Greta Thunberg is coming to Canada during the final days of the election campaign — Will anyone stand up to her？
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Greta Thunberg is a 16-year-old girl from Sweden who has become a global sensation amongst the fancy people because of her gripping emotional rants against global warming. She is coming to Alberta, Canada on October 16th.
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And she's coming to Alberta, which is pretty exciting.
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Is that something that Jason Kenney's Oil Sands War Room should take on?
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Tonight, a foreign anti-oil activist named Greta Thunberg is coming to Canada
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during the final days of the election campaign.
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It's October 16th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
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She's the 16-year-old girl from Sweden who has become a global sensation amongst the fancy
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people because of her gripping emotional rants against global warming.
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I've come to the conclusion personally that Greta is not acting like, say, David Suzuki
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I have come to the conclusion that she is genuinely terrified, and it's either the cause or the
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effect of her mental illness, a mental illness that she herself describes here.
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So when I was 11, I became ill, I fell into depression, I stopped talking, and I stopped
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In two months, I lost about 10 kilos of weight.
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Later on, I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, OCD, and selective mutism.
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So, for example, when Greta was at the United Nations, and she practically burst into tears,
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It was her true psychological condition, her depression, her selective mutism, her OCD,
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She's been whipped up by her handlers, and there she is, the young girl who was suicidal.
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I should be back in school, on the other side of the ocean.
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You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words, and yet I'm one of the lucky
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We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk about is money and fairy
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I would actually agree with some of the words she said.
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How dare you put her on a tour like a circus freak show?
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How dare you do this to her when she's supposed to be in school?
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How dare you drag her around the world on the other side of the ocean?
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It doesn't quite make sense for her to blame others, though, when she claims that the whole
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school strike thing she started was her idea, that there's no point in even going to school
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And it's a bit odd complaining about where she is, given that she sailed across the ocean
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on a state-of-the-art carbon fiber yacht and tweeted the whole journey.
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But I don't think she's making those life decisions.
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They invariably are abused, either psychologically or physically or both.
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And even if they're not molested, their childhood is stolen, and certainly their money is, by handlers
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I blame radical left-wing groups like Antifa, the left-wing street gangs.
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But of course, I mainly blame her parents, who are showboats and celebrities in their own
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right, and at the very least are getting some PR out of their daughter, and we don't know
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And it's not a lot of assistanters and so on, people may think.
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And I don't have a russ-kaviar here, not as people may think.
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So the other day, Greta tweeted that she's coming to Alberta, except that, of course,
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she doesn't write her own tweets, her PR management team does.
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Heading north again, now follows a few days of well-needed rest while enjoying the spectacular
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She's so produced, but at the same time so authentic.
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I showed you before what Greta is like when she's not scripted.
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She freezes up, like you'd expect a stressed Asperger's OCD selective mutist teenager to
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What kind of message would you send by doing this to world leaders and also kind of ask
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you, do you think it's about time that President Trump would respond to what you have said today?
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Um, I think, I'm sorry, what was the first question?
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What's the message you would like to send to a leader by doing what you are doing?
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I think what we want to send is, the message we want to send is to say that we have had
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And, uh, anyone else want to answer that question?
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That's sort of the most basic question imaginable.
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She just, without a script, doesn't know what to say.
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Look, her PR value isn't her scientific knowledge or her life experience.
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She's terrified to the point of suicidal thoughts.
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Listen to this young girl in Australia mimicking Greta's end-of-the-world insanity.
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I just don't know if they're going to do anything.
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And I just, I'm so concerned with the fact that if they're not going to change anything,
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What's going to happen to our, what's going to happen to the whole world if no one does
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Whoever did that to that girl is a child abuser.
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Well, of course, because we have an election on Monday and the parties on the left want
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to scare people about global warming and they hope to blunt the chances of the conservatives.
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Of course, Andrew Scheer's very first policy sellout as leader was on global warming.
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He immediately whipped all his MPs, including those from Alberta, to vote in favor of the
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UN's global warming scheme, throwing away two decades of principled opposition.
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He literally caved in live on TV to some fairly gentle questions from the media party.
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I'm just asking because, you know, this is the big issue because it ties in with pipelines,
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The former Harper regulations would not come close to meeting the targets that the Harper
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Will you unveil a plan that will actually meet the Paris targets?
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Of course, I will unveil a plan that reaches the targets that we have already voted in
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We believe that Canada has to be part of the solution.
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We want to have, we will, we will have a meaningful plan to reduce emissions.
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And so, yeah, Greta's coming to Alberta to promote the global warming threat that isn't actually
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contrary to Andrew Scheer's own platform, who believes in the global warming threat himself.
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But no one actually takes Andrew Scheer seriously.
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He undermined his moral authority, demoralized his base by saying the lines of the left and
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I can assure you, Greta is not coming here to praise Andrew Scheer, but rather to bury
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And even Alberta's mayors, who amongst them have 100,000 unemployed men and women in their
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cities, in the oil patch, they were actually welcoming this PR wrecking ball.
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I'd love to invite you to Edmonton City Hall to discuss the Edmonton Declaration and some
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of the environmentally friendly projects we're working on, changeforclimate.ca.
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Regardless of where you visit, I wish you nothing but the best.
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If you click on that link, that changeforclimate.ca, you see this crazy apocalyptic website.
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It's the city of Edmonton's own war against its own citizens.
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The city already declared a climate emergency just a couple months ago.
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Hey, do you think that's going to impress Greta or her handlers?
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Do you think it'll persuade them to support the oil sands?
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Do you think they're open-minded, coming to do a front-finding trip to Alberta, and they
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Mayor Nenshi says Greta Thunberg is very welcome.
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While we don't know her itinerary or who is organizing her trip here, she is very welcome.
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We would love to talk about Calgary's climate program and how seriously we're taking climate
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We're always interested in having a dialogue on the intersection of energy and environment,
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as well as highlighting the climate achievements of the Canadian energy sector.
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Do you think Greta, a 16-year-old high school dropout, is interested in having a dialogue
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about the intersection of energy and the environment?
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Look, we know that Nenshi and Iverson are little Trudeaus when it comes to photo ops and
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But guys, she's coming to bury you, not to praise you.
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Do you really think that telling her about your climate emergency declaration is going to
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The first is, it's the first real test of Jason Kenney's so-called oil sands war room.
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That's a $30 million a year budget, an organization designed to defend the reputation of the oil
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sands against exactly this thing, foreign meddlers coming to besmirch it.
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Well, we don't know yet, but this is their first test, isn't it?
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Today, by coincidence, is exactly the six-month anniversary of the Alberta election that installed
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They have had plenty of time to think and plan, so what will they do about Greta?
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Will they issue some boring press release, put out some vanilla TV ads that will do nothing
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other than enrich some Toronto ad agencies and some lobbyists?
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The second point I'd like to make touches on the first.
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Why is a foreign-funded lobbyist, which is exactly what Greta Thunberg is, permitted to
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come to Canada to campaign on hot election issues in the final days of the election, a foreign
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It's true that Thunberg was already in Canada once and met with Justin Trudeau and was
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But she's coming back again in the final days of the campaign with an attack focus on
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Does this meet the definition of an election campaign expense?
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Well, let me read to you a single sentence from the Elections Canada webpage.
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Please note that foreign third parties can't spend money or use their resources to influence
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Greta Thunberg is a big-money foreign campaign absolutely designed to influence our election.
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Not only ought that to be stopped, but that ought to be one of the angles of attack of
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But, and this is so obvious it almost doesn't need to be said, taking on Greta Thunberg is
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She's an abused child, but you can't say that out loud.
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She's cannon fodder for the left, but she's a human shield.
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She's woefully uninformed, but you can't say that.
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She's mentally ill, and you can say, well, you can't say that, but she can, and she has.
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But you need to say those things to rebut her lies, and more importantly, the lies of
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the foreign interests that fund her and direct her.
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I don't think most politicians have that courage.
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Certainly none in Andrew Scheer's party are allowed to.
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I don't think many in Jason Kenney's provincial party are allowed to either.
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But that's why this arm's-length $30 million war room is there to do and say the things
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that more polite and more liberal people can't.
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Or is that $30 million just patronage and pork, conservative style?
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Well, I've enjoyed making visits to Alberta quite a lot over the last campaign.
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Calgary, Edmonton, Innisfail, Red Deer, other places.
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And I'm always talking about Justin Trudeau and the Libranos, and people ask me, should
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But every stop I make, one or more people come up to me and say, I've had it with the
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I'm full-blown separatist because we are going to get it worse than ever.
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It's with a sense of depression and resignation that the system just screws the West.
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And so I come to Lauren Gunter's column in today's Edmonton Sun.
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It looks like Screw the West is back in full swing.
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And joining us now via Skype from Edmonton is Lauren Gunter, senior columnist with the
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And I hear it unprompted everywhere I go in Alberta.
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You hear people with a deep sense of resignation about it.
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But there's more of a sigh like, OK, well, we should have seen this coming.
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You're also hearing it now in 2019 from people you wouldn't have heard it from in the past.
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You know, there's an awful lot of people I'm hearing from who are very powerful people,
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very successful professionals who really can't be bothered with the hustle and bustle or the
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hurly-burly, as it is, of war and battling and things.
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I mean, in most revolutions and separation, whether it's in Alberta or Quebec or somewhere
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Most revolutions don't come from people in the elite.
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They come from people in the middle class and people who are otherwise very comfortable.
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All the banks, all the, like you say, the establishment, they're for the status quo because the status
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I mean, Wall Street, very much a status quo kind of place.
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They even made their accommodations with Obama and Hillary.
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But I know, in fact, there's some very wealthy, very powerful Alberta players.
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I don't think he's quite a billionaire, but he's a centimillionaire.
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He's had it with the fact that not, not just that Alberta and the West in general is being
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undone, but it's, that it's being done so perniciously, whimsically, gleefully.
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Let me, let me give you one anecdote and I'll throw it right back to you.
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You know, when Stephen Harper was prime minister, he had a habit.
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Whenever he would give a speech or answer a question, he would do it first in French,
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And Albertans would say, what are you doing, buddy?
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He was trying to make an effort, trying to show that even though he was an Anglo from
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Alberta, he still wanted Quebec to be part of his Canada, even if the feeling wasn't
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He's not making efforts, even though like he could say, all right, Albertans hate me,
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but I'm still going to do things to show them I don't hate them back.
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I'm certain that he's going to meet with Greta Thunberg one more time, that anti-oil
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He's demonizing the West in a way that Harper would never dream of doing to Quebec.
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You know, I think, I think just quickly on the Thunberg thing, Thunberg.
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Um, I think he'd like to meet with her, but I don't think he's going to, because she doesn't
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think there's any politician in the world now who's doing enough.
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And she'll scold him, which she sort of did in New York when they met a couple of weeks
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She'll, she'll excoriate him for having not taken the last four years to make huge changes
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I don't, I don't doubt that for a second, but you need a little bit more life experience
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Um, but anyway, the, the point that I made in the column today is that in the 1980 federal
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election, that was the one Joe Clark had come in.
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He'd miscounted how many people were in the house of commons one night that liberals very
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cleverly sabotaged Clark's minority government and forced another election.
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They coerced, cajoled Trudeau to come back and run one more time as their leader.
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And he won a majority, but the unofficial slogan inside the liberal war room in 1980.
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And we know this because there was a liberal strategist who went on to become a very senior
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part of the liberal establishment guy named John Duffy, who was working there with, with
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Keith Davey, who was the long time campaign manager for liberals.
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And he said their motto inside the war room in 1980 was screw the West.
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They knew they were going to have trouble winning seats in all of Western Canada.
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They didn't win any in BC, Alberta, or Saskatchewan.
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They won only two out of 77 Western seats at that time.
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And they knew that, but they knew that going after the oil industry and going after the
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West would make them popular enough in Quebec in particular, and to some extent in Ontario
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and Atlantic Canada, that they could carry those regions and they didn't need Western votes.
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In the French leaders' debate last week, they spent about the first half hour talking about
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The BQ were adamant that Alberta, by name, was the problem.
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He has this passive-aggressive way of dealing with it.
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But he would never have said the things he said about the oil and gas industry and by
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implication about Alberta if it was the hydroelectricity industry and Quebec.
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No, I think that's what's going to propel the anger in Alberta if the Liberals win this election.
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Or, and here's the scenario I think is even more likely, Andrew Scheer and the Conservatives
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will win the greatest number of seats, but it's not going to be like it was in 2008 when
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Harper had a minority, but he had twice as many seats as anybody else.
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And then the three other parties tried to get together and eradicate the will of Canadians
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and overturn the results of the election, and the Governor General stopped them.
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They can say by convention in Canada's constitution that we are all in power.
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We think we can hold the confidence of the House.
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Madam Governor General, will you give us the chance to form the government?
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And so you'll have the Liberals in second place forming a government that is decidedly
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And I can't predict with accuracy what's going to happen in Alberta if that happens.
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I remember in, I think it was 2008, a similar thing was afoot.
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The Liberals didn't come in first, but they tried to cobble together a coalition with
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Jules Duceppe of the Bloc Québécois and the NDP and Michael Ignatieff, if I'm remembering
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Luckily, it fell apart before they had a chance to pull the trigger on it.
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But that kind of trickery is absolutely, it would just, it would prove to Albertans that
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It would be like when the elites in the UK, we mentioned Brexit earlier, when they said,
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yeah, okay, you voted for Brexit, but we know he didn't mean it.
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And this is something I've been thinking about with Pierre Trudeau and Justin Trudeau, because
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you mentioned 1980 and how Trudeau Sr. came up with, screw the West, we'll take the rest.
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The National Energy Program, all sorts of, Mark Lalonde, the Quebec engineer, the whole
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thing, basically said it's about stopping the financial center of gravity moving from
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In fact, they nationalized and created Petro-Canada.
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They simply, like good old communists, wanted to take the means of production for themselves
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But they believed, like the old communists, in smokestacks, in hard hats.
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They thought Ottawa would be better at spending the money than Albertans were.
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But they were in favor of oil and gas development.
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In fact, they talked about national self-sufficiency.
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The difference between Pierre Trudeau, who was simply a communist thief of Alberta oil,
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Is it Justin Trudeau, or at least the Trudeau that we see talking with Gerald Butts' ventriloquism,
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So at least Pierre Trudeau understood its value.
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Justin Trudeau is frittering away $100 billion so far,
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and it's like he doesn't even realize he's killing it.
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There's a great business theorist in the United States in the 70s and 80s,
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a guy named Peter Drucker, who once said that the United States could not stop making things,
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that his economy required the manufacturing of goods,
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we can't survive by all of us selling insurance to one another.
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So you couldn't go into the service sector entirely.
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We can't survive as a prosperous nation without developing our natural resources.
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and the NDP and the Greens and the Bloc all seem to think we can all be baristas.
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That somehow a group of bureaucrats meeting in a committee
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would know better than the best engineers and scientists.
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We have a development in Edmonton called Blatchford,
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And the city has been in charge of developing itself for the last five years
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because it wants a net zero carbon neighborhood with geothermal heating
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And every time the mayor is asked why this won't work,
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he says, well, the technology hasn't developed yet,
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but by the time we need it, we know it will be there.
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How in heaven's name can you know it's going to be?
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That's the kind of thinking that's behind this liberal government.
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And everything we touch that's carbon-based will suddenly turn into green-based
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and we'll all have wonderful high-paying jobs where we only have to work six hours a day,
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but we're going to be able to sustain our way of life.
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It is just such fantastical thinking that you wonder why adults or how adults can actually fall for that stuff.
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And, you know, it's interesting when you get back to Greta Thunberg at this point
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because her scolding of all these people really does rely on them having this magical thinking
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And if we just wish hard enough, the end times will come and we'll all be instantly transformed into paradise.
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You know, it's one thing for a 16-year-old PR machine to say those things.
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But for Gerald Butts, who is the central hub of this government, it reminds me of the clip we've shown many times on this show before
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He was asked about the root of the Northern Gateway Pipeline.
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We think that the oil sands have been expanded too rapidly without a serious plan for environmental remediation in the first place.
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So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there should be another route for a pipeline.
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Because the real alternative is not an alternative route.
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I went to the United Nations to cover the big international Millennium Festival that they were having.
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And there was a very prominent speaker at one of the sessions who said, what we need to do is transition to the love economy.
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You know, I'm worried because you say we all have to do something besides sell insurance to each other.
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At least selling insurance is something useful and valuable and you're organizing.
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But carbon credits and green this and at least, I mean, and again, just the same way, well, at least Pierre Trudeau believed in drilling for oil.
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And at least insurance, I think it's a legit thing, but I take your point, you need to make stuff, too.
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I mean, I understand you weren't saying that insurance is not a real thing.
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But there is almost no one in the caucus, especially in I don't know the caucus.
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There's no one in the cabinet who's ever done anything with their lives.
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I mean, whether it's Catherine McKenna, who was like a U.N. social justice lawyer.
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Or Gerald Butts, who's a de facto cabinet minister, who's just been a politician whisperer his whole life and an environmental activist.
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Or like this whole bevy of whether it's Mariam Monset or Bardis Chaggar or Navdeep Bains.
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All these people really, I can see their PR value.
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I can see why they were a quota or token appointment.
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But not one of them has actually ever done anything.
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But even Bill Morneau, who ran one of the largest pension benefits advisories in the country, in North America, in fact, doesn't seem to understand economics.
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I know that he's also wealthy because his wife has a lot of inherited wealth.
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But they don't seem to have understood the source of any of that money either.
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It's not just the people who've had no private sector experience at all.
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Well, Morneau had lots of private sector experience, but he doesn't seem to have understood the thing he was doing.
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And now you have almost two generations full of people who have been fed the message in education and in the media that we're destroying the planet, that the environment is in crisis.
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But without any understanding, I wrote another column about 10 days ago that said, here are the things Canada would have to do in order just to get to its Paris Accord commitments, which is a 30 percent reduction in CO2 below 2005 levels.
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We would have to stop all oil and gas and shut down all vehicles, tractors, semis, cars, pickup trucks, buses, trains, airplanes, boats.
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They don't talk about it as though the only thing that's stopping us from getting to these marvelous green goals is a lack of societal and political will.
00:32:04.480
There is absolutely no possible way we could get to the goals that they set with the level of engineering that we have now.
00:32:13.620
And even the best minds in the world are not going to find the technology fast enough to meet these farcical standards that have been set for us by these politicians.
00:32:24.980
Well, I mean, we started by talking about what happens if the liberals win.
00:32:29.600
I think if Trudeau wins a majority, it'll be really bad.
00:32:33.660
But if he wins a minority and if he patches together a deal with Elizabeth May or Jagmeet Singh, I think it will be absolutely disastrous.
00:32:43.280
Especially, as you point out, if he actually himself has fewer seats than Andrew Scheer.
00:32:50.100
Replacing Rachel Notley with Jason Kenney was a good first step.
00:32:56.780
I see Trudeau just said he doesn't believe in a national energy corridor.
00:33:04.780
You can foist a Trans-Canada Highway on a country to build it.
00:33:13.800
But only Alberta's industry doesn't get what it needs.
00:33:20.080
Yeah, I am hopeful that Andrew Scheer will somehow win enough seats that he gets to form a government and that the people around him will be as clever as the people around Stephen Harper.
00:33:34.820
Because you remember, for the first five years that Harper was the prime minister, he never had a majority.
00:33:40.340
And yet, on every issue, he was able to cobble together enough of a coalition from other parties, most of whom couldn't stand him.
00:33:48.060
And yet, somehow else, he was able to win vote after vote after vote.
00:34:04.040
Lorne Gunter, senior columnist with the Edmonton Sun.
00:34:08.800
Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about how the federal election could play out.
00:34:25.140
We are all proud of you, Ezra, David, Sheila, Kean, and Jessica.
00:34:37.960
How is that fighting back at an enemy that is suing you for something that is completely legal?
00:34:43.000
The conservatives are not good fighters when it comes to using the law.
00:34:46.660
When I saw that lawsuit against the conservatives, I was appalled.
00:34:51.540
But even more appalling is that the conservatives actually took their video down.
00:34:59.720
If you abuse him harder, does he even give you more things?
00:35:05.300
Well, that's obviously true on anything from global warming to 350,000 migrants a year.
00:35:18.560
I haven't heard a peep from him about free speech in its campaign.
00:35:21.180
In fact, he had police arrest and hang up David Menzies.
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