Interpol called me to ask for help solving a crime, and I'm here to give them the details. It's a good thing I'm like a James Bond type of guy, because they asked me to help solve a crime.
00:02:15.420I received a phone call from the Toronto Police Service. They said they were calling me on
00:02:20.060behalf of Interpol. Do you know what Interpol is? It's basically police forces from almost
00:02:26.240200 countries sharing information. They don't have their own Interpol police force. It's not
00:02:30.980really like a United Nations peacekeepers for police or anything gross like that. It's just
00:02:36.300how cops in one part of the world deal with cops in another part of the world if crimes are
00:02:40.640international. I think it generally makes sense. Look at this graphic from their website.
00:02:46.300Counterterrorism, organized crime, cybercrime, those are absolutely the kinds of things that
00:02:51.960you'd want international police cooperation on. Same thing with child trafficking, which is another
00:02:57.880one of their focuses. So when I took the phone call and they said Interpol wanted my help,
00:03:02.520I at least heard them out. I mean, I'm like James Bond in my own way. I get a lot of calls for help
00:03:07.420like that. I'm kidding around. They were calling about a riot in the United Kingdom this spring.
00:03:14.280It was a riot at a Tommy Robinson political campaign stop in the town of Oldham. Let me state the
00:03:19.700obvious. It wasn't Tommy or his supporters who were rioting. They were the targets, the victims of
00:03:25.760the riot. Now that's a headline trick the media party does all the time. They did it to Maxime
00:03:30.260Bernier the other day in Canada too. There were a bunch of Antifa thugs screaming and shouting and
00:03:37.600blocking peaceful citizens in Hamilton the other day. And look at this headline. Violent clashes break
00:03:45.440out at a Maxime Bernier event as if it's the measles or something that just broke out. No,
00:03:52.780it had nothing to do with Maxime Bernier and didn't just break out. Left-wing Antifa thugs
00:03:58.620attacked peaceful Bernier meeting goers. The CBCs are full of liars. Anyways, it's the same that in
00:04:04.880the UK, Tommy Robinson riot. No, it was riots against Tommy. It was much worse than that Bernier thing
00:04:10.460in Oldham, a town near Manchester in the north of England. As you might recall, we had sent our
00:04:16.560reporter Jessica S there to cover Tommy Robinson's political campaign. And I think back then Jessica
00:04:22.640was actually still a student journalist and we had thrown her right into the deep end to sink or swim.
00:04:28.320And I think she swam pretty well. I should say we crowdfunded the cost of her security guard.
00:04:32.920And I'm glad we did because she was absolutely in some danger as everyone was. And in fact,
00:04:38.280she was hit, not grievously, but she was hit by something thrown by rioters. Okay, here's a bit
00:04:43.900of her footage from her coverage that day. I'm Jessica Smetajewski with The Rebel. Here in the UK,
00:04:51.300Tommy Robinson's campaign has moved to Olden, which is a heavily Muslim populated area. The protesters
00:04:59.500are behind us. Police did have to push them back. They started with throwing eggs and actually going
00:05:05.280into the bins and going into the trash bins, picking up bottles and throwing it to the sides.
00:05:12.280The protesters came, probably around a hundred of them. They started on one side. Police did block them. And they actually came around the street to another corner, all running towards the
00:05:42.260rally, throwing eggs, throwing bottles that they're finding in bins, lying around in front of the houses. I even saw them throw some bricks at Tommy Robinson's crowd.
00:05:57.260Yeah, that's the United Kingdom these days, in case you're wondering. I thought that was pretty good coverage by Jessica. And I thought she kept her calm pretty well. I mean,
00:06:05.260here's a young student from calm, peaceful Canada being dumped in the middle of a race riot where a group that called itself the Muslim Defense League wore face masks and threw bottles and bricks at peaceful British men, women and children.
00:06:19.260Oh, did I not mention this part? Police didn't make a single arrest that day. Not one. In fact, police did the opposite. I know what you're about to hear is hard to believe. But you see,
00:06:29.940most of those rioters that day didn't come from Oldham. They came from the big city, from Manchester and other places. They didn't actually know their way around Oldham. They'd never been there before. It's a bit of a walk from the train station into Oldham
00:06:41.940itself. And then they had to find where's Tommy Robinson's campaign event in this town. So they had no clue where they were going. Hey,
00:06:48.940hey, no worries. The police literally escorted the rioters to the right place. Let me say that again. Police met the rioters when they arrived at the train station, some of whom were already wearing face masks. And the police showed them the way. They literally accompanied them to get them straight to Tommy Robinson and the men, women and children who were gathered to hear him give a political speech. He was running for the European Parliament. Here's a bit of
00:07:18.920a video and an explanation that Tommy himself put together. Look at this.
00:07:22.920On Saturday, I visited a working class estate in Oldham. Just like for the last three weeks, I've traveled the Northwest visiting different working class estates. Each one of my events have been peaceful family events where people have brought their children. So an opportunity for me to speak to my future constituents. The difference for Oldham was for the past week, a Muslim organization on Facebook has literally been inciting attacks against me and organizing and planning attacks against me in Oldham.
00:07:47.920Telling people to come and throw milkshakes at me. But not just milkshakes, anything they want.
00:07:52.920Yeah, we've got about 300 people with us, bro. Let's go to the front line with my boys. The Halifax Pakistanis repping in Oldham.
00:07:58.920And they've come from Halifax, Halifax Pakistanis. Halifax isn't even in the Northwest. This is premeditated. Gangs of young men, young Muslim men, armed and wearing balaclavas, intent on attacking a political campaign. Not just intent on attacking it, but aided and abetted and supported and directed there by the local police.
00:08:19.920うm, they've been pregnant, you've killed all of mine.
00:14:50.880Because with modern facial recognition software, simply panning a video camera at a crowd can immediately create a police database with names and detailed identification of every person.
00:15:03.880It will immediately associate your face with your name, your phone number, your home address.
00:15:09.880You can compare it against any other police database.
00:15:38.880They know every face and every name of the peaceful men and women and children who came to listen to Tommy Robinson give an election speech in Oldham.
00:15:50.880But they didn't bother to get the name or the face of any rioter.
00:16:00.880There are already twenty three thousand jihadists in the United Kingdom.
00:16:05.880Three thousand of whom are a serious enough threat, imminent enough threat that they're actually under twenty four hour surveillance by the police.
00:17:01.880Dear passengers, people who travel without tickets or behave disorderly or smoking in public areas will be punished according to regulations.
00:17:12.880And the behavior will be recorded in the individual credit information system.
00:17:17.880To avoid any negative record of personal credit, please follow the relevant regulations and help with the orders on the train and at the station.
00:18:07.880So, yeah, I sent in the footage of the rioters.
00:18:10.880I didn't send in footage of any Tommy's friends.
00:18:13.880The Manchester police already have all of those for their secret police files.
00:18:18.880I sent in the footage of the protesters because the Manchester police couldn't be bothered at the time.
00:18:24.880Hey, here's an excerpt of what I wrote to the Toronto cop who had passed on the Interpol request to me.
00:18:31.880I got no beef with him and I think his request was legitimate.
00:18:35.880I just think it's a disgrace that the Manchester police assisted the rioters and thought that the riot victims were the enemies to be databased.
00:18:44.880I won't give you the name of the Toronto cop or show you most of my letter, but I did add a few paragraphs of commentary.
00:18:52.880Here's the Dropbox links with our footage that shows the riot.
00:18:57.880I can't help but notice from that footage that the Greater Manchester police had their own camera unit at the riot,
00:19:03.880but they didn't film the violent rioters.
00:19:05.880They filmed the riot victims instead because they were politically sympathetic to Tommy Robinson.
00:19:09.880I guess it was more important to get a list of every peaceful Tommy Robinson supporter in the UK than to document a riot from the self-styled Muslim Defence League.
00:19:16.880I don't know how much you've read about this riot, but the Manchester police literally led the rioters directly to the victims.
00:19:22.880The rioters had come in from out of town and didn't know where to go in Oldham.
00:19:26.880The police escorted them, even the ones wearing masks.
00:19:28.880And I have a YouTube link to show the Toronto cop.
00:19:31.880You can see that some of that footage came from Tommy Robinson himself.
00:19:35.880Maybe the Manchester police can ask him for help or maybe they are actually after footage that would incriminate him.
00:20:18.880Well, the election is getting more exciting, at least for me, because we were able to have a little victory for freedom of the press
00:20:27.880and get access to the leaders debate where our own reporter, Kian Bexty, asked six questions of three different leaders, including the Prime Minister himself.
00:20:40.880Our friend, Andrew Lawton, also got two questions in the Prime Minister.
00:20:44.880And I mentioned him because he, too, needed a court injunction to break down the barriers that had been put up by the Debates Commission.
00:20:53.880Let me just refresh your memory of the question that Kian Bexty asked of Justin Trudeau.
00:21:00.880And this was at the debate on Monday night.
00:21:04.880Since your multiple use of blackface became an international scandal, Canada's international reputation has been irreparably harmed.
00:21:13.880Have you reached out to any African leaders or any leaders from the Middle East to apologize for your conduct?
00:21:19.880Canada will continue to engage in a positive, constructive way around the world, standing up for human rights, engaging with leaders right around the world.
00:21:28.880Because we know that promoting our values and prosperity for everyone around the world is good for Canadians and creates better opportunities for everyone.
00:21:38.880So that didn't answer the question at all.
00:21:40.880Have you spoken to any African leaders or leaders from the Middle East to apologize for your personal conduct?
00:21:46.880I have continued to engage with leaders around the world in a responsible way during an election campaign.
00:21:52.880My focus is connecting with Canadians, as I was able to tonight.
00:21:55.880And I was very pleased to see so many of the questions turned to the environment.
00:21:59.880In all sections, there was a clear contrast between those on stage who don't think we should be fighting climate change and those of us who do.
00:22:08.880And again, we are the only party with a clear plan to fight climate change.
00:22:12.880Well, that was a good one. Trudeau did not answer.
00:22:15.880Just very quickly, let me show you the question asked by our friend Andrew Lawton that went directly to Freedom of the Press.
00:22:24.880Good evening, Prime Minister. Andrew Lawton from True North.
00:22:27.880This afternoon, a federal court judge ruled that I had a right to be here to cover this debate as a journalist, despite opposition from your Attorney General.
00:22:35.880This comes after two weeks of me being kicked out of or not allowed into your campaign rallies.
00:22:40.880The Conservatives have criticized you for being not as advertised.
00:22:44.880You've advertised yourself as a champion of a press freedom.
00:22:47.880Will you take a stand right now, sir, as the leader of the Liberal Party and allow me to cover your campaign like every other journalist?
00:22:52.880We are a party and we are a country that respects journalistic rights and respects the freedom of the press.
00:23:05.880Then what time is your plane leaving tomorrow, sir?
00:23:07.880So that's what happened on Monday night.
00:23:10.880But I have to say, we didn't think those journalists would make it in at all because it was an uphill legal battle to convince the federal court to give us an emergency injunction.
00:23:22.880Well, speaking of injunctions and things like that and politics and debates, may I introduce to you my friend Manny Montenegrino, who has a lot to say.
00:24:04.880Obviously, a lot of credit goes to the lawyers who did a really good job.
00:24:07.880And of course, our donors, because we had to come up with the dough to pay a retainer to the firm very quickly.
00:24:13.880Manny, just let me quickly say, and then I'll turn things back to you.
00:24:16.880When I hired our lawyers, they warned me that it was going to be an uphill battle because getting an emergency injunction like that, they told me, is difficult.
00:24:53.880And your lawyer was probably correct by saying it's almost impossible to win when the natural allies are not there in court.
00:25:00.880And as I understand it, Ezra, you had the attorney general, who is supposed to be on the sideline and not have any dog in the race, actually giving argument against freedom of speech and freedom of press.
00:25:23.880Well, Manny, we are not done with the Debates Commission because this was just an emergency injunction to get us in.
00:25:29.880But we still have a larger, more methodical, less rushed judicial review of their treatment of us that I want to continue to proceed.
00:25:39.880So in some ways, it's moot because we're in the debates.
00:25:44.880But I think we still ought to have a court review the shenanigans because I want to expose what I sense in my bones is collusion between the supposedly independent commission and the Trudeau government.
00:25:58.880Yeah. And you know what, Ezra, when your case was finally decided, it gave me a support of what I have been feeling about the Debates Commission itself.
00:26:12.880And so let me go through it. First of all, you know, Ezra, we start right from the beginning.
00:26:19.400Why is Justin Trudeau creating a Debates Commission? And can we trust him on anything?
00:26:26.200So I start there. And clearly, he has no credibility.
00:26:30.520He's been found to be not credible by a judge, the ethics commissioner, basically a liar when he said the Aga Khan was his friend in the Debates Commission.
00:26:38.940Sorry, the ethics commissioner said, no, no, no, no, no. I don't accept that.
00:26:43.560That's pretty damning. We start there. Then we add to that.
00:26:47.820What has happened to the Canadian institutions while Justin Trudeau has been prime minister?
00:26:53.460Well, we've seen the biggest, the most non-biased institution is the Privy Council of Canada.
00:27:03.340But Michael Wernick quit because he felt that he could no longer do his duties because there's an apprehension of bias.
00:27:12.000Then we see we've seen bias in the media.
00:27:14.780I don't need to go into that. The six hundred dollar million and offering and so on.
00:27:19.840We've seen bias by this government and with and corruption with respect to the charging of Admiral Norman.
00:27:29.100We've seen the RCMP stymied. So when I look at when I start my analysis of what about this debate commission, I start.
00:27:40.160Well, there's a good chance I'm going to see either bias or I'm going to see an apprehension of bias because every institution in Canada.
00:27:48.000I mean, even the judiciary was was seen to be thrown under the bus.
00:27:52.680The Manitoba, Manitoba judge that the PMO decided to to attack.
00:27:57.640So I let me add in the independent senators to the so-called independent senators.
00:28:01.380Oh, right. Because they I saw a study, believe it or not, it was published in the CBC, which shocked me, that showed these so-called independent senators actually vote more in lockstep with Trudeau than even partisan liberal senators do, which is hard to believe.
00:28:19.420No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's so many. There's so many.
00:28:22.680So I start with the premise. I start and say there's a good chance the debates commissioner starts in the soup of bias or in the apprehension of bias.
00:28:33.220And then we go on. The very first thing and the Canadian public was right to comment on how is it possible that there are five moderators that are all female when we are trying to strive for gender parity?
00:28:49.980So that was one of the first things that brought to my attention, say, well, that looks odd.
00:28:54.820That doesn't seem right for an unbiased and especially a debates commissioner that's seeking no apprehension of bias right off the gun.
00:29:03.240And we have what appears to be at least a concern by the Canadian public that was never addressed.
00:29:08.760I mean, I think of there are incredible I mean, the person who is who who is found many, many broke many stories, a male that hasn't been invited.
00:29:52.500Yeah. Why? What's the purpose of that?
00:29:54.880Clearly, we know that the debate could have been at nine o'clock eastern time and everyone would have at least been able to see it in Canada.
00:30:02.560And I found that to add to my pattern of concern.
00:31:11.300And he as he as the debates commissioner did in your case, he downloaded his responsibility to a pollster to say, well, what's a possibility?
00:31:54.120And then I looked at your case very carefully.
00:31:57.720And not only was it wrong in law, not only was it wrong in the principles of freedom of the press, but the way they handled it and the way they downloaded it.
00:32:24.400And they did that because they strategically knew that if you put it on Friday, Ezra will not be in court.
00:32:31.320But they don't know Ezra, unfortunately.
00:32:33.600So now, Ezra, a little bit, I'm not going to give you some legal advice here, but when there's this type of egregious behavior by a litigant, courts not only order costs, but they should be ordering punitive or soliciting their own client costs.
00:32:51.020When I practice law, it's very hard to get that.
00:32:54.860But when you put a person to the onus on Friday for a hearing that has to be heard by Monday and it was done intentionally, you should be able to get punitive costs for that egregious behavior.
00:33:08.280So when I look at these four or five patterns, I sit there and say, and it's clear.
00:33:13.320And in your case, they downloaded, I looked at Justice Zinn's questions and how he basically said, well, did you make the decision yourself to make the decision?
00:33:22.660Now we kind of let somebody else do it.
00:34:25.160And especially when I read your case and I didn't read the whole decision, Ezra, but clearly the debates commissioner falls into that group.
00:34:32.100And what that has done is, I mean, there's a lot of things that are important in Canada.
00:34:37.580And certainly elections are extremely important.
00:34:40.380And the right of the media to be there is extremely important.
00:34:44.660But to have at least the apprehension of bias or evidence of liberal bias by the debates commissioner, I think there's a strong case.
00:34:58.020And I believe me, as time will go on, Ezra, we'll see more as you appeal this and as you'll get dig into the facts.
00:35:04.940It clearly was just an arm of the PMO, pretty much like the trial of Admiral Norman was an arm of the PMO.
00:35:13.520So there's a whole pattern of it, Ezra.
00:35:15.520And, you know, I wish I was around arguing your case because you are going to succeed.
00:35:22.560And I would, Ezra, you look at all the pattern that Canadians, I think you have to not only stand up for yourself and every journalist who wasn't there for you,
00:35:32.260but you have to stand up in your argument for every independent institution in Canada that's seen itself corrupted by this government.
00:35:42.500You have to be the voice as well for that.
00:35:44.800Sorry for putting so much burden on you, but we need somebody, Ezra.
00:35:48.900You know, Manny, I remember, and it was a dozen years ago, more even, when the Human Rights Commission came for me for publishing the Danish cartoons of Mohammed.
00:36:00.180And I remember saying to my friends, and that was the start of a whole bunch of things in my life I didn't even know were going to come.
00:36:07.520That put me on a path I didn't even know.
00:36:09.880But I remember saying to my colleagues and friends, I said, I don't like being prosecuted, but in some ways I'm very lucky to be the one.
00:36:19.380Because almost anyone else would say, this is done, just settle it, or this isn't worth it.
00:36:25.100And so, although it was in some ways very punishing, how lucky it was that it was me, rather than someone who said, oh, just throw 10 grand at it and make it go away.
00:36:49.820But they brought the fight to us, and I say again, in some strange way, I'm not going to call it that luck, but sometimes, Manny, I feel like a strangely shaped puzzle piece.
00:37:02.120And every once in a while, maybe once every 10 years, I fit perfectly into a puzzle.
00:37:07.380And I think it was that way with the Danish cartoons of Mohammed.
00:37:09.980And it may be here, because this bigger judicial inquiry, judicial review of the Debate Commission, I think it will expose a lot of things.
00:37:20.380It'll expose internal communications, emails, memos, maybe even notes from phone calls that would have otherwise been hidden.
00:37:28.080And I think if we can expose how the Trudeau government works and how they try to interfere with the media and debates, I think that's very useful to the country to see.
00:37:40.100I feel like I have a sense of mission here, Manny, even though I know it's going to cost us more than $100,000 to see this thing through.
00:37:47.080Ezra, I'm going to tell you something very simply.
00:37:50.020If I was legal counsel for the government, knowing what Justin Trudeau has done, and I say corrupted every institution, and you will find those emails.
00:38:03.100You will find the connection and the direction by the government to the independent debates commissioner.
00:38:09.980If I were them, I would be doing the very same thing as they did with the Admiral Norman case.
00:38:15.720I'd be sending you a huge offer and getting you to sign an NDA and getting you out of my life because you are going to do more harm to what the government has done to Canadians and destroying what we cherish the most, and that is our precious institutions.
00:38:31.440I mean, to see the clerk of the Privy Council, to see our military, to see the attorney general, and Ezra, nothing bothers me more than seeing the attorney general and the public prosecutor's office directed by the PMO.
00:38:46.860Ezra, you know, and I'm going to tell you this.
00:38:50.460Even if they offer you $10.5 million, don't sign the NDA.
00:38:53.720Well, many, if they were going to offer me money and a bribe, I'm sure they would have done it by now.
00:39:49.940But if I have the ability to expose the wrongdoings of this government, I feel like I have an obligation to see it through.
00:39:57.200Like I say, it's one of those once every 10-year moments where this strangely shaped puzzle piece called Ezra Levant maybe fits the occasion.
00:40:08.080I mean, you know, of course, when we saw what you did 10 years ago with the Human Rights Commission, maybe you are the person.
00:40:15.080Because I sit, I'm retired, and I see, you know, Canada is great not because necessarily of its government, but because of its institutions.
00:40:25.660I've seen almost every institution corrupted.
00:40:29.860You know, there are reports in Environment Canada has changed certain data.
00:44:42.040That's a good idea to try and get these media organizations to join us.
00:44:45.960Late they come, but that's better late than never.
00:44:48.900Manny, you've given me so much to think about.
00:44:51.160You've made me think about this case as more important than just the momentary barrier we were trying to get through.
00:44:56.960This is a larger thing that goes to the rule of law, independence of institutions, and a bit of an institutional rot that I think Trudeau has set in.
00:45:06.120So I thank you for this, and you've got my head buzzing with ideas now, and we're going to go do it, Manny.
00:45:15.180And I tell you, you know, even the people that don't want this to happen are there in your corner, and I think it'll be wonderful for Canada.
00:45:25.920Well, thank you, and I accept your charge.
00:45:29.440I accept your challenge, and God help us all.
00:45:35.860Manny Montenegrino, a great friend and advisor and commentator, former senior lawyer, former prime minister's lawyer, and always a great political conversation.
00:45:47.120I will take to heart his message to me today.