A 20-year-old Syrian refugee is charged with terrorism in Kingston, Ontario, after an investigation involving 300 police officers. Why should others go to jail when you don't have the resources to catch them? And why did the FBI miss it?
00:15:48.620Go be Syrian in Syria, where you can get work because you have credentials, where you speak the language, where you fit in, where you're not freezing in the winter.
00:16:01.680As Sheila Gunn-Reed showed us through access to information documents, Trudeau spends about $50,000 on each refugee family when they arrive here.
00:16:35.040Let's give these families $50,000 to go back.
00:16:37.720But let's also stop being stupid, okay?
00:16:40.080I mean, Trudeau did not vet these refugees.
00:16:41.900Whether it's the accused rapist in Burnaby or these accused terrorists in Kingston or the accused child molester in West Edmonton Mall Water Park who was acquitted only because the judge said the white girls, the half dozen white girls he molested, well, they couldn't be relied on to identify a Muslim perpetrator for cultural reasons.
00:17:01.080Or remember this guy, the hockey stick guy, the Syrian thug in New Brunswick who beat his wife for half an hour bloody with a hockey stick?
00:17:08.860And he said to the court, I swear he said to the court, that no one in Canada ever told him that it was against the rules to beat your wife with a hockey stick.
00:20:32.920This morning, the FBI has arrested Roger Stone, the president's political advisor.
00:20:51.840Exclusive footage you're looking at right now from CNN as the FBI arrives at Roger Stone's residence in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, taking him into custody.
00:21:03.780We understand he will be arraigned in Fort Lauderdale later this morning, indicted on seven counts, one count of obstruction, five counts of making false statements, one count of witness tampering.
00:21:17.460Again, they arrived before dawn there, before 6 a.m., or just after 6 a.m., a dozen officers were told.
00:22:21.060That is amazing coincidence that CNN happened to be right there, outside the Fort Lauderdale home of Roger Stone, who has been investigated by the special counsel in the United States for more than a year.
00:22:34.140What are the odds that CNN knew exactly where to go and exactly when within an hour?
00:22:41.540And what are the odds that the FBI felt they just absolutely needed to have six police cars, 12 military style police with flak jackets and long arms going in SWAT team style?
00:22:54.880Because, you know, a 66-year-old grandpa-aged pundit, well, you never know what he's going to do.
00:23:02.080But, of course, there's no point in having that kind of shock and awe if no one's there to be shocked and awed by it.
00:24:16.220I mean, he was living, as he usually does, in Florida.
00:24:19.640And he could have been asked to come with his lawyer to the FBI, as others have.
00:24:26.860But when it comes to Manafort and Roger Stone and some of the higher-ups, I don't think you can call Roger Stone higher-up, but he's high-profile.
00:24:34.920Some of the targets in this investigation, the FBI has done this very theatrical thing.
00:24:43.080It does seem likely, but there's an alternative explanation, which is the one they gave, which may be plausible, which is simply that they're so obsessed with this story that they had staked out that apartment for a long time.
00:24:55.960And they had watched the court for a long time to see if there was unusual activity.
00:24:59.880CNN is so committed to this story of Russia collusion because they want to undo the 2016 election that it's entirely plausible they would have had reporters up all night waiting for the FBI or waiting to get the photographs of Roger Stone being led away in handcuffs.
00:25:17.260I don't think that it helps Robert Mueller to have this out there.
00:25:22.180It makes him look thuggish, as you say, third world and intimidating, but it doesn't intimidate the targets of the investigation who already know who they are.
00:25:35.980So I think there's actually less of a chance this was leaked by someone on Mueller's team, unless it was some rogue member of Mueller's team, some law enforcement official who wants to help CNN because he agrees with their political line.
00:25:49.940But I think that the explanation CNN gave is likely to be true.
00:25:54.720It doesn't mean it has to be true, but they are simply so obsessed with this story that they would have paid somebody and apparently a couple of people to stake out Roger Stone's apartment.
00:26:06.140And I don't think it tells us much about CNN other than what we already knew, which is that they're determined to bring Trump down.
00:26:33.700The judge, you know, could have picked him up any time of day.
00:26:36.080The judge sent a SWAT team to his house at 4.30, and they do this to Tommy, and I'm not trying to bring Tommy into this, but to cause his wife upset, to cause the kids upset, to cause embarrassment, to cause stress.
00:26:49.540You know, they knew where he was the whole time.
00:26:52.500They didn't need to come for Tommy at 4.30.
00:26:55.400They could have come at 10 a.m. after the kids were at school.
00:26:57.960Now, Roger Stone doesn't have school-edged kids, but like you say, they, you know, Roger Stone has lawyers.
00:27:02.680They could have just asked him to present to the police station and to send 12 SWAT team cops.
00:27:10.560Like, it's just, what bothers me, I mean, you're very generous to give CNN the benefit of the doubt to say they staked it out and weren't tipped off, but let's accept that.
00:27:21.320But for the FBI, even if they didn't tip off the media, for them to send 12 SWAT teams to arrest a grandpa-aged pundit shows to me that the FBI is still rotten and political because I don't believe that that was a legitimate operational choice.
00:27:41.100I don't believe there was a risk assessment that Roger Stone was going to go out guns blazing, that he was going to run to the airport and get on a private plane.
00:27:48.780I think what we know for sure, we don't know for sure how CNN heard about, we know for sure what the FBI did at the, probably at the direction of Mueller.
00:28:00.440That, to me, is the largest problem there, is that we have an FBI that is clearly acting as its own political force.
00:28:07.140What do you make of that? Am I overdoing it?
00:28:09.180I think that if you understand the FBI's mentality toward all of this, that's different than saying they're correct.
00:28:20.820But if you understand that they may actually believe that they are saving the country from some foreign enemy, again, it doesn't mean they are, right?
00:28:30.920Because they're not. There's no evidence of Russia collusion, and they would say that they haven't found any.
00:28:36.940I mean, there's been none in these court documents, for example.
00:28:40.080But if that's what many of them, especially those who donated to Hillary Clinton, who are card-carrying Democrats, you know, that's who staffs the Mueller investigation.
00:28:52.120If they're in the mindset that much of the rest of the media and the opposition are in, in their mind, they are conducting a counter-terror operation, not just a kind of investigation of some process crimes.
00:29:06.600And so I think to them, this might have seemed entirely appropriate.
00:29:10.560I agree with you, it's inappropriate, excessive, and all of that.
00:29:14.020I also think it makes Robert Mueller look very bad, and it makes it look like they deliberately leaked this information to CNN.
00:29:20.360I mean, all of that is plausible, or at least can be part of the story.
00:29:25.460But I just think what you have probably on both ends, both in the special counsel's team and in CNN, both of which are totally dominated by Democrats,
00:29:36.200I think you have the hysteria that we've seen in the media as a whole and in the Democratic Party about Russia that is guiding their choices.
00:29:44.960To them, this may have seemed rational and reasonable.
00:29:47.500It doesn't mean it was, but I think that's what it tells us.
00:29:50.040It tells us that this Russia conspiracy hysteria continues to grip our institutions,
00:29:54.860even when they think they're trying to make things right.
00:29:57.940Well, I mean, CNN is its own thing, and it's a private company.
00:30:01.520It can do what it wants, but Donald Trump's been president for more than two years.
00:30:06.540James Comey is no longer the head of the FBI.
00:30:08.280So it's one thing for CNN to have Trump derangement syndrome, but who's running the show in Washington?
00:30:15.660I mean, is Donald Trump president or not?
00:30:16.960I'm not saying that Trump should politicize the FBI.
00:30:20.220The opposite of them, saying Trump should depoliticize the FBI and put someone in who is absolutely just a cop's cop, not a politician's cop.
00:30:51.380It's not even one Republican on this team.
00:30:54.500I think that they are beset by institutional problems.
00:30:59.280They're part of the party of government.
00:31:01.820Look what the director of the FBI said to his employees during the shutdown, that he was angry about the shutdown, that it was mind-boggling there was a shutdown.
00:31:09.700I mean, this is a guy who wouldn't have the job if Trump hadn't elevated him to it.
00:31:13.240And he's taking a position on the shutdown that essentially accuses the president of doing something insane.
00:31:20.700It cannot be solved by appointing new people.
00:31:23.580So I am actually on the record saying they should tear it down and start over, and they should create clear lines of accountability.
00:31:30.500It's really just ridiculous that Trump is about to appoint an attorney general.
00:31:35.440He's appointed an attorney general who is about to get confirmed.
00:31:38.460And yet that attorney general is now going to have to be the boss of the Mueller investigation, but can't actually run that investigation.
00:31:44.040Because if he does, if he tells Mueller to keep things within bounds, if he tells him not to do these pre-dawn raids, it's going to be seen as political interference in the investigation, even when it isn't.
00:31:53.240So Bob Barr, or William Barr, excuse me, Bob Barr was a congressman.
00:31:58.320Bill Barr is going to have to go in there and be the president's adversary.
00:32:02.740We have a system regarding our allocation of responsibilities when it comes to legally advising the president, carrying out the president's directives for law enforcement on the one hand, and also on the other hand, being a legal watchdog against abuses of power.
00:32:18.260It can't be done by the same people with the same agencies.
00:33:31.280Tell me what you think of this theory.
00:33:33.520It's a guy like that loves controversy, loves mystery, loves intrigue so much that part of him sort of liked being targeted by Mueller because it made him feel like a real player.
00:33:44.400But if you look at what he was arrested for today, absolutely none of it goes to, is Trump in bed with Russia?
00:33:51.660It all goes to, well, maybe Roger Stone was being too tricky with his answers or was interfering with the process of the investigation as opposed to anything substantive.
00:34:02.100Have I properly summed up the charges against him?
00:34:05.220And what do you think of my theory that he's just, he likes being a wild man, but that doesn't work when you're up against Mueller?
00:34:13.200Yeah, I think it's going to depend on what Mueller has on him.
00:34:30.580Yeah. All right. Well, I won't, I won't ask you any more mind reading questions about Roger Stone, but I have one more question for you about Donald Trump.
00:34:39.240Because today, at least from my vantage point way up north here in Canada, it looked like he caved on the government partial shutdown.
00:35:01.700It could, on the one hand, be a smart move that gives him more political cover to declare a national emergency at the end of three weeks, taking some of the pressure off with the government shutdown.
00:35:12.000On the other hand, it could be a complete cave.
00:35:15.560I mean, Pelosi said she wouldn't open the government.
00:35:19.340She wouldn't open the, she wouldn't fund the wall.
00:35:21.560There would be no discussion of border security until the government was opened.
00:35:24.580Trump said he was not going to sign any budget that didn't fund the wall while he's going to sign a continuing resolution that doesn't fund the wall.
00:35:30.420She got her way here for only three weeks.
00:35:34.920I think that Congress has really failed here.
00:35:37.560Republicans are terrified of the media and Democrats don't want to fund any sort of barrier while Trump is in office because he'll get the credit for it.
00:35:50.940This could be a total cave, but it's a total cave this round.
00:35:56.660But Trump says that the Democrats have committed to border security that would include a physical barrier.
00:36:01.920I've just seen news now, as you and I are speaking, that Pelosi has refused to answer whether there'll be a physical barrier on the wall.
00:36:08.580So she won't even confirm the terms of the deal.
00:36:11.460If that's the case, then this is a complete cave.
00:36:15.420And then the only way to resolve it is for Trump to declare a national emergency, which is a bad solution, but maybe the only way to get the wall built.
00:36:22.040It's bad because it creates a bad precedent, although this is legal and Obama's use of executive power was not legal.
00:36:30.300So who knows if the wall will ever actually be built.
00:36:32.220And it sets a bad precedent because Democrats will invent national emergencies to do what they want to do when they have the White House back again someday.
00:37:07.820The fact that Erdogan of Turkey is getting involved is not good.
00:37:10.520I'm hoping and praying that the people of Venezuela remove the shackles of communism and free their people.
00:37:15.220Yeah, what I've learned from Joseph Humeyer and Fernando Gonzalez and the other people we've spoken to about Venezuela over the years is Maduro is a bit of a puppet.
00:37:26.740There is this whole apparatus around him, the Cubans, the Iranians.
00:37:31.540It's crazy to me that Iran has really colonized Venezuela for a decade.
00:38:10.420But then Marxism and strong man, it's just so sad.
00:38:14.920But hopefully, Jair Bolsonaro and now, by the way, I should tell you, the new de facto interim president of Venezuela, he's not a right winger like Bolsonaro.
00:38:24.140In fact, his party is part of an international league of parties that includes the British-UK Labor Party.
00:38:32.720So he's no right winger, but let's call him a liberal.
00:38:38.220He's against the communist, brutal Leninist Maduro.
00:38:42.420So I'm rooting for him, even though he's a socialist.
00:39:02.980But I want the world to do something to help when 32 million people in our hemisphere who have some common values with us and were once free.
00:39:12.920And I just feel like if we put trillions of dollars into the basket case called Afghanistan, and how many lives did we sacrifice there?