Making sense of the Trans Mountain Pipeline approval during a Liberal “climate emergency”
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On this episode of The Gunn Show, my guest is Robbie Picard from Oil Sands Strong, a group dedicated to fighting climate change in Canada. We talk about the Kinder Morgan pipeline project, the Green New Deal, and why we should all be worried about climate change.
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Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain Pipeline project has been approved one more time, but the Liberals
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also say we're in a climate emergency and they've instituted an oil tanker ban.
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I think the Liberals are pushing and pulling to try to stave off the Conservatives in the
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I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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How have these concerns environmentally changed your own behavior?
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Okay, well, first of all, I've always used tap water.
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I've always thought bottled water was sort of stupid, so that's a tough thing.
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But if I could just respond to a little bit of what she says.
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I come from a community that has been attacked over and over again because of the oil sands.
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The word tar sands, which is used all the time in a derogatory way.
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And I watch a lot of these environmentalists not practice what they preach.
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One environmentalist that I know has been to Europe 13 times, and that's just Europe, and
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bragging about how she's saving the world, but done absolutely nothing herself.
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I was actually watching about the Green New Deal, and I saw Ariel Durange, and she's one
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of the people that helped write the Green New Deal, and she says that there's tons of
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The Green New Deal terrifies me because there's all this fear.
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And this war on fossil fuels, I think, is stupid.
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It doesn't matter what type of energy you have.
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Okay, but we are having a debate here, and I think you both made very good points about
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the pipeline and about some of the policies that are in place.
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But I do want to hear from you guys just about your daily lives because we have voters
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That was CBC completely underestimating my friend Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong.
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They did it in real time by putting him on a Sunday panel with the CBC's experts on climate
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One of CBC's experts is a musician based in Toronto who started off the show by describing
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herself as being the same age as the climate crisis, and who compassionately musician-splained
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to us Albertans that the rest of the country, like her Torontonian cohorts, can just help
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us get off the fossil fuels the way they have, I guess.
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And the other fellow on the panel was a student in Halifax who looks like he probably needed
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to do a load of laundry, and says that he tries to recycle because smarter environmentalists
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It's on the CBC website if you want to see the whole thing, and I recommend that you
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It's sort of fun to watch Robbie Picard roll those two know-nothings up in a rug and toss
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But if you are an empathetic person, you'll start to feel bad for them about halfway through
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That is, until you remember, like I did, how these two want all of us unemployed or working
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So that's a fun little bit, but there's a lot going on in energy politics in Canada
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Jason Kenney has announced the War Room to debunk some of the misinformation floating
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around out there about Canada's ethical oil and gas industry.
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But Canada's Environment Minister, old yeller Catherine McKenna, has shrieked her way into
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convincing the House of Commons that Canada is in some sort of climate emergency, and Justin
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Trudeau has approved the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain Pipeline Expansion Project one more
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time, just in time to try to save his ass in advance of the next federal election.
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So joining me today is the only knowledgeable person on that CBC Sunday panel, my friend Robbie
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Picard, in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.
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So joining me now to talk about all the new developments, good and bad, on the energy and
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energy politics front is my friend Robbie Picard in Fort McMurray.
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Now, I wanted to talk about something that was a little bit exciting for you personally and
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me peripherally because I was excited for you, and that was that you introduced the Jason
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Can you give us a brief synopsis of what that was like for you and what exactly the War Room
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So it was a great honour to be asked to open for our premiere.
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I wanted to kind of echo the sentiment that's been going on in Fort McMurray and in my community
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I'm not part of the War Room at this moment, and I don't know anything other than what I
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And what I experienced there was a mass amount of people that were part of different organizations
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that we all shared the common goal and the same frustration about what's been happening
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And it wasn't, I mean, there was some corporate stuff there, but it was a lot of really grassroots
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organizations like myself that have been fighting and fighting and fighting.
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So considering I'm kind of like the OG in that, it felt good.
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And we felt hope for the first time in a very long time.
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It was like, wow, finally we can actually get somewhere in regards to this battle that we're
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Now, from what I understand, the Energy War Room, a lot of what they are going to do will
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involve debunking some of the, I wouldn't even say they're common misconceptions, but the
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more pervasive misconceptions that people who oppose pipelines and energy development hold,
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you know, with regard to what happens on the ground in Fort McMurray and what happens when
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you build a pipeline and what happens on a drilling rig.
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I think it'll be a battleground of information to deal with some of the disinformation on the
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But you got a lot of blowback for the tone you took when you announced Jason Kenney, and
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I got a little bit of blowback because I held up a poster with Sappora Berman's face on it,
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and it said, Sappora Berman, enemy of the oil sands.
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But I was actually kind of thinking about that after, and Shadowing Magazine said that she
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So, I mean, like, this is nothing new for Sappora Berman to be called enemy of oil and gas.
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I mean, that's kind of how she's made her substantial living over the past 15, how many
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I think she would probably describe herself as that.
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And other than, I think, her and that Karen lady, they were very actively against the pipeline
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while they were on the oil sands advisory committee.
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And that, to me, you know, I know a lot of people on that committee, and I don't agree
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with all of them, but you've never seen me attack them because, you know, they did their
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I question Berman's integrity on that and many other issues.
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Yeah, I mean, Sipporah Berman was sitting on the oil sands advisory group, you know, sitting
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there to decide the fate of the oil sands, including an emissions cap that would essentially
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act as leave-it-in-the-ground legislation while simultaneously organizing against Trans Mountain
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So, she's being paid by Alberta and organizing against us in British Columbia.
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I think part of the problem, or I shouldn't say problem, but I think some of the blowback
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you got, and you didn't get blowback from normal people, anybody concerned with Alberta's
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You got blowback from activists and activist journalist types.
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I think some of that is because they made the connection between Berman sitting on the oil
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sands advisory group and the fact that Rachel Notley hired her to sit on the oil sands advisory
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And they saw that as an attack on Rachel Notley, someone that a lot of these people are still
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What you did was absolutely the truth of the matter.
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But I think those people who were upset for you making that point, it's because it really
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I think it had a lot to do with the fact that Berman really was a proxy for Rachel Notley's
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So, what I find this kind of funny because there's people that, when Notley was premier,
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When Notley did something that I thought was in support of oil sands or oil and gas, I shared
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So, my message to them is real simple, is that if you want to be angry at someone, be
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And if you wanted to play that argument, like, I mean, what did she, Notley asked for a few
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small things from the environmentalists, like Mike Adima and Sabora Berman, and they didn't
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And, you know, and everyone said, they'll never give an inch, they'll never give an inch,
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I mean, Notley put her in a position that she never would have got ever in the history of
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Alberta, and she couldn't just let us have one pipeline.
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And candidly, some of the, like, I mean, the way they, some of them were attacking me,
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Because when Notley was premier, they were praising me for saying the same thing.
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I went after Sabora Berman while I was standing on the legislature with the NDP on my right
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So, candidly, I mean, I'm not sure what their issue is, but I am getting tired of a lot of
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people in Alberta who are against oil and gas, but somehow still make a fortune talking about it.
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I wonder what Sabora Berman's speaking fees are these days.
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Now, I wanted to ask you about some other energy news.
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Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain Pipeline project has been approved one more time.
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I wonder if it'll take three times before there actually ends up a shovel in the ground.
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Now, the Liberals say that they should be breaking ground this summer, but they said we should
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Do you think this pipeline will get built under the Liberals, or was this re-announcement of
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the Trans Mountain Pipeline approval just politicking in the lead up to an election when the Liberals
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No, but I need to actually think about what I'm going to say, because I'm finding myself
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in such an interesting position right now, because, look, we need this pipeline.
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This is bigger than a temporary time in our political history, because politics will constantly
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This is a nation-building thing, and honestly, it's our last shot.
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So if we don't get this pipeline, well, then you'll see a whole new Canada.
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And from what I'm hearing from people that, business people here in Alberta that I know,
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And there's people talking about separating, there's people talking about joining the states.
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And I hope, and I'm praying that we all put our differences aside and just get this pipeline
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It's twinning an existing pipeline that will benefit all of us.
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And I think once the pipeline's built, it'll make our, I think, I think if once it actually
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built and starts flowing oil, I think you'll see a lot of Canadians like, oh, that wasn't
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I can't, I mean, my activism has been very nonpartisan and not like, I'm not perfect at
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I mean, I can't stand Elizabeth May or the new NDP leader guy, and I'll go after them.
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But for the most part, I've been very, very good at being nonpartisan.
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And so I'm, I'm so, I, I'm just a pipeline advocate and I want to see this pipeline get
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So I hope that it was more than just for the votes.
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I'm, I'm blown away that we don't, we don't, we can't see eye to eye on this, on this project.
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So I'm hoping that it gets built and I'm hoping that the rest of Canada wakes up to
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Here's why I think it's just shameless politicking.
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And I think it's really egregious that, um, the liberals, in my opinion, are selling
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hundreds of thousands of people on false hope just for elections purposes.
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Um, I guess it has to do with just a couple of days before they declare a climate emergency.
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Um, and then a couple of days after, um, the founder of Equitair, so a tides funded, uh,
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anti-oil sands lobbyist was, um, nominated as a liberal candidate in Quebec.
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So, um, I think while there's a lot of talk happening, I think the liberals actions speak
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And at the end of the day, I feel like this is probably just going to get tied up in court
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Um, at that end, the next thing I wanted to talk to you about was, uh, you know, the,
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one of the reasons I don't think the liberals are all too serious about actually building,
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uh, Trans Mountain is that then they also passed Bill C-69 and C-48.
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So that's the tanker ban and basically turfing the NEB in favor of some sort of social justice
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I'm hopeful of one small thing, and I've been thinking about this a lot, how to approach
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it, um, what to do, what not to do, what to say.
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I'm hoping that once the Trans Mountain pipeline gets built, that they will have a change of
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heart and they'll understand that they need the revenue from that pipeline and they reverse
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I think, you know, if you look at the code access pipeline and I mean, like you want to
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talk about plastic pollution, I mean, look at the sewer those environmentalists left over
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I mean, it was plastic garbage, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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And, but fast forward, the garbage has been cleaned up by oil workers and, um, and the
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And I would argue that pipelines have very low climate impact.
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Technology is getting better all the time for less emissions.
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Every form of energy has a cost and a consequence from windows to solar, solar in particular.
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Are they, I mean, all these environmentalists and human rights activists don't care about
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little children that are mining earth metals, trying to build batteries for their cars and
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So, I mean, I really hope we collectively grow up.
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And I did a, I did, um, I did a interview on CBC the other day and, um, I was just going
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You know, it was an ax murdering and, um, it wasn't fair putting you on the panel with
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So my, what I learned from that though, and, um, I, I mean, I, I, um, yes, I was expecting,
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I was expecting to go someone like support Berman and I, I didn't, and that's fine.
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But what I, what I was blown away is like the young guy that I was talking to and I'm
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Um, so I'm not going to say millennials, but I'm going to say like, um, you know, I'm,
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So 20 years younger than me, uh, I'm 41 years old.
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So 20 years younger than me and, and, and the people that my age had kids kind of in
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their, their younger time, they, we really screwed up our kids in a lot of ways because
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when he said like, well, you know, I'm not doing enough and I need to do more.
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It made me really think like, you don't know what it's like to go.
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Like you actually think going to Costco and buying a case of water is normal.
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And we raised that our kids this way, like that.
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There was no, like, I mean, bottled water, I think you were telling me this too, or something
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So like, I will buy like, um, you know, Perrier or whatever.
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But as a rule, I don't buy heaps of bottled water.
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You can put a lemon in it and it comes from the same source.
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But we have these, this generation now that they're kind of clueless about everything.
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They think that they don't understand how food comes.
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They don't understand there's an impact to everything.
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So like they have this notion that they can somehow fix all the problems by boycotting this
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But when it comes to the things about survival, like steel and you need plastic, no matter
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And I would argue the plastic in the, in the ocean, it's not from us.
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I mean, I just did, I've been doing all these videos on pipeline videos because they're so
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And I go to these pipelines and the other day I was at a pipeline and I found one piece
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And you go to these other countries that don't have fossil fuels, don't have natural gas,
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don't have a stable energy source from fossil fuels.
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And the garbage is pouring into their waterways.
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So they're not, this, this plastic problem is not, I mean, I'm not saying that we don't
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contribute to it, but it's so easy to solve by people changing their behavior.
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And I'm, I really think we, like, if we don't all grow up soon and learn that we have to
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figure out how to work together, we're going to destroy what we have.
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All of us, as bad as we think we have that kid at Halifax University.
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I mean, he's, his biggest scare in life is like, oh, do I drink bottled water or do I
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I mean, there's countries that don't have any access to clean water at all.
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There's countries that have to have bottled water to survive because there's so much pollution
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I mean, I was just reading too about like, if you throw a little bit of sewage in the
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But Victoria, they don't, I don't think they have a water filtration system and they dump
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all of their raw sewage in the ocean over and over again.
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That is a massive amount of impact of all kinds of disease like birth control and shit
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And we have potential to really solve each other's problems if we work together and we're
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fighting over something that really doesn't make a difference.
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You could shut off Canada's oil and gas tomorrow and it would make no dent, no dent in what happens
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to the rest of the world because China and India and the United States' emissions are
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But what it would do is to destroy our economy.
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And yes, it's really great when governments are running deficits and they temporarily boost
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So this generation that doesn't understand that water comes out of a tap is going to really
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pay a price if we don't treat all of our energy with some urgency and importance that it deserves.
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Going back to that comically, I mean, it was, the panel was comical for sure.
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At one point though, when I was watching that panel that you were on, on the CBC, I did
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have to stop it because I felt like it was going too poorly for the people that were on
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But then I remembered that they want to put my family out of work, your family out of work.
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But I mean, they, these young, I mean, it really is the younger generation, but they
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have been led astray by our generation that, I mean, they hear things like the Green New
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Deal and immediately adopt it as a good idea because it has a good title.
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But as you evidenced in that panel discussion that you did with the CBC, a lot of these people
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And I think that's one of the great things about our side of the pipeline debate is, look,
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Well, you know, and that, that surprised me because I wanted to delve into that because
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I've been, I've been, I've been studying the Green New Deal and I watch all of their Facebook
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It's based on this, based on this system that they don't agree on.
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I don't want to have an overproductive lifestyle.
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If you, if you like, and I'm not totally against that.
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If you want to find a cheap way to live and you don't need to hustle, like I have to
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When I take days off, I burn, it's when I burn out and I literally can't move.
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Like, and that's what I love about our society.
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Like, I mean, realistically, if you don't want to work a whole time, you really don't
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And if you want to work a lot, you can have a lot.
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And what, what, what it really is, it's not, I don't think it has anything to do about
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It has to, it's this way to push this bizarre type of socialism.
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And I don't think people understand what that means.
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Like they think everyone's going to have free everything for a bit.
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But what happens is, is the smarter people, um, and, and not even smarter people that are
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more privileged, like trust fund babies, people that get put in these positions.
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And so on, they'll end up being in control and they live really good lives.
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And everyone else sort of becomes their worker bee.
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And so like, I mean, the green new deal to me is not about tons and tons of solar panels,
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but boring, a ton of money to reconfigure the whole country for socialism.
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And, and if you look at OA, um, AOC and I mean, and I'll give her some credit.
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She's got some good sound bites, but if you, if you watch a whole, if you watch a whole
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interview with her, I think she'll be a really good politician when she grows up 10 or 15
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years from now, but I don't think she really knows very much about anything.
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And it's scary to me that that's the role models.
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Cause like, I don't remember, like when I was younger, I always try to find role models
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Not some glorified person that has very little experience.
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And I'm not going to knock her experience as a cocktail waitress or a bartender.
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Yes, you can be a cocktail waitress or a bartender and become prime minister or a part-time substitute
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It's been done, but that is that the right choice?
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Like, let's, let's compare Justin Trudeau to Mark Garneau.
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Wealth, Trudeau wealth, trust fund, good looking, famous name.
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Now, if it boiled right down to figuring out what, like, I mean, it's, it sucks because
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Like, I mean, Stephen Harper, one of the greatest prime ministers in my lifetime.
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I also think John Kretchen was a great prime minister and I like Paul Martin.
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And it's too bad the infighting of Paul Martin and John Kretchen destroyed them.
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But that being said, Stephen Harper, I mean, he's, he's not, even his new Prager videos,
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I mean, they're great, but he's, he lacks a lot of charisma.
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What's the mind that determines how policy should work for everybody that understands
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that it, that, you know, an emotional intelligence is great, but that doesn't build the systems
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that we require for society to be equal and, and, um, to, to have prosperity for everybody.
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So these kids that looking at the screen, you know, they really got to like, they got to
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step back a little bit and realize that this is not the answer.
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Second of all, you know, this so-called green energy, I mean, it's destroying a lot of countries.
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Like there's a lot, it's not really working overall.
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It works in some situations, but don't rip apart.
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We, we, we are honestly, we, we, if we actually grew up in Canada and I, and I'm kind of, I
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don't think we're very, we have a lot of great ideas and we're, and we're more polite
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than the States, but if we could grow up, we're with 36 million people, the most resources,
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second largest country in the world with landmass.
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Let's stop fighting all the time and build an amazing country.
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Well, we'd have more money than anyone else, but we just don't, I don't know what it is.
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Um, sorry, in regards to the war room, I do think we need a public inquiry.
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Um, I do think we do, we need an examination into exactly what sorts of foreign monies have
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been funneled, um, into Canada and then essentially used to target Alberta.
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Um, no one has, I won't, I don't want to say no one, um, because under the, uh, Harper conservatives,
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they did try to examine these charities, but Justin Trudeau squashed all those audits.
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Um, so it's nice to see that, um, if, if indeed the war room is interested in looking at this,
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that they can sort of circumvent, um, the feds on this and do our own inquiries and investigations
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and see if we can find exactly where that money's coming from and why.
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So like, um, uh, my issue, like I, we all know that what's been done, we know what happened
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And to me, because they're arguing about the amount of money that was spent recently and
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they're saying, well, they only spent a million last year.
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Um, I don't care if they spent 500 million or a million.
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My point is, is they came up with a very destructive plan, uh, called the campaign against the tar
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So we know that now, um, it's really pathetic that it took us so many years to respond to
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Um, so I just want to know, like it, even, even, even if it doesn't stop, at least we
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know what we're up against and that inquiry will bring all of that up.
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So then you'll know, and you'll question, well, wait a minute, this foundation is giving
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And she's off to New York again to talk about financing.
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I mean, one of the sad things is that I exposed so much of them from their Facebook and social
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medias that they're posting less now, but that's the arrogance that we were dealing
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Like the amount, like I've never seen anything like it.
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It's like they fly off to, you know, well, we're, we're fighting climate change in Paris.
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Well, you flew on a plane to get there, the cat island, give your head a shake.
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Anyway, I'm trying to be more politically correct.
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That being said, it's like, um, we shouldn't, if it's, if we can't stop it, then at least
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You know, um, I mean, support Berman being on the oil sentence advisory committee, be kind
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of like me being captain of the rainbow warrior.
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Although that would be sort of appropriate, you know, cause I'm gay and it says rainbow
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I wonder Robbie, um, how can people support you?
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Because you do a lot of this activism that you do at oil sand strong out of your own pocket.
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Um, what are some of the ways that people can find you, support you, maybe get one of
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those super cool t-shirts, um, to help you do the work that you do on behalf of families
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like mine and hundreds of thousands of other Canadian families.
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So go to oil sand strong.com and order some shirts, order lots of shirts too.
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Cause when you order one shirt for 20 bucks, it ends up costing more to ship it.
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So we're like six shirts and then, um, and then watch what I'm doing on Facebook.
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We've got, I'm going to be doing a new web series, uh, daily where I come on and I, I
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was calling it the oil sand strong war room, but now I think I'm going to change it.
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And, um, you just, uh, yeah, just follow, follow, follow what we do or whatever.
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I might be doing like a Patreon or something in the near future.
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So I'm trying to, you know, trying to find everything, find, find ways to make it all
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But I am doing the best I can with what I have.
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Um, and going forward, if anything else to share our posts and, and understand too, that
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So when I post something that the other side does, don't, you know, don't, don't, uh,
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don't lynch me and just take it, be a little bit paid, be a little understanding that like
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my main focus is to get the pipeline built and I, and I, and I do all, all I can to get
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Thank you so much for being generous with your time, uh, today.
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And thank you for, like I said, going out there and just waging war for pipelines on behalf
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Um, and I don't just, I don't think you deserve a lot of the hate that you get.
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Um, and, uh, you, you know, you really do step into the fire every single day.
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Um, we'll, uh, have you back on the show as always.
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You're one of my favorite people on the entire face of the earth.
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Oh, thank you very much for having me on your show.
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Now, I know some people might get a little uptight about Robbie going on the CBC.
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We know how biased the CBC is, but I think Robbie should do CBC appearances every time
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He's out there fighting for us, but it's also important that he doesn't preach to the
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choir or try to waste his energy converting the already converted.
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I like that he gets inside the CBC echo chamber and shakes it up.
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And he shows everybody just how knowledgeable and smart and thoughtful our side of the oil
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I think Robbie's a great ambassador for Alberta, even if it's on the CBC.
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I'll see everybody back here at the same time in the same place next week.
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And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
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We are looking for our newest destination, and we need to be the best destination, and we
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I think there's some kind of opportunity, but indeed, when we got to выход, to then we
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something new to move forward and see how we'll see our latest campaign.