Rebel News Podcast - August 15, 2019


Justin Trudeau has been convicted of breaking the law in the SNC-Lavalin scandal. He should resign.


Episode Stats

Length

45 minutes

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168.47021

Word Count

7,696

Sentence Count

590

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

Justin Trudeau has been convicted of breaking the law in the SNC-Lavalin scandal. Why should others go to jail when you're not going to jail? Ezra Levenant takes you through the report from the new Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner, Mario Dion.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, folks, today I'm going to do a little bit of reading for you.
00:00:02.620 I'm going to read from the text of the Dion Report.
00:00:06.340 That's Mario Dion, the new ethics commissioner.
00:00:08.900 I'm going to take you through it.
00:00:09.780 It's about some of the crooked conduct of Justin Trudeau
00:00:13.600 in the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
00:00:16.080 There's so much in there.
00:00:17.500 You know, I only touched the surface,
00:00:19.520 but I'll read a few minutes of it to you.
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00:00:49.620 Tonight, huge news.
00:00:51.660 News that in a healthy democracy would result in a resignation.
00:00:55.240 Justin Trudeau has been convicted of breaking the law
00:00:59.260 in the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
00:01:01.460 It's August 14th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:06.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:10.200 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:14.260 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
00:01:17.780 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:20.140 Justin Trudeau has broken the law again.
00:01:28.000 It's what, his fifth violation now?
00:01:30.400 That's a problem in itself because it's becoming normalized.
00:01:34.240 We're turning into a place where it doesn't much matter
00:01:36.140 if we have a lawbreaker as our chief lawmaker.
00:01:39.360 Other than legalizing drugs,
00:01:41.540 I don't think Trudeau really has any other legacy, don't you?
00:01:45.260 No, it's awful.
00:01:46.780 Here's the news.
00:01:48.760 He's being convicted of violating the Conflict of Interest Act
00:01:51.720 by interfering with Jody Wilson-Raybould,
00:01:54.420 who was then the Attorney General,
00:01:56.180 by trying to get her to drop criminal charges
00:01:58.620 against a corrupt Quebec engineering company called SNC-Lavalin.
00:02:02.920 The report today was released
00:02:05.520 by the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner.
00:02:08.640 His name is Mario Dion.
00:02:10.340 I tell you that because this is the second Conflict of Interest
00:02:14.440 and Ethics Commissioner who has convicted Trudeau.
00:02:17.480 You can see the cover of his book,
00:02:20.360 The Conviction Findings.
00:02:21.360 It's called Trudeau 2 Report.
00:02:24.120 You see that?
00:02:24.860 That's because there is already a Trudeau Report No. 1
00:02:28.560 by the earlier ethics commissioner.
00:02:31.560 It was a finding by the previous commissioner
00:02:33.040 when Trudeau illegally took a bribe worth about $200,000
00:02:36.640 in the form of a free family vacation to Billionaire's Island,
00:02:41.560 a private island in the Bahamas owned by the Aga Khan,
00:02:44.200 a billionaire who just happens to have a lot of business
00:02:46.520 with the Canadian government.
00:02:47.500 And by business, I mean we give him big cash grants for his project.
00:02:52.660 So it's pretty easy to see how that would be illegal.
00:02:55.240 The Aga Khan gives Trudeau's family free vacations
00:02:58.300 and Trudeau's government gives the Aga Khan millions of dollars
00:03:01.500 in taxpayers' money.
00:03:02.600 That's called corruption.
00:03:03.400 It's why it's against the law for politicians to take gifts.
00:03:06.840 It's why, for example, it's illegal for Trudeau
00:03:09.160 to take free flights from any donor.
00:03:12.380 And in fact, he took a private flight from the Aga Khan
00:03:14.560 to get to Billionaire Island.
00:03:16.140 It's a bribe.
00:03:18.260 Trudeau isn't so stupid not to know that.
00:03:20.620 That's why he covered it up.
00:03:22.600 Kept it a secret, did not disclose it,
00:03:24.160 then tried to cover it up.
00:03:25.520 Again, Gerald Butts was up to his eyeballs,
00:03:27.360 and that one too.
00:03:28.560 Butts was the janitor, the cleanup man for Trudeau's mess.
00:03:31.660 It didn't work, or maybe it did.
00:03:32.960 I mean, other than a bit of news, nothing really happened, did it?
00:03:36.040 No criminal charges.
00:03:37.600 The media still deeply loved Trudeau after Billionaire Island.
00:03:41.340 But this second report, it's a doozy.
00:03:43.700 I'm going to quote from it today.
00:03:45.800 I think you already know the basics.
00:03:47.940 As you know, SNC-Lavalin is a corrupt company
00:03:50.020 that, as part of its business model,
00:03:52.060 pays tens of millions of dollars in bribes
00:03:54.600 to public officials around the world
00:03:56.240 to get them to give big contracts to SNC-Lavalin.
00:03:59.380 But they're not only corrupt themselves,
00:04:01.960 they corrupt public institutions.
00:04:03.440 They're stealing from citizens
00:04:04.900 who have to overpay for projects.
00:04:07.100 They're stealing from other honest engineering firms.
00:04:10.560 But worse than the theft of money
00:04:12.100 is the destruction of public ethics.
00:04:14.340 They pay tens of millions of dollars in bribes
00:04:16.520 to Muammar Gaddafi's family
00:04:18.200 to get fat contracts in Libya.
00:04:21.080 The company even bought prostitutes and drugs
00:04:23.520 in Canada for Gaddafi's son.
00:04:26.020 SNC-Lavalin is basically a criminal organization.
00:04:28.320 I'm not saying everyone who works there was.
00:04:30.400 Obviously, it's full of honest engineers
00:04:32.560 who do honest work.
00:04:33.600 But the executives, the salesmen,
00:04:35.900 the people going around to drum up the business,
00:04:37.540 they're criminals.
00:04:38.840 Now, this is not a baseless allegation.
00:04:40.460 It's an admission by the company.
00:04:41.940 Oh, and it's not just overseas.
00:04:43.640 They do this in Canada, which really bugs me.
00:04:46.500 It's one thing to steal from Libyans,
00:04:48.140 but I'm not really Libyan.
00:04:49.120 I don't care much.
00:04:50.840 But they're stealing from Canadians,
00:04:52.380 corrupting Canadians.
00:04:53.260 They're stealing from hospital budgets in Canada.
00:04:55.760 Who does that?
00:04:56.560 What low-life criminals steal from the sick?
00:04:59.080 Well, SNC-Lavalin, that's who.
00:05:02.100 So that's against the law, if you didn't know.
00:05:03.940 And so the government was prosecuting them,
00:05:06.440 which is correct.
00:05:07.100 And Jody Wilson-Raybould
00:05:08.080 was the attorney general
00:05:10.180 overseeing the Department of Public Prosecutions,
00:05:13.080 which was actually running the lawsuit
00:05:14.440 against SNC-Lavalin.
00:05:15.980 And Trudeau intervened again and again.
00:05:18.480 He did so personally,
00:05:19.660 and he put his whole staff onto it.
00:05:21.460 And Gerald Butts was behind it all,
00:05:23.440 just like he was behind the cover-up
00:05:24.760 for the illegal vacation in the Bahamas.
00:05:27.640 Trudeau tried to get Jody Wilson-Raybould
00:05:29.300 to drop the charges against his criminal friends.
00:05:32.520 Was Trudeau on the take, too?
00:05:34.300 Did he take bribes, too,
00:05:35.900 like the other liberals did in Montreal, too,
00:05:38.180 for the hospital,
00:05:38.860 like the Gaddafis did in Libya?
00:05:40.300 We have no evidence that he did.
00:05:42.680 But if he was taking bribes from SNC-Lavalin,
00:05:45.040 I really don't see a single thing
00:05:46.520 he would do differently than he has been doing.
00:05:48.420 He really has been as partisan and desperate
00:05:51.640 and interfering on SNC-Lavalin's behalf
00:05:54.000 as the Gaddafis were in Libya,
00:05:55.720 except here in Canada,
00:05:57.020 there are still some checks and balances.
00:05:59.340 He had to fire Jody Wilson-Raybould
00:06:00.920 because she got in his way.
00:06:02.880 But the conflict of interest and ethics commissioner
00:06:05.600 called him out today.
00:06:08.040 Now that's a paper tiger.
00:06:10.480 That's nothing.
00:06:11.220 He's not going to jail.
00:06:12.960 That's not a criminal conviction against Trudeau himself.
00:06:15.320 But at least it's a warning to all of us.
00:06:17.780 I'd like to read a little bit from that warning now.
00:06:19.700 I'd like to read some extended excerpts
00:06:21.640 from the findings today.
00:06:22.860 A conviction.
00:06:23.740 He was convicted of breaking the law.
00:06:25.400 Again, he was the first prime minister in history
00:06:28.060 to be convicted of breaking a federal law
00:06:29.980 while prime ministering.
00:06:31.220 And this is, I think, his fifth conviction
00:06:32.920 under the Conflict of Interest Act.
00:06:34.640 And remember, when this all broke
00:06:36.380 in a bombshell front page story
00:06:37.720 by the Globe and Mail back in February,
00:06:40.820 remember what Trudeau said?
00:06:41.860 He called it fake news.
00:06:44.280 The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false.
00:06:49.120 Neither the current nor the previous Attorney General
00:06:52.440 was ever directed by me or by anyone in my office
00:06:56.500 to take a decision in this matter.
00:07:00.120 The allegations reported in the story are false.
00:07:03.980 At no time did I or my office
00:07:07.960 direct the current or previous Attorney General
00:07:11.640 to make any particular decision in this matter.
00:07:16.640 Yeah, he's a liar.
00:07:17.820 I'm shocked, aren't you?
00:07:19.820 Maybe one day the RCMP will actually decide
00:07:21.840 to do their job.
00:07:23.660 I mean, I know the new RCMP commissioner
00:07:25.820 is a feminist just like Trudeau
00:07:27.900 and she was just appointed by Trudeau
00:07:29.760 and she owes her career to Trudeau.
00:07:31.220 But maybe she still has a shred of public interest
00:07:33.560 left in her deep down under all the liberal BS maybe.
00:07:36.620 So let me read to you from the ethics report today.
00:07:39.420 So I'm reading from Mario Dion's report.
00:07:42.880 This report, he says,
00:07:45.460 represents the findings of my examination
00:07:47.580 under the Conflict of Interest Act
00:07:49.080 of the conduct of the right Honorable Justin Trudeau,
00:07:52.280 Prime Minister of Canada.
00:07:53.260 I sought to determine whether he used his position
00:07:56.140 to seek to influence a decision
00:07:58.060 of the Attorney General of Canada,
00:07:59.700 the Honorable Jody Wilson-Raybould.
00:08:01.220 Relating to a criminal prosecution
00:08:02.900 involving SNC-Lavalin,
00:08:05.060 contrary to Section 9 of the Act.
00:08:07.900 Section 9 prohibits public officeholders
00:08:10.040 from using their position
00:08:10.960 to seek to influence a decision
00:08:13.080 of another person
00:08:14.120 so as to further their own private interests
00:08:16.300 or those of their relatives or friends,
00:08:18.220 or to improperly further
00:08:19.560 another person's private interests.
00:08:22.640 Pretty clear.
00:08:23.340 And that private interests is a key point
00:08:26.100 because Trudeau keeps saying jobs, jobs, jobs,
00:08:28.900 but today Mario Dion found, no, no, no.
00:08:32.360 He was actually fighting for SNC-Lavalin's
00:08:34.920 financial interests and his own political interests.
00:08:38.020 I'm going to keep going.
00:08:38.800 I'm going to skip some unimportant sentences.
00:08:41.160 It's quite a long document.
00:08:42.660 I want to speed it up.
00:08:43.400 Let me read some more.
00:08:44.080 SNC-Lavalin was charged in February 2015
00:08:47.720 with criminal offenses
00:08:49.080 that allegedly took place
00:08:50.200 between 2001 and 2011
00:08:52.420 under a remediation agreement,
00:08:54.640 also called a Deferred Prosecution Agreement.
00:08:57.640 The criminal charges could be deferred or suspended.
00:09:00.720 At the time, Canada did not have a regime
00:09:02.680 to allow remediation agreements.
00:09:04.400 In early 2016, SNC-Lavalin began lobbying officials
00:09:08.760 with the current government
00:09:10.040 to adopt a remediation agreement regime.
00:09:13.580 Following public consultations,
00:09:14.880 amendments to the criminal code
00:09:15.840 allowing for such a regime were adopted
00:09:17.980 as part of the 2018 federal budget.
00:09:22.000 On September 4th, 2018,
00:09:24.060 the Director of Public Prosecutions
00:09:25.480 informed the Officer of the Minister of Justice
00:09:28.280 and Attorney General
00:09:29.000 that she would not invite SNC-Lavalin
00:09:31.580 to negotiate a possible remediation agreement.
00:09:34.100 The Prime Minister's office
00:09:35.140 and the Minister of Finance's office
00:09:37.760 were then informed of this decision
00:09:40.280 by Ms. Wilson-Raybould's office.
00:09:43.160 Mr. Trudeau then directed his staff
00:09:45.260 to find a solution
00:09:46.540 that would safeguard SNC-Lavalin's
00:09:48.880 business interests in Canada.
00:09:51.500 The first step in my analysis
00:09:53.060 was to determine whether Mr. Trudeau
00:09:54.880 sought to influence the decision
00:09:56.280 of the Attorney General
00:09:57.540 as to whether she would intervene
00:09:59.380 in a criminal prosecution
00:10:00.820 involving SNC-Lavalin
00:10:02.220 following the decision
00:10:04.000 of the Director of Public Prosecutions.
00:10:05.320 The evidence showed
00:10:07.060 there were many ways
00:10:09.120 in which Mr. Trudeau
00:10:11.140 either directly
00:10:12.280 or through the actions
00:10:13.540 of those under his direction
00:10:14.620 sought to influence
00:10:16.220 the Attorney General.
00:10:18.200 There were many ways.
00:10:19.640 Not once, not an accident,
00:10:22.360 but part of an ongoing plan.
00:10:23.580 If this were a gang,
00:10:25.800 if this were the mafia,
00:10:28.540 it would be called
00:10:29.000 a criminal conspiracy.
00:10:29.980 To tamper with a criminal trial?
00:10:33.300 Here, let me read some more.
00:10:35.400 Having reviewed several possible means
00:10:36.900 of intervening in the matter,
00:10:38.300 Ms. Wilson-Raybould
00:10:39.020 made it known in September
00:10:40.320 that she would not intervene
00:10:41.920 in the Director of Public Prosecutions
00:10:43.260 decision.
00:10:45.140 Mr. Trudeau met with
00:10:46.180 Ms. Wilson-Raybould
00:10:46.840 on September 17,
00:10:48.320 at which time she reiterated
00:10:50.020 her decision not to intervene
00:10:51.380 in the Director of Public Prosecutions
00:10:53.180 decision to not invite SNC-Lavalin
00:10:55.600 to enter into a remediation agreement.
00:10:57.360 She also expressed to Mr. Trudeau
00:10:59.640 her concern of inappropriate attempts
00:11:01.960 to interfere politically
00:11:03.240 with the Attorney General
00:11:04.080 in a criminal matter.
00:11:05.940 Following this meeting,
00:11:06.800 senior officials under the direction
00:11:08.120 of Mr. Trudeau
00:11:08.740 continued to engage both
00:11:11.580 with SNC-Lavalin's legal counsel
00:11:13.280 and separately with Ms. Wilson-Raybould
00:11:16.200 and her ministerial staff
00:11:17.340 to influence her decision
00:11:18.800 even after SNC-Lavalin
00:11:20.660 had filed an application
00:11:21.740 for a judicial review
00:11:23.120 of the Director of Public Prosecution's decision.
00:11:24.900 These attempts also included
00:11:27.620 encouraging her
00:11:28.600 to re-examine the possibility
00:11:30.380 of obtaining external advice
00:11:32.060 from someone like
00:11:33.560 a former Chief Justice
00:11:34.720 of the Supreme Court.
00:11:36.360 Unbeknownst to the Attorney General
00:11:37.860 at that time,
00:11:38.920 legal opinions from
00:11:39.760 two Supreme Court justices
00:11:41.660 retained by SNC-Lavalin
00:11:43.500 had been reviewed
00:11:45.100 by the Prime Minister's Office
00:11:46.240 and other ministerial offices.
00:11:49.560 Meanwhile,
00:11:50.280 both SNC-Lavalin
00:11:51.240 and the Prime Minister's Office
00:11:52.280 had approached
00:11:53.000 former Chief Justice
00:11:53.860 of the Supreme Court
00:11:54.640 to participate in the matter.
00:11:56.360 The final attempt
00:11:57.220 to influence Ms. Wilson-Raybould
00:11:58.560 occurred during a conversation
00:12:00.140 with the former Clerk
00:12:01.400 of the Privy Council
00:12:02.140 on December 19th
00:12:03.180 as an appeal
00:12:04.020 on behalf of Mr. Trudeau
00:12:05.360 to impress upon her
00:12:06.500 that a solution was needed
00:12:07.920 to prevent
00:12:08.580 the economic consequences
00:12:09.940 of SNC-Lavalin
00:12:11.000 not entering into negotiations
00:12:12.840 for a remediation agreement.
00:12:16.200 Oh, there were a lot of things
00:12:17.360 in there, weren't there?
00:12:17.900 Did you catch the part
00:12:18.780 where they tried to trick
00:12:20.120 Jody Wilson-Raybould?
00:12:21.160 Remember,
00:12:21.520 they told her,
00:12:22.300 hey, maybe we could
00:12:24.280 possibly ask
00:12:25.280 someone really smart
00:12:26.360 like a former
00:12:27.460 Supreme Court judge
00:12:28.320 what they think?
00:12:29.740 Would you be open to that?
00:12:32.020 I mean,
00:12:32.320 that's bizarre
00:12:33.000 and absurd
00:12:33.860 and inappropriate
00:12:34.500 that's not how we do things.
00:12:35.860 But you see,
00:12:36.320 it was a trick.
00:12:37.280 They were already
00:12:38.380 on side with SNC-Lavalin.
00:12:40.100 They had been hired
00:12:41.200 by SNC-Lavalin.
00:12:42.680 SNC-Lavalin paid
00:12:44.280 for Frank Iacobucci,
00:12:45.320 a former Supreme Court judge,
00:12:46.280 to come up with an opinion.
00:12:47.700 They were actually
00:12:48.160 going to show that.
00:12:49.060 There was another judge, too.
00:12:50.540 They had all these judges
00:12:51.520 lined up.
00:12:52.180 They knew what they
00:12:52.840 were going to say.
00:12:53.980 They were trying to trick
00:12:55.180 Jody Wilson-Raybould.
00:12:57.060 It didn't work.
00:12:59.160 So they had to fire her.
00:13:01.420 Here's more.
00:13:03.660 Simply seeking to influence
00:13:05.120 the decision of another person
00:13:06.360 is insufficient
00:13:07.340 for there to be
00:13:08.700 a contravention of Section 9.
00:13:09.960 The second step
00:13:10.600 of the analysis
00:13:11.100 was to determine
00:13:12.200 whether Mr. Trudeau,
00:13:13.020 through his actions
00:13:13.660 and those of his staff,
00:13:14.880 sought to improperly
00:13:16.380 further the interests
00:13:17.860 of SNC-Lavalin.
00:13:19.740 The evidence showed
00:13:20.860 that SNC-Lavalin
00:13:21.640 had significant
00:13:23.020 financial interests
00:13:23.940 in deferring prosecution.
00:13:25.500 These interests
00:13:25.960 would likely have been furthered
00:13:27.540 had Mr. Trudeau
00:13:28.580 successfully influenced
00:13:30.180 the Attorney General
00:13:30.960 to intervene
00:13:31.580 in the direction
00:13:32.500 of public prosecution's decision.
00:13:35.020 The actions
00:13:35.620 that sought to further
00:13:36.760 these interests
00:13:37.260 were improper
00:13:37.960 since they were contrary
00:13:39.420 to the Shawcross doctrine
00:13:41.400 and the principles
00:13:41.960 of prosecutorial independence
00:13:43.200 and the rule of law.
00:13:45.300 I'll just read
00:13:46.680 a little bit more.
00:13:48.320 Here's the key part.
00:13:50.220 For these reasons,
00:13:51.480 I found that Mr. Trudeau
00:13:52.740 used his position
00:13:54.160 of authority
00:13:54.980 over Ms. Wilson-Raybould
00:13:56.520 to seek to influence
00:13:57.660 both directly
00:13:58.580 and indirectly
00:13:59.280 her decision
00:14:00.300 on whether she should
00:14:01.160 overreel
00:14:01.520 the Director
00:14:01.940 of Public Prosecution's
00:14:02.980 decision
00:14:03.400 not to invite SNC-Lavalin
00:14:05.240 to enter into negotiations
00:14:06.480 toward a remediation agreement.
00:14:09.180 Therefore,
00:14:10.140 I find that Mr. Trudeau
00:14:11.620 contravenes
00:14:12.540 Section 9
00:14:13.320 of the Act.
00:14:14.280 Boom.
00:14:14.460 He's a lawbreaker.
00:14:15.800 Your Prime Minister
00:14:16.500 is a lawbreaker.
00:14:17.300 He broke the law.
00:14:18.340 But we all knew that.
00:14:19.380 But we didn't know
00:14:20.360 some other details.
00:14:21.340 I didn't know
00:14:22.380 that Trudeau
00:14:23.240 was actively working
00:14:24.440 with SNC-Lavalin
00:14:25.560 against the Attorney General.
00:14:28.560 While Jody Wilson-Raybould
00:14:29.820 and the Director
00:14:30.640 of Public Prosecutions
00:14:31.440 were prosecuting,
00:14:33.040 Trudeau was collaborating
00:14:34.600 with SNC-Lavalin.
00:14:37.140 That's incredible.
00:14:38.580 Now, we knew
00:14:39.320 a lot of this before,
00:14:41.080 but for some reason
00:14:41.960 we're all acting
00:14:42.620 like everything's just fine.
00:14:44.460 Now, let me read to you
00:14:45.140 another interesting part
00:14:46.260 of this report.
00:14:46.760 I won't read you
00:14:47.260 too much more.
00:14:48.240 This ethics commissioner,
00:14:49.280 Mario Dion,
00:14:51.120 he started to investigate
00:14:52.400 in February,
00:14:53.000 right when the Globe story broke.
00:14:54.280 I think he started
00:14:54.820 the next day, in fact.
00:14:56.380 Listen to how Trudeau
00:14:57.520 tried to cover up the fact.
00:14:59.480 We saw him lying there.
00:15:01.000 Oh, the story is false.
00:15:03.040 Look at how he covered up
00:15:03.940 the facts.
00:15:04.260 If he were a conservative,
00:15:05.220 he would be compared
00:15:06.700 to Richard Nixon
00:15:07.440 hiding documents,
00:15:08.480 deleting tapes.
00:15:10.220 Look at this.
00:15:10.660 Let me read this.
00:15:12.060 On February 8th,
00:15:13.560 I wrote to Mr. Trudeau.
00:15:14.600 This is Mario Dion speaking.
00:15:16.980 I wrote to Mr. Trudeau
00:15:18.000 to inform him
00:15:18.660 that I was initiating
00:15:19.480 an examination
00:15:20.020 of his conduct.
00:15:21.300 I informed Mr. Trudeau
00:15:22.460 that the purpose
00:15:23.000 of my examination
00:15:23.680 was to determine
00:15:24.640 whether he used
00:15:25.380 this position
00:15:25.920 to seek to influence
00:15:27.040 the decision
00:15:27.500 of Ms. Wilson-Raybould
00:15:28.300 in her capacity
00:15:28.980 as Attorney General
00:15:29.620 of Canada
00:15:30.040 so as to improperly
00:15:32.000 further the private interest
00:15:33.020 of SNC-Lavalin.
00:15:34.000 I requested
00:15:35.000 that Mr. Trudeau
00:15:36.820 produce all relevant
00:15:38.140 documents in the possession,
00:15:39.500 custody, or control
00:15:40.780 of the Prime Minister's office.
00:15:41.880 Okay.
00:15:43.840 During this examination,
00:15:46.020 nine witnesses,
00:15:47.840 so this is nine staff
00:15:48.920 of Trudeau,
00:15:50.540 informed our office
00:15:51.460 that they had information
00:15:52.940 they believed
00:15:54.400 to be relevant
00:15:55.540 but that could not
00:15:57.480 be disclosed
00:15:58.040 because according to them
00:15:58.900 this information
00:15:59.480 would reveal
00:16:00.060 a confidence
00:16:00.860 of the Queen's Privy Council
00:16:01.960 and would fall
00:16:02.700 outside the scope
00:16:03.400 of order
00:16:03.840 in Council 2019-105.
00:16:07.280 In order to gain access
00:16:08.660 to as much relevant
00:16:09.460 information as possible,
00:16:10.740 on March 29th,
00:16:11.480 I instructed legal counsel
00:16:12.520 in our office
00:16:13.020 to engage with counterparts
00:16:14.440 in the Privy Council office
00:16:15.360 to request that witnesses
00:16:16.740 be enabled
00:16:17.840 to provide all of their
00:16:19.600 evidence to our office.
00:16:20.720 Despite several weeks
00:16:21.780 of discussions,
00:16:22.860 the office has remained
00:16:23.740 at an impasse
00:16:24.480 over access
00:16:25.140 to cabinet documents.
00:16:27.320 On May 3rd,
00:16:27.900 I raised the matter
00:16:28.480 directly with the Prime Minister
00:16:29.600 during his interview.
00:16:30.620 Through legal counsel,
00:16:31.500 Mr. Trudeau stated
00:16:32.340 that he would consult
00:16:33.240 with the Privy Council office
00:16:34.180 to see whether
00:16:34.760 the order in Council
00:16:35.860 could be amended.
00:16:37.220 So I guess
00:16:37.580 Justin Trudeau
00:16:38.240 needed permission.
00:16:40.200 In a letter dated
00:16:41.040 June 13th,
00:16:41.780 the clerk of the Privy Council
00:16:42.640 declined my request
00:16:43.860 for access to all
00:16:44.960 cabinet conferences
00:16:45.680 in respect
00:16:47.080 to this investigation.
00:16:48.480 Because of the decisions
00:16:49.700 to deny our office
00:16:51.380 further access
00:16:52.140 to cabinet confidences,
00:16:53.800 witnesses were constrained
00:16:54.920 in their ability
00:16:55.620 to provide all evidence.
00:16:57.280 I was therefore
00:16:58.340 prevented
00:16:59.700 from looking over
00:17:01.200 the entire body
00:17:02.120 of evidence
00:17:02.560 to determine
00:17:03.040 its relevance
00:17:03.560 to my examination.
00:17:05.020 Decisions that affect
00:17:05.960 my jurisdiction
00:17:06.580 under the Act
00:17:07.280 by setting parameters
00:17:08.660 on my ability
00:17:09.280 to receive evidence
00:17:10.180 should be made
00:17:11.640 transparently
00:17:12.300 and democratically
00:17:13.120 by Parliament,
00:17:14.080 not by the very same
00:17:15.060 public office holders
00:17:15.900 who are subject
00:17:16.720 to the regime
00:17:17.320 I administer.
00:17:18.420 I am convinced
00:17:19.700 that if our office
00:17:21.060 is to remain truly
00:17:21.940 independent
00:17:22.380 and fulfill its purpose,
00:17:23.640 I must have unfettered
00:17:24.880 access to all information
00:17:26.460 that could be relevant
00:17:27.180 to the exercise
00:17:27.760 of my mandate.
00:17:28.460 I must be satisfied
00:17:29.540 that decisions made
00:17:30.580 by the most senior
00:17:31.520 public of office holders,
00:17:32.820 including those
00:17:33.500 discussed at cabinet,
00:17:34.740 are free from
00:17:35.580 any conflicts
00:17:36.180 of interest.
00:17:37.720 In the present examination,
00:17:39.360 I have gathered
00:17:39.820 sufficient factual information
00:17:41.100 to properly determine
00:17:42.520 the matter on its merits.
00:17:43.680 Because of my inability
00:17:44.680 to access
00:17:45.240 all cabinet conferences
00:17:46.520 related to the matter,
00:17:48.180 I must, however,
00:17:48.740 report that I was unable
00:17:49.600 to fully discharge
00:17:51.420 the investigatory duties
00:17:52.820 conferred upon me
00:17:53.660 by the Act.
00:17:54.720 All right,
00:17:55.100 I'm sorry to read so much,
00:17:56.240 but my point is this.
00:17:57.180 Trudeau is a lawbreaker.
00:18:00.340 That's the son.
00:18:00.900 He was convicted today.
00:18:02.380 But we don't even know
00:18:03.680 the half of it.
00:18:05.400 Because Trudeau continues
00:18:06.940 to refuse to hand over
00:18:08.780 information,
00:18:09.600 and he has ordered
00:18:10.940 his staff not to talk either,
00:18:13.060 saying it's confidential.
00:18:14.720 But this is the ethics
00:18:15.660 commissioner.
00:18:16.120 His job is to investigate
00:18:17.400 confidential things.
00:18:18.620 He won't blab
00:18:19.380 about state secrets.
00:18:20.680 He's not an outsider.
00:18:22.000 He's an internal check
00:18:23.340 on the power of MPs,
00:18:24.660 including cabinet.
00:18:25.460 And Trudeau refuses
00:18:26.640 to let him see
00:18:27.400 what Trudeau did.
00:18:29.180 Do you have any plans
00:18:30.620 to resign or at least
00:18:31.780 apologize formally?
00:18:33.400 I recognize that this
00:18:36.360 was a situation
00:18:37.240 that shouldn't have happened.
00:18:39.040 But my desire
00:18:40.460 to protect Canadians
00:18:42.180 and at the same time
00:18:43.800 to protect the integrity
00:18:45.600 and the independence
00:18:46.560 of our judicial institutions
00:18:48.900 remained throughout.
00:18:51.460 We recognize that
00:18:53.020 the way this happened
00:18:54.420 shouldn't have happened
00:18:55.780 and I take responsibility
00:18:57.680 for the mistakes
00:18:59.540 that I made.
00:19:01.280 At the same time,
00:19:02.320 we learned many lessons
00:19:03.480 through that
00:19:04.040 and were aided
00:19:05.060 and will be aided
00:19:05.900 by the McClellan Report,
00:19:07.520 which has been released today.
00:19:09.740 Look at how he's talking there.
00:19:12.700 It was an incredible
00:19:13.820 press conference.
00:19:14.480 I don't want to play
00:19:14.880 too much of it.
00:19:15.360 You'll get dumber
00:19:15.940 by the second.
00:19:16.700 It's like your IQ
00:19:17.300 will be ping, ping, ping, ping, ping.
00:19:19.700 I don't want to make you
00:19:20.240 any dumber.
00:19:21.520 I did it.
00:19:22.400 I watched it.
00:19:23.100 I'm about five IQ points
00:19:24.300 dumber.
00:19:24.580 I'll never get him back.
00:19:26.240 But you see what he did there?
00:19:27.220 He reframed the issue
00:19:28.100 as if he wasn't in it.
00:19:29.960 He always says,
00:19:30.640 oh, there are lessons learned
00:19:31.960 and you see,
00:19:32.540 I was trying so hard.
00:19:34.560 I love judicial independence
00:19:36.440 and I love standing up
00:19:37.680 for jobs
00:19:38.120 and I just love too much.
00:19:41.220 So we have to balance.
00:19:43.220 But it's always as if
00:19:44.440 he's an outside observer.
00:19:46.240 Just like you and me,
00:19:46.960 he's passive.
00:19:47.440 He's above the fray.
00:19:49.000 He said he accepts
00:19:50.180 the ruling
00:19:51.440 by the commissioner
00:19:53.080 but he disagrees with it.
00:19:55.020 Well, hang on.
00:19:56.100 Which one is it, buddy?
00:19:57.540 You accept it
00:19:58.360 or you disagree with it?
00:19:59.800 Oh, well, neither.
00:20:00.820 He's got nothing to do with it.
00:20:02.140 He'll solve the problem.
00:20:03.880 In fact,
00:20:04.460 he'll reconcile
00:20:05.340 those two differences,
00:20:06.480 those two different interests,
00:20:08.820 independent judiciary
00:20:09.980 and fighting for jobs.
00:20:11.660 Neither of which
00:20:12.420 was the fact.
00:20:14.060 He wasn't fighting for jobs.
00:20:15.340 The ethics commissioner
00:20:18.140 said it was a private interest
00:20:20.000 he was serving.
00:20:21.680 But he's above the problem.
00:20:23.140 He's watching it
00:20:23.860 like a pundit.
00:20:26.920 No, you crook.
00:20:28.340 You are the problem.
00:20:31.060 But you know,
00:20:31.500 precious few journalists
00:20:32.620 dare to say that.
00:20:35.360 Who can intervene here?
00:20:37.800 Who can stop this?
00:20:38.800 It's been five convictions now.
00:20:40.240 Who can have the power
00:20:43.000 to get those documents
00:20:44.100 that he's hiding,
00:20:45.160 to get those nine witnesses,
00:20:46.620 to make them free
00:20:47.180 to testify in court
00:20:48.320 over Trudeau's objections?
00:20:50.160 Well, the only answer
00:20:51.200 is the RCMP, actually.
00:20:54.720 But they're silent.
00:20:57.360 Here's a letter months ago
00:20:58.540 signed by
00:20:59.100 former attorneys general
00:21:01.600 across Canada
00:21:02.720 from different political parties,
00:21:05.700 different regions.
00:21:06.440 They're all asking
00:21:07.380 the RCMP to investigate.
00:21:09.540 So far,
00:21:11.700 silence from the RCMP.
00:21:13.620 But how can they be silent now
00:21:14.960 in the face of this
00:21:16.000 legal finding of fact
00:21:17.260 that Justin Trudeau
00:21:19.740 broke the law?
00:21:20.480 How can they not?
00:21:21.680 They have the facts
00:21:22.820 and they have the law.
00:21:24.100 He's convicted.
00:21:25.260 How can they not investigate
00:21:26.200 him for corruption now?
00:21:27.240 Frankly, to investigate
00:21:28.520 if he himself took bribes
00:21:29.940 because he sure is acting
00:21:31.200 like he did.
00:21:32.900 It's that brazenness.
00:21:34.240 Trudeau and his cronies
00:21:35.180 are daring people
00:21:36.100 to move on.
00:21:37.420 They're daring them.
00:21:38.240 They're acting like
00:21:39.040 everything's normal.
00:21:39.720 They're saying,
00:21:40.080 no, no, no.
00:21:41.060 You're the weird one.
00:21:42.760 Oh, if you think
00:21:43.780 we did something wrong,
00:21:44.620 well, you must be extremist
00:21:45.680 or racist.
00:21:48.400 You know, by saying
00:21:50.200 that we shouldn't protect
00:21:51.660 such a star company
00:21:52.900 like SNC-Lavalin,
00:21:54.900 even though it's already
00:21:55.600 confessed as serially
00:21:56.480 corrupt,
00:21:57.100 bribe-paying company,
00:21:57.840 if you don't stand
00:21:58.680 with SNC-Lavalin,
00:21:59.620 you must be an Islamophobe.
00:22:01.560 Gerald Butts,
00:22:02.240 the mastermind
00:22:02.860 of both the vacation
00:22:03.880 on Billionaire Island
00:22:04.820 and this corruption,
00:22:06.160 he originally resigned
00:22:07.300 in disgrace.
00:22:07.960 Do you remember that?
00:22:08.660 But now he's just
00:22:09.560 waltzed back into the PMO.
00:22:11.180 I mean, why not?
00:22:12.660 Who's going to speak
00:22:13.300 against him?
00:22:13.840 The media,
00:22:14.500 who are now on his payroll
00:22:16.140 through the bailout.
00:22:17.160 Here's the Huffington Post today.
00:22:19.220 Oops.
00:22:19.820 Ha, ha, ha.
00:22:20.500 Oh, tee-hee.
00:22:21.860 Oops, he did it again.
00:22:23.580 Trudeau broke
00:22:24.120 conflict of interest rules
00:22:25.360 in SNC-Lavalin.
00:22:26.340 I don't know if your watchdog
00:22:27.180 finds.
00:22:27.920 Oh, but he's so,
00:22:29.400 he's such a lovable lug.
00:22:30.880 Come here.
00:22:31.780 Let me give you a hug.
00:22:32.760 I can't stay mad at you.
00:22:35.020 Whoopsies.
00:22:35.440 It was just a little
00:22:36.120 whoopsies, people.
00:22:38.100 Here's the Toronto Star.
00:22:39.740 He broke rules.
00:22:41.360 No, no, no, no.
00:22:42.080 He didn't broke rules, mate.
00:22:43.380 He broke the law.
00:22:45.220 Why is the Toronto Star
00:22:46.320 using weasel words?
00:22:47.420 Oh, he broke some rules.
00:22:48.220 No big deal.
00:22:49.120 No, he broke the law.
00:22:50.460 The CBC is in full panic mode.
00:22:52.980 Look at this.
00:22:53.480 Right in the middle
00:22:53.920 of the whole thing.
00:22:54.600 They tweet something.
00:22:56.360 I don't know.
00:22:56.820 I mean, when their master
00:22:57.980 needs them to distract
00:22:59.640 the most, they go full tilt.
00:23:00.960 Here they are talking
00:23:01.620 about the New Zealand shooter.
00:23:04.020 Yeah, that's the ticket.
00:23:05.420 Oh, and Donald Trump,
00:23:06.980 orange man bad,
00:23:08.100 and pro-lifers are coming
00:23:09.740 with their unregistered guns.
00:23:11.900 Whatever it takes
00:23:13.200 to turn the channel from this.
00:23:14.420 That's the CBC state broadcaster.
00:23:16.000 They're in full damage control mode.
00:23:18.520 Look, I think it's big
00:23:20.100 what's going on.
00:23:20.920 Not the crime,
00:23:22.020 the actual corruption and bribes.
00:23:23.160 That is big.
00:23:24.780 Not the cover-up.
00:23:26.320 I mean, that is really big,
00:23:27.360 pressuring the Justice Minister
00:23:28.440 to break the law.
00:23:30.300 But the fact that the crime
00:23:31.440 has been uncovered
00:23:32.140 and the cover-up itself
00:23:33.320 has been revealed,
00:23:34.900 and that now we're just
00:23:36.280 in a staring contest
00:23:37.400 to see who will blink first.
00:23:39.900 That kind of staring contest
00:23:41.340 suggests that everyone
00:23:42.220 has the same moral code
00:23:44.040 because Justin Trudeau
00:23:44.920 and his corrupt boss
00:23:46.080 Gerald Butts,
00:23:46.600 they never blink.
00:23:48.500 So if we're just going
00:23:49.360 to stare at them,
00:23:50.020 they're not going
00:23:50.440 to blink people.
00:23:51.180 These are the people
00:23:52.580 who took a convicted terrorist
00:23:55.100 on their trip to India
00:23:56.060 and then blamed India.
00:23:58.900 These are the people
00:23:59.580 who put not one
00:24:00.360 but two Trudeau nannies
00:24:01.600 on the public payroll
00:24:02.600 and dared you to criticize them
00:24:04.600 and didn't care if you did.
00:24:06.460 Butts himself
00:24:07.560 showed his moral code,
00:24:09.300 his moral fiber,
00:24:10.500 by pocketing more than
00:24:11.340 a hundred grand
00:24:12.220 just to move from
00:24:13.000 Toronto to Ottawa.
00:24:14.360 They're corrupt.
00:24:15.040 They're the Libranos.
00:24:15.940 They're breaking the law.
00:24:17.060 And now,
00:24:18.060 that's not an opinion.
00:24:19.100 That's a legal finding of fact.
00:24:20.020 They broke the law.
00:24:21.160 And what are you going
00:24:21.780 to do about it?
00:24:23.620 The media will make
00:24:24.560 some jokes about it.
00:24:25.480 Whoopsies,
00:24:25.880 he did it again.
00:24:27.040 Maybe some of them
00:24:27.660 will even look to get in
00:24:29.480 on some of the action.
00:24:30.260 I mean,
00:24:30.380 maybe SNC-Lavalin
00:24:31.360 will throw them a few bucks
00:24:32.340 for some positive coverage
00:24:33.760 that seems to be
00:24:34.320 how they operate.
00:24:34.940 Maybe they can lobby
00:24:36.280 Trudeau and Morneau
00:24:37.180 and David Lamedi,
00:24:37.980 the disgraceful lawyer
00:24:38.840 who succeeded
00:24:39.400 Jody Wilson-Raybould.
00:24:40.620 Maybe they can get in on it,
00:24:41.700 get in on the take.
00:24:44.100 A healthy country
00:24:45.040 would morally demand
00:24:46.240 that a serial lawbreaker,
00:24:47.920 a corrupt crook,
00:24:48.660 like Trudeau resigned,
00:24:49.860 but I don't think
00:24:51.420 we're healthy as a country.
00:24:53.200 Not our media,
00:24:53.940 not our police,
00:24:54.820 not our political class,
00:24:56.000 not our lawyers,
00:24:56.940 not our courts.
00:24:57.580 A few examples
00:24:58.620 of moral exemplars,
00:24:59.640 to be sure.
00:25:00.320 Jody Wilson-Raybould,
00:25:01.280 Jane Philpott,
00:25:02.120 but they've been demonized
00:25:03.220 now by the establishment
00:25:04.160 for daring to stand up
00:25:05.180 to Trudeau.
00:25:06.160 I expect we'll see
00:25:07.360 attacks on Mario Dion,
00:25:09.260 the ethics commissioner,
00:25:10.180 as soon as tomorrow.
00:25:11.140 And then what?
00:25:13.160 Is that all?
00:25:13.800 Is that it?
00:25:14.400 That's the sad part.
00:25:16.140 I think this law-breaking,
00:25:17.980 corrupt little trust fund kid,
00:25:19.560 I think he's going to
00:25:21.840 get away with it.
00:25:23.720 What do you think?
00:25:25.900 Stay with us for more.
00:25:26.880 Well, this is a shocking report,
00:25:44.400 but not surprising.
00:25:45.860 Do you know what I mean by that?
00:25:46.960 I mean, I don't think
00:25:48.120 anyone was surprised
00:25:49.220 that what Jody Wilson-Raybould
00:25:50.400 and Jane Philpott
00:25:51.140 and others said
00:25:51.600 about Justin Trudeau
00:25:52.360 was in fact the truth
00:25:53.760 in his bald-faced denial
00:25:55.620 in the face of that original.
00:25:56.880 Globe and Mail article
00:25:57.900 was false.
00:25:58.540 I don't think that's surprising,
00:26:00.920 but it is shocking
00:26:01.680 to see the details confirmed
00:26:03.320 by a conflict of interest
00:26:05.900 and ethics commissioner.
00:26:06.980 And joining us now
00:26:07.480 via Skype from Edmonton
00:26:08.640 is our friend Lauren Gunter,
00:26:10.280 senior columnist
00:26:11.180 for the Edmonton Sun.
00:26:12.840 Lauren, you've had a chance
00:26:14.780 to go through the report
00:26:16.460 at least in a cursory manner.
00:26:19.540 Tell me your biggest takeaway
00:26:22.060 from the report
00:26:22.840 and then maybe tell us
00:26:23.740 some details that you thought
00:26:24.800 were most interesting.
00:26:25.940 Well, just one word
00:26:27.020 sums it up.
00:26:27.620 It's devastating.
00:26:28.360 It really is.
00:26:30.220 The ethics commissioner
00:26:31.340 Mario Dion says
00:26:32.440 that Trudeau
00:26:34.260 and people directed
00:26:35.360 by Trudeau
00:26:36.520 put undue pressure
00:26:39.040 on Wilson-Raybould
00:26:40.200 to overturn
00:26:44.020 a lawful decision
00:26:45.740 made by the independent
00:26:47.200 prosecutor's office.
00:26:48.820 They did it on many occasions.
00:26:50.680 They did it
00:26:51.140 in inappropriate ways
00:26:51.940 and that they put
00:26:54.320 at risk
00:26:54.960 the independence
00:26:55.860 of the court system
00:26:57.440 in Canada.
00:26:58.620 To me, that's devastating.
00:27:00.700 Now, I am articulating it
00:27:02.940 in a slightly less
00:27:04.000 bureaucratic way
00:27:05.000 than Dion's office did.
00:27:06.420 But nonetheless,
00:27:07.740 it's very obvious
00:27:09.260 from what's being said.
00:27:10.280 It's not you have to read
00:27:11.300 between the lines
00:27:11.940 or you have to figure it out.
00:27:12.900 He says,
00:27:13.540 on multiple occasions,
00:27:14.680 the prime minister directly
00:27:15.820 or people directed
00:27:16.960 by the prime minister
00:27:17.880 put unwarranted
00:27:19.340 an undue pressure
00:27:20.400 on the attorney general
00:27:21.540 to try and cover up
00:27:23.700 the SNC prosecution.
00:27:25.680 And I don't think
00:27:27.540 you can get much more
00:27:28.300 devastating than that.
00:27:29.880 Yeah.
00:27:30.280 Well, and the idea
00:27:31.340 of interfering
00:27:32.420 with the trial,
00:27:33.680 I mean, it's so unusual
00:27:35.020 to hear that
00:27:35.680 in a free country.
00:27:37.180 There's probably been
00:27:38.060 a thousand Hollywood movies
00:27:39.720 made of some mob boss
00:27:42.460 interfering with the trial
00:27:43.800 and how do they do it?
00:27:45.320 Well, maybe they can bribe
00:27:46.700 a judge or a prosecutor,
00:27:47.940 but more likely
00:27:49.040 they can bribe someone
00:27:50.100 on the jury.
00:27:51.360 But it's all dirty interference,
00:27:55.660 obviously illegal and criminal.
00:27:59.140 I mean, I can't help
00:28:00.620 but think of that scene
00:28:01.260 in The Godfather
00:28:02.080 where someone was going
00:28:04.680 to turn on the mob boss
00:28:06.240 and then they get to him
00:28:07.240 through threatening his family.
00:28:08.940 They bring his brother
00:28:09.560 in from Italy.
00:28:11.020 That's how it normally
00:28:12.560 looks in the movies.
00:28:14.320 It's a dirty criminal act
00:28:15.540 by a gang.
00:28:16.740 I think when it's orchestrated
00:28:19.020 through the lawful instruments
00:28:20.580 of the prime minister's office,
00:28:21.960 it's going to look
00:28:23.760 the way described
00:28:25.280 in this report.
00:28:26.100 I mean, there's no difference
00:28:27.580 in how,
00:28:28.760 in the goal,
00:28:30.140 stop the prosecution.
00:28:31.340 It's just,
00:28:32.160 it doesn't look grubby.
00:28:33.380 It looks lawyerly,
00:28:34.580 but it's still corrupt.
00:28:36.440 Yeah.
00:28:36.780 I think corrupt's
00:28:37.840 a good word for it too.
00:28:39.180 And, you know,
00:28:40.000 of course,
00:28:40.780 Trudeau is the first
00:28:42.100 prime minister
00:28:42.780 to have been found
00:28:45.060 in violation
00:28:46.800 of the ethics laws
00:28:48.580 for taking the free trip
00:28:51.480 to the Aga Khan's
00:28:53.320 private island
00:28:54.000 in the Bahamas.
00:28:55.140 Now he's the first
00:28:56.140 prime minister
00:28:56.640 to be found
00:28:57.180 in violation
00:28:57.860 of the ethics laws
00:28:58.840 for having done this
00:28:59.820 and the conflict
00:29:00.920 of interest laws
00:29:01.580 for having done this.
00:29:03.060 Anybody with any shame
00:29:04.740 would resign.
00:29:06.100 And you could bet
00:29:07.220 that already
00:29:08.000 online and on TV,
00:29:10.980 the CBC
00:29:11.600 and the Star
00:29:12.960 would have been
00:29:13.960 hollering
00:29:14.920 for Stephen Harper's
00:29:16.080 resignation
00:29:16.480 if this had happened
00:29:18.420 under a conservative.
00:29:19.380 If Andrew Scheer
00:29:20.000 becomes the prime minister
00:29:21.080 and something like this
00:29:21.920 happens to him,
00:29:22.680 they'll be the first
00:29:23.580 to shout that he must
00:29:24.660 step aside
00:29:25.580 for the good of the country.
00:29:26.640 They would already
00:29:27.300 have had,
00:29:27.900 like,
00:29:28.100 because they,
00:29:28.520 you know,
00:29:28.780 we all knew this report
00:29:29.900 was coming sometime this week.
00:29:31.360 They would already
00:29:32.200 have had lined up
00:29:33.300 their constitutional experts
00:29:34.840 and political scientists
00:29:35.940 who would say
00:29:36.300 it's not possible
00:29:37.840 for a prime minister
00:29:38.700 so badly damaged
00:29:40.220 by these accusations
00:29:41.920 to continue in office.
00:29:43.780 But will you see
00:29:44.700 any of that
00:29:45.400 around Trudeau?
00:29:46.460 No.
00:29:47.200 And Trudeau has no shame
00:29:48.160 and I don't think
00:29:48.820 he has a lot of intellect
00:29:49.620 so he probably
00:29:50.660 will not resign.
00:29:51.720 In fact,
00:29:52.140 he definitely won't resign.
00:29:53.560 Yeah.
00:29:53.980 Well, you know,
00:29:54.580 I'm already looking
00:29:55.340 at some of the headlines
00:29:56.320 by the Star
00:29:59.160 and the CBC.
00:30:00.160 He broke the rules.
00:30:02.160 No, no.
00:30:02.620 They weren't rules.
00:30:03.580 They were the
00:30:03.980 Conflict of Interest Act.
00:30:05.200 He broke the law.
00:30:06.840 Oh, he went outside
00:30:08.200 the guidelines.
00:30:09.260 Like, they're using
00:30:09.840 the most minimalistic language
00:30:11.140 that's not even accurate.
00:30:12.760 I compare that
00:30:13.720 to the year-and-a-half-long mania
00:30:15.780 over the accusation
00:30:17.560 that Mike Duffy
00:30:18.380 expensed too much in travel
00:30:21.380 and so Nigel Wright
00:30:22.420 just cut a check
00:30:23.480 to the government
00:30:23.900 to make it good.
00:30:24.800 That turned into
00:30:25.620 a year-and-a-half-long
00:30:26.340 criminal trial
00:30:27.860 of which there was
00:30:28.980 no conventions in the end.
00:30:30.380 But holy cow,
00:30:31.360 were there calls
00:30:31.800 for resignations.
00:30:32.660 Let me ask you a question,
00:30:33.500 Harper must have known.
00:30:35.460 And that was the theme
00:30:36.780 throughout the investigation
00:30:38.800 and the trial.
00:30:40.180 I remember when
00:30:40.720 the RCMP's report
00:30:41.780 into the Duffy scandal
00:30:43.920 came out
00:30:44.540 and the questioning
00:30:46.260 went on
00:30:46.800 in the House of Commons.
00:30:48.260 It was always about,
00:30:49.240 well,
00:30:49.780 there's nothing in this report
00:30:50.960 that says Harper
00:30:51.720 knew anything about this,
00:30:53.240 but he must have known.
00:30:54.280 Surely he must have known
00:30:55.140 what his chief of staff
00:30:56.020 was doing.
00:30:56.640 And therefore,
00:30:57.360 he's guilty by association
00:30:58.720 and must resign.
00:30:59.520 Well,
00:31:00.260 this is a report
00:31:01.560 that says
00:31:02.280 the prime minister
00:31:03.480 was in violation
00:31:04.540 of Section 9
00:31:06.020 of the Conflict of Interests Act.
00:31:08.280 Yeah.
00:31:08.700 And will he resign?
00:31:10.760 No.
00:31:11.540 Yeah.
00:31:11.940 Well,
00:31:12.280 and,
00:31:13.060 you know,
00:31:13.680 I understand
00:31:14.440 the allegation
00:31:15.600 that maybe Mike Duffy
00:31:16.520 padded his expenses.
00:31:17.960 I don't know if he did.
00:31:19.260 He wasn't convicted
00:31:20.060 of doing so.
00:31:21.080 But the reason
00:31:22.580 there was a whole trial there
00:31:24.200 was that allegedly
00:31:25.720 Nigel Wright,
00:31:26.600 by paying the money back
00:31:28.040 anyways,
00:31:29.440 had committed
00:31:30.400 some sort of bribery.
00:31:31.760 Like,
00:31:31.880 I don't even think
00:31:33.120 90% of Canadians,
00:31:34.940 if you put it to them that way,
00:31:36.480 would understand
00:31:37.400 what the alleged crime was.
00:31:39.660 And what,
00:31:40.500 you will remember
00:31:42.060 that I worked
00:31:42.780 for the leader
00:31:43.280 of the government
00:31:43.800 in the Senate
00:31:44.460 in the 1980s.
00:31:46.320 And what Mike Duffy
00:31:47.520 was doing
00:31:47.980 was what many,
00:31:49.460 many,
00:31:49.700 many senators
00:31:50.320 were doing then
00:31:51.120 and since,
00:31:52.140 and that was
00:31:52.980 claiming to be
00:31:54.100 a resident
00:31:54.620 of his original
00:31:55.780 home province
00:31:57.120 while actually
00:31:57.980 being a resident
00:31:58.720 of Ottawa
00:31:59.360 and then writing off
00:32:00.800 the Ottawa residents
00:32:02.060 as his away-from-home
00:32:03.820 residents,
00:32:04.680 as his,
00:32:05.080 his government-paid
00:32:06.940 accommodations
00:32:07.640 when he had to be away,
00:32:09.120 well,
00:32:09.340 he hadn't lived in PEI
00:32:10.380 in 40 years,
00:32:11.500 but he was claiming
00:32:12.960 that he did
00:32:13.540 and expensing
00:32:14.720 his Ottawa residents.
00:32:16.340 That's scummy.
00:32:17.740 There's no question about it.
00:32:18.780 It shouldn't be allowed.
00:32:20.460 But we're not talking here
00:32:22.340 about threatening
00:32:23.620 the independence
00:32:24.460 of the prosecutorial system
00:32:26.720 in Canada,
00:32:27.780 threatening
00:32:28.160 the judicial system
00:32:30.360 in Canada
00:32:30.960 by putting undue pressure
00:32:32.580 on an attorney general,
00:32:34.180 which is what Trudeau
00:32:35.240 and Butts
00:32:35.720 and others
00:32:36.260 who are named
00:32:36.820 in this report
00:32:37.420 have done.
00:32:38.080 Right.
00:32:38.320 Well,
00:32:38.560 and so Nigel Wright's
00:32:40.340 solution to this problem
00:32:41.560 was cut a check
00:32:43.500 to the government
00:32:44.080 to fix it.
00:32:45.160 That's what spurred
00:32:46.380 the whole RCMP action,
00:32:50.260 I think.
00:32:51.280 and compare that
00:32:54.740 to massive fraud,
00:32:58.780 bribery,
00:32:59.540 corruption in Libya.
00:33:01.400 And we know
00:33:01.780 SNC-Lavalin
00:33:02.560 has corrupted
00:33:03.320 the bidding process
00:33:04.620 here in North America too,
00:33:05.780 including in Canada,
00:33:06.500 including in Montreal.
00:33:07.620 And so I'm saying
00:33:09.180 the underlying problem,
00:33:12.240 okay,
00:33:12.440 Nigel Wright cut a check
00:33:13.540 to the government
00:33:14.080 of 90 grand,
00:33:15.460 SNC-Lavalin
00:33:16.800 paid tens of millions
00:33:18.060 of dollars in bribes
00:33:19.040 to corrupt the...
00:33:19.800 So the underlying crime
00:33:21.140 is spectacularly
00:33:22.920 more devastating
00:33:24.180 in the SNC-Lavalin case.
00:33:25.740 And the prime minister
00:33:26.480 himself led
00:33:27.700 a long,
00:33:28.760 months-long process
00:33:29.960 to undermine
00:33:30.720 a prosecution.
00:33:32.260 My question to you,
00:33:33.280 Lorne,
00:33:33.440 is where's the cops?
00:33:35.020 We've had five
00:33:35.980 attorneys general,
00:33:37.540 former attorneys general
00:33:39.200 of provinces
00:33:39.820 and the feds,
00:33:41.520 say,
00:33:42.020 RCMP,
00:33:42.640 you need to investigate.
00:33:43.980 We see this conviction
00:33:45.100 now by the Conflict
00:33:46.140 of Interest Act
00:33:46.820 commissioner.
00:33:47.240 We now know
00:33:48.820 more of the underlying facts.
00:33:50.900 If the RCMP
00:33:51.600 will go to war
00:33:52.420 over Nigel Wright
00:33:54.000 chipping in 90 grand
00:33:55.620 to make things even,
00:33:56.660 where's the RCMP
00:33:57.680 here, Lorne?
00:33:58.900 And I would say
00:34:00.400 the RCMP
00:34:00.840 did the right thing
00:34:01.700 in the Nigel Wright case
00:34:02.780 in investigating it
00:34:03.800 because,
00:34:04.400 you know,
00:34:04.860 you couldn't tell
00:34:05.540 whether or not
00:34:06.200 on the face of it
00:34:07.360 whether or not
00:34:07.980 the illegality
00:34:09.180 had happened,
00:34:09.640 so that's what
00:34:09.940 the RCMP does.
00:34:12.020 But should it also
00:34:13.820 happen in this one?
00:34:14.620 Well,
00:34:14.720 we already know
00:34:15.320 that somebody's
00:34:15.940 broken the law
00:34:16.680 and his name
00:34:17.120 is Justin Trudeau.
00:34:18.140 I mean,
00:34:18.400 but I think the irony
00:34:19.460 in all of this,
00:34:20.000 and this came out
00:34:20.780 two or three weeks ago,
00:34:22.040 the finance minister
00:34:23.580 in Quebec
00:34:24.520 said that
00:34:26.040 after SNC
00:34:28.380 announced that
00:34:28.880 it was going to do
00:34:29.340 a big corporate
00:34:29.980 shake-up
00:34:30.800 and restructure
00:34:31.560 and lots of jobs
00:34:32.880 were going to be lost
00:34:33.700 and they were going
00:34:34.360 to get out
00:34:34.740 of big infrastructure
00:34:37.220 programs
00:34:37.820 across the country
00:34:38.680 for a while,
00:34:39.760 he said,
00:34:41.080 yeah,
00:34:41.180 we're not paying
00:34:41.660 any money towards
00:34:42.360 these guys
00:34:42.800 to keep them afloat.
00:34:43.600 This whole thing
00:34:44.940 was based on
00:34:45.720 the Trudeau government
00:34:46.840 deciding that
00:34:47.600 we had to do
00:34:48.220 everything as a country
00:34:49.400 that we possibly could,
00:34:50.760 including going easy
00:34:52.700 on a criminal act,
00:34:53.840 a potential criminal act
00:34:54.920 of bribery.
00:34:56.000 We had to do
00:34:56.520 everything we could
00:34:57.300 as a country
00:34:57.760 to keep SNC happy
00:34:58.960 so they would stay
00:34:59.740 in Montreal
00:35:00.180 and they would continue
00:35:01.260 to employ thousands
00:35:02.180 of Quebecers
00:35:02.880 and the Quebec government
00:35:04.140 won't even do that.
00:35:04.880 Yeah.
00:35:05.320 And by the way,
00:35:06.340 of course,
00:35:06.620 SNC-Lavalin
00:35:07.300 just did a major renovation
00:35:08.600 and renewed their lease
00:35:09.460 in Montreal.
00:35:10.020 They're not going anywhere.
00:35:11.280 I just,
00:35:13.180 you know,
00:35:13.760 a lot of the rule of law
00:35:15.100 depends on the consent
00:35:17.460 of the governed,
00:35:18.700 the consent of the people
00:35:19.420 to go along
00:35:20.040 with the rules.
00:35:21.100 I mean,
00:35:21.740 in some ways,
00:35:23.080 all law depends
00:35:24.360 on the compliant agreement
00:35:26.280 of citizens
00:35:27.680 because if every single citizen
00:35:29.840 decided one day
00:35:30.840 to do something illegal,
00:35:32.080 there just aren't enough
00:35:32.740 cops and courts
00:35:33.480 to enforce it.
00:35:34.540 So we have to agree
00:35:36.060 to abide by the rules.
00:35:37.580 And so when there's something
00:35:38.340 as stunning as this report,
00:35:39.900 in a responsible democracy,
00:35:42.320 you would see resignations
00:35:44.120 in the name of honor.
00:35:44.980 And you still see that
00:35:45.740 in places like Korea,
00:35:47.500 Japan.
00:35:48.240 You see politicians
00:35:50.040 groveling and saying,
00:35:51.240 I have let you down
00:35:52.020 and disgraced my family
00:35:52.900 and my name.
00:35:54.260 In a way,
00:35:55.280 Jody Wilson-Raybould
00:35:56.200 was living after
00:35:57.520 that very high moral standard
00:35:59.040 for herself
00:36:00.320 and Jane Philpott
00:36:01.340 even more so.
00:36:02.780 The problem with
00:36:03.800 Justin Trudeau
00:36:04.480 and Gerald Butts
00:36:05.380 is they're amoral
00:36:06.620 and they'll never
00:36:10.040 step down
00:36:10.880 unless forced
00:36:11.700 and they'll brazen it out
00:36:13.060 and they tempt others
00:36:14.560 to say,
00:36:15.020 oh, this is the new normal now
00:36:16.260 or we don't have to go along
00:36:17.800 with the rules now
00:36:18.600 or the rules don't apply now.
00:36:20.240 That's what I'm worried about.
00:36:21.580 They are benighted
00:36:23.420 progressives
00:36:25.260 and they have convinced
00:36:27.160 themselves
00:36:27.800 that no one else
00:36:30.160 sees things
00:36:31.840 with as much compassion
00:36:32.940 and wisdom
00:36:33.560 and justice
00:36:34.320 as they do.
00:36:35.780 So therefore,
00:36:36.680 we have to stop
00:36:38.120 any criticism of them
00:36:40.140 that might threaten
00:36:42.180 their existence in power
00:36:43.900 because only they are qualified
00:36:46.000 to do this.
00:36:47.320 It's not as,
00:36:48.560 you know,
00:36:48.820 in their own minds,
00:36:49.540 it's not as though
00:36:50.080 they're malicious.
00:36:51.180 It's just that,
00:36:51.840 my God,
00:36:52.420 could you imagine
00:36:53.300 if this criticism continues
00:36:55.240 and Andrew Scheer
00:36:56.640 becomes the prime minister,
00:36:57.800 then all of the great things
00:36:59.260 that we are doing,
00:37:00.140 which are
00:37:00.820 exactly the same,
00:37:03.000 fit exactly tightly
00:37:04.480 with the national interest
00:37:05.420 in their minds.
00:37:06.520 All of these great things
00:37:07.640 we are doing
00:37:08.040 to save Canada
00:37:08.960 and save the planet,
00:37:10.080 they will go out the window.
00:37:11.740 So what we do,
00:37:13.440 while it may be
00:37:13.940 a little rough at times,
00:37:15.060 it's fully justified
00:37:16.100 because the alternative
00:37:17.660 is worse.
00:37:18.360 Yeah.
00:37:19.020 Yeah,
00:37:19.440 that's,
00:37:19.960 it's sort of like
00:37:20.680 how feminists
00:37:21.540 would defend Bill Clinton
00:37:22.800 despite all of his
00:37:24.320 sexual harassment
00:37:25.120 and even credible claims
00:37:26.340 of rape
00:37:26.820 and Teddy Kennedy,
00:37:28.960 rapist,
00:37:30.440 sexual harasser,
00:37:31.860 murderer of Mary Jo Kopechny,
00:37:34.100 they said,
00:37:34.720 well,
00:37:34.960 you know,
00:37:35.560 they may be awful,
00:37:36.680 but they do so much good.
00:37:38.360 We have to,
00:37:39.000 I mean,
00:37:39.360 I think that Bill Clinton
00:37:40.420 killed the feminist movement
00:37:42.600 for a decade
00:37:43.660 because they basically said
00:37:45.120 we're going to do
00:37:45.520 a trade-off here
00:37:46.240 and the liberals
00:37:47.080 are asking
00:37:47.740 their side of the aisle
00:37:49.840 to do the same thing.
00:37:50.780 Yeah,
00:37:51.140 sure,
00:37:51.420 we're corrupt.
00:37:52.460 Sure,
00:37:52.660 we feather our nest.
00:37:53.600 Sure,
00:37:54.040 we're at the trough,
00:37:54.960 but we're not evil
00:37:56.420 like Andrew Scheer
00:37:57.600 and I wonder
00:37:58.840 if they'll get away with it.
00:37:59.640 Let me ask you this,
00:38:00.380 Lorne,
00:38:01.300 when the first four convictions
00:38:02.880 under the Conflict of Interest Act
00:38:04.260 happened,
00:38:04.940 it was the trip
00:38:05.940 to Billionaire's Island
00:38:06.960 by the Aga Khan
00:38:07.760 and you know
00:38:09.140 that Gerald Butts
00:38:09.820 and Trudeau knew
00:38:10.500 it was wrong
00:38:10.900 because they kept it secret.
00:38:12.180 If you don't think
00:38:12.680 you're doing anything wrong,
00:38:13.400 you don't try and hide it
00:38:14.120 and cover it up.
00:38:14.940 Yeah.
00:38:15.320 But that was before
00:38:16.780 Trudeau's Teflon
00:38:19.940 was blown off
00:38:21.140 by this
00:38:21.660 SNC-Lavalin matter.
00:38:22.960 So Trudeau really got away
00:38:24.500 with those first
00:38:25.360 four convictions
00:38:26.180 no problem.
00:38:27.460 The difference here
00:38:28.520 is that since February
00:38:30.040 he hasn't had
00:38:30.860 that Teflon anymore.
00:38:32.040 He's actually been
00:38:32.700 trailing in most polls.
00:38:34.660 Do you think
00:38:35.300 this will make
00:38:35.940 a bigger dent
00:38:36.760 or has the market
00:38:38.280 already accounted
00:38:40.040 for this news?
00:38:41.780 Well,
00:38:42.140 I honestly think
00:38:43.100 the Liberals
00:38:43.500 have been bouncing back
00:38:44.380 the last few months.
00:38:45.380 I think that
00:38:46.300 their scare campaigns
00:38:47.740 are working.
00:38:48.960 They're,
00:38:49.460 you know,
00:38:49.820 okay,
00:38:50.380 just exactly what you said,
00:38:51.620 we're bad,
00:38:52.400 but the alternative
00:38:53.400 is way worse.
00:38:54.260 So stick with us.
00:38:56.120 Hold your nose
00:38:56.840 and vote liberal.
00:38:58.200 And, you know,
00:38:59.120 they're going to play up
00:39:00.080 gun control,
00:39:01.100 it sounds like,
00:39:01.920 in the coming election.
00:39:03.220 They're certainly
00:39:03.860 going to play up
00:39:04.600 climate change,
00:39:06.120 which, you know,
00:39:07.420 they basically created
00:39:08.780 a moral panic
00:39:09.800 over climate change.
00:39:12.000 And they're going to claim
00:39:13.500 on the social side
00:39:14.920 that Andrew Scheer
00:39:16.960 is a closet gay basher.
00:39:18.960 And so they're going
00:39:20.920 to do all those things
00:39:22.340 that are markers
00:39:23.800 for progressive voters
00:39:25.100 around the country
00:39:26.020 in order to frighten people
00:39:28.720 to stay in the liberal base.
00:39:30.380 And I think
00:39:30.800 it will largely work.
00:39:32.700 I mean,
00:39:33.000 some people will probably
00:39:34.700 get fed up
00:39:37.040 with the scandals
00:39:37.920 who otherwise
00:39:39.060 would vote liberal
00:39:39.680 and will vote green
00:39:40.660 or maybe NDP.
00:39:42.500 But by and large,
00:39:43.520 I worry,
00:39:44.500 because if you look
00:39:45.280 at the regional breakdowns
00:39:46.980 of polls,
00:39:47.720 not just the overall
00:39:48.840 national polls,
00:39:50.300 the conservatives
00:39:51.300 have highly concentrated
00:39:53.220 support
00:39:54.700 in the prairie provinces
00:39:56.100 and the interior of B.C.
00:39:58.060 But the liberals
00:39:58.880 have very good support
00:40:00.160 in Montreal,
00:40:01.940 Ottawa,
00:40:02.760 Toronto,
00:40:03.340 that whole golden horseshoe
00:40:04.900 around Toronto,
00:40:05.780 and the lower mainland of B.C.,
00:40:07.140 which is almost enough
00:40:08.020 by itself,
00:40:08.900 all those put together
00:40:10.040 to win a majority.
00:40:12.080 I think they'll get
00:40:12.600 a solid minority.
00:40:13.560 That's my prediction
00:40:14.200 right now.
00:40:15.300 Well, very interesting.
00:40:16.040 It'll just be interesting
00:40:19.400 to see all those
00:40:20.500 ethical keepers
00:40:21.980 of the flame,
00:40:22.540 the ones who freaked out
00:40:23.540 over Bevo
00:40:24.020 at $16 orange juice,
00:40:26.540 the ones who jumped
00:40:27.640 on every pretend foible
00:40:29.240 of Stephen Hopper,
00:40:30.820 the excuse-ology
00:40:32.100 we're going to see
00:40:32.760 in the day.
00:40:33.040 I think it's going to be
00:40:33.560 a combination.
00:40:34.840 Wall-to-wall stories
00:40:35.860 at the CBC
00:40:36.520 about Islamophobia,
00:40:38.440 orange man bad,
00:40:40.980 Andrew Scheer's coming
00:40:41.920 for your abortion rights.
00:40:43.360 I've been away
00:40:47.180 the last weekend.
00:40:48.460 There was some sort
00:40:49.580 of racist rant
00:40:50.660 on a video
00:40:51.300 with a woman
00:40:51.980 holding up a vote
00:40:53.000 Scheer sign
00:40:53.860 or something.
00:40:54.780 Yeah, the whole thing
00:40:55.200 was a hoax.
00:40:55.960 It was a fake.
00:40:57.540 Yeah, well,
00:40:58.040 we expect a lot
00:40:59.160 more of that.
00:40:59.940 Yeah.
00:41:00.820 Well, Lauren,
00:41:01.900 I'm impressed
00:41:03.460 with this report,
00:41:04.420 but it only goes so far.
00:41:05.620 It's toothless.
00:41:07.280 I think Bob Fyfe
00:41:08.460 and the Globe and Mail
00:41:09.120 are energized by it.
00:41:10.340 It confirms everything
00:41:11.020 they ever said.
00:41:12.140 So at least there's
00:41:12.840 one journalist
00:41:13.400 who's going to keep at this.
00:41:14.440 I sense you are.
00:41:15.240 We will.
00:41:16.440 It'll be interesting
00:41:17.320 to see what I call
00:41:18.360 the media party,
00:41:19.160 what they will do.
00:41:20.240 I wonder,
00:41:21.100 because I think
00:41:21.740 they just love Trudeau
00:41:23.000 too much.
00:41:23.560 They'll forgive
00:41:24.080 that lovable old
00:41:25.080 lug anything.
00:41:25.760 We'll find out
00:41:26.440 in the months ahead.
00:41:27.480 It's what,
00:41:28.040 75 days till the election?
00:41:29.380 We'll know soon enough.
00:41:30.120 Yes, and you wait.
00:41:31.780 There are going to be
00:41:32.260 lots of ads
00:41:33.180 morphing
00:41:33.800 Andrew Scheer's face
00:41:35.640 into Doug Ford's face
00:41:36.940 because that's where
00:41:37.560 they think
00:41:38.000 that their votes lie.
00:41:39.460 Yeah, you're so right.
00:41:40.460 All right, great to see you,
00:41:41.220 Lauren.
00:41:41.300 Thanks for your time.
00:41:42.680 You bet.
00:41:43.120 All right, there's our friend
00:41:43.800 Lauren Gunter,
00:41:44.400 senior columnist
00:41:45.180 for the Edmonton Sun.
00:41:46.620 Stay with us.
00:41:47.420 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:41:59.080 Hey, welcome back
00:42:00.020 on my monologue yesterday
00:42:01.040 about a fake news hoax
00:42:02.580 about Andrew Scheer
00:42:03.460 being promoted
00:42:04.020 by the mainstream media
00:42:05.640 Liza writes.
00:42:07.360 Talia Davidson
00:42:07.960 didn't sound like
00:42:08.940 any conservative I know.
00:42:10.100 They don't talk
00:42:10.600 or act like that.
00:42:12.000 Well, it's not just
00:42:12.500 that she didn't sound
00:42:13.120 like a conservative.
00:42:14.720 No one who is sane
00:42:16.340 would think that
00:42:17.160 swearing, shouting,
00:42:18.420 insulting, spitting
00:42:19.200 at someone
00:42:19.800 wins votes.
00:42:21.240 So if you have a sign
00:42:22.120 saying,
00:42:22.720 vote Andrew Scheer
00:42:23.720 while doing something
00:42:24.760 you know is extremely bad,
00:42:26.840 everyone knows
00:42:27.680 that's a fake.
00:42:28.880 Everyone knows
00:42:29.420 that's a fake.
00:42:29.840 It reminds me
00:42:30.300 of a story
00:42:31.260 some Democrat
00:42:33.040 politicians told out.
00:42:34.480 I can't even remember
00:42:34.980 who, but it's very funny.
00:42:36.260 He said he used to,
00:42:37.540 this Democrat,
00:42:38.860 he used to,
00:42:39.400 when he rode taxis,
00:42:41.080 leave a huge tip
00:42:42.540 and say,
00:42:43.660 vote Democrat.
00:42:45.820 But one day
00:42:46.860 he wised up
00:42:47.960 and he left
00:42:49.220 no tip
00:42:50.440 and said,
00:42:51.820 vote Republican.
00:42:53.080 you see my point?
00:42:55.800 If your conduct
00:42:56.780 is irritating
00:42:57.640 and annoying,
00:42:59.120 you put a false flag up.
00:43:01.480 No one believes
00:43:02.740 that Talia Davidson
00:43:04.640 really wanted people
00:43:06.220 to vote for Scheer
00:43:07.080 because you don't spit
00:43:08.240 at someone
00:43:08.920 when you're trying
00:43:09.680 to get their vote.
00:43:10.460 Only the media party
00:43:11.500 was stupid enough
00:43:12.280 to believe that.
00:43:14.960 Revelation writes,
00:43:16.820 Ezra's 100% right
00:43:17.760 when he says
00:43:18.220 it's a leftist
00:43:18.920 stereotypical view
00:43:19.820 of a conservative.
00:43:20.720 That's the success
00:43:21.500 of the left-wing media.
00:43:22.600 I've run into it
00:43:23.260 many times
00:43:23.740 around the internet.
00:43:24.940 Yeah, that's the thing
00:43:25.620 is that,
00:43:26.440 I mean,
00:43:26.700 we've talked about this before.
00:43:28.340 If you're right-wing,
00:43:29.920 you have had to
00:43:31.180 get used to liberal thinking,
00:43:33.900 liberal people
00:43:34.520 because you're surrounded by it
00:43:35.440 no matter where you are
00:43:36.060 in the world.
00:43:36.840 You're inundated
00:43:37.520 by the popular culture.
00:43:38.600 You can be in the most
00:43:39.400 right-wing district
00:43:40.900 in Canada
00:43:41.560 or the United States
00:43:42.280 anywhere.
00:43:42.700 You're going to get
00:43:43.160 your left-wing dose.
00:43:44.440 But there are many leftists
00:43:45.520 who are in an impermeable barrier
00:43:49.040 who have never met
00:43:50.220 a conservative,
00:43:50.820 who have never met
00:43:51.980 anyone other than
00:43:53.980 their class and caste.
00:43:55.860 And so they have
00:43:56.700 only this caricature
00:43:57.720 of the right.
00:43:58.460 I think that's what
00:43:58.940 we saw there.
00:44:00.700 On my interview
00:44:01.200 with Gordon Chang,
00:44:02.620 Paul writes,
00:44:03.860 China cannot be trusted.
00:44:05.000 Taiwan is no doubt
00:44:05.840 taking note of what's
00:44:06.500 going on in Hong Kong.
00:44:07.700 Give up any sovereignty
00:44:08.640 to China today
00:44:09.420 and you'll be giving up
00:44:10.380 lives tomorrow.
00:44:11.560 Yeah, I'm really nervous
00:44:12.580 about these trucks
00:44:13.380 mustering on the Hong Kong border.
00:44:15.660 I can't believe
00:44:16.640 they would destroy
00:44:17.320 such a jewel.
00:44:17.920 Hong Kong is one of the,
00:44:20.200 I mean,
00:44:20.720 in some ways
00:44:22.000 it's not comparable
00:44:23.000 to London,
00:44:24.200 Paris,
00:44:25.220 New York,
00:44:26.320 but in other ways
00:44:27.260 it is.
00:44:28.060 It's a remarkable city.
00:44:29.460 It's a huge city.
00:44:30.320 It's a developed city.
00:44:31.280 It's a cultural city.
00:44:33.080 It's a historic city.
00:44:35.080 It's a brilliant city.
00:44:36.720 It's a commercially
00:44:37.460 powerful city.
00:44:38.960 To wreck it
00:44:40.260 in a kind of civil war,
00:44:41.960 which is what
00:44:42.420 China's threatening,
00:44:43.760 it's unthinkable.
00:44:45.840 It's unthinkable
00:44:46.540 to do that
00:44:47.100 to yourself.
00:44:49.140 I don't know,
00:44:49.620 but I think China
00:44:50.300 would crush anything
00:44:51.120 and anyone
00:44:51.640 that threatened their power.
00:44:54.140 Well, that's our show
00:44:54.800 for today.
00:44:55.820 Until tomorrow,
00:44:56.640 on behalf of all of us
00:44:57.440 here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:44:58.600 see you at home.
00:44:59.280 Good night,
00:44:59.800 and keep fighting for freedom.
00:45:00.620 Thank you.
00:45:15.880 Thank you.
00:45:16.620 Good night.
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00:45:18.240 Good night.
00:45:18.800 Good night.
00:45:19.400 Good night.
00:45:21.060 Jump Sunday.
00:45:22.880 Good night.
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