:10:55.920 We're doing the crowdfunding for the journalists.

01:10:57.920 We're splitting it up that way.

01:10:58.920 I talked to him about it on the phone.

01:10:59.920 I said, I'll tell people to go to your site to pay for the lawyers, and we'll handle the real reporters here.

01:11:05.920 I said, you focus on the lawyers.

01:11:07.920 You talk to the lawyers.

01:11:08.920 You do with the lawyers.

01:11:10.920 That's what's going on.

01:11:12.920 I'm sort of shocked that they're taking another run at him.

01:11:16.920 I think it's politically stupid.

01:11:20.920 You saw those huge demos on the streets.

01:11:22.920 I think it's legally stupid.

01:11:25.920 No other journalist has been sentenced to prison since the 1940s for contempt in the UK.

01:11:32.920 Tommy is already excessively punished.

01:11:35.920 It's legally inappropriate to try and punish him anymore.

01:11:38.920 He's literally becoming a political prisoner.

01:11:42.920 I think Tommy will win.

01:11:44.920 I hope so.

01:11:45.920 I have to say he's won so far, even though I've had a bit of a paranoia about the judges.

01:11:51.920 Would you acknowledge that the Court of Appeal, led by the Lord Chief Justice himself,

01:11:56.920 and then the old Bailey, led by the Court of London himself, have actually done the right thing?

01:12:01.920 So maybe, maybe Tommy will win again.

01:12:06.920 I'll keep you posted.

01:12:08.920 I'll try not to overdo this subject.

01:12:10.920 I'll try not to over-email you.

01:12:12.920 But if there is news, I'll let you know.

01:12:14.920 If the date changes, I'll let you know.

01:12:16.920 If there's a development, I'll let you know.

01:12:17.920 You'll probably learn from Tommy before you learn it from me, because I get my news from Tommy on this.

01:12:22.920 All right.

01:12:23.920 It's 112.

01:12:24.920 Thank you for joining in today.

01:12:26.920 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at TheRebel.media,

01:12:30.920 goodbye, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - March 08, 2019

EZRA LIVE! Urgent Tommy Robinson UPDATE plus your questions & comments

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