Rebel News Podcast - February 12, 2021


George Papadopoulos Predicts Facebook Working with Joe Biden | Andrew Says 10


Episode Stats

Length

31 minutes

Words per Minute

169.3908

Word Count

5,320

Sentence Count

192

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

George Papadopoulos is a former member of the Foreign Policy Advisory Panel for Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and an author of Deep State Target, how it got caught in the crosshairs of a plot to bring down President Trump.


Transcript

00:00:00.080 This week, I was very excited to talk to former Trump campaign staffer, George Papadopoulos.
00:00:05.840 If you remember, he got swept up in the whole spying on the campaign, on the Trump campaign,
00:00:10.580 and the whole Russiagate investigation, the Mueller campaign.
00:00:14.540 Didn't work out very well for them, did it?
00:00:16.540 The FBI arrested him for lying, but it was pretty complicated to say the least.
00:00:20.640 We definitely talk about that.
00:00:22.300 You're going to hear us talk about Russiagate, why Trump pardoned him,
00:00:25.040 which he did just before he left office.
00:00:26.980 And he makes some pretty accurate predictions, George does, about social media
00:00:30.960 and working with the Biden administration that have actually already come true
00:00:34.940 since we've recorded this episode.
00:00:36.680 So if you're interested in the whole Russiagate story and Trump and stuff
00:00:40.140 about the corruption of the intelligence community,
00:00:42.580 then you'll definitely want to go to rebelnewsplus.com
00:00:44.900 and sign up to watch the whole episode unedited and uncensored.
00:00:50.800 It's true. I'm not making it up.
00:00:52.820 It's really interesting.
00:00:53.640 And once we're behind the paywall, we actually talk about what Trump is like
00:00:56.440 really in person because he would sit in on the meetings.
00:00:59.380 There's that famous photo of George on the panel with Trump.
00:01:03.260 We talk about social media censorship and who George himself thinks we should trust
00:01:07.440 in the government these days.
00:01:08.600 Again, that's rebelnewsplus.com.
00:01:10.680 This is episode 10 of Andrew Says Guys, and we are just getting started,
00:01:13.880 so you don't want to miss it.
00:01:15.180 We're just getting heated up, and this is a great conversation I had with George.
00:01:18.160 I was applying to work for the campaign.
00:01:34.140 I didn't express any real interest in Russia whatsoever.
00:01:37.220 I came from an energy background.
00:01:39.700 You know, all my business was actually done in the Middle East.
00:01:41.960 Right.
00:01:42.360 You know, and the one meeting I did set up with Trump was with the Egyptian president
00:01:45.760 because that's actually where I had real contacts at.
00:01:48.260 Obviously, I couldn't set up the meeting between Trump and Putin for two reasons.
00:01:51.260 One, after a while, it seemed that the campaign did not want to actually host this meeting,
00:01:55.600 which is public record now.
00:01:57.360 And two, obviously, I didn't have real connections to Russia.
00:01:59.300 The guilty plea of George Papadopoulos is providing fresh insight
00:02:03.480 into Robert Mueller's wide-ranging investigation
00:02:06.080 of Russia's attempt to influence the presidential campaign.
00:02:09.640 When Papadopoulos was sentenced October 5th,
00:02:12.380 one of the prosecutors described it as, quote,
00:02:14.860 an ongoing investigation, of which this case is a small part.
00:02:18.960 His personality is very educated, articulated,
00:02:22.540 and even his contribution to the campaign has been much more relevant than bringing coffee.
00:02:27.940 Yet you didn't voluntarily tell anyone.
00:02:30.320 And number two, why all the lies?
00:02:34.060 You were convicted of lying.
00:02:35.340 Michael Flynn was convicted of lying.
00:02:37.360 Michael Cohen was convicted of lying.
00:02:39.700 There have been other lies related to it from the podium at the White House.
00:02:43.000 Why all the lies?
00:02:44.400 I made it kind of clear in the book, too,
00:02:46.420 but it's very important for me to say it out loud as well
00:02:49.040 of why this lie occurred during my initial meeting with the FBI.
00:02:53.160 Playing this cat-and-mouse game with this individual, Joseph Mifsud,
00:02:56.120 in which candidate Trump, President Trump, or any of his team, for that matter,
00:02:59.900 outside of me, had anything to do with.
00:03:02.240 As I'm being asked questions about this person,
00:03:04.780 the last thing I wanted to do was involve anyone on the campaign
00:03:07.480 or the transition team or the president himself.
00:03:09.660 So what I did was I distanced myself from this individual.
00:03:13.400 I characterized him as a nobody, but somebody that should be looked into
00:03:17.240 because I wanted to basically do two things,
00:03:19.680 help my country look into this guy,
00:03:21.240 but also not involve the president because he had nothing to do with this person
00:03:24.660 and he didn't deserve the scrutiny of what seemed to be
00:03:27.780 a foolish meeting with this person.
00:03:36.080 George Papadopoulos is a former member of the Foreign Policy Advisory Panel for Donald Trump
00:03:40.480 and an author of Deep State Target,
00:03:42.940 how it got caught in the crosshairs of the plot to bring down President Trump,
00:03:46.200 which was released just last year.
00:03:48.700 You can find him on Twitter at GeorgePapa19,
00:03:51.040 where he has a following of about 700,000 people.
00:03:54.160 George, thanks for coming on the show.
00:03:55.580 How are you today?
00:03:57.000 Thanks so much for having me.
00:03:58.140 It's a real pleasure.
00:03:59.700 Now, start for the people who don't know.
00:04:02.440 Start by telling them how you were involved in the Trump campaign
00:04:04.900 because if you just do a quick search of you,
00:04:08.400 I mean, your Wikipedia page,
00:04:10.120 it's clearly biased.
00:04:11.360 They make sure to call you a criminal,
00:04:12.800 but they don't mention that you were spied on.
00:04:14.680 I keyword searched, spied, spying.
00:04:18.160 I mean, it's obviously on purpose.
00:04:19.740 I think I can tell from that,
00:04:21.620 but tell people how you got to this point now.
00:04:25.280 Yeah, well, I'm glad you did mention Google and Wikipedia
00:04:28.800 because, you know, the moment you Google,
00:04:32.720 let's say, a prominent conservative voice on Google or Wikipedia,
00:04:36.500 they're just going to basically spread as much disinformation
00:04:39.360 and fake stories and news as possible,
00:04:41.860 especially in my case because it was at the center of a plot,
00:04:45.960 essentially, to undo a presidential election.
00:04:49.100 So what my story essentially comes down to was
00:04:52.620 an earnest, hardworking analyst in Washington, D.C.,
00:04:56.840 working at a conservative think tank,
00:04:59.560 along with very establishment-type personalities
00:05:02.140 who had worked directly with George H.W. Bush,
00:05:06.660 George W. Bush, and Reagan,
00:05:08.940 people like Scooter Libby,
00:05:10.240 who was the chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney,
00:05:13.280 Doug Fite, under Secretary of Defense,
00:05:15.660 under Rumsfeld.
00:05:16.820 So I worked with these personalities for five years
00:05:19.100 as an analyst in D.C.
00:05:20.260 until the summer of 2015,
00:05:22.720 when clearly there was a presidential election season
00:05:25.580 around the corner.
00:05:26.440 And I looked at the landscape.
00:05:27.620 I saw what was happening in the United States
00:05:29.820 and around the world.
00:05:31.040 And I thought that America needed more of a populist
00:05:33.620 kind of leader or somebody who at least espoused
00:05:37.620 that type of rhetoric
00:05:38.640 and actually had tangible policy prescriptions
00:05:41.580 that would address the nation's political security
00:05:45.420 and economic woes.
00:05:46.680 And that was Donald Trump.
00:05:48.160 And also Ben Carson, I thought,
00:05:49.860 had an interesting angle to play with.
00:05:52.560 So I first joined Ben Carson's presidential campaign
00:05:56.060 until he dropped out.
00:05:57.920 And after Ben Carson drops out,
00:06:00.120 I had joined Donald Trump's campaign.
00:06:02.000 And that's when the world's intelligence community
00:06:04.380 fell in my lap.
00:06:06.180 Yeah, and I'll get to a little bit about the story
00:06:08.800 about how they got permission to do that.
00:06:11.860 But at what point did you realize
00:06:14.020 or what part in time were you informed
00:06:17.180 that you were being surveilled by the FBI?
00:06:20.020 Was it through somebody in the administration calling you?
00:06:23.700 Was it from the media itself?
00:06:25.120 How did you get word of this?
00:06:28.140 Well, essentially what happened was
00:06:30.760 before even the Washington Post had announced
00:06:34.440 that I had joined the Donald Trump campaign,
00:06:37.440 I was actually based in London
00:06:38.940 in between working for the Ben Carson
00:06:41.720 and Donald Trump campaign.
00:06:43.860 And immediately upon me telling
00:06:46.600 this mysterious organization that had hired me
00:06:50.420 right after I left Ben Carson's campaign,
00:06:53.180 I tell them, look, I'm leaving your organization.
00:06:56.400 I'm going to be joining the Trump campaign.
00:06:58.760 And that's when this group began to introduce me
00:07:02.000 to a lot of the mysterious and shady characters
00:07:04.480 that we later understood and were at the epicenter
00:07:07.820 of the entire spying scandal.
00:07:10.480 People like Joseph Mipson,
00:07:12.120 some of the viewers might know
00:07:15.120 if they followed somewhat of the Obama-Gate-Spygate story
00:07:18.660 and others.
00:07:19.900 So a lot of actually what happened to me
00:07:21.880 was based abroad.
00:07:22.980 A lot of the spying was based in London,
00:07:24.780 which suggests that it wasn't actually the FBI
00:07:28.060 who was running the operation against me.
00:07:31.000 And that's why I think my story
00:07:33.560 has yet to actually have a final chapter closed on it.
00:07:37.320 Now, for me personally, years ago
00:07:41.000 when this stuff was happening,
00:07:42.060 this was one of my first really big YouTube videos.
00:07:45.720 It had hundreds of thousands of views.
00:07:48.300 If I recall correctly, I think it was the New York Times
00:07:50.500 was the publication that said
00:07:53.460 the Trump campaign was spied on.
00:07:55.400 And then they later retracted that
00:07:57.280 when it was no longer politically convenient.
00:07:59.380 And if I have any of the timeline incorrect here,
00:08:01.480 please correct me.
00:08:03.440 But from what I understand,
00:08:04.500 and this is just from memory,
00:08:06.040 they used the Steele dossier to feed,
00:08:10.760 they fed that to certain publications.
00:08:13.020 I believe Yahoo News is the one that name,
00:08:15.360 that always comes up.
00:08:16.780 And they used that for the reason
00:08:19.920 to do the surveillance.
00:08:21.560 And then afterwards they did the unmasking.
00:08:23.400 Is that the correct timeline there?
00:08:26.060 Yeah.
00:08:26.460 So essentially what was going on
00:08:28.540 is that a paid foreign agent,
00:08:30.900 an ex-MI6 official, Christopher Steele,
00:08:33.180 was essentially on the payroll
00:08:35.200 of the Clinton campaign.
00:08:37.200 He would have funds to basically dirty up
00:08:40.800 the campaign and to spread propaganda
00:08:44.000 and misinformation to both the FBI
00:08:46.680 and to the U.S. media.
00:08:48.780 We know based on recently classified documents
00:08:51.240 that the FBI began to waver
00:08:53.560 in their confidence of Christopher Steele
00:08:55.760 once they learned that he was on the payroll
00:08:58.120 of the Clinton campaign
00:08:59.300 and that he was actually leaking
00:09:01.220 information to the media,
00:09:03.380 something that he should not have been doing.
00:09:06.160 So this actually was utilized
00:09:08.000 and weaponized, if you will,
00:09:10.060 to then obtain search warrants
00:09:12.200 and FISA warrants
00:09:13.700 against individual members of the campaign,
00:09:16.240 like Carter Page,
00:09:17.320 who was then later utilized
00:09:19.760 to spy on the entire campaign
00:09:21.440 and to wiretap everybody.
00:09:22.840 And if I'm not mistaken,
00:09:25.560 they also,
00:09:26.680 the people who authorize the unmasking
00:09:30.460 are not unbiased individuals either.
00:09:33.080 And from what I remember,
00:09:34.440 I believe BuzzFeed was the first
00:09:36.380 to publish the dossier
00:09:38.980 and then CNN piggybacked on it
00:09:40.820 and they said,
00:09:41.460 oh no, we're just telling you
00:09:42.620 what BuzzFeed says.
00:09:44.080 And then you've got people
00:09:45.500 like Clapper and Brennan,
00:09:47.340 they're all saying,
00:09:48.480 Russiagate, Russiagate,
00:09:49.780 Trump's a traitor,
00:09:50.600 all this sorts of stuff.
00:09:52.060 At what point did you realize
00:09:54.500 that the media is not being truthful?
00:09:57.000 Was it easy to point out
00:09:58.420 right from the onset
00:09:59.360 or did you have to sort of like
00:10:01.240 figure out who was a friend
00:10:03.500 and who was a foe?
00:10:04.460 If there were any friends
00:10:05.600 for you at that time.
00:10:08.240 Well, a couple,
00:10:09.440 so I was actually at Trump's inauguration
00:10:12.540 where I was meeting
00:10:13.860 with the incoming White House
00:10:15.660 chief of staff,
00:10:16.460 Reince Priebus,
00:10:17.200 and discussed my potential role
00:10:19.540 with the administration.
00:10:20.600 And then just two days later,
00:10:21.940 after I went to visit
00:10:23.340 some family in Chicago,
00:10:24.560 I found the FBI
00:10:26.320 knocking on my family's door
00:10:28.400 and they made it very clear
00:10:30.020 that they had been
00:10:31.040 keeping tabs on me
00:10:32.300 for a very long time,
00:10:34.100 something that I didn't understand why.
00:10:36.000 But, you know,
00:10:36.600 as somebody who loves my country,
00:10:38.960 I thought the FBI
00:10:40.140 wanted to come talk to me.
00:10:41.440 They're not trying to set up
00:10:42.740 an American
00:10:43.820 or somebody working
00:10:44.880 for a presidential campaign.
00:10:46.080 They're just looking
00:10:46.720 to actually understand
00:10:48.300 a potential,
00:10:49.260 you know,
00:10:49.700 national security issue.
00:10:51.580 So really fast upon
00:10:53.080 this FBI interview,
00:10:54.520 it looked like
00:10:55.080 they were trying to set me up.
00:10:56.400 I leave the interview
00:10:57.260 and that's when the media
00:10:58.720 starts reaching out to me.
00:11:01.580 They start asking me,
00:11:02.640 as the FBI interviewed you,
00:11:04.180 as the FBI interviewed
00:11:05.040 other people on the campaign,
00:11:06.700 they started to detail
00:11:08.300 information to me
00:11:09.780 that would have been impossible
00:11:10.840 to understand or know
00:11:12.140 unless they were being fed information
00:11:14.060 by the intelligence community.
00:11:15.460 So right away,
00:11:16.900 and this is, you know,
00:11:17.520 the early stages
00:11:18.300 of Trump's presidency,
00:11:20.120 I understood quite quickly
00:11:21.760 that the media
00:11:22.500 was in the lap,
00:11:24.140 if you will,
00:11:24.600 of the intel community
00:11:25.640 or at least they were,
00:11:27.140 there were some sort
00:11:27.800 of working relationship
00:11:28.780 with them
00:11:29.320 with one end objective
00:11:30.940 and that was to harm
00:11:31.820 Trump's presidency.
00:11:33.340 That's what I saw.
00:11:34.900 I didn't,
00:11:35.400 I never saw the media
00:11:36.440 except a few conservative outlets
00:11:39.500 which were very up and coming
00:11:41.020 in 2017, 2018,
00:11:42.840 like the Daily Caller,
00:11:45.060 which are now more established,
00:11:47.000 reaching out to try
00:11:48.100 and actually understand
00:11:49.120 the true story.
00:11:50.660 But, you know,
00:11:51.500 we really had our backs
00:11:52.860 against the wall
00:11:53.680 with the media
00:11:54.760 completely biased
00:11:55.940 against anyone associated
00:11:57.280 to Trump's team
00:11:58.120 and they were looking for blood
00:11:59.740 never to get the actual
00:12:00.860 real story out.
00:12:02.960 Yeah,
00:12:03.660 as a person who started
00:12:05.860 following all of this,
00:12:07.160 I feel like right
00:12:08.060 when it happened
00:12:08.700 and that was probably
00:12:09.660 one of the stories
00:12:10.520 that I was most on top of
00:12:11.700 in my short career
00:12:13.740 up until now,
00:12:15.140 it was pretty apparent
00:12:17.320 where the allegiances lied
00:12:20.700 in terms of having
00:12:21.540 to tell the truth.
00:12:23.060 I mean,
00:12:23.300 I remember vividly
00:12:25.320 Anderson Cooper
00:12:26.600 being on TV
00:12:27.680 and just the blatant,
00:12:30.320 it's more of an admit,
00:12:31.860 omitting the truth
00:12:33.060 than lying in my opinion
00:12:34.860 and the way they pretended
00:12:36.300 as if they didn't support
00:12:37.560 what was going on
00:12:38.500 and the way that they claimed
00:12:41.260 that they weren't actually
00:12:42.140 publishing the information
00:12:43.460 and they didn't have
00:12:44.960 any people in the FBI
00:12:46.920 telling them anything.
00:12:47.720 I found it incredibly
00:12:49.300 suspicious at the time
00:12:50.260 and that's even before
00:12:51.300 a lot of the stuff came out.
00:12:53.020 Now,
00:12:53.240 I'm sure you faced
00:12:54.100 a hell of a lot of backlash
00:12:56.060 and people criticizing you.
00:12:58.460 What is your response
00:13:00.020 when you're being
00:13:01.920 your most level-headed self
00:13:03.480 to people who say,
00:13:04.680 well,
00:13:04.820 why should I believe you?
00:13:05.860 You were charged by the FBI.
00:13:07.060 Look,
00:13:09.540 let's look at a couple facts.
00:13:12.040 The fact is
00:13:13.040 there's a massive
00:13:13.800 criminal inquiry
00:13:15.040 ongoing for the last year
00:13:16.860 by a special counsel now
00:13:18.880 named John Durham
00:13:19.740 who's actually looking
00:13:21.380 into the origins
00:13:22.960 of the so-called
00:13:24.380 Russia investigation.
00:13:26.640 John Durham,
00:13:28.120 who's now a special counsel
00:13:29.240 and the former
00:13:30.200 Attorney General
00:13:31.040 William Barr,
00:13:32.620 both publicly refuted
00:13:34.200 the Inspector General
00:13:36.240 and the FBI
00:13:37.420 regarding how this
00:13:39.020 entire investigation
00:13:40.120 started
00:13:40.760 and whether it even
00:13:41.480 had any basis.
00:13:42.520 That's the first thing.
00:13:43.780 The second point is
00:13:44.780 the FBI lawyer
00:13:45.860 who was in charge
00:13:47.400 of my so-called case,
00:13:49.180 Kevin Clinesmith,
00:13:50.500 he's pled guilty.
00:13:52.100 He was indicted
00:13:52.680 and he's looking
00:13:53.300 at six months
00:13:53.940 in prison
00:13:55.180 for altering documents.
00:13:57.080 He's actually been
00:13:57.680 the first
00:13:58.200 ex-FBI official
00:14:00.100 who's been charged
00:14:01.220 by the Durham investigation.
00:14:03.720 And the third point
00:14:05.500 I would make
00:14:06.480 is that
00:14:07.460 I've never met
00:14:08.580 a Russian official
00:14:09.300 in my entire life.
00:14:10.420 I've never even
00:14:10.840 traveled to Russia.
00:14:12.200 So the notion
00:14:13.200 that I would be part
00:14:14.240 of some sort of
00:14:15.040 massive Russia
00:14:16.140 criminal conspiracy
00:14:17.400 is just baseless,
00:14:19.440 nonsensical,
00:14:20.600 and you can understand
00:14:21.660 how in tune
00:14:23.460 the media must have been
00:14:24.780 with the intelligence community
00:14:26.000 to even spread
00:14:27.000 this fallacy
00:14:28.280 about me
00:14:28.960 and a couple other people
00:14:30.280 on the campaign
00:14:31.040 to basically confuse
00:14:32.760 Americans
00:14:33.340 to rush
00:14:34.460 what I think
00:14:35.280 was an impeachment
00:14:35.980 effort of the president.
00:14:37.740 So those are just
00:14:39.720 some of the facts.
00:14:40.960 And also,
00:14:42.460 the only,
00:14:43.200 the lie,
00:14:44.720 if you will,
00:14:45.280 that the FBI
00:14:45.880 charged me with
00:14:46.880 or tried to
00:14:48.200 muscle me into,
00:14:49.960 and that's exactly
00:14:50.820 what happened.
00:14:51.380 I was really muscled
00:14:52.300 into a plea agreement
00:14:54.580 with the FBI
00:14:55.380 after running out
00:14:56.660 of money
00:14:57.300 because I was unable
00:14:58.800 to raise money publicly.
00:15:00.280 It was basically
00:15:01.140 because they said
00:15:01.940 I misremembered
00:15:02.820 when I met
00:15:03.420 Joseph Gibson,
00:15:05.040 and that's actually
00:15:05.620 in the so-called
00:15:06.380 charging document.
00:15:07.620 So those are just
00:15:08.660 some facts,
00:15:09.320 and I think that's
00:15:10.060 exactly why
00:15:10.700 when the president
00:15:11.360 pardoned me,
00:15:12.600 not even Democrat
00:15:13.660 lawmakers
00:15:14.200 or even the media
00:15:15.240 on the left
00:15:15.920 was in an uproar
00:15:17.360 about it,
00:15:17.940 and they all
00:15:18.420 were pretty uniform
00:15:19.660 in their belief
00:15:21.280 that there was
00:15:21.900 some sort of
00:15:22.560 shady behavior
00:15:23.620 done against me
00:15:24.520 and that my pardon
00:15:25.440 was deserved.
00:15:27.920 Well, George,
00:15:28.500 we've never spoken
00:15:29.900 before,
00:15:30.400 we've never met
00:15:30.940 each other,
00:15:31.500 and I think
00:15:32.340 it's pretty clear
00:15:33.140 if somebody
00:15:33.740 actually reads
00:15:35.340 this stuff,
00:15:35.900 and like I mentioned,
00:15:36.580 I was reading it
00:15:37.300 when it was
00:15:38.000 first front page
00:15:40.340 of the news
00:15:40.720 everywhere,
00:15:41.860 especially when you
00:15:42.840 look at the actual
00:15:44.220 details in the
00:15:46.100 Russian dossier,
00:15:47.420 how flimsy it is.
00:15:48.980 Some parts of it
00:15:49.680 look like it was
00:15:50.220 written by a teenager
00:15:51.320 from 4chan or something,
00:15:52.880 the Trump and the
00:15:53.620 hotel stuff,
00:15:54.520 and the prostitutes
00:15:56.560 and all this stuff
00:15:57.380 that's so ridiculous,
00:15:58.640 and to run with that,
00:16:00.080 I mean,
00:16:00.440 there's so many
00:16:00.940 levels here.
00:16:01.900 You've got the
00:16:02.840 Yahoo level,
00:16:03.840 you've got the
00:16:04.260 DNC level,
00:16:05.160 you've got the
00:16:05.600 FBI level,
00:16:06.660 where it takes,
00:16:07.820 I think,
00:16:08.240 some sort of,
00:16:09.300 you have to pretend
00:16:10.560 to take this
00:16:11.640 seriously at some
00:16:12.440 point.
00:16:12.960 So I had a big
00:16:13.920 problem with it,
00:16:14.880 and of course,
00:16:15.520 going forward,
00:16:16.460 people being charged
00:16:17.340 for it,
00:16:17.600 I had a problem
00:16:18.080 with it then.
00:16:19.300 Now, you mentioned
00:16:19.960 off the top
00:16:20.920 about how hard
00:16:21.840 it is for certain
00:16:23.380 people or certain
00:16:24.080 topics,
00:16:24.520 to be found
00:16:25.200 on Google,
00:16:26.460 social media,
00:16:27.180 what have you.
00:16:29.140 All the censorship
00:16:30.580 we're seeing recently,
00:16:32.460 and I've seen you tweet
00:16:33.240 about it a little bit,
00:16:34.300 especially leading up
00:16:35.100 to the inauguration
00:16:36.160 and around election
00:16:37.640 season,
00:16:38.400 where do you think
00:16:39.400 this is going,
00:16:40.600 how far is it going,
00:16:41.880 and where do you
00:16:42.760 see it coming from?
00:16:45.280 Look,
00:16:45.600 the president
00:16:46.260 was very adamant
00:16:48.140 about repealing
00:16:49.180 Section 230,
00:16:50.900 which actually
00:16:51.840 is a provision
00:16:52.540 that allows
00:16:53.380 protection
00:16:54.520 for social media
00:16:55.620 giants like
00:16:56.540 Twitter and Facebook
00:16:58.360 from not having
00:16:59.780 liabilities for
00:17:00.680 what they post,
00:17:01.900 and this was
00:17:02.740 shot down.
00:17:03.580 It just really
00:17:04.260 shows how powerful
00:17:05.860 the social media
00:17:06.800 lobby is
00:17:07.700 against conservative
00:17:09.260 voices,
00:17:09.940 where the president
00:17:10.600 and his efforts,
00:17:11.580 when the Republicans
00:17:12.420 actually held
00:17:13.300 Congress,
00:17:14.080 was unable to
00:17:14.980 repeal this section.
00:17:17.200 Shortly after the
00:17:18.980 win by Joe Biden,
00:17:20.520 we saw what Twitter
00:17:21.340 and Facebook
00:17:21.860 did to the president.
00:17:22.720 Not only was it
00:17:24.280 uncalled for,
00:17:25.020 but I think it
00:17:26.100 sets a dangerous
00:17:26.880 path forward
00:17:27.620 for censorship
00:17:28.740 of both politicians
00:17:30.960 on the right
00:17:31.760 and the left
00:17:32.440 and everyday citizens,
00:17:33.620 where they basically
00:17:34.400 deactivated his accounts
00:17:38.280 on Facebook
00:17:39.020 and Twitter.
00:17:40.100 I think the president
00:17:40.900 had around 85 million
00:17:42.280 followers on Twitter.
00:17:43.680 Who knows how many
00:17:44.620 followers he had
00:17:45.420 on Facebook?
00:17:45.920 and this situation
00:17:48.920 that he found himself
00:17:49.980 in and prominent
00:17:50.720 other conservative
00:17:51.560 voices being suspended,
00:17:54.540 censored,
00:17:55.280 their accounts
00:17:55.720 permanently taken off
00:17:57.000 because they tweeted
00:17:58.220 something that might
00:17:59.480 have offended
00:18:00.020 somebody on the left
00:18:02.520 or, you know,
00:18:03.340 something that Facebook
00:18:04.460 or Twitter says
00:18:05.500 is fake information.
00:18:07.780 Who is really
00:18:09.540 the arbiter of truth?
00:18:10.980 In this country,
00:18:12.080 the Constitution
00:18:12.620 protects your right
00:18:14.380 to free speech,
00:18:15.240 and that should be
00:18:16.020 the arbiter
00:18:16.600 of your, you know,
00:18:18.260 your freedom
00:18:18.760 and your ability
00:18:19.560 to speak whatever
00:18:20.320 you would like to say.
00:18:21.920 But unfortunately,
00:18:22.900 because social media
00:18:24.300 is working hand-in-hand
00:18:26.300 with Democrat lawmakers
00:18:27.460 and likely the Biden
00:18:28.940 administration as a whole,
00:18:30.660 their goal is to now
00:18:31.880 stifle an opponent's
00:18:34.060 viewpoint
00:18:34.880 and conservative voices
00:18:36.180 and I think
00:18:37.060 this is something
00:18:38.060 that we're going to be
00:18:38.780 dealing with
00:18:39.360 for the long term.
00:18:41.580 I mean,
00:18:41.800 they're already,
00:18:42.500 Amazon kicking Parler
00:18:44.120 off its servers.
00:18:45.240 Do you think
00:18:45.720 it goes as far
00:18:46.500 as to internet
00:18:47.640 service providers
00:18:48.760 or even cell phone
00:18:50.160 providers?
00:18:50.640 Do you think
00:18:51.020 it actually
00:18:51.420 will get that far?
00:18:53.600 Look,
00:18:54.180 I know Dan Bongino.
00:18:56.920 He's a good friend
00:18:57.900 of mine
00:18:58.340 and my understanding
00:18:59.700 is that he was,
00:19:00.540 you know,
00:19:00.720 one of the big
00:19:01.360 shareholders of Parler.
00:19:02.920 So I'm following
00:19:03.680 very closely
00:19:04.420 what was going on
00:19:05.420 with Parler
00:19:06.440 and I thought,
00:19:07.240 okay,
00:19:07.400 that's an interesting,
00:19:08.500 you know,
00:19:09.400 way to basically
00:19:11.140 fight back
00:19:12.100 a bit against Twitter,
00:19:13.520 come out
00:19:14.060 and come out
00:19:14.080 with your own
00:19:14.460 platform
00:19:14.940 and then to actually
00:19:15.740 see Google
00:19:16.360 and Apple
00:19:16.940 deplatformed Parler.
00:19:20.120 I did not expect that.
00:19:21.800 I don't think
00:19:22.300 many people expected it
00:19:23.620 and I don't know
00:19:25.200 where this is leading.
00:19:26.260 If it's going to go
00:19:26.900 towards,
00:19:27.480 you know,
00:19:28.200 the mobile
00:19:29.300 companies here as well,
00:19:32.360 I simply don't
00:19:33.160 have that answer.
00:19:34.100 But seeing Parler
00:19:35.600 deplatformed
00:19:36.360 was almost more shocking
00:19:38.480 than seeing the
00:19:39.060 president's account
00:19:39.800 taken off Twitter.
00:19:43.840 Tell the people
00:19:44.860 what is Donald Trump
00:19:46.400 really like in person?
00:19:48.060 Is it what you see
00:19:49.040 is what you get?
00:19:49.860 Which is what most
00:19:50.580 people say.
00:19:52.560 Have you had
00:19:53.400 direct experiences
00:19:54.240 with him?
00:19:56.060 Yeah,
00:19:56.400 so there was
00:19:57.860 this tremendous
00:19:58.960 misunderstanding
00:20:00.480 about my actual
00:20:01.880 role with
00:20:02.940 Donald Trump's
00:20:03.720 campaign,
00:20:04.260 his transition
00:20:04.860 team,
00:20:05.960 and my interactions
00:20:07.100 with him
00:20:07.660 and my contributions
00:20:08.720 to his campaign
00:20:10.180 because this vacuum
00:20:11.920 had emerged
00:20:12.720 where I was
00:20:13.820 unable to actually
00:20:14.680 speak for a couple
00:20:15.940 years and it
00:20:16.720 allowed
00:20:17.180 brifters
00:20:19.220 and,
00:20:19.820 you know,
00:20:20.600 nobodies essentially
00:20:21.600 who weren't even
00:20:22.260 part of the campaign
00:20:23.900 or knew anything
00:20:24.560 about me
00:20:25.160 to actually go
00:20:25.940 public and to
00:20:26.680 talk about me
00:20:27.500 as if they knew
00:20:28.800 about me.
00:20:29.400 And that's where
00:20:29.900 this Michael Caputo
00:20:31.180 guy came out
00:20:32.020 of nowhere
00:20:32.500 and he starts
00:20:33.160 talking about me
00:20:34.540 and others.
00:20:35.100 So that's probably,
00:20:35.800 you know,
00:20:36.000 some of those
00:20:36.380 viral clips.
00:20:37.540 Is that the Fox
00:20:38.420 host?
00:20:39.720 No,
00:20:40.160 this was a,
00:20:40.860 this is the guy
00:20:42.220 who said,
00:20:42.580 oh,
00:20:42.680 he's the coffee
00:20:43.300 guy,
00:20:43.740 the coffee boy.
00:20:45.040 So this person,
00:20:46.220 Michael Caputo,
00:20:47.000 just to be clear
00:20:47.940 to all your viewers,
00:20:48.920 was fired
00:20:49.640 from the campaign
00:20:51.380 in the summer
00:20:51.940 of 2015
00:20:52.740 and I joined
00:20:53.540 the campaign
00:20:54.020 in the spring
00:20:54.600 of 2016.
00:20:56.260 So of course
00:20:56.800 we had zero
00:20:57.480 overlap with one
00:20:58.500 another
00:20:58.840 and he was
00:21:00.140 basically the voice
00:21:01.240 about who George
00:21:02.240 was,
00:21:03.000 what his contribution
00:21:03.780 for him.
00:21:04.580 So we were really
00:21:05.840 in this,
00:21:06.880 I was in this
00:21:07.880 very bizarre moment
00:21:09.140 where I saw
00:21:09.980 myself discredited
00:21:11.120 and destroyed
00:21:11.700 publicly by people
00:21:12.760 who I never even
00:21:13.660 spoke to.
00:21:14.240 But Donald Trump
00:21:15.440 is a person
00:21:16.600 who listens
00:21:17.160 more than he talks.
00:21:18.180 He knows what he knows
00:21:19.100 and he knows
00:21:19.540 what he doesn't
00:21:20.400 and he wants
00:21:21.260 competing views
00:21:22.120 in the room.
00:21:23.040 That's why he always
00:21:24.000 has people
00:21:24.700 that he knows
00:21:25.580 he can choose
00:21:26.640 that will have
00:21:27.200 an impotent
00:21:27.880 type of viewpoint
00:21:28.880 and then he'll
00:21:29.520 decide at the end
00:21:30.380 what the best choice
00:21:31.620 is, not only
00:21:32.120 for his campaign
00:21:32.840 but for the country
00:21:33.740 first and foremost.
00:21:35.640 President Trump
00:21:36.360 was a person
00:21:37.680 who was not
00:21:38.500 the bombastic
00:21:39.500 person that you
00:21:40.720 would see on television.
00:21:41.860 He was very measured
00:21:42.700 and reserved
00:21:43.240 and private.
00:21:44.200 That's something
00:21:44.760 that the people
00:21:45.620 never saw
00:21:46.400 because the media
00:21:47.300 wanted to paint him
00:21:48.280 as this unhinged
00:21:50.320 person
00:21:51.020 who was,
00:21:51.840 you know,
00:21:52.100 somewhat of a danger
00:21:53.200 to society
00:21:54.020 when in reality
00:21:55.400 I always tell people
00:21:57.460 look at his policies.
00:21:58.740 His policies
00:21:59.280 impacted the United States
00:22:00.540 and the world
00:22:01.500 far better
00:22:02.060 than any president
00:22:02.960 in my opinion
00:22:03.700 in modern history
00:22:04.580 and an unhinged
00:22:06.380 president
00:22:07.040 would not have
00:22:07.880 had those type
00:22:08.660 of successes
00:22:09.220 on the policy front.
00:22:11.060 Should he have
00:22:11.720 spoken differently?
00:22:12.980 Absolutely.
00:22:14.060 We could all
00:22:14.920 speak differently
00:22:15.560 but hindsight's going to play.
00:22:17.520 Besides that,
00:22:18.780 the president
00:22:19.300 is a success
00:22:20.500 on and off the field
00:22:21.660 as they say
00:22:22.300 and I think
00:22:22.920 he did a tremendous job
00:22:24.240 for the American people
00:22:25.980 and for stability
00:22:27.040 around the world.
00:22:28.240 Yeah,
00:22:28.620 what I've been seeing lately
00:22:29.600 is the only person,
00:22:31.060 the only president
00:22:31.740 to enact more policy
00:22:33.700 quicker than Donald Trump
00:22:35.220 is Joe Biden.
00:22:36.200 It just so happens
00:22:36.900 that his policies
00:22:37.680 are terrible
00:22:38.460 with all the
00:22:40.020 executive orders
00:22:41.620 he's doing.
00:22:42.180 Now,
00:22:42.300 you mentioned earlier
00:22:43.620 about how Trump
00:22:46.100 was trying to repeal
00:22:46.820 Section 230
00:22:47.500 and even when they
00:22:48.400 control the Senate
00:22:50.580 and the House,
00:22:51.220 they're not able
00:22:53.980 to push it through.
00:22:55.200 Now,
00:22:55.840 I don't know about you
00:22:56.600 but at least
00:22:57.260 where I am in Canada
00:22:58.120 there's not really
00:22:59.120 any politicians
00:22:59.880 that I'm able to trust.
00:23:01.120 When I look at
00:23:01.540 the United States
00:23:02.360 there are a few
00:23:03.600 that I mean
00:23:05.360 I don't personally
00:23:06.100 trust them,
00:23:06.560 I don't know them
00:23:07.120 but that I can,
00:23:08.520 I think that I can rely on
00:23:10.060 to try to do
00:23:10.860 what's right.
00:23:11.840 I mean,
00:23:13.060 I won't start naming names
00:23:15.320 that's kind of pointless
00:23:16.760 but is there,
00:23:18.100 no,
00:23:18.480 I'm going to ask you
00:23:19.000 so I'll name some names.
00:23:21.500 I think I trust
00:23:22.360 Ted Cruz,
00:23:23.260 I think I trust
00:23:24.020 Hockley,
00:23:24.980 I think
00:23:25.500 sometimes you can
00:23:28.540 trust Rubio
00:23:29.260 but you know,
00:23:30.060 there's some people
00:23:30.980 that I can say
00:23:34.260 that I'm looking forward
00:23:35.380 to what they might do
00:23:36.380 against Biden.
00:23:37.520 Who do you think
00:23:38.240 that people should trust
00:23:39.220 in the government
00:23:39.740 right now
00:23:40.320 to try to carry on
00:23:41.460 the sort of pathway
00:23:42.460 that Trump was carving,
00:23:43.820 something that's good
00:23:44.460 for America
00:23:45.040 and aren't just
00:23:45.960 going to fold
00:23:46.880 right away
00:23:47.500 when let's say
00:23:49.100 social media
00:23:49.740 comes after them
00:23:50.580 or cancel culture
00:23:51.360 comes after them.
00:23:52.100 So who do you like
00:23:53.560 and who do you think
00:23:54.120 the people should trust?
00:23:56.140 Well,
00:23:56.660 first of all,
00:23:57.460 you mentioned
00:23:57.980 Canadian politicians
00:23:59.540 and Biden.
00:24:00.600 Well,
00:24:01.120 Biden has successfully
00:24:02.380 actually unnerved
00:24:04.060 Canada's prime minister
00:24:05.440 which I never thought
00:24:06.760 would be possible.
00:24:08.220 I thought they were
00:24:08.840 going to have this bromance
00:24:10.080 right outside the gate
00:24:11.780 but it looks like
00:24:12.660 after he cancelled
00:24:13.400 the Keystone pipeline
00:24:14.340 there's going to be
00:24:14.940 some sort of
00:24:15.520 tension between
00:24:16.780 the U.S. and Canada
00:24:17.780 which no one
00:24:19.360 really saw coming.
00:24:21.080 And,
00:24:21.200 you know,
00:24:21.660 regarding the
00:24:22.440 who I think
00:24:23.280 essentially you're asking
00:24:24.140 is who can take on
00:24:25.080 the mantle
00:24:25.580 of leadership
00:24:26.740 of the America First
00:24:27.820 movement.
00:24:29.120 I think
00:24:29.740 that there are
00:24:30.860 many
00:24:31.360 Republican
00:24:32.680 officials
00:24:33.760 who
00:24:34.420 really think
00:24:35.680 that Donald Trump
00:24:36.540 was an aberration
00:24:37.760 that he did not
00:24:39.540 represent
00:24:40.060 the Republican Party
00:24:41.340 and that he's a threat
00:24:42.340 to their own
00:24:43.120 power
00:24:43.900 and that's
00:24:44.780 anathema
00:24:45.500 to actually
00:24:47.100 what a
00:24:48.300 congressman
00:24:49.440 or a senator
00:24:49.960 should be looking after.
00:24:51.260 What a member
00:24:52.200 of Congress
00:24:52.680 should be
00:24:53.320 focused on
00:24:54.260 is listening
00:24:54.800 to his or her
00:24:55.600 constituency.
00:24:57.160 Americans
00:24:57.620 voted
00:24:58.320 with 75 million
00:25:00.240 people
00:25:00.860 for Donald Trump
00:25:01.840 and his
00:25:02.780 America First
00:25:03.500 agenda
00:25:03.940 and his
00:25:04.840 economic
00:25:05.260 nationalism
00:25:05.880 if you will.
00:25:06.980 This was the
00:25:07.400 second most
00:25:08.000 on record
00:25:08.680 behind Joe Biden's
00:25:10.560 vote tally
00:25:11.440 which has
00:25:12.600 been contested
00:25:13.460 and I think
00:25:13.840 is going to
00:25:14.200 continue to be
00:25:14.900 contested
00:25:15.540 through the
00:25:16.360 midterms
00:25:16.820 in this country.
00:25:17.860 You did also
00:25:18.560 see people
00:25:19.660 like Ted Cruz,
00:25:20.660 Josh Hawley
00:25:21.240 as you mentioned
00:25:21.900 who did stand
00:25:22.980 up and say
00:25:23.800 that we did
00:25:24.520 see some
00:25:24.980 irregularities
00:25:25.780 in this
00:25:26.260 vote in this
00:25:27.160 election.
00:25:27.560 we're not
00:25:28.860 conspiracy theorists
00:25:29.900 we just
00:25:30.280 simply want
00:25:31.000 to present
00:25:31.400 a case
00:25:31.860 in front
00:25:32.140 of courts.
00:25:33.300 Courts
00:25:33.460 actually never
00:25:34.020 listened to
00:25:34.580 the cases
00:25:35.040 and I think
00:25:35.500 that really
00:25:36.100 unnerved
00:25:37.620 a lot of
00:25:38.080 people
00:25:38.480 to say
00:25:39.140 why are you
00:25:40.140 so afraid
00:25:40.580 of just
00:25:40.860 listening
00:25:41.140 to the
00:25:41.460 evidence
00:25:41.860 this is
00:25:42.620 the U.S.
00:25:43.780 presidential
00:25:44.100 election
00:25:44.660 we shouldn't
00:25:45.480 have question
00:25:46.060 marks
00:25:46.400 at the end
00:25:46.840 of it
00:25:47.180 and unfortunately
00:25:48.180 based on
00:25:48.900 how the
00:25:49.240 courts
00:25:49.620 responded
00:25:50.780 and how
00:25:51.200 the media
00:25:51.620 tried to
00:25:52.080 portray
00:25:52.600 Josh Hawley
00:25:53.720 Ted Cruz
00:25:54.520 Rudy Giuliani
00:25:55.400 even the
00:25:56.160 president
00:25:56.520 as conspiracy
00:25:57.340 theorists
00:25:57.900 it really
00:25:58.740 I think
00:25:59.580 created more
00:26:00.460 division
00:26:00.940 than unity
00:26:01.540 and it
00:26:02.180 allowed
00:26:02.560 this space
00:26:03.760 for conspiracy
00:26:04.620 theories that
00:26:05.260 really should
00:26:05.740 have never
00:26:06.100 existed
00:26:06.540 should there
00:26:07.560 have been
00:26:07.940 a simple
00:26:08.580 hearing in
00:26:09.480 front of the
00:26:09.800 Supreme Court
00:26:10.520 or other
00:26:11.360 courts to
00:26:11.960 listen to
00:26:12.340 the evidence
00:26:12.820 and if the
00:26:13.320 courts decided
00:26:14.200 that the
00:26:14.560 evidence
00:26:14.960 did not
00:26:15.580 amount to
00:26:16.120 anything
00:26:16.340 they could
00:26:16.700 have threw
00:26:16.980 them out
00:26:17.440 now that's
00:26:18.780 what happened
00:26:19.340 I think
00:26:19.920 that there
00:26:20.300 are only a
00:26:20.780 few
00:26:21.120 Republican
00:26:21.700 members of
00:26:22.700 Congress
00:26:23.060 today who
00:26:23.540 do have
00:26:24.180 the nationwide
00:26:25.300 appeal that
00:26:26.460 could actually
00:26:26.900 probably
00:26:27.460 galvanize
00:26:28.520 the base
00:26:29.800 the way
00:26:30.060 that Donald
00:26:30.420 Trump did
00:26:30.840 that's
00:26:31.140 somebody like
00:26:31.820 possibly
00:26:32.520 Matt
00:26:32.840 Gates
00:26:33.180 he's a
00:26:33.540 young
00:26:33.840 person out
00:26:34.820 of Florida
00:26:35.340 I know
00:26:35.880 him
00:26:36.140 very
00:26:37.100 articulate
00:26:37.820 Ted Cruz
00:26:39.220 as well
00:26:39.680 he's taken
00:26:40.080 on more
00:26:40.480 of a
00:26:40.700 tough
00:26:40.920 value
00:26:41.180 approach
00:26:41.720 since
00:26:42.380 the
00:26:42.540 2016
00:26:43.340 presidential
00:26:43.960 election
00:26:44.480 which I
00:26:44.860 think
00:26:45.020 really
00:26:45.320 benefited
00:26:46.320 him
00:26:46.680 and
00:26:47.480 Josh
00:26:47.900 Howley
00:26:48.280 is
00:26:48.420 another
00:26:48.760 young
00:26:49.660 senator
00:26:50.940 out of
00:26:51.380 Missouri
00:26:51.760 articulate
00:26:52.480 Yale
00:26:53.320 law
00:26:53.660 school
00:26:54.060 who's
00:26:54.860 trying
00:26:55.060 to take
00:26:55.440 on this
00:26:55.880 tough
00:26:56.140 guy
00:26:56.340 approach
00:26:56.780 which I
00:26:57.180 really
00:26:57.400 think
00:26:57.740 if you
00:26:58.460 want to
00:26:58.800 live in
00:26:59.260 Donald
00:26:59.580 Trump's
00:27:00.000 Republican
00:27:00.400 party
00:27:00.800 you need
00:27:01.240 to be
00:27:01.520 a tough
00:27:01.880 guy
00:27:02.220 you need
00:27:02.940 to present
00:27:03.480 a tough
00:27:03.920 guy
00:27:04.240 approach
00:27:05.240 and that's
00:27:06.500 what's going
00:27:06.920 to really
00:27:07.260 probably help
00:27:08.740 them moving
00:27:09.160 forward so I
00:27:09.940 think those are
00:27:10.400 the three to look
00:27:11.080 out for moving
00:27:11.680 forward
00:27:12.040 yeah I was
00:27:13.120 going to just
00:27:13.800 mention Gates
00:27:14.940 I was thinking
00:27:15.740 of them while you
00:27:16.280 were talking
00:27:16.560 there and now
00:27:17.180 Sarah Sanders
00:27:18.200 is running for
00:27:18.800 governor so
00:27:19.440 hopefully she
00:27:20.600 can bring some
00:27:21.240 of that
00:27:21.600 enthusiasm with
00:27:22.520 her last
00:27:22.860 question George
00:27:23.440 before I let
00:27:23.920 you go
00:27:24.260 so when we
00:27:25.460 talk about
00:27:25.920 the QAnon
00:27:26.660 followers
00:27:27.120 obviously a lot
00:27:29.340 of them have
00:27:29.700 been booted
00:27:30.240 off of line
00:27:30.960 do you think
00:27:31.800 that these
00:27:32.440 people are
00:27:32.800 going anywhere
00:27:33.500 do you think
00:27:34.040 it's they're
00:27:34.800 being they're
00:27:35.400 just gonna be
00:27:35.900 shunned until
00:27:36.440 they take on
00:27:36.960 another name
00:27:37.460 what are your
00:27:38.020 thoughts on all
00:27:38.680 this moving
00:27:39.140 forward and
00:27:40.300 obviously I've
00:27:42.280 never seen you
00:27:42.820 advocate for
00:27:43.540 them or anything
00:27:44.080 but just what
00:27:45.080 do you think
00:27:45.620 this type of
00:27:47.140 thinking
00:27:47.540 conspiratorial
00:27:48.940 you know the
00:27:49.520 real hope that
00:27:50.400 something is
00:27:51.340 something huge
00:27:53.140 is happening
00:27:53.540 you guys and
00:27:54.080 it just didn't
00:27:54.540 come where do
00:27:55.040 you think these
00:27:55.540 ideas and these
00:27:56.340 people are gonna
00:27:56.820 be pushed to
00:27:57.500 yeah so first
00:27:59.780 and foremost I
00:28:00.600 don't subscribe to
00:28:01.620 the Q phenomenon
00:28:02.940 I know nothing
00:28:03.880 about it and I
00:28:04.760 don't advocate for
00:28:05.800 the Q followers
00:28:06.680 but the only thing
00:28:08.440 that I know is
00:28:10.680 that the president
00:28:11.480 and some in his
00:28:13.460 administration and
00:28:14.480 others on social
00:28:15.300 media you know
00:28:16.280 we're talking about
00:28:17.660 wait for something
00:28:19.140 to come we have
00:28:20.000 a big news
00:28:20.640 coming or this
00:28:21.440 is happening
00:28:21.980 and I don't
00:28:23.600 they're not
00:28:24.860 responsible for
00:28:25.840 giving false
00:28:26.420 hope that's not
00:28:27.080 what I'm saying
00:28:27.540 at all but I
00:28:28.560 think just based
00:28:29.260 on some rhetoric
00:28:30.200 from people in
00:28:31.380 the administration
00:28:32.080 you did see
00:28:33.040 some you know
00:28:34.160 conspiracy type
00:28:35.340 personalities around
00:28:36.440 America and the
00:28:37.200 world taking
00:28:38.220 that and
00:28:39.540 interpreting it
00:28:40.780 the wrong way
00:28:41.480 the president
00:28:42.440 never advocated
00:28:43.400 for violence
00:28:44.120 no one in his
00:28:44.980 administration
00:28:45.580 advocated for
00:28:46.400 violence or
00:28:47.280 offending the
00:28:48.260 constitution or
00:28:49.160 overturning the
00:28:50.280 election results
00:28:51.140 with violence
00:28:52.520 but some people
00:28:53.480 in this movement
00:28:54.480 decided to take
00:28:56.380 it upon themselves
00:28:57.200 to then storm
00:28:58.000 the Capitol
00:28:58.580 and to try and
00:29:00.400 you know undo
00:29:01.040 the election
00:29:02.340 which is something
00:29:03.040 that was unheard
00:29:04.040 of and it was
00:29:04.640 just not a good
00:29:06.240 movement it was
00:29:06.760 unpatriotic
00:29:07.420 on the other
00:29:09.080 hand as I
00:29:10.160 mentioned earlier
00:29:10.900 because the
00:29:12.700 cases were never
00:29:13.640 allowed to be
00:29:14.280 presented in front
00:29:15.220 of courts that
00:29:16.300 would allow you
00:29:18.080 the evidence
00:29:18.640 presented that
00:29:19.520 would basically
00:29:20.240 deflate any of
00:29:21.980 these conspiracy
00:29:22.600 theories about
00:29:23.840 that the election
00:29:24.740 was illegal or
00:29:26.480 stolen it allowed
00:29:28.180 this vacuum to
00:29:29.040 emerge where the
00:29:30.660 conspiracy type
00:29:32.580 personalities around
00:29:33.660 America and the
00:29:34.460 world were fed
00:29:36.180 and emboldened
00:29:36.860 and said you know
00:29:37.620 what look they're
00:29:38.280 not listening to
00:29:39.000 it it was stolen
00:29:40.200 and the only way
00:29:40.840 to take our
00:29:41.420 country back is
00:29:42.220 through violence
00:29:43.300 it's of course
00:29:43.940 something that I
00:29:44.500 don't approve of
00:29:46.340 and I never
00:29:46.740 did so that's
00:29:48.160 the only thing
00:29:48.980 that I see
00:29:49.940 that happened
00:29:50.640 with this
00:29:51.240 movement
00:29:51.780 obviously Twitter
00:29:53.660 has decided that
00:29:54.620 they are the
00:29:55.100 arbiter of free
00:29:55.960 speech and
00:29:56.460 anybody who
00:29:57.280 espouses or
00:29:59.060 supports this
00:30:00.580 movement has
00:30:01.340 been censored
00:30:02.560 and taken off
00:30:04.120 Twitter
00:30:04.460 my opinion is
00:30:05.820 simply this
00:30:06.480 everybody has
00:30:07.500 the right to
00:30:07.980 free speech as
00:30:08.740 long as it
00:30:09.140 doesn't cross
00:30:09.700 the threshold
00:30:10.260 of violence
00:30:10.900 violence and
00:30:11.760 I don't think
00:30:12.800 that this
00:30:14.100 movement is a
00:30:14.900 violent movement
00:30:15.800 that's my
00:30:16.860 understanding of
00:30:17.580 it and as long
00:30:18.600 as it stays
00:30:19.380 non-violent
00:30:20.100 then I don't
00:30:20.920 think anybody
00:30:21.460 should be
00:30:22.000 censoring
00:30:22.420 anybody's
00:30:22.900 opinion
00:30:23.220 no I
00:30:24.340 definitely 100%
00:30:25.300 agree with you
00:30:25.840 on free speech
00:30:27.040 and like I
00:30:28.500 mentioned before
00:30:29.160 I followed your
00:30:30.060 story for I
00:30:31.460 guess years now
00:30:32.340 it's hard to
00:30:32.860 believe that it's
00:30:33.400 been like what
00:30:34.520 almost six years
00:30:36.160 five years
00:30:36.800 it's crazy and
00:30:38.160 I'm glad I got
00:30:38.720 to speak to you
00:30:39.380 it was sort of a
00:30:40.600 long time hope
00:30:42.280 for me so
00:30:42.980 George Papa 19
00:30:44.140 on Twitter
00:30:45.240 Deep State Target
00:30:46.400 book is available
00:30:47.300 everywhere you buy
00:30:48.200 books last words
00:30:49.160 to you George
00:30:49.760 thank you so much
00:30:52.060 for having me this
00:30:52.980 is my first
00:30:53.700 interview with
00:30:54.760 with Canada
00:30:55.960 and speaking I
00:30:57.380 guess directly I
00:30:58.080 know you have a
00:30:58.480 global audience but
00:30:59.640 it's a great
00:31:00.680 opportunity to talk
00:31:02.120 directly to the
00:31:02.720 Canadian people and
00:31:03.920 let's stay tuned
00:31:05.160 to see what Biden
00:31:06.260 brings for a
00:31:07.380 US Canada
00:31:08.020 relationship I
00:31:08.900 think it's going
00:31:09.440 to be more
00:31:09.880 fireworks than
00:31:10.960 stability so
00:31:14.060 thanks so much
00:31:14.660 again
00:31:14.900 all right thanks
00:31:15.740 a lot one
00:31:16.300 pipeline's okay
00:31:17.200 two is not I
00:31:18.080 guess they're
00:31:18.880 even though they
00:31:19.380 have a great
00:31:19.760 exchange
00:31:20.080 all right thanks
00:31:21.080 a lot George
00:31:21.580 have a good
00:31:21.980 night
00:31:22.220 thanks so much
00:31:23.500 thanks so much
00:31:24.000 thank you so much
00:31:24.080 thank you so much
00:31:24.100 you