Rebel News Podcast - July 25, 2019


Government prosecutors go after Sheila Gunn Reid for writing a BOOK — Help us fight back


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

165.74597

Word Count

8,231

Sentence Count

239

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter and Alberta bureau chief, has been prosecuted by the Elections Commissioner of Alberta for writing her book, Stop Notley. It s the most popular book on Alberta politics in 2019, reaching the No. 2 spot on the Amazon Bestseller list.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Very special show today.
00:00:02.820 It's about one of our friends, Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter, our Alberta bureau chief.
00:00:08.580 She's been prosecuted by the elections commissioner of Alberta.
00:00:11.960 Now, you might be saying, hang on a second, Jason Kenney is the premier of Alberta.
00:00:14.840 What's going on there?
00:00:15.560 Well, this is a holdover appointed by Rachel Notley to get her enemies.
00:00:20.220 And on the top of that enemies list is Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:00:22.540 Well, we have to fight back.
00:00:24.120 I want you to listen to the whole thing.
00:00:26.080 And I want you to listen to the recordings of the prosecutors threatening us,
00:00:29.180 the investigators rather, threatening us.
00:00:32.120 And I'd like you to help if you could.
00:00:34.680 Hey, one way you can help is to become a premium subscriber.
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00:00:47.360 Besides helping us, you get access to the video version of this podcast
00:00:51.300 and other shows by Sheila Gunn-Reed and David Menzies.
00:00:54.800 Okay, I really hope you can listen to this whole show today.
00:00:58.200 I think it's probably the most important video we've done in a year.
00:01:01.260 Thanks.
00:01:02.920 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.
00:01:06.180 Tonight, government prosecutors make their move against Sheila Gunn-Reed for her book, Stop Notley.
00:01:11.720 I need your help to protect her.
00:01:13.940 It's July 24th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:16.260 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:22.100 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:26.160 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:32.020 For three months, we have been privately fighting against an illegal and unconstitutional attempt by the Alberta government
00:01:44.420 to prosecute Sheila Gunn-Reed, our star reporter and Alberta bureau chief,
00:01:48.740 for writing her best-selling book, Stop Notley.
00:01:51.380 That book is the most popular book on Alberta politics in 2019,
00:01:56.420 reaching the number two spot on the Amazon.ca national best-seller list.
00:02:01.300 It was great journalism, and it's Sheila's third best-selling book.
00:02:05.620 She wrote another one about the NDP three years ago called The Destroyers,
00:02:09.740 and one just last year about David Suzuki.
00:02:12.300 They're great books, and the Rebel is proud to publish them.
00:02:14.900 But Rachel Notley hated them because Sheila is the toughest journalist in the Alberta press corps,
00:02:21.080 one of the few who would ever challenge Notley.
00:02:23.880 Sheila broke more news scoops than any other Alberta reporter these past four years,
00:02:27.800 including the incredible scoop that Rachel Notley cancelled every single water bomber contract
00:02:33.140 just days before the wildfire tore through Fort McMurray.
00:02:36.780 Notley actually banned Sheila from the legislature as punishment for her reporting,
00:02:41.280 literally sending an armed sheriff to block her from coming into the legislature,
00:02:45.960 and then Notley had Alberta's Justice Department write to us,
00:02:49.620 banning us or anyone connected to us from going on government property anywhere.
00:02:53.680 That's illegal, of course, but Notley didn't care.
00:02:56.520 It was only when her weird Venezuela-style censorship was mocked in the national press
00:03:01.380 that Notley backed down, but she never forgave Sheila.
00:03:05.180 So last year, Notley created a special new hunter-killer office
00:03:09.880 called the election commissioner, not the chief electoral officer,
00:03:13.640 not the guy in charge of running the elections.
00:03:15.960 Alberta's always had one of those, obviously.
00:03:18.180 Notley created a new officer in charge of political crimes
00:03:21.740 and called him the elections commissioner,
00:03:24.440 and she hired a disgraced anti-conservative activist named Lorne Gibson
00:03:30.340 who actually sued the conservatives in his personal capacity
00:03:34.060 and was laughed out of court,
00:03:34.900 but Notley gave him the last laugh appointing that unbalanced kook
00:03:39.940 to be the elections commissioner to investigate her enemies,
00:03:43.500 and he loved doing it because they were his enemies too.
00:03:46.120 Now, Gibson has taken a run at us several times before,
00:03:49.180 but we've always fought him off, and he's always backed down.
00:03:52.580 In fact, Elections Alberta actually published a series of apologies to us
00:03:57.500 every day for a week on Twitter.
00:04:00.040 Actually, I couldn't believe it.
00:04:01.160 For falsely smearing us earlier this year.
00:04:03.800 They're so dirty over there.
00:04:06.500 But now they're coming to kill us.
00:04:09.380 They're threatening to prosecute Sheila Gunn-Reed for her book.
00:04:12.720 They say that.
00:04:13.960 It's her book.
00:04:14.660 They're not hiding that.
00:04:16.100 They're literally prosecuting her for her book, Stop Notley.
00:04:20.000 They're demanding.
00:04:21.140 Here's what's incredible.
00:04:22.120 Here's what's so scary.
00:04:23.300 They're demanding that she hand over all her notes
00:04:25.860 and emails and editorial plans about the book.
00:04:30.920 She's an author.
00:04:31.620 They're threatening her with, quote, severe consequences.
00:04:35.060 If she doesn't...
00:04:36.140 Here, to explain the story better,
00:04:38.340 let me let Sheila tell you about it directly.
00:04:41.000 Now, Sheila recorded this 20-minute video,
00:04:43.340 and I'm going to play the whole thing.
00:04:44.920 You really must see it all.
00:04:47.220 Listen to all of her evidence,
00:04:48.640 including the voice recordings and emails from Notley Steph.
00:04:52.840 Okay, listen to this.
00:04:53.600 I'll see you in 20 minutes.
00:04:54.920 Yeah, I mean, we have that, too,
00:04:56.640 where people don't cooperate,
00:04:58.440 and then they get, you know, they get obstruction.
00:05:01.400 You know, the offense for obstruction can be pretty severe.
00:05:09.520 I have some terrible news to share with you today.
00:05:12.440 We have been trying to work quietly
00:05:14.540 to get ourselves out of the trouble that we're facing,
00:05:17.060 but it's become clear in recent days.
00:05:19.740 We can't do this quietly anymore,
00:05:21.360 and we cannot do this alone.
00:05:23.020 I need your help now.
00:05:25.940 NDP-appointed holdovers in the Alberta government
00:05:28.340 are coming for me because I wrote a best-selling book
00:05:30.980 that hurt Rachel Notley's feelings.
00:05:33.400 I'm potentially facing tens of thousands of dollars in fines,
00:05:36.920 and what the government officer involved calls severe consequences,
00:05:41.540 but the biggest threat is to freedom of the press for all of us.
00:05:45.480 Let me explain this mess.
00:05:46.980 We have to go back a few months to the very beginning.
00:05:49.240 This video is long, but I have to tell you the whole story,
00:05:52.660 and I have to show you the proof of what's happening,
00:05:54.700 or you just would not believe it.
00:05:57.520 Back in April, we received a letter from Alberta's elections commissioner.
00:06:01.560 That entire bureaucracy is a recent creation of the NDP,
00:06:05.380 and it was weaponized against Notley's conservative critics.
00:06:07.940 They have come after us about billboards critical of the NDP
00:06:12.080 on two separate occasions in the past, and they lost.
00:06:16.860 This new threat letter in April came from the elections commissioner,
00:06:21.680 Lauren Gibson, and it was addressed to me,
00:06:23.940 but it was sent to our Toronto office.
00:06:26.660 So the Alberta election was over.
00:06:28.340 Jason Kenney was the new premier.
00:06:30.220 But Notley's hand-picked enforcer was still on the job,
00:06:33.440 and he still is today.
00:06:36.420 He said he was opening an investigation
00:06:38.600 after complaints about lawn signs promoting my best-selling book.
00:06:43.120 Here's part of his letter.
00:06:44.360 We will be seeking your answers to a number of questions,
00:06:48.280 including the following.
00:06:50.260 What was the basis upon which you determined
00:06:52.240 the selling price of the Stop Notley book?
00:06:55.480 What was the date you began to make this book available to the public?
00:07:00.380 Was the availability of the Stop Notley book to the public
00:07:03.880 time to occur with the 2019 provincial election campaign,
00:07:07.540 or was the book planned to be made available to the public
00:07:10.640 regardless of whether there was an election or not?
00:07:13.600 What is the estimated cost of the Stop Notley advertising book promotion campaign?
00:07:19.500 What is the contact information for the company
00:07:21.520 that published the Stop Notley book,
00:07:23.440 and the company that designed, produced, and distributed
00:07:26.620 the Stop Notley signs?
00:07:29.760 Gibson said he would be contacting me for an interview,
00:07:33.000 or to put it another way,
00:07:34.900 I'd be interrogated by the government
00:07:36.720 about a book I wrote about the government.
00:07:40.500 Now his letter didn't even tell me
00:07:42.180 who's under investigation,
00:07:44.380 or for what?
00:07:45.080 Is it me, or the publisher of my book?
00:07:47.140 Who's in trouble here?
00:07:48.640 Is it for the book,
00:07:50.160 or the law and signs promoting the book?
00:07:52.300 And really, it doesn't matter anyway,
00:07:54.340 or it shouldn't,
00:07:55.820 because we have a free press in Canada,
00:07:58.480 and here is the elections law
00:08:00.320 that specifically exempts books.
00:08:02.140 Section 44 D2 reads,
00:08:04.340 elections advertising does not include
00:08:07.580 the distribution of a book
00:08:09.400 or the promotion of the sale of a book
00:08:11.780 for no less than its commercial value
00:08:13.920 if the book was planned to be made available to the public,
00:08:18.020 regardless of whether there was to be an election.
00:08:21.580 Apparently, even Alberta's draconian elections censorship law
00:08:25.240 recognizes the importance of a free press.
00:08:27.940 And of course,
00:08:28.560 we lawyered my book up and down before we published it.
00:08:31.160 In fact, legal fees are one of the largest expenses
00:08:34.140 here at The Rebel.
00:08:35.540 So I first emailed Stephen Kay,
00:08:38.060 the investigator noted in the letter.
00:08:41.360 And I said this,
00:08:42.800 Dear Mr. Kay,
00:08:44.200 I am a journalist and author.
00:08:47.140 In my view,
00:08:48.200 your investigation of me
00:08:49.740 is legally inappropriate
00:08:51.360 and contrary to Canada's constitutional freedoms,
00:08:54.520 especially freedom of expression.
00:08:56.480 Your decision to keep these complaints against me a secret
00:08:59.240 is inappropriate if they really do exist.
00:09:02.260 By keeping them secret,
00:09:03.420 you stop me from knowing the details of the case against me
00:09:06.880 and from making a proper response.
00:09:10.140 You still haven't been clear
00:09:12.220 about why I'm being investigated.
00:09:14.720 Perhaps the complaints would also shed light on that.
00:09:17.620 Your email says the complaints are about
00:09:19.540 the signs which marketed my book,
00:09:22.080 but most of the questions in your letter
00:09:23.520 ask about the Stop Not Leave book itself.
00:09:26.420 Are you investigating me for the book
00:09:28.140 or the signs which brought it
00:09:30.060 to the attention of the public?
00:09:32.000 Am I personally being investigated
00:09:33.420 for not registering as a third party?
00:09:35.460 You still haven't actually told me
00:09:37.240 what I've allegedly done.
00:09:40.180 And that's when another investigator
00:09:42.340 tasked with the file,
00:09:44.060 a former city cop named Ken Brander,
00:09:47.160 emailed me saying
00:09:48.380 he would answer my questions in a phone call.
00:09:51.740 So I called Brander and recorded the call
00:09:53.980 because not only am I a journalist,
00:09:56.280 but I need to protect myself
00:09:57.700 in case I am actually the target
00:09:59.980 of this investigation
00:10:00.860 because they wouldn't tell me.
00:10:03.460 Here, I'd like to play some excerpts
00:10:05.000 from that conversation for you.
00:10:07.620 Right away, this investigator said
00:10:09.240 he wasn't interested in my book,
00:10:11.200 Just the Lawn Signs,
00:10:12.340 which I had nothing to do with.
00:10:13.880 That was my publisher's idea,
00:10:15.440 which I loved,
00:10:16.700 but I'm just the book's author.
00:10:19.280 I'll be able to tell you
00:10:19.980 what the gist of the complaints are.
00:10:21.440 But it just has to do with advertising.
00:10:26.420 People see the Lawn Signs
00:10:28.880 and they go,
00:10:29.540 oh, that Lawn Sign looks just like
00:10:31.160 the political Lawn Signs,
00:10:33.660 so this person must be doing
00:10:35.340 political advertising.
00:10:36.540 So the complaints are all about
00:10:39.060 the Lawn Signs
00:10:40.380 and if they're political advertising
00:10:42.600 or if they're not.
00:10:43.400 So, if the book was fine,
00:10:46.320 then why was he calling me the author?
00:10:48.500 And he repeated that again.
00:10:50.520 He claimed he wasn't investigating me.
00:10:53.700 Am I personally being investigated
00:10:55.460 for not registering as a third party?
00:10:57.180 No.
00:10:57.520 Okay.
00:10:58.060 No.
00:10:58.600 Okay.
00:10:58.880 No, it's just,
00:10:59.660 it's just,
00:11:00.560 it's just the Lawn Signs themselves.
00:11:03.400 But then after telling me
00:11:04.640 he wasn't investigating my book,
00:11:06.500 he started investigating my book.
00:11:09.280 Why did I write it when I wrote it?
00:11:11.400 Pretty dumb question.
00:11:12.300 It's a political book.
00:11:13.220 In an election year.
00:11:14.960 But why was he grilling me,
00:11:16.240 an author and journalist?
00:11:18.760 There's something about the timing
00:11:19.980 of the book.
00:11:22.380 So, you know,
00:11:23.460 I'd be looking for
00:11:24.100 just a little bit of background
00:11:25.260 information on like when,
00:11:27.960 when was the book written?
00:11:29.540 When was it,
00:11:30.120 when was it going to be published?
00:11:32.560 Or was it like a last minute thing?
00:11:34.140 Like, you know,
00:11:35.380 that type of thing.
00:11:36.980 At the end of the call,
00:11:38.060 he said he was 90% sure
00:11:39.660 the book was fine,
00:11:40.560 but he still had a lot of questions for me.
00:11:43.220 I guess to be clear,
00:11:44.320 what is it
00:11:45.480 that I have
00:11:46.680 alleged to have done
00:11:48.440 that would break the law?
00:11:50.800 Well,
00:11:51.340 it's alleged that the sign
00:11:52.900 associated to the book,
00:11:56.280 or it's alleged that
00:11:57.180 that Lawn Signs
00:11:57.780 is election advertising.
00:11:58.700 So, for me,
00:12:01.080 the elements that I have to show
00:12:03.060 are that either,
00:12:04.480 yes, it is election advertising,
00:12:05.980 or no,
00:12:06.420 it's not election advertising.
00:12:08.080 If it's not election advertising,
00:12:10.260 then it's case closed.
00:12:11.560 If it is election advertising,
00:12:13.420 then the investigation
00:12:14.120 has to continue
00:12:15.040 to see, you know,
00:12:16.680 who's putting it out,
00:12:17.740 are they registered
00:12:18.520 as a third-party advertiser,
00:12:19.860 or are they not?
00:12:20.940 But the first hurdle is,
00:12:22.120 the first element
00:12:22.760 to determine is whether
00:12:23.900 it's election advertising or not.
00:12:25.380 At this point,
00:12:26.920 I'm 90% sure
00:12:28.240 that it's not
00:12:29.100 election advertising.
00:12:31.000 I ended that call
00:12:31.860 by telling him
00:12:32.560 the name of the media
00:12:33.940 freedom lawyer I have,
00:12:35.760 Fred Kozak,
00:12:36.540 who helped me
00:12:37.240 fight back
00:12:38.120 when Rachel Notley
00:12:38.960 illegally banned me
00:12:40.280 from the legislature
00:12:41.540 a few years ago.
00:12:43.480 Could you share
00:12:44.240 your counsel's name
00:12:45.120 just so I know?
00:12:45.880 Oh, yes,
00:12:46.480 it's Fred Kozak.
00:12:48.640 Fred Kozak?
00:12:49.380 Yes,
00:12:49.980 from Reynolds,
00:12:50.640 Merth,
00:12:50.880 Richards,
00:12:51.240 and Farmer.
00:12:52.240 I was still unclear,
00:12:53.340 though.
00:12:53.860 Is Brander investigating
00:12:55.120 me as an author
00:12:56.700 or my publisher,
00:12:58.180 especially since
00:12:58.980 Brander has never
00:12:59.940 contacted my publisher
00:13:01.340 for any of the details
00:13:02.540 he was asking me about?
00:13:04.260 And why does he keep
00:13:05.180 asking me about the book
00:13:06.380 if he's not
00:13:07.280 investigating the book?
00:13:08.780 So I called him
00:13:09.880 a second time.
00:13:11.420 The reason I'm phoning you
00:13:12.800 is I understand
00:13:14.500 that you're the author
00:13:15.560 of the book,
00:13:16.220 so the questions
00:13:17.120 that I have answers to
00:13:18.100 those final elements
00:13:20.760 that I have to address
00:13:21.860 and the exemption,
00:13:23.020 I believe you probably
00:13:23.940 have the answers
00:13:24.620 to those questions.
00:13:25.780 So at this point,
00:13:28.280 there's no particular
00:13:31.360 person under investigation,
00:13:33.240 like no suspect,
00:13:34.280 to use a police term.
00:13:36.340 Is it normal
00:13:37.340 in a free country
00:13:38.380 for the government
00:13:39.160 to hire investigators
00:13:40.420 to interrogate authors
00:13:41.960 of books that
00:13:42.840 criticize the government?
00:13:44.700 It is not.
00:13:45.760 So I asked Brander
00:13:46.800 what would happen
00:13:47.560 if I refuse to answer.
00:13:49.060 I'm going to play
00:13:49.840 a two-minute clip
00:13:50.960 of his answer.
00:13:51.900 It's absolutely terrifying.
00:13:53.820 Listen to what he says
00:13:54.720 he'll do to me
00:13:55.660 if I don't answer
00:13:56.860 all of his questions
00:13:57.660 about why I wrote
00:13:58.620 my Rachel Notley book.
00:14:01.180 You've asked me
00:14:01.820 to come by
00:14:02.240 and answer your questions.
00:14:04.100 Now, if I don't do that,
00:14:06.000 can you order me
00:14:07.120 to answer with a summons
00:14:08.460 or something like that,
00:14:09.260 like a subpoena?
00:14:13.120 You want a subpoena?
00:14:14.320 No, I'm just asking you,
00:14:16.580 like if I don't come by
00:14:20.680 and answer your questions
00:14:22.220 about my book,
00:14:23.460 what happens then?
00:14:26.600 Will you issue me a summons?
00:14:31.420 Well, is there a reason
00:14:34.280 that you don't want to
00:14:35.280 clear this up?
00:14:36.680 I'm, that's not,
00:14:42.820 that wasn't really my,
00:14:45.140 it's not that I don't want
00:14:47.460 to clear this up at all.
00:14:48.400 I'm just, I'm just curious.
00:14:50.280 What happens if I don't come by?
00:14:52.020 Well, yeah, I mean,
00:14:55.760 there's all kinds of,
00:14:57.160 you know, authorities
00:14:58.020 for the election commissioner
00:14:59.400 to, you know,
00:15:01.720 you know, to,
00:15:05.680 not compel,
00:15:06.660 but there are,
00:15:07.180 there are, you know,
00:15:08.280 there are, yeah,
00:15:09.280 the word is consequences
00:15:10.260 for people that,
00:15:11.880 you know,
00:15:12.160 that don't provide
00:15:13.900 the information
00:15:14.620 and that type of thing.
00:15:16.580 So, I mean,
00:15:17.660 if you carry it through
00:15:18.540 to a logical conclusion,
00:15:20.240 yeah, I mean,
00:15:20.800 there's production orders,
00:15:22.060 there's all kinds of things
00:15:22.840 that, there's all kinds
00:15:23.660 of tools that can be done,
00:15:24.840 but they're all
00:15:25.260 fairly extreme.
00:15:26.460 And, you know,
00:15:27.860 when we do those,
00:15:28.880 you know,
00:15:29.160 we can do those types
00:15:30.180 of things,
00:15:30.760 but it's,
00:15:32.860 you know,
00:15:33.180 in this case,
00:15:34.280 I really think that
00:15:35.060 we can just kind of
00:15:35.920 clear this up
00:15:36.660 pretty quickly.
00:15:41.620 Just with,
00:15:42.500 you know,
00:15:42.900 just with the conversation
00:15:43.980 and if you can,
00:15:44.840 if you,
00:15:45.260 there's documents,
00:15:46.120 you can show me about,
00:15:47.700 you know,
00:15:48.020 this is when,
00:15:49.060 if there's a book deal,
00:15:49.940 this is when it was signed,
00:15:51.140 this is when it was planned to be,
00:15:53.180 you know,
00:15:54.780 this is kind of
00:15:55.820 when we think
00:15:56.220 it might hit the market,
00:15:58.060 be available for the public,
00:16:00.840 just, you know,
00:16:01.660 when those first plans
00:16:02.680 started to be made,
00:16:03.860 that type of thing,
00:16:04.460 just a little bit
00:16:05.000 of background about that.
00:16:06.740 So hang on,
00:16:08.060 again and again,
00:16:08.700 he's told me
00:16:09.460 he's not investigating
00:16:10.540 the book,
00:16:11.160 but he's demanding
00:16:11.880 that I,
00:16:12.620 as the author,
00:16:13.220 agree to be interrogated,
00:16:14.800 and he wants
00:16:15.520 editorial information
00:16:16.820 about the book's plans,
00:16:18.400 any briefing notes,
00:16:19.540 and even editorial emails.
00:16:22.080 Just listen.
00:16:22.920 The area that I can't
00:16:24.680 tick off yet
00:16:25.360 is just the part
00:16:27.240 about the planning
00:16:28.120 of when it was
00:16:28.740 to be made available,
00:16:29.540 and I'm going to see that
00:16:30.480 through things like,
00:16:32.460 you know,
00:16:33.320 either a contract
00:16:34.320 or some type of briefing note
00:16:35.840 or,
00:16:36.820 you know,
00:16:37.160 a schedule
00:16:37.780 or,
00:16:38.680 you know,
00:16:39.540 emails or something like that
00:16:41.460 saying,
00:16:42.680 yeah,
00:16:42.960 this is,
00:16:43.420 you know,
00:16:43.760 this is when I'm starting
00:16:45.080 before even a statement from you,
00:16:46.540 this is when I,
00:16:47.180 this is when I started
00:16:48.120 writing the book,
00:16:49.340 you know,
00:16:49.780 this is when,
00:16:51.260 you know,
00:16:51.640 it was planned to be,
00:16:53.700 you know,
00:16:54.040 the season or whatever
00:16:54.980 when we were thinking
00:16:55.680 of releasing the book,
00:16:56.640 whatever.
00:16:57.720 And just in case
00:16:58.580 he wasn't clear,
00:17:00.040 he tells me
00:17:00.720 that if I don't hand over
00:17:02.200 my editorial notes,
00:17:04.160 the consequences
00:17:04.980 will be severe.
00:17:07.080 Yeah,
00:17:07.340 I mean,
00:17:07.540 we have that,
00:17:08.560 too,
00:17:08.820 that where people
00:17:09.260 don't cooperate
00:17:10.380 and then they get,
00:17:11.820 you know,
00:17:12.180 they get obstruction,
00:17:13.600 you know,
00:17:13.940 the offense for obstruction
00:17:15.360 can be pretty severe.
00:17:17.400 He says it one more time.
00:17:30.500 I'm an author
00:17:31.240 and he needs
00:17:32.460 my email records.
00:17:34.880 A statement would be good,
00:17:36.000 like a written statement,
00:17:36.820 but if you have any
00:17:37.660 types of email records
00:17:39.340 or
00:17:39.820 anything like that,
00:17:43.340 that would be,
00:17:44.780 I think that would probably
00:17:45.780 get me where I need to be.
00:17:47.860 The government of Alberta
00:17:49.140 has hired an ex-cop,
00:17:50.800 two actually,
00:17:51.700 to investigate a journalist
00:17:52.900 for writing a book
00:17:53.800 in Canada
00:17:54.600 in 2019,
00:17:56.120 not 1984.
00:17:57.920 We've been quietly
00:17:58.580 fighting against this
00:17:59.680 for three months
00:18:00.640 at great expense
00:18:01.600 and we thought
00:18:03.000 we had scared them off,
00:18:04.380 but then last week
00:18:05.260 I got a call
00:18:06.300 from Brander,
00:18:07.000 the investigator.
00:18:07.800 I'll play it for you,
00:18:08.940 it's a threat.
00:18:10.280 Either I give him
00:18:11.040 all of my editorial records
00:18:12.480 now
00:18:12.940 or he prosecutes me.
00:18:14.840 Here.
00:18:15.780 I'm just calling you
00:18:16.680 about this outstanding matter
00:18:17.860 that we have
00:18:18.340 under investigation.
00:18:20.500 I'm just kind of,
00:18:22.520 you know,
00:18:22.880 still kind of waiting
00:18:23.600 confirmation from you
00:18:24.820 that you're going to
00:18:25.520 participate in this investigation.
00:18:27.400 There are some documents
00:18:28.380 that we require.
00:18:30.400 It is a lawful request
00:18:31.660 for those documents.
00:18:32.860 We expect that you'll comply.
00:18:34.280 Like I said,
00:18:36.920 I think we're pretty close
00:18:38.000 to being able
00:18:38.440 to conclude the matter,
00:18:39.620 but those documents
00:18:40.900 that we're waiting for,
00:18:42.720 I can't conclude the matter
00:18:43.780 until we review those documents.
00:18:48.100 So, you know,
00:18:50.320 I'll send you a follow-up email,
00:18:51.940 but we're kind of getting
00:18:52.720 to the point now
00:18:53.360 where we've asked many,
00:18:55.340 many times.
00:18:56.320 We've sent emails requesting.
00:18:57.600 We've had conversations about it.
00:18:58.720 I'm satisfied
00:18:59.220 that you know
00:18:59.760 what it is
00:19:00.200 that I'm asking for.
00:19:02.760 So I'm hoping
00:19:03.880 that you'll participate
00:19:07.320 and we can,
00:19:08.280 I think if you participate
00:19:09.320 and provide the documents
00:19:10.680 requesting,
00:19:11.280 I think we can wrap this up.
00:19:13.340 I can't conclude it
00:19:14.800 until you participate.
00:19:17.680 You can call me
00:19:18.120 when you get a chance,
00:19:18.880 please, Sheila,
00:19:19.680 and get back to me
00:19:20.520 and let me know
00:19:20.840 what your intentions are.
00:19:21.780 Thanks very much.
00:19:22.700 Bye.
00:19:23.240 And in case that wasn't
00:19:24.580 threatening enough,
00:19:25.460 he immediately sent a letter
00:19:26.900 demanding the same thing.
00:19:28.680 He knows I have a lawyer
00:19:30.060 and he knows my lawyer's name,
00:19:32.460 but he's contacting me directly.
00:19:35.120 Here's the latest email.
00:19:36.880 We have shared a number
00:19:38.340 of phone calls together
00:19:39.580 and we have discussed
00:19:40.920 this investigation.
00:19:41.840 I have been expecting
00:19:43.560 to hear from you
00:19:44.500 and for you to provide
00:19:46.120 the documentation I requested.
00:19:48.380 I would like to conclude
00:19:49.460 this matter.
00:19:50.200 However, I cannot
00:19:51.120 without your participation
00:19:52.660 and the documents I require.
00:19:55.860 And now here's the threat.
00:19:58.540 There is a provision,
00:20:00.240 section 45,
00:20:01.580 in the Elections,
00:20:02.700 Finance,
00:20:03.340 and Contribution Disclosure Act,
00:20:05.100 which creates an offense
00:20:06.660 for withholding documents.
00:20:08.300 Please have a look
00:20:09.060 at that provision, Sheila.
00:20:10.180 It is a serious offense.
00:20:12.540 Our office has been asking
00:20:13.940 for these documents
00:20:14.960 and records
00:20:15.640 for several months now.
00:20:17.520 You have not provided them
00:20:18.760 and have not provided
00:20:20.260 a reason why.
00:20:21.460 This is becoming a concern.
00:20:23.900 I'm a journalist
00:20:24.800 who criticized the government
00:20:25.960 and now the government
00:20:26.860 is demanding
00:20:27.700 my private notes
00:20:29.280 saying I'll be prosecuted
00:20:31.040 for a serious offense
00:20:32.280 if I don't hand them over.
00:20:33.900 And it gets worse.
00:20:35.420 In the kangaroo court
00:20:36.740 of the election commissioner,
00:20:38.160 I don't have a right
00:20:39.260 not to testify against myself
00:20:41.080 like any other Canadian
00:20:42.420 in legal jeopardy.
00:20:43.880 I don't even have
00:20:44.540 the same rights
00:20:45.140 as a murderer
00:20:45.700 to remain silent
00:20:46.860 in this investigation.
00:20:48.500 I can be compelled
00:20:49.280 to offer evidence
00:20:50.240 against myself
00:20:51.100 and forced
00:20:52.120 to hand over my notes.
00:20:53.780 I want you to know
00:20:54.540 that I've spoken
00:20:55.100 to my family
00:20:55.800 a lot about the possibility
00:20:57.420 of being prosecuted.
00:20:58.880 And of course,
00:20:59.400 I've spoken to Ezra
00:21:00.340 and like with everything
00:21:01.540 that troubles me,
00:21:02.640 I've prayed on this.
00:21:03.940 And we all agree
00:21:04.700 that if that's what
00:21:06.280 it comes down to,
00:21:07.720 prosecutions
00:21:08.400 and serious fines
00:21:09.240 or bending a knee
00:21:10.120 to the state
00:21:10.640 on the issue
00:21:11.200 of free speech,
00:21:12.360 then I won't be complying
00:21:13.820 with any demand
00:21:14.800 from the state
00:21:15.340 to produce documents
00:21:16.540 about why
00:21:17.240 and when
00:21:18.120 I wrote a book
00:21:19.000 that is critical
00:21:19.600 of the government
00:21:20.160 of the day.
00:21:21.140 I'll do what I have to do,
00:21:22.380 but I won't back down
00:21:23.600 and I'm not giving in.
00:21:24.760 They are not getting
00:21:25.520 a single thing
00:21:26.560 out of me.
00:21:27.600 This is a free country
00:21:28.640 with a constitution
00:21:29.520 that protects me.
00:21:31.180 And unfortunately
00:21:31.920 for the elections commish,
00:21:33.780 Albertans have a long tradition
00:21:35.500 of civil disobedience
00:21:36.840 against bad laws
00:21:37.920 from those who refused
00:21:39.420 to register
00:21:40.100 their grandpa's guns
00:21:41.220 when the liberals
00:21:41.880 told them to
00:21:42.680 to Western farmers
00:21:44.020 who were jailed
00:21:44.800 by the liberals
00:21:45.460 for selling their own wheat.
00:21:47.340 I also want to assure you
00:21:48.780 that I have the full support
00:21:50.560 of the entire rebel team
00:21:51.840 behind me.
00:21:52.840 I want to be completely
00:21:54.060 transparent now with you.
00:21:55.740 We have already spent
00:21:56.800 $32,000 in legal fees
00:21:58.760 fighting this up till now
00:21:59.960 and we just received
00:22:00.780 another bill for $16,000.
00:22:02.800 So all told,
00:22:03.540 we're $48,000 deep
00:22:05.220 in legal fees
00:22:05.860 to fight for my free speech
00:22:07.260 and my right to give you
00:22:09.080 information about the government
00:22:10.580 that the government
00:22:11.520 doesn't want you to have.
00:22:12.920 That's a huge legal bill
00:22:14.040 but we have the best
00:22:15.240 free speech lawyer
00:22:16.100 in Alberta
00:22:16.660 and we will win
00:22:17.940 if we can see this
00:22:18.960 through till the end.
00:22:20.320 The trouble is
00:22:21.260 unlike the elections commissioner
00:22:22.740 we don't have
00:22:23.660 bottomless pockets
00:22:24.660 constantly refilled
00:22:25.880 by the taxpayer
00:22:26.680 to go around
00:22:27.820 bullying people.
00:22:28.800 We're crowdfunded
00:22:29.420 by people like you.
00:22:30.720 We fight on
00:22:31.340 I fight on
00:22:32.320 because people like you
00:22:33.400 want me to.
00:22:34.480 I'm going public
00:22:35.540 with this today
00:22:36.560 after a three month fight
00:22:38.420 because they're coming
00:22:39.540 for me now.
00:22:40.280 I need your help now
00:22:41.340 more than ever.
00:22:42.200 I need your support.
00:22:43.540 I need your help
00:22:44.380 to offset our
00:22:45.400 ballooning legal bills.
00:22:47.120 Can you help me?
00:22:47.800 You can do that
00:22:49.080 at SaveSheila.com
00:22:50.920 and please share this video
00:22:52.280 so the whole world knows
00:22:53.980 what Rachel Notley Swamp
00:22:55.340 is still trying to do
00:22:56.580 to freedom of the press
00:22:57.800 in Alberta.
00:22:58.800 But I'm also calling
00:22:59.960 on my friends
00:23:00.660 my colleagues
00:23:01.620 my frenemies
00:23:03.020 and even my enemies
00:23:04.420 in the rest of the media.
00:23:06.400 Now's your time
00:23:07.080 to stand up
00:23:07.920 and be counted.
00:23:09.300 Do you stand
00:23:10.000 for free speech?
00:23:11.120 Do you stand
00:23:11.960 for a free press?
00:23:13.480 Or do you stand aside
00:23:14.760 and say nothing
00:23:15.560 because you don't like
00:23:16.600 me or my boss
00:23:17.920 more than you like
00:23:18.820 being able to say
00:23:19.760 what you want to say
00:23:21.020 when you want to say it
00:23:22.220 without Big Brother
00:23:23.260 weighing in?
00:23:24.680 Is the Edmonton Journal
00:23:25.600 the same one
00:23:26.440 that won a Pulitzer Prize
00:23:27.620 for their fight
00:23:28.360 for the free press
00:23:29.340 against the
00:23:29.820 Aberhart government?
00:23:30.980 Or are they just
00:23:32.060 government pets
00:23:33.140 here in 2019?
00:23:34.900 I promise everyone today
00:23:36.160 we are going to resist
00:23:37.300 every single attempt
00:23:38.720 to bully, interrogate
00:23:39.980 and intimidate me
00:23:40.980 every step of the way.
00:23:42.600 And when we are done
00:23:43.460 with these people
00:23:44.100 and when we do win
00:23:45.320 it's my hope
00:23:46.220 that Rachel Notley's
00:23:47.140 terrible law
00:23:47.760 will be struck down
00:23:48.820 and the Office
00:23:49.820 of the Elections Commissioner
00:23:50.980 as we know it
00:23:52.100 will be no more.
00:23:54.100 If you can help me
00:23:55.060 with this very important fight
00:23:56.820 please go to
00:23:58.540 SaveSheila.com
00:24:00.680 I want to add
00:24:01.500 one more detail
00:24:02.260 about the man
00:24:03.760 who's coming to get Sheila.
00:24:05.700 There are two ex-cops
00:24:07.340 being sent after us
00:24:09.280 by Notley's
00:24:09.900 hunter killer
00:24:10.420 Owen Gibson.
00:24:12.220 One of those ex-cops
00:24:13.280 is named Ken Brander.
00:24:14.500 He's the disgraced
00:24:15.420 Edmonton police officer
00:24:17.480 if you're from Alberta
00:24:18.820 maybe you know
00:24:19.540 that one terrible day
00:24:21.520 about 15 years ago
00:24:22.520 he was driving
00:24:23.620 his unmarked police car
00:24:25.080 and he raced it
00:24:26.660 through an intersection
00:24:28.700 in a car chase
00:24:30.180 but without his siren
00:24:32.300 or his lights on.
00:24:33.620 Just no warning
00:24:34.400 to any innocent people.
00:24:36.540 He was tearing down
00:24:37.820 a city street
00:24:38.520 at least 120 kilometers
00:24:40.240 an hour.
00:24:41.000 Some experts said
00:24:41.780 it would have been
00:24:42.240 much higher than that.
00:24:43.160 And here's what
00:24:45.020 the judge said
00:24:45.660 he said
00:24:46.060 it was there
00:24:48.440 that an unmarked
00:24:49.740 police car
00:24:50.240 being driven eastbound
00:24:51.140 at a high rate of speed
00:24:52.040 by Kenneth Brander
00:24:52.880 crashed broadside
00:24:55.020 into Carlos Ramirez's
00:24:56.220 Tempo
00:24:56.580 as it turned left
00:24:57.780 across the police car's path.
00:24:59.400 As a result of the crash
00:25:00.380 Carlos Ramirez's
00:25:01.360 grandson
00:25:01.900 Giovanni
00:25:02.880 was killed.
00:25:04.940 His grandson
00:25:05.480 Jonathan
00:25:05.980 was seriously injured
00:25:07.320 and he and his daughter
00:25:09.000 Gloria
00:25:09.440 were injured.
00:25:10.380 So this dirty cop
00:25:12.860 that the court said
00:25:13.700 was negligent
00:25:14.620 he was found
00:25:15.220 negligent.
00:25:17.000 He killed one child
00:25:17.920 he maimed another child
00:25:19.000 so badly
00:25:19.640 his hands were burned off
00:25:21.220 and he injured the family
00:25:22.760 the city paid out
00:25:23.880 millions of dollars
00:25:24.960 to the family
00:25:25.820 to clean up
00:25:26.340 Brander's mess
00:25:26.940 and instead of going away
00:25:28.660 to live a life
00:25:30.320 of reflection
00:25:31.220 and penitence
00:25:32.520 and maybe even
00:25:33.520 to try to seek
00:25:34.320 redemption
00:25:34.800 that child killer
00:25:37.620 went to work
00:25:38.960 for the government
00:25:40.120 he was hired
00:25:41.020 by Lauren Gibson
00:25:42.640 to investigate
00:25:45.020 Rachel Notley's
00:25:45.960 personal enemies
00:25:47.240 Brander
00:25:49.640 that child killer
00:25:51.100 is the great
00:25:51.740 moral authority
00:25:52.560 coming to silence
00:25:54.060 Sheila
00:25:54.420 I wonder if he even
00:25:55.340 has a soul
00:25:56.080 if he ever did
00:25:57.600 or if his sense
00:25:59.140 of good and evil
00:25:59.740 was finally
00:26:00.460 and fully extinguished
00:26:02.040 when he killed
00:26:02.920 that boy
00:26:03.420 and forever damaged
00:26:04.860 a family
00:26:05.340 Rachel Notley
00:26:06.340 is low
00:26:06.880 for coming after us
00:26:07.760 her appointee
00:26:08.740 Lauren Gibson
00:26:09.340 is a bizarre
00:26:10.300 unbalanced partisan
00:26:11.660 but the actual
00:26:13.540 ex-cop
00:26:14.360 this dirty
00:26:15.240 ex-cop
00:26:16.220 they have sent
00:26:16.980 after our Sheila
00:26:18.120 is literally
00:26:19.460 a man who
00:26:20.520 because of his
00:26:21.200 negligence
00:26:21.900 killed a child
00:26:24.340 because he couldn't
00:26:25.320 be bothered
00:26:25.960 to put on his lights
00:26:27.320 and his sirens
00:26:28.360 as he raced
00:26:29.280 down the city streets
00:26:30.460 I am so furious
00:26:32.220 but let me calm down
00:26:33.400 let me calm down
00:26:34.820 and let us now talk
00:26:36.440 to our Sheila
00:26:37.880 and how we are going
00:26:40.460 to save her
00:26:41.920 from these butchers
00:26:43.840 and joining me now
00:26:59.680 is a person
00:27:00.740 who the NDP
00:27:02.120 wants to make
00:27:03.000 the victim
00:27:03.800 of the story
00:27:05.380 but she shall not
00:27:06.500 be made a victim
00:27:07.260 she
00:27:07.760 shall be our hero
00:27:09.480 and champion
00:27:10.180 not just for her own
00:27:11.440 interests
00:27:11.860 but for ours
00:27:13.220 and by ours
00:27:14.240 I don't just mean
00:27:14.920 the rebel
00:27:15.260 I mean ours
00:27:15.900 and yours
00:27:16.420 and any Canadian
00:27:17.680 who believes
00:27:18.380 in freedom of the press
00:27:19.860 and the right
00:27:20.780 for an author
00:27:21.320 to criticize
00:27:21.880 the government
00:27:22.480 without punishment
00:27:23.260 our dear friend
00:27:25.060 Sheila Gunn-Reed
00:27:26.220 Sheila great to see you
00:27:27.340 hey thanks for having
00:27:29.180 me on the show
00:27:29.720 I want to let you know
00:27:31.740 publicly
00:27:32.320 as I've let you know
00:27:33.160 privately so many times
00:27:34.260 over the last few months
00:27:35.120 we stand with you
00:27:36.760 completely
00:27:37.960 and we will do
00:27:39.420 everything
00:27:40.020 and anything
00:27:41.040 in our power
00:27:42.180 and our resources
00:27:43.140 to defend your rights
00:27:44.880 and we will protect
00:27:45.680 you all the way
00:27:46.460 well I think
00:27:48.400 that's been evidently
00:27:49.760 clear
00:27:50.260 with the amount
00:27:51.000 of support
00:27:51.460 the company
00:27:51.920 has given me
00:27:52.680 up till now
00:27:53.480 I think we're
00:27:55.580 approaching nearly
00:27:56.500 $50,000
00:27:57.360 in legal fees
00:27:58.500 already dealing
00:27:59.620 with the elections
00:28:00.800 commissioner
00:28:01.400 that's all
00:28:02.640 being paid
00:28:03.620 by the rebel
00:28:05.000 I couldn't
00:28:05.660 there's no way
00:28:06.500 that I could
00:28:07.220 ask my family
00:28:08.560 to pay those sorts
00:28:09.540 of legal fees
00:28:10.720 to fight for free speech
00:28:12.020 and I've been indemnified
00:28:13.780 by the rebel
00:28:14.460 to go out there
00:28:15.760 and fight for the
00:28:16.720 free press
00:28:17.340 here in Alberta
00:28:18.100 well we're grateful
00:28:19.660 to you
00:28:20.120 and I know
00:28:21.140 this is not the first
00:28:22.180 time to use
00:28:23.320 an Alberta phrase
00:28:24.040 this isn't your first rodeo
00:28:25.320 you have been targeted
00:28:27.140 by Rachel Notley's
00:28:28.620 NDP several times
00:28:29.660 she kicked you
00:28:30.280 out of the legislature
00:28:31.660 she
00:28:32.320 banned you
00:28:34.260 from all government
00:28:35.060 events
00:28:35.700 you know
00:28:37.180 other governments
00:28:37.940 have tried the same thing
00:28:38.820 and we fought back
00:28:39.660 every time
00:28:40.180 we do keep winning
00:28:41.640 but they put us
00:28:43.320 through this
00:28:43.680 $50,000
00:28:44.360 $200,000
00:28:45.220 process
00:28:45.720 last year
00:28:46.620 we spent
00:28:47.420 $350,000
00:28:48.740 on lawyers
00:28:49.480 that's basically
00:28:50.440 $1,000 a day
00:28:51.620 on lawyers
00:28:52.620 and 90% of it
00:28:54.280 is defensive
00:28:55.320 protection
00:28:56.160 against censors
00:28:57.220 yeah I think
00:28:58.960 a lot of people
00:28:59.560 don't really realize
00:29:01.100 how often
00:29:02.620 we turn to our lawyers
00:29:04.540 to make sure
00:29:05.580 that we aren't
00:29:06.520 crossing
00:29:07.300 any sort of
00:29:08.280 legal lines
00:29:09.100 when we
00:29:09.720 go after
00:29:11.560 the people
00:29:12.200 in power
00:29:13.640 that we're
00:29:14.220 critical of
00:29:14.980 because these people
00:29:16.120 would love
00:29:16.780 to see the rebel
00:29:17.960 shut down
00:29:18.560 they'd love
00:29:19.420 to see us
00:29:20.040 slapped with
00:29:20.900 libel
00:29:21.840 lawsuits
00:29:22.740 they'd love
00:29:23.920 to use
00:29:24.420 lawfare
00:29:25.080 against us
00:29:25.860 to bankrupt us
00:29:27.020 so we are
00:29:27.560 very careful
00:29:28.440 I guess
00:29:29.860 we use
00:29:30.880 lawyers like
00:29:31.740 a prophylactic
00:29:32.520 to make sure
00:29:33.160 that we don't
00:29:33.600 get ourselves
00:29:34.260 in trouble
00:29:34.980 when we're
00:29:36.380 doing our
00:29:37.040 stories
00:29:37.700 and it's
00:29:38.460 so important
00:29:39.120 because
00:29:40.240 any mistake
00:29:41.480 that we do
00:29:42.300 make
00:29:42.640 any line
00:29:43.100 that we do
00:29:43.500 cross
00:29:43.860 is just
00:29:44.220 another reason
00:29:44.860 for our
00:29:45.200 critics
00:29:45.420 to try
00:29:45.820 to shut
00:29:46.140 us down
00:29:46.540 yeah I mean
00:29:47.520 this whole
00:29:48.040 conversation
00:29:48.560 is absurd
00:29:49.300 you wrote
00:29:49.760 a book
00:29:50.200 about the
00:29:51.260 premier
00:29:51.580 of Alberta
00:29:52.140 criticizing
00:29:53.140 the premier
00:29:53.760 of Alberta
00:29:54.240 it couldn't
00:29:55.400 have been
00:29:55.620 more transparent
00:29:56.440 everyone knows
00:29:57.640 where you're
00:29:58.000 coming from
00:29:58.440 you are
00:29:58.920 an accountability
00:29:59.940 style journalist
00:30:00.940 who has been
00:30:01.700 covering Rachel
00:30:02.360 Notley
00:30:02.700 her whole
00:30:03.840 time as
00:30:04.720 premier
00:30:05.120 you've had
00:30:06.240 best selling
00:30:07.300 books before
00:30:07.960 none of this
00:30:09.000 is remarkable
00:30:10.280 in any way
00:30:11.280 none of it
00:30:11.920 is unusual
00:30:12.940 journalists
00:30:14.700 publish books
00:30:15.560 authors publish
00:30:16.460 books
00:30:16.840 they are often
00:30:17.880 opinionated
00:30:18.620 there is nothing
00:30:19.980 strange or
00:30:21.440 unusual or
00:30:22.440 remarkable here
00:30:23.360 other than
00:30:23.900 your success
00:30:25.920 is great
00:30:27.120 for them
00:30:27.900 to prosecute
00:30:28.820 you
00:30:29.060 investigate
00:30:29.700 you
00:30:30.300 threaten
00:30:30.900 you
00:30:31.320 and try
00:30:32.380 to cut
00:30:32.840 you off
00:30:33.240 from us
00:30:33.820 try to
00:30:34.520 cut you
00:30:34.920 off from
00:30:35.280 your lawyer
00:30:35.680 talk to
00:30:36.080 you directly
00:30:36.580 instead of
00:30:37.060 your lawyer
00:30:37.400 talk to
00:30:38.080 you instead
00:30:38.540 I've never
00:30:39.160 received a
00:30:39.700 letter from
00:30:40.040 these people
00:30:40.500 even though
00:30:41.220 I am
00:30:41.720 the publisher
00:30:42.480 the rebel
00:30:43.260 and I
00:30:44.140 are your
00:30:44.760 publishers
00:30:45.220 were the
00:30:45.660 ones who
00:30:46.120 did the
00:30:47.120 business side
00:30:47.820 of things
00:30:48.200 they're picking
00:30:49.300 on you
00:30:50.160 and they're
00:30:51.260 not coming
00:30:51.760 for us
00:30:52.300 and I
00:30:52.760 find that
00:30:53.460 noteworthy
00:30:54.320 and frankly
00:30:54.940 despicable
00:30:55.600 yeah I think
00:30:57.400 it's pretty
00:30:58.560 tricky
00:30:59.140 you can see
00:31:00.340 in the
00:31:01.060 voice
00:31:02.400 in the phone
00:31:04.500 calls that I
00:31:04.940 recorded with
00:31:05.600 the investigator
00:31:06.280 Ken Brander
00:31:07.000 we're cordial
00:31:07.720 enough
00:31:08.180 for sure
00:31:08.900 I'm not a
00:31:10.100 miserable person
00:31:11.000 but I am
00:31:12.760 completely aware
00:31:13.860 that it is
00:31:14.680 his job
00:31:15.380 to trip me
00:31:16.500 up and catch
00:31:17.260 me doing
00:31:17.700 something wrong
00:31:18.600 and I've
00:31:19.460 done nothing
00:31:20.160 wrong
00:31:20.920 but the
00:31:22.860 fact that
00:31:23.360 he persists
00:31:24.060 in communicating
00:31:24.840 with me
00:31:25.440 when I've
00:31:26.180 told him
00:31:26.480 from the
00:31:26.800 very beginning
00:31:27.360 who my
00:31:28.260 lawyer is
00:31:29.000 and that
00:31:30.340 he should
00:31:30.780 be communicating
00:31:31.500 with my
00:31:32.100 lawyer or
00:31:32.580 that I
00:31:32.940 would be
00:31:33.220 getting in
00:31:33.640 touch with
00:31:34.000 my lawyer
00:31:34.540 and yet
00:31:35.600 he still
00:31:36.140 insists on
00:31:36.780 talking to
00:31:37.480 me and
00:31:38.400 you know
00:31:38.980 talking to
00:31:39.440 me very
00:31:39.880 casually
00:31:40.800 and another
00:31:42.160 thing he's
00:31:42.560 refusing to
00:31:43.020 do is
00:31:43.280 refusing to
00:31:43.800 send answers
00:31:45.200 to my
00:31:45.480 questions in
00:31:45.980 writing
00:31:46.260 he prefers to
00:31:47.180 speak to
00:31:47.880 me in
00:31:48.860 phone calls
00:31:49.380 I find that
00:31:50.140 entirely
00:31:50.740 unprofessional
00:31:51.640 and pretty
00:31:52.620 darn tricky
00:31:53.900 I think it's
00:31:55.400 his goal
00:31:55.860 I mean he's
00:31:56.420 a former
00:31:56.740 police officer
00:31:57.480 it's his
00:31:58.160 goal to
00:31:58.840 try to
00:31:59.120 trip me
00:31:59.480 up and
00:32:00.100 you know
00:32:00.600 get me
00:32:01.020 to say
00:32:01.620 or admit
00:32:02.180 to doing
00:32:02.680 something
00:32:03.280 wrong
00:32:03.960 when I've
00:32:04.360 done nothing
00:32:04.900 wrong
00:32:05.280 yeah
00:32:05.640 you know
00:32:06.360 I had not
00:32:07.240 heard of
00:32:07.720 Ken Brander
00:32:08.380 before
00:32:08.680 why would
00:32:09.200 I
00:32:09.440 he's a
00:32:10.320 former cop
00:32:10.820 from Edmonton
00:32:11.380 I think he
00:32:11.920 left the
00:32:12.320 force
00:32:12.680 about 15
00:32:14.600 years ago
00:32:15.280 so I
00:32:16.480 mean I
00:32:16.760 lived in
00:32:17.160 Edmonton
00:32:17.480 for a few
00:32:17.920 years but
00:32:18.340 I never
00:32:19.540 heard of him
00:32:19.900 why would
00:32:20.220 I
00:32:20.400 but I
00:32:22.040 see now
00:32:22.720 just from
00:32:23.200 googling his
00:32:23.800 name
00:32:24.240 that he
00:32:25.840 didn't leave
00:32:26.560 the force
00:32:27.200 as a hero
00:32:27.940 he didn't
00:32:28.980 retire after
00:32:29.960 like 40
00:32:30.840 years of
00:32:31.380 service
00:32:31.780 he left
00:32:33.200 in disgrace
00:32:34.200 and shame
00:32:36.220 and I
00:32:37.640 don't want to
00:32:37.980 get into
00:32:38.260 details because
00:32:38.860 it's not an
00:32:39.240 important part
00:32:39.840 of the story
00:32:40.220 but it is
00:32:40.660 part of the
00:32:41.200 story here
00:32:41.740 he was
00:32:43.220 racing his
00:32:45.140 police car
00:32:45.760 his unmarked
00:32:46.420 car on the
00:32:47.660 street he was
00:32:48.360 chasing someone
00:32:49.300 he did not
00:32:50.460 put his
00:32:50.900 siren on
00:32:51.540 he did not
00:32:52.500 put his
00:32:53.100 flashing lights
00:32:53.820 on and he
00:32:54.860 was racing
00:32:55.720 120-130
00:32:56.880 kilometers an
00:32:57.580 hour on a
00:32:58.520 city street
00:32:59.180 and he
00:33:00.220 hit a car
00:33:02.260 of a family
00:33:03.440 he immediately
00:33:05.780 killed one
00:33:06.760 he killed
00:33:08.440 one child
00:33:09.100 the gas tank
00:33:10.540 exploded it
00:33:11.220 burned the
00:33:11.780 hands off
00:33:12.400 another child
00:33:13.140 it injured
00:33:14.220 others in
00:33:14.860 the car
00:33:15.280 he killed
00:33:17.140 a child
00:33:18.180 and maimed
00:33:18.960 for life
00:33:19.480 another child
00:33:20.380 and a
00:33:21.940 court found
00:33:22.640 him quote
00:33:23.340 negligent
00:33:25.140 they didn't
00:33:26.380 say he
00:33:26.740 committed a
00:33:27.260 crime
00:33:27.680 but they
00:33:28.340 said he
00:33:28.720 was negligent
00:33:29.760 and he
00:33:30.340 was unreasonable
00:33:31.420 he killed
00:33:33.240 a child
00:33:34.200 he ruined
00:33:35.400 lives
00:33:36.280 and instead
00:33:37.560 of resigning
00:33:38.580 in disgrace
00:33:39.240 and going
00:33:39.840 away to
00:33:40.740 find some
00:33:41.580 sort of
00:33:41.980 redemption
00:33:42.380 in life
00:33:42.980 he has
00:33:44.460 found himself
00:33:45.540 investigating
00:33:47.220 journalists
00:33:48.140 and threatening
00:33:49.240 journalists
00:33:49.960 and threatening
00:33:50.560 to prosecute
00:33:51.340 journalists
00:33:51.740 I'm sorry
00:33:52.720 I refuse to
00:33:53.620 take any
00:33:54.120 moral lessons
00:33:55.220 from a
00:33:56.160 child killer
00:33:57.020 Sheila
00:33:57.700 and I know
00:33:58.400 the people
00:33:58.880 might say
00:33:59.260 what's that
00:33:59.640 got to do
00:34:00.080 with it
00:34:00.440 well that's
00:34:01.580 the kind
00:34:02.020 of people
00:34:02.480 telling you
00:34:03.220 you don't
00:34:03.800 have your
00:34:04.220 constitutional
00:34:04.880 freedom of
00:34:05.880 speech
00:34:06.180 I think
00:34:07.100 this Ken
00:34:07.600 Brander
00:34:08.060 should spend
00:34:08.760 a lifetime
00:34:09.320 in repentance
00:34:10.300 for killing
00:34:11.220 a child
00:34:11.780 well and
00:34:14.060 just doing
00:34:15.100 some cursory
00:34:15.760 research on
00:34:16.460 what happened
00:34:17.060 there it
00:34:17.480 sounds like
00:34:17.900 the city
00:34:18.560 of Edmonton
00:34:19.500 paid out
00:34:20.140 roughly
00:34:20.940 five million
00:34:21.940 dollars to
00:34:22.700 the family
00:34:23.300 that was
00:34:24.420 devastated by
00:34:25.260 Brander's
00:34:25.780 actions that
00:34:26.680 day and
00:34:28.620 really in
00:34:29.320 I don't know
00:34:30.420 what Brander's
00:34:31.300 done since
00:34:31.900 then to try
00:34:32.720 to make it
00:34:33.180 right but
00:34:34.040 he has gone
00:34:34.680 on to have
00:34:35.140 a pretty
00:34:35.460 successful
00:34:35.980 career in
00:34:36.700 private
00:34:37.120 investigations
00:34:38.040 including the
00:34:38.780 current contract
00:34:39.460 he has with
00:34:40.700 the Alberta
00:34:41.540 government to
00:34:42.240 investigate
00:34:42.880 journalists for
00:34:43.740 doing journalism
00:34:44.480 and moreover
00:34:46.720 to the point
00:34:47.280 of just the
00:34:47.820 sheer cost
00:34:48.400 to the
00:34:48.700 taxpayer
00:34:49.200 caused by
00:34:49.820 Ken Brander
00:34:50.500 I know
00:34:51.180 we are
00:34:51.900 close to
00:34:52.440 fifty thousand
00:34:53.120 dollars in
00:34:54.620 legal fees
00:34:55.340 plus all the
00:34:56.160 time and
00:34:57.200 man hours that
00:34:57.840 you and I
00:34:58.320 have been
00:34:58.560 putting into
00:34:59.000 all of this
00:34:59.640 to fight
00:35:00.640 back
00:35:01.000 what is his
00:35:01.900 investigation
00:35:02.480 of me
00:35:03.160 the journalist
00:35:03.780 costing the
00:35:04.600 taxpayer
00:35:04.980 what is his
00:35:05.880 contract right
00:35:06.720 now look like
00:35:07.900 that Rachel
00:35:08.560 Notley gave
00:35:09.600 him to come
00:35:10.140 after me
00:35:10.800 yeah yeah
00:35:11.740 I'd be very
00:35:12.140 curious about
00:35:12.660 that and
00:35:12.960 that's what's
00:35:13.400 so weird
00:35:13.840 here and I
00:35:14.500 know some
00:35:14.860 of our viewers
00:35:15.320 must be
00:35:15.720 saying hang
00:35:16.440 on isn't
00:35:17.420 Jason Kenney
00:35:18.220 the premier
00:35:18.740 of Alberta
00:35:19.180 now hang
00:35:20.020 on how
00:35:20.780 come Rachel
00:35:21.880 Notley's
00:35:22.420 handpicked
00:35:22.940 election
00:35:23.340 commissioner
00:35:23.820 is still
00:35:24.800 persecuting
00:35:26.000 the rebel
00:35:26.400 well the
00:35:26.680 answer is
00:35:27.300 that handpicked
00:35:28.800 Rachel Notley
00:35:29.400 appointee named
00:35:30.100 Lorne Gibson
00:35:30.560 he's still the
00:35:31.800 election commissioner
00:35:32.500 Jason Kenney
00:35:33.220 has not
00:35:33.760 turfed him
00:35:34.820 he's still
00:35:35.580 following Rachel
00:35:37.760 Notley's
00:35:38.300 battle plan
00:35:39.040 and really
00:35:40.280 public enemy
00:35:40.860 number one
00:35:41.320 to the NDP
00:35:41.840 in the media
00:35:43.260 was always
00:35:43.880 you Sheila
00:35:44.440 they've come
00:35:44.880 for you
00:35:45.140 time and
00:35:45.440 again
00:35:45.680 it's
00:35:46.520 disgraceful
00:35:47.540 that he's
00:35:47.980 doing it
00:35:48.400 but it
00:35:48.800 blows me
00:35:49.360 away
00:35:49.680 that Jason
00:35:50.620 Kenney
00:35:50.980 is his
00:35:51.440 boss
00:35:51.880 and Jason
00:35:52.900 Kenney
00:35:53.240 is allowing
00:35:53.780 this to
00:35:54.220 happen
00:35:54.620 and forget
00:35:56.580 about partisan
00:35:57.160 politics
00:35:57.600 this is
00:35:58.060 unconstitutional
00:35:59.000 and it's
00:35:59.760 un-Albertan
00:36:00.380 it is
00:36:02.240 but I think
00:36:03.380 because of
00:36:04.200 the current
00:36:04.760 investigations
00:36:05.660 by the
00:36:06.480 elections
00:36:06.960 commissioner
00:36:07.920 into the
00:36:09.780 leadership
00:36:10.580 contest
00:36:11.980 with the
00:36:12.600 united
00:36:12.900 conservative
00:36:13.400 party
00:36:14.020 and the
00:36:14.900 fact that
00:36:15.400 this
00:36:15.740 investigator
00:36:16.420 the one
00:36:17.080 that's
00:36:17.440 coming after
00:36:18.000 me
00:36:18.280 just a
00:36:19.660 week ago
00:36:20.340 issued
00:36:21.040 $91,000
00:36:22.400 in fines
00:36:23.200 to
00:36:23.980 participants
00:36:25.700 in the
00:36:26.240 UCP
00:36:26.840 leadership
00:36:27.380 race
00:36:28.240 for what
00:36:29.180 they're
00:36:29.400 calling
00:36:29.760 a
00:36:30.120 kamikaze
00:36:31.040 campaign
00:36:31.600 Jason
00:36:33.280 Kenney
00:36:33.620 can't
00:36:34.340 nuke
00:36:34.880 the
00:36:35.280 office
00:36:35.840 of the
00:36:36.680 elections
00:36:37.180 commissioner
00:36:37.740 as an
00:36:38.380 unconstitutional
00:36:39.520 catastrophe
00:36:40.260 that falls
00:36:41.580 on us
00:36:42.080 he's
00:36:42.620 politically
00:36:43.060 unable
00:36:43.620 to deal
00:36:44.120 with this
00:36:44.560 because of
00:36:45.160 problems
00:36:45.600 within the
00:36:46.080 UCP
00:36:46.620 so it
00:36:47.220 absolutely
00:36:47.700 falls on
00:36:48.440 us to
00:36:48.780 fight this
00:36:49.280 fight
00:36:49.580 alone
00:36:49.920 it's
00:36:50.980 terrifying
00:36:51.520 to see
00:36:52.240 you mentioned
00:36:52.680 those
00:36:52.900 $91,000
00:36:53.920 in fines
00:36:54.920 he handed
00:36:55.980 out
00:36:56.420 I've
00:36:58.420 told you
00:36:58.700 this
00:36:58.860 privately
00:36:59.300 our lawyers
00:37:00.320 know this
00:37:00.920 and again
00:37:01.340 I'll just
00:37:01.640 say it
00:37:01.920 on the
00:37:02.160 record
00:37:02.420 we will
00:37:03.400 not
00:37:03.780 allow
00:37:04.560 him
00:37:05.720 to touch
00:37:06.460 one hair
00:37:07.060 on your
00:37:07.500 head
00:37:07.880 and God
00:37:08.700 forbid
00:37:09.160 if he
00:37:10.340 does fine
00:37:11.180 you
00:37:11.360 $10,000
00:37:12.140 or even
00:37:13.040 God forbid
00:37:13.600 $91,000
00:37:14.620 obviously
00:37:15.960 we will
00:37:16.620 hold you
00:37:17.680 harmless
00:37:18.060 and we
00:37:18.620 will
00:37:18.880 cover that
00:37:19.700 now we
00:37:20.280 don't have
00:37:20.660 a mountain
00:37:21.020 of dollars
00:37:22.360 sitting around
00:37:22.880 here we
00:37:23.160 will crowd
00:37:23.660 fund it
00:37:23.980 because
00:37:24.240 Sheila
00:37:24.540 I believe
00:37:25.320 that
00:37:26.120 hundreds
00:37:26.980 of
00:37:27.260 thousands
00:37:27.600 of
00:37:27.820 Albertans
00:37:28.280 and indeed
00:37:28.860 people
00:37:29.600 across
00:37:30.000 Canada
00:37:30.360 and even
00:37:30.660 around
00:37:30.920 the
00:37:31.100 world
00:37:31.360 value
00:37:32.420 your
00:37:32.920 journalism
00:37:33.520 substantively
00:37:34.680 but even
00:37:35.500 if they
00:37:35.780 disagree
00:37:36.140 with you
00:37:36.700 they know
00:37:37.700 that if
00:37:38.200 a journalist
00:37:39.500 like you
00:37:40.080 can be
00:37:40.460 prosecuted
00:37:41.140 for writing
00:37:41.560 a book
00:37:41.800 about a
00:37:42.100 politician
00:37:42.480 none of
00:37:43.340 us have
00:37:43.760 our
00:37:43.980 freedoms
00:37:44.340 and so
00:37:44.720 I hope
00:37:45.260 that other
00:37:46.380 reporters
00:37:46.940 who don't
00:37:47.760 much like
00:37:48.380 the cut
00:37:48.980 of your
00:37:49.260 jib
00:37:49.600 because
00:37:50.120 you're
00:37:50.280 conservative
00:37:50.740 and they're
00:37:51.120 left-wing
00:37:51.500 activists
00:37:51.980 this is
00:37:53.420 beyond that
00:37:54.000 now
00:37:54.240 this isn't
00:37:54.720 even about
00:37:55.400 what you
00:37:56.700 wrote
00:37:57.040 it's about
00:37:58.580 does a
00:37:59.220 government
00:37:59.580 have the
00:38:00.380 power
00:38:00.780 to harass
00:38:02.520 a journalist
00:38:03.060 and say
00:38:03.780 you give us
00:38:04.380 your editorial
00:38:04.980 notes
00:38:05.540 your memos
00:38:06.440 your emails
00:38:07.360 give it to us
00:38:08.300 now
00:38:08.600 and if you
00:38:10.100 don't we will
00:38:10.580 have quote
00:38:11.040 severe
00:38:11.820 consequences
00:38:12.980 I don't care if
00:38:14.000 you're at the
00:38:14.360 Calgary Herald
00:38:14.880 the Edmonton
00:38:15.420 Journal
00:38:15.700 Global News
00:38:16.500 even the
00:38:17.740 government
00:38:18.020 reporters at
00:38:18.640 the CBC
00:38:19.180 surely
00:38:19.700 they have a
00:38:20.520 tiny little
00:38:21.180 cell in their
00:38:21.880 body called
00:38:22.880 press freedom
00:38:23.540 that says
00:38:23.940 you know
00:38:24.180 what
00:38:24.340 I might
00:38:24.620 not like
00:38:25.020 that
00:38:25.200 Sheila
00:38:25.440 Gunn
00:38:25.700 read
00:38:25.900 but damn
00:38:26.560 it
00:38:26.700 it's
00:38:27.640 outrageous
00:38:28.360 that the
00:38:28.820 government
00:38:29.120 is demanding
00:38:29.880 she hand
00:38:30.420 over her
00:38:30.820 editorial
00:38:31.220 notes
00:38:31.740 yeah
00:38:33.200 you know
00:38:33.960 it's going
00:38:34.200 to be
00:38:34.400 interesting
00:38:34.760 to see
00:38:35.340 if
00:38:35.700 the
00:38:36.480 Edmonton
00:38:37.040 Journal
00:38:37.340 in 2019
00:38:38.200 is the
00:38:38.760 same
00:38:38.980 Edmonton
00:38:39.500 Journal
00:38:39.740 that
00:38:40.020 fought
00:38:40.360 the
00:38:40.600 Eberhard
00:38:41.180 government
00:38:41.780 and won
00:38:43.080 and won
00:38:43.580 a Pulitzer
00:38:43.980 Prize
00:38:44.480 for their
00:38:44.900 defense
00:38:45.280 of press
00:38:47.520 freedom
00:38:47.980 here in
00:38:48.960 Alberta
00:38:49.340 I'll be
00:38:50.400 quite frankly
00:38:51.500 shocked
00:38:52.240 to see them
00:38:52.960 come out
00:38:53.480 in my
00:38:54.020 defense
00:38:54.460 I think
00:38:54.920 a lot
00:38:55.180 of that
00:38:55.420 has to
00:38:55.760 do
00:38:55.860 with the
00:38:56.120 fact
00:38:56.360 that
00:38:56.600 much
00:38:57.440 of what
00:38:57.800 I do
00:38:58.220 involves
00:38:58.740 eating
00:38:59.100 their
00:38:59.360 lunch
00:38:59.680 every
00:38:59.980 day
00:39:00.320 I
00:39:00.700 don't
00:39:00.980 expect
00:39:01.400 to see
00:39:02.480 a lot
00:39:02.800 of
00:39:02.960 support
00:39:03.440 from
00:39:04.240 the
00:39:04.520 mean
00:39:04.900 girl
00:39:05.180 media
00:39:05.740 party
00:39:06.260 clique
00:39:06.700 that
00:39:06.980 surrounds
00:39:07.700 Ottawa
00:39:08.440 and exists
00:39:09.000 in the
00:39:09.240 Ottawa
00:39:09.500 bubble
00:39:09.840 but I
00:39:10.480 do
00:39:10.720 think
00:39:11.300 we
00:39:12.220 will
00:39:12.500 see
00:39:12.940 some
00:39:13.400 people
00:39:14.060 in the
00:39:14.380 mainstream
00:39:14.720 media
00:39:15.140 come out
00:39:15.620 in our
00:39:15.900 defense
00:39:16.260 we saw
00:39:16.900 it at
00:39:17.140 the press
00:39:17.460 freedom
00:39:17.860 conference
00:39:18.520 I'm
00:39:18.740 still
00:39:18.960 shocked
00:39:19.280 and mind
00:39:19.720 blown
00:39:20.020 that
00:39:21.140 you know
00:39:21.580 some
00:39:21.880 journalists
00:39:22.340 some
00:39:22.780 of which
00:39:23.180 were based
00:39:23.620 in Canada
00:39:24.120 and some
00:39:24.940 were based
00:39:25.440 in Europe
00:39:25.880 who refused
00:39:26.740 to attend
00:39:27.320 a press
00:39:28.040 conference
00:39:28.420 with
00:39:28.680 Chrystia Freeland
00:39:29.300 if we
00:39:30.080 were excluded
00:39:30.880 so I
00:39:31.580 do
00:39:31.920 think
00:39:32.240 there
00:39:32.400 are
00:39:32.520 still
00:39:32.760 some
00:39:33.040 journalists
00:39:33.380 who
00:39:33.620 take
00:39:33.840 their
00:39:34.060 craft
00:39:34.560 seriously
00:39:35.640 and who
00:39:36.440 realize
00:39:37.440 that
00:39:37.760 they
00:39:38.100 can
00:39:38.240 only
00:39:38.460 do
00:39:38.680 the
00:39:38.880 jobs
00:39:39.180 they
00:39:39.400 do
00:39:39.760 because
00:39:40.340 of
00:39:40.580 press
00:39:40.860 freedom
00:39:41.160 and
00:39:41.540 because
00:39:42.800 of the
00:39:43.080 battles
00:39:43.440 that
00:39:43.800 people
00:39:44.340 like
00:39:44.600 you
00:39:44.780 and I
00:39:45.120 are
00:39:45.300 fighting
00:39:45.580 every
00:39:45.860 day
00:39:46.060 to
00:39:46.200 maintain
00:39:46.500 it
00:39:46.760 you
00:39:47.180 know
00:39:47.280 I
00:39:47.380 appreciate
00:39:47.760 your
00:39:47.960 positive
00:39:48.360 attitude
00:39:48.740 and
00:39:49.060 you
00:39:49.220 are
00:39:49.400 correct
00:39:49.800 to
00:39:50.160 remind
00:39:50.480 me
00:39:50.720 that
00:39:51.200 it
00:39:51.300 was
00:39:51.420 just
00:39:51.620 two
00:39:51.820 weeks
00:39:52.060 ago
00:39:52.320 that
00:39:52.500 we
00:39:52.620 actually
00:39:52.960 saw
00:39:53.360 a
00:39:53.920 startling
00:39:54.280 case
00:39:54.640 of
00:39:54.800 solidarity
00:39:55.240 from
00:39:55.660 if
00:39:56.300 I
00:39:56.440 recall
00:39:56.700 correctly
00:39:57.080 CTV
00:39:57.600 CBC
00:39:58.280 Global
00:39:59.000 Globe and
00:39:59.740 Mail
00:39:59.920 and even
00:40:00.360 Al Jazeera
00:40:00.980 if you
00:40:01.260 can believe
00:40:01.680 it
00:40:01.800 I mean
00:40:02.800 who knew
00:40:03.740 I mean
00:40:04.580 pigs are
00:40:05.320 flying
00:40:05.660 you know
00:40:06.940 hell freezes
00:40:07.480 over
00:40:07.800 whatever
00:40:08.240 your
00:40:08.800 analogy
00:40:09.160 is
00:40:09.480 it
00:40:09.680 actually
00:40:09.940 happens
00:40:10.240 so
00:40:10.480 I
00:40:10.920 should
00:40:11.120 not
00:40:11.300 be
00:40:11.460 so
00:40:11.680 pessimistic
00:40:12.200 I guess
00:40:12.500 I've
00:40:12.720 learned
00:40:12.940 to be
00:40:13.180 pessimistic
00:40:13.580 over
00:40:13.940 time
00:40:14.220 you know
00:40:14.760 there's
00:40:14.960 also
00:40:15.180 a
00:40:15.420 senator
00:40:15.720 from
00:40:16.180 your
00:40:16.380 city
00:40:16.740 named
00:40:17.460 Paula
00:40:17.820 Simons
00:40:18.320 who
00:40:18.480 used
00:40:18.660 to be
00:40:18.920 a
00:40:19.200 columnist
00:40:19.960 for
00:40:20.540 the
00:40:20.680 Edmonton
00:40:20.960 Journal
00:40:21.200 now
00:40:21.420 she
00:40:21.580 sure
00:40:21.760 talked
00:40:22.100 a
00:40:22.240 good
00:40:22.380 game
00:40:22.740 about
00:40:23.180 being
00:40:23.400 for
00:40:23.580 free
00:40:23.800 speech
00:40:24.100 as
00:40:24.460 a
00:40:24.620 columnist
00:40:25.120 and
00:40:25.540 the
00:40:25.640 Edmonton
00:40:25.960 Journal
00:40:26.160 did
00:40:26.400 run
00:40:26.600 up
00:40:26.760 win
00:40:27.320 a
00:40:27.480 Pulitzer
00:40:27.740 Prize
00:40:28.060 in
00:40:28.200 1938
00:40:28.760 for
00:40:29.360 free
00:40:29.580 speech
00:40:29.880 I
00:40:30.600 wonder
00:40:31.160 if
00:40:31.540 Paula
00:40:31.880 Simons
00:40:32.380 who's
00:40:32.940 been
00:40:33.100 bought
00:40:33.380 off
00:40:33.600 by
00:40:33.780 Justin
00:40:34.120 Trudeau
00:40:34.440 with
00:40:34.600 a
00:40:34.740 senate
00:40:34.920 seat
00:40:35.160 for
00:40:35.320 life
00:40:35.540 I
00:40:36.020 wonder
00:40:36.440 if
00:40:36.720 she
00:40:36.880 will
00:40:37.040 stand
00:40:37.360 up
00:40:37.500 for
00:40:37.620 you
00:40:37.720 I
00:40:37.920 have
00:40:38.080 privately
00:40:38.880 requested
00:40:39.520 her
00:40:40.060 help
00:40:40.340 in the
00:40:40.580 past
00:40:40.940 for
00:40:41.180 you
00:40:41.360 and
00:40:41.700 she
00:40:41.900 has
00:40:42.120 not
00:40:42.700 it
00:40:43.240 will
00:40:43.300 be
00:40:43.460 interesting
00:40:44.000 to me
00:40:44.500 if
00:40:45.000 she
00:40:45.160 helps
00:40:45.400 you
00:40:45.500 out
00:40:45.600 here
00:40:45.720 but
00:40:45.840 you
00:40:45.960 know
00:40:46.100 what
00:40:46.340 if
00:40:49.200 we
00:40:49.340 were
00:40:49.480 to
00:40:49.640 live
00:40:49.920 by
00:40:50.280 the
00:40:50.460 help
00:40:50.740 of
00:40:51.340 our
00:40:51.680 competitors
00:40:52.220 we
00:40:52.520 would
00:40:52.680 have
00:40:52.820 long
00:40:53.140 ago
00:40:53.360 been
00:40:53.600 dead
00:40:53.900 Sheila
00:40:54.200 and
00:40:54.920 in
00:40:55.060 this
00:40:55.280 case
00:40:55.620 we
00:40:56.080 will
00:40:56.860 win
00:40:57.500 the
00:40:58.140 same
00:40:58.460 way
00:40:58.760 we've
00:40:59.100 won
00:40:59.380 before
00:40:59.960 and
00:41:00.720 that
00:41:00.940 is
00:41:01.160 by
00:41:01.360 asking
00:41:01.800 our
00:41:02.040 viewers
00:41:02.420 who
00:41:03.020 value
00:41:03.380 our
00:41:03.600 work
00:41:03.880 and
00:41:04.200 value
00:41:04.580 their
00:41:04.900 freedom
00:41:05.280 to
00:41:06.080 chip
00:41:06.340 in
00:41:06.500 you
00:41:06.620 mentioned
00:41:06.980 we're
00:41:07.180 at
00:41:11.360 some
00:41:11.760 people
00:41:13.140 might
00:41:13.360 say
00:41:13.540 why
00:41:13.820 can't
00:41:14.080 you
00:41:14.200 find
00:41:14.480 a
00:41:14.620 pro
00:41:14.800 bono
00:41:15.240 lawyer
00:41:15.640 I'm
00:41:16.260 sorry
00:41:16.480 we need
00:41:16.840 the best
00:41:17.220 media
00:41:17.580 lawyer
00:41:17.880 in
00:41:18.040 Alberta
00:41:18.420 his
00:41:18.900 name
00:41:19.080 is
00:41:19.220 Fred
00:41:19.420 Kozak
00:41:19.860 he's
00:41:20.080 an
00:41:20.240 expert
00:41:20.580 in
00:41:20.800 this
00:41:20.980 he
00:41:21.580 solved
00:41:22.140 the
00:41:22.300 problem
00:41:22.540 for
00:41:22.780 us
00:41:22.920 when
00:41:23.040 they
00:41:23.160 banned
00:41:23.400 Sheila
00:41:23.660 from
00:41:23.880 the
00:41:24.020 legislature
00:41:24.460 he
00:41:25.000 is
00:41:25.160 the
00:41:25.320 only
00:41:25.680 lawyer
00:41:26.080 we
00:41:26.740 can
00:41:27.080 responsibly
00:41:27.920 use
00:41:28.260 he's
00:41:28.740 the
00:41:28.860 best
00:41:29.100 he
00:41:29.320 will
00:41:29.720 win
00:41:30.080 but
00:41:31.240 I'm
00:41:31.460 afraid
00:41:31.740 this
00:41:32.020 will
00:41:32.180 cost
00:41:32.520 us
00:41:32.740 many
00:41:33.100 tens
00:41:33.500 of
00:41:33.700 thousands
00:41:34.020 of
00:41:34.300 more
00:41:34.920 before
00:41:35.540 we
00:41:35.740 get
00:41:35.900 there
00:41:36.080 and
00:41:36.220 so
00:41:36.460 once
00:41:36.740 again
00:41:36.960 I
00:41:37.100 must
00:41:37.380 ask
00:41:37.960 our
00:41:38.140 viewers
00:41:38.440 if
00:41:38.980 they
00:41:39.140 are
00:41:39.300 as
00:41:39.460 appalled
00:41:40.100 by
00:41:40.260 this
00:41:40.480 as
00:41:40.600 you
00:41:40.700 and
00:41:40.820 I
00:41:40.960 are
00:41:41.140 would
00:41:41.760 they
00:41:41.920 please
00:41:42.180 go
00:41:42.340 to
00:41:42.520 save
00:41:42.800 Sheila
00:41:43.140 dot
00:41:43.480 com
00:41:43.820 and
00:41:45.000 when
00:41:45.520 I
00:41:45.700 say
00:41:45.920 I'm
00:41:46.120 going
00:41:46.240 to
00:41:46.340 indemnify
00:41:46.860 Sheila
00:41:47.160 that's
00:41:47.420 really
00:41:47.600 what
00:41:47.800 I
00:41:47.920 mean
00:41:48.100 because
00:41:48.520 I
00:41:48.680 don't
00:41:48.840 have
00:41:49.020 $91,000
00:41:49.900 in
00:41:50.240 my
00:41:50.360 pocket
00:41:50.700 or
00:41:51.320 $48,000
00:41:52.280 I've
00:41:53.820 got to
00:41:54.080 ask
00:41:54.280 for
00:41:54.440 our
00:41:54.600 viewers
00:41:54.840 so
00:41:55.080 please
00:41:55.480 help
00:41:56.340 me
00:41:56.520 help
00:41:56.800 Sheila
00:41:57.080 and
00:41:57.400 we're
00:41:57.560 going
00:41:57.640 to
00:41:57.720 take
00:41:57.920 care
00:41:58.140 of
00:41:58.260 her
00:41:58.480 and
00:41:59.400 we're
00:41:59.540 going
00:41:59.640 to
00:41:59.760 take
00:41:59.980 care
00:42:00.180 of
00:42:00.300 the
00:42:00.400 rebel
00:42:00.640 and
00:42:01.160 we're
00:42:01.280 going
00:42:01.380 to
00:42:01.460 take
00:42:01.660 care
00:42:01.820 of
00:42:01.920 media
00:42:02.140 freedom
00:42:02.520 in
00:42:02.700 Alberta
00:42:03.000 even
00:42:03.240 if
00:42:03.380 no
00:42:03.520 one
00:42:03.640 else
00:42:03.820 will
00:42:04.060 last
00:42:04.740 word
00:42:04.920 to
00:42:05.040 you
00:42:05.220 Sheila
00:42:05.460 well
00:42:07.240 I
00:42:07.800 think
00:42:08.100 I
00:42:09.040 predict
00:42:09.480 that
00:42:10.220 the
00:42:10.980 investigators
00:42:12.100 are
00:42:12.420 going
00:42:12.640 to
00:42:12.780 move
00:42:13.080 on
00:42:13.320 us
00:42:13.720 pretty
00:42:14.040 quickly
00:42:14.400 here
00:42:14.740 they
00:42:16.240 were
00:42:16.560 a
00:42:17.420 little
00:42:17.580 bit
00:42:17.800 more
00:42:18.240 not
00:42:19.860 pleasant
00:42:20.220 that's
00:42:20.480 not
00:42:20.580 the
00:42:20.700 right
00:42:20.880 word
00:42:21.160 and
00:42:21.700 they
00:42:21.840 have
00:42:22.040 been
00:42:22.200 running
00:42:22.440 out
00:42:22.600 of
00:42:22.720 patience
00:42:23.140 with
00:42:23.400 me
00:42:23.660 but
00:42:24.240 they
00:42:24.680 have
00:42:24.820 been
00:42:25.000 more
00:42:25.460 tolerant
00:42:26.140 of
00:42:26.520 working
00:42:26.960 with
00:42:27.860 us
00:42:28.200 as
00:42:28.800 long
00:42:28.940 as
00:42:29.060 we
00:42:29.220 were
00:42:29.480 keeping
00:42:29.840 the
00:42:30.120 secret
00:42:30.440 of
00:42:31.040 what
00:42:31.200 they
00:42:31.320 were
00:42:31.440 trying
00:42:31.700 to
00:42:31.840 do
00:42:31.980 to
00:42:32.120 us
00:42:32.320 now
00:42:32.500 that
00:42:32.660 we've
00:42:32.900 gone
00:42:33.120 public
00:42:33.520 I
00:42:33.700 think
00:42:33.920 things
00:42:34.240 are
00:42:34.380 going
00:42:34.540 to
00:42:34.680 start
00:42:34.880 happening
00:42:35.340 pretty
00:42:35.980 fast
00:42:36.420 and
00:42:36.540 I
00:42:36.640 think
00:42:36.780 it's
00:42:37.000 really
00:42:37.420 important
00:42:37.880 that
00:42:38.220 people
00:42:38.680 frankly
00:42:40.500 help
00:42:40.880 us
00:42:41.140 as
00:42:41.320 quickly
00:42:41.560 as
00:42:41.780 they
00:42:41.900 can
00:42:42.160 yeah
00:42:42.480 well
00:42:43.000 let me
00:42:43.160 just
00:42:43.320 throw
00:42:43.460 one
00:42:51.700 to
00:42:52.020 resolve
00:42:52.520 it
00:42:52.680 obviously
00:42:53.000 we
00:42:53.240 would
00:42:53.400 never
00:42:53.680 sell
00:42:54.160 out
00:42:54.300 our
00:42:54.460 freedom
00:42:54.740 but
00:42:55.460 look
00:42:55.680 we're
00:42:55.940 in
00:42:56.240 this
00:42:56.380 business
00:42:56.660 to
00:42:56.800 be
00:42:56.920 journalists
00:42:57.280 not
00:42:57.600 to
00:42:57.860 not
00:42:58.160 to
00:42:58.340 litigate
00:42:58.820 so
00:42:59.460 let's
00:42:59.840 see if
00:43:00.400 we can
00:43:00.620 handle
00:43:01.060 this
00:43:01.300 let's
00:43:01.540 see if
00:43:01.780 we
00:43:01.900 can
00:43:02.060 just
00:43:02.320 like
00:43:02.860 we
00:43:02.960 don't
00:43:03.180 need
00:43:03.380 another
00:43:03.840 battle
00:43:05.280 we
00:43:06.000 did
00:43:06.200 not
00:43:06.420 rush
00:43:06.800 to
00:43:07.000 this
00:43:07.200 battle
00:43:07.540 you
00:43:07.960 emailed
00:43:08.640 him
00:43:08.940 you
00:43:09.100 phoned
00:43:09.480 him
00:43:09.700 he
00:43:09.900 emailed
00:43:10.260 you
00:43:10.420 he
00:43:10.560 phoned
00:43:10.860 you
00:43:11.100 letters
00:43:11.740 back
00:43:12.080 and
00:43:12.260 forth
00:43:12.500 and
00:43:13.540 instead
00:43:14.060 of
00:43:14.240 resolving
00:43:14.700 it
00:43:14.940 it
00:43:15.100 just
00:43:15.280 made
00:43:15.480 them
00:43:15.680 angrier
00:43:16.380 and
00:43:17.220 as
00:43:17.400 we've
00:43:17.600 just
00:43:17.760 played
00:43:18.000 for
00:43:18.200 everybody
00:43:18.640 they
00:43:19.260 started
00:43:19.560 to
00:43:19.680 make
00:43:19.800 the
00:43:19.940 threats
00:43:20.220 and
00:43:20.480 those
00:43:20.720 threats
00:43:21.080 seem
00:43:21.400 so
00:43:21.640 qualitatively
00:43:22.440 different
00:43:22.720 now
00:43:23.100 they're
00:43:24.240 threatening
00:43:24.740 consequences
00:43:25.500 they're
00:43:25.800 threatening
00:43:26.060 severe
00:43:26.540 punishments
00:43:27.240 they're
00:43:27.780 threatening
00:43:28.080 fines
00:43:28.580 they're
00:43:28.820 threatening
00:43:29.100 subpoenas
00:43:29.580 and summonses
00:43:30.420 and we
00:43:31.340 just
00:43:31.600 had to
00:43:31.920 pull
00:43:32.080 the
00:43:32.240 trigger
00:43:32.460 on this
00:43:32.780 now
00:43:32.940 we
00:43:33.100 had
00:43:33.280 to
00:43:33.420 go
00:43:33.560 public
00:43:33.940 and
00:43:34.160 blow
00:43:34.340 the
00:43:34.520 whistle
00:43:34.820 on
00:43:35.540 this
00:43:35.740 now
00:43:36.080 because
00:43:36.880 they're
00:43:37.880 coming
00:43:38.120 to
00:43:38.280 get
00:43:38.440 us
00:43:38.640 and
00:43:38.840 our
00:43:38.980 attempt
00:43:39.300 to
00:43:39.480 try
00:43:39.720 and
00:43:39.920 diplomatically
00:43:40.560 make
00:43:40.800 the
00:43:40.940 problem
00:43:41.160 go
00:43:41.320 away
00:43:41.560 has
00:43:42.060 failed
00:43:42.480 these
00:43:44.100 guys
00:43:44.320 are
00:43:44.500 killers
00:43:44.840 and I
00:43:45.160 mean
00:43:45.280 that
00:43:45.440 literally
00:43:45.780 Ken
00:43:46.080 Brander
00:43:46.420 is
00:43:46.580 if
00:43:47.740 someone's
00:43:48.120 willing
00:43:48.320 to
00:43:48.600 brazenly
00:43:49.500 continue
00:43:50.960 policing
00:43:51.600 after
00:43:52.320 killing
00:43:52.660 a
00:43:52.840 child
00:43:53.160 he
00:43:53.700 has
00:43:53.920 no
00:43:54.100 compunction
00:43:54.660 about
00:43:55.340 going
00:43:55.660 after
00:43:55.960 journalists
00:43:56.440 he's
00:43:57.200 a
00:43:57.300 disgusting
00:43:57.760 person
00:43:58.380 I'm
00:43:58.600 sorry
00:43:58.860 I
00:43:59.000 don't
00:43:59.160 say
00:43:59.360 that
00:43:59.640 about
00:44:00.400 people
00:44:00.720 in
00:44:00.960 general
00:44:01.300 but
00:44:01.800 what
00:44:02.040 he
00:44:02.300 did
00:44:02.660 for
00:44:02.880 him
00:44:03.120 to
00:44:03.320 still
00:44:03.580 show
00:44:03.880 his
00:44:04.040 face
00:44:04.380 and
00:44:04.820 to
00:44:04.920 work
00:44:05.320 let
00:44:08.040 alone
00:44:08.240 the
00:44:08.400 family
00:44:08.840 and
00:44:09.700 we
00:44:10.000 stand
00:44:10.320 by
00:44:10.520 you
00:44:10.740 Sheila
00:44:10.960 and
00:44:11.120 let
00:44:11.260 me
00:44:11.340 just
00:44:11.540 end
00:44:11.760 it
00:44:11.880 on
00:44:12.000 that
00:44:12.220 note
00:44:12.500 and
00:44:13.020 let
00:44:13.120 me
00:44:13.200 encourage
00:44:13.500 everyone
00:44:13.800 to
00:44:13.960 go
00:44:14.060 to
00:44:14.220 save
00:44:14.400 Sheila.com
00:44:15.140 I
00:44:15.320 am
00:44:15.460 furious
00:44:16.140 that
00:44:16.680 we
00:44:16.780 have
00:44:16.920 to
00:44:17.020 do
00:44:17.180 this
00:44:17.380 again
00:44:17.720 but
00:44:18.140 that
00:44:18.340 is
00:44:18.500 what
00:44:18.700 we
00:44:18.880 do
00:44:19.240 Sheila
00:44:19.920 thanks
00:44:20.300 for
00:44:20.540 staying
00:44:20.940 so
00:44:21.140 strong
00:44:21.380 thanks
00:44:21.640 for
00:44:21.780 being
00:44:22.020 such
00:44:22.300 a
00:44:22.440 pillar
00:44:22.640 other
00:44:23.380 people
00:44:23.660 would
00:44:23.840 have
00:44:23.940 collapsed
00:44:24.320 you
00:44:24.500 did
00:44:24.680 not
00:44:24.980 well
00:44:26.420 like
00:44:27.200 you
00:44:27.320 said
00:44:27.480 off
00:44:27.620 the
00:44:27.720 top
00:44:28.000 I
00:44:28.200 have
00:44:28.380 the
00:44:28.720 support
00:44:29.180 of
00:44:29.340 the
00:44:29.460 entire
00:44:29.800 rebel
00:44:30.120 team
00:44:30.440 and
00:44:30.640 I
00:44:30.740 firmly
00:44:31.100 grounded
00:44:31.620 in
00:44:31.920 my
00:44:32.140 faith
00:44:32.520 and
00:44:32.720 my
00:44:32.900 family
00:44:33.340 and
00:44:33.760 I
00:44:33.860 have
00:44:34.020 all
00:44:34.180 the
00:44:34.340 support
00:44:34.620 of
00:44:34.760 the
00:44:34.880 viewers
00:44:35.140 at
00:44:35.300 home
00:44:35.460 who
00:44:35.660 are
00:44:35.760 cheering
00:44:36.020 for
00:44:36.220 us
00:44:36.360 to
00:44:36.500 continue
00:44:36.780 to
00:44:36.980 fight
00:44:37.140 every
00:44:37.360 single
00:44:37.660 day
00:44:37.900 you
00:44:38.740 know
00:44:38.880 what
00:44:39.060 I
00:44:39.220 hope
00:44:40.480 you
00:44:40.560 don't
00:44:40.700 mind
00:44:40.900 this
00:44:41.080 is
00:44:41.200 a
00:44:41.300 private
00:44:41.540 conversation
00:44:42.100 you
00:44:42.340 and
00:44:42.460 I
00:44:42.600 held
00:44:42.900 and
00:44:44.020 if
00:44:44.160 you
00:44:44.280 want
00:44:44.520 I'll
00:44:44.780 delete
00:44:45.020 this
00:44:45.240 from
00:44:45.400 the
00:44:45.520 interview
00:44:45.840 but
00:44:47.400 you
00:44:47.600 told
00:44:47.880 me
00:44:48.040 that
00:44:48.200 you
00:44:48.320 talk
00:44:48.600 to
00:44:48.740 your
00:44:48.880 family
00:44:49.260 about
00:44:49.580 the
00:44:49.780 possibility
00:44:50.460 of
00:44:51.780 jail
00:44:52.100 time
00:44:52.520 if
00:44:52.840 you
00:44:53.000 don't
00:44:53.300 pay
00:44:53.580 the
00:44:53.840 fines
00:44:54.240 and
00:44:54.520 if
00:44:54.680 you're
00:44:54.840 held
00:44:55.040 in
00:44:55.200 contempt
00:44:55.580 theoretically
00:44:56.360 you
00:44:56.700 could
00:44:56.880 be
00:44:57.040 sent
00:44:57.260 to
00:44:57.440 jail
00:44:57.720 over
00:44:58.000 this
00:44:58.340 and
00:44:59.140 I
00:44:59.300 said
00:44:59.540 to
00:44:59.700 you
00:44:59.860 Sheila
00:45:00.060 there's
00:45:00.300 no way
00:45:00.620 I'm
00:45:00.800 going
00:45:00.900 to
00:45:01.020 tell
00:45:01.180 a
00:45:01.340 mom
00:45:01.600 of
00:45:02.320 three
00:45:02.700 to
00:45:03.140 go
00:45:03.280 to
00:45:03.440 jail
00:45:03.720 and
00:45:03.980 you
00:45:04.160 told
00:45:04.400 me
00:45:04.560 that
00:45:04.720 you
00:45:04.840 spoke
00:45:05.140 with
00:45:05.300 your
00:45:05.420 family
00:45:05.820 and
00:45:06.940 they
00:45:07.180 actually
00:45:07.620 are
00:45:07.860 so
00:45:08.140 supportive
00:45:08.640 of
00:45:08.840 you
00:45:08.980 that
00:45:09.160 they
00:45:09.440 would
00:45:09.880 stand
00:45:10.660 by
00:45:11.000 you
00:45:11.260 if
00:45:11.540 you
00:45:11.720 made
00:45:12.060 that
00:45:12.480 choice
00:45:12.820 and
00:45:12.980 I
00:45:13.080 hope
00:45:13.200 I'm
00:45:13.320 not
00:45:13.480 embarrassing
00:45:13.940 you
00:45:14.300 or
00:45:15.180 telling
00:45:15.700 tales
00:45:16.020 out
00:45:16.180 of
00:45:16.280 school
00:45:16.500 but
00:45:16.660 when
00:45:16.840 you
00:45:17.000 said
00:45:17.220 that
00:45:17.420 I
00:45:17.560 thought
00:45:17.820 my
00:45:18.100 God
00:45:18.420 if
00:45:18.940 you're
00:45:19.120 willing
00:45:19.280 to
00:45:19.440 go
00:45:19.560 to
00:45:19.740 jail
00:45:20.060 I
00:45:20.800 must
00:45:21.240 do
00:45:21.700 everything
00:45:22.220 in
00:45:22.660 my
00:45:22.840 power
00:45:23.220 to
00:45:23.760 support
00:45:24.120 you
00:45:24.320 and
00:45:24.460 protect
00:45:24.800 you
00:45:25.040 and
00:45:25.280 all
00:45:26.100 of
00:45:26.240 us
00:45:26.480 well
00:45:28.380 it
00:45:28.940 is
00:45:29.140 true
00:45:29.480 you
00:45:30.500 know
00:45:30.660 we
00:45:31.040 joke
00:45:31.380 around
00:45:31.620 the
00:45:31.760 house
00:45:31.940 here
00:45:32.080 the
00:45:32.480 kids
00:45:32.680 could
00:45:32.860 use
00:45:33.020 the
00:45:33.160 break
00:45:33.360 from
00:45:33.580 me
00:45:33.780 anyway
00:45:34.120 but
00:45:34.560 I
00:45:35.140 think
00:45:35.360 it's
00:45:35.560 so
00:45:35.760 important
00:45:36.320 that
00:45:37.100 at
00:45:38.120 the
00:45:38.240 end
00:45:38.320 of
00:45:38.420 the
00:45:38.480 day
00:45:38.600 I'm
00:45:38.740 not
00:45:38.860 just
00:45:39.020 fighting
00:45:39.260 for
00:45:39.600 my
00:45:39.920 free
00:45:40.200 speech
00:45:40.560 but
00:45:40.880 theirs
00:45:41.500 also
00:45:42.020 well
00:45:43.180 thank
00:45:43.400 you
00:45:43.500 my
00:45:43.660 friends
00:45:44.040 I
00:45:45.400 will
00:45:45.560 do
00:45:45.720 everything
00:45:46.100 I
00:45:46.320 can
00:45:46.640 our
00:45:48.220 whole
00:45:48.460 team
00:45:48.740 is
00:45:48.920 united
00:45:49.200 behind
00:45:49.600 you
00:45:49.940 it's
00:45:51.200 so
00:45:51.400 important
00:45:51.740 that
00:45:51.940 your
00:45:52.080 family
00:45:52.520 is
00:45:52.920 united
00:45:53.220 behind
00:45:53.540 you
00:45:53.740 they're
00:45:53.980 great
00:45:54.420 they're
00:45:55.060 just
00:45:55.240 great
00:45:55.460 they share
00:45:55.920 you
00:45:56.060 with
00:45:56.240 us
00:45:56.580 every
00:45:57.360 day
00:45:57.660 and
00:45:59.200 on
00:45:59.540 behalf
00:45:59.840 of our
00:46:00.360 viewers
00:46:00.680 around
00:46:01.020 the
00:46:01.180 world
00:46:01.460 I
00:46:02.300 pledge
00:46:02.600 to
00:46:02.800 you
00:46:02.920 we
00:46:03.080 will
00:46:03.220 do
00:46:03.380 everything
00:46:04.040 everything
00:46:04.940 everything
00:46:06.120 everything
00:46:06.880 to
00:46:07.820 protect
00:46:08.240 you
00:46:08.560 and
00:46:09.320 I
00:46:09.460 would
00:46:09.600 call
00:46:09.920 on
00:46:10.160 our
00:46:10.340 viewers
00:46:10.700 to
00:46:11.260 help
00:46:11.620 me
00:46:11.940 keep
00:46:12.360 that
00:46:12.740 promise
00:46:13.240 at
00:46:14.340 savesheela.com
00:46:15.300 good luck
00:46:15.620 my friend
00:46:16.060 thank
00:46:17.240 you
00:46:17.420 all right
00:46:18.000 stay
00:46:18.540 with us
00:46:18.880 my final
00:46:19.300 thoughts
00:46:19.580 are next
00:46:30.680 welcome
00:46:32.320 back
00:46:32.540 I'm sorry
00:46:32.940 I'm so
00:46:33.320 angry
00:46:33.560 I'm angry
00:46:34.040 about what
00:46:34.420 they're doing
00:46:34.820 about
00:46:35.080 sheila
00:46:35.320 but when
00:46:35.600 I discovered
00:46:36.120 who they
00:46:36.920 hired
00:46:37.440 to go
00:46:38.320 after
00:46:38.560 sheila
00:46:38.940 my stomach
00:46:39.940 turned
00:46:40.260 maybe it's
00:46:40.660 because I
00:46:41.080 have young
00:46:41.480 children that
00:46:41.980 age
00:46:42.220 and I
00:46:42.680 could only
00:46:43.000 imagine
00:46:43.520 such a
00:46:44.300 person
00:46:44.540 holding
00:46:44.840 himself
00:46:45.180 as an
00:46:46.020 arbiter
00:46:46.420 of right
00:46:46.840 and wrong
00:46:47.240 who was
00:46:47.560 found
00:46:47.780 negligent
00:46:48.220 I'm sorry
00:46:48.620 I was so
00:46:49.080 angry
00:46:49.340 there
00:46:49.580 maybe
00:46:49.980 that's
00:46:50.220 irrelevant
00:46:50.580 maybe
00:46:51.100 all that
00:46:51.480 matters
00:46:51.880 is they're
00:46:52.320 coming to
00:46:52.640 extinguish
00:46:53.100 freedom
00:46:53.460 and I
00:46:54.080 shouldn't
00:46:54.560 care about
00:46:55.400 the fact
00:46:55.880 that this
00:46:56.620 dirty cop
00:46:57.260 killed a
00:46:57.720 kid
00:46:57.960 I don't
00:46:58.980 know
00:46:59.140 sorry
00:46:59.420 it's hard
00:46:59.720 for me
00:46:59.920 I'm a
00:47:00.080 dad
00:47:00.280 maybe
00:47:00.540 if you're
00:47:00.800 not a
00:47:01.040 dad
00:47:01.280 it doesn't
00:47:02.500 sting you
00:47:03.000 as much
00:47:03.460 but I
00:47:04.000 swear
00:47:04.500 on the
00:47:05.620 altar of
00:47:06.120 God
00:47:06.420 I swear
00:47:07.240 to you
00:47:07.800 as my
00:47:08.760 viewers
00:47:09.080 and I
00:47:09.460 swear
00:47:09.720 on my
00:47:10.040 conscience
00:47:10.440 and I
00:47:10.800 swear
00:47:10.960 to my
00:47:11.240 friend
00:47:11.680 Sheila
00:47:12.520 that I
00:47:13.020 will do
00:47:13.820 everything
00:47:14.600 I can
00:47:15.720 to stop
00:47:16.800 them from
00:47:17.280 coming for
00:47:17.840 her
00:47:18.020 I will
00:47:18.600 use every
00:47:19.260 penny
00:47:19.640 we have
00:47:20.220 I will
00:47:20.700 use every
00:47:21.180 penny
00:47:21.460 I have
00:47:22.140 I will
00:47:22.780 do
00:47:22.960 everything
00:47:23.520 I can
00:47:24.060 do
00:47:24.420 to fight
00:47:25.220 back
00:47:25.540 we shall
00:47:26.100 not let
00:47:26.520 this
00:47:27.260 do you
00:47:27.640 know
00:47:28.040 what
00:47:28.300 Alberta's
00:47:28.900 motto
00:47:29.180 is
00:47:29.540 it's
00:47:29.800 strong
00:47:30.200 and
00:47:30.900 free
00:47:31.800 it is
00:47:32.600 not
00:47:32.960 a
00:47:33.280 place
00:47:33.660 where
00:47:34.100 we
00:47:34.300 prosecute
00:47:35.120 or
00:47:35.600 investigate
00:47:36.380 journalists
00:47:37.400 for
00:47:37.740 criticizing
00:47:38.360 the
00:47:38.920 government
00:47:39.360 and I
00:47:40.120 am
00:47:40.320 deeply
00:47:40.840 proud
00:47:41.400 that
00:47:41.860 Sheila
00:47:42.200 told me
00:47:43.080 privately
00:47:43.840 and she
00:47:44.220 confirmed
00:47:45.180 later on
00:47:46.060 the phone
00:47:46.340 to me
00:47:46.580 that she's
00:47:47.220 okay
00:47:47.500 with me
00:47:48.020 saying it
00:47:48.360 to you
00:47:48.620 publicly
00:47:49.140 she said
00:47:51.260 to me
00:47:51.600 that she
00:47:52.240 would
00:47:52.780 go to
00:47:53.560 prison
00:47:54.200 before she
00:47:55.380 bent the
00:47:56.020 knee
00:47:56.280 to this
00:47:56.940 disgraced
00:47:57.580 crew
00:47:57.880 and I
00:47:58.280 I said
00:47:59.040 to her
00:47:59.360 I would
00:47:59.920 never ask
00:48:00.420 a mom
00:48:00.740 to go
00:48:01.060 to prison
00:48:01.460 your
00:48:02.080 kids
00:48:02.800 need you
00:48:03.360 but she
00:48:04.060 said she
00:48:04.560 met with
00:48:04.980 she talked
00:48:06.040 with her
00:48:06.400 family
00:48:06.780 and they
00:48:07.520 all supported
00:48:08.120 her
00:48:08.300 what an
00:48:08.760 amazing
00:48:09.360 woman
00:48:09.780 with an
00:48:10.500 amazing
00:48:10.900 family
00:48:11.400 and if
00:48:12.080 she is
00:48:12.580 willing to
00:48:13.140 go to
00:48:14.340 prison
00:48:14.920 for our
00:48:15.520 freedom
00:48:15.880 should we
00:48:16.800 all not
00:48:17.360 do
00:48:17.620 whatever
00:48:17.940 we can
00:48:18.600 for her
00:48:19.000 and I
00:48:19.660 will
00:48:19.960 but I
00:48:20.680 need your
00:48:21.260 help
00:48:21.640 I need
00:48:22.480 your help
00:48:22.940 we have
00:48:23.580 incurred
00:48:24.000 $48,000
00:48:24.980 finding this
00:48:25.740 privately
00:48:26.140 so far
00:48:26.720 it's not
00:48:27.500 private
00:48:27.820 anymore
00:48:28.120 they're
00:48:28.360 going to
00:48:28.560 come for
00:48:29.020 us
00:48:29.280 with
00:48:29.840 torches
00:48:30.280 now
00:48:30.600 please
00:48:31.780 help me
00:48:32.100 out
00:48:32.220 please
00:48:32.400 go to
00:48:32.880 SaveSheila.com
00:48:34.740 normally
00:48:35.480 this entire
00:48:36.580 show is
00:48:37.300 behind a
00:48:37.800 paywall
00:48:38.200 it's just
00:48:38.880 for our
00:48:39.240 subscribers
00:48:39.800 our premium
00:48:40.320 subscribers
00:48:40.780 thank you
00:48:41.520 for being
00:48:41.840 a premium
00:48:42.220 subscriber
00:48:42.760 and supporting
00:48:43.680 us with
00:48:44.020 $8 a month
00:48:44.660 but this
00:48:45.000 is so
00:48:45.300 important
00:48:45.700 I am
00:48:46.440 going to
00:48:46.740 release
00:48:47.120 this entire
00:48:47.660 video
00:48:48.080 onto YouTube
00:48:49.120 and I
00:48:49.420 would say
00:48:49.760 to those
00:48:50.180 who are
00:48:50.440 not our
00:48:51.020 premium
00:48:51.280 subscribers
00:48:51.860 I would
00:48:52.140 say
00:48:52.460 help me
00:48:54.040 help Sheila
00:48:55.340 go to
00:48:57.180 SaveSheila.com
00:48:58.180 we're not
00:48:59.200 done
00:48:59.460 we're not
00:49:00.340 done
00:49:00.600 we will
00:49:01.060 not be
00:49:01.400 done
00:49:01.660 until we're
00:49:02.400 free
00:49:02.660 thank you
00:49:04.200 on behalf
00:49:04.900 of all
00:49:05.240 us here
00:49:05.600 at Rebel
00:49:05.920 World
00:49:06.140 Headquarters
00:49:06.620 to you
00:49:06.940 at home
00:49:07.240 good night
00:49:09.220 and keep
00:49:09.820 fighting for
00:49:10.280 freedom
00:49:10.580 I hate
00:49:11.880 I tell
00:49:12.240 I mean
00:49:13.080 you
00:49:13.540 don't
00:49:13.940 anything
00:49:14.140 cliché
00:49:17.460 it's
00:49:18.140 if someone
00:49:18.940 doesn't
00:49:19.680 know
00:49:20.380 I'm
00:49:21.140 going to
00:49:22.140 well
00:49:23.120 I don't
00:49:23.440 I think
00:49:23.860 I don't
00:49:24.940 see you
00:49:25.340 but I will
00:49:25.980 see you
00:49:26.700 see you
00:49:28.360 in the
00:49:29.220 subscribe
00:49:29.360 the
00:49:29.540 bell
00:49:30.140 one
00:49:30.400 two
00:49:32.380 thanks
00:49:32.920 and
00:49:33.420 the
00:49:33.500 thanks
00:49:34.040 and
00:49:34.240 ouble
00:49:34.700 to you
00:49:36.600 see you
00:49:36.940 see you
00:49:38.140 here
00:49:38.380 you
00:49:39.400 Bodו