Jonathan Yaniv is a transgender activist from British Columbia, Canada who has spent months dragging vulnerable, often immigrant esthetician women in front of the Human Rights Tribunal because they objected to waxing their genitals for a variety of reasons, ranging from religious safety and skill set objections to a man who claimed to be a woman. Jonathan Yaniv has assaulted two of my colleagues for trying to do their jobs, and recently pled guilty to weapons charges for brandishing a taser on a live stream with YouTuber Blair White. But the Yaniv freak show, well, it never subsides.
00:00:00.060Hello Rebels, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're listening to a free audio-only recording of my Wednesday night show, The Gunn Show.
00:00:06.900Tonight my guest is Carrie Simpson from CultureGuard and she's telling us the long and convoluted and kind of frightening story of how she ended up in Jonathan Yaniv's orbit
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00:01:29.460There's another vulnerable victim of Jonathan Yaniv you may never have heard of.
00:01:49.880I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:01:59.460By now, most of the world has probably heard of vexatious British Columbian transgender activist Jonathan Yaniv.
00:02:17.440He spent months dragging vulnerable, often immigrant esthetician women in front of the Human Rights Tribunal
00:02:23.700because these young women objected to waxing his male genitals for a number of reasons,
00:02:30.500ranging from religious safety and skill set objections.
00:02:35.360And from the beginning, Rebel News has been covering the Jonathan Yaniv sideshow.
00:02:41.160Yaniv has assaulted two of my colleagues for trying to do their jobs.
00:02:45.300And Yaniv recently pled guilty to weapons charges for brandishing a taser on a live stream with YouTuber Blair White.
00:02:53.720But the Yaniv freak show, well, it never subsides.
00:02:57.980Today I want to introduce you to Carrie Simpson from CultureGuard,
00:03:02.880who has been helping somebody else who was victimized by Jonathan Yaniv.
00:03:07.480And now Carrie is the target of Yaniv's vitriol.
00:03:12.360Here's the interview we recorded yesterday afternoon when Carrie tells us this full, unbelievable, crazy story.
00:03:20.580Joining me now from her office in British Columbia is Carrie Simpson.
00:03:40.260She's the president of CultureGuard, and we are going to talk about something completely unrelated to the coronavirus.
00:03:45.600However, it is still a plague upon our society.
00:03:48.780Yes, I'm talking about Jonathan Yaniv.
00:03:51.440Hi, Carrie. Thank you so much for joining me.
00:03:53.460It's been a couple of weeks since I've seen you.
00:03:54.960I ran into you at the courthouse in Surrey.
00:03:57.940Why don't you tell us first a little bit about who and what CultureGuard is and what you do?
00:04:04.260Sheila, CultureGuard, regrettably, is an organization that's much needed now here in Canada.
00:04:09.720And we find ourselves now becoming a bit of an international organization in that we work closely with a lot of American groups, the U.K., Australia.
00:04:19.100But basically what we do is monitor the relationship between the state and the family, the state and our rights as far as those pillars of what we believe our democracy are.
00:04:30.520You know, freedom of expression slash speech, the right to have faith, parental rights, because we see the growing encroachment of the state taking over children.
00:04:41.420So those issues keep us very, very busy in all these countries.
00:04:45.980Now, I'm going to address some of the criticisms of CultureGuard really quickly.
00:04:51.340You are often accused as being anti-LGBTQ, but in my assessment, you are more about the autonomy of parents and parents' rights.
00:05:03.200And in fact, you frequently work quite closely with a trans individual.
00:05:07.940Well, my public statement for the 25-odd years that I've been doing this is I will defend anybody's rights to freely express themselves.
00:05:18.700But when those rights start trespassing on my rights, my rights to parent, my rights to instill values and morals into my children, my right to protect my granddaughter from men changing in recreation bathrooms of the local rec facilities, that's when I stand up.
00:05:37.780And of course, that in this day and age is, you know, not acceptable to what I call the squawk box minority, you know, or the horde, as they now are becoming.
00:05:49.720So I think what we've seen now is enough people standing up and speaking back.
00:05:55.880I will not adopt somebody's delusion that a man can be a woman.
00:06:00.020I will not go by their pronouns and all the other nonsense, not for just my sake, but for their sake.
00:06:06.460I don't believe engaging in somebody's mental health issue is particularly helpful to them.
00:06:12.220So as a result of that, and you know, the funny thing is, is that coming up just within the next few days is going to be a court hearing in New Westminster on the very fact because a church lost its ability to hold a big youth event because Carrie Simpson was speaking at it.
00:06:31.360And the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom took the case on behalf of the pastors there.
00:06:38.720It's not often that you see Christian churches standing up and fighting back, but we're seeing more of that now.
00:06:45.140But they actually hired researchers to go and pour through everything I've ever said and done that's now on the Internet.
00:06:51.140Those poor people, you know, to find out anything that would remotely resemble something that could be, you know, forget hate, even mean spirited.
00:07:14.120So I think we're seeing more courage now coming from people within the LGBT community speaking out and going, you know, this is insane now, especially when you start messing with the kids.
00:07:26.200Sheila, that seems to be for any politician, that's political suicide for common civil Canadians of all stripes.
00:07:37.420That's the barrier that you don't dare cross.
00:07:42.940It's actually a very good thing that's going on here.
00:07:44.860Yeah, I think the further the left moves left, they actually leave behind a lot of their allies.
00:07:52.720For example, Jen Smith is a huge transgender individual, huge advocate for parents' rights and stopping the sexualization of children and the early introduction of gender theory to little kids like five years old.
00:08:07.660Thank goodness that Jen Smith is out there sounding the alarm bells.
00:08:11.800He's doing a tremendous job, especially for vulnerable youth, as you know, and maybe some of your viewers know as well.
00:08:20.980You know, he is a product of the foster system.
00:08:23.780And that brings a lot of hurt, but a lot of insight into how far government will go in its willingness to abuse vulnerable children.
00:08:34.800And certainly he is a strong voice on that front and a much needed voice.
00:08:39.180Now, let's talk about why you're really on the show today.
00:08:43.960First off, I wanted to introduce people to you.
00:08:45.900And secondarily, we have a person in common who dislikes both of us immensely.
00:08:56.360You're sort of tangled up in the Jonathan Yaniv orbit.
00:09:01.280Tell us first how you got involved in the spider web of Jonathan Yaniv.
00:09:09.800And I guess after that, we'll get into now you're getting dragged into legal proceedings, whereas you were sort of a helper of one of Jonathan Yaniv's victims.
00:09:20.160Now you're getting sucked into the legal system because of him.
00:09:24.600Well, and I'm hoping that we can turn that into a positive, Sheila.
00:09:30.420Yes, I've appreciated our every couple of week encounters at the court.
00:09:37.800Never boring where Yaniv is involved, but also tragic because, you know, the amount of resources of taxpayers that are being eaten up to accommodate and facilitate and entertain, I think, to some degree.
00:09:57.400So my first involvement came back, unbeknownst to most people, when one of the victims of the Human Rights Tribunal, an esthetician who had been targeted by Yaniv, came and found herself the target of one of his first human rights campaigns.
00:10:19.020And I sat across and listened to this girl and her story, and I was horrified.
00:10:26.440I mean, you know, here's a mom with a child and this bully taking her to the Human Rights Tribunal.
00:10:32.220Now, I'm no stranger to Human Rights Tribunals.
00:10:34.800I've been hauled up by sex activists before for daring to promote parental rights within the public education system.
00:10:43.220And, you know, when they first targeted me, they said, oh, you know, everybody went, oh, Carrie, you have to mediate.
00:10:48.860You know, the Human Rights Tribunals are left-wing, blah, blah, blah.
00:10:56.460Well, for whatever reason, that got the eight to nine complainants very concerned.
00:11:00.160And these are sex activist teachers within the public education system and a lawyer, a very infamous activist by the name of Barbara Finley.
00:11:09.200And in that case, once I said, no, we're going to tribunal, apparently they got a bit worried.
00:11:48.860And they were very scared to come forward because some of them were working jobs that weren't particularly licensed for, those kinds of things.
00:11:57.600So he had them really in a vulnerable spot.
00:12:00.420So I did attend only one day of the BC Human Rights Tribunal hearings involving the estheticians.
00:12:09.280And you couldn't sell a better ticket to any entertainment going on.
00:12:17.040Did you learn too much about somebody's genitals?
00:12:19.480Because I was sort of following along online and I was learning things that I wish I never learned.
00:12:24.980And, you know, regrettably, with this, with the whole SOGI agenda, one has had to learn more about genitals and what you can do and do about them.
00:12:40.080But yes, as far as one particular individual, yes, way too much information.
00:12:45.080And imagined information as well, because not all of it, I don't think, was medically factual there.
00:12:55.900But I did get a really good opportunity to watch one of the lawyers for the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom, JCCF, by the name of Jay Cameron.
00:13:06.940And I applaud him, not only for his self-discipline, but anyone that can maintain the state of professionalism, as you have had to do and as Kenan has tried to do, you know, where this individual is involved is nothing short of award winning.
00:13:28.880I think we need to have a new award show that the survivors of Yaniv and those that have had to participate can, in fact, be recognized publicly.
00:13:44.660And, of course, we had, you know, we were asked to help, you know, talk to the other victims in the esthetician case and those kinds of things.
00:13:51.560So CultureGuard does a lot of behind-the-scenes work legally.
00:13:56.980Next, because, you know, who needs to be involved in any more insanity in Canada than, you know, deliberately getting involved in anything Yaniv.
00:14:09.620So we really didn't do too much except to just sort of monitor what was going on.
00:14:14.900And, you know, there's enough other craziness in Canada right now that, you know, we're occupied fully on just maintaining some attempt to keep logic involved in government decisions and administrative decisions.
00:14:33.060But so next, I started receiving calls for help for this Donald Smith.
00:14:40.020Now, Donald is an individual that I know.
00:14:43.020Donald is an intellectually vulnerable man.
00:14:54.760He can be annoying, can be provocative.
00:14:59.880So Donald Smith is a product of the foster system and has also, you know, some other challenges, Asperger's, autism.
00:15:08.840So emotionally and intellectually vulnerable.
00:15:12.200Yet he's brilliant when it comes to technology.
00:15:15.240It's the most fascinating thing to watch.
00:15:17.620This guy who is, his brain just fires on all cylinders.
00:15:24.140So Donald's claim to fame, though, came when he took his video reporting company to the human rights tribunals involving Yaniv and the estheticians.
00:15:35.580And he was following another independent reporting company.
00:15:41.340And they were trying to get an interview with Jonathan Yaniv.
00:15:44.780Once Jonathan learned who they were, he just headed off.
00:15:48.220This was back when he was still on his scooter and tried desperately to get into the building, didn't want to talk to them.
00:15:58.480And Donald very calmly followed behind, asking questions about why he goes on online chats with and talks sexually with minor children.
00:16:10.000And he didn't want to have any of that.
00:16:11.740So as they got closer to the elevator, Yaniv became very, very violent and threatening.
00:16:18.500And Donald captured on his recording video, Yaniv threatening to pepper spray them, pulling the fire alarm, engaging in all kinds of annex, threatening them.
00:16:31.820And, you know, suddenly his ability to be mobile was very obvious by standing up.
00:16:58.120And put these videos out very publicly.
00:17:02.800So Yaniv got, that's when Donald Smith got in the crosshairs of Jonathan Yaniv.
00:17:09.480And, of course, the more Yaniv sought attention online, the more Donald reported on him.
00:17:16.300So there are a number of videos that Donald has generated reporting on the conduct of Yaniv, including Yaniv in a swimming pool in Harrison Hot Springs, you know, talking to his fans.
00:17:30.620I mean, it's this creepy, horrible stuff.
00:17:33.620And, of course, Donald was more than happy to report on this individual who is well known for grooming young girls.
00:17:44.740That's no secret at this point, taking pictures of himself in girls' washrooms.
00:19:29.420Now, Donald did phone him once to try to get an interview following up the incident at the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal, which is what a good reporter would do.
00:19:41.020And he happened to be live streaming at the time.
00:19:44.640So we hear Yaniv threatening Donald to kill him.
00:19:51.500And, I mean, it is terrifying, the threats that were coming across the live stream.
00:19:59.120And, of course, Donald being Donald reacts.
00:20:02.040You know, he says, well, you're threatening me online, you know?
00:20:05.360So, and to Donald's credit, although he gets quite excited at those kinds of things due to his challenges, he maintained, you know, he didn't threaten back at this point these kinds of things.
00:20:19.480So over the course of the next few months, Donald tries to get help from the police, reporting the death threats, those kinds of things, and gets no response.
00:21:18.820There's a special liaison officer at most of these detachments that service the LGBTQ.
00:21:25.620When you look at what's been transpiring in our RCMP policies over the last few years, it gets very concerning, because it's almost like special privilege, special attention, special treatment.
00:21:39.200And I do believe that this has contributed greatly to the situation that Donald found himself in with the RCMP, with the VPD.
00:21:50.060So while there's great sympathy, you know, nobody wants to step on the tones of a trans activist, because God forbid you're going to be hauled up before the Human Rights Commission, right?
00:22:01.060So Yaniv continues on with the torments of Donald.
00:22:08.200At one point, somebody orchestrated a SWAT on Yaniv's condo, and police officers arrived at that.
00:23:55.900And leading up to this, there's quite a few exchanges online where Donald says he's going to be attending this.
00:24:04.420And by now, in December 3rd, Donald knows that the police aren't going to do anything to protect him.
00:24:10.420He's gone months of trying to get their attention, begging them to help.
00:24:15.300And he live streams that he's going to be attending this.
00:24:18.760Well, Yaniv provides the video to the police saying that Donald is threatening him, threatening him.
00:24:28.040What Yaniv didn't do, though, is provide the emails that he was sending to Donald during the live stream, threatening to beat the shit out of him.
00:24:38.060All these kinds of things, don't you show up, vile, hostile, violent threats.
00:24:46.980Finally, at some point in the video, Donald says, well, if you come after me, man, I'm going to punch you in the throat.
00:24:52.480Well, so that's what Yaniv goes to the police for.
00:24:56.540Now, under normal circumstances, I would not be too accommodating to somebody who threatens that.
00:25:04.140But after learning this story, looking at the numerous attempts that Donald did to seek legal, lawful remedy to the ongoing threats.
00:25:15.840I mean, these are death threats, Sheila.
00:26:26.040He gets released on his own reconnaissance and an undertaking of not to contact Yaniv or be in the vicinity of Yaniv.
00:26:36.640So as things escalate and Yaniv knows that he's going to be in court again, Yaniv contacts the Langley RCMP and claims that Donald has breached the order.
00:26:49.360And this is a supposed email that Donald has sent to Yaniv, which clearly if the RCMP and Langley had done any, any minuscule act of investigation would have seen that it was highly unlikely that Donald had sent that email.
00:28:28.320Like, you know, and in all honesty, the last time I saw Donald, I remember telling him, Donald, look, you have to be, you know, maybe it's the mom in me, but inside voice.
00:29:52.240It gives you hope and humanity, you know, that there's a lot of good people out there taking care of people who may be not able to take care of themselves.
00:29:59.880So I go to this hearing just a little bit unsure of what's going on because I've just carried, you know, the hearings today.
00:30:10.320And, you know, this is what's going on.
00:30:12.560So the night before, I think I didn't get much sleep just reviewing all the information.
00:30:17.200By the time I got to court, I was quite incensed at the whole system, Sheila, that nobody had bothered to investigate.
00:30:25.620Donald was an easy target, and it was easier for the law enforcement agencies just to shut him down and appease Yanef, not look at what was going on, not test whether what he was saying was true or not.
00:30:39.860So at the hearing, and this is probably what put me over the edge, the prisoner box is right in front, and Yanef sits himself right in front of where Donald has to be.
00:30:54.720And, you know, that's just, that's harassment.
00:31:02.600The fun thing, though, is Donald refuses to come out while Yanef's in the courtroom.
00:31:08.540So, eventually, you know, the court, the sheriffs just tell Yanef he's not coming out while you're here, and he probably won't come out today.
00:31:25.860So, by this time, it's been clear to me that the sheriffs at the Surrey Courthouse and other law enforcement agencies may be getting on to the drama that's associated with Yanef.
00:31:39.740So, so they inform Yanef that Donald's not going to show, so he leaves.
00:31:45.140They actually follow him out and make sure he leaves before they're going to tell Donald that it's safe to come out now.
00:31:53.400Now, during this time, I had the opportunity to speak with Donald's legal aid lawyer, who was being represented that day by an Arnold Green student.
00:32:03.620And I said to her, I said, I want you to, to let the court know that somebody is here in support of Donald, and we want a bail hearing.
00:32:09.880And she goes, well, that's, you can't have a bail hearing, it's been, not been 30 days.
00:32:15.460I said, I, I want it on the record that we want a bail hearing.
00:32:18.380Nobody knew last time to help Donald, those kinds of things.
00:32:23.740Well, of course, he's so excited to see me and, you know, not much is, is done at this proceeding, except to put it over to another date for a plea.
00:32:35.940And, you know, the, the big heart sign and, you know, it, it was quite endearing to me.
00:32:43.000I'll admit, I, pretty tough, but that was pretty special.
00:32:46.880So, um, just to know that by being there, somebody, you give somebody hope, like, and that's, I mean, important to me, that's really sad as well, right?
00:32:55.800But, so the court, you know, she, the, the article in the student puts it on the record that we want a bail hearing, blah, blah, blah.
00:33:05.920So, over the course of the next few weeks, I managed to go in and visit Donald every Saturday.
00:33:10.920And, uh, we, we, uh, brought him, got him money to pay for his housing because he had that, uh, money for commissary, you know, because once you're incarcerated, you know, unless you have family or friends, you don't have any goods.
00:33:27.080Um, I was also able, unfortunately, we have some good connections with the sheriffs and, and, uh, law enforcement agencies.
00:33:34.600And, and we were able to ensure that he was being treated well and given a job and that kind of thing.
00:33:40.080If you have a job in jail, that's three quarters of the battle.
00:34:37.080And, of course, he was, um, now he's in fighting mode because he has people standing with him.
00:34:43.020And, and, uh, you know, I, again, I have to say that I have quite a large spot in my heart these days for Donald Smith.
00:34:51.480So, so the judge comes out and, uh, Donald in full Donald says, not guilty, your honor, da, da, da, da, da, you know, and, and, and, and, and, of course, that, that, um, uh, sent Yanef into a tirade online that Donald was inappropriate in his outbursts and all this nonsense.
00:35:10.920But anyway, so, um, we put the, the, um, the not guilty plea in.
00:35:18.700Now he's supposed to stay in jail till June, right?
00:35:22.080So you have to appreciate, too, during this time, Yanef is outside Surrey pre-trial where Donald is incarcerated, making videos gloating about, you know, how he got Donald arrested and these kinds of things.
00:35:35.860He's, he's online, threatening everybody, um, you, you know, don't piss me off, you know, I'll do, I'll pull a Donald on you, you know, and this kind of just everywhere you look.
00:35:48.120So Yanef is quite pleased with himself and, you know, he's, he's in there till June, you know, he ain't coming out anytime soon.
00:35:55.620So between myself and the lawyer, we finally convinced Crown to have a bail hearing, and, uh, that, that transpires, and, um, fortunately, Crown says, okay, because they said that at the first time.
00:36:11.540They didn't really want to, but they, but we said, look, you weren't opposed to it the first go around.
00:36:16.640So this time we go back, uh, before the judge and, uh, I ended up speaking to the judge myself about Donald and his online community.
00:36:28.280And, you know, this, there's probably more to this case than what has been presented.
00:36:32.300And, uh, the judge agreed to give him bail.
00:36:35.500So we were able to get Donald out of jail, um, on a $10,000 surety.
00:36:43.100And, uh, so I posted my home, um, because there's certain, uh, conditions assigned to a surety.
00:37:08.240I think, um, when we then to the delight of the online crowd telling Jonathan Yaniv that Donald had been sprung, you know, that Donald is free, um, sent him into a tirade.
00:37:22.080I can only imagine, um, you know, he was embarrassed.
00:37:26.000He was, you know, all the things that he thought about the case, um, were now changed.
00:37:31.760And the person responsible for that is Carrie Simpson.
00:38:24.880And, uh, of course, um, you know, this is just, you know, then two minutes later, the poor tenant from downstairs that the business owner of the travel agency comes up knocking on our door just in a panic.
00:39:07.480So it's been, like I said, that's, uh, part of the story.
00:39:12.640Um, but certainly, um, I think what happened this last week with the lawsuit, uh, brings a whole new dimension to it.
00:39:21.020Yeah, let's talk about that because B, uh, and I think you and I were talking about this off air, but I think it is because you have leveled this major defeat against Jonathan Yaniv.
00:39:33.020If you've exposed him for the predatory, um, manipulator of vulnerable people that he really is, that now you're the bad guy.
00:39:43.620Now he has to shut you up because you can actually expose all the terrible things that he did to this vulnerable man, Donald Smith.
00:42:13.760So sure enough, the very officious sheriff monitor wanders over.
00:42:18.020Um, what is the purpose of your, you know, your presence here?
00:42:22.640We're here for the Yaniv case, you know, we're, you know, um, oh, uh, well, you know, uh, we both, I mean, you're not going to mess with somebody like Chris and myself.
00:43:13.120So apparently, according to another reporter who contacted the RCMP station the day after, uh, the file was generated.
00:43:21.960Now I know there was a file generated because after court, I just said to Chris, I said, you know what, let's just walk over to the RCMP detachment, which is just across the street from the courthouse in Surrey.
00:43:32.680And let's just see if he created another file.
00:43:37.360I mean, the files that are generated as a result of Yaniv are very concerning.
00:43:53.540Um, so I found out the next day from the other reporter that the information that she received was that I had caused a disruption at the courtroom.
00:44:07.640Sitting there by my very presence, I'm disrupting, I guess, Sheila, just this power that I possess to cause havoc while remaining seated is just, well, I think you have the same power.
00:44:25.340So, um, anyway, so the next thing I know is I'm being notified because this online community constantly monitors the online court reports.
00:44:36.420Yaniv has now filed a lawsuit in the small claims court, um, against me and Donald Smith.
00:44:42.500There's another one there for Donald as well.
00:44:44.460Um, he's very triggered because I won't use the proper pronouns and that somehow is promoting hatred and contempt for him.
00:44:54.160Um, the fact that I have an office here and observed his car, he's now suicidal as a result of it.
00:45:02.320So, and I should tell, you know, your viewers, the reason why this guy gets away with this kind of stuff is because the court is constantly accommodating him.
00:45:12.180When he went to file a notice of civil claim in the Supreme Court against Donald Smith, he gets his fees waived, right?
00:45:19.560He claims that he's not making enough income.
00:45:22.220He claims that he has dependent children.
00:45:24.320That is on the affidavit he swore in, in favor of waiving his fees, right?
00:45:34.460Um, the good news is he also acknowledges owning a condo that's worth $200,000.
00:45:40.520So, you know, that gives an opportunity for those that are being assaulted with canes and fists and, uh, fraudulent lawsuits, you know, that we do have remedy there.
00:45:51.860So, in, in a way, I'm actually kind of looking forward to this case because I've wanted a vehicle to once and for all deal with the issues around compelled speech, pronouns, those kinds of things.
00:46:06.220So, in, in a, in a unique and interesting way, YANF has paved that road for us to once and for all in this nation, make a determination in the courts as to my right not to have to engage in other people's delusions.
00:46:21.340So, um, there, you know, it, it, it, it's going to be interesting.
00:47:01.580Um, how, thank you for sharing your story.
00:47:05.340I mean, it's just a lot to digest, but how can people carry, how can they help you and how can they support the work that you're doing?
00:47:12.020Especially now that you're up against, uh, Jonathan, you need.
00:47:17.080Well, we do have a fundraiser for, for Donald Smith and I would appreciate, um, any, any financial help on that front.
00:47:25.720I can tell you this case has taken a lot of time and energy, mostly because not only am I trying to help Donald, I'm trying to stop further abuse of our courts, of other people, of other innocent people.
00:47:40.660And I can tell you that that's also going very well.
00:47:43.700I had a very good meeting with the RCMP, um, and I expect a few more in a, in a, in, in, in other detachments.
00:47:52.700I expect, um, some very good meetings with Crown in, in the near future.
00:47:58.120Um, but in order to, um, you know, we've had to do all the work, right?
00:48:02.580We've had to do the transcribing of the, the videos, the transcribing of help.
00:48:07.220We're the ones that have to show the investigating officers of, Hey, you should have looked at this email, compared it to the emails that you had from Donald, those kinds of things.
00:48:17.020And, you know, as we could begrudge having to do the work, but you know what, there's a good side to that too, Sheila, in that if we do it, they're going to know the extent that they have been manipulated.
00:48:28.740Um, and maybe there'll be a whole revisit of the entire RCMP organization on how they deal with these cases.
00:48:36.960So there could be some good come out of it, but it has been exhausting.
00:48:41.740It has been a huge amount of work and costs, you know, putting binders together with all the tabs and those kinds of things.
00:48:53.720So we do have the, the Donald Smith fundraiser.
00:48:56.840All of those funds go to help, um, us, uh, recoup some of the costs associated with what we call a very good public service work at this point.
00:49:06.320If we can stop the insanity and the abuse of our resources as taxpayers and of people, innocent people, vulnerable people, not just Donald Smith, but you know, those estheticians,
00:49:18.900those hardworking women, um, I was just downstairs at one of the facilities close by here.
00:50:21.700And you should not be able to skew statistics around biological females.
00:50:26.000You should not use our private places and you should not bring your predatory conduct to a place where you are, can harm vulnerable people.
00:50:36.140And that predatory conduct goes to what he's doing online to Donald Smith, what he did to those estheticians, what he's doing to these young girls that he, um, grooms online.
00:50:46.780And at some point, somebody has to compile all that information and get some justice done.
00:50:53.000And I can say I'm pretty optimistic that something good is going to happen along those lines.
00:51:00.620Carrie, from your lips to God's ears, where can people find the link to the fundraiser for Donald Smith and the work you're doing for him?
00:51:15.780Um, and yeah, cultureguard.com has most of the information about what's going on and who we're involved with.
00:51:22.760We have a number of challenges going on right now that just expose the craziness that, uh, the Western world seems to have embraced and, uh, needs to, uh, purge itself from.
00:51:34.680So, um, yeah, busy times on a lot of fronts, but, uh, never boring, Sheila.
00:51:42.420Carrie, I want to thank you so much for being so generous with your time today.
00:51:46.600It's a big story that required a lot of storytelling, um, and your patience with me and my Skype connection as all of the county that I live in is apparently on the internet on the one tower.
00:51:59.100So, so we had, we had a few bumps in the road, um, but, um, you're very patient and forgiving with me.
00:52:06.120Carrie, we'll have you back on the show really soon because I think, I think we're all going to be following what happens with you and Jonathan, you need very closely.
00:52:14.940Well, and I want to say, Sheila, to you and everybody at rebel media, um, this is truly a new world.
00:52:21.320And, uh, I thank you for all the good work you and your colleagues do there.
00:52:26.080Um, it is, uh, a challenge I know, but, uh, we are making inroads and a difference.
00:52:32.340And I think civil Canadians across the country are rising up and, and some good is going to come out of it in the very near future.
00:52:40.040So my appreciation to all of you, the rebel.