Fighting fake news about Israel, and social media censorship (Guest： Brian of London)
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Brian of London is a British-Israeli activist, journalist, and blogger. He moved to Israel about 10 years ago, and now lives in Tel Aviv with his wife and daughter. He is a supporter of the pro-Israel campaign Tommy Robinson and has been censored by the mainstream media for his support of it.
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The Tommy Robinson campaign for MEP, big tech censorship, and how Hamas is continuing to target Israeli citizens.
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I'm Sheila Gundryd, and you're watching The Gun Show.
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Now, I've said it before, and I'm sure I'll say it dozens more times before I finally hang up my reporter badge,
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that fake news, as we know it today, was perfected against the state of Israel.
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The tactics of deceptively editing videos, putting women and children up front in war zones,
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and then painting the aggressors as the innocent little victims have been long used against Israel for decades
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to make them look heavy-handed when responding to constant violence, rocket attacks, kidnappings,
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and all other manner of terrorism directed at Israeli citizens by their Islamic extremist neighbors.
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So, instead of going to the fake news in the mainstream media to find out exactly what's happening on the ground in Israel,
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I like to turn to the people who are on the ground in Israel.
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And as it turns out, one of my Israeli friends has also had his pro-Israel Facebook page censored
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because he is an avid supporter of Tommy Robinson.
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So, we obviously have a lot to talk about, don't we?
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So, joining me from his fortified home in Tel Aviv in an interview we recorded what would have been Tuesday morning for me
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and Tuesday night for him is my friend, activist, journalist, and blogger, Brian of London.
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So, joining me now from Tel Aviv is my friend, Brian of London.
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We have so much to talk about from the fact that, you know,
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Israel has been engaged in a bit of a, you know, frankly, a war over the, about the past week
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to the media treatment of Israel for defending itself to Tommy Robinson
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And I tell you what, okay, on a sit, hi, I'm Brian of London, by the way.
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And I'm Brian of London, and I'll just explain for your audience that don't know me,
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I am of London, I am not in London, so I moved to Israel about 10 years ago.
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And I'm sitting here in a bomb shelter in Tel Aviv.
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And I say, when I say a bomb shelter, it's a real bomb shelter,
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The window to my left has got a one centimetre thick steel shutter that I can draw across.
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And for the last week, well, for the last few days, anyway, we had that steel shutter closed.
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Because if an alarm were to go in this area, which fortunately, on this occasion, it hasn't,
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then we would, you know, my family and I would run in here, we'd have about 90 seconds,
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which is a veritable fortune of time compared to the south of Israel.
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And this room, which is built in the centre of the tower block, so it's sort of the core of the
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building, this room is supposed to be able to withstand, you know, if the building took a direct
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hit from one of the larger rockets that could get here, this room would be okay, even if the rest of
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So that's, and that's built into almost all modern Israeli homes.
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So that leads into why when 700 rockets were shot at us, were there only four deaths?
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Well, I think it was four on our side, which is terrible.
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But it's because of precautions like this room, the alarms that we have, and of course,
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the famous iron dome that knocks out some of the missiles on the way.
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Yeah. And I mean, you say you have 90 seconds to get into your bomb shelter there in Tel Aviv.
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But when you look at the folks in, for example, Starote or some of the places that are closer to
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Gaza, they really have, you know, no time at all.
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And I've been in Starote and they've done their best to make it, you know, a growing,
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The playgrounds have the netting over top to protect the children.
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I mean, it is really, for someone like me, I've never been exposed to any of that.
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The conditions in which Israelis have to live just to live next door to people who want to
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I mean, it's really, to see, I guess to put it this way, to see communities like Starote
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growing and thriving, despite the fact that one kilometer away, people are trying to kill
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them every single day, I think is a testament to the Israeli spirit.
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I mean, this is, this is just a sort of a screen.
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Yes, that's what it looks like when, when we're under rocket attack, I've got this app
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I got this app on my phone that just shows each rocket alarm in the south.
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And as you say, down there, they've got five to 15 seconds if they're lucky.
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And the people who were hurt or injured in this current round, you know, they just didn't
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One, one person was killed in, by an actually by an anti-tank missile.
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This is again, this is stuff you are not going to hear in the mainstream media.
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You'll hear this crazy thing of, of exchanging deaths.
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So they'll always treat deaths on our side and deaths on their side as equivalent.
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So one person was killed because they were driving on a road that probably, in hindsight,
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And they fired an anti-tank missile at a civilian car.
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And that means that somebody in Gaza was holding this anti-tank missile and guiding it towards
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So that is, you know, that's an absolutely deliberate and total attack on a civilian.
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Then it passed into Iran and it gets remanufactured in either Iran or I think they can even remanufacture
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And I know this missile because my brother-in-law actually in the Lebanon War in 2006, his unit
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This is full-on war against a civilian population.
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And you don't really get those little nuances and details.
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No, in fact, you know, I was reading Israel Hayom today.
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And they're talking about the atrocious coverage in the New York Times.
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And if you'll remember the New York Times just days ago or maybe a week ago, I mean, they
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were responsible for that anti-Semitic cartoon where Israel is the dog that's leading the United
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And then they publish this, an article that basically says, this is their headline, Gaza
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So the the rocket numbers are a little higher now.
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And Israel responds with airstrikes as though Israel's being heavy handed defending innocent
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citizens from 200 like it's it's more than double that now.
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But 250 rockets fired at innocent civilians mining their business is a lot.
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And, you know, the the you know, this sort of sentiment here is that Israel has no business
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being absolutely heavy handed in defending their citizens.
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I've seen some of the drone footage that the IDF Twitter account puts out.
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Firstly, firstly, OK, I'll just point out some one some details that you can get just by
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OK, one, the Gazans, the people in Gaza, they often share videos of buildings being demolished.
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What you'll notice about a lot of those videos is they knew where to point their cameras.
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How do you know where to point your camera when a bomb is falling?
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You only know where to point your camera if you've been told where the bomb is going to fall.
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So a lot of the time we were bombing again empty buildings, which is somewhat annoying.
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OK, so we took out their cyber HQ command and probably blew up some nice gaming machines.
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But I'm kind of the population is getting a bit annoyed with with taking out buildings.
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However, in this case, we also did take out some key people.
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They shared two videos, I think one of a strike on a motorcycle and one of a strike on a car.
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These were like busy streets and a missile hits a car on a busy street and nobody else is damaged.
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If you go Google and look for sort of the aftermath of American hellfire hits in Yemen,
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you will find 15 meter craters where hellfire missiles took out, you know, a single ISIS pickup or an Al-Qaeda pickup.
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So we're obviously using very it's probably the hellfire missile.
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It's probably the same missile, but it's very low yield because we know we're trying to take out one motorcycle on a busy street.
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I mean, I don't think any any army in the history of warfare has ever cared so much and we get no credit for it.
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OK, we keep doing it because I think that's our nature.
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I mean, we really have no interest in mass slaughter of unarmed civilians because there's just that we have such a massive prejudice within ourselves against doing that.
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You know, I mean, I see those crowds cheering and shouting and claiming victory.
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You know, you want to put a bomb in those, but we never do that.
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And I mean, the biggest one for us this time around was, you know, very early on, always there's a pregnant mother and a child killed.
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And immediately the world's press take as gospel truth, whatever the Hamas or the what's called the Gaza Health Ministry, which is actually run by Hamas, they take whatever they say.
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So their headlines all scream pregnant woman and child killed in Israel killed during Israeli air raids or whatever it does.
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I mean, you know, the time cycle has come down a little bit, but we're absolutely certain now that no Israeli activity was happening where this woman died.
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And it sounds like Palestinian Islamic Jihad is admitting to the fact that it was one of their rockets falling short, as always happens.
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Because if they shot 600 or 700 that actually made it into Israeli airspace, you can you can guarantee that 50 to 100 fell short and landed in Gaza itself.
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Yeah, I mean, you look at places like, for example, here in Canada, the CBC or The New York Times or CNN, they're taking the numbers from the Gazan Health Authority, which is a mouthpiece for a U.S. designated terrorist group.
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They're taking them as a credible source of information about casualties.
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And they're not even pretending that there are almost no foreign journalists in Gaza.
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It's too dangerous because if they were to report anything that Hamas didn't like, they would be taken out to the back and at best beaten up and at worst shot.
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So there are no ways to corroborate independently any of the information that they're given.
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They do not even say this is the these these are numbers from the Gaza Health Ministry, which has lied and lied and lied.
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And everything they've ever told us in the past was a lie.
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No. And then and then, you know, at the bottom of the article, maybe they'll put in a you know, they'll they'll put in a and the idea, the idea vehemently denied.
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Which leads which which I must say leads most of us here in Israel, especially the non Anglos, especially the ones who are not looking at the foreign press.
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We just they just don't care and they don't want us to care.
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And I mean, if anything, there is some there's always anger that we maybe we stop too early.
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But I mean, I've like to bring it on to the political level, I've I've gone looking.
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So the press is all full of, you know, politicians in Gaza saying that that there have been all these concessions and that we're going to start opening up the imports and letting them have things that we haven't had for a while.
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But when I actually look, the the only thing that's been said from the Israeli side and like I'm done with the media now, I'm done with anonymous sources.
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Prime Minister Netanyahu's remarks on recent events in the South.
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Over the last two days, we struck Hamas and Islamic Jihad with great force.
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We struck at terrorist leaders and operatives and we destroyed terrorist building.
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If someone can tell me how to pronounce that, I'll say it differently.
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The goal has been and remains ensuring quiet and security for the residents of the South.
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I send condolences to the families and best wishes for recovery to the wounded.
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So, I mean, it's not really a ceasefire as far as I can tell.
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And the big deal is that, and I mean, it's literally, it's three kilometres outside my window.
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We're going to be holding the Eurovision Song Contest, which I know in North America, you
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But trust me on this, it's absolutely enormous.
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But a lot of the, but all the competitors, oh, my headphones are causing problems.
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And so it was a, it was a very, very big deal that we didn't have any air raid alarms in Tel
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Aviv while this was ongoing, because I think that would have shaken some people up.
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But, and the other, the other thing that's happening now is that tonight we're going to
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have, we're going to have a siren actually in two hours time, which is going to be the
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This is our Memorial Day for fallen soldiers, those fallen in war and fallen in acts of terror.
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So unfortunately, we'll be commemorating this year, we're commemorating, you know, those
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who were just killed right now in this act, you know, by the rockets and so forth.
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And my, my, my own friend, Ari Fuldu was killed in the previous year.
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So this is the first ceremony since he, he was murdered.
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Um, and we do that for 25 hours, you know, from sun, sun down tonight till sundown tomorrow.
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And then the day after we flip into our independence day.
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I know I, I try to leave, get, leave gaps for you, but the point is, this, this is these
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two days, uh, Yom HaZikaron, that, which is day of memory.
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That's the literal translation and Yom HaZikaron and Yom HaZikaron and Yom HaZikaron and Yom HaZikaron,
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It is so different to the kind of American and even now, you know, the British, which
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I presume Canada follows Britain with, you know, Armistice Day on November the 11th.
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It's still solemn, but we have this, you know, because we have this, uh, countrywide siren
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Wherever you are, you stop, you get out, you stand by your car for two minutes.
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And then tomorrow morning at 11 o'clock, people will gather in, uh, all of the cemeteries
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Um, one of the biggest in Tel Aviv and, and, you know, the whole area here becomes completely
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Uh, and I think tomorrow I'm going to be up actually in Gush Etzion, um, which is the
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high ground that's just South of Jerusalem, which you've visited, I'm sure.
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Um, and Etzion Junction, there's a place where we're going to be having a memorial for Ari
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Fuld, uh, and this was, you know, Gush Etzion is very, I tell you, it's a very important
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place, I think, for Jews because it's a part of land.
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It's, it was, it had been, Jews had come back there and really built lots of communities
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But in the independence war of 1948, we just couldn't hold it.
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It was, we couldn't even hold on to all of Jerusalem.
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So the remote Kibbutzim outside of Jerusalem to the South in the hills, we couldn't reinforce.
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And eventually they were surrounded and overrun by the Jordanian army with the help of the
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British, um, you know, British supplied, British trained, uh, and they slaughtered some
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And that area got turned into what the Jordanians called the West Bank.
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And now there are, you know, large numbers of people living there.
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And Ari Fuld, my friend, was one of the people who lives up there, who lived up there.
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Now, I wanted to, you know, you know, it's, it's so good to hear, you know, like you say,
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you point out, especially us Commonwealth countries, our, um, remembrance day celebrations or armistice
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or whatever the other Commonwealth countries call it, uh, very solemn days.
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Um, but, um, yours leading up to, um, your independence day.
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Um, I think it's sort of most, yeah, it's peculiar.
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I mean, it's like, it's not, it's not something I ever understood when I didn't live here.
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Because it's this, you know, I mean, it's already, it's winding down now.
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I can hear, I mean, literally I can hear that the traffic is lighter now than it normally is at this time of the evening.
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The television will switch into a somber thing.
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It will replay documentaries about fallen soldiers and people killed in terrorist attacks.
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It might well be that the program about my, about my friend, Kay Wilson, who, you know, um, Sheila,
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Um, I, they might be playing her, the documentary about the attack that, that took her friend's life
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And then one of the channels just shows the name.
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So it's just a name, you know, name, name, and it will show all the names going all the way back to 1948.
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Or even before, actually, I think it sort of goes back to the twenties and so on.
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So those killed in the Hebron massacre, um, before the, the establishment of the state of Israel.
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It links most definitely what we have, which is this Jewish state of Israel, which is our home,
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which is a refuge, which is somewhere that Jews all over the world, you know, however bad Europe gets.
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And those, some of those Jews might not be grateful for it now, but we're here for them,
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no matter how much they hate us now and want to BDS us and join J street and do other crazy things.
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If they show up at the airport and say, we would like refuge, we'll take them.
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And that's linked to the sacrifices of so many who laid down their lives and fought in wars and in acts of terror committed along the way to have what we have.
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I don't know how I can segue away from something so poignant.
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Um, but, uh, let's change gears completely to, um, although I guess we're still talking about freedom, um, to big tech censorship.
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You, you have been a victim of Facebook purging.
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Um, and you have a theory about why that happened to you.
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I used to be on your Facebook and I never saw anything crazy, but all of a sudden one day you were gone.
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Um, and you know, just Twitter, just, I guess it, by the time people are seeing this, it would be like Monday night that it happened.
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Um, Mike Morrison, an Orthodox Jew who had a parody account of, um, AOC, the, the easily, uh, yeah, like, so, and a very clearly marked as a parody account, because that's one of the rules.
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If you have a parody account, you have to mark it as parody.
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Well, he had it in the name and the bio and Twitter nuked his account.
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And I think it was because it was so effective and it's leading up into the 2020 election.
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So it's time to silence all those effective voices.
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The same thing happened to you leading up to another election that I think is probably pretty important for our friends in the UK.
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I've supported Tommy Robinson pretty much since the beginning of the EDL.
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I was one of the first people to really look critically at who he was, what he was saying, what were the people around him doing, what, what was the EDL all about?
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And I established very early on that they were not far right or whatever that means today.
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He didn't hold any of this Zionist Rothschild conspiracy nonsense in his head.
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In fact, back in the earliest days, he had no idea what Jews were.
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He just knew that Jews had never caused any problem for him in his life.
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You know, on a mountain, on a micro scale, he he was not never in playground fights with gangs of of angry Jews.
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Whereas the playground at his school was divided, not on racial lines, not black versus white or black versus brown.
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It was divided on Muslims and non-Muslims, Kuffar and and Muslims.
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So I really sussed him out very, very early and he hasn't let me down, to be honest.
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Anyway, when he was banned from Facebook, basically because all parts of the British government demanded it.
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My Facebook account, my main Brian John Thomas, as it was called, account was deleted that day.
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My page, my Brian of London page lived on for a while because I had designated some friends as administrators.
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But then I was just in London actually last week over the Easter holiday with my kids.
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And while I was in London, you know, Brian of London's page was finally just erased, just gone, whoosh, whoosh, the history is gone.
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And mostly it was it was years of pro-Israel work, bit of bit of real talk about Islam.
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But of course, it has some pictures of Tommy and I'm obviously close to Tommy.
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And what's what's actually happened in Britain is that the government has told Facebook and YouTube because, you know, that they've hobbled his YouTube channel completely.
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They've put every single video of his that he's ever done, including, you know, there's a video.
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There's videos of him where he's giving a wheelchair to a disabled child.
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This video is so controversial that you are not allowed to comment on it, like it, share it or see it without clicking a warning that the contents might be might be upsetting to you.
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He's a is a is a man handing over a wheel, a motorized wheelchair to a child because he raised the money for it.
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And, you know, right now, the UK has gone into these insane European parliamentary election, which they should never have been because Europe was supposed to be.
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Britain was supposed to be out of the European Parliament on March the 29th.
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I may you know, it's almost it would give him no power.
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I mean, he'll have the power to give a one minute speech in the EU Parliament.
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But the message it will send, I think, is almost Trumpian.
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It's it's definitely the biggest thing to happen since the Brexit vote if he can take this seat.
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But at the same time, talk about collusion and talk about trying to influence democracy.
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His page, because I was an administrator on his Facebook page, over a million likes, over a million followers, huge engagement.
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I mean, way bigger than Corbyn, Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the Labour Party, way bigger than the Labour Party in terms of engagement.
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When we posted videos on that and his page was disappeared within 24 hours of posting his expose on the BBC panodrome.
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It got one million views, according to Facebook's crazy statistics.
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And this is a huge this is influencing democracy.
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He's not going to be allowed access on the BBC.
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But, you know, I have to say, he's got his own website now, tr.news.
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We've got the Telegram channel up and running, which is really interesting.
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I'm very, very impressed with Telegram because it's it's it was started by two Russians who are dissident.
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I think they're running it from Dubai or something.
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I mean, basically, their terms and conditions are don't do anything illegal or don't say anything illegal in public.
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If you say it in private, their terms and conditions are like this big.
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So they have to infiltrate these organizations, take over with their sort of little millennial zombie armies and and just change the rules.
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No. And, you know, you touched on this, and I think it's a very important point for all the conspiracy theories about foreign meddling in the American election.
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You know, there's a Russian under everybody's couch during this last election.
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When they nuke Tommy Robinson's wide-reaching ability to communicate with his potential voters, thus, you know, harming his election chances, this is foreign meddling in a in a UK election.
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And nobody seems to be all that concerned about it because all the elites, they really don't seem to like the target.
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It's, you know, it's this situational ethics when it comes to free speech.
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Oh, I'm all, I believe in free speech, except when that person says something that I don't like.
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That's just acceptable speech, which is really the opposite of free speech.
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It's one of my mantras, which is that voting is the last and least important part of democracy.
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The speech that leads up to it, being free to talk.
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This is the difference between a fear society and a free society.
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And it's, you know, instead of it getting worse, we are closing it down.
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You know, you can't talk about, you can't misgender someone.
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I mean, God forbid, I don't know how they've been saying that the new royal baby is a boy,
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because it would appear to me that we should be waiting a little while for the child to decide for itself.
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I don't know why we're imposing these gender normative roles on the royal baby at such an early stage.
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I'm wondering whether your channel will be demonetized because of my joke.
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If we say anything about Trudeau or feminism or Islam or terrorism, instant demonetization.
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Now, it hasn't stopped us from talking about those things.
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It's probably encouraged us to talk about those things.
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Because now we know people, the powers that be, don't want to hear from us saying those things because we're speaking the truth.
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Brian, I'm going to give you an opportunity to, because I've had you for over 30 minutes here.
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And I know that you have things that you need to do tonight.
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I want to give you a chance to let people know where they can find you on the social media platforms that you have remaining and how they can support some of your work.
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But the primary one, the one that I've set up, that I own, is brianoflondon.me.
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And you can find me on there as brianoflondon.me has got links to everything.
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And I'm brianoflondon on Twitter for as long as that lasts.
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But just to say, I am working with someone here in Israel.
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We're planning to sue Facebook and Google in Australia for hundreds of billions of dollars.
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Hundreds of billions of dollars because they did something that is illegal under Australian
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And we've got a huge, huge claim of damages, a class action.
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But I actually, I just want to destroy Facebook.
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So find me at brianoflondon.me and you'll find more information on my plans.
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I can't wait to see Facebook brought to its knees in the same way that I can't wait to
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see Gavin McInnes take the SPLC to the cleaners.
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And I think it's time that more people fight back.
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You know, we just, they nuke these conservative accounts and everybody goes, whoa, that's the
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terms of service, you know, they're a private company.
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Because what's so funny is that what happened was that these companies, Google and Facebook,
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within weeks of each other, banned the advertising of almost anything related to the entire crypto
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But it's also anything you can do with the technology that underlies crypto currencies.
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They said, in effect, what they said was, some of this is a scam.
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So we're just going to ban all of it while we check.
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And it's like saying that, you know, you get some Nigerian scam emails.
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So we're just going to take Nigeria off the internet for now.
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And that might be legal in America, but it turns out it's really not legal in a lot of
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And Australia is one of the places that's got very strict rules.
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When two companies that together operate more than 80% of the advertising market, which they
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do, when they do take exactly the same action at the same time, they've got a problem because
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Now, if they'd have asked for permission in Australia, they'd, you know, but they didn't.
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And they probably have no idea that they should.
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They just, they're just Silicon Valley companies that are arrogant.
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That's what I, and they just said, okay, these are our rules.
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And right now, Facebook is on the verge of launching its own cryptocurrency.
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So something that it declared to be a scam and too dangerous to advertise on Facebook,
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they're about to spend billions of dollars launching.
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No, we're going to, you know, we're raising the money to bring the case.
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And I'm really, I'm really actually quite excited by it.
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Brian, I want to thank you for being so generous with your time and coming on the show.
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Please stay safe and keep fighting for free speech from wherever you are,
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Now, I might be a little biased, but I think the work that Brian does is pretty darn effective.
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And I think Facebook has had to admit that too.
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You see, Brian's been telling the other side of this story of what's happening on the ground in Israel
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because Israel is on the front lines of the global jihad.
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And Brian's guilty of the new Orwellian wrong think of just thinking maybe, maybe,
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Tommy Robinson has a bit of a point when it comes to Islamic rape gangs and extremism in Britain.
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Now, I encourage you all to take a look at Brian's work while you still can,
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if only for the reason that big tech doesn't want you to.
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And I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
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And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.