Fort McMurray, “Planet of the Humans” and more (GUEST Robbie Picard)
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After surviving Notley, a fire, Trudeau, cancelled pipelines, a carbon tax and a collapse, Fort McMurray, Alberta is now experiencing a flood. In fact, the rebuilt home of former Wildrose leader Brian Jean has been claimed by the rising water.
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Hello Rebels, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're listening to a free audio-only recording of my
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fun Wednesday night show, The Gunn Show. My guest tonight is Robbie Picard from Oil and Gas Strong.
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He's calling in from his home in Fort McMurray and as you may know that community after surviving
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liberals, NDPers, fire and low oil prices is now experiencing a flood. Now if you like listening
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version of my show. What's the news from flooded Fort McMurray and what the heck is going on with
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Michael Moore's new documentary? I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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Fort McMurray, Alberta is flooding after surviving Notley, a fire, Trudeau, cancelled pipelines,
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a carbon tax and an oil price collapse. Fort Mac is underwater. In fact the rebuilt home of former
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Wild Rose leader Brian Jean has been claimed by the rising water. Jean first lost his home in the
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fire that swept into town in the spring of 2016 and so did my guest tonight. My friend Robbie Picard
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lost his home in that fire too and then watched the environmentalist movement use the wildfire to
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attack his town for the oil industry that drives it, claiming the fire was the will of an angry earth
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smiting the good people of Fort McMurray. The ghouls will be out again in force that's for sure and
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they're mad anyway. They're mad that one of their own Michael Moore has spoken out against green energy
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in his new documentary Planet of the Humans. So joining me tonight to talk about that movie and what
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is happening on the ground in his community is my friend Robbie Picard from Oil & Gas Strong in an
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interview we recorded yesterday afternoon. So joining me now from Fort McMurray is my friend Robbie Picard from
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Oil & Gas Strong. Robbie let's talk about what's happening in Fort McMurray right now. You have
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survived the NDP but just barely. The Liberals but just barely. Fire but just barely. Canceled pipelines
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but just barely and now we've got a flood. You just before this interview we're recording this
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Tuesday afternoon you were up in the air in a plane. You rented a plane so that you could assess
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the damage in Fort McMurray. Tell us what's going on. Well I was actually up two days in the row. I went up in a
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helicopter yesterday and then I went up in a plane today and it's far worse. It's far worse today than it was
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yesterday. I mean I would say I'm not a flood expert. I'm not pretending to be a flood expert but I'd say at least
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50% of downtown has now been compromised and a lot of like tons of my friends houses. I mean they're going to be
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complete right off. And it's only going to get worse. It's not going to because it's if you look in the
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in the video that I took the ice is just jamming. So when that ice gives way the water's got to go
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somewhere. So we'll have to see how that plays out. I'm not entirely sure just yet but it's it's not
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looking too good at this moment in time. Now I heard earlier today that the water is approaching
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the hospital. What's going on there? Because that hospital wasn't breached by fire but the water is
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getting really really close. So the hospital is slightly higher and they seem to be pretty
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comfortable but I don't know. I mean do they does anyone really know how this is going to play out?
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At this moment in time they're saying that the hospital is fine but I'm not entirely sure.
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Now this has got to be pretty traumatic for Fort McMurray because a lot of these homes that are now
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potentially going to be underwater these are in some cases reconstructions of homes that were
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burned. So we're talking to people we're talking about a community that has lost entire neighborhoods
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twice in you know five or ten years. Particularly in waterways. Yeah like waterways there's a few
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houses that are a bit higher up that seem okay for now. Drapers really they were hit by the fire hard
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and waterways was hit extremely hard by the fire. Most of those new homes are underwater now. So yeah it's
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going to be a whole lot of trauma and it's yeah it's it this is this is hitting and sometimes I'm a
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bit emotional sometimes I feel fine like in this moment in time my my house is safe I'm in thick
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when I'm on high up on a hill. So it's not like the last time where I was directly affected like when
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my house burnt down in the fire. But I mean yeah you question how much more can one community take
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and we have been hit and hit between low oil prices, crazy environmentalists,
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lack of market access, everything else. And then now this at a time when we're dealing with
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trying to do physical distancing, trying dealing with COVID-19 and trying to adapt to that maintain
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your paying your bills and the craziness. I mean yeah no it's it's a lot and but I don't know like
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I was a little down and then I'm up there. I think if there's one community that can get through this
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that's the key. But it's also important that at some point we get to a place that
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you know where we can thrive again and you know it doesn't seem like we're going to be thriving for
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a little while. Now are parts of the obviously parts of the community are being evacuated. Where
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are those people going to? Every hotel in Fort McMurray is full and I think people are going to Edmonton
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as well. They're staying with friends. Downtown I think it's they're saying 20,000 people have been
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evacuated. So you know it's not quite as much as the wildfire but it's it's a chunk. Wow well
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So yeah no it's a lot. It's definitely a lot. I'm trying to be optimistic but it's it's it's hard.
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Yeah Robbie please if there is something that we can do for Fort McMurray you're there.
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We're not. Do let me know if there's you know a charity that needs our help. I'd love to be able
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to amplify that. Fort McMurray has carried the load for a lot of this province for a lot of this
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country and you know we need to help when we can. I can't the amount of trauma that your community has
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been through and you in particular you lost your house in the fire. I mean it it's it's more
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than one community should have to handle but like you point out if there's a community that can handle
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it it's Fort McMurray. I appreciate that. Yeah and then one I mean on a side note the one thing that I
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am thrilled about is I like Michael Moore's new documentary Planet of Humans. You don't have to
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agree with everything in it but it was really nice to see him take some serious shots those hypocritical
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so-called environmentalists spewing their bullshit and for the first time in a long time prior to this
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flood I kind of got my fight back because periodically you question I mean am I on the right side no I feel
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like I am I know the facts and everything he said I knew it was so nice to see someone from the far
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left articulate that so brilliantly and uh calling people like suburban Berman a hypocrite and Mike
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Kadima hypocrites it's a lot easier it rolls off the tongue with a little bit more authority
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and that crazy young woman Greta Thunberg I mean I really hope she you know while she's isolated in
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her multi-million dollar house with her parents and their fancy sofas and all of that privilege and her
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apparently Swiss where is she from Switzerland no she's Norway right I don't even know where she's
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Sweden Sweden sorry I'm mixing her up her Swedish royalty bodyguards that keep her safe you know I
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hope she has time to check out Michael Moore's um uh movie basically pointing out that they're all full
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of it and there is no such thing as green energy so I I do hope that that uh gets the message out there
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on a on a side note but yeah um and definitely uh definitely I mean I I'm going to reassess
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everything as usual but I'm going to bunker down and we're going to make Fort McMurray work and this
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is my home it's been my home for a while and and yeah we'll get through this but uh if I definitely
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isolation materials watching that documentary yeah let's talk about that for a little bit because um
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you and I were discussing that off camera when I called you and said Robbie please come on my show
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today and let's check in and let's talk about what what's happening in Fort McMurray and you were
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very excited about Michael Moore's new documentary um because it does talk about the hypocrisy of green
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energy that it requires fossil fuel backups and that it is exceedingly toxic and it is it's toxic
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in ways that the left likes to say they care about like the left likes to say that they care about
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children and poor people but green energy is exceedingly toxic for children and poor people
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who have to live in its aftermath um how did let's talk about how the left is responding to one of their
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own coming out and pointing out their own hypocrisy because I saw Elizabeth May and her tweets about this
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she said the video is full of lies um it it seems as though the left is slightly losing their mind
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because one of their own is trying to show them the truth well it's nice to see Elizabeth May
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scared of her fellow American Michael Moore and calling them out on their nonsense uh I can out of
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all the politicians in Canada the biggest one who's full of bullshit is Elizabeth May she's all happy
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because she can hop on a private plane with Andrew Sheeran bragging about it like a little school
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girl oh my god I got a private plane um she's really not a party leader I mean yes they have three
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seats now the amount of credibility she gets for her one seat is pathetic but her attack on her new
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her new country Canada has been relentless attack on the indigenous people in Fort McMurray she attacks
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the pipelines and support and I would argue I mean I might not agree with everything Michael Moore has
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done but if I was to say who possesses more intelligence I would say Michael Moore and I don't think
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Elizabeth May has a clue um and it's nice to see her squirm a little bit because you know what
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they hit a nerve they're full of it solar power is not green windmills are not green none of it's green
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and it has consequences now and here's the thing if you set up a windmills and then or um air wind
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turbines and then you have to have a power plant as a backup and the backup has to run 70 percent of the
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time it's not working and you're better off to just stick with what you know and improve on it
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burn cleaner coal burn natural gas use oil size and constantly improve try to get the emissions down
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try to deal with plastic pollution deal with it but this notion that we need to destroy our lives
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for this fairy tale of non-existent green energy blows my mind and then some of the other stuff like
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okay so now we're going to burn alligators we're going to go after alligators and we're going to
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fuel cars with that and then seaweed okay no they don't care well seaweed sounds renewable so rip all
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the seaweed out destroy all of the oceans for green energy they're full of it they don't have a clue
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what they're doing they never have and they've attacked our community and our industry over and
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over again it's it's just it's so i'm we've known this for a while and it's sad that it took michael
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more to bring it up even a little bit of our fight but it felt it felt good and you know michael
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more like i mean i know he's completely on the left but i would argue he helped get donald trump
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elected michael more at least has enough sense to have some sort of authenticity and honesty in his
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documentaries and and i i i really hope that i mean it's going to be fun because like the amount of
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stuff that that uncovered and candidly the people that support like you know all these so-called green
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movements are stupid i mean when you hear them being interviewed and they're at a protest and they're
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like okay why are you here and well well we're here for the pipeline what's in this pipeline well
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oil sands or tar sands or whatever but it's natural gas and they're too stupid to even know why they're
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there then they need to be called stupid they're stupid that's that simple they don't understand
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what they're protesting if they have to go to their superior who paid them to be there uh why are we
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here protesting they're not authentically there because they don't know the facts they don't know
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nothing and i would argue the manipulation from burman and elizabeth may is destroying our country
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and somehow they've infiltrated into the liberals too and hopefully we get our balls back and we
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start fighting back harder and saying no you're not going to destroy our entire economy and we are
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already doing the right things and we're going to continue to do the right things we're going to
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continue to be successful but enough and enough this like apologizing we don't need some stupid
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stuck up child coming here from a foreign country with her privilege and we also know she's a little
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girl you can't question even myself i was scared to take her on she has enough power and enough reach
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to try to take us out and if we don't start defending ourselves or have some sense of self
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preservation we are done and i i'm not going to sit back and be quiet anymore or politically correct
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elizabeth may is an idiot she does not know what she's doing and she should not be destroying our
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energy industry enough michael moore like him or hate him hit a lot of nail or hit the nail on the
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head on a lot of facts and one thing i will say as consumption in the world we need to maybe think
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about how we look at that that's what i got from the documentary we don't need to consume consume
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consume but when it comes to our energy in canada we're ahead of all of them we're not talking about
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consuming things we're not have this notion so that we're going to like use animal fat and we're
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going to butcher more animals just to fuel our cars if we're going to have to cause that it's bad
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enough we got to eat meat and go with factories and all that now we're going to destroy them to
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fuel cars i mean they don't have a clue what they're doing and the documentary exposed it
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well i for one would love the exhaust of my jeep to smell like french fries but that's just me um
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i think it is there's something to be said for the fact that this had to come from michael moore
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there are conservative filmmakers out there but i think michael moore like you say he's on the left
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conservatives are so desperate for someone to tell them the truth about green energy the truth that
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we already know that we've been telling everybody for years it's not green except if you want to talk
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about the color of the green tailings ponds it's we're happily ready to listen to the likes of
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michael moore who is anti-capitalist as they come we're happy to get our information from him because
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at least someone is telling the story and so i guess my question is where the heck are the
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conservative filmmakers to make this exact movie why did it have to come from michael moore
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one time you had a meme or something and or no it was a video it was up there and i and i remember
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when donald trump won the election i remember the little fits that they had in the street like right
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and then there was a video of a girl who she lost the election the conservatives lost and they asked her
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question she says well i gotta get back to work yeah i think conservatives tend to just deal with facts a
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little bit more and are less dramatic and you know but but now like unless it affects their bottom line
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but like even even here like we tend to just want to problem solve okay we got a flood instead of being
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angry about it okay how are we gonna get through it right like it's less about blame but um i think
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on both sides like i know like okay if if rachel notley does something good on my page i'll post it and
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then all of a sudden oh my god i get attacked and we don't have the like we don't have enough sense
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to say okay no i don't like rachel notley i don't agree with everything but this point i agree with
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we had we need to get back to reality because i think if we get back to reality and stopping so
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polarized on on all fronts we might actually make some progress and live better lives um
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i mean even a friend of mine like i complimented donald trump on one thing and she literally walked
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out of the room wouldn't talk to me and i just said well he did good he did this good thing like
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my friend's an investor and he said this was a good move and no no no heaven forbid right i mean people
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hate donald trump so much that they would rather just pretend he doesn't exist or go
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like let the entire world fall apart but um yes we we need to we need to try and um we need to put
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some interesting content out some interesting documentaries but we also got to remember that
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the audience is broad and it can't just be for one way or the other and i think i mean i mean
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if michael moore did an anti-oil sands documentary wouldn't have blinked an eye
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yeah that would have been oh yeah whatever it would have just kind of whatever rolled off our
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backs right but he did something that shocked us too it's like whoa so we need to do the same thing
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we need to find commonality with all sides and then and less division and then hit back but like
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the thing is that gretchenberg support berman naomi klein mike adima and that lovely guy from
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350.org in the united states i mean he's such an incredible individual i was so impressed
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watching him squirm with simple questions i mean he led everything um i uh those guys we need to
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seriously call out and like no you're not going to shut down our entire planet our entire industry
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you're not gonna you're not gonna ruin the lives of our children and our grandchildren and no you don't
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have the solution because your so-called green energy is worse worse tailings ponds more mining
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more dependence on fossil fuel how about why don't we find a real solution and make the world better
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gradually and stop the the houses well fort mcbury is flooding but greta the house is not on fire and
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take it here's the message to greta if i mean i'm not sure she she her royalty will watch this but
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um what i would say is coming from a person whose house actually was on fire the worst thing to do
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is panic ever you never panic panicking is stupid if you panic during a flood you die if you panic
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during a fire you die i want you to act like your house is on fire i want you to panic like i mean my
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god little girl you're 17 now so it's almost old enough when people could really start telling you off
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and i have had enough of being told off by a girl who clearly has no clue about life
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the worst thing to do ever in any situation is panic the key is to be responsible methodical
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logical know all the facts and make decisions that make the world better pretending she's like carbon
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free when her her yacht team fly across the world and fly over she causes more carbon pollution than
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anybody she just she just pretends she doesn't you know not every little girl i'm gonna stop
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calling her a little girl she's like when my little foster sisters were like 17 i mean they were like
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they were horrible they tell you off in two seconds i mean you want to i mean like one of them kicked me
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like they're tough at 17 like give me a break she's not she's not a little girl she just looks like one
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bottom line is is that when it comes to when it comes to the reality most kids don't have rich parents
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that they can take a train and if they ever get to take a flight they have to take it like
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this is ridiculous and if they're successful and the green new deal happens well good this you got a
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taste of it right now this is the green new deal you know social distancing grocery stores running out
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of food panic that's the green new deal that's the future and michael moore called them out on it and
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hopefully hopefully we can see what's really behind this and get some common sense back into our
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country robbie you brought up the green new deal now i don't know if you saw that question because
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this wasn't on our list of things to talk about but you saw that question that somebody asked uh
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jason kenney and actually it was a reporter from a calgary-based outlet uh 660 news asked him if he had
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considered adopting a quote green new deal uh aoc's green new deal as opposed to uh doing something
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to spur the economic growth in uh the oil and gas sector i wanted to ask your opinion of that
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um because jason kenney took a lot of heat for shutting down that reporter and calling them out
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for the absurdity of their question um but what do you think about it
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i don't believe the green new deal has anything to do about the environment at all i think it's
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some sort of notion that you're going to have this sort of uh one income glorified welfare and a form
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of socialism or slight communism and in that theory you'll end up with a different class system you'll
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have the elites like the al gores and the michael bloombergs who want to ultimately hold on to
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their power and believe it or not like donald trump or hate donald trump he's like he's not an elite
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he's he's a billionaire rich guy but he's not an elite and there's a difference because they
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the celebrities and like all of them they're all this part of the sort of thing and the green new
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deal is really that and they don't care they're trying to use climate change and uh universal income
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and all this stuff to justify it um jason kenney's under a lot of pressure right now i mean he's
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dealing with low oil prices covet 19 now he's got to deal with the fort mcmurray flood and um i think
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he handled that okay i mean maybe he could have threw a little bit more pipe back but you know
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considering what he's asked to go through i mean i think he's doing a decent job leading us right now
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um to candidly i i i'm impressed with all the premiers doug ford um uh the the uh what's the
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guys in bc i forgot his name now um horgan yes horgan i'm not i'm not a huge lover of horgan but i
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think he's handling the crisis with some class and respect and you got to give them some credit
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not impressed with the prime minister he sits outside his perfect little posh little place and
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comes out every day and i think that uh you know it's i'm not impressed with them at all um
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maybe people would disagree um but no i i understand our premiers like you know he's under a lot of
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pressure and uh the green new deer sorry the green new deer the green new deal is bs
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they they don't know what the there if i was to analyze them after kind of going them for a few years
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there's a whole other level of narcissism that's in these environmentalists yeah some of them are
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kind of grit like kiwanis you know she kind of grit like she like you know she like married a
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three-time murderer you know and she yells at rcmp and a megaphone and stuff right yeah but the rest
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like like they're all perfect their hair is perfect their makeup is perfect they're all
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like their instagram stars right and i think there's a degree of narcissism in them i truly do like
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they're they're they're all about the pose and they're all like we're warriors but meanwhile there's
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not a crease on their outfits and they're traditional and it's not my place to tell
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people how to dress right but candidly i don't think they have a clue but they've got a bit of
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a following and can't and and they're beating us in a lot of ways i mean greta timber when she says
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we're winning she's not wrong it's i mean like she like we have to like the people that they're
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defending industry have got to get off our asses and do something and we have to fight back
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but um they don't really have a solution here's what the rest of normal canadians need to
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understand if they succeed sure you might get some temporary universal income but the long-term
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effects of what happens will never be able to recover but if we stick to what we know and we
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improve what we know and get better and better and better and different forms of energy will happen
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over time then we will have a better society i'm not saying that we're perfect we're not but my god
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after watching that documentary i realized that they have no clue and are we gonna let clueless
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people that don't necessarily possess the knowledge and intelligence to lead us take us down this rabbit
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hole of disaster because when the dust settles you know right now in fort mcmurray you can see it
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greenpeace is not here i mean i'm sure mike adima might you know go to some food bank and huck some
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bags at the end of the day they don't give a shit about fort mcmurray jane fonda never cared about us
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they don't care about our community they just want to use us as a symbol so they can do nice
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instagram posts and have perfect hair in videos yeah isn't that the truth you know they're going
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to use much like they did with the fire they're going to use the flood in your community as a
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reason why your community should be shuttered from oil and gas forever that's exactly what's going to
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happen i i i don't have to have a crystal ball i have a crystal mind and i can see it in the future
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robbie you're very clearly fired up especially after watching michael moore's new documentary
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how do people support you in your fight for families like mine because you don't receive a
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lot of funding from big oil you're mostly just a grassroots guy just giving her out there um
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because you believe in your community and you believe in what your community does
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it's real simple i have two websites now so the old website we did a little bit of a shift we
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switched the name to oil and gas strong from oil sand strong we still have our oil sands a
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strong brand and everything but because like you know this this is broader than just the oil sands
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i wanted to kind of change change it up a little bit and um so you can actually go to oil sandstrong.com
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or oil and gas strong.com doesn't quite roll off the tongue quite yet um and buy seven shirts and
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six key chains and then we're good to go but yeah no i mean i for the most part like i own a marketing
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company and i do videos and i sell sponsorship for videos and some of the organizations i do videos
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for but yeah it can be uh it can be a little bit tight sometimes but i'm doing the best i can with
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what i have and and candidly i've kind of fired up because you know it's nice to i i i it was enough
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to motivate me but it's hard because like you know you're you're battling this fight and in
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contrary to popular belief like um the other side they have money serious money yeah and like you
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know when like when berman gets two million dollars i mean that's just what we know about
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right these people they have money this is their job i mean could you imagine making that kind of
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bank and your mission is to destroy the thing so it's hard like i mean i'm i'm oil sandstrong i'm an
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oil and gas strong i'm very proud of what we've done you know we're very small and we sometimes have
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the highest engagement in the country and you know we don't buy our likes we don't have that
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ability we we fight hard and keep going so three things invite your friends to like oil oil and gas
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strong on facebook and then and go on twitter too uh to oil sandstrong but that'll be like i mean i
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know it's a bit confusing i'm one dude in an office so you gotta give me some slack here um and also
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real simple um just share our stuff and help our page grow because like i am you know it's hard to do
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this all the time but i'm finding my voice again and i am going to be stepping up because
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we have to fight and um i don't want to shut for mcmurray down and i don't believe that getting
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rid of the like our energy is the answer we have the best energy in the world we should be developing
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it more sustainably and working together to make it to make it work and and we are doing that and i i
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think that uh when the dust settles and oil prices go back up we'll still be here standing like i mean
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we just might have to wear rubber boots for a while well robbie um i i'm praying for the best
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for your community that this is not as bad as it looks um and thank you so much for fighting for
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families like mine and again i don't have a crystal ball but i know that you have some very exciting
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things to announce in your near future thank you very much it was always a pleasure being on your show
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it is so important to get the economy opened back up as the covid 19 crisis winds down why
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because we need that economic growth to help fort mcmurray rebuild so that fort mcmurray can help the
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rest of the country rebuild well everybody that's the show for tonight thank you so much for tuning in
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i'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week please stay healthy stay in
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contact with your friends and family and remember don't let the government tell you that you've had