A social justice mob targets a conservative politician s parents on Christmas Eve, and then I ask my guest if the same sort of mob has completely ruined policing. It's January 4, 2019, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
00:03:56.560I think we should all just stop for a minute and appreciate the fact that now the social justice warriors are suddenly free speech activists,
00:04:05.740opposing using the strong arm of the state to shut people up, even though that's absolutely not what happened here.
00:04:13.060It's really a bold take from the same crowd that happily would prosecute and then persecute a fellow Canadian citizen
00:04:20.740for the act of misgendering someone or using the wrong pronouns or dead naming,
00:04:26.340which is the weird phrase activists now use to describe the act of someone using the name of a person before their transgender transition.
00:13:16.960Shootings are up and arrests are down.
00:13:18.960Now, I have some theories about why that is.
00:13:22.960I think it has something to do with social justice activists like Black Lives Matter.
00:13:27.960I think it has a lot to do with the ineptitude of another former Toronto police chief, Bill Blair, who's now the gangs and guns minister for Justin Trudeau.
00:13:38.960And I think it has to do with safe injection sites.
00:13:44.960Well, you know, again, you talk about social justice warriors and that, but I think you'd have to include the mayor of Toronto in that category.
00:13:56.960When you look at things like telling Toronto Police Service that they can no longer engage in activities like carding.
00:14:31.960So in 2017, they removed carding in the city of Toronto and nearly immediately they saw a spike in gun violence.
00:14:43.960And, you know, to his credit, police chief Saunders in Toronto said he tacitly admitted that gun bans aren't going to work in Canada to reduce the gun violence in his city because he said the majority of gun related violence in his city is, quote unquote, street related.
00:15:09.960Last week, the Toronto police chief Mark Saunders held a press conference, a year end press conference, where he was talking about the record year in 2018, where Toronto recorded the most homicides ever in its history.
00:15:23.960And as he was talking, he danced around the issue, which is the 800 pound gorilla in the room, which is black gang violence.
00:15:33.960Just before we started this call, I looked up online the Toronto police most wanted list.
00:15:40.960And of the 11 people on there, 10 of them are black.
00:15:43.960You can you can let the social justice warriors or the politically correct say whatever they want, but you can't change reality.
00:15:52.960That's reality is that the majority of the violence is black gangs on other black gang members.
00:15:59.960So there needs to be some sort of you can't solve a problem if you don't identify the problem and talk about the problem.
00:16:06.960Well, and, you know, it really doesn't do any justice to the people who have to live in these really under policed communities because of, you know, the police being scared of being accused of racist or of being racist.
00:16:22.960It's not fair to them. They deserve to be safe, just like everybody else in Toronto.
00:16:29.960But because of accusations of racism by social justice warriors who don't have to live in these under police communities, the people who live in them are far less safe.
00:16:40.960Well, exactly. I mean, it was just the last month of the month before there was a discussion in the media in Vancouver about the Vancouver police checking more indigenous people in the downtown east side than than white folks.
00:16:59.960Well, the practical reality isn't if you walk around the downtown east side is the prevalence of people down there, especially the prevalence of people committing crimes are indigenous.
00:17:09.700You can't get around that reality by saying it's racist by Vancouver police to be the to be checking more indigenous people than than than white people.
00:17:19.240It's just it's ridiculous when reality is reality.
00:17:23.340Well, it's one of those times when facts don't really care about your feelings now.
00:17:27.400And I think part of the problem in all of this is, you know, as was pointed out in that press conference, a complete lack of will to do what needs to be done.
00:17:43.280I think one of the most telling statements by police chief Saunders was I don't think that he said with regard to gun violence, he said, I don't think that this is going to be happening next year.
00:17:54.820I do think this was a unique year for the loss of life, and I don't think that this is going to be a trend that we're going to have every single year.
00:18:04.740Well, if none of the conditions are changing to create a better atmosphere for policing and give police the tools they need to do their jobs, of course, the trend is going to continue.
00:18:17.200It is going to be more violent when they stopped carding is it was pointed out that they've seen over the last four years, a one hundred and fifty two percent increase in shooting victims.
00:19:03.960That's being proactive. And if you take that ability away, what you get within policing is the FIDO syndrome.
00:19:12.680Now, FIDO stands for effort, drive on.
00:19:15.340In other words, if they see something, it's just ignore it.
00:19:17.900Put your blinders on. Keep driving. Don't get involved.
00:19:20.920And that's just anathema for police in any city.
00:19:23.640Well, and and it's resulted in police going from, they said, 50,000 arrests five years to five years ago, down to 27,000 arrests this year.
00:19:39.540I mean, the amount of arrests in Toronto has dropped by nearly half.
00:19:44.740And I think it has a direct correlation to the fact that police don't have those intel gathering tools to be able to put two and two together when they're doing their investigations.
00:19:54.340Well, a lot of the arrests that that occur from, again, I hate using the term, but the term carding, as it's used in Toronto, is from police being proactive.
00:20:40.160You know, if you take that ability away, then you're going to do exactly what you're talking about, Sheila.
00:20:44.240You're going to minimize the number of arrests that are made.
00:20:47.360Well, and I mean, doing that sort of thing makes police more visible in the community.
00:20:53.640It gives people within the community, I think, more confidence in the police to know that the police are out there being proactive as opposed to reactive, intel gathering,
00:21:02.200and making people feel like their community is a priority for the police.
00:21:07.420And I think it has the opposite effect.
00:21:10.860While everybody is screaming racism at the police for doing these things, it actually shows that these black neighborhoods are actually a priority for the police to keep them safe and get the criminals out of their neighborhood.
00:21:38.340The politically correct nonsense that you're talking about, Sheila, needs to be taken out of the equation when you're talking about how to police a neighborhood.
00:21:50.400You know, and people like Mark Saunders, you know, at that press conference, like I said, I sat and watched it, and he wouldn't talk about the 800-pound gorilla in the room.
00:22:01.600I mean, it's obvious to everybody, apparently, but him.
00:22:05.160Well, and he says things like, and he would like to see an update to the antiquated criminal code to adapt to the changing conditions in Toronto.
00:22:19.580How about just enforcing the law, all the laws in Toronto and arresting the criminals?
00:22:26.440Why do they need more laws to deal with this?
00:22:29.220They need to, first off, enforce the border, because as you rightly pointed out, it is porous.
00:22:36.540Gangsters are trafficking drugs across the border.
00:22:40.260They're trafficking people across the border.
00:22:43.400Known criminals are coming across the border.
00:22:46.520Child pornography is coming across the border.
00:22:48.980The first thing Toronto needs to do is call on the federal government to enforce the border and then stop being a sanctuary city.
00:22:56.340And secondly, just enforce the laws as we know them.
00:23:19.760You know, your point about the porous border is exactly correct.
00:23:24.620You cannot have, without strict border controls, you can't control what's coming into the country, whether it's people, you know, sex trafficking, child porn, guns, drugs, whatever.
00:23:39.740You know, you simply cannot have a porous border and expect to have control of it.
00:23:45.960Well, and I think there's a secondary issue of Toronto being a sanctuary city.
00:23:50.700When you're signaling to the world's bad guys.
00:24:18.100You know, and it's at the end of the day, Sheila, you know, I would say this, you know, you cannot allow political correctness to get involved in policing.
00:24:29.420Policing deals with reality, deal with the reality of the streets.
00:24:32.700They deal with the reality of the communities, with the reality of the problems.
00:24:36.440And when you're dealing with reality, there is no place for political correctness.
00:24:41.400You know, I think that's a great place to leave our interview today.
00:24:45.400I want to wish you a very happy new year.
00:24:49.440Leo, thank you for taking the time away from your winter holidays to speak with us today.
00:24:54.980And from your lips to God's ears, let's keep social justice out of policing.
00:26:33.300Look, I appreciate the criticism, and I understand that not everyone can see all of my work all of the time.
00:26:38.480So I get if something has been missed.
00:26:41.900But I've been a very vocal critic of Andrew Scheer and even Jason Kenney here in Alberta when they deserve it.
00:26:48.600I've had petitions against both of them.
00:26:51.480When Andrew Scheer whipped conservatives into supporting the Paris Accord, like William Kaye pointed out, as one of his first acts as conservative party leader,
00:27:02.120I ran a petition against him calling him a backstabber.
00:27:06.820I ran a petition this summer before Maxime Bernier left the conservatives to form his own party,
00:27:13.220calling on Andrew Scheer to reverse his expulsion of Maxime Bernier from cabinet.
00:27:17.980Now, Maxime Bernier was booted from cabinet in part because he, like me, does not support supply management for dairy and for eggs.
00:27:27.180And just a couple of weeks ago, I had a petition against Jason Kenney's proposed government-mandated cuts to oil production in Alberta
00:27:35.980because, again, I think supply management is unconservative, especially for oil.
00:27:40.620And I knew those cuts would immediately cost jobs, and as it turns out, they did.
00:27:45.100Drilling rig utilization rates in Alberta are at some of their lowest in four decades.
00:27:50.080That's what the production cut brought us.
00:27:53.160And those are just a few of the times that I tried to serve as a gut check for conservative politicians
00:27:58.760who are constantly being pulled to the left by the mainstream media and by the governing liberal party.
00:28:06.660All the forces are dragging conservatives left, and I try to be the one thing dragging them back towards conservatism some days.
00:28:14.940And I don't care if they don't like me for it.
00:28:17.360I'm trying to do this for the good of the conservative movement, for the good of the country.
00:28:22.160I don't have a problem being critical of conservative politicians of any stripe, but I try to do it in a non-malicious way.
00:28:30.620I want Andrew Scheer to be a better conservative.
00:28:33.120I want Jason Kenney to do all the things he's promised us he will do.
00:28:38.260I'm a cheerleader for conservatism, but not for conservative politicians.
00:28:42.760To use Williams' language, I'm a shill.
00:28:45.200But I'll shill for small government, personal responsibility, low taxes, and minding your own business any day of the week.
00:28:53.520Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
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