Rebel News Podcast - Fighting for journalistic freedom： why Rebel News works to free reporters from jail

00:00:00.000 Hello, Rebels, a bit of a special show today,

00:00:02.200 a recap of the last four or five times

00:00:05.280 we actually redeemed captives,

00:00:09.220 as they would say in the Bible,

00:00:11.180 when we bailed journalists out of jail,

00:00:13.920 fought for their freedom.

00:00:15.660 It's a best of episode,

00:00:17.860 this time the best of us freeing journalists from jail.

00:00:22.540 I really wish you could see some of the videos here.

00:00:24.700 They were quite interesting, some of them,

00:00:26.580 and you can do that becoming a Rebel News Plus.

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00:00:33.740 You also get access to video podcasts

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00:00:43.340 Anyways, here's today's podcast.

00:00:44.660 I hope you find it interesting.

00:00:59.280 Tonight, the Old Testament and the New Testament

00:01:03.600 say the same thing.

00:01:05.020 It's a good thing to redeem captives.

00:01:07.500 Today, a special report on the journalists

00:01:10.240 that Rebel News has helped bust out of jail.

00:01:13.260 Why should others go to jail

00:01:16.720 when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:18.920 There's 8,500 customers here,

00:01:21.200 and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:22.980 The only thing I have to say to the government,

00:01:25.460 the why I publish it,

00:01:26.740 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:28.840 Last week, you may have seen the shocking moment

00:01:35.980 when my friend and colleague David Menzies

00:01:38.320 was arrested and put in the back

00:01:41.360 of a crowded police vehicle,

00:01:42.940 no air conditioning,

00:01:44.140 when it was almost 30 degrees out

00:01:45.760 and made to sit there for that crime.

00:01:48.680 It's not even a real crime

00:01:49.920 of trespassing on public property.

00:01:52.340 He wasn't trespassing.

00:01:53.520 He was there to ask public interest questions

00:01:55.520 of the mayor of Brampton,

00:01:57.440 and a sneaky little guy named Patrick Brown,

00:01:59.880 who had been caught red-handed by David,

00:02:01.980 sneaking into an ice arena

00:02:03.740 to play hockey with his buddies

00:02:05.440 after having banned all the children

00:02:07.480 from his town from doing so.

00:02:09.080 So David was there to do real journalism,

00:02:11.840 but apparently in small-town Brampton,

00:02:14.360 it's a bit more corrupt than in a bigger city,

00:02:16.920 and the police came time after time.

00:02:19.740 Five squad cars came on Wednesday

00:02:22.240 to arrest David.

00:02:25.220 Well, we didn't need to bail him out

00:02:27.580 because he was released on his own recognizance,

00:02:29.460 but we are going to court for him.

00:02:31.180 And it made me think,

00:02:32.180 I was worried they were going to take him to jail.

00:02:33.560 I think that'll be next.

00:02:34.900 Patrick Brown likes to abuse his critics.

00:02:37.540 But it made me think,

00:02:39.260 we like to rescue journalists from jeopardy,

00:02:43.940 not just our own journalists.

00:02:45.840 So today, on this Labor Day Monday,

00:02:49.320 we're going to have a special retrospective

00:02:51.700 on the best moments of rebel news

00:02:55.360 getting journalists out of jail.

00:02:59.760 Let's start with the biggest fight we ever fought,

00:03:03.200 our friend in the United Kingdom, Tommy Robinson.

00:03:06.560 Tommy worked for us for a while,

00:03:08.240 but shortly after departing from us,

00:03:10.020 and maybe because of that,

00:03:11.440 he was arrested by a bunch of police

00:03:14.000 packed in the back of a police wagon

00:03:16.120 and trotted off to court

00:03:17.700 where he was immediately sent to prison.

00:03:20.620 Solitary confinement, no less.

00:03:22.900 It was incredible.

00:03:24.060 And I think one of the reasons

00:03:25.500 police took that liberty

00:03:26.520 is because he was not working with us.

00:03:28.240 And we like to roll with lawyers.

00:03:30.800 Tommy was going solo.

00:03:32.940 Well, over the course of the next year and a half,

00:03:35.220 I flew over to the United Kingdom,

00:03:37.160 not only to report on the story,

00:03:38.520 but to crowdfund the massive legal bill

00:03:41.860 to run an appeal of Tommy's contempt of court conviction,

00:03:45.860 and then to fight the second time

00:03:48.320 he was charged with the same thing.

00:03:50.280 Here, a few highlights of our fight

00:03:52.320 to free Tommy Robinson.

00:03:53.920 Ezra Levant here for the Rebel.media.

00:03:55.560 I am at a reception of Tommy's most ardent supporters

00:03:58.820 the night before his, hopefully,

00:04:01.700 final contempt of court hearing,

00:04:03.600 where he will hopefully finally beat the rap.

00:04:05.580 Tommy, it's been 14 months.

00:04:07.060 I've never heard of a contempt of court case

00:04:08.760 lasting more than a year.

00:04:10.000 This is unprecedented.

00:04:11.680 Well, my lawyers believed

00:04:12.940 it would have got kicked out of the last stage

00:04:14.440 for that one reason alone.

00:04:16.240 It's unfair to have it hanging over me.

00:04:17.960 It's been hanging over me for a year.

00:04:19.960 I think that's done on purpose.

00:04:22.160 You've read the case.

00:04:23.560 My lawyers are confident.

00:04:24.780 I've committed no crime.

00:04:25.860 I've broke no law.

00:04:27.020 So I hope I'm cleared tomorrow.

00:04:29.500 I hope that I can get on with my life.

00:04:31.800 I'm not confident.

00:04:32.400 I'm not confident.

00:04:33.200 My lawyers are.

00:04:33.920 As you said, this is the seventh time

00:04:35.480 seventh or eighth time

00:04:36.920 I've been to court for this case.

00:04:38.740 I've never heard of that before.

00:04:39.800 Remember what this case is?

00:04:40.640 I held up my phone

00:04:41.440 and I read public information.

00:04:42.820 That's my case.

00:04:43.880 Yeah, and you had a general public commentary.

00:04:45.400 You weren't even in the rape gang trial.

00:04:47.340 You couldn't have spoken about

00:04:48.580 details of the trial

00:04:50.120 because you weren't in there.

00:04:50.940 No.

00:04:51.440 And my crime,

00:04:54.260 which I find so shocking,

00:04:55.980 is that my charge

00:04:57.040 is that I could have,

00:04:58.240 the perceived chance

00:04:59.260 that I could have caused anxiety

00:05:01.260 to the now convicted Muslim rapists.

00:05:03.940 And the wording on their charge

00:05:05.140 is that these Muslim rapists

00:05:06.580 must be free to come to court

00:05:08.420 without fear of molestation.

00:05:10.340 Molestation.

00:05:10.860 That word is so ironic

00:05:12.240 given that they were pedophiles.

00:05:13.280 They used that in my charge.

00:05:14.280 That's why they used it in my charge.

00:05:15.260 I'm reading it thinking,

00:05:16.080 are they for real?

00:05:17.000 Are they trolling me?

00:05:18.140 To the media,

00:05:19.640 are you aware of the charges I face?

00:05:21.700 Are you aware of the charges I face today?

00:05:31.340 My charge,

00:05:32.440 one of my charges,

00:05:33.620 is that taking a photo

00:05:34.740 of someone walking into court.

00:05:37.440 If I'm guilty of contempt,

00:05:38.600 every one of you standing here

00:05:39.640 filming me are guilty of contempt.

00:05:45.020 A journalist just asked me,

00:05:47.920 you'll see the video evidence

00:05:49.480 of all of this.

00:05:50.520 A journalist just asked me,

00:05:52.200 how are you feeling

00:05:53.180 about your case today?

00:05:55.580 That is identical

00:05:56.480 to my other charge.

00:05:58.380 I face free charges.

00:06:01.340 One of my charges

00:06:02.260 is that by asking the defendant

00:06:04.540 how they feel about their verdict,

00:06:07.580 I can cause them anxiety.

00:06:10.520 You know the most

00:06:11.060 of them pedophile convicted rapists?

00:06:13.540 The Attorney General

00:06:14.660 is concerned

00:06:15.500 with the perceived anxiety caused.

00:06:18.520 Journalists,

00:06:19.640 media,

00:06:20.940 it's not me on trial today,

00:06:22.700 it's your freedom.

00:06:23.460 Your freedom as journalists,

00:06:25.980 your freedom,

00:06:26.840 your freedom

00:06:28.480 to ask someone

00:06:29.920 how they feel

00:06:31.140 about their verdict,

00:06:32.640 your freedom

00:06:33.360 to take picture

00:06:34.680 of people on trial.

00:06:37.240 if this will be used

00:06:39.240 as a test case,

00:06:40.660 if I'm guilty of contempt,

00:06:42.640 every single one of you

00:06:44.040 who photographed me,

00:06:45.780 who accosted me

00:06:46.580 at every one of these trials

00:06:47.920 are also guilty.

00:06:49.660 You will hear today,

00:06:51.520 I've gone through this case

00:06:53.060 with my solicitors

00:06:53.760 and my barristers,

00:06:55.080 you will hear today

00:06:56.060 the evidence.

00:06:57.560 I have not broke

00:06:58.840 any law.

00:07:01.200 Read the law.

00:07:02.840 Journalists,

00:07:03.580 read the law.

00:07:04.700 A judge

00:07:06.280 does not have power

00:07:07.780 under any

00:07:08.780 Section 4

00:07:09.640 reporting restriction

00:07:10.680 to prevent

00:07:12.020 publication

00:07:12.940 of information

00:07:14.700 that is already

00:07:16.020 in the public domain.

00:07:18.560 Tommy Robinson

00:07:19.240 was convicted

00:07:20.760 a second time

00:07:22.480 for contempt of court

00:07:23.600 for the same incident

00:07:25.240 for which he was convicted

00:07:26.140 last time,

00:07:28.080 namely doing journalism

00:07:29.320 on his Facebook livestream

00:07:30.940 from outside

00:07:31.840 a court in Leeds

00:07:33.160 where a Muslim rape gang

00:07:34.680 was on trial.

00:07:36.420 I thought it was,

00:07:37.680 I actually thought

00:07:39.040 Tommy Robinson

00:07:39.900 would have won today.

00:07:41.680 I thought that the

00:07:42.560 prosecution's case

00:07:43.660 was laughably weak.

00:07:45.360 I thought that it was undone

00:07:46.480 by the fact that,

00:07:47.320 well,

00:07:47.820 the trial we know

00:07:48.740 concluded successfully.

00:07:49.840 The men were convicted,

00:07:51.100 so how could he have

00:07:51.940 disrupted that trial?

00:07:52.860 And secondly,

00:07:54.240 what the prosecution

00:07:55.560 piled up into a heap

00:07:57.160 to make up for that

00:07:58.300 lack of real argument,

00:07:59.520 I thought,

00:07:59.960 was that Tommy asked

00:08:02.060 the accused rapist

00:08:03.140 as they walked into trial

00:08:04.260 into court

00:08:05.140 on their judgment day,

00:08:06.620 quote,

00:08:07.520 how do you feel

00:08:08.260 about your verdict?

00:08:09.000 That's all he said,

00:08:09.600 no swearing,

00:08:10.420 no blocking or touching them,

00:08:12.280 no insulting them,

00:08:13.680 no assuming their guilt,

00:08:15.700 and for simply saying,

00:08:16.740 how do you feel

00:08:17.800 about your verdict today?

00:08:19.560 The judge found

00:08:20.800 that was one of the

00:08:21.680 three grounds

00:08:22.400 upon which

00:08:23.780 he was convicted,

00:08:25.600 and it was just incredible.

00:08:27.100 I don't want to call it

00:08:29.420 a stitch-up

00:08:29.920 because I want to

00:08:31.920 acknowledge that

00:08:32.880 I may not have

00:08:33.640 a full understanding

00:08:34.520 of freedom of speech.

00:08:36.120 I thought I understood

00:08:37.100 freedom of speech

00:08:38.020 in the Attic Kingdom.

00:08:38.780 Ezra Levant

00:08:39.420 for the Rebel.media.

00:08:40.560 I'm standing outside

00:08:41.440 the Old Bailey

00:08:42.220 Central Criminal Courts

00:08:43.480 in London

00:08:43.940 shortly after

00:08:45.140 Tommy Robinson

00:08:45.980 was sentenced

00:08:47.700 to prison

00:08:49.120 for live-streaming

00:08:50.640 his political commentary

00:08:51.740 on Facebook

00:08:52.560 outside a rape gang

00:08:54.320 trial last year

00:08:55.980 in Leeds.

00:08:57.100 This has been

00:08:57.960 a very long procedure,

00:08:59.660 14 months

00:09:00.740 back and forth

00:09:01.480 in the courts.

00:09:02.500 Tommy has already served

00:09:03.680 10 weeks

00:09:04.280 in solitary confinement

00:09:05.540 before that original

00:09:06.820 conviction was quashed.

00:09:08.320 This was a retrial,

00:09:09.920 and yet he was convicted

00:09:10.980 again and sentenced again.

00:09:13.080 The long and the short

00:09:13.900 of it is

00:09:14.540 he was sentenced

00:09:15.440 to a maximum

00:09:16.180 of nine months

00:09:17.820 in prison.

00:09:18.560 They reactivated

00:09:19.560 an old

00:09:20.060 three-month

00:09:21.120 suspended sentence,

00:09:22.400 added to it

00:09:23.100 a new

00:09:23.520 six-month sentence,

00:09:24.960 and ordered

00:09:25.700 that they be served

00:09:26.460 consecutively

00:09:27.400 nine months

00:09:28.920 in prison

00:09:29.640 for citizen journalism.

00:09:31.800 But,

00:09:32.320 as I mentioned,

00:09:33.200 because he served

00:09:33.960 some time improperly,

00:09:35.780 he gets credit for that.

00:09:37.260 There's other

00:09:37.800 mathematics that apply.

00:09:39.500 So, in the end,

00:09:40.280 the effective sentence

00:09:41.240 will be

00:09:41.640 19 weeks

00:09:42.840 in prison,

00:09:44.100 and again,

00:09:44.620 because there's a rule

00:09:45.360 about early reliefs,

00:09:46.940 Tommy will be out

00:09:47.700 in nine and a half weeks.

00:09:49.020 So, after all the math,

00:09:50.780 Tommy Robinson

00:09:51.440 will be in prison

00:09:52.400 for 66 days.

00:09:55.820 For the Rebel.media,

00:09:56.880 I'm Ezra Levant.

00:09:57.780 I am in a car

00:09:58.780 driving from

00:10:00.060 Her Majesty's Prison,

00:10:01.320 Belmarsh,

00:10:02.320 to Paddington Train Station,

00:10:04.580 where I'll then get on

00:10:05.400 the train to Heathrow Airport

00:10:06.640 to go home to Canada.

00:10:07.900 So, I am in a rush,

00:10:09.400 which is why I'm filming

00:10:10.460 this in a car.

00:10:11.180 But I would like to take

00:10:12.300 this car ride

00:10:13.800 to tell you about

00:10:15.260 my prison visit

00:10:16.380 with Tommy Robinson.

00:10:18.160 He, as you know,

00:10:19.940 was sentenced

00:10:20.800 for contempt of court

00:10:22.120 to a nine-month

00:10:23.660 prison term,

00:10:24.340 and this is on top

00:10:25.240 of the time

00:10:26.260 he's already served.

00:10:27.120 Now, some of that time

00:10:28.360 served will be deducted

00:10:29.660 from this sentence,

00:10:30.340 so he'll wind up

00:10:31.020 being freed from prison

00:10:32.520 in mid-September,

00:10:33.380 but he has been put

00:10:34.500 in the harshest,

00:10:37.300 most maximum security

00:10:39.420 in London

00:10:40.260 for a non-criminal offense

00:10:42.800 of contempt of court.

00:10:43.540 By the way,

00:10:44.160 no British journalist

00:10:45.040 has been imprisoned

00:10:46.060 for contempt of court

00:10:46.860 in nearly a century.

00:10:48.160 So, the reason

00:10:49.440 I came to visit Tommy

00:10:50.480 is not just because

00:10:52.080 it's a good thing to do

00:10:52.900 to visit someone in prison,

00:10:54.500 but because I was

00:10:55.400 deeply concerned

00:10:56.360 that the prison authorities

00:10:58.140 would abuse Tommy

00:10:59.780 in the same manner

00:11:01.140 that they had abused him

00:11:02.480 at the prison

00:11:04.240 he was in last year,

00:11:06.800 HMP only.

00:11:08.020 Elements of that abuse

00:11:09.100 include putting him

00:11:10.900 in a small box,

00:11:12.480 solitary confinement,

00:11:13.720 with no human contact

00:11:14.860 for 23 and a half hours

00:11:16.160 a day,

00:11:16.380 no television,

00:11:17.000 and then the half hour

00:11:18.680 a day he was let out,

00:11:19.560 he was screamed at

00:11:20.800 by some of the Muslim

00:11:22.080 prison gangs

00:11:22.800 that were wishing him death.

00:11:23.780 He actually had

00:11:24.340 death threats

00:11:25.300 hand-delivered

00:11:26.080 to his cell door,

00:11:27.880 very specific death threats.

00:11:29.500 It was not just

00:11:30.720 physical abuse,

00:11:31.620 but the psychological abuse

00:11:33.000 of 10 weeks

00:11:34.080 in solitary confinement,

00:11:35.200 which is illegal,

00:11:36.120 by the way.

00:11:37.340 And finally,

00:11:38.200 there was the starvation element

00:11:39.660 because Tommy's food

00:11:41.460 was marked

00:11:42.340 Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

00:11:44.140 and hand-delivered

00:11:45.580 to his cell.

00:11:46.380 The Muslim prison gangs

00:11:47.920 that prepared it

00:11:48.940 could tamper with his food

00:11:50.840 in a way they couldn't

00:11:51.640 tamper with food

00:11:52.840 in the cafeteria-style line.

00:11:54.220 So there were various elements

00:11:55.940 of his torture last time,

00:11:57.120 and I use that word

00:11:57.960 on purpose

00:12:00.620 because it is

00:12:01.540 psychological and physical torture.

00:12:04.000 As evidence of that,

00:12:05.160 I point out that he lost

00:12:06.040 40 pounds in 10 weeks.

00:12:08.100 So that's why I visited

00:12:09.420 Belmarsh today.

00:12:11.140 And my immediate questions

00:12:13.640 were,

00:12:15.020 has he been mistreated

00:12:16.220 by either prisoners or staff?

00:12:18.540 Has he been starved?

00:12:20.320 Has he had any threats?

00:12:22.220 Has he been subjected

00:12:23.820 to physical or mental duress

00:12:26.020 of any sort?

00:12:27.160 And let me give you

00:12:27.840 the answers to those questions

00:12:29.140 and other answers

00:12:30.100 that I heard

00:12:30.600 in my approximately

00:12:32.140 one hour meeting

00:12:33.220 with Tommy today.

00:12:34.900 First of all,

00:12:35.820 Tommy is in a complete

00:12:37.620 isolation unit.

00:12:39.800 It's a form of

00:12:40.820 solitary confinement

00:12:41.800 in that he literally

00:12:43.440 has not seen

00:12:44.680 a single other prisoner

00:12:46.980 in his time at Belmarsh.

00:12:48.320 He just hasn't seen any.

00:12:50.040 And we were led

00:12:51.240 into a distinct part

00:12:53.780 of the prison

00:12:54.260 where there simply

00:12:54.960 was no one else.

00:12:56.720 There were so many

00:12:57.960 prison staff

00:12:59.080 who were working

00:13:00.580 on Tommy's file.

00:13:01.920 Tommy tells me that

00:13:02.820 even to unlock his door,

00:13:04.740 to take him from his cell

00:13:05.960 to the exercise bike,

00:13:07.500 from the exercise bike

00:13:08.620 to the weight room,

00:13:10.160 from the weight room

00:13:10.880 to the shower room,

00:13:12.460 two guards are assigned

00:13:13.800 to every one

00:13:14.580 of those steps.

00:13:15.260 It's a bizarre

00:13:17.120 handling unit.

00:13:20.060 I don't know

00:13:20.500 how many prison staff

00:13:22.760 are focused on Tommy,

00:13:24.140 but it's enormous.

00:13:25.200 It's not like HMP Onley

00:13:26.740 where they just threw him

00:13:27.540 in a hole

00:13:27.940 and said,

00:13:28.980 ha ha, see you in 10 weeks.

00:13:30.200 It's sort of the opposite.

00:13:31.500 I mean, he is in solitary

00:13:32.840 in that he has no other

00:13:34.440 contact with prisoners,

00:13:35.240 but he does have contact

00:13:36.200 with prison staff

00:13:37.080 and he tells me

00:13:38.740 that the governor

00:13:39.340 of the prison,

00:13:39.980 the warden as we call it

00:13:41.140 in North America,

00:13:42.880 actually visits him

00:13:44.020 every day,

00:13:44.880 even just for a moment,

00:13:45.760 just to say,

00:13:46.280 how's it going?

00:13:47.300 I thought that was

00:13:47.980 very interesting.

00:13:50.320 Not only is the warden

00:13:53.360 making himself available

00:13:54.420 to Tommy,

00:13:54.960 but he's inspecting

00:13:55.900 to make sure things

00:13:57.180 are well done.

00:13:57.680 I found that very interesting

00:13:59.120 and relieving.

00:14:00.980 And here he is now.

00:14:01.840 Yeah, the camera's

00:14:03.880 pointing this way.

00:14:04.580 They've been

00:14:04.900 very insistent

00:14:07.100 that I not.

00:14:07.680 Hey, Tommy.

00:14:08.120 Hey, thanks.

00:14:08.440 How you doing, mate?

00:14:08.940 Good to see you, man.

00:14:09.700 You all right?

00:14:10.100 I'm doing great.

00:14:10.940 Look at you.

00:14:11.700 I know, man.

00:14:12.240 First stop hairdressers, yeah?

00:14:13.440 I know.

00:14:14.160 Have your fun

00:14:14.760 with your memes.

00:14:17.060 Tommy, it's great to see you.

00:14:18.420 It's good to be seen.

00:14:19.580 You're in better health

00:14:20.680 than you were last time.

00:14:22.500 We visited you a few times.

00:14:23.700 Say a few words

00:14:24.520 to your supporters

00:14:25.920 who have been rooting for you

00:14:27.220 these past 66 days.

00:14:29.060 Yep.

00:14:29.280 I'd say it's been

00:14:30.880 I've enjoyed reading

00:14:34.080 the support

00:14:34.600 and hearing the support.

00:14:35.840 For me,

00:14:36.440 the main thing for this

00:14:37.260 would be an embarrassment

00:14:38.040 to the British government,

00:14:39.800 an embarrassment

00:14:40.240 to the judiciary.

00:14:41.940 In the judge's words,

00:14:43.040 so let's pretend

00:14:43.580 I did commit contempt to court,

00:14:44.680 which I didn't.

00:14:45.280 In her words,

00:14:45.920 it was unintentional.

00:14:47.160 So something that was unintentional,

00:14:49.060 something that was unintentional

00:14:50.160 that had zero effect

00:14:50.980 on a trial

00:14:51.420 would result in a man,

00:14:53.160 a journalist,

00:14:53.840 being put in prison

00:14:54.740 spending two and a half months

00:14:56.740 of soldier requirement

00:14:57.440 in orderly.

00:14:57.880 And this is the crazy thing.

00:15:00.080 I've walked into Belmarsh prison

00:15:01.420 and walked out

00:15:02.320 without seeing

00:15:03.200 another prisoner.

00:15:05.200 But in a way,

00:15:06.260 that was good

00:15:06.920 because in

00:15:07.880 Gronley,

00:15:09.360 they would have killed you

00:15:10.100 if they could.

00:15:10.640 No, they would have done.

00:15:11.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:12.040 Essentially,

00:15:12.600 the governor here has done

00:15:13.560 I don't have a negative word

00:15:15.880 to say about Belmarsh prison

00:15:16.920 or any of the stuff.

00:15:18.300 Other than the insanity

00:15:19.240 that you were in here

00:15:19.940 to begin with.

00:15:20.360 Other than the insanity

00:15:21.060 and by putting me

00:15:22.240 at the Old Bailey,

00:15:22.900 they knew they'd get me

00:15:23.600 in Belmarsh.

00:15:24.220 So then they can get me

00:15:25.200 on solitary,

00:15:25.660 on isolation.

00:15:26.840 Whereas if they

00:15:27.400 would have put it

00:15:28.500 in the second biggest

00:15:29.240 court in the land

00:15:29.800 which was Winchester,

00:15:30.860 I'd have gone to

00:15:31.460 the Kat B local

00:15:32.160 in Winchester.

00:15:33.060 I'd have been fine

00:15:33.680 because there's no Muslims

00:15:34.440 in the jail.

00:15:35.520 But essentially,

00:15:36.560 I know I look a mess

00:15:37.240 so have your fun with it.

00:15:38.600 And it's ginger

00:15:39.320 so I look like

00:15:40.200 a little cowardly convert

00:15:41.120 coming out of jail.

00:15:42.800 As-salamu alaykum.

00:15:44.900 Do you know,

00:15:45.420 it took 16 days

00:15:46.420 which is what I find quite fun.

00:15:48.580 The imams come

00:15:49.160 to see me each day.

00:15:49.980 The imams?

00:15:50.560 The imams every day.

00:15:51.300 Are they trying

00:15:51.760 to get you on site?

00:15:53.480 They weren't.

00:15:54.020 They were all nice.

00:15:55.140 And it took 16 days.

00:15:57.100 It took 16 days.

00:15:59.680 16 days before

00:16:00.920 a Christian come.

00:16:01.820 Really?

00:16:02.480 Every day.

00:16:03.080 And there are four

00:16:03.440 different imams

00:16:03.820 within the 16 days.

00:16:05.100 And then a Christian come.

00:16:06.440 And when he come,

00:16:06.920 I was just like,

00:16:07.820 holy cow.

00:16:08.320 There is a Christian imam.

00:16:09.060 Well, listen,

00:16:09.920 there are a few

00:16:11.660 other media

00:16:12.200 who came here.

00:16:13.740 What's your message

00:16:14.540 to the media?

00:16:15.280 I have to say

00:16:15.840 the mainstream media.

00:16:16.900 The Daily Mirror's here.

00:16:17.900 They were here early.

00:16:18.680 You read their lies?

00:16:19.380 Can we turn you around

00:16:19.840 to get you with a pack?

00:16:20.760 No, you can't.

00:16:21.320 I'm from the prison man.

00:16:22.120 That's true.

00:16:23.600 You read their lies?

00:16:24.940 You read their lies?

00:16:25.980 The Daily Mirror lied

00:16:27.020 saying I was attacked.

00:16:28.100 The Daily Mirror lied

00:16:29.140 saying I was attacked

00:16:29.720 in this prison.

00:16:30.220 You lied.

00:16:30.700 You lied to the public.

00:16:31.640 You made up an entire story

00:16:32.640 or you were part of the propaganda

00:16:34.300 that's pushed out.

00:16:35.440 My only message to them is

00:16:37.040 you're a disgrace

00:16:38.500 and embarrassment

00:16:39.020 because if this happened

00:16:39.760 to a journalist in Hong Kong,

00:16:41.040 if what's happened to me

00:16:41.980 happened to a journalist

00:16:42.660 in Russia, in China,

00:16:44.120 you'd all be up in arms.

00:16:45.320 But because I talk about Islam,

00:16:46.920 you're all silent.

00:16:47.800 You're all complicit

00:16:48.380 in the attack

00:16:49.420 on free speech

00:16:50.020 that we're witnessing.

00:16:50.660 You're all complicit

00:16:51.660 on what's happened

00:16:52.640 to our country.

00:16:53.260 All of the media are.

00:16:54.320 Well, it's a great point.

00:16:55.280 Right now, there's Venezuela.

00:16:57.080 I was found guilty

00:16:58.540 by an appointed judge.

00:16:59.780 By an appointed judge

00:17:00.740 two weeks before.

00:17:01.120 That's how the war works.

00:17:01.640 No, not by a jury.

00:17:02.780 Common law,

00:17:03.340 English common law,

00:17:04.040 says that if you can face

00:17:04.860 over six months in prison,

00:17:05.840 you get a jury.

00:17:06.800 I was not given a jury.

00:17:08.080 So you think you'd be not guilty

00:17:08.940 if it was a jury trial?

00:17:09.400 I know I'd have got found

00:17:10.220 not guilty

00:17:10.720 and so do they.

00:17:11.560 It's the only offence

00:17:13.180 in the whole entire country

00:17:14.380 that you can get taken

00:17:16.040 to prison for up to two years

00:17:17.540 without a jury.

00:17:18.560 Without a jury.

00:17:19.200 But that's how contempt works.

00:17:20.360 That's the law.

00:17:20.420 No, no, no.

00:17:20.780 That's not how English

00:17:21.500 common law works.

00:17:22.640 So that goes against

00:17:23.580 English common law.

00:17:24.720 And why was I at the Old Bailey?

00:17:26.100 You tell me as a journalist.

00:17:27.000 Why was I at the Old Bailey?

00:17:27.960 Thirteen murder trials

00:17:28.860 of me for holding my phone up

00:17:30.400 and I was convicted of...

00:17:31.820 You're not high profile, Tommy.

00:17:32.580 Because I'm high profile.

00:17:33.200 Well, that's why I'm at the Old Bailey.

00:17:34.200 Well, maybe it is.

00:17:34.760 What difference does that make?

00:17:35.900 Because they know you're going to have

00:17:36.840 all your fans are going to be there.

00:17:38.060 What difference does that make?

00:17:38.580 And they know that...

00:17:39.240 Because obviously

00:17:39.940 the security procedures

00:17:40.920 aren't the same

00:17:41.500 as the Old Bailey

00:17:42.060 as they are at other courts.

00:17:43.120 Well, I've been to 10 different courts

00:17:44.680 over the years.

00:17:45.860 They've never moved me to Old Bailey.

00:17:47.160 Your popularity has increased.

00:17:48.480 Like how popular you are.

00:17:49.220 I'm glad you recognise that.

00:17:50.900 Tommy, it's really weird.

00:17:51.420 It's because of your failures.

00:17:52.500 It's weird to have the media

00:17:54.080 debating with you.

00:17:55.640 Arguing, arguing.

00:17:56.120 Because they're not media.

00:17:57.800 They are not media.

00:17:58.740 They're not journalists

00:17:59.380 reporting stories.

00:18:00.340 I've never seen this before

00:18:02.060 that a journalist

00:18:03.400 is taking the role

00:18:04.860 of the prosecutor.

00:18:06.200 I mean, I like a good

00:18:07.260 prickly question myself.

00:18:08.700 But I've just...

00:18:09.140 I mean, of course

00:18:09.740 I've never seen this

00:18:10.340 except for...

00:18:10.860 It's our job to question people.

00:18:11.440 It's our job.

00:18:11.980 No, you're not questioning.

00:18:12.400 You're telling me.

00:18:13.020 You're telling me.

00:18:15.460 But at the same time...

00:18:17.820 Yeah.

00:18:18.240 Well, Tommy, I'll tell you what.

00:18:19.140 Let's...

00:18:19.360 Let's...

00:18:20.480 Let's get you a haircut.

00:18:23.420 Let's get you a hot meal.

00:18:24.440 Let's get you reunited

00:18:25.520 with your wife and kids.

00:18:28.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:28.300 Thank you, mate.

00:18:29.340 We're coming out.

00:18:30.100 Just before you leave.

00:18:31.240 Thanks so much, Greg.

00:18:32.120 So, um...

00:18:33.580 All right, Tommy.

00:18:35.440 Well, listen.

00:18:36.080 Let's get you cleaned up.

00:18:36.880 The sun, mate.

00:18:37.500 The sun.

00:18:37.880 You got a lot of...

00:18:38.640 You got a lot of friends and fans.

00:18:40.120 Give us one word about the mail.

00:18:41.700 I know that there was about a month

00:18:43.520 before you were able to get your...

00:18:44.960 Where is it?

00:18:45.340 Your mails.

00:18:46.160 Yeah, we'll be in that.

00:18:47.400 So there's like...

00:18:48.080 I think there's 14 sacks.

00:18:49.580 I've read...

00:18:49.980 14 sacks of mail?

00:18:51.200 I've read every single one of your messages.

00:18:53.480 Every single bit of your mail.

00:18:55.260 And it was emotional...

00:18:56.300 It was emotional for me.

00:18:58.300 To read the effect it has on people.

00:19:00.680 And it's also fulfilling to see

00:19:02.260 the amount of people that woke up

00:19:03.480 that were awakened

00:19:04.400 by what the British government have done

00:19:06.160 and what they're doing.

00:19:07.220 All right, let's take care of you, my friend.

00:19:08.560 Nice to see you.

00:19:09.100 I'm glad you're free.

00:19:09.860 Cheers.

00:19:10.400 Nice to be free.

00:19:10.760 Well, Tommy Robinson

00:19:11.880 Robinson was the highest-profile journalist

00:19:14.160 that we've helped free from prison,

00:19:16.160 but he wasn't the first.

00:19:17.920 That honour goes to Laura Loomer,

00:19:20.800 who worked with us briefly about three years ago.

00:19:24.380 Laura, as you may know,

00:19:25.680 is actually the nominated Republican candidate

00:19:28.740 for Congress in Florida.

00:19:30.980 In fact, the other day,

00:19:32.480 Donald Trump tweeted her,

00:19:33.860 and one of the Trump surrogates

00:19:35.740 was out campaigning with her.

00:19:36.960 She might actually become

00:19:38.420 the first rebel alumna

00:19:39.900 elected to Congress.

00:19:42.200 Well, Laura's a bit of a troublemaker,

00:19:44.020 which is why we like her.

00:19:45.320 And she went down to a play in New York City

00:19:48.340 where, in that New York way,

00:19:51.600 it was Julius Caesar, if I recall,

00:19:53.920 and they replaced the murdered Caesar

00:19:57.000 with a Donald Trump lookalike,

00:19:59.800 and the apex of the show

00:20:01.840 was to murder Trump.

00:20:05.020 Well, Laura Loomer was arrested

00:20:07.300 for heckling that

00:20:09.000 and going down to the stage

00:20:10.260 and objecting.

00:20:11.800 We bailed her out.

00:20:13.140 Take a look at this.

00:20:13.900 Political violence against the right.

00:20:16.720 This is unacceptable.

00:20:18.120 You cannot...

00:20:19.060 Get on the stage!

00:20:20.120 All right.

00:20:20.880 Ladies and gentlemen,

00:20:21.900 we're going to pause.

00:20:22.960 We're going to pause.

00:20:23.960 Security.

00:20:25.000 This is violence against the right.

00:20:26.300 Security, please.

00:20:27.200 This is terrible.

00:20:54.080 You are all...

00:20:55.580 Stop the normalization

00:21:01.580 of political violence

00:21:24.700 against the right.

00:21:26.360 Shame on the New York City

00:21:27.840 public theater

00:21:28.740 for promoting violence

00:21:30.400 against Donald Trump.

00:21:35.700 Let's go.

00:21:36.700 Let's go.

00:21:40.700 shame on all of you for normalizing

00:21:51.880 political violence

00:21:53.240 against Donald Trump.

00:21:55.420 You guys are just as bad as ISIS.

00:21:58.620 All of you.

00:21:59.840 CNN is ISIS.

00:22:01.520 The New York Public Theater

00:22:02.700 is ISIS.

00:22:03.400 shame on all of you.

00:22:10.720 They don't support people like you.

00:22:12.360 There's a lot of people like you.

00:22:13.460 They don't support the police,

00:22:17.080 the NYPD.

00:22:18.100 They want to kill you guys

00:22:19.600 just like they want to kill Donald Trump.

00:22:22.860 I just want to voice...

00:22:24.120 Shame on all of you!

00:22:25.680 I just want to voice my support

00:22:26.940 for what you did.

00:22:27.980 Thank you.

00:22:28.480 Shame on the New York City

00:22:33.120 public theater!

00:22:34.160 You are totally right.

00:22:41.420 I support you.

00:22:43.360 Thank you.

00:22:47.060 That's right.

00:22:49.140 So we just got kicked out

00:22:50.460 and as you can see

00:22:52.460 they called the police.

00:22:53.420 You guys, just don't mind.

00:22:53.560 Should we just keep going, please?

00:22:54.560 Why do I need to exit the property?

00:22:56.000 Because you got to...

00:22:56.700 You can get called for trespass before you did.

00:22:58.460 We don't want to do that.

00:22:59.260 Okay.

00:22:59.440 But they're actually promoting

00:23:03.980 an assassination

00:23:04.720 against Donald Trump in there.

00:23:06.300 How come you guys

00:23:06.940 don't want to shut down

00:23:07.840 this disgusting act?

00:23:10.560 How come you don't want

00:23:11.400 to shut it down?

00:23:12.080 Do you guys promote

00:23:12.980 the assassination of Donald Trump?

00:23:15.220 Do you guys want

00:23:16.200 Donald Trump to be assassinated?

00:23:19.740 Shame on all of you!

00:23:20.880 Because of liberal violence like this,

00:23:23.460 a congressman this week

00:23:26.840 was shot in Virginia.

00:23:29.440 Congressman Scalise,

00:23:31.020 because of people like you

00:23:32.460 who support violence

00:23:33.920 against the right,

00:23:35.240 violence against Republicans,

00:23:37.480 shame on all of you!

00:23:40.000 Shame!

00:23:40.940 She has a right to speak.

00:23:42.040 Yes, but she could have...

00:23:42.760 Shame on all of you!

00:23:43.620 But she's outside.

00:23:45.360 They literally stabbed a guy

00:23:46.980 that looks like Donald Trump

00:23:48.260 and none of you are doing anything!

00:23:50.820 She's really speaking.

00:23:51.780 What is it going to take

00:23:52.800 for you to wake up

00:23:53.840 and realize that we can't have

00:23:55.800 this type of violence

00:23:56.940 here in America?

00:23:58.380 Stop!

00:23:59.680 Stop!

00:24:00.180 Stop!

00:24:00.680 Stop!

00:24:01.180 Stop!

00:24:01.480 Ma'am!

00:24:01.980 Do you support...

00:24:03.780 Do you support the normalization

00:24:05.460 of political violence

00:24:06.360 here in America?

00:24:06.920 Why not?

00:24:08.920 These are the people

00:24:09.660 who want to kill you.

00:24:10.480 These are the people

00:24:11.180 who are in the streets

00:24:11.960 that say blue lives don't matter.

00:24:14.180 These are the people

00:24:15.080 who join forces

00:24:15.880 with terrorist organizations

00:24:17.020 like Black Lives Matter

00:24:18.120 and they shoot police officers

00:24:19.800 because you guys...

00:24:21.320 I mean, a lot of police officers

00:24:22.560 align with the right

00:24:23.380 because the right,

00:24:24.140 unlike the left,

00:24:24.940 actually supports blue lives

00:24:26.460 and actually respects law enforcement.

00:24:28.560 Okay?

00:24:30.120 So you're choosing

00:24:30.920 to align yourself

00:24:31.840 with terrorists.

00:24:33.060 Actual terrorists.

00:24:34.260 Just today,

00:24:35.060 you had people like

00:24:36.320 refuse fascism

00:24:37.520 and members of Antifa

00:24:38.580 standing outside here

00:24:40.200 in front of the theater

00:24:41.180 with their signs

00:24:42.400 talking about how much

00:24:43.760 they hate Trump

00:24:44.420 and I'm not allowed...

00:24:45.460 I'm not allowed

00:24:46.360 to...

00:24:46.860 I'm not allowed

00:24:47.640 to go over here

00:24:48.720 and speak about

00:24:49.620 what is right.

00:24:51.060 Right?

00:24:51.460 Condemning violence

00:24:52.360 against the right

00:24:53.180 condemning

00:24:54.400 the normalization

00:24:55.440 of political violence.

00:24:58.200 I can't do that

00:24:59.420 but then you can have

00:25:00.740 people...

00:25:01.820 Put the phone down?

00:25:04.180 Okay, I'm doing it.

00:25:06.900 Let me close it.

00:25:10.080 Well, I guess I'm being arrested.

00:25:11.840 Yeah, you can't jump up

00:25:12.780 on the stage here.

00:25:14.760 They're actually promoting...

00:25:16.020 I'll put it away.

00:25:16.640 I'll put it away.

00:25:18.240 Okay, guys.

00:25:19.200 I'm getting arrested by the police.

00:25:20.360 Call Ezra Levant.

00:25:23.840 Call Charles Johnson.

00:25:25.520 Call Mike Cernovich.

00:25:26.660 Man, pop together.

00:25:27.460 I'm putting my palms together.

00:25:29.020 I'm not resisting.

00:25:30.200 No, you're not.

00:25:32.280 I'm like the left.

00:25:33.300 I'm not resisting.

00:25:34.200 All right.

00:25:34.540 Appreciate it.

00:25:35.180 Thanks.

00:25:35.640 Thanks.

00:25:40.180 Franklin, you got this?

00:25:41.980 Yes.

00:25:45.580 Where?

00:25:46.020 Which...

00:25:46.540 I'm under or not?

00:25:50.360 Okay.

00:25:51.780 Call Charles Johnson.

00:25:53.280 Call Mike Cernovich.

00:25:54.320 Call Alex Jones.

00:25:55.220 Call him for Levant.

00:25:56.740 Is she being charged

00:25:57.640 or is this just a detention?

00:25:58.740 Yeah.

00:25:58.960 Am I being detained

00:25:59.780 or am I being charged?

00:26:00.820 I'm being charged.

00:26:02.340 So charged.

00:26:03.420 With what?

00:26:04.620 With what?

00:26:04.900 Okay.

00:26:04.960 Okay.

00:26:07.740 Okay.

00:26:08.300 Okay.

00:26:08.900 Still rolling?

00:26:24.660 Yes.

00:26:24.940 Yeah.

00:26:25.320 Can I come off a little bit?

00:26:27.500 Just a little bit.

00:26:28.180 Just give it a little.

00:26:30.760 When they put me in,

00:26:32.280 I guess you can just stop the broadcast.

00:26:33.680 Cash, just follow this, you know?

00:26:34.920 Okay.

00:26:35.420 Okay.

00:26:38.820 I'm in New York City,

00:26:40.020 so if anyone wants to come,

00:26:42.120 report me.

00:26:45.360 I'm here in New York.

00:26:46.220 Okay.

00:26:47.020 Okay.

00:26:47.960 Jack Posobiec here.

00:27:00.140 He's documenting everything, too.

00:27:05.040 Jack.

00:27:07.020 Okay.

00:27:07.740 Sorry.

00:27:10.940 I just find it incredible

00:27:12.240 how someone can actually

00:27:13.760 stab something

00:27:15.360 that looks exactly like Donald Trump

00:27:16.920 and they're pretty much

00:27:18.560 promoting an assassination attempt.

00:27:20.100 Here in New York,

00:27:21.060 people are really crazy.

00:27:22.220 You know,

00:27:22.440 there have been bomb threats

00:27:23.840 at Trump Tower.

00:27:24.620 People have threatened.

00:27:25.700 There's been over 12,000 threats

00:27:27.680 on Twitter

00:27:28.180 calling for Donald Trump's assassination.

00:27:30.560 But I can't condemn

00:27:32.240 the normalization

00:27:33.420 of political violence here

00:27:34.640 against the right

00:27:35.500 without getting arrested.

00:27:37.240 Some America we're living in.

00:27:42.240 You know,

00:27:42.800 I'm speaking out

00:27:43.400 because I care about Donald Trump.

00:27:45.020 I care about making America great again.

00:27:46.700 I care about journalism.

00:27:50.120 I care about activism.

00:27:51.800 You know,

00:27:52.040 I care about speaking out

00:27:53.360 for what's right.

00:27:55.060 For Sandra Fairbanks.

00:27:56.120 Hi, Donald Trump Jr.

00:27:57.440 I saw your tweet

00:27:58.580 about Julius Caesar

00:28:00.500 and it inspired me

00:28:02.140 to come out here today

00:28:03.200 and stand up

00:28:04.160 for your father

00:28:04.740 and your family

00:28:05.520 and condemn

00:28:06.740 the normalization

00:28:07.800 of political violence

00:28:08.820 against the left.

00:28:10.080 But I'm being arrested.

00:28:11.560 So.

00:28:12.920 Laura is a troublemaker,

00:28:14.820 which is why I like her

00:28:16.220 and why I have

00:28:16.960 so many gray hairs.

00:28:18.280 And I can only imagine

00:28:19.580 what she'll do to Congress

00:28:20.740 if she is elected.

00:28:22.140 And by the way,

00:28:23.280 the district she's running in,

00:28:25.220 she's got a chance.

00:28:27.640 Well,

00:28:28.380 more recently,

00:28:29.300 when the Black Lives Matter

00:28:30.840 protests started

00:28:32.040 in Washington, D.C.

00:28:33.720 and other places,

00:28:34.560 before they truly got violent,

00:28:36.760 we embedded a new reporter

00:28:39.940 named Anna Slantz.

00:28:41.960 And we like to send bodyguards

00:28:43.940 with reporters

00:28:45.000 if they're in a dangerous place.

00:28:46.160 But Anna wanted to go in low key.

00:28:48.720 She sort of blends in

00:28:50.440 with the left.

00:28:51.760 She is a woman of the left.

00:28:53.500 And she was doing

00:28:54.140 very interesting reporting

00:28:55.220 from the ground

00:28:55.820 until a whole bunch of people

00:28:58.240 were swept up at once

00:28:59.580 and thrown in jail

00:29:00.800 despite Anna saying,

00:29:02.380 no, I'm not a writer.

00:29:03.620 I'm not a protester.

00:29:04.640 I'm just a journalist.

00:29:05.840 They threw her in the clink anyways.

00:29:08.980 And given the COVID

00:29:10.160 lockdown restrictions,

00:29:11.460 it actually took us days

00:29:13.140 to get her out.

00:29:14.620 Here's how we did that

00:29:16.040 and the lawyers we hired to do it.

00:29:30.100 So, yeah, curfew did set in

00:29:31.960 more than an hour ago.

00:29:34.140 I'm not sure of the time

00:29:35.180 right now

00:29:36.280 and they don't appear

00:29:37.980 to be attempting

00:29:38.680 to enforce it

00:29:39.560 in any way.

00:29:40.740 No one has been arrested.

00:29:41.680 No.

00:29:48.580 Yeah.

00:29:49.380 Go, go, go, go.

00:29:50.920 Go, go, go.

00:29:52.560 Go, go, go.

00:29:57.780 Go, go, go.

00:29:59.600 ok

00:30:25.600 Okay, the police aren't really attempting to enforce any kind of a curfew.

00:30:34.660 I mean, there would be no way.

00:30:35.840 There's probably, I would say, still over a thousand protesters in this line.

00:30:41.520 And there's maybe two dozen, two dozen police for this protest line.

00:30:47.960 And this is one of a few that are going on across the city.

00:30:51.280 And earlier today, apparently the police chief from NYPD did state that they were losing control.

00:31:02.500 And you get a sense of that because there's really no attempt to enforce anything, no attempt to block anything off.

00:31:10.080 It's just sort of a free-for-all out here.

00:31:21.280 Thank you.

00:31:51.280 Thank you.

00:32:21.280 All right, guys.

00:32:29.740 I'm going to get off of live for now.

00:32:31.420 And I'm going to keep posting videos as I have them available.

00:32:35.040 The night is really just beginning.

00:32:36.500 So, please do keep an eye on my Twitter feed, on Rebel News' Twitter feed.

00:32:42.840 And later visit the StopAntifa.com for all of the coverage and commentary.

00:32:50.220 So, very quick background.

00:33:04.940 We have a new reporter named Anna Slats.

00:33:07.440 She does great work, great investigative journalist.

00:33:10.200 She's based in Atlantic Canada.

00:33:12.540 And on the weekend, I talked to her and she said, I want to go cover the protests and the riots in the United States.

00:33:19.580 And Anna is interested in social justice.

00:33:23.040 I would even say she's left of center.

00:33:25.340 But she has a great sensibility to her.

00:33:27.540 And I got to know her a little bit over the Jonathan Yaniv issues.

00:33:30.100 And so, I was delighted when she agreed to write for us.

00:33:33.200 And I thought she's a perfect fit to go and cover the Black Lives Matter protests, the peaceful protests, but also the Antifa riots.

00:33:41.300 So, she went to Washington, D.C. and did amazing frontline coverage for two days.

00:33:46.620 You can see, like, she was right in the middle of it.

00:33:49.700 And we offered her serious security, but she declined it, saying she can move more quickly and quietly without a big lug next to her.

00:34:03.060 And she was right.

00:34:04.720 And thanks, David, but don't go away.

00:34:07.380 So, she did great journalism for two days in Washington, D.C.

00:34:12.560 And then, when things tamped down there a bit, she said, well, let's go to New York City.

00:34:17.500 And, again, great news sense on her part.

00:34:20.340 New York is the epicenter of the protests and, more importantly, the riots.

00:34:24.500 So, last night, she was doing her thing, outstanding journalism on the street.

00:34:29.040 And then, a whole group of people were swept up by police and arrested immediately for what?

00:34:35.480 For breaking the curfew.

00:34:37.380 But the thing is, the curfew has a specific exemption for journalists.

00:34:42.580 And, of course, Anna was there as a journalist.

00:34:44.320 She is a journalist.

00:34:45.920 The police had no time for details like that.

00:34:49.960 I suppose they were just in sweep everybody up mode.

00:34:52.680 They took her to the police station.

00:34:54.060 And she had one extremely brief phone call with me.

00:34:57.700 She just said, I've been arrested for breaking the curfew despite the exemption.

00:35:01.200 I'm at the Brooklyn Central Booking Station.

00:35:03.740 And the officer is named Officer So-and-so.

00:35:05.960 I won't say his name here.

00:35:07.040 And then the cops took her phone away.

00:35:08.760 And that was the last I heard of her.

00:35:09.860 I immediately phoned our on-the-ground New York criminal lawyer who called me back right

00:35:17.380 away, got right on the file, called the cop shop, had an officer go and try and find her

00:35:22.940 to no avail.

00:35:25.040 And I do believe that, given how many hundreds of people were swept up all at once.

00:35:29.060 But I was told that she would normally, in the course of events, be released within a

00:35:32.480 couple of hours.

00:35:33.380 And it was just a summon.

00:35:34.580 And so it's not like a big, fancy bail hearing or anything.

00:35:37.420 I don't even know if there's bail in New York anymore.

00:35:39.500 So I sent a text and an email to Anna's phone, knowing she would get that when she was released,

00:35:45.040 saying, let me know when you're out.

00:35:46.500 Looks like everything's in hand.

00:35:48.260 And I just sort of, I guess I fell asleep around three or four.

00:35:51.200 And I woke up with a start at 7 a.m. and realized that she hadn't called.

00:35:55.100 She was still in the clink.

00:35:56.760 So I, we literally retained two more law firms, which is sort of what we do whenever

00:36:04.200 and sort of our go-to move.

00:36:05.860 So we have a New York criminal law firm and we got a Toronto firm on the works and they

00:36:09.920 hired a second New York firm.

00:36:13.100 And let me just tell you what they've done.

00:36:14.980 So I'm giving you a quick update.

00:36:17.320 We've got the Canadian consulate in New York City on the file.

00:36:20.180 And they have made contact and are advocating on behalf of Anna, who's a Canadian citizen.

00:36:26.920 So I'm amazed and delighted with how quickly the New York, the Canadian diplomats in New

00:36:33.400 York are working for Anna's behalf.

00:36:35.300 That's frankly amazing.

00:36:37.120 And that's great.

00:36:38.420 While that track goes, we have another lawyer and I'm going to read an email I received from

00:36:45.220 him.

00:36:45.340 So this is New York criminal lawyer number two.

00:36:50.180 And who has filed an appearance, let me read the email, that I received.

00:36:59.760 So there's so much going on.

00:37:03.360 So this is by one of our lawyers.

00:37:05.620 I'm not going to say his name, but he is a New York law firm based in Brooklyn, actually.

00:37:12.500 Under normal circumstances, when a person is arrested, until they come before a judge can

00:37:17.200 take up to 24 hours.

00:37:18.440 I have regularly been able to get clients to arraignment, the first court appearance,

00:37:23.040 significantly quicker.

00:37:24.620 We are currently not dealing with normal circumstances.

00:37:27.320 Given the pandemic, the courts are still physically closed to the public, including attorneys.

00:37:32.700 Court appearances for arraignments are being done remotely and virtually via Skype.

00:37:37.160 Additionally, due to the amount of arrests that occurred recently in Manhattan, you can

00:37:40.660 imagine that the system is somewhat burdened.

00:37:42.400 I have already notified the court that Anna is represented by counsel, and I have submitted

00:37:46.600 my notice of appearance to the court.

00:37:48.400 I do not yet know what time the arraignment will take place.

00:37:51.720 They will notify me.

00:37:53.000 I will also be checking in with the clerks regularly.

00:37:56.100 I will keep you posted as things develop, and I learn new information.

00:37:59.800 As always, if you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out, yada, yada, yada.

00:38:02.620 So that's criminal lawyer number two, based right there in Brooklyn, on the file, filing

00:38:10.240 a notice of appearance, but he's explaining the facts on the ground.

00:38:14.360 They actually have a physically closed court.

00:38:17.480 I have nonetheless asked for a lawyer to be either at the police station or immediately outside, because

00:38:31.500 it's important to me that if Anna is released, that she be met by someone immediately, even

00:38:41.160 if it's a stranger with holding up a sign saying, Anna.

00:38:44.200 So, as you know, this morning I dispatched Yankee Pollock, a friend of mine, a friend

00:38:49.220 of Anna's, who's in Montreal, and we looked at the different travel arrangements, and driving

00:38:54.880 down from Montreal to New York was actually the quickest.

00:38:57.820 He left immediately.

00:38:59.100 He left around 9.30 in the morning.

00:39:03.020 So I expect he will be in Brooklyn in three hours.

00:39:07.160 We have a massive legal brigade fighting to get Anna out of jail, and it is being quarterback

00:39:14.140 here in Canada by our old friend Aaron Rosenberg, who you'll remember from our free speech

00:39:20.760 battles, and he joins me now via Skype.

00:39:22.980 Aaron, great to see you again.

00:39:24.960 So nice to see you.

00:39:25.600 Thanks, Ezra.

00:39:26.140 Well, you have been working on this since moments after I got the phone call last night at just

00:39:33.520 before midnight.

00:39:34.380 I got the one-minute call from Anna Slats.

00:39:37.200 I immediately wrote to our first New York criminal lawyer, who we had worked with before, and

00:39:43.340 I copied you because you're sort of helping us get through all our legal battles.

00:39:47.720 And you have since then increased our firepower on the ground with other lawyers, lawyers who

00:39:55.520 are making appearances, lawyers who are standing by.

00:39:58.280 We've got a bit of a legal dream team trying to get Anna out of jail, don't we?

00:40:03.520 That's right.

00:40:04.320 I mean, this is an unprecedented amount of firepower to be throwing at the situation.

00:40:11.400 I don't think anything more can be done that's already been done right now.

00:40:16.280 We've got amazing people on the ground, just highly credentialed.

00:40:22.280 They are fighting every step of the way, and they are doing everything in their power to

00:40:28.520 get Anna out of this terrible situation.

00:40:32.400 And I'm just so proud of the people, the team that we've assembled, and the amount of firepower

00:40:37.080 that's going into this.

00:40:38.640 I just think it's absolutely so critical that we get her out of the situation as quickly as

00:40:44.860 possible.

00:40:45.420 And I am just so honored to play even a small role in this.

00:40:50.300 I jumped out of bed, and I was ready to take the next flight to New York.

00:40:54.900 Of course, I had the same quarantine issues as yourself.

00:40:57.520 But I'm just so thrilled with who's down there, and I'm very proud of the situation.

00:41:02.460 Well, in addition to assembling the lawyers, and I thank you for putting together, we've

00:41:07.480 got three lawyers now in New York.

00:41:09.260 I had one from before, and you've added two, including Michael Weinstock, who we just interviewed

00:41:15.600 outside the courthouse.

00:41:16.460 He seems like a very nice man and a great patriot, too.

00:41:20.300 And you've also did something that I didn't think of doing.

00:41:24.580 You and your colleague, David, who's working with us on so many free speech battles, contacted

00:41:29.720 the Canadian consulate in New York City.

00:41:33.340 I just wouldn't have thought of that.

00:41:35.460 And they responded very quickly, didn't they?

00:41:38.740 That's right.

00:41:39.580 You know, they connected us to a specified agent who specializes in arrest and attention

00:41:45.520 of Canadian citizens in New York City.

00:41:48.740 So it's exactly the people we want to be talking to.

00:41:51.980 And they were so helpful.

00:41:53.780 They facilitated finding out where Anna was, which was probably the most important question

00:41:59.800 that was unanswered at that time.

00:42:02.320 So once we found out where she was, we could actually go to the location, send our fighting

00:42:08.260 force over there and stand out there and demand that she be released.

00:42:13.220 So that was such critical information.

00:42:15.020 We've been in contact with the consulate now since the morning.

00:42:18.420 They've been very helpful checking in.

00:42:20.680 And they're very interested in this fight.

00:42:24.100 They want to keep fighting for us.

00:42:25.700 And that's just a fuse.

00:42:27.740 We've got the legal team down there.

00:42:29.860 We've got the Canadian embassy in New York City working on this.

00:42:33.180 And we're getting many more phone calls from support teams across the country and in New

00:42:41.880 York itself with people just trying to figure out how can we lend a hand?

00:42:46.640 How can we help?

00:42:47.640 And it's just the outpouring of support for Anna and for Rebel for this cause is so important.

00:42:53.640 And, you know, we cannot leave a man behind.

00:42:57.800 This is such an incredibly important free speech battle.

00:43:03.000 It's clear that there's an exemption for journalists on the ground after the curfew.

00:43:09.040 Anna was exercising in America her First Amendment right, what we would call free expression.

00:43:14.280 It's so critical.

00:43:15.280 If we're going to fight battles about free expression and freedom of the press, this is

00:43:19.420 the type of battle we have to be fighting.

00:43:21.060 I mean, it's shameful that she was rounded up.

00:43:23.700 And as I said before, and I'll say again, we're not going to leave a man behind.

00:43:27.340 We're not going to leave this woman behind.

00:43:29.100 We're going to fight tooth and nail.

00:43:30.680 And we're just working our way to get her release as quickly as possible.

00:43:35.220 Hi, everybody.

00:43:35.900 It's Anna Slotz.

00:43:36.880 And I am in New York City, where some dramatic events have unfolded over the last 24 hours,

00:43:43.060 as some of you may have heard.

00:43:45.220 I was here in New York City trying to get some great footage and some great context for

00:43:51.920 the Antifa riots and George Floyd protests that have been racking many U.S. cities.

00:43:59.120 As many of you know, I was in Washington, D.C. just before this.

00:44:04.280 I was sent out by Rebel News just to get the real story and to see what was happening on

00:44:09.400 the ground.

00:44:10.200 Unfortunately, my plans were stifled, to say the least.

00:44:13.460 After a short period of time covering the protests and even a little bit of the looting

00:44:18.320 and destruction that happened here on the 2nd, I was arrested by NYPD.

00:44:24.180 And I was arrested largely for filming them while they were taking down innocent bystanders

00:44:31.740 who were just in the scene of the looting while letting the looters go and run free.

00:44:37.860 I started the evening by marching with the Black Lives Matter protesters who had assembled.

00:44:45.940 The protest was largely peaceful.

00:44:49.140 When we got to Union Square, there was well over 2,000 people involved in the marching demonstration.

00:44:56.900 No property had been destroyed.

00:44:58.980 Nothing of that sort had taken place.

00:45:01.220 But I got to witness a few interesting interactions that happened in Union Square between Black Lives

00:45:06.500 Matter protesters.

00:45:08.220 While some Black Lives Matter protesters were out there with their megaphones condemning any

00:45:13.520 looting or destruction and requesting their fellow marchers not to promote or engage in

00:45:19.320 that, some other Black Lives Matter protesters were suggesting that it was in fact a form of

00:45:24.540 reparations and that they should be allowed to loot and pillage and destroy as much as

00:45:29.720 they wanted to.

00:45:30.980 If someone goes and loot something, that's what's promised to them.

00:45:34.240 We've taken our own shit!

00:45:35.520 From the first half of the Civil War.

00:45:36.660 So we need to stop this whole bull**** about all we need to be peaceful.

00:45:41.600 We need to be peaceful.

00:45:42.160 We need to be peaceful.

00:45:42.460 We need to be peaceful.

00:45:42.740 We need to be peaceful.

00:45:43.360 We need to be peaceful.

00:45:43.780 We need to be peaceful.

00:45:44.280 We need to be peaceful.

00:45:44.780 No, no, no, no, no.

00:45:45.780 No, no, no, no.

00:45:46.060 Later on in the evening, there was a very interesting interaction I was witness to, but unfortunately

00:45:50.920 could not get on my recordings.

00:45:53.180 And that was between a young man who was involved in the march and some of the march's leaders.

00:46:00.560 This young man was trying to discourage the marching line from heading up certain streets

00:46:06.020 because he informed us that there were looters waiting in the dark and shady spots of those

00:46:13.300 streets for the marching line to converge upon where they were so that the looting could

00:46:19.380 begin.

00:46:23.180 The looters had managed to actually rip down the plywood guard for the doors.

00:46:29.540 As they were coming out, some were actually just throwing the clothes up into the air,

00:46:33.080 just igniting even more chaos as people rushed to go and grab whatever they were throwing

00:46:37.060 and dropping.

00:46:38.060 One Black Lives Matter protester who was furious that anyone was looting the Zara, began to

00:46:43.640 get into physical altercations with the looters.

00:46:47.180 If you're here to protest police brutality, you will stop these looters.

00:46:52.180 You will stop these looters right here.

00:46:55.540 You will stand up to this guy and for credit.

00:46:58.540 I will move.

00:46:59.540 Jesus.

00:47:00.540 Oh, you ****.

00:47:01.900 You ****.

00:47:02.900 You ****.

00:47:03.900 You ****.

00:47:04.900 You're not a Black ally.

00:47:06.900 You're not an ally.

00:47:08.440 You're not an ally.

00:47:09.440 You're not an ally.

00:47:11.800 You're not an ally.

00:47:12.800 You're a ally.

00:47:13.800 You're not an ally.

00:47:14.800 You're not an ally to theounce.

00:47:15.800 But rather than going for the looters, the people who obviously had handfuls of clothes, big backpacks full of merchandise that they had taken from the Zara, or even people who were coming out of the Zara in the broken glass entrance, they began just arresting random bystanders.

00:47:36.100 People, perhaps, who they knew would not resist arrest, would not try to run, make their life a little bit easier.

00:47:43.960 Oh my god. So the police are arresting. The police are just arresting somebody.

00:47:49.440 I recorded one man who absolutely had nothing to do with the looting, brutally tackled to the ground, and NYPD shoved his face into the pavement while attempting to arrest him.

00:48:00.940 Shortly after that, a swarm of NYPD began to brutally call out anybody who was even remotely close to the Zara, whether or not they had poor intentions or not, threatening to arrest all of them.

00:48:11.880 I became a target for the NYPD.

00:48:15.220 While I was holding up my press pass, clearly showing it and yelling out, I am media, to all of the NYPD officers who looked my direction, I began to be brutally shoved around with a baton to my chest, telling me to go home, that I was past curfew, that I was breaking the curfew that exists here in New York, one that goes into play at around 8pm every night.

00:48:40.360 However, media is exempt from the curfew, just like essential workers, such as those in health care or grocery or transportation.

00:48:49.840 So I was yelling, media is exempt from the curfew.

00:48:53.320 It's not exactly something I should have had to say to the NYPD, as they should know the laws that they are enforcing.

00:48:58.660 After I took a baton to the chest, an NYPD officer grabbed me by the throat and threw me into the middle of the intersection.

00:49:09.300 Media is exempted! Media is exempted!

00:49:12.300 After stumbling my way to the next sidewalk on the parallel street, I was accosted by a police officer and a white-shirted lieutenant, who then demanded that I be arrested.

00:49:28.380 Media is exempted! The mayor! The mayor said media is exempted!

00:49:32.120 Media is exempted!

00:49:33.120 Media is exempted!

00:49:34.120 Media is exempted!

00:49:35.120 Media is exempted!

00:49:36.120 Media is exempted!

00:49:37.120 Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop!

00:49:39.120 They then took me to Brooklyn Central Processing, where they put me in a cell that was maybe very generously measured at 5 feet by 16 feet, and there were 20 other women in the cell with me.

00:49:54.120 feet and there were 20 other women in the cell with me we were literally back to chest and these

00:50:02.920 women were in tremendous amounts of pain some of them had injuries some of them had their cuffs

00:50:10.920 sewn so tight that their hands were bleeding some of them had you know big swollen fingers because

00:50:17.640 they'd been wearing their zip ties or their metal cuffs for hours and hours and hours it included

00:50:23.480 two health care aids who had been arrested while caring for their client their patient it was a

00:50:33.640 woman with lupus who had a catheter in her chest for another condition and they told me how their

00:50:43.400 patient had literally been begging the nypd not to arrest them because she needed help with her

00:50:50.840 catheter and with her medications and so on they arrested these two girls for being out past

00:50:55.880 curfew and they charged them with burglary there was a 12 year old boy in the male cell that was

00:51:03.240 directly beside the female cell measured exactly the same perhaps with even more bodies in it

00:51:09.560 he was 12 a 12 year old boy and he looked 12. he was so short and tiny with such big eyes

00:51:19.000 i'll never forget how scared he looked at around 3 30 a.m i was transferred from brooklyn central

00:51:25.080 processing to manhattan central processing where i got to experience yet another booking

00:51:33.480 this time one that included a full search of my person in a pretty degrading way

00:51:39.880 and i was put in a cell that was you know very similar in condition to the one that i experienced in

00:51:46.280 brooklyn it was overcrowded when i got in there it made nine women that had to share those three

00:51:52.920 metal benches to try to get some semblance of sleep of course i never slept well in manhattan they

00:52:00.280 refused to give people phone calls there were a few women that i shared a cell with who routinely broke

00:52:09.000 down thinking about how they weren't able to contact their families

00:52:11.400 and when they told me how long that they had been in that cell i was in shock some of those women had

00:52:20.920 been in there including a pregnant woman had been in there for seven days

00:52:28.040 i actually started to lose hope at one point that i would ever be released because what was supposed to

00:52:34.360 be a very quick processing where i had my charge and i spoke to a judge and it would get ultimately

00:52:41.560 dismissed turned into a fear that i would be forgotten like the rest of those women were

00:52:49.640 the rest of those women who by and large after speaking to so many of them had never been involved

00:52:55.240 in the protest or the looting and were just standards by that the nypd just happened to be able to grab

00:53:01.640 these were just anybody they could grab anybody at arm's reach who would comply and who would

00:53:07.480 disappear through the system after i was released from manhattan central processing i was actually

00:53:13.640 greeted by some strange bedfellows the national lawyers guild which is a pretty infamous group charity

00:53:23.880 that mostly handles antifa legal support was actually waiting for me outside the back entrance of

00:53:29.400 the prison that they snuck me out of they said oh you're anna slats yes i am they very kindly drove me

00:53:39.160 to brooklyn where my items were still in holding i'm not going to stop covering riots or marches i'm not

00:53:49.000 deterred by what the nypd did to me i am emboldened i am strengthened and i will continue

00:53:59.640 to do what it is i feel like i do best and that is get right to the heart of the action

00:54:04.440 and show you what is happening on the ground wherever you want to see it but i want to thank

00:54:08.680 you all for showing me such a tremendous amount of support during a really desperate and scary moment

00:54:15.800 in my career i also want to thank my employer at rebel news who continued to fight for me behind the

00:54:22.360 scenes even though i was unaware of it most of the time just because of how cut off i was from the rest of

00:54:28.200 the world but there were so many things being done that were all aimed at trying to get me out as

00:54:34.520 fast as possible there was a website established while i was in called save anna slats and if you'd

00:54:39.880 like to continue to support me you can visit that website you can visit stopantifa.com which is where

00:54:46.200 i put the majority of my riot coverage so far from washington dc so this is anna slats in new york city

00:54:54.200 a free woman once again and going to be back up to my old antics very very soon well we sort of have

00:55:02.680 a motto here rebel news we never leave anyone behind even if they're very brand new to the company as

00:55:08.440 anna was we also sometimes help journalists who have nothing to do with us we did that just the other

00:55:15.320 week millie weaver is a journalist that i actually don't at the time have any relationship with she

00:55:22.120 never worked for us she wasn't a pen pal or anything i just saw her on the internet like many others

00:55:27.960 did and then i saw a bizarre video of her being arrested at her home in front of her family on a

00:55:36.840 friday afternoon so that she had to stay in jail all weekend before she had a chance to appear before

00:55:43.560 a judge to be released it looked fishy to me and so we set up a go fund me for millie weaver take a

00:55:52.200 look at how some of that went oh thank god look at this breaking news breaking news breaking news

00:55:58.520 millie gavin and chuck all are being released this afternoon the kids will stay with millie and gavin

00:56:05.720 everybody should be reunited by dinner all great news just finished speaking with the attorneys a few

00:56:11.240 minutes ago thanks isn't that amazing you just heard it live

00:56:19.560 but i want to talk a little bit about a interesting little story out of the united states

00:56:24.760 um maybe some of you have heard of the independent journalist named millie weaver uh she is all she

00:56:31.400 started uh her uh tv career i think under the nickname millennial millie because she's a youngster

00:56:40.360 and um i i can't claim to to know her uh in a personal way i just know her like so many other

00:56:48.120 people do i watch her stuff and i and i like uh what she does she's telegenic she's courageous

00:56:55.080 sort of a happy warrior she's friendly and people talk to her and um so you know i'm just a fan that's

00:57:03.960 all but uh i saw this shocking video of her being arrested at her home with kids there and i know a

00:57:12.840 little something about how arrests go i'm a former lawyer myself and we've had some trouble making

00:57:21.160 uh rebels over the years tommy robinson being an obvious example and i know that

00:57:28.200 unless there's some hot pursuit or something like that or unless someone is a dangerous

00:57:33.880 violent criminal who might flee or or commit more violence typically police just call you up and say

00:57:40.120 hey can you you know you know as a courtesy they say we're going to arrest you do you want to come down

00:57:45.080 to the police station or do you want to or they call your lawyer and say would you like to come in and

00:57:50.600 and uh let's do the paperwork and they do that and typically to avoid embarrassment for the arrested

00:57:58.680 person like you've got to have a mean streak as a cop or prosecutor to barge into someone at a public

00:58:06.600 restaurant or at their office or um you know if you watch the sopranos at your daughter's wedding

00:58:17.800 um so the idea that they would go to millie's home and arrest her in front of the kids

00:58:27.880 on a friday afternoon so that by the time she's processed she's in jail all weekend

00:58:34.680 and that was a bunch of prosecutors and police using their discretion to make it as embarrassing

00:58:44.440 and painful as possible if she were arrested on any other day of the week

00:58:51.240 she would have been in front of a judge within hours rather than days and you know she's no flight

00:59:00.280 risk she's got kids and a house she's not violent at all the charges are have nothing to do no relation

00:59:08.440 to violence so i saw this video and i saw her repeatedly ask the cop what's going on what's the charge

00:59:16.600 what are you doing and not getting an answer and it was just so abnormal to me uh i felt compelled

00:59:25.240 to do something about it and i'll tell you what i did in a moment but first let me play for you

00:59:30.440 um at least a portion of the cell phone footage of millie weaver's arrest take a look at this

00:59:37.560 uh rick

00:59:40.680 you're saying a grand jury indicted me

00:59:44.440 for what we're going to have two 21s out here we have room to transport one can you send us a car

00:59:49.720 please 9107 yale road okay i will give you all your paperwork when we get to the jail right now

00:59:56.120 i need you to get some shoes okay because we need to get moving okay we need to get this thing care

01:00:06.840 guys i don't know what's happening right now okay the police have just showed up in my house

01:00:12.360 and they said that they're arresting me they said that a grand jury indicted me for something i have no

01:00:18.200 idea what this is crazy where's my shoe i have one shoe here okay i have one shoe there okay so we're

01:00:29.080 good so why why wasn't i given anything in the mail like i have no idea what this is talking about

01:00:36.920 guys i'm literally about to break huge breaking news right now and i'm being arrested and i have no

01:00:50.600 idea what this case

01:00:55.080 burglary yeah for what

01:00:59.400 they're not even saying they're saying we're being charged okay with now this is this from the grand

01:01:04.120 jury or these green sheets grand jury are these green sheets or are they great is this okay very

01:01:11.720 good um okay calm down this is my son right now all right buddy let's go to the car i've been more

01:01:19.960 than nice to the car i don't understand what's happening right now like please share i've been more

01:01:27.160 than nice really so you go to a woman's home and you arrest her in front of her kids and that's being

01:01:33.560 more than nice so you did hear a burglary charge um now i'm not going to try and get into the substance or

01:01:40.040 the merits of the claim of the action i just don't have the facts in front of me i understand that today

01:01:48.040 the matter will go before court in ravenna ohio um millie was arrested and i understand gavin her

01:02:04.760 common-law spouse was arrested as well and the kids were placed i think with one of the grandparents

01:02:10.600 i was advised that 11 a.m today so about an hour ago juvenile court uh started to sit in ohio

01:02:20.440 to determine the um what will happen to the kids but how can you do that if the mom and dad are still

01:02:30.280 in jail now apparently later today they'll have their arraignment but why would you do juvenile

01:02:37.080 court first when you don't know if the parents are it it's a lot of curious things now i'm not an

01:02:41.960 expert in ohio law i'm a former lawyer but a canadian lawyer so i know there's a few things here that

01:02:49.960 are sketchy from my point of view but it it seems to me or at least it certainly seemed to me just

01:02:55.720 watching that video the things here are irregular i'm not necessarily saying illegal but to arrest a mom

01:03:03.160 in front of her kid when that mom is not a flight risk and clearly not a danger to herself or others

01:03:10.760 that is a choice that's a choice

01:03:18.520 and and why was that choice made well millie is a conservative journalist

01:03:24.120 a skeptic a dissident

01:03:25.560 um and she released a youtube documentary about the u.s government on that same day

01:03:32.600 some people are connecting the two i have no i have no idea um the nature of the charges do not seem to

01:03:41.400 be associated with the content of the video but is the timing is the manner of the arrest i don't know

01:03:48.280 uh and over the weekend people were asking me well what about the charges they don't seem to be

01:03:57.000 political in nature you heard the word burglary and i heard some different explanations and excuses and

01:04:03.880 i thought you know what i'm not going to get into the substance of it i'm going to focus on one thing

01:04:10.360 only let's get millie a legal defense fund because unless unless she is independently wealthy and i don't

01:04:18.440 think she is getting lawyers to help her her common law husband her kids i just know that's going to be

01:04:28.200 tens of thousands of dollars i just know it and so i called some of millie's friends and colleagues

01:04:36.680 i don't know millie i don't have a personal connection with millie but i know we have friends

01:04:41.240 in common and i called them up on friday and i said what are you guys doing are you going to do a

01:04:45.800 crowdfund and none of them really were and i'm not uh going to judge that i mean maybe they don't know

01:04:52.920 how to do it maybe they didn't want the the notoriety or the publicity so i called two or three people

01:04:59.480 and they said no and i said well fine i'll do it it's very easy to set up a crowdfunding page actually

01:05:05.080 uh now i'm based in toronto canada so unfortunately the rules of gofundme is that

01:05:11.880 the crowdfund has to be set up in canadian uh currency so um but other than that one wrinkle

01:05:19.720 there's really no reason why anyone in the world couldn't set up a crowdfund for millie weaver so i did

01:05:25.960 that at about three o'clock um pacific time i was at west on um friday and uh i'm very pleased that

01:05:35.160 over the weekend look at that a hundred and fifty two thousand dollars now that's canadian mini bucks

01:05:41.480 but that's still more than a hundred thousand dollars us so i'm very pleased with that you know

01:05:48.040 what i'm gonna do i'm gonna send a text to uh i'm just gonna say any news because um matt

01:06:00.120 who is a family friend and advisor to millie and her common-law husband uh who's just been really

01:06:06.440 leading working all weekend i've been in touch with him a number of times on week all weekend he's trying

01:06:10.440 to find lawyers he's trying to deal with the criminal side with the juvenile side

01:06:13.960 so much going on um so i just he's at the courthouse i just texted him any news and i see him writing

01:06:21.480 back to me right now so uh when he's done typing that i'll let you know what he says um

01:06:31.480 oh yeah that's right we got we got this fun video oh let me just read this

01:06:36.200 oh thank god look at this breaking news breaking news breaking news

01:06:39.800 millie gavin and chuck all are being released this afternoon the kids will stay with millie and

01:06:47.000 gavin everybody should be reunited by dinner all great news just finished speaking with the

01:06:52.600 attorneys a few minutes ago thanks isn't that amazing you just heard it live let me read it again this is

01:07:00.680 from uh matt i'm not going to say his last name he's a family friend and advisor to millie and her

01:07:08.120 husband and he's literally at the court right now and i just texted him i just said any news

01:07:15.240 and he wrote millie gavin and chuck all are being released this afternoon well millie is out of jail

01:07:22.200 and thanks to our crowdfunding her lawyers have some ammo to fight back i expect to do an interview

01:07:28.680 with millie in the days ahead to see how things are working out but the short story is she's been

01:07:33.800 reunited with her kids that's what rebel news does we fight for freedom not just for ourselves and our

01:07:41.800 journalists but for other journalists around the world we think it sets a precedent we wish other

01:07:47.320 media companies did the same i can't think of the last time any other canadian media organization

01:07:53.480 went to bat for a journalist in a real and tangible way what i mean by that is crowdfunding sending

01:07:59.240 lawyers or even making a big ruckus about an inappropriate arrest of a journalist we even

01:08:05.240 help people we don't necessarily agree with ideologically because freedom in the press is

01:08:10.680 something you have to give to your opponents if you want it for yourself i was talking with some

01:08:15.800 colleagues earlier today and we thought one of the reasons why other journalists don't crowdfund or help

01:08:21.240 arrested journalists is because no one else gets arrested other than us in canada and our conservative

01:08:27.880 friends i think that's part of it also i think we care about freedom and we know we have to fight

01:08:33.400 for it and it's easier to fight in the first ditch than the last another way of saying that is if you

01:08:39.000 fight for someone else's freedom maybe you won't be forced to fight for your own at least not as soon

01:08:44.840 well that's a special edition of the ezra levant show a review of the four or five times we've helped

01:08:51.000 journalists who were arrested and not just from our own company if you were someone who chipped in to

01:08:55.800 crowdfund the lawyers or the other costs we paid along the way i want to say thanks to you and i

01:09:01.560 think we've made a difference well that's it for today's show on behalf of all of us here at rebel

01:09:06.920 world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - September 08, 2020

Fighting for journalistic freedom： why Rebel News works to free reporters from jail

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