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00:12:02.340Well, that's President Donald Trump yesterday speaking out against the two mass murder shooting sprees, one in El Paso, Texas, the other in Ohio.
00:12:14.320He focused in particular on one manifesto allegedly published by the Texan murderer that claimed to be inspired by racist anti-immigrant sentiment.
00:12:32.600Although in other regards, that shooter claimed to be a leftist.
00:12:36.100But it doesn't mention the Ohio shooter who was a down-the-line Democrat, an active supporter of the Democratic candidate Elizabeth Warren.
00:12:46.480And someone who mimicked the language of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calling the ICE, the immigration police in the United States, saying their detention facilities were similar to concentration camps.
00:12:58.480Well, did Donald Trump manage to avoid being called a racist murderer supporter himself by saying what so many were glad he did say?
00:13:08.840Well, let me refer you to today's story by Joel Pollack of Breitbart.com.
00:13:55.820But what was the result of his comments yesterday?
00:14:00.080Did anyone soften their heart towards Trump on it?
00:14:03.540Yes, but most of them were conservatives or Republicans.
00:14:08.800Many of the calls for him to say something were coming from Republicans.
00:14:12.480And I think by making that statement, he gave a lot of Republicans confidence to stick with him on the other issues here, which are immigration and gun control.
00:14:22.700And I think that had he not said something, he would have seen some more serious defections from his own party, not because they believe the president is a racist, but because the media pressure is simply massive.
00:14:32.700I have actually never seen anything like this.
00:14:34.680The media are running a 24-hour round-the-clock campaign to demonize Trump and Trump supporters.
00:14:40.180So it's remarkable that he's held his coalition together as well as he has.
00:14:44.800I think people understand that the other side has overstepped the mark, that they've jumped the shark, so to speak.
00:14:51.560Beto O'Rourke telling Trump he can't come to El Paso.
00:14:54.300People taking cheap shots at the president.
00:14:56.120People saying that he had something to do with this shooting in El Paso, which he clearly did not.
00:14:59.980Even the shooter in his manifesto said that Trump did not, and yet they're blaming Trump.
00:15:04.980The argument, according to National Public Radio, which is publicly funded, nevertheless, they have said that Trump is responsible for the mass shootings because he used the word invasion to describe hundreds of thousands of people coming across the border illegally every month.
00:15:19.900And the shooter in El Paso also used the word invasion.
00:15:24.100Now, the shooter also talked about environmental catastrophe and talked about things like a basic income grant.
00:15:57.620So there's a case to be made, perhaps, for laws that allow someone's firearms to be taken away if they show mental health problems, if there are complaints about them and so forth.
00:16:05.960Those laws can be abused, but I think you can provide enough safeguards.
00:16:08.840And several states have such laws already.
00:16:10.980The issue here is that nobody's making a big deal out of the Ohio shooter's radical left-wing views, and he echoed a lot of the crazy things that have been said by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and other Democratic politicians, like calling the migrant facilities at the border concentration camps and so on.
00:16:27.760He's echoed a lot of their rhetoric, but no one's making an issue out of that.
00:16:31.020What's going on right now is two things.
00:16:34.080First of all, it's the usual media bias.
00:16:35.800This is the media and Hollywood trying to get the country into a frenzy to blame Donald Trump for these shootings.
00:16:41.500They have an open mic at the moment to do it.
00:16:44.200They have elected officials who are repeating this.
00:16:47.120The mayor of Dayton is a Democrat, mayor of El Paso, representatives from El Paso, a very democratic city, even though Texas overall is fairly conservative.
00:16:53.760They have that platform, and they're using it because this is all about getting rid of Trump in 2020.
00:16:59.780The second thing that's happening is a much more profound problem, and that is that this country cannot yet decide what to do about illegal immigration, that we tried one method under Obama, which is essentially a creeping amnesty, making more and more people legal in the United States,
00:17:18.180even if they came here illegally, and trying to come up with solutions that allow millions more who entered illegally or overstayed their visas to stay here before there's any sort of border security to make sure it doesn't happen again.
00:17:30.280So Obama basically tried one approach.
00:17:33.020Trump's trying a different approach, which is to build a wall, enforce the law, prevent people from claiming asylum when they don't really deserve it, closing loopholes and all that sort of thing.
00:17:42.120The country has recoiled in some ways because of the media, but has recoiled against seeing those laws enforced.
00:17:48.180We hear reports from Democrats about kids in cages and all of that.
00:17:51.940And so the country has really had a standstill over this issue, and it's become something that divides the parties, that if you want the law enforced, you're a Republican.
00:17:59.020If you don't want it enforced, you're a Democrat.
00:18:00.460There's also partisan interest working there because Democrats like the idea of growing their voter base by admitting more and more illegal aliens who will then owe a debt of allegiance to the Democratic Party for legalizing them in the United States.
00:18:25.220It's called multicultural millenarianism.
00:18:27.940It's the belief that we will finally see the progressive utopia once the white electorate has been outnumbered.
00:18:34.160And you see that in statements like Nancy Pelosi saying that Donald Trump's ideology really is make America white again.
00:18:40.060She's the one who introduces race into the conversation.
00:18:42.640And the implication is that they have a different racial agenda.
00:18:45.160It's a terrible thing to say, and maybe that's not her complete intention.
00:18:48.940But certainly she's signaling that Democrats expect a more demographically diverse future to be one that's better politically for them.
00:18:56.220So many Republicans suspect, and I think rightly so, that Democrats are reluctant to do anything about illegal immigration because they see all these illegal aliens as future voters.
00:19:04.260So you have a border on the south end of the United States, on the edge of the country that actually runs through the country.
00:19:10.900Essentially, the U.S.-Mexico border is a fault line now in American politics.
00:19:15.500And the parties are determined to fight this one out.
00:19:20.960You might think that through a process of learning over the decades, we might have found that compromise.
00:19:25.180And actually, the compromise is pretty obvious.
00:19:26.820You create border security first so that you never have to do any more amnesty.
00:19:32.020And then you decide who among the 11 million, maybe 20, 30 million people in the country illegally deserves to stay or should be given a chance to prove they deserve to stay.
00:19:41.100You can sort that out once you make sure there's no more people coming in illegally.
00:19:46.520They don't want to have that process happen in that order.
00:19:48.720They want the legal status to happen first.
00:19:50.600So there's no pressure at all to secure the southern border.
00:19:53.160In fact, all the Democratic presidential candidates, with a few moderate exceptions, are talking about decriminalizing the act of crossing the border illegally.
00:20:01.180They want free health care for illegal aliens.
00:20:03.240These are the ideas dominating the Democratic Party.
00:20:05.220They want to create more incentives for people to come.
00:20:07.360They don't want to enforce the border.
00:20:08.720They don't want a wall or a physical barrier on the border.
00:20:10.820They think the answer to this migration crisis is shoveling more money to the corrupt governments in Central America that can't govern themselves.
00:20:19.840Essentially, we have Democrats believing in a kind of utopian future and cynically also understanding that this utopia happens to be better for them politically because as you delay dealing with this problem, you create more future Democratic voters.
00:20:32.360And then you have Republicans on the other side saying we'd like to achieve something that the public says it wants.
00:20:37.840They want the laws enforced and people want an end to illegal immigration.
00:20:40.500But yet, under the pressure from the media and the kind of coverage that happens, people recoil when they see those laws being enforced.
00:20:52.600And Trump is encountering a political problem because the more he presses to try to solve that impasse, the more he wrestles with the problem, the more he is vulnerable to accusations of racism.
00:21:11.080But it comes to you as a quote-unquote immigrant.
00:21:13.120And so if you attack illegal immigration, you are then cast as attacking all immigrants, meaning you are racist because immigrants are people from other countries.
00:21:20.840Oftentimes they are brown or black or myself.
00:21:37.240And so they whip themselves up into a frenzy where anything he does about this is seen as a racial incitement, and hence the impasse that our country is at today.
00:21:45.260Listen, I mean, you and I have talked about immigration on several occasions, and I think I agree with your assessment.
00:21:50.740But how did we get from talking about mass shooters to immigration?
00:21:55.580I know that Trump has mentioned immigration a few times in the last few days, but isn't the center of this debate firearms and banning guns and seizing guns and gun culture?
00:22:12.780I mean, that's certainly what the left is talking about.
00:22:14.980Yes, there are some absurd accusations that Trump stimulated this with his talk.
00:22:20.560But isn't the battle this moment another battle over firearms?
00:22:27.100The firearms are not an issue that can be resolved.
00:22:30.780It's not possible to resolve the issue.
00:22:33.580That doesn't mean you don't try to make it better.
00:22:35.440You don't try to manage the problem of violence.
00:22:38.400But you have a country, first of all, with hundreds of millions of guns.
00:22:42.940So even if you decided that guns were the problem, there's really no way to get rid of them unless you can invent some kind of a magnet that you can place over the country that only attracts guns to it.
00:22:54.860People are not going to give up their firearms, mostly because the purpose of the Second Amendment is deeply ingrained in American culture, which is to protect the citizens from tyranny.
00:23:04.780And if you don't think tyranny is possible, just look at what the Democrats are doing and proposing, and then you understand why people want to be armed.
00:23:11.440Not because they want to attack the government, but because people feel it's the ultimate safeguard against a government that takes away their rights.
00:23:19.320Number two, it's not clear that guns are the problem.
00:23:22.720And in fact, in some cases, guns are the solution.
00:23:25.040Remember, not too long ago at the mass shooting at a church in Texas, it was a gun that stopped the shooting.
00:23:30.840A neighbor with an AR-15 stopped the mass shooter, shot at him, causing him to flee and eventually be apprehended by police.
00:23:38.920Actually, I think he killed himself before the police arrived, but basically he ran away because he was fired at by a neighbor with a gun.
00:23:46.540That doesn't happen in every situation, but it does happen often enough.
00:23:49.820And there is no way you're going to convince Americans, at least a significant, at least a minority of Americans, that giving up guns is the solution to acts of mass violence.
00:24:01.180In fact, as more guns have appeared in American society, as more guns have been sold and bought, you've seen fewer of these mass shootings.
00:24:09.300Crime has actually gone down in most places, even though guns have gone up.
00:24:13.160And that's the opposite of what gun control activists want you to believe.
00:24:17.160Now, we don't want guns to be held by people with mental illnesses and so forth.
00:24:21.020And there's a mental health aspect of this that really is something we can work on.
00:24:25.320It's not going to solve the problem completely, but there's an element of it that is there.
00:24:29.020Many cases, such as the Ohio shooter or the Parkland shooter last year, in many cases, there were warning signs that these people were mentally disturbed.
00:24:36.840There had been police calls that were overlooked.
00:24:39.040And that's what these red flag laws are aiming at.
00:24:41.840That's why the president is going there, because he's seeing that state authorities and local authorities are often not doing enough.
00:24:48.720They have laws in place to do this already, but the red flag idea is we're going to give the states more resources to do it.
00:24:53.900So there's no excuse not to do it, not to take guns away from someone who's mentally unstable, who's made threats, as the Dayton shooter had already made to several people, of shooting up a bar.
00:25:03.620I mean, in many of these cases, the shooters are known, their intentions are known beforehand, and nothing is done.
00:25:54.240And it's not really going to have an impact.
00:25:56.300In California, we have some of the most strict gun control regulations anywhere in the country.
00:26:00.660We had a mass shooting not 10 days ago at an outdoor festival.
00:26:04.240It hasn't really helped much in California.
00:26:06.420Now you could say, well, they're getting guns and ammunition from other places.
00:26:08.620But in many cases, they're buying the guns here in California.
00:26:11.260So this is not an easy problem to solve.
00:26:14.040Anyone pretending it's an easy problem to solve and the only problem is president or the right wing or the National Rifle Association, that's just a way of ginning up political division.
00:26:23.020Because you're just telling Americans that the problem are these people on the other side who we don't like, not the problem that's complicated and we need to work together to figure out how to make it better.
00:26:32.600We are becoming a less violent society over time, and that's good.
00:26:36.160But this is a country that has, since its founding, accepted the tradeoff that with more freedom is going to come more risk.
00:26:43.440And that's something that we all choose to live with.
00:26:46.460You know, maybe help me out on this one last point.
00:26:49.180And thanks very much for giving us so much time today.
00:26:53.020Joel, Donald Trump was blamed, including by National Public Radio and Every Democrat, for at least the El Paso violence.
00:27:03.340Barack Obama was not blamed for the Sandy Hook mass shooting.
00:27:07.680Bill Clinton was not blamed for the Columbine shooting.
00:27:10.600And just this past weekend in Canada, it was a long weekend up here, Toronto had so many shootings.
00:27:17.880I think it was a record in a bad way, and Toronto is now on track for a record murder streak.
00:27:25.160It has a higher murder rate than New York City.
00:27:28.400And yet you don't see that blamed on Justin Trudeau.
00:27:30.920So help me understand how gun crime on a Democrat or a liberal's watch is just gun crime, but gun crime on a conservative's watch is the conservative's fault.
00:27:43.820How is that argument being done, being made?
00:27:47.320How has it been getting away with, got away with?
00:27:50.800You know, the best example, look, there are cases where it would have made no sense whatsoever to blame Bill Clinton or Barack Obama for the mass shootings.
00:27:58.700I mean, the Columbine massacre, these were two very troubled teenagers who carried it out, had nothing to do with politics.
00:28:05.800I don't even think they understood anything about politics.
00:28:08.640With some of the mass shootings under Obama, I mean, Sandy Hook was a mentally disturbed young man who stole the guns, I believe, or was given guns by his mother and should never have had them and had very troubled family life.
00:28:23.520The mass shooting that one could, if one wanted to use the media's logic, the one that one could lay at Obama's door was the shooting of five Dallas police officers in 2016 at a Black Lives Matter rally.
00:28:38.380A crazed activist who empathized with the movement fired at the crowd and shot and killed five Dallas police officers.
00:28:47.940Now, nobody actually blamed Obama for that, but you could have.
00:28:51.740You could have said he supports this movement and he has used this rhetoric against police and somebody took it too far and he needs to tone it down.
00:28:59.720Not only didn't he tone it down, he showed up at the funeral for the police officers and gave some very nice remarks about law enforcement, but then went on to talk about why Black Lives Matter had an important point we all should listen to.
00:29:10.380So, you know, you could have done that, but people didn't.
00:29:13.940You could also say that Nancy Pelosi and Bernie Sanders and others on the left inspired the shooter at the Republican baseball practice in 2017.
00:29:21.980There was a mass shooter who luckily didn't kill anybody, but he injured many people, including Steve Scalise, the majority whip of the Republican House at the time.
00:29:29.880He showed up and he was a Bernie Sanders fan and he watched Rachel Maddow on MSNBC and he believed a lot of the crazy things the left said about Donald Trump and he showed up with a gun.
00:29:39.300So one could and a few people did start to say the Democratic Party has blood on its hands in the media for the way they've ginned up all this anti-Trump hatred.
00:29:48.880The reason people are doing it with Trump is very simple.
00:29:50.760The media believe this and they want it to be true and they want to get rid of Trump.
00:29:55.140This is an effective way of making people afraid, not just of Trump, but afraid to identify with Trump.
00:30:00.760They want to make him toxic so that voters don't go anywhere near him, that you can't wear your Trump T-shirt outdoors, that wearing a MAGA hat becomes an incitement to violence.
00:30:09.240Cory Booker today called for banning all future Trump campaign rallies because he said that they provide incentives or inspiration for white supremacist terrorism.
00:30:21.700This is because the media are trying to make sure Trump doesn't win in 2020 and they're trying to drown him out and demonize his supporters.
00:32:53.160The problem is too large for individuals without resources to do.
00:32:59.140And the irony is that their very powerful congressman, Elijah Cummings, was just five minutes away from the squalor, on a nice street, by the way.
00:33:07.280And it was like he's five million miles away.