Rebel News Podcast - August 04, 2020


Get ready for mandatory COVID-19 vaccines


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

Words per Minute

158.91888

Word Count

5,676

Sentence Count

431

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

Vaccines are going to be made mandatory in Canada, aren t they? And what will happen to those who refuse to take them? What will happen if they're forced to do so? Is that too much to ask for?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, what do you think about those 37 million syringes? That's one for every Canadian.
00:00:05.040 How do you feel about taking a made-in-China vaccine? How do you feel about giving it to
00:00:09.020 kids who simply don't get the coronavirus? I think that's going to be the big push.
00:00:13.880 Justin Trudeau is the perfect globalist. I think it's the UN plus Theresa Tam plus Bill Gates
00:00:19.180 plus the pharmaceutical companies plus the People's Liberation of China. They want you to get
00:00:24.480 jabbed. Yeah, not without informed consent. That's my view. Is that too anti-vaxxer to me? Is that too
00:00:33.060 radical? Let me make my case. That's the subject of today's podcast. Pardon me. Oh my God, I got the
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00:00:57.240 version of the podcast. I have this clip from a national film board movie called Outbreak. There's
00:01:02.540 two clips I show. I really want you to see it. You'll get the gist of it by listening, but I really
00:01:07.520 wish you could see it. You can see it on Rebel News Plus because that's the video version. Okay,
00:01:12.440 here's today's podcast.
00:01:22.800 Tonight, virus vaccines are going to be made mandatory, aren't they? It's August 3rd,
00:01:33.840 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:37.540 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:41.280 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:45.300 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
00:01:49.940 bloody right to do so. Did you watch our coverage of the Independent Press Gallery's
00:01:59.160 conservative leadership debate the other night? Leslyn Lewis said she had an earache,
00:02:03.540 so she pulled out at the last minute, and then Peter McKay used that as an excuse to drop out
00:02:08.480 too, so it turned into a calmer affair. Not a debate, but two fireside chats in a row,
00:02:13.320 hosted by our friend Andrew Lawton. Tell you the truth, I thought that fireside chat format was
00:02:17.620 excellent, because Andrew Lawton did such a good job of it. It was actually a great night,
00:02:23.340 and because it was the first Independent Press Gallery event, there's not a government press
00:02:29.340 gallery event, we were allowed to join. And so all of our reporters were there, and they all had
00:02:34.640 questions for the candidates. It was a great evening. Let me show you one question and answer.
00:02:39.140 It's by our newest reporter, Drea Humphrey. She flew in from B.C., and unfortunately,
00:02:44.580 the clock ran out, so Drea didn't get a chance to pose a follow-up question, but listen to this one.
00:02:50.000 Hi, thanks so much for being here tonight. I'm Drea Humphrey with Rebel News, and my question for
00:02:55.680 you today is, if vaccines do end up becoming mandated by Justin Trudeau or health authorities,
00:03:02.880 what do you think will happen and should happen to those who refuse to take the vaccine?
00:03:08.320 Well, I think, you know, people should never be forced to do anything in a modern democratic
00:03:15.700 society. What I think we haven't had in Canada is a proper and responsible debate on a whole range of
00:03:22.020 things, including masks. In fact, you know, Derek was attacked for questioning the chief public health
00:03:27.940 officer. I was critical of the Trudeau government for not talking and debating about masks. The vaccine
00:03:34.440 issue will be even more important, where people will have to see the evidence, see the clinical
00:03:41.520 studies, and be able to make a decision. With rights and responsibilities, that gives free choice,
00:03:48.280 which I defend and support. But it may, as people make that choice, there may be responsibilities that
00:03:54.080 flow from it that limit their ability in some circumstances. If we're in a second wave or major
00:04:01.620 social distancing decisions come back, we will have to weigh how many people have been
00:04:07.500 immunized to see if we have a herd immunity approach. I try and study the science, but I think in a
00:04:15.080 democratic society like us, like ours, there is not a forcing of anything on anyone.
00:04:21.700 Good question. And a vague answer. Of course, Aaron O'Toole is not going to say he's for forcible
00:04:27.420 vaccines. Imagine police literally holding someone down and jabbing a needle into them with some
00:04:32.720 serum made in China. Because you know, about 90% of our meds are made in China these days. And
00:04:38.740 bizarrely, Trudeau just signed a contract with CanSino. CanSino? I don't know how to say it.
00:04:43.860 It's a Chinese company affiliated with the People's Liberation Army. So we've contracted with the
00:04:49.660 Chinese army to pay them to do research on a vaccine. And believe it or not, part of Canada's deal
00:04:55.480 is that we're going to have Canadians in Nova Scotia be the human guinea pigs to test this
00:05:01.080 vaccine. Yeah, what could go wrong with that? We're literally paying the Chinese military to
00:05:05.420 make vaccines and we're going to test it on Canadians. Did you know that Trudeau has already
00:05:08.920 bought 37 million syringes, which just happens to work out to exactly one syringe per person in
00:05:14.840 Canada, even for babies? So yeah, what do you think is coming? A made in China vaccine that will be
00:05:22.140 given to 37 million of us. So Aaron O'Toole said he believed in consent, but he didn't explain what
00:05:27.020 consequences there would be for people who did not consent to the vaccine. He didn't say what he
00:05:31.700 thought Trudeau would do. And he didn't say what he himself would do if he were in charge. And it's
00:05:36.360 not an idle question. Here's Theresa Tam, Canada's public health doctor, who has blundered through the
00:05:42.160 pandemic, flip-flopping on every issue from masks to borders, blaming everyone as racist, if they were
00:05:47.480 even worried at first. And throughout it all, obeying her masters at the World Health Organization,
00:05:51.800 where she has worked throughout this whole crisis. Unbelievable conflict of interest. But here she
00:05:56.240 is a few years back in a National Film Board movie, talking about a hypothetical pandemic and what she
00:06:02.640 thinks would happen. Listen to this. I think the public has to know this is one of the worst case
00:06:09.140 scenarios in terms of an infectious disease outbreak in that their cooperation is sought. If there are
00:06:15.780 people who are non-compliant, there are definitely laws and public health powers that can quarantine
00:06:23.940 people in mandatory settings. It's potential you could track people, put bracelets on their arms,
00:06:32.420 have police and other setups to ensure quarantine is undertaken.
00:06:37.460 It is better to be preemptive and precautionary and take the heat of people thinking you might be
00:06:51.540 overreactionary, get ahead of the curve, and then think about whether you've overreacted later. But it's
00:06:59.300 such a serious situation that I think decisive early action is the key.
00:07:04.340 So jail for people who don't take vaccines, trackable bracelets, police and handcuffs stuff. So
00:07:10.500 like Erin O'Toole says, you're not forced to take a vaccine. You're just thrown in jail if you don't.
00:07:15.860 Your choice, mate, jail or vaccine. I actually watched that whole National Film Board movie.
00:07:21.140 It's called Outbreak. I have to say, I like the movie. It was very interesting to me because it had
00:07:27.060 a creative idea. Juxtapose a historian's telling of the great epidemic in Montreal, 135 years ago,
00:07:34.180 with smallpox, with what would happen if an outbreak of smallpox would happen today. So the history part
00:07:41.460 was just plain interesting. I didn't know about that smallpox epidemic of 1885. And the today part was
00:07:46.580 interesting is the thought experience, which is what it was when the movie was made. But it was
00:07:51.300 twice as interesting given that we're living through it actually now. And what happened in real
00:07:55.780 life was in many ways worse than the scenario in the National Film Board movie, because it's never
00:08:01.860 ending. In the movie, it ended. But here's our own Drea Humphrey making a very interesting point.
00:08:08.740 But if the measure of wearing a mask when you're healthy is simply because of a what if in the
00:08:16.340 future, in particular the upcoming flu season, doesn't that mean we would always be wearing
00:08:22.020 a mask for what if? It makes you wonder since none of these bylaws have an end date on them.
00:08:28.180 That's a good point, isn't it? The mask bylaws we have now, they're not necessary. The pandemic's over,
00:08:33.460 statistically speaking. They're not even being justified as being necessary. They're
00:08:37.620 preventative now, but they have no end date. There is no end. It's a permanent panic,
00:08:44.260 or at least long enough to tide us over until some hasty vaccine from the People's Liberation
00:08:49.220 Army is ready to be stuck in your arm. Yeah, you go first, Justin. Let's see you poke that made-in
00:08:54.820 china needle into your own dear children's arm first before I do. Actually, I don't want to see that
00:08:59.860 because I bear no malice towards Trudeau's children. I don't want them to be guinea pigs either.
00:09:04.820 And luckily, children don't get the coronavirus. I mean, they can carry the virus, but they don't usually
00:09:09.940 get sick from it. And in a country of 37 million people, with about 10 million people who are either
00:09:16.500 babies or kids or teenagers, about 10 million, a grand total of one child has died from the virus.
00:09:23.620 And they had a terminal illness to begin with. One out of 10 million. So the odds of dying as a child
00:09:29.700 from the coronavirus is one in 10 million, if at all. You have a greater chance of dying from
00:09:36.020 lightning, greater chance of dying from a bear attack or some extremely unlikely event. One
00:09:42.020 in 10 million. In fact, I wouldn't even say that it's that high because that one kid was already
00:09:47.380 dying from something else, I'm sorry to say. Do you think that a virus vaccine hastily concocted
00:09:53.060 by China's People's Liberation Army and jabbed into 10 million arms of Canadian kids, do you think
00:09:58.660 they will have fewer than a one in 10 million chance of causing a side effect? Yeah. You use a
00:10:04.820 vaccine to protect yourself from risk. That's the whole point. But there is no risk to children.
00:10:10.900 None. One in 10 million, if you want to be precise. But why would you inject something cooked up by the
00:10:17.140 Chinese government's army into your arm if there's no risk for you? Why would you do it to anyone,
00:10:22.260 let alone a kid? Not even 9,000 deaths of any age in Canada from the virus. That's the same as the
00:10:28.180 average annual deaths from the flu and pneumonia. Despite Theresa Tam predicting up to 350,000 deaths,
00:10:34.180 she's not good at predictions. But you heard her. She likes to overreact. She likes to use a sledgehammer
00:10:40.100 on other people, not herself. Here's the historian from that documentary, Michael Bliss, in an article
00:10:46.500 writing about how the smallpox vaccine was tried on Montrealers back in 1885
00:10:51.620 during the epidemic. Let me read from the Globe and Mail. In 1885, public health officials in
00:10:57.860 Montreal, then Canada's largest city, tried to stop a small outbreak of smallpox by offering
00:11:03.620 extensive public vaccination. There was a tradition of suspicion about vaccination in Quebec,
00:11:09.220 a tendency to take smallpox for granted as one of the many diseases sent by God to punish sinners.
00:11:14.580 When the first vaccines used in Montreal turned out to be contaminated, causing cases of erysipelas,
00:11:22.580 fear the vaccine became greater than fear of smallpox. Hey guys, totally safe, trust us.
00:11:29.940 So yeah, mandatory vaccines. Look at this from that same movie, Outbreak, by the National
00:11:34.740 Film Board. Though all the powerful voices, including the Catholic Church, are calling for
00:11:57.540 compulsory vaccination. Many in the streets are prepared to resist.
00:12:05.300 September 28th. Angry crowds assemble in front of the health office on St. Catherine Street.
00:12:11.620 Speeches are made. The crowd applauds and jeers at the authorities.
00:12:18.740 Someone casts the first stone. One of the health office windows shatters. And the others.
00:12:27.540 After half an hour, a cry goes up, Al'Hotel de Ville, to City Hall.
00:12:35.940 The crowd, a thousand strong, heads off down St. Catherine Street, stoning all front windows.
00:12:41.700 Then masses in front of City Hall, shouting, Down with compulsory vaccination!
00:12:47.940 All the police in the building are issued rifles with bayonets.
00:12:50.580 The chief of police arrives at last, orders the rifles put away, and organizes sallies of club-wielding
00:12:58.100 policemen who gradually drive off the angry crowd.
00:13:05.140 By one in the morning, the rioters have fled, and the city is quiet again.
00:13:09.300 Now in the end, about 3,000 people died from smallpox in that 1885 epidemic in Montreal.
00:13:18.820 But remember, that's out of a total population back then of around 200,000 people.
00:13:24.580 So that is a huge death toll. If you extrapolate that to the size of Canada today, it would be like
00:13:31.460 half a million Canadians dying out of 37 million. So it would be a huge tragedy.
00:13:36.500 It would be worse even than Theresa Tam's worst predictions. But in fact, fewer than 9,000
00:13:41.380 Canadians have died from the coronavirus, same as the average flu season. There were riots back then
00:13:46.980 in Montreal against mandatory vaccinations. And as the contaminated vaccine story shows,
00:13:53.300 the riots were not baseless. Don't jab me with your needle. But at least back then,
00:13:58.980 the authorities had an excuse. The smallpox plague was truly devastating. Imagine half a million dead
00:14:05.460 Canadians today. That's what proportionally happened to Montreal in 1885. But Canada in 2020, 9,000. And
00:14:13.300 outside of Ontario and Quebec, really, outside of seniors' homes and foreign migrant farm laborer
00:14:19.940 bunkhouses, there hasn't even been a pandemic. I'm sorry, you cannot call 194 deceased people in all of
00:14:28.180 British Columbia. 5 million people. I'm sorry, you can't call that a pandemic. Average age of the
00:14:34.420 deceased, 85 years old. The youngest person in BC who died, 47. It is not a pandemic in BC. They don't
00:14:43.540 need masks. So they certainly don't need vaccines. They certainly don't need ones cooked up in a hurry by
00:14:50.420 the Chinese army. You know what they need? They need a solution to opioid drugs, which have killed
00:14:55.380 600 people so far this year. So yeah, masks. What's that all about? It's about conditioning you,
00:15:02.260 getting you used to being afraid, getting you used to obeying. And when will the masks end,
00:15:08.260 as Drea asks. Well, that's easy. They'll end only when you take a vaccine made in China.
00:15:14.500 Or if Theresa Tam gets her way, no problem. You don't have to take the vaccine. Just go to jail.
00:15:24.420 Stay with us for more.
00:15:36.980 Thank you, Chair. And thank you, Prime Minister. What is the total dollar value of all of the
00:15:43.940 expenses reimbursed, fees paid to, and any other consideration provided by the we group to you,
00:15:55.060 your mother, your spouse, your brother, and any other member of your family? Just the total, please.
00:16:03.140 Minister.
00:16:06.660 All right, mute. I don't have that exact figure.
00:16:09.860 That reimbursing expenses is something done by an organization, for example. So I don't have
00:16:16.740 those totals. Well, that is a clip from a spicy exchange between Pierre Polyev,
00:16:22.580 the Conservative MP. Frankly, I wish Pierre was running for Conservative leader right now.
00:16:27.060 And Justin Trudeau, who is mired in yet another ethical scandal, rewarding his friends who reward his
00:16:34.500 family. Oh, it's cozy in there, isn't it? Well, Trudeau appeared by video conference to a
00:16:41.220 parliamentary committee for about 90 minutes. I think he managed to avoid disastrous torpedoing
00:16:47.540 simply because I think the Canadian media is used to his sly, oleaginous answers. He just sort of
00:16:54.580 slips away. He manages to put himself as a third person, observing things with you. Oh yes,
00:17:00.420 I was disappointed. Oh yes, we have so much we can learn. And there were some Liberal MPs chiming in
00:17:07.060 to his defense. It was quite infuriating. But you know what? I think people know we've got a crook
00:17:12.100 as a Prime Minister. Joining me now to talk about the WE charitable scandals, as well as Trudeau's
00:17:20.260 appearance via video conference in these committee proceedings. And if it's getting through to severely
00:17:26.660 normal Canadians on the street, is our favorite lawyer, commentator, pundit friend, Manny Montenegrino,
00:17:34.020 CEO of ThinkSharp, who joins us now via Ottawa, via Skype. Manny, great to see you again. Thanks for
00:17:39.700 being back on the show. No problem. Just love helping out and love being part of your broadcast.
00:17:46.580 Manny, what I like is that you sort of step back, look at things in context and bring in other threads,
00:17:52.740 other ideas. And you've had a couple of days now to ruminate on Trudeau's hearing. What is your takeaway?
00:18:01.780 Well, Ezra, you know, you said it bothers you, it infuriates you, and it should every Canadian.
00:18:10.020 And the media completely forgets the past. And that's where I start. Every case, you got to get
00:18:16.260 all the facts. So I went back to the mandate letters. And as your viewers know, the Prime
00:18:22.100 Minister of Canada writes a mandate letter for every minister. This is what you're going to do.
00:18:28.740 And that's their task for the period of the term of Parliament. And each minister gets a mandate
00:18:34.580 letter. Now, the media in 2015 applauded Trudeau for making these mandate letters public. They were
00:18:42.260 always private. They were between the Prime Minister and the Minister. But he made them public. What an
00:18:46.980 openness. And the media applauded it. But they don't go back to them to see what were the duties. Well,
00:18:53.060 I did. And then each mandate letter, Ezra, specifically refers to the Conflict of Interest Act.
00:19:01.140 The Finance Minister's mandate letter says you must read it, read every part, adhere to every part
00:19:09.860 of the act, and you must conduct yourself accordingly. And then it goes far farther.
00:19:14.500 And the mandate letter says, now, look, we just don't want you to observe the law.
00:19:20.420 That's the minimum standard. I want you, says the Prime Minister to the Finance Minister,
00:19:25.540 to have the highest ethical standards. So read the act and have the highest ethical standards.
00:19:31.060 And this is found in every mandate letter. So that tells you a few things. Number one,
00:19:35.140 the Prime Minister, at least understood the act, the importance of the act, and made it part of his
00:19:41.460 dictate to every minister. So he must know about that. So we start there. Now, let's go to the
00:19:48.900 previous investigations. And there have been three. This will be Trudeau, the third investigation.
00:19:56.100 Right.
00:19:56.660 Well, let's take us to Trudeau the first. That was the Aga Khan. Now, some people don't know,
00:20:02.020 there were actually two cases rolled up into one, because there were two separate trips
00:20:07.940 that he took from the Aga Khan. And what I take out of that, now, these are 74-page legal decisions
00:20:15.380 that everyone puts no weight to. Well, you know, a judge wrote a decision, and we don't really care,
00:20:21.460 because it doesn't politically serve Trudeau. But it's a very damning report. And here's how damning
00:20:27.380 it was. I mean, there were two vacations, probably in the order of $400,000 of free trips. But what came
00:20:34.980 out of that was an interesting finding by the judge that Trudeau lied, or Trudeau was not credible
00:20:45.060 when he said that Aga Khan was his friend. Now, Ezra, let's bring that forward to today.
00:20:52.420 Now, the commissioner said, Prime Minister, you are not telling me the truth. I will not accept your
00:20:59.300 evidence, because you haven't seen the Aga Khan for 30-some years. How could you claim to be your
00:21:04.740 friend? Now, he forgets that. The media forgets that. I don't. And here's, now, fast forward to the
00:21:11.860 Kilburns. Here he has his mom, at least on 20, 30 occasions, speaking with them, his brother,
00:21:20.580 his wife. Just recently, a few months ago, his wife flew back and got very hefty expenses paid for her.
00:21:28.900 And Trudeau, I see many times he's hugging and he's at weak conventions. Now, if I use Trudeau's own
00:21:35.220 standard, and that is, is he a friend in the order of Aga Khan? The answer is absolutely yes.
00:21:42.820 I mean, so here he calls the Aga Khan a friend, and he calls the Kilburns. Oh, I don't know.
00:21:48.260 They're kind of associates. There is a thousand points more connection with the Kilburns than there
00:21:54.020 was Aga Khan. But in his own evidence, he said the Aga Khan was a friend. Well, if the Aga Khan was a
00:21:59.460 friend, Kilburns are bosom BBS, if you want to put it, or whatever you want to call it. So,
00:22:06.740 then you go to the investigation, the second Trudeau. There's another lengthy legal decision.
00:22:13.140 Now, there we learned a couple things. He did obstruct justice. He did found and breach,
00:22:17.620 again, under the Conflict Act. But also then he obstructed the investigator. He obstructed the
00:22:25.300 commissioner who was looking into it by not having everyone at the PMO speak. So, we now have a
00:22:31.220 broader picture. And the broad picture is you have to come to the conclusion that this person
00:22:36.900 has no credibility. This person has been found. I don't know if there's any court in the world
00:22:42.900 or any adjudicator that found a sitting leader, a prime minister, or a president, whoever, as a
00:22:49.060 person who cannot be credible. So, now you take all that information and you bring it to today.
00:23:00.180 And I find, you know, Ezra, I watched, I think about the first 10, 15 minutes. And, you know,
00:23:07.540 probably under doctor's order, I can't really listen to Justin Trudeau.
00:23:11.540 I know, he's got that tone of voice and he just looks at you and it's like you're in,
00:23:15.700 he's a high school drama teacher again. Well, that plus, more importantly to me,
00:23:21.780 he insults my intelligence and he insults every Canadian intelligence. And let me parse out one
00:23:27.700 thing. Like it is, and no one has mentioned this and it's just, it's absurd, but he thinks he can
00:23:33.700 get away with it. And here, he starts and he says, I first heard of this on May 8th and I pushed it back.
00:23:43.300 And I said to the bureaucrats, look at this carefully, because I am associated with these
00:23:50.020 people. I want you to do greater due diligence. That's how good I am. Right?
00:23:55.300 He's posing as the hero of the story. Right.
00:23:59.380 As if he wasn't intimately involved with it.
00:24:01.940 No, but he actually said, I said to send it back. Now, not one media looked at Section 21 of the
00:24:12.580 Conflict of Interest Act. It basically says it prohibits any public officer, certainly the prime
00:24:20.660 minister, from any debate, discussion or decision. So when it came up on May 8th,
00:24:28.340 Trudeau should have said, oh, I can't even send it back. I can't even listen about this.
00:24:34.820 Right, right.
00:24:35.380 So, so the fool, I apologize, but the accused or the recidivist actually admitted to a second breach
00:24:48.020 of Section 21. He breached Section 21 when he should have just clapped his hands and said,
00:24:54.260 what's this? The Kilburgs? We? I'm out. I don't even want to hear anything. I'm out of the room.
00:25:00.740 Guys, you take care of it. Not that I'm sending it back because I'm noble, because once you seize
00:25:07.620 yourself of this file, you have breached the law. That's what recusal means. And then he comes back to
00:25:15.460 him again after the due diligence, and God knows what due diligence, that the issue of recusal has
00:25:21.940 nothing to do with the poor bureaucrats. I mean, they can't do anything about it. All they can do
00:25:27.700 is look at the file and send it back forward. So then Trudeau gets it again the second time,
00:25:33.460 and this time he doesn't debate it, doesn't discuss it. He actually makes a decision and approves it with
00:25:39.540 cabinet. So it's a second violation. Now, you know, Ezra, I've counted that the Conflict of
00:25:47.140 Interest Act has many sections. To date, and I use this as a joke, and I was on the golf course today,
00:25:53.220 and I said to a friend, what does Justin Trudeau and Tiger Woods have in common? And I said, no,
00:25:58.820 no, no, don't go there. Something different. And I said, they both have 15 majors.
00:26:05.140 Tiger Woods has won 15 majors. Trudeau has 15 major breaches of the Conflict of Interest Act.
00:26:12.580 And I've already caught two or three on this one here alone. So how does he stand there proudly
00:26:20.100 and say, oh, look, I saw this on May 8th, and he basically said he directed that whole file,
00:26:26.820 which is specifically prohibited under Section 21. And then a month or two weeks later, he votes on it.
00:26:34.180 So he's got two ethical violations on one act.
00:26:38.980 You know, could I read a tweet from Andrew Coyne, who was talking about the May 8th date? And let me
00:26:45.540 just read this, because I think he's on point. He says, so we, the charity, was talking to various
00:26:51.300 cabinet ministers in early April. PMO officials were talking to we a handful of times after that.
00:26:57.540 The program was offered to them on April 22nd. We began work on it on May 5th. But no one breathed
00:27:05.460 a word of it to either the prime minister or his chief of staff until May 8th. I mean,
00:27:10.500 yeah, no, and that whole fact was not mentioned by anyone until Trudeau's testimony. They are counting
00:27:18.260 on media either being gullible or lazy or not connecting the dots or just
00:27:24.180 too in the tank. I mean, Andrew Coyne summed up
00:27:29.060 a fact pattern that is simply not believable, that all this activity was done before anyone
00:27:34.260 mentioned it to the chief of staff. Forget the prime minister. The chief of staff didn't know this,
00:27:38.020 really? You just went ahead with a half billion dollar program? Chief of staff didn't know?
00:27:41.620 Yeah, no. There's no question that what he's saying is not truthful. There's no question
00:27:48.660 that an adjudicator already found him not to be a truthful person. And now, I mean, if you think of
00:27:55.860 what he's saying, he's actually saying in his defense of being noble, I breached section 21 on May 8th
00:28:06.180 because I wanted it further reviewed. That is just absurd. It goes beyond any legal grasp. If there
00:28:16.020 was a judge on this, and he will be, the commissioner will found another 80-page report saying that he's
00:28:24.420 done this wrong. But they miss that point. And then he goes on to, and it really, Ezra, I'm lost. He goes
00:28:33.940 on to his explanation that he's got a, you know, the media, the CBC, and you know, I love watching
00:28:40.900 CBC because I just, they work so hard to protect. No, I, you know, I mean, I protected my clients
00:28:51.460 vigorously. Yeah. And they do a better job protecting Trudeau than I ever have, and I thought I was one of
00:28:57.060 Yeah, they earned their money. They earned their money, Manny.
00:29:00.020 But they, they, they say, they say he's got a blind spot. Now, let's again go back to totality of it.
00:29:07.460 This is a guy who explained and the people accepted the explanation for his racist and admitted racist
00:29:16.980 acts of multiple black faces because of his white privilege. And everyone seemed to accept that.
00:29:23.940 And I, I, okay, fine. I don't. Uh, that's in fact, what racism is, is white privilege. He should be
00:29:32.260 gone. But now he's using the same explanation, the same rationale for his
00:29:39.940 is continual 13 breaches of the conflict of interest act. And we're talking about gifts.
00:29:47.220 We're talking about $400,000 vacations. We're talking about mom getting two, three, 400,000,
00:29:53.300 my brother, Sophie's, you know, I mean, listen, I'd like to go to London and somebody pick up my
00:29:58.100 pad for a $2,000 hotel. Yeah. I mean, well, those are expenses. Well, no, it's, it's living large.
00:30:03.620 Yeah. I mean, that's, oh, I mean, it's London has some of the most expensive hotels in the world,
00:30:08.900 or you can stay on the cheap. Um, to say she didn't take a fee, but, but lived like a princess,
00:30:14.740 literally in the Royal suite. Um, that's tantamount to being paid. And then some,
00:30:19.700 it was a gorgeous vacation. You know, it's, it's funny to say he's got a blind spot. Um,
00:30:25.700 that implies he wasn't looking, wasn't choosing, wasn't attentive. He knew exactly what was going on.
00:30:33.060 And as you point out, this is his third time, uh, where he's being caught in it. It's not,
00:30:38.260 oh, well guys, sorry. I just, I just accidentally, uh, approved this half billion dollar grant,
00:30:45.700 or is it a billion to, I mean, you know, when he said he didn't know what hotel his wife was
00:30:50.260 staying at in London, she's gone a big trip with the kids, with his mom. I'm sorry. I don't believe
00:30:55.620 it. I don't know. You have to work for the CBC to believe that kind of thing. And you have to,
00:31:00.820 to believe that he has a blind spot. This is a person, like, Ezra, it, it, like, there's another
00:31:08.820 CBC point that he actually went to committee. Now, Ezra, you know, I practiced law 34 years,
00:31:18.420 and, and I've learned a few things about a few certain types of people. Um, the type of people
00:31:25.460 that go under oath to be cross examined when they are, I'll say a recidivist. This is his 13th
00:31:32.900 charge, his second large decision. And to sit there and say, I want to speak and then openly lie
00:31:39.460 and say that, that I sent it back. Well, that's an admission that you broke the law again. People that
00:31:46.660 do that, and I've had very rare cases, but the clients that take the stand are those that are,
00:31:52.820 have kind of a narcissist, uh, uh, personality, a psychopathic personality that they believe
00:32:01.380 that no matter how insane what they say, people will accept it because they are above everybody.
00:32:08.580 And, and so I, I don't, I don't take great pleasure that he took the went under oath. I mean, I, you know,
00:32:16.100 you can go through that. And certainly if this was in, in, in America and the FBI,
00:32:20.900 there'd probably be a few charges of, uh, of, um, uh, breach under the oath and, and perjury.
00:32:27.540 Uh, but if you go through his whole testimony, there were just bold faced lies.
00:32:33.620 Yeah. Um, so, you know, I, I, I don't know why he would stand up and admit
00:32:39.620 that he failed to recuse twice. Um, um, but, but, uh, there he did it.
00:32:45.460 I think there's the narcissism of thinking people will believe him no matter what he says,
00:32:49.940 but there's also the mental reservation, the moral reservation that if he did anything wrong,
00:32:54.820 he's so noble, just, he makes it right. So that he doesn't have to feel guilty about anything
00:33:02.100 because he's actually more morally, he burns more brightly than any law. So if any law,
00:33:08.980 if he breaks any law, that law ought not to have been applied to him in the first place. I think
00:33:13.620 when you live your entire life as a young prince, uh, your dad's money, your dad's name,
00:33:20.740 doors open for you. Someone always cleans up the mess. That's not a good person to put into a
00:33:25.860 position that demands accountability, like a PM. Last question to you, Manny. Do you think he'll
00:33:31.700 survive this one as easily as he survived the first two? Is there any reason to think
00:33:37.380 that this will be any different from the last two, uh, ethics breaches? And there'll be some
00:33:42.900 harrumphing in the press gallery and three months from now, no one will even remember.
00:33:47.620 Well, uh, gladly there is a cumulative effect. I don't think he should have survived the first.
00:33:53.460 Um, the whole concept of being above the law, that is why these laws are there. They're there.
00:34:00.100 That law was specifically there to make sure the public office holders don't go see themselves
00:34:06.900 above the law with their power. So, and, and clearly Justin Trudeau, we're talking, you know,
00:34:12.260 there will be 15 to 17 different findings and violations of various sections on facts that lead
00:34:20.820 to six, four different types of circumstances. So, four different cases, three different reviews,
00:34:27.380 17 different findings of guilt. I mean, this is beyond, this isn't just one mistake. This is a
00:34:33.300 pattern of life. And again, you go back to the blackface. I mean, I've never heard of anyone
00:34:39.220 doing one blackface, but to do it when he was asked how many times, I can't remember. This is a person
00:34:45.780 that goes past beyond any reasonable person's, uh, review of, of normality and, and conduct.
00:34:54.500 And he is, I mean, to sit there and say, I didn't recuse myself because I failed to recuse myself to
00:35:01.060 send it to the barricades because I didn't recuse myself. It's like, it's like, it's, it's absurd.
00:35:06.100 And, and I shake my head. I can't see why everybody doesn't see it. It's very simple. Something that
00:35:12.500 touches your family, you get up, you leave the room. Yeah. Everyone gets it. Everyone gets it.
00:35:17.220 Yeah. Well, it's, uh, no surprise to Rebel viewers that this is how Trudeau is. We've
00:35:24.420 been calling it since the beginning. Hopefully other Canadians will see it. Manny, what a pleasure
00:35:28.580 as always to learn so much from you, your political eye, your legal eye. You find things that other
00:35:33.940 people miss. It's a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you very much, Andrew. Take care. Right on.
00:35:38.260 There you have a Manny Montanegrino, the CEO of ThinkSharp.