Rebel News Podcast - May 28, 2021


I think it’s pretty clear： media fact-checkers are a joke


Episode Stats

Length

36 minutes

Words per Minute

156.36374

Word Count

5,714

Sentence Count

453

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

What's up with all the government fact checking these days? Is it about holding politicians to account, or is it about checking the facts? Ezra asks the question, and why should others go to jail if they don't like it?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Do you know what a fact checker is in the news business?
00:00:03.920 I would think it's anyone in the news business. Isn't that sort of what news is? You're checking
00:00:09.180 the facts, who, what, where, where I went. So what are all these government-funded fact checkers
00:00:14.620 really about? I'll give you my thoughts on it, and I think the way to answer it is to follow
00:00:19.640 the money. I'll show you where millions of dollars in fact checking comes from.
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00:00:58.960 Tonight, I think it's pretty clear, media fact checkers are a joke. It's May 27th, and
00:01:17.840 this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:21.220 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:25.000 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:29.060 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:01:33.940 right to do so.
00:01:34.940 What's a fact checker in the news business? I mean, aren't all news reporters fact checkers?
00:01:46.620 Pretty basic journalism to tell a story. Who, what, where, why, when, and how. You know,
00:01:53.320 facts. That's the news. That's journalism. That's any investigation for the truth. That's
00:01:58.300 what a detective does. So what about this new phenomenon in journalism called fact checking?
00:02:07.280 Isn't that what all journalism is? At least the news side of things? I mean, isn't that
00:02:13.040 what the reporter himself would be doing in the first instance? And maybe that reporter's
00:02:17.360 editor, just to check a few things, and maybe in some prickly cases, bring a lawyer in to
00:02:22.240 really make sure everything's just airtight. But isn't a journalist who calls himself a fact
00:02:27.520 checker just a journalist? Isn't that redundant? Don't all journalists already do that?
00:02:33.820 Well, you see, I see there's something, I think there's something ideological about this new
00:02:38.300 terminology. Trump liked to call out what he described as fake news. So the, so he
00:02:46.300 fact checked the media in his own way, and they sure didn't like it. And they fact checked him
00:02:54.760 right back. That's another way of saying they argued. But these days, especially with Trump gone,
00:03:01.020 fact checking isn't actually about holding power to account. Not a lot of fact checking of Justin
00:03:07.060 Trudeau or Joe Biden. Fact checking these days is when some journalists try to discredit
00:03:14.480 other journalists, when some journalists, typically liberal journalists, but more accurately
00:03:19.420 corporate journalists, try to discredit conservative journalists, but more accurately
00:03:24.700 dissident independent journalists. Instead of holding the government to account, instead of
00:03:30.660 holding lockdown politicians or Justin Trudeau or Joe Biden to account, these fact checkers try to
00:03:36.360 hold reporters to account if they don't like those reports. Now, I'm all for holding people to account
00:03:41.760 if it really is fact checking. But so much of what goes by fact checking these days is just opinions.
00:03:47.060 It's a smear, actually. It's an attempt to hush up those who would actually try to hold government
00:03:52.940 truly to account. Here it is in contrast on a goofy story. Remember when this happened?
00:03:58.820 It was just a couple months ago. Now, look at how the New York Times handled that
00:04:28.460 versus how it handled Trump walking carefully that one time. See, with Biden, the New York Times wants
00:04:36.640 you to know he's just fine. With Donald Trump, there are health questions that need to be answered. I
00:04:43.420 mean, if you think that's bad, that's nothing. There's a really funny satirical website called
00:04:49.240 the Babylon Bee. Much funnier than The Onion, but it's conservative. So it's fact checked all the time.
00:04:56.680 A satirical site. It's a joke site. That's what satirical means. It's a site of absurd mockery.
00:05:05.700 Humor. Jokes. But because it comes from a conservative point of view and a Christian point of view,
00:05:10.940 this joke site is fact checked. They fact check the jokes. Would you ever see anyone try to fact check a
00:05:17.640 comedy sketch on Saturday Night Live, the liberal comedy hour on TV? They'd be nuts. Everyone would say,
00:05:25.340 are you crazy? That's a comedy sketch. But the Babylon Bee is actually fact checked all the time.
00:05:31.460 Here's a funny joke they made about Lego. You know Lego? No longer having male or female pieces.
00:05:39.360 It's sort of funny. It's a one-liner. It's just a quick gag. It's like an image, really.
00:05:43.680 It mocks the left, though, a little bit, right? So PolitiFact, a fact-checking website,
00:05:53.460 literally tried to debunk the joke. It was a joke. But they actually phoned Lego to check,
00:06:02.520 I swear to God. Lego did not respond to PolitiFact's query about the post.
00:06:07.760 That is so pathetic. So who pays for PolitiFact? It sounds so official, doesn't it? Well, look,
00:06:16.080 lots of big corporate institutions pay for it. The two biggest being Facebook, as you can see,
00:06:22.260 and TikTok. That's the Chinese Communist Party-controlled app. So big tech, Mark Zuckerberg,
00:06:30.540 and the Chinese Communist Party. Got it. That explains a lot, doesn't it? Say,
00:06:35.500 do you think PolitiFact is going to fact-check Mark Zuckerberg or China anytime soon?
00:06:42.460 Sort of the opposite, actually. They'll sure fact-check the enemies of their patrons,
00:06:48.100 Facebook and China. Like a year ago, when normal people started asking,
00:06:51.520 hey, is this virus from Wuhan related in any way to the Wuhan Institute of Virology?
00:06:59.700 The Chinese virus lab studying coronaviruses. I wonder. Well, the fact-checkers all said,
00:07:06.780 that's debunked. That's racist. Well, how could they say it was debunked before it was even
00:07:12.380 investigated? They could say that. They did say that because the Chinese Communist Party told them so.
00:07:19.780 So they were taking that as the factual truth, standing with power, standing with their donors,
00:07:25.060 defending their donors against criticism. That's fact-checking these days. It's spin. It's a
00:07:32.400 cover-up. It's the opposite of fact-checking. And Anthony Fauci, who channeled the same myth. Look at this.
00:07:38.560 Stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that it evolved in nature and then jumped species.
00:07:45.560 One of the issues of saying, could that virus that was in, first of all, if you accept the premise,
00:07:57.080 which is very strongly supported by scientific evidence, that it was not deliberately mutated
00:08:05.140 and deliberately changed. And you say, if it was in the wild and evolving, the likelihood of jump
00:08:14.000 species naturally, someone will say, well, maybe somebody took it from the wild, put it in the lab,
00:08:21.540 and then it escaped from the lab. But that means it was in the wild to begin with.
00:08:27.780 There's a lot of cloudiness around the origins of COVID-19 still. So I wanted to ask,
00:08:32.760 are you still confident that it developed naturally?
00:08:35.360 Oh, I'm not convinced about that. I think that we should continue to investigate
00:08:40.400 what went on in China until we find out, to the best of our ability, exactly what happened.
00:08:46.800 Yeah. Wow. Here's the New York Times on the flip-floppery.
00:08:51.180 Oh, they mocked anyone who asked any questions about the Chinese government. Racist, conspiracy
00:08:56.240 theories, go put on a tinfoil hat. They sided with power against skepticism. But now that Trump is gone
00:09:03.360 and such questions don't benefit him, they'll allow questions for China. Vox is another one of
00:09:09.980 these left-wing media sites that spends more energy fact-checking conservative media than liberal
00:09:14.980 governments. They try to secretly edit their earlier mockery of anyone who mentioned the possibility
00:09:21.640 that the Wuhan virus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Why would they do that in secret?
00:09:27.700 Isn't the whole point about corrections and fact-checks, you're very, very transparent.
00:09:30.820 Why are you changing what you did in secret? You don't want your fact-checking to be fact-checked,
00:09:37.120 maybe? And look at this. Now, Mark Zuckerberg, one of the world's richest men, the founder of
00:09:43.100 Facebook, he has given us his permission to talk about this. You see, until now, if you posted
00:09:49.600 anything on your Facebook page about this question, you would be suspended or banned or your post would
00:09:55.480 be deleted because Mark Zuckerberg said so. But now, a year later, His Majesty Mark Zuckerberg will
00:10:02.100 permit you to talk about it. What a benevolent God he is. I'm so grateful to him. You know that story
00:10:09.920 about him, right? Do you know how gross Mark Zuckerberg is? What a weirdo he is? You know,
00:10:14.720 he actually asked the dictator of China, Xi Jinping, to name his own daughter. Mark Zuckerberg was having
00:10:23.620 a baby girl and asked Xi Jinping to name his daughter. What a freak. Zuckerberg, Xi Jinping is
00:10:33.380 used to people slobbering all over him, but this was too much even for him. He declined the weirdo.
00:10:39.860 So yeah, fact checkers. It was a YouTube fact checker who suspended us at Rebel News for a week
00:10:45.860 because I did a video back in January called, literally, if big tech can silence Trump,
00:10:54.980 they can silence anyone. And they banned me. They banned that. They suspended us for a week,
00:11:00.820 claiming that I failed their fact check, even though I think that rather proves it, don't you think?
00:11:05.420 So yeah, fact checkers. Do you know why I mentioned this? Because you know who's getting
00:11:11.040 into the fact checking business in Canada big time. You guessed it. We mentioned to you Facebook the
00:11:17.140 other day. They just colonized 14 Canadian news organizations just last week, giving millions
00:11:22.360 of dollars to buy them off. But they actually have a long way to go to catch up to Trudeau's own
00:11:27.820 propaganda. I mean, here's a story from about a year ago. Just one tiny example. $3 million from
00:11:34.240 Stephen Gilbo to fact check critics of the Wuhan virus and the government's response to it. Just
00:11:39.880 paying to demonize the government's critics. Just $3 million. Sure, why not? Literally millions more
00:11:46.700 in a raft of studies targeting misinformation. Again, that's just what government calls ideas it
00:11:53.480 doesn't like. The leading demonizer of independent thought is, of course, the CBC. They have a whole
00:11:59.380 raft of hit pieces they call fact checks, but they're not fact checks. They're certainly not
00:12:04.740 fact checks of Justin Trudeau, who could use one or two. They're smears against other opinions.
00:12:10.060 You might remember this incredible one. Some Canadians who received unsolicited copies of
00:12:15.020 Epoch Times upset by a claim that China was behind virus. So they were actually criticizing Epoch Times for
00:12:21.940 getting it right. That headline, by the way, they changed it from the even more insane one beforehand.
00:12:27.120 That's the CBC, the state broadcaster, smearing private media entities for daring to criticize
00:12:33.380 China and Canada. Just smearing one of the few media companies in Canada that's not on the take.
00:12:38.160 So yeah, fact checking. Let's fact check a joke about Lego pieces. Let's fact check critics of Trudeau,
00:12:45.480 critics of China, critics of Mark Zuckerberg. That's not about facts, is it? That's not about
00:12:51.040 holding power to account, is it? That's about discrediting those who actually do hold power to
00:12:57.060 account. Do you know who the only trustworthy fact checker out there is? It's you. Stay with us for more.
00:13:09.000 Welcome back. Well, we have been interested in the virus that came from Wuhan. Well, actually,
00:13:26.280 before the emergency was even called, we started seeing stories out of China and started poking
00:13:31.340 around, I think, before the mainstream media did in many ways. And I want to take you back to a live
00:13:38.220 stream I did in early April of last year. So I'm talking, I don't know, almost 14 months ago,
00:13:45.860 I found a video online produced by the government of China bragging about their virus catcher. Now,
00:13:56.040 he didn't catch the virus himself that we know of, but he would go into caves, trap bats, get the blood
00:14:04.120 sucking ticks from the bats, take them to the lab and examine them and investigate them. And this is
00:14:11.840 what he did for a living. You'll see him in the lab, by the way, without any protective gear on. And at the
00:14:18.740 end of this video, I'm not going to play the whole thing, but I'll play a few minutes for you. At the end of
00:14:23.760 it, they actually boast that this lab and others like it in China, they have discovered more viruses
00:14:31.880 than the rest of the world combined. And they were very proud of this and their bat virus research
00:14:39.740 until, of course, the global pandemic hit. Here, let me show you what we uncovered. I suppose others
00:14:46.560 uncovered it too, but we brought it to you almost 14 months ago. Take a look.
00:14:53.760 So this is obviously, can you hear, can they hear my voice over top? Yeah. So this is obviously a
00:15:01.880 professionally produced documentary. Obviously, it's government propaganda. You saw the name of the
00:15:09.440 agency, China science communication, youth in the wild.
00:15:15.560 That's a cave, obviously. Did you see the bat there? When we are confronted with an invisible
00:15:36.560 enemy, we can find threats hidden deeper. Only when we hide ourselves. It sounds like a haiku.
00:15:51.680 Youth in the wild, the invisible defender. So this is calling these virus scientists invisible defenders.
00:15:58.080 So he's got his protective gear. I am not a doctor, but I work to cure and save people. Really, do you, mate?
00:16:07.040 I work in virus sample collection and classification.
00:16:23.580 Those are some ominous images.
00:16:37.580 Viruses have been the leading cause of human death. They have been highly elusive and caught people off guard.
00:16:44.580 Invisible to the naked eye. Infect people through vectors.
00:16:51.580 Over the course of evolution, vectors have co-existed with the virus. A vector is the host of the virus, I think.
00:17:03.580 This is our mission.
00:17:08.580 This is our mission.
00:17:10.580 Wuhan Centers for Disease Prevention and Control. There you go. Did you see that? That's their top, okay, keep, no, yeah, keep rolling.
00:17:17.580 That's their top virus lab in the whole country, just happens to be in Wuhan.
00:17:23.580 So this guy's out there catching creepy crawlies.
00:17:30.580 It's a very pretty background. This is very professionally done.
00:17:36.580 The caves are my workbench.
00:17:38.580 Oh, can you go back ten seconds? What did he say there about the caves?
00:17:42.580 Mountains and plain surface, my office. Is that so pretty?
00:17:46.580 Yeah, keep going. The caves are my workbench. One female and one male. We are so lucky.
00:17:54.580 So he's catching bats. He's going into caves and catching bats. Hubei province.
00:18:01.580 It's a treasure trove for vector. This tick can kill people. We caught one now.
00:18:07.580 This is a hell of a video. This is not some amateur production.
00:18:18.580 Among all known creatures, the bats are rich in various viruses inside.
00:18:23.580 You can find most viruses responsible for human diseases, like rabies virus, SARS, and Ebola.
00:18:30.580 Accordingly, the caves frequented by bats become our main battlefields.
00:18:42.580 He's going into the cave of bats.
00:18:49.580 Wet, dark, and lonely. Yeah, that's right. Bats.
00:18:57.580 Usually there's an increase humans can hardly reach.
00:19:01.580 Only in these places can we find the most ideal virus vector samples.
00:19:06.580 Watch out. Most bats living here are horseshoe bats.
00:19:11.580 Oh, can you go back for one second?
00:19:13.580 See, the horseshoe bats, that's such an important point.
00:19:16.580 And horseshoe bats. Yeah, oh.
00:19:19.580 And Pipistrelis abramus. I'm going to Google that for a second.
00:19:23.580 Pipistrelis abramus. That's also called a Japanese house bat.
00:19:32.580 Okay, I just Googled that.
00:19:33.580 Remember that word, horseshoe bat. Okay, I'm going to come back to that later.
00:19:37.580 I'll just tell you why now.
00:19:42.580 Horseshoe bats are not for sale in the Wuhan wet market.
00:19:47.580 And I'll give you my proof point for that later.
00:19:49.580 So horseshoe bats and Pipistrelis abramus, that's also called a Japanese bat.
00:19:53.580 Keep going.
00:19:55.580 If we keep our skin bare, we can easily get contact with the feces of bats, which contaminate everything.
00:19:59.580 So it's highly risky here.
00:20:01.580 It usually takes several days living in the bats' caves
00:20:05.580 to analyze the symbiotic relations between bat populations and viruses.
00:20:09.580 No cell phone signals.
00:20:11.580 No supplies.
00:20:13.580 I can feel the fear.
00:20:17.580 Fear of infections.
00:20:19.580 Fear of getting lost.
00:20:21.580 With this fear, I take every step extremely cautiously.
00:20:26.580 The more I feel the fear, the more I take cautions in doing the details.
00:20:32.580 Because when you find the viruses, you're also most easily exposed to the viruses.
00:20:39.580 Well, that was my commentary in the background.
00:20:41.580 Of course, the language was in Chinese, so I was describing what I saw and reading the captions.
00:20:47.580 Just incredible.
00:20:48.580 I mean, what are the odds that the virus would come from Wuhan, where the Wuhan Institute for Virology is located,
00:20:57.580 and there is no connection at all?
00:20:59.580 I mean, surely common sense or, you know, the process of deduction, one would start with thinking,
00:21:04.580 well, is there any correlation?
00:21:07.580 Especially since China, as you can see in that video, was bragging about their virus research.
00:21:13.580 Well, that topic has been considered a conspiracy theory for more than a year,
00:21:20.580 when suddenly all the authorities from Anthony Fauci to Facebook have said,
00:21:24.580 well, hang on, maybe we won't deplatform you as a conspiracy theorist for talking about it after all.
00:21:30.580 Joining us now to talk about this and how this is playing out in Canada's House of Commons
00:21:34.580 is our friend Spencer Fernando, proprietor of SpencerFernando.com,
00:21:39.580 and one of the few independent journalists left in Canada.
00:21:42.580 Spencer, great to see you. Sorry for that long introduction.
00:21:45.580 I mean, it might not be related to the Institute of Virology,
00:21:51.580 but that sure seems like an obvious place to start.
00:21:54.580 If you were inspector, you know, if you were a sleuth, if you were a police detective, Sherlock Holmes,
00:22:01.580 you'd probably start at the Institute of Virology. I'm just guessing.
00:22:05.580 Yeah, you know, one thing I've been kind of that's been in the back of my head through a lot of this is
00:22:10.580 it reminds me a bit of Chernobyl, right?
00:22:12.580 You know, you have a communist state that unleashes something that could be very devastating to the world
00:22:18.580 or possibly unleashes something.
00:22:19.580 And, you know, in Chernobyl, the Soviet Union, they weren't planning to tell anybody about it, right?
00:22:24.580 It was only when it became such an obvious problem.
00:22:26.580 And other countries were like, hey, what's all this radiation going on over there?
00:22:30.580 They had to admit what's going on, right?
00:22:33.580 So it's kind of like the default position for, you know, ruthless communist states is to just never admit any mistakes and just, you know, cover it up.
00:22:41.580 And you look at China's behavior.
00:22:43.580 It was hilariously defensive in, you know, after the virus emerged, right?
00:22:48.580 I mean, first they said, oh, it's not a threat at all.
00:22:50.580 And then they just announced anyone who even brought it up.
00:22:53.580 Oh, there's no possibilities from the lab.
00:22:55.580 Then they didn't let people in and then they destroyed a lot of evidence.
00:22:58.580 And so you think, OK, I mean, does this look like a country that's open and transparent and wants people to actually, you know, clear it?
00:23:05.580 You know, do they do they think they'll be cleared if there's a real investigation?
00:23:08.580 So, again, you know, the idea that for a year people were, you know, you know, banned and, as you say, deplatformed for bringing this up.
00:23:16.580 And then all of a sudden, oh, maybe we should actually look into it.
00:23:18.580 I mean, that might have been nice a year ago when there might have still been some evidence around.
00:23:22.580 Yeah. You know, I think it's like so many of the things.
00:23:26.580 If Donald Trump said it, then to prove you were a good liberal or at least not a crazy Trumpist, you had to oppose it.
00:23:34.580 I mean, Trump would talk about possible remedies, possible medicines, possible treatments.
00:23:39.580 And immediately, because Trump said it, you weren't allowed to re-say it.
00:23:43.580 And I think that's what happened with this. Now, here's the thing. Here's the Canadian angle.
00:23:48.580 And I find this deeply troubling. Canada has a very high security virus research lab called the National Microbiology Laboratory.
00:23:58.580 It's a level four virus security. Like it's a it's where you study Ebola.
00:24:03.580 Like there's not a lot of places like that.
00:24:05.580 Well, it's in Winnipeg and incredibly Chinese nationals, but not just Chinese nationals, people with the People's Liberation Army, like Chinese military researchers were allowed to work there to study these viruses in Canada.
00:24:26.580 With Canada's knowledge, permission, cooperation, they actually published papers with the PLA.
00:24:33.580 And this is not a rumor or a conspiracy theory. We know this. The Globe and Mail actually had a wonderful expose on it.
00:24:39.580 The RCMP in Cease has raided this facility, led to the ouster of some of these Chinese nationals.
00:24:45.580 And yet anyone who talks about it is called a racist or conspiracy theorist.
00:24:50.580 Spencer, can I show you a quick clip from the House of Commons where Candace Bergen asked about this lab?
00:24:56.580 I want to play it for our viewers, and I'd love your thoughts on it afterwards.
00:24:59.580 So stay right there. Hang on. Here's Candace Bergen.
00:25:02.580 The Honorable Member for Portage Lisker.
00:25:05.580 Well, the problem is, and the Prime Minister maybe does not realize this, is communist China cannot be trusted.
00:25:12.580 I know he admires their basic dictatorship. I know he liked to do fundraisers with them over the years.
00:25:18.580 I know he thought they were the first go-to for vaccines.
00:25:21.580 But at this point, we would hope that he would learn a lesson and put the safety, security and protection of Canadians above this fascination he has with the communist regime.
00:25:31.580 So again, will he commit to ending this research and this cooperation with a regime that not only doesn't have our interest in mind, but actually wants to hurt Canada?
00:25:43.580 The Honorable Prime Minister.
00:25:46.580 Mr. Speaker, yes, from the beginning of my career onwards, I have worked with many Chinese Canadians and indeed had fundraisers with them.
00:25:53.580 And the rise in anti-Asian racism we're seeing over the past number of months should be of concern to everyone.
00:25:58.580 And I would recommend that the members of the Conservative Party in their zeal to make personal attacks not start to push too far into intolerance towards Canadians of diverse origins.
00:26:09.580 We will continue to stand up to defend Canadians' interests, Canadians' security.
00:26:14.580 We will continue to make sure that we're doing everything we can to keep Canadians safe while participating in the global research community and stand up for tolerance and diversity.
00:26:27.580 You know, there's so many incredible things. I'm just jotting down some of the language.
00:26:31.580 Trudeau, and I'm sorry I have subjected you to so much Trudeau, Spencer.
00:26:36.580 I'll survive, I think.
00:26:38.580 Trudeau said, Canadians of diverse origins.
00:26:41.580 But that's the thing, they weren't Canadians. They were Chinese nationals. They weren't Canadians.
00:26:46.580 It wasn't an ethnic comment.
00:26:48.580 And he said the global research community, it's not the global research community, it's the Chinese military learning how to weaponize viruses.
00:26:56.580 The chutzpah there, Spencer, but he's getting away with it as usual, isn't he?
00:27:01.580 Yeah, you know, I think the one angle that hasn't been touched on too much is that, you know, you were talking about anti-Asian racism.
00:27:07.580 Well, Trudeau came closer to that than anybody in the House of Commons, right?
00:27:11.580 Because the Conservatives said, OK, we have communist China's military shouldn't have access to a facility, right?
00:27:17.580 What was the first thing Trudeau said afterwards? Oh, don't be racist against Asian Canadians.
00:27:21.580 Right.
00:27:22.580 So he's linking China's communist military to Canadian citizens who happen to be Asian, a link that most people wouldn't be making.
00:27:30.580 So it's almost like he wants to kind of stoke resentment so then he can say, oh, look, I'm fighting against resentment and I'm standing up for diversity.
00:27:37.580 So, again, this is the problem when you have someone who in some ways is fundamentally unserious leading a country, right?
00:27:44.580 It's not it's it's not like a student council where we'll just be nice to everybody, bring a bunch of different people on board.
00:27:49.580 We'll have a bunch of nice meetings. I mean, you're dealing with countries like China that are led by some ruthless people.
00:27:54.580 They have ruthless ideas and they're pretty they're willing to do pretty much anything to get their way.
00:27:58.580 So this whole idea that, oh, we'll just I'll just repeat, you know, a few, you know, woke buzzwords and everything will be fine.
00:28:03.580 I mean, that's not how it works.
00:28:05.580 You know, I think you made a very important point there.
00:28:08.580 Candace Bergen, I know her a little bit, is one of the most fair minded, gentle people.
00:28:12.580 I mean, I think she's tough also, but she would never express anything in a racist vein.
00:28:17.580 And she didn't. I mean, China is a country. It's it also there is a Chinese ethnicity or many ethnicities.
00:28:25.580 It was Trudeau who made the connection. And it reminds me when people compare things to Hitler.
00:28:31.580 And and I always say, don't do that, because you say if you're saying this guy is as bad as Hitler, then Hitler was no worse than this guy.
00:28:39.580 And you're actually normalizing Hitler. I mean, when people use language.
00:28:44.580 And so when Candace Bergen says, what about Chinese China's dictatorship spying on us?
00:28:50.580 If you're the one who says stop picking on Chinese Canadians, you're the one who's made the link.
00:28:56.580 You're the one who has started people thinking, oh, should I be worried about this ethnically Chinese person here?
00:29:03.580 I think you're so right. It was Trudeau that made the dual loyalties implication.
00:29:10.580 It was Trudeau who made the ethnic stereotype implication. It wasn't Candace Bergen. It was Trudeau.
00:29:18.580 Yeah. And, you know, one of the big problems is, you know, a lot of Asian Canadians, especially, you know, Chinese Canadians,
00:29:24.580 they're in a very tough situation because there is obviously a terrible rise in anti-Asian racism, which I think everyone should condemn and should oppose.
00:29:31.580 But they're also getting, you know, intimidation from China itself. Right. I mean, you know, people who have family back in China.
00:29:37.580 They say, oh, well, we don't really like that you have some, you know, say it's pro, you know, Uyghur activism or pro Hong Kong activism.
00:29:44.580 Yeah, we don't really like that. It would be a shame if something happened to your family members.
00:29:47.580 And they're getting almost no help from the Trudeau government.
00:29:50.580 So you have on one side people, you know, racist people who are treating them badly and then China treating them badly.
00:29:55.580 And then Trudeau basically just saying, yeah, we're not going to do anything to help you.
00:29:58.580 But we'll just, you know, we'll just accuse everybody of racism, even when they bring up legitimate questions.
00:30:03.580 You know, a lot of people, you know, here who are of Chinese descent, I mean, they left to get away from the Chinese Communist Party.
00:30:10.580 So there's still in many ways being subjected to it and they're getting no assistance from Trudeau.
00:30:14.580 So, yeah, it's pretty arrogant, you know, for him to to claim he's all of a sudden the defender of Asian Canadians when he's left a lot of Chinese Canadians completely out to dry.
00:30:23.580 Yeah. You know, the other people who are really pushing this line that asking about the Wuhan Institute of Virology is essentially racist.
00:30:34.580 It's the Chinese government. I mean, it's it's sort of creepy. Twitter is banned in China.
00:30:41.580 But Twitter allows Chinese propagandists by that. I mean, Paul, you know, the dictatorship, their state run media, their ambassadors around the world.
00:30:52.580 There are hundreds, maybe thousands of Chinese propagandists on Twitter, often with verified accounts that are given great credibility.
00:31:02.580 They're the other ones pushing this line that to ask about the pandemic's origin is racist.
00:31:08.580 I find it it's always a bad sign when the prime minister of Canada is saying word for word what the Chinese dictatorships diplomats are saying.
00:31:18.580 Like if if you are reading the same talking points as Beijing's spin doctors, maybe you should check your bearings again.
00:31:25.580 I don't know. I find it creepy. I don't know. Are you and I a minority or are most people nodding along and saying, yes, we shouldn't ask about this Wuhan connection.
00:31:36.580 It's racist to do so. Or are most people seeing through this? Are you worried he's getting away with it?
00:31:41.580 You know, I think one of the things we're seeing a lot in the world is, you know, people who are the public mind and the private.
00:31:48.580 Right. So I think, you know, there's a lot of fear out there.
00:31:52.580 People are obviously afraid of being accused of racism or not being woke enough or, you know, whatever is going on.
00:31:57.580 And so people will publicly go along with something. And then privately, you can be pretty sure they're saying, you know, this is this is crazy.
00:32:03.580 I don't believe any of this. But, you know, people are being scared into it. So that's what he's trying to do.
00:32:07.580 He's trying to, you know, I think, get the average person who certainly doesn't trust China and certainly is pretty angry about what happened.
00:32:13.580 He's trying to get them to feel like, oh, no, I don't want to be accused of racism if I say anything.
00:32:17.580 So it's a fear tactic and it'll work on some people.
00:32:20.580 We'll see how strong minded and strong willed the country is if it can push back against that.
00:32:25.580 So we'll see. But, you know, what's also concerning is in terms of, you know, Canada's national interests.
00:32:30.580 I mean, we've seen this mistake already over a year ago.
00:32:34.580 You know, it's the same thing, you know, when people were saying, well, this this whole thing in Wuhan looks pretty concerning.
00:32:38.580 You know, people getting sick and maybe we should stop flights from China.
00:32:42.580 And China said, no, no, that's that's bigoted and racist. You're discriminating against, you know, Chinese people.
00:32:47.580 And Patty Hajdu and Justin Trudeau and Theresa Tam, they said very similar things that, you know, border controls will cause harm.
00:32:54.580 This is about bigotry. This is unacceptable.
00:32:56.580 So they've already made the same mistake of trusting China before and using, you know, the rhetoric of any criticism is racist.
00:33:03.580 So the fact that they're doing it again, it's it's it's quite disturbing.
00:33:07.580 Yeah, it's incredible. You know, I guess none of us should be surprised because Trudeau's go to when he's feeling on the defensive is to accuse his opponents of, frankly,
00:33:16.580 the same things he does. He accuses other people of racism.
00:33:19.580 He's the guy who dresses up in blackface. He accuses other people of sexism.
00:33:23.580 He's the one who groped Rose Knight in Creston, B.C.
00:33:27.580 I think calling people racist is his go to place when he's feeling like he doesn't have a substantive answer.
00:33:35.580 I'm just worried he's going to get away with it.
00:33:37.580 Hey, for those who haven't read the story yet, Spencer has it on his website prominently.
00:33:43.580 The story is Trudeau's racism deflection on China is a strategy based on weakness and desperation.
00:33:50.580 And if you're not already signed up for Spencer's website and you get the email updates and supporting him, I encourage you to do so.
00:33:57.580 So he's one of the few independent voices left in Canada.
00:34:00.580 And we're always grateful to have you on the show.
00:34:02.580 Thanks for coming by today, Spencer.
00:34:04.580 Good to talk to you.
00:34:05.580 All right. There you have it, Spencer Fernando. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:34:07.580 Hey, welcome back on my show last night.
00:34:21.580 Bruce writes, Kyle Kemper is too smart for the Liberal Party's own good.
00:34:25.580 So they chose a useful idiot who could be the totally compliant puppet for the far left.
00:34:31.580 Thanks for sharing that video, Ezra.
00:34:32.580 Look, I don't agree with everything Kyle Kemper said, but I agree with a fair bit of it.
00:34:37.580 And I like the fact that he expressed it and that he's not so politically correct.
00:34:42.580 He's just following in the footsteps of his half brother.
00:34:45.580 I will admit that any grown man who makes this heart symbol or something and he was so practiced.
00:34:51.580 I just, you know, I find it hard to take that guy too seriously.
00:34:54.580 But I was glad to meet him and get to know him a little bit through YouTube, I mean.
00:35:00.580 David writes, Ezra, you might have been saying keep fighting for freedom for six years on The Rebel,
00:35:06.580 but you were saying it before that on The Source, and it's still one of the best taglines.
00:35:11.580 Yeah, I did. I started it at Sun News Network, so I guess it's about a decade now.
00:35:18.580 And that's the thing about freedom is I say keep fighting for freedom.
00:35:22.580 You always have to keep fighting for freedom, even if you are extremely free, because freedom decays.
00:35:29.580 It falls apart.
00:35:31.580 It's entropy, I think might be the word.
00:35:34.580 It's always under attack. It erodes.
00:35:36.580 It has to be shored up and shored up and shored up all the time.
00:35:39.580 You can't take your eye off the ball.
00:35:42.580 Things don't tend towards freedom.
00:35:45.580 That's actually not the natural state of humanity.
00:35:48.580 It's the ideal state. It's where we all want to be.
00:35:50.580 But if you look back over the course of time, it's the exception, not the rule.
00:35:54.580 I want us to stay in the freedom times.
00:35:57.580 I want us to continue to live in this miraculous era,
00:36:01.580 one of the few ones where people have a chance at freedom.
00:36:05.580 So we've got to fight for it.
00:36:07.580 Well, that's our story for today.
00:36:09.580 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rob World Headquarters,
00:36:13.580 and you at home, keep fighting for freedom.
00:36:16.580 Good night.
00:36:31.580 Thanks.