How censorship REALLY works today — and how Trump could lose
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The New York Post, a mighty newspaper, 200 years old, founded by Alexander Hamilton, banned by Twitter because they re not being nice enough to Joe Biden. I ll go through it, and I ll also talk to Alan Bokhari, author of the book Deleted.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, I talk about the New York Post, a mighty newspaper, 200 years old,
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founded by Alexander Hamilton, banned by Twitter because they're not being nice enough to Joe
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Biden. I'll go through it and I'll also talk to Alan Bokhari, author of the book Deleted.
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videos by Sheila Gunn-Reed and David Benzies, too. Okay, here's today's podcast.
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Tonight, what if you were censored but you didn't even know it? Or phrased a different way,
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how Trump can lose. It's October 19th and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
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Well, and I always, in an investigation interview, I always ask people, even though they've been
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as thorough as you have, in summary fashion, what was your intent and purpose of your article
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with the cartoon illustrations published on February 27, 2006?
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Under Section 3.1a, it talks about intention, purpose. We like to get some background as well.
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Is it, you'd like to get some background or does this determine anything?
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If we publish what we publish, the words in the picture speak for themselves.
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Are you saying that one answer is wrong and one answer is right?
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So if I were to say, hypothetically, that the purpose was to instill hatred and cite hatred
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and cause offense, are you saying that's an acceptable answer?
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I have to look at it in the context of all the information and determine if it was indeed.
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I think you're playing silly bugger here. I think you know that the answer here, that
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Anything is possible, I guess. But again, I look at it. This kind of Section 3 case takes
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a lot of analysis. So there's a lot of things I have to look at. That piece of information
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We published those cartoons for the intention and purpose of exercising our inalienable rights
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as free-born Albertans to publish whatever the hell we want, no matter what the hell you
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I've probably given 200 interviews with people other than the state where I give a very thoughtful
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and nuanced expression of my intent. But the only thing I have to say to the government
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about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so. And it's my right to do so
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for reasonable intentions. And it's my right to do so for extremely unreasonable purposes.
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Oh, for the good old days, when censors told you they were coming to censor you, they had
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a hearing about it. They published their findings. You could appeal. That video clip, if you didn't
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recognize it, was from a dozen years ago when a censor named Shirlene McGovern with a business
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card, identifying her as a bureaucrat with the Alberta Government's Human Rights Commission,
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came at me for publishing the Danish cartoons of Mohammed in the Western Standard magazine.
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So stop right there and do an inventory. Number one, I knew the charge. Blasphemy against Islam,
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really. I mean, even though they called it publishing something likely to expose a person
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to hatred or contempt. It was junk law. It was illiberal law. It was unconstitutional. But at least
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we knew the law I supposedly broke. Point two, I knew who the complainant was in that case. I knew
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who was running the Inquisition. The complainant was an extremist imam from Pakistan named Syed
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Zoharwardy. He was the complainant and Shirlene McGovern was the censor. Three, there was a process.
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It wasn't fair. It wasn't the same as a civil court. There's no rules of procedure. There were no normal
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standards of evidence. The concept of precedent didn't apply. There were a dozen problems with
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the procedure, but there was a process and I was invited to it. Fourth, at the end of the day,
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the process was subject to political oversight. My release of that videotape of my interrogation
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so discredited and embarrassed the Human Rights Commission that Shirlene McGovern asked to be
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transferred off my case. The cabinet minister in charge of the Human Rights Commission itself
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actually called it a kangaroo court to reporters and the federal government amended their human
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rights law to repeal their censorship provision. So that's an awful story with a slightly less awful
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ending, but at least there was a story there. That's how censorship was done back in 2006, 7, 8.
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Just FYI, the complaint was in 2006 and it took two years for those losers in the government to even
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interrogate me. That's another thing. Censorship that moves at the speed of government, the laziest
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bureaucrats in the country, that's somehow less terrifying, isn't it? What about now? How are you
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censored now? Sure, there are still human rights complaints and government prosecutions. Here's one.
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Give me a minute on this one. I see in the news that Arthur Topham is in trouble again with the
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censors. You see this story here, Quinnell Mann found guilty of breaching probation on hate crime
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conviction. Let me read this very short story to you. A decision was handed down on Friday for 73-year-old
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Arthur Topham. He will be back in court on October 27th to set a date for sentencing. A 12-member jury
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originally found Topham guilty in December of 2015 on one of two counts against him of promoting hatred
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against those of the Jewish faith on his Radical Press website. He then lost a charter challenge on that
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conviction in February of 2017 and received a six-month conditional sentence and two years probation.
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Court documents reveal that on or around January 3rd of 2018, Topham is accused of failing to comply
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with the conditions of his probation, specifically that he not publish or post to any internet site or to
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any social media where such postings can be read by the general public, any information about persons of the
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Jewish religion or ethnic origin. Now, that's it. That's the whole story. I've heard of Arthur Topham
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before. He's a crank. He had a very obscure website with very little traffic, most of which was probably
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just undercover cops and human rights hate finders. They'd been hunting this guy, Topham, for about 15
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years over this stupid website he had, Radical Press. They'd had a whole jury trial, sounds like. And then an
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appeal, sounds like. How much is being spent on getting this guy? It's got to be a million bucks.
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And in the end, a suspended sentence as in nothing, really? Except he made a promise not to publish
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anything about Jews ever again. Now, I'm not sure how that's even constitutional, really. You can't write
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anything about Jews. Just, you can't. It's not a normal thing to say in a free country. If someone rants on
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an obscure website that he thinks the Jews control the media, and then a group of Jews prosecute him,
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shut down his website, get him banned from talking about the Jews controlling the media,
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I don't think you convinced him that he's wrong. I think you spend a lot of time and money going
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after a 73-year-old man who used to have a blog that no one was reading. And I have actually seen
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some of the things he wrote on his website. And they're pretty garden variety anti-Jewish conspiracy
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theories. Nothing you wouldn't find on any university campus. Subsidized by student fees
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as part of the more excitable Muslim student groups or the anti-Israel activists who pretend not to be
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anti-Semitic. They call themselves boycott, divest, and sanction activists, BDS. But they really only hate
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Israel. Imagine thinking that BDS is a fig leaf for just Jew hatred. So yeah, while some really obsessed
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narcs go after a 73-year-old man for saying Jews are persecuting him, just go on to Twitter,
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you know, for example, and see literally millions of people saying the same thing in real time. Here,
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I just typed in Jews control the media into Twitter, and I got this endless list of comments.
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Here, this one, Jews start all the wars. I'm just picking these at random, and these are in English.
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Try in Arabic or Farsi. You don't have to search random people, too.
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There are plenty of horrible things said by official people, people that Twitter recognizes with that
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little blue checkmark calling them verified. People like Ilhan Omar, the Minnesota congresswoman
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who came from Somalia, or even Iran's Ayatollahs. They're allowed on Twitter.
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Yeah, but you keep going after Arthur Topham, the 73-year-old crank. I think that's called a
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placebo. Go after him very bravely. He's easier to take on than Islamists who arrive in Canada every
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day, unvetted from parts of the world where it's just taken for granted that you hate Jews.
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So my point with that little anecdote about Arthur Topham is to show you how stupid and slow and
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expensive and irrelevant the official human rights anti-hate industry is. Social media vomits out a
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Niagara Falls of anti-Semitism every hour. Much of it linked to terrorism. Much of it from official
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states, countries. But this old crank from Quesnel, BC, he's the risk. Okay, got it. But back to
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censorship. I'm all for censoring terrorists. I don't believe in censoring mere anti-Semitism or
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other bigotry, though. I'm for censoring calls to violence and other crimes. Yeah, for sure.
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But we can't just censor hard feelings. And yeah, I'm sorry, hate is a feeling. Sorry you can't stop
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people from feeling a feeling. But if you try, especially if that feeling is hate or powerlessness,
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I'm guessing they're just going to feel that feeling even more. I don't think they've convinced
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Arthur Topham not to hate Jews. But what about censorship, not of terrorism and not of violence,
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not even of hate, but just of conservatives that's been blurred with hate. You're a hateful
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conservative. Using all the censorship apparatus that was built in the name of tackling terrorism,
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tackling violence and tackling hate, whatever that is. And that brings me to the case of the New York
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Post, one of the largest and oldest newspapers in America. They had the audacity to report on the
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story of the year. Emails reveal how Hunter Biden tried to cash in big on behalf of family with
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Chinese firms. Let me read a little bit because I'm pretty sure you didn't see this story on the
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CBC. Hunter Biden pursued lucrative deals involving China's largest private energy company,
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including one that he said would be interesting for me and my family. Emails obtained by the Post
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Show. One email sent to Biden on May 13, 2017, with the subject line expectations, included details
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of remuneration packages for six people involved in an unspecified business venture. Biden was
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identified as chair, vice chair, depending on agreement with CEFC, an apparent reference to the
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former Shanghai-based conglomerate CEFC China Energy Company. His pay was pegged at $850, and the email
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also noted that Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate. In addition, the email outlined a
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provisional agreement under which 80% of the equity of shares or shares in the new company would be
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split equally among four people whose initials correspond to the sender and three recipients with
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H apparently referring to Biden. It goes on and on. There's so much more. There's many stories that
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have come up since then. Biden has not refuted it. He's just mad to be asked about it.
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And Mr. Biden, what is your response to the New York Post story about your thoughts, sir?
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I know you'd ask it. I have no response. It's another spirit campaign right up your alley.
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Yeah, scolding a reporter for asking a question. Did that actually just work on the media? Oh my God,
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yes it did. They're not asking about it anymore. But the news here is not that the New York Post
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was summoned by some human rights commission like Arthur Topham was or me in the cartoons or anything
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like that. He wasn't censored by any government. They actually have the First Amendment down there
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in the U.S. No one could knock out that story like I was put on trial for the cartoons.
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Except the social media companies, Twitter, Facebook. They just banned the story. They banned
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anyone from linking to it. They banned anyone from repeating it. Totally locked down the Twitter
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account of the New York Post itself. Banning them from speaking. It's still banned today.
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Banning anyone who linked, including the official Trump campaign and various senior Trump spokesmen.
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There was no complainant that we know about. Remember I had that complaint with that Muslim
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imam from Pakistan in my case? There's no information at all. No chance of a hearing. No chance for a
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lawyer. No chance to meet the case. No fight. No chance to fight the case. No transparency.
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No neutral oversight. No rules of procedure. None of that stuff. Just click. They're banned.
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Banned. By who? Oh, we don't know. Censored. Just stopped three weeks before an election.
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And the rest of the media, if they weren't silent, they were cheering.
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Now, the New York Post is big enough that they didn't just disappear.
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They're kicking up a fuss. But who else has been deleted this way for the crime of being
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conservative? Or more to the point, getting in the way of Joe Biden winning.
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When I was censored, I could look my censor in the eye. Every day, millions of people are censored
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by strangers and increasingly by artificial intelligence trained to copy censors. There's
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no debating it. There's no hearings. You're just gone. It just didn't happen. You never existed.
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You've been deleted. You're a rumor. You're de-platformed. You're unpersoned.
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Coming up, I speak with the author of the new book called Deleted.
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Well, a lot of Americans know the name Alexander Hamilton because of the hit Broadway musical.
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But did you know that Alexander Hamilton created a mighty newspaper that's still around 200 years
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later? It's called the New York Post. It's not just still around. It's bigger than ever. It's one
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of the largest circulation newspapers in America. It's very flavorful. It's got that tabloid style.
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But you can't link to it, at least not to certain stories in it, on Twitter. You see, the New York Post
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broke a massive story that Hunter Biden, the son of Joe Biden, the former vice president and the
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presidential nominee for the Democrats this time around, had massive corrupt dealings with China
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and that the corruption touched Joe Biden himself, that Joe Biden was in on the take.
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This information came from a laptop computer that Hunter Biden left with a Mac repair shop.
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Tens of thousands of emails corroborating the story, but Twitter simply banned any links to it.
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Here to help me tell this shocking story is our friend Alan Bocari, Breitbart News senior
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technology correspondent and the author of the new book, Deleted Big Tech's Battle to Erase the Trump
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Movement and Steal the Election. Alan, great to see you again. I've never seen censorship this bad
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before. I've never seen it so blatant before. They don't care who knows. They've just got three weeks
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to go, don't they? They've really crossed the Rubicon here. I mean, what was especially surprising
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for me was that Facebook took the rare step of foregoing the usual plausible deniability thing
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that they do, where they just wait for the third party fact checkers, who are of course all left-wing
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and partisan, to rate a story before they suppress it. In this case, Facebook actually went and suppressed
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the New York Post story before any of their fact checkers had provided a judgment.
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Yes, Twitter sort of went a lot further than Facebook. They completely locked the New York
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Post account. The New York Post account is still locked today, actually five days after the story
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broke. And they're not allowing the New York Post to regain access to that account unless they
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delete the original tweet containing the article. And of course, why would you want to do
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that? You're implicitly admitting guilt if you do that. I certainly wouldn't want to do that.
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So Twitter and Facebook, by coincidence, have both decided to nuke a late-breaking story that seems
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to be meticulously corroborated by background documents. I should note that the Biden campaign,
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at least as of this moment, has not discredited or claimed that this is false. They have not said
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those are forgeries. They have not disowned it, as far as I know. They're simply not discussing it.
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So it has not been undermined. In fact, the director of national intelligence says there's no evidence
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whatsoever that this is a foreign hack or a plant. If so, it would be quite an effort. I mean,
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I suppose theoretically it could be. This is simply a political judgment by Twitter and Facebook
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three weeks before the vote to shut down the equivalent of Watergate in this election.
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Am I right in that or is that over the top? That's not over the top at all. It's extraordinary.
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The Biden campaign have not denied the veracity of the emails, and yet Twitter is still suppressing
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the New York Post. It's extraordinary. And what's more, the Biden campaign has just today called the
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lid. No more meetings with the press for the next few days until the debates. They're just avoiding
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the media altogether, avoiding the spotlight. Not that the media would actually ask them any tough
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questions about this because, you know, they're in on the suppression. I've really never seen anything
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like it, trying to suppress a clearly important national story like this just a few weeks before the
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election. On the Silicon Valley companies though, because the sense, this is a story that's big
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enough that you can't really contain it. And the more you try to contain it, the bigger it gets.
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I should add that doesn't happen to most victims of censorship. Most victims of censorship are not
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heard of again because they're not big enough to create a giant media firestorm. But in this case,
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I think that it's really backfired on the tech giants.
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Well, maybe because you're talking about it and I'm talking about it and a lot of
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extremely online people are talking about it. But like you mentioned, if the link was killed on
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Twitter, if Facebook is deleting this like it's a hate crime, you have to be pretty motivated to get
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these stories. You mentioned that Joe Biden has declared a lid. That's campaign speak for telling
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journalists, don't worry, he ain't going to say anything in public for three days. That's a shocking
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thing to do in a campaign so close to election day. But look at this. Biden was shopping,
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buying some ice cream cones. And the media, who finally had access to him, look at what they asked
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Hello, have a safe one. We got everybody no shakes, didn't we?
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We got one vanilla, one chocolate, but I wanted to get a, what we call black and white,
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So my question to you, Alan, is you and I are really dialed in, but if mainstream media reporters
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are just asking about ice cream cones, is this story really getting out? Like, has the New York
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Times or the Washington Post dug deep here, or have they just engaged in distractions, misdirections,
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downplaying? Like, if you're not part of the conservative campaign movement, do you even
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Well, this is the whole problem of the filter bubble that these tech giants have created in
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the wake of 2016. If you're an undecided voter, and this is the real danger to Trump as well,
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if you're an undecided voter today, going online, trying to find out more information about the
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two candidates, all you're going to see is a stream of propaganda from the mainstream media.
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If you Google Joe Biden, or if you Google Donald Trump, this is the real danger, not to political
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partisans. You know, there are tens of millions of conservatives in the country who will know all
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about this story. But the real danger, as you correctly point out, is, you know, will this story
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ever reach undecided voters? That's an open question. And I do think that November the 3rd is going to be
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a test of whether Silicon Valley can steal an election. They've certainly been trying
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over the past four years. All of these new words they've invented, disinformation, fake news,
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you name it, all emerged right after the 2016 election. My sources in Facebook say that people
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who push the disinformation panic inside Facebook, inside these other companies as well, all the most
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anti-Trump people at those companies. And then they went on to staff them. In fact, in Breitbart News,
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we broke a story a couple of days ago, revealing that one of Facebook's top
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global content regulators used to advise Joe Biden on Ukraine. So she was, you know,
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deeply tied to this very story. That's incredible. Now, one of the things that I found most shocking,
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I find it shocking that for five days now, the New York Post has been censored by Twitter,
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and not a peep that I can see from Reporters Without Borders, American Civil Liberties Union,
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any of the, you know, Nobel Peace Prize, Nobel Literature. Where's the professors? Where's the
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mass letters signed by every journalism professor, every law professor? Where's the pro bono litigation?
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Where's all that? If the shoe were on the other foot, if some company, it's impossible to even
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daydream such as an alternate universe. I mean, there's nothing, there's no possible equivalent to
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it. If something Trumpy shut down a Democrat voice, you wouldn't hear the end of it. But there's
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silence and collusion. The crazy part is what Twitter's saying. When people try to tweet
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that story, Twitter says that it's an unsafe website, an unsafe link, as if you'll get malware
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by going to the New York Post, as if you'll get some computer virus. And they say it's hacked
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materials, so it's against their policy. I didn't hear that when they published Donald Trump's
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tax returns, which were illegally stolen. I didn't hear that over anything
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from Wikipedia or any leaks. The whole Trump administration has been a leaky sieve that's
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being published. Just that they're not even pretending that they're doing anything other
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than being political choosers here, are they? Calling it unsafe. Yeah, I mean, that unsafe feature
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that Twitter has, it just shows you what Silicon Valley has done over the past four years. What they've
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done is they've taken tools that were meant to protect users from things like malware and viruses
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and spam. That's what the unsafe link warning was originally intended to do. And they're now
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applying it to politics. It's the same with shadow banning. Shadow banning is the covert suppression of
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people's posts, so that you don't appear at the top of people's feeds. People never see what you
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actually post on these platforms. Or if you create a website, people will never go to the front page of
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Google. They'll be buried on page 100, page 1000. The way this used to work was, you know,
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big tech companies would employ shadow banning to get rid of spam bots, to get rid of sites pushing
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malware, to get rid of sites pushing illegal content. But ever since 2016, they've been using those same
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tools to suppress people for political reasons. This is another thing that I've been told. You know,
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this isn't just my opinion. It's what I've been told by people who work for Twitter, who work for
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Google, work for Facebook. So that's, that's another, that's another thing we see with the
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whole unsafe label. They're placed on the New York Post website.
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Now, in recent weeks, I've seen President Trump tweet about Section 230 of the Communications
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Decency Act. I've seen Josh Hawley, the Senator from Missouri say the same. You and I have talked
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about that before. That's a decades old law that really helped the internet get started. It basically
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said, hey, internet service providers, we're going to keep you immune from any content on your site,
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as long as you stay neutral. So you're like a phone company. You can't be sued for what people say on
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the phones, as long as you don't meddle. Well, they're meddling like crazy now. So changing Section
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230 would make them responsible for the meddling. I see Trump tweeting about it. I see Josh Hawley saying,
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I'm going to subpoena, you know, the head of Twitter. Yeah, three weeks before the end of the,
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before the election. I don't know why these guys haven't done anything real in four years.
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In the chance that they win again, I don't know if they're going to do anything.
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Google, Facebook, YouTube, all these places, they spend more on lobbying than any other industry,
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more than the oil industry, more than the arms industry. They own Washington, they own the
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Republicans. I simply don't believe Donald Trump, Josh Hawley, or others when they say,
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we're going to change things. Really? You're about to be killed by the folks who you promised to change
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and you haven't. It really is a crocious how long the Republicans in Congress really waited to,
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and, you know, and the FCC, frankly, waited to act on this issue. It's, they let it get to this
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point. I mean, the real issue we have, and you touched on this before as well, you know,
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how there's no outcry from, you know, the institutions and society that are supposed
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to stand up for free speech, or supposed to stand up for freedom of the press, nothing from them.
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We've, it shows you how far we've fallen as a society, because it, I certainly remember a time,
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and I'm not, I'm not super old, when people would, it was a common thing to say, well,
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I disagree with what people say, would, you know, extremists say, but they have a right to say it.
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We shouldn't be pushing to ostracize someone just because they have crazy or fringe views. But
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not only, you know, not only do Democrats now defend Trump supporters getting attacked in the
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street by Antifa just for being a mainstream Republican Trump supporter, but also Republicans
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in Congress refuse to defend, you know, the slightly crazy people who are gradually getting kicked off
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these platforms over the past four years. And that just allowed them to escalate and escalate and
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escalate until they finally reached the New York Post and President Trump himself. So they didn't
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defend free speech for everyone. The census came for them. It was inevitable. You have to defend,
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you have to defend the fringe. Otherwise, the census will inevitably escalate. That's exactly
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what happened. That's why I got to this point. I will say the Trump administration in the past
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six or seven months has been making some very positive moves on social media censorship.
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The reason the FCC is now proposing a rulemaking change on Section 230, that critical law you
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mentioned, is because the Trump administration put a petition in front of them months before this
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actually happened, months before this New York Post story was suppressed. So they have been moving on
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it. And I think a second term Trump would be quite positive for fixing this problem,
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obviously. It could have come a lot sooner. But certainly with the Joe Biden administration,
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he's going to use the power of the federal government to do the exact opposite. He's going
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to use the federal government to press for even more censorship.
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It's just been crazy to watch. I mean, they locked the account of the official Trump campaign.
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They locked the account of Trump's official spokesman. They actually locked the account of Trump's
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public public health advisor because he said something that was, what, that Twitter experts
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thought was wrong. I mean, they routinely put warnings under Trump's own comments as if they're
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greater experts than him. I don't see the same thing done to say the ayatollahs of Iran who still use the
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site. I'm deeply depressed by what I see. I mean, I'm not positive about the election. I think it's on a knife's
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edge. If you told me that Trump wins, I'd say, okay. If you told me he loses, I'd say, yeah. And if you said he
00:29:52.180
loses in a landslide, I'd say, I believe it with the amount of disinformation from the left. They accuse
00:29:59.460
Trump of disinformation while they're the ones interfering with the internet. I am not sanguine about this at all.
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And I have to say, I'm increasingly in the view that any conservative online entity
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like Breitbart and Rebel News, it's gone from Alex Jones being censored to the New York Post being
00:30:18.660
censored. I got to tell you, if Breitbart where you work or Rebel News where I work are around a year
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That's, I mean, it certainly isn't a knife edge, not just the election, but as you point out, internet freedom
00:30:35.780
as a whole. It's, I will say, like, as I said, you know, the Trump administration is making some interesting
00:30:47.060
moves. I think the election itself, that's the real question. I certainly think Trump would be
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winning in a landslide, winning in a landslide, if it hadn't been for internet censorship. Because
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the amount of momentum that the populist movement had, largely thanks to their ability to organize
00:31:05.300
online in 2016, 2015, even 2017, was momentous. They were dwarfing, you know, the old tired liberal
00:31:14.980
globalist movements, which had no popular support, still have no popular support, really.
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If that had been allowed to continue, you know, I think Trump would be easily winning this election.
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The fact that it's so close is a result of internet censorship. And I think if he loses the election,
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it will be because these tech platforms stole it from him. Because the way they manipulate information
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is so much more insidious than the way the mainstream media propagandizes. It happens in invisible
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ways you can't even, you can't even detect. That's why I wrote the book, Deleted, because
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it's such a complicated topic, but such an important topic that people need to get their heads around.
00:31:53.620
Yeah. Listen, great to talk with you. Hopefully, my pessimism is not borne out. We've been talking
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with our friend Alan Bocari, the Breitbart News senior technology writer and the author of Deleted,
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Big Tech's Battle to Erase the Trump Movement and Steal the Election. You take care, Alan, and you stay free.
00:32:10.660
Thanks, Ezra. You too. All right. Thanks. Stay with us. More ahead.
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Hey, welcome back on my show Thursday on Dr. Crowley's book, Gardeners vs. Designers. Jane writes,
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Such a good interview. Gonna buy the book. Maybe more than one. Hey, well, there you go. I say,
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support conservative writers. Jay writes, I will absolutely be buying this book. What a wake-up
00:32:41.540
call to us all. We've been lectured to by Trudeau and his liberal government for five years. We have
00:32:45.940
been talked down to, criticized, and dictated to for far too long. What an absolute treasure this man is,
00:32:51.380
and thank you for bringing him to our attention. Well, that's very nice of you to say about me,
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and I'm sure he appreciates it, too. All right. That's the show for today, folks. Until tomorrow,
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on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.