Rebel News Podcast - Manitoba campaign insanity (GUEST： Marty Gold)

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00:01:23.600 Justin Trudeau blames us all for his little racism problem in an appearance in Winnipeg.

00:01:28.800 Now, what was it like to stand in the front row of one of the worst days of Justin Trudeau's life?

00:01:33.220 We'll find out today. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:54.360 It is something absolutely unacceptable to do. And I appreciate calling it makeup, but it was

00:02:01.960 blackface. And that is just not right. It is something that people who live with the kind of

00:02:10.700 discrimination that far too many people do because of the color of their skin or their history or their

00:02:18.800 origins or their language or their religion face on a regular basis. And I didn't see that from the

00:02:29.020 layers of privilege that I have. And for that, I am deeply sorry.

00:02:33.660 That friends is a clip from Justin Trudeau's never-ending apology tour as more and more and

00:02:39.920 I guess more images of him performing blackface come out requiring more and more and while more

00:02:46.380 explanations and more and more and more excuses. Apparently, the latest excuse for dressing up in

00:02:52.600 blackface so many times he can't even keep track anymore is that Justin Trudeau was just too rich to

00:02:59.220 know better and just too dumb to care, if I'm paraphrasing him correctly, and I'm pretty sure I am.

00:03:05.300 Now, that latest groveling session where Trudeau claims to be taking responsibility for his actions,

00:03:10.780 but at the same time is also facing absolutely no real consequences for his atrocious behavior,

00:03:16.080 took place in Winnipeg. Now, if you haven't seen, our friend Andrew Lawton from the True North Centre

00:03:23.440 has been prohibited from going on the Liberal media bus by the Liberal Party. You see, Andrew's just not

00:03:30.320 Liberal approved. So, Andrew's currently chasing Justin Trudeau and his gaggle of sycophantic journalists,

00:03:36.060 journalists who haven't uttered a word in defense of Andrew's right to report, all across the country.

00:03:41.360 There are no skeptical journalists in the media bus. So, my guest tonight actually had a front row seat

00:03:49.080 to that Winnipeg Sobfest, and I wanted to have him on the show because he's one of the few non-Liberal

00:03:53.800 approved journalists to get front row access to Trudeau at all in this election campaign. So,

00:03:59.940 joining me tonight to discuss what it was like to have delicious courtside seats for one of the worst

00:04:04.940 days of Justin Trudeau's life, the atrocious CBC coverage during the recent Manitoba election,

00:04:10.080 and the growing scourge of anti-Semitism allowed to fester in Canada's progressive parties is

00:04:16.580 independent journalist Marty Gould from the J.ca in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.

00:04:22.560 Joining me now to talk about the federal election, Justin Trudeau's whistle-stop visit to his town,

00:04:44.060 and a whole host of other issues happening in the federal election, and a little bit about the

00:04:49.320 Israeli election, because I'm not sure anybody really understands it, is independent Winnipeg-based

00:04:55.020 journalist Marty Gould. Hey, Marty, thanks for joining me.

00:04:59.540 Thanks for having me again, Sheila.

00:05:01.580 Let's start off with the Manitoba election. That's come and went. I think your election predictions

00:05:10.200 were pretty close, but CBC was pretty darn terrible during that election campaign, I suppose the way

00:05:20.460 they are in every single election campaign.

00:05:26.480 CBC started out, like stumbled out of the gate by, as we discussed my previous appearance,

00:05:34.380 by running with a poll without taking two seconds to actually look at anything beyond the so-called

00:05:40.980 polling results. There was no background information about the polling company at all on the website.

00:05:47.660 It is an unknown player in the polling game. The reporter, Bryce Hoy, evidently could not wait to get

00:05:54.260 it up, scoop everybody on a Friday afternoon. By Saturday morning, Dougal Lamont and the Liberal Party

00:05:59.700 had pointed out that among other things that made this poll showing the NDP and the Conservatives neck

00:06:05.540 and neck at 31 percent, that anybody scratching the surface would realize there was deep connections

00:06:12.240 between the NDP and the pollster, who then had to say, yeah, these results, I got to look at them.

00:06:17.920 And two days later, the results from northern Manitoba were deemed to have been overweighted.

00:06:23.240 And lo and behold, the poll results were very close to what the final result was in terms of where

00:06:27.880 everybody rested. I don't recall CBC ever explaining how they went with a poll that was—and this could

00:06:38.020 have been a kid in grade six, could have put a poll out with a fancy website, and because it showed

00:06:42.720 Wob Canoo in a horse race with Brian Pallister, they would have run it. Didn't see any explanation

00:06:49.340 for it, didn't see any apology for it. And then after the campaign, CBC—I mean, as the votes were

00:06:57.820 still being counted, really, they outdid themselves by proclaiming a particular MLA from the NDP

00:07:06.880 as Manitoba's first elected black member of the legislature. Uzoma Azagwara is a darling of the

00:07:18.260 left-wing media in Winnipeg. She is the disciple, a disciple, of Nahanni Fontaine. And she's got a great

00:07:27.940 presence. I attended one of the town halls I attended. She was a speaker on behalf of the NDP.

00:07:35.220 And, you know, she is the source of probably the best joke that came out of the end of the campaign,

00:07:40.480 where on Twitter someone noted that with her election that Brian Pallister was now the second

00:07:46.880 best basketball player at the legislature. She is—was not only a star with the Westman around

00:07:52.960 2004, 5-6, the U of W, but was on Canada's national team. That was—as Scott Taylor, my old friend and

00:08:00.800 colleague said, that wins Twitter today, which was—which it did. However, what lost Twitter was the way CBC

00:08:08.880 then, like, immediately started to portray her election. They ran a headline that she made

00:08:15.200 history as the first black MLA elected to the Manitoba legislature. I—within—you're not—I see

00:08:22.800 this, and right away I'm going, what are you talking about? What about Audrey Gordon? Like, she's not the

00:08:28.880 first. This isn't a race to count the ballots. Somebody being declared first is irrelevant in the

00:08:35.640 annals of history. This has—it's not like which twin was born first. Yeah.

00:08:41.960 It's completely irrelevant which news desk declared somebody elected before somebody else.

00:08:47.000 CBC didn't give a crap. They saw the opportunity to glorify, uh, Uzoma again, uh, and proclaim her the

00:08:54.840 first elected, uh, black legislator. Within 10 minutes of me tweeting, hey, that's not right,

00:09:04.120 because they're all sworn in at the same time, which actually will be the day that this airs,

00:09:09.800 on the 25th of September. So the headline was changed to,

00:09:13.320 Trio of Black MLAs Make History by Winning Seats in the Legislature. But even then,

00:09:18.920 they couldn't help themselves. And in the story that they, uh, followed that one with,

00:09:25.560 where they talked about, uh, uh, Asaguara, uh, a colleague, Jamie Moses, knocked off the only

00:09:32.200 Conservative cabinet minister to lose, Colleen Mayer, Métis, a member of the Métis Nation,

00:09:36.760 uh, was minister of, I think, Crown Services. Colleen was knocked off in St. Vitale, which has

00:09:40.920 been traditionally an NDP riding for the most part. It's a battleground every time. And, uh, Audrey Gordon.

00:09:47.160 So now the follow-up story is, let's meet our 13 rookie MLAs. And CBC leads off,

00:09:52.600 of course, with their favorite basketball player. Now, I sent you the, like, word for word,

00:10:00.520 what was written. And they did, uh, they wrote this up in a way where they talked about, uh,

00:10:06.440 she's a nurse, a member of a women's health clinic boards. They named the place. Experience in, uh,

00:10:12.280 working with addictions and poverty, uh, history as an athlete, the teams that she made mentors,

00:10:19.240 young athletes, first black, one of the first black MLAs, uh, first black queer MLA, because

00:10:25.480 she's got to be first at something, but she can't be the first black anymore. So let's bring up

00:10:29.640 something completely irrelevant. Right. Completely irrelevant to the credentials of anybody running

00:10:37.720 for public office is who or what they sleep with. Uh, first black queer MLA building on previous

00:10:46.280 community work with the queer people of color Winnipeg. So they've established her woke credentials

00:10:52.600 out the yin yang, right? Yeah. They take three paragraphs quoting her on different matters,

00:10:59.960 in particular, this, uh, uh, reflecting our communities, uh, and that she founded this, uh,

00:11:05.960 this, uh, queer, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, activist group, I guess is what it's called.

00:11:11.320 All right. And then they mentioned she was one of their top, uh, put CBC top 40 under 40 finalists.

00:11:16.840 So they put her over seven or eight different ways, four paragraphs quoting her. Now they go to

00:11:23.480 Audrey Gordon, conservative that was, uh, elected in, uh, Southdale, pretty much adjacent to St.

00:11:29.160 Patel and Audrey's run before, uh, I think she ran provincially and federally and lost previously.

00:11:34.200 And they go through her background, 25 years experience working in the public sector,

00:11:39.320 worked for the regional health care, uh, uh, the Winnipeg regional health authority as director

00:11:44.040 of the home care pro, uh, program, a masters of this, a bachelor of arts certified in counseling,

00:11:50.120 served on a number of education, health boards, and as a volunteer at her local church.

00:11:55.160 Now that doesn't have nearly the detail that you heard about the NDP candidate. Uh, and I guess if

00:12:02.280 Audrey Gordon, uh, was not heterosexually married for 33 years, but was a queer person,

00:12:08.680 I guess they'd have to come up with some other way of being the NDP MLA first at black and something

00:12:14.520 and something. So I went to the candidate website going, you know, that's if that might be grade 12

00:12:24.520 level journalism about it, about a candidate might be okay. Senior high Audrey in the first paragraph,

00:12:34.520 extensive public service experience, active community volunteer, and a small business owner.

00:12:39.720 Now you would think that somebody being a business owner is significant in their entry into government,

00:12:45.640 at least for people that care if their elected officials know anything about business.

00:12:49.800 She's not just experienced in, uh, in the public sector. Director of strategic initiatives at the

00:13:00.200 WHA with 15,000 clients and 4,500 staff under her direction. Successfully implemented, uh, uh, projects

00:13:13.480 for, uh, ranging from childcare, uh, to long-term care, improving the delivery of healthcare. Now,

00:13:19.960 improving the delivery of healthcare when healthcare was the overriding issue in this Manitoba election,

00:13:24.920 you'd think this is something that journalists go, wow, on the government benches, this is somebody

00:13:30.920 who has the experience to tell Brian Pallister what it's like. Yep. Whoa, not to the CBC.

00:13:38.680 Why mention actual qualifications? Now, before she got to the WHA, Audrey Gordon, special assistant to

00:13:48.680 the minister of health, uh, assistant to the deputy minister of labor and immigration, director of the

00:13:54.520 multiculturalism secretary. These are major jobs inside ministerial offices with access to cabinet.

00:14:03.960 This isn't just somebody who worked in the public sector for 25 years, like she was, you know,

00:14:09.880 stamping application forms at a welfare office. But again, the CBC, oh, they mentioned her, um, uh,

00:14:17.560 BA degree, didn't mention she was Dean's List, left out one of her certificates in change management,

00:14:23.080 which considering what government, what the Pallister government is doing is important that people

00:14:28.120 understand the nature of change management. Even her volunteering was diminished. Uh, I didn't see

00:14:34.520 anything, although I'm sure she's involved in her church. I didn't see anything about it in her,

00:14:38.840 in this candidate write-up. They might've looked at another. She volunteers with Salome Mission.

00:14:43.320 Salome Mission is, uh, uh, not only a homeless shelter, but as a soup kitchen, they feed people.

00:14:49.400 They're in the midst of a capital campaign to expand to a, I think it's 300 beds, uh, for, for,

00:14:56.360 you know, interim, uh, shelter for the homeless. People have volunteered for Salome Mission. They

00:15:02.360 are doing it for the glory. Believe me. Now, on the other hand, there are a lot of conservatives

00:15:07.400 that volunteer there. Maybe that's why CBC is not aware of how important it is, how significant it is.

00:15:13.160 You're going and naming, uh, where, uh, where the NDP candidate has volunteered, uh, you know,

00:15:20.360 women's health clinic. I mean, that has a certain status, uh, particularly among the left. Why not

00:15:25.480 mention Salome Mission? The fact that she's volunteered with the Arthur Morrow Center for

00:15:29.480 Peace and Justice. So to summarize, here's a candidate who is second in the list of meet your rookie

00:15:35.800 MLAs behind their favorite. Okay. Who's a business owners worked at two ministers offices at the highest

00:15:42.600 level, delivered programming, employing 4,500 people, had one, an extra, uh, uh, professional

00:15:51.000 certificate, was a Dean's on the Dean's list for one of her degrees, uh, directed the multicultural

00:15:57.480 division, which again, CBC being woke, you'd think you would make sure your audience knew that she's

00:16:03.000 involved in not just multicultural affairs, but multicultural funding decisions, volunteers at a

00:16:08.840 homeless shelter in a soup kitchen. They didn't get one quote from Audrey Gordon for their profile of

00:16:13.560 her. They diminished her professional and community standing as much as they possibly could.

00:16:18.840 They ignored the fact that all the rookie MLAs are elected 13 new faces. She is by far, by far the

00:16:26.600 most likely to end up in a cabinet position and have actual impact on the lives of Manitobans.

00:16:33.240 But to CBC, she's the wrong kind of black woman. Right. She's the wrong kind of rookie MLA. She's from

00:16:40.920 a Commonwealth country. So she didn't face the, um, adjustment, the struggle that Asagwara from

00:16:48.680 Nigeria and Jamie Moses, I don't recall where he was from. I think it might've been Nigeria too. One of

00:16:53.400 the other NDP, the other, the third, uh, uh, uh, MLA, uh, that was elected. She's the wrong kind,

00:17:00.200 literally. And, and, and, you know, I thought about whether to say this publicly, but I can draw

00:17:04.120 no other conclusion. If she was an NDP candidate and elected by the NDP, we would have heard all

00:17:10.280 sorts of things, but instead she's from a Commonwealth country in a heterosexual marriage for 33 years.

00:17:15.160 She's churchgoing and conservative. CBC is not going to quote her. CBC is not going to tell the public

00:17:20.920 what her, what her extensive, uh, you know, she's, she's more qualified for cabinet than the number of

00:17:28.440 people that have been put in cabinet in this province in this century so far. And CBC, you

00:17:33.800 know, first they, they, uh, try to, uh, elevate Asagwara by saying that she's first, uh, to being

00:17:41.640 elected, which was not really the case and not relevant. And then they still find a way to push

00:17:47.160 their favorite and to try to dampen down, uh, somebody from the conservative party, Audrey Gordon.

00:17:53.160 And I saw a premier pollister greet Audrey when she came in, it was a, a, a tight race until I

00:17:59.240 have a feeling it was the advance bowl to put her over by 500 is within about a hundred votes. Um,

00:18:05.320 up until then against the NDP candidate, a teacher who, uh, uh, who I revealed had

00:18:09.240 garnishment orders executed. Uh, it's amazing how, if you're in a financial advisor, you can

00:18:13.960 lose your license for it. But if you're like on the public payroll, a teacher, Nanny Fontaine,

00:18:18.520 for instance, in MLA had a garnishment for not paying a speeding ticket, uh, uh, Gordon beat

00:18:24.600 Mishkowski and she was very emotional when she walked into the hall because she felt she had

00:18:31.640 almost let the team down and Pallister. And you saw the pictures on my, on my blog. Pallister was

00:18:37.800 comforting Audrey Gordon. Don't worry about it. I watched him talk to her like face to face,

00:18:44.840 the respect that Brian has. Everybody respects Audrey Gordon, except for the CBC.

00:18:52.200 You know, we saw a lot of the same things happening in the Alberta election. We had some

00:18:55.880 highly qualified female conservative candidates. Uh, the one that comes to the top of my head is

00:19:01.800 Ava Kyriakos. She, um, is a persecuted Christian from the Middle East, highly qualified woman.

00:19:09.560 And she had made some comments about Islamic extremism, which makes sense since she herself

00:19:16.200 experienced that persecution while in the Middle East. And she was, uh, basically run out of her

00:19:23.160 ability to be a candidate. And she's the perfect kind of candidate, accomplished woman, understands the

00:19:29.000 issues, um, a minority, if you care about those sorts of things. And yet, because she said the wrong

00:19:35.240 things, she was excoriated by the likes of the CBC and the left. Although I, I'm repeating myself by

00:19:41.240 making a distinction there and she wasn't able to run. She didn't say the wrong thing, but she didn't say

00:19:45.880 the wrong things. No, she didn't. Can you imagine, can you imagine, uh, Sharansky in Israel?

00:19:56.200 Uh, let's say you had emigrated, uh, Nathan Sharansky had emigrated to North America and started

00:20:01.080 talking about his experience, uh, being persecuted, uh, by the Kremlin being, it's, you know, uh,

00:20:07.240 being sentenced to a miserable, uh, barely existence, soul crushing experience in a gulag.

00:20:15.160 And, and nowadays it would be wrong. You know, oh, don't talk about how you're persecuted as a Jew

00:20:20.760 by, uh, communists. Give me a break. But this, this sneering at, in particular at Christian women,

00:20:33.720 um, it's, it's, it undermines the, it undermines the willpower of the public to entrust media outlets

00:20:45.560 that engage in that trusting them with any of our stories about what goes on in the community.

00:20:52.360 Because when you're sneering at somebody, some people from certain religions,

00:20:59.160 but don't do it to like everybody, if you're going to make fun of everybody, because you don't think

00:21:03.240 that people who are religious, you know, they undermine secular society. I don't agree with it,

00:21:07.320 but it's a, you know, it's a kind of point of view. It's fair. It's fair. At least it's fair.

00:21:11.800 Yeah. The way I, uh, I, I'm no champion of conservative, um, I don't mean necessarily

00:21:18.360 conservative party, but conservative Christian women, I'm no champion of it. I don't go out of

00:21:23.240 my way looking for it or finding candidates to, you know, cover or interview or anything like that.

00:21:28.120 But observationally, um, if this was being done to Jewish candidates who were like Jewish Orthodox

00:21:34.520 candidates, and for all I know it has, and I just haven't caught it because maybe it happened to

00:21:38.280 somebody in Toronto or Montreal. Jewish community would not, believe me, Jewish businesses would

00:21:43.720 start pulling their advertising for those media outlets. If Orthodox women candidates started

00:21:47.960 getting talked about and treated and, and, and as I said, dampened down their public image, uh,

00:21:54.600 because of this, uh, sneering from the, the journalistic left. Uh, I, I, I feel sorry.

00:22:03.640 It's not right. I feel sorry for people that have these beliefs that feel that they've got to go and

00:22:09.400 then know that they're going to have to defend having them in the modern political environment.

00:22:13.240 That is certainly not what Canada is about. And that is not the post-national state anybody would

00:22:20.680 have, would have dreamed of that people's religion can't be worn proudly as part of who they are and

00:22:26.280 what they bring to public life. So let's move from the first black MLAs in Manitoba to our first black

00:22:35.640 prime minister. We would be remiss if we didn't talk about Justin Trudeau's blackface, blackface,

00:22:43.240 blackface scandal. I think it's three times now that he's appeared in blackface that has come public.

00:22:48.760 He can't even tell us how many more times there are out there. Um, but you were on the ground in

00:22:54.680 Winnipeg on his blackface apology tour. Um, day one day one of the apology tour. And you were there

00:23:02.520 when he issued that, uh, apology about how all of us need to be better because he wore blackface.

00:23:09.240 What was that like? Yeah. Well, first of all, I don't need to be better about subjects like that.

00:23:15.080 Thank you very much. And neither do the rest of Canadians. Yeah. Um, it was a fluke. Look,

00:23:20.040 the whole thing's a fluke. He, uh, was already scheduled to be in Winnipeg, uh, 2 PM on the 4,

00:23:26.520 2 PM on the Thursday. I don't know what he was going to be doing in the morning. Probably,

00:23:29.480 you know, sticking his head into a daycare or something like that. But the major event was

00:23:33.320 going to be an appearance at the grand mosque on Waverly in South Winnipeg. Uh, uh, Terry do goods

00:23:39.400 writing, um, uh, if I'm remembering correctly. Uh, and of course, Jim Carr, the regional minister would

00:23:45.960 have been there, the other candidates. Uh, but this was to shore up, uh, uh, uh, do good. Who's,

00:23:51.480 uh, I don't know if it's neck and neck. I've, I've heard conflicting stories, but it's generally

00:23:55.560 viewed as a, as a battle to keep that seat. It certainly was a battle for Terry to win it.

00:24:00.120 Uh, and that was scrapped before, before he even got off the plane, the two o'clock at the grand mosque

00:24:04.760 was scrapped. Imagine, uh, after that performance on the plane, walking into a mosque.

00:24:10.920 And so it was scrapped. And then that morning, uh, and I was already scheduled for, uh, my annual

00:24:19.240 physical downtown and hear the notice. And I think it actually might've come from you

00:24:25.000 that, uh, there was an event, uh, in downtown. You know, it's, it's an area that's, you know,

00:24:32.360 part of the greater downtown, but it's its own special area, the exchange district, just north

00:24:35.800 of downtown. And I get out of the doctor's office and, uh, no bad news. Thank God.

00:24:40.280 Uh, and I thought, well, uh, I guess, uh, I guess I can still kick these guys around for

00:24:46.520 a little while still. And I get into the car and I'm two blocks from the street that it's on

00:24:51.800 and like eight blocks north. It's like, how do I not do this? Yeah.

00:24:56.200 Cut up the lane and go. And I'm like right there. Now the, the press release said the corner of King

00:25:01.000 and Banatine, um, the, and this went on the mental of election too. So I'm going to make a plea here for

00:25:07.000 all those of you that are organizing candidates, appearances, political appearances for crying out

00:25:12.440 loud. If something is known by a colloquial name, use it. If it's not well known by the

00:25:17.800 colloquial name, some park, then use the intersection. But like, if it had said old market square,

00:25:24.120 I think that more people would have actually showed up because they would have understand

00:25:26.920 that he wasn't like inside some business or warehouse or something.

00:25:29.880 I don't think they wanted more people to show up. That's what they want. Yeah. I think they

00:25:34.600 wanted just liberal partisans, liberal insiders there, uh, because the people are inconvenient

00:25:39.720 right now. Well, that day they were. So I, I scoot on down there and, uh, uh, the prime minister

00:25:45.880 was fashionably late. Uh, I was able to mingle around. I talked with Marianne Mahaychuk, who was very

00:25:51.400 glad to see me. I know that this audience might find it hard to believe, but I have a lot of

00:25:55.720 of, uh, uh, friendly relations for decades with many of the liberal MLAs or MPs, rather,

00:26:02.280 in Manitoba. Some of them were previously MLAs. Dan Vendell was a city councillor.

00:26:05.800 Kevin Lamoureux, Robbie Ouellette, uh, was very helpful to me in the provincial campaign, actually.

00:26:11.560 So I have a good relationship with the, um, almost all of the liberal MLAs, uh, MPs, rather,

00:26:17.400 in Manitoba from previous, previously knowing them. And so I was able to make the rounds and, uh,

00:26:22.440 was introduced to David Aiken, who, uh, uh, had a good laugh, I think because of, uh, my coverage

00:26:27.400 of, uh, the Manitoba election. That was certainly, you know, not stuff that the national media would

00:26:31.480 have picked up on that local point of view. And, uh, you know, this is the first time,

00:26:36.520 if I can give a bit of an overview of the scene, uh, there was a lot less people than I was expecting.

00:26:42.280 I had never been around an event. I've met two prime ministers previously, Mr. Turner

00:26:47.800 and Mr. Critchin. Uh, when I, I think Turner was prime minister when I met him. Uh, Mr.

00:26:55.720 Critchin was not, he was the, uh, uh, uh, lady in waiting at the time, but I've never seen

00:27:02.680 that kind of security, which is to say the essentially the, the secret service guys.

00:27:07.240 Yeah. I've never seen security up on a rooftop

00:27:10.440 in Winnipeg. And like, I'm watching people craning and they're looking, I'm going, what are

00:27:14.280 they looking at? It's like, Oh, those three guys there. And, uh, you know, having some

00:27:20.440 understanding of this kind of stuff, I scoped it out, so to speak. And they were at every exit

00:27:25.640 point and entrance point. And, um, I made a point of thanking a couple of them because it's thankless

00:27:31.080 service to do what they do and protect our, our national leaders. And, uh, the, the way it was set

00:27:40.520 up, there was like a press row right in front and, uh, over the, the, the microphone wasn't put like

00:27:47.400 right in the middle of the field, the stand. So, you know, about 40 feet, 50 feet to the left,

00:27:53.320 to the other side of the microphone, Tom Brodbeck of the Winnipeg free press columnist,

00:27:57.640 he hits up that position. I take a look, I'm staring right at Tom. The microphone's like

00:28:01.640 right between us. I realized nobody's actually standing here at the three o'clock position and I'm

00:28:05.720 10 feet from the microphone. So I'm not moving. Uh, so I spoke with some of the people around me.

00:28:12.840 This is how I ascertained that, uh, there was about 35 at least Red River College journalism

00:28:18.680 students there, as well as, uh, about another 70 or so. Cause I turned to these kids behind me who

00:28:24.360 were like talking about, Oh, if I stand over here. And so obviously James turned to journalism students

00:28:29.640 and they were quite shocked that I knew James. And the first time I met him was at a crime scene

00:28:34.120 looking for, you know, any evidence the cops might have missed blood splatters or whatever.

00:28:38.680 And, uh, I asked them, how many people here do you know? And they told about a hundred.

00:28:43.480 Well, okay. And take off a hundred media and the various liberals. And there was maybe a hundred non,

00:28:50.120 non-affiliated disinterested, so to speak, parties, um, that were there. The prime minister walked up

00:28:56.040 fashionably late. Uh, he was, you know, it was aside from the day Pierre died or, or maybe the funeral.

00:29:05.640 This is, this was the worst day of his life. I, I have no doubt about that. Um, it took about three or

00:29:13.880 four remarks in before finally, uh, when he said that he was asking for forgiveness, then he got a burst

00:29:21.320 of applause. It was small. It was light. And because I was so close to the murderer's row of,

00:29:28.600 of, uh, uh, MPs, uh, standing, you know, 20 feet behind him, uh, audibly, I could pick up where

00:29:35.560 the applause was coming from. There's maybe 40 liberals in that crowd. There was no true mania

00:29:40.520 going on whatsoever. Uh, David Aiken asked the most, uh, penetrating question. I mean,

00:29:47.400 Larry Kush, the free press was, I think up second kid, maybe he was first or second and Canadian

00:29:52.120 press. And they tried, but when Aiken pointed out that the job of prime minister wasn't invented

00:29:57.240 for you to work out your issues and Trudeau just obviously is never considered for a minute stepping

00:30:02.520 down. He's never considered for a minute, uh, the best interest of the party. He's never considered

00:30:06.680 for a minute. The impression he has now made as our leader on the international stage, uh, by his,

00:30:15.320 nobody cares about what he did in high school, uh, in this, in this matter, it is perhaps a reflection

00:30:23.560 on his parents, but as it was pointed out to me, it's probably a reflection on his nanny.

00:30:29.080 Cause who knows who was taking care of him at John Brebeuf school in Montreal when he was in grade 12.

00:30:34.840 Uh, 1990 dressing up for a sketch singing.

00:30:43.160 I don't expect him to have known better. Uh, it is more a reflection on his parents.

00:30:49.080 Notably when he was asked whether his father knew he sides at that question for about three minutes.

00:30:55.240 And no matter how often the media in Winnipeg said, well, he's asked about what his father Pierre

00:30:59.720 would have said. And they go right to the clip leaving out his three minutes of baffle gab.

00:31:05.000 And the fact is he didn't really answer the question. It is, I think, uh, an interesting

00:31:09.400 question, whether his parents knew that he had a habit of dressing up in blackface to be the life

00:31:14.360 of the party. But what him doing it at the age of 29 demonstrated a, a real gap in his judgment.

00:31:23.240 And, uh, to have not talked about it all these years and for not to come out in candidate vetting,

00:31:29.640 that is what I think is really irked a lot of people that the liberals jump all over anything

00:31:36.120 about any other candidate from any other party. But when it comes to their own and their own leader,

00:31:41.960 they're not so fast. Um, Brittany Hobson, I want to mention Brittany Hobson of APTN,

00:31:48.600 who she, as she put it, I want to change gears for a minute. I've never seen Brittany before,

00:31:52.440 never met her, but I have some friends over at APTN and she, uh, there were some people who were

00:31:59.240 angry with her because she deviated from the blackface issue and started asking about teen suicides

00:32:05.160 and what the report that had just come out and what his government was going to do about it.

00:32:09.240 And what, and of course it's all our fault. Of course, uh, he didn't really have anything

00:32:16.040 substantive to say, but she pressed him on it. And if there was one group besides liberals or Red

00:32:24.040 River college students who was well represented at this gathering of about 300 people in downtown

00:32:28.200 Winnipeg, it was people of Aboriginal descent and appearance. And, uh, that meant something to them.

00:32:36.600 Yeah. You could see visibly that their issue was brought up. It went back to the blackface

00:32:41.400 business. Uh, the only heckling, no, it shows you how polite Winnipeg is. There was, if, if Andrew

00:32:50.360 Scheer had come to Winnipeg and had to deal with a similar scandal, those, you know, Antifa, all sorts of

00:33:00.920 protest groups, banging pots and pans, that demonstration, uh, culture would have been out

00:33:07.400 in full force harassing prime minister Scheer. But when it's prime minister Trudeau, it was as polite

00:33:15.400 and totally Winnipeg as could be. When he left, he started getting the gears as he was walking out

00:33:22.360 from Aboriginal activists, about 20 or 30 of them. And it was about, you know, observe the treaties

00:33:27.640 and this and that. I, in watching it, uh, his fielding the questions, uh, he was, he ended up

00:33:36.120 face to face with me, which shocked me because when it was over and, you know, I kind of missed,

00:33:40.120 missed out the opportunity to crack the joke in my blog post about it. He came to his right, like,

00:33:45.800 about, say, four feet, five feet in front of me, um, walking a line towards, I couldn't figure out,

00:33:51.880 but it was, there was a picnic bench in the park. Uh, and he was looking for some guy in particular,

00:33:57.080 who I assumed, I only got a glimpse of him. He looked like an older Aboriginal guy and he's calling

00:34:02.120 out his name. So here's the prime minister going, Romeo. And I completely missed the Shakespearean joke.

00:34:11.240 And to greet him and then he makes, as he turns to his right, he's going to make his way out of the, um,

00:34:15.960 you know, the crowd dive. And as he makes his way out, I, he's like right beside me.

00:34:20.200 I take a picture of shaking hands with whoever this name was. I think it might've been one of

00:34:23.240 the Red River college students. And then I'm face to face with him. Like he's, he's not over.

00:34:28.760 It's just no snow. I mean, it's like palace, they're only different. Yeah. And I looked at this guy and,

00:34:34.600 um, he's aged visibly, visibly compared to the boy wonder that everybody got behind.

00:34:42.840 Uh, I, I didn't really want to do anything that was going to startle him or, or cause a reaction

00:34:52.520 because, uh, that wasn't the day for it considering how many, uh, uh, you know, we used to call them

00:34:59.320 higher goons, uh, were around. So, uh, he looks me straight in the eyes. It's nice to meet you.

00:35:04.120 Well, pleasure to meet you too. And that was that I, you know, I, I could have played journalists

00:35:08.120 at that moment, but, uh, I didn't think that was really a good idea. Uh, at that moment,

00:35:13.160 he's wants to leave. Let's see what happens in the aftermath. I talked with people afterwards,

00:35:17.320 some of the MPs with the, I spoke with Tom Brodbeck and the free press, a few other journalists,

00:35:21.720 and with a lot of liberal staffers who were just clinging to hope that this wasn't a big deal,

00:35:27.400 that he was able to explain it. Uh, as we saw that, you know, that wasn't going to work as

00:35:32.920 illustrated by Thornhill, by a debate or a town hall in Thornhill. Uh, I think it was actually

00:35:38.040 that same day, the 19th, that evening. Um, I don't think that, I don't think it worked.

00:35:45.320 What he did in Winnipeg worked. I think that it's been proven that it didn't work.

00:35:49.080 Yeah. Uh, and, uh, I repeat what I've said a number of times. I feel sorry for my friends

00:35:54.520 that are affiliated with the liberal party that are good people that continue to have to

00:35:57.720 continue to get buried by corrupt liberal corruption and liberal nonsense. And, and increasingly,

00:36:04.600 a leader who just very apparently, uh, is sees himself as special and doesn't realize when special

00:36:15.560 stops and, uh, not being more special than the rest of us begins. Yeah. I mean, I think there's

00:36:23.640 some sense that this is his hereditary role. Like, like the prime ministership is, um, it's like

00:36:30.360 in the Royal family that he's inherited it, he's entitled to it. And by God, he's going to hang on

00:36:35.320 to it. But the longer he hangs onto it, the more, you know, the more it appears to be selfish that he

00:36:42.440 will maybe, you know, from my lips to God's ears, destroy the liberal party on the way out the door,

00:36:48.840 um, because he refuses to relinquish power when, I mean, he really has, uh, whether or not liberal

00:36:56.360 party wants to believe in whether or not Canadian voters are going to reflect that. I think that

00:37:02.680 Justin Trudeau has ultimately damaged our, um, reputation on an international scale and our

00:37:09.880 ability to negotiate and go to meetings. Like imagine going to the G seven now or sitting down with,

00:37:15.800 I don't know, the Sultan of Brunei now, um, and representing Canada in any sort of reasonable

00:37:21.000 way. I think that ship has long since sailed. And now I agree with you. He's he's, uh, uh,

00:37:27.640 he, I, I don't measure qualifications by IQ and IQ can be a deceptive measure, but he is

00:37:39.480 not cut of a serious cloth or serious enough cloth to be in a position of representing our country.

00:37:46.280 in, in serious matters of economics of international security. He just doesn't make it. I referenced

00:37:54.680 Thorneil. There was a, a town hall put on by B'nai B'rith, uh, that night and, uh, uh, Peter Kent,

00:38:03.640 the conservative incumbent, uh, he went right at them, uh, uh, at this issue. He, uh, brought up how a liberal

00:38:12.840 candidate, thanks to B'nai B'rith's research had just been turfed. Uh, the liberal candidate,

00:38:18.280 Gary Gladstone, who I surmise is Jewish. Uh, he said he accepted Trudeau's apology, uh, and said,

00:38:24.600 actions speak louder than words, which of course that just boomerangs back on, uh,

00:38:29.800 uh, nobody, the blackface incident had nothing to do with words. It had to do with actions.

00:38:35.640 So that really doesn't bail Justin out on that. Um, uh, the green, I want to mention one other

00:38:42.920 thing in, in Thorneil that we'll look at other, uh, uh, issues, uh, relating to the federal election.

00:38:49.480 The green party candidate is Josh, Josh Rackless. Uh, I'm unfamiliar with him. He's a Toronto guy,

00:38:54.200 uh, and, uh, uh, evidently Jewish. Uh, he's running for the green party in Thornhill,

00:39:03.960 and he head on discussed the problem that the green party has when it comes to Israel and Jewish

00:39:13.640 people. My party is wrong for voting for BDS. I want to change that. That is probably the single

00:39:21.320 bravest statement any candidate for parliament has made thus far. And it actually, to her credit,

00:39:27.960 it proves what Elizabeth may said, uh, initially when it came to cat to the party, not having a

00:39:35.000 position on abortion legislation or whatever, that members are free to bring forward policy for debate.

00:39:44.440 And this is, and I discussed this with a green candidate here in Manitoba, not a federal and

00:39:48.920 a provincial one that why are people complaining that a party saying it's open to discussing things,

00:39:53.960 that, that every vote isn't whipped, that maybe there should be some discussion about, uh, uh,

00:40:02.280 not to beat the drum, but Canada not having a poor, uh, uh, uh, uh, any laws pertaining to, uh,

00:40:09.880 to last semester abortions. We're an outlier in this. And, and that is something that needs to be

00:40:15.560 genuinely discussed and, and, and, and, and, and evaluated. And here's a guy where like,

00:40:22.040 can you imagine in the green party being saying BDS is wrong? It's like touching the third rail.

00:40:26.840 And Josh Rackless to his credit demonstrated that for all the, the wackiness around green

00:40:34.040 party candidates and their policies as a political party, where a candidate knows they can say,

00:40:41.800 I think my party's wrong. I'm going to ask my party to change. Holy crap. That to me is really

00:40:48.600 impressive. Uh, how big it went over in Thornhill, I'm not sure, but I thought it was notable enough

00:40:53.720 that it, it should be, um, mentioned. Well, could, could he have said anything other than that?

00:40:59.880 It'd have been an eye breath debate. I suppose. There's plenty, there's plenty of left wing Jews.

00:41:04.760 That's true. Try to split hairs. Oh, BDS is, is, is only about policy. And it's, and then they ignore

00:41:11.880 the fact that it's enforced as Joe Oliver has pointed out, it's enforced against, uh, not just

00:41:17.320 disputed territories, but anything comes out of Israel. It's not just, uh, you know, a question

00:41:21.480 of olive oil or, or, or, uh, or, uh, cookies or, or, or something or soda stream. It involves, uh,

00:41:30.840 science, science, academia, arts. So he could have tried to split hairs and very bravely that young man

00:41:38.520 did not ultimately in looking for the Jewish vote, the Trudeau government in trying to get reelected.

00:41:46.920 There's only that I can tell. I may have missed something, but it seems to be the most Jews,

00:41:51.320 the most significant thing that they've done was not something that was really well accepted by Jews

00:41:59.080 in Canada, by a lot of other people, which was a sort of funding to, uh, the United Nations, uh,

00:42:03.800 relief organization to UNRWA, which has textbooks that, uh, that are among the most vile that in

00:42:11.960 their, in their refugee schools about Jews and about Israel. Uh, uh, the Harper government put a

00:42:19.720 stop to funding that organization and the Trudeau government restored funding to it, uh, uh, which

00:42:27.240 is preposterous because it calls for the elimination of the state of Israel. And here's, uh, uh, the liberal

00:42:32.360 party saying, well, we believe in a two state solution, but we'll fund organizations, including

00:42:36.920 from the United Nations that don't believe in a two state solution. You know, go figure.

00:42:41.640 Well, I know going back to the green party, just for a second. Um, they are, I suppose you do make

00:42:46.680 a good point. They are open-minded. They are allowing debate on certain issues, but on the other hand,

00:42:51.560 it feels as though sometimes they are so open-minded that their brains have rolled right out. Uh,

00:42:56.440 they're running that green party candidate. I think she's in her name escapes me, but she's in Andrew

00:43:01.800 Scheer's riding in Saskatchewan and she called Israel. The state of Israel is like a serial

00:43:08.760 rapist. She said, I mean, and we know that, uh, Oh, again, another name escaping me, a green party

00:43:15.480 candidate perennial candidate here in Alberta. I think it was in West Yellowhead ran repeatedly

00:43:20.920 for the green party. She's currently in prison in Germany for Holocaust denial. She ran repeatedly,

00:43:27.000 repeatedly, repeatedly for the greens, um, never hid her track record of Holocaust denial.

00:43:32.520 She went on trial in Germany and she's in prison there. Um, and the greens have never really been

00:43:38.040 held to account. There's never been a reckoning for the greens with regard to this sort of stuff.

00:43:44.360 Uh, I, you know, this would be a bigger issue if they had any hope of, uh,

00:43:50.840 influencing parliament, you know, and it's, look, it's, it's, it's not untypical of, uh,

00:43:59.880 it's not untypical of the far left to just be, have such an open tent that it ends up just having

00:44:06.600 these big gusts of stupidity blow right through it. Um, candidates that say things like that

00:44:13.080 and are allowed to stand undermine the credibility of the leader. Ultimately,

00:44:17.080 uh, the NDPs, but as we'll discuss, the NDP's got a far bigger problem. The, you know, the liberals,

00:44:23.400 uh, then, then the greens do the liberals revoked, uh, Hassan Gillette's candidacy,

00:44:27.400 um, in Quebec. Uh, he's still, I think running as an independent. Yes. Uh, he had some lovely things

00:44:33.400 to say. Uh, but there are a number of other candidates, uh, that, uh, that including liberals

00:44:41.400 that are, are controversial, uh, Samir Zuberi. Yes. Uh, who's, uh, in, uh, Pierre Font-Dollard,

00:44:49.320 uh, this fellow was evidently involved in harassing Jewish students and pro-Israel students at Concordia

00:44:57.160 University earlier in the early 2000s. He made at one point a remark that made it seem like he

00:45:04.520 was doubting that Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9-11. He tried to walk that back. He's, you know,

00:45:11.320 worked with all faith communities. He's, uh, responds to the rise of far right extremism,

00:45:16.440 because they never recognized extremism from the left. He trots out his token Jew as, uh, uh, as, uh,

00:45:24.200 proof that, uh, he's, uh, uh, an even-handed fellow when it comes to, to these matters. Uh, it's a

00:45:31.480 lesbian reform rabbi he trots out. So she represents perhaps 15% of, of the views of Canadian Jews,

00:45:38.920 uh, which are by and large, much more conservative and orthodox and traditional.

00:45:42.840 Um, most notably in the one story, and I think it was a McLean story that I found on this guy,

00:45:48.040 uh, he was previously associated with the Council on American Islamic Relations Canada,

00:45:52.920 now known as the National Council of Canadian Muslims. Why didn't they call it Care Canada?

00:45:57.560 Yeah. Oh, because then people would know what it was, affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:46:02.040 Yep. So here's an example of a guy who's being allowed, the Zuberi who's being allowed to stand.

00:46:09.000 Now, the NDP, they have damn near a caucus of anti-Semites, uh, both incumbents and candidates

00:46:16.360 running. Uh, Miranda Gallo, uh, is, uh, a candidate in Saint Laurent. In 2016, B'nai Brith acquired video

00:46:24.360 of her in 2016, putting a boycott label of some sort, a BDS label of some sort, uh, onto, uh,

00:46:31.560 Israeli products on, uh, in a store. Uh, B'nai Brith has, as I understand it, not gotten a response

00:46:38.520 with regards to, uh, whether any action will be taken by, uh, Jagmeet Singh. Um, uh,

00:46:47.880 defacing a product like that is a criminal code offense. It's been going on a lot in Toronto in

00:46:52.600 the last while. Uh, uh, uh, oh, I'm sorry. I'm seeing now the party said Gallo's made aware of their,

00:47:01.000 of their two-state policy and she supports it, but you can't support a two-state solution and be

00:47:06.920 deep criminally defacing Israeli products. Um, she's not the only one in running in Montreal

00:47:13.960 for the NDP. It's got some kind of history. Uh, Nima Sharouf and Laurier Saint-Marie is a member

00:47:19.320 of the Quebec Soliditaire party, Solidaire party, which is officially endorsed BDS. Her husband was,

00:47:25.800 uh, uh, demonstrated outside a store selling Israeli footwear in 2010.

00:47:30.200 And he's, I think, also, also part of, yeah, and I didn't remember that.

00:47:34.120 I did.

00:47:35.960 Because it's like, that's pretty, that's really small potatoes protesting shoes.

00:47:42.040 Like, what, what was behind that? And I, I only came across this yesterday in researching for,

00:47:46.760 for our appearance today. Uh, so she's well tied. This is a candidate Sharouf, well tied to, uh, BDS.

00:47:53.240 Um, uh, Zahia El Masri, who's, uh, nominated in a Hunsik Karchevil. Uh, she's been a high-profile BDS

00:48:03.800 activist for over 12 years, uh, appeared at a conference, uh, alongside Omar Barghouti,

00:48:10.840 one of the founders of BDS. She took part in Israeli Apartheid week at the University of Concordia.

00:48:16.600 So we see that she's a real friend of the Jewish people and of his, uh, and of, uh, Canada's

00:48:20.840 relationship with Israel. Uh, there's an incumbent in Rosemont, Le Petit Patri, Alexander Boulderice,

00:48:26.120 who's, uh, the deputy leader for Jagmeet Singh. He's, uh, uh, uh, was a former CUPE member. Uh,

00:48:32.920 so we already know which way he's going to be leaning when the wind blows. Uh, he asked the

00:48:37.400 House of Commons, uh, when there was a revamping of the Canada Zero Free Trade Agreement, uh,

00:48:42.520 why the government rejected an NDP amendment to label products from the disputed territories. He's

00:48:48.120 again, a BDS. Oh, just put a gold star on them. Just put a gold star on them. They love that.

00:48:53.560 They would do that. That would make it easy for everybody. Uh, and, uh, an MP from Sherbrooke,

00:49:01.240 uh, Pierre-Luc Dussault is the revenue critic. He's the one that introduced the motion or introduced

00:49:04.760 the petition to have CRA investigate the Jewish National Fund. Again, the favorite topic of our

00:49:09.960 friends in Antifa, uh, independent Jewish voices and all those other self-hating Jewish Marxists,

00:49:14.760 uh, that have not learned the lessons of history. But, um, you know, as I discussed in my notes and

00:49:21.400 showed you, you know, none of this activity in terms of the NDP and candidates, uh, who caused

00:49:29.000 legitimate concern among the Jewish community, Jewish citizens, Jewish voters, none of this

00:49:34.200 surprise in a party led by Jagmeet Singh, because while Justin Trudeau has a blind spot when it comes

00:49:40.200 to blackface, Jagmeet Singh has a blind spot to anti-Semites. Yep. He just doesn't see it.

00:49:45.400 Look at Nikki Ashton. This isn't just like a low level problem with the NDP. Nikki Ashton speaks at

00:49:52.520 Nakba Day. Um, we know that Nakba, that that's the catastrophe. It it's, you know, it's the, uh,

00:50:02.120 how the BDS activists described the creation of the state of Israel, a place where, where Jews could

00:50:09.000 always be safe. They describe it as the catastrophe. And that's how Nikki Ashton refers to it. She was

00:50:16.120 very nearly the leader of that party. Yeah. And, uh, uh, Nikki Ashton should, uh, you know, she should

00:50:24.920 insert herself into the Nakba Day march in Toronto next year, uh, so that she can be seen with exactly

00:50:30.280 the kinds of, uh, people that that are affiliated with it so she can stand there and hear the kinds

00:50:35.000 of things that come out of their mouths about Jews, about Israel, about, uh, about the, the, uh,

00:50:41.720 right of the Jewish people to a homeland. Uh, this rewriting of history, uh, the trying to eliminate

00:50:48.760 the, the notion there's been a continuing presence of the Jewish people of the descendants of Abraham

00:50:53.880 for 3000 years. Nikki Ashton should go to Nakba Day so that she can be made to defend it directly.

00:50:59.960 Not saying, well, that's just what you say that. Well, I saw the video, but I wasn't.

00:51:04.360 Go. They should all go. They should all go and be seen for what they are when they participate in

00:51:10.200 that. And, you know, at the same time, they should be asked, what about the 800,000 Jews

00:51:13.800 that were forced from their homes in the Arab countries and given nothing and have never

00:51:17.720 received any reparations, whether it's from Yemen, whether it's from Syria, whether it's from Morocco,

00:51:24.600 from the, the African subcontinent. They never want to address that, uh, whatsoever. Now,

00:51:30.280 with regards to Jagmeet Singh and his blind spot to anti-Semites, uh, there's an activist out of

00:51:37.160 Toronto who, uh, on his Facebook put up a picture of him, uh, posing with a banner to save Yemeni

00:51:43.160 children, uh, which I'm sure he really cares about with the Jagmeet Singh. Uh, and this character is, uh,

00:51:49.720 uh, Faraz is his, uh, colloquial name, I guess, uh, Husseini Al-Najim. And he's invented a group

00:51:56.520 called Canadian Defenders for Human Rights, CD4HR on Facebook. Uh, yeah. And your squint is quite

00:52:02.120 accurate because it's much the, it's much the opposite. Yeah. I was gonna say that's a pretty

00:52:07.400 Orwellian sounding name. I bet you it stands for everything opposite.

00:52:10.920 Yeah. And of course, so Jagmeet Singh would think that this is fabulous because it has the phrase

00:52:16.200 human rights in it. Uh, this fellow has taken video in the last couple of months, uh, outside

00:52:23.720 Jewish synagogues, you know, like casing locations in effect. There's a Muslim, and I don't know if

00:52:29.960 Rebel covered this, Rebel Media covered this. There's a woman in Toronto who I thought was Jewish.

00:52:35.320 It turns out that she's a lapsed Muslim who's very pro-Israel. Uh, yeah. I know who you're talking

00:52:40.680 about. Yeah. Solomon. And this guy with his kid with him, he spots her. And I don't know if he was

00:52:45.560 waiting for her and whatever the supermarket is in the neighborhood, he follows her in. She's trying

00:52:50.520 to get a card. She's got her own kid. Who's like three or four and he's falling and berating her,

00:52:55.080 taping this about, uh, about being a bad Muslim and supportive, so you know, supporting baby killers

00:53:01.560 or whatever he was saying. So he's, there had been a number of police reports made about his

00:53:07.000 activities and about his language. Uh, in, uh, when this picture appeared, uh, on his Facebook,

00:53:14.680 uh, our publisher, the J.ca, Ron East contacted the NDP and sent, uh, uh, an email with regards to

00:53:21.720 this, an inquiry to Jagmedstein. It was on September 7th, still no response pointing out that he's casing

00:53:28.600 that this fellow that you're pictured with, your association is creating a wave of shock and

00:53:33.080 concern within the Jewish community. Uh, he's engaged in provocative actions, casing Jewish

00:53:37.880 properties in North York, intimidating, among others, a Muslim woman who's pro-Israel. Uh,

00:53:43.560 many of these incidents have been reported to police, uh, and Jagmedstein was asked by Ron East

00:53:48.600 to denounce, uh, Mr. Al-Najim and the violent anti-Semitism he stands for and ensure anti-Semitism

00:53:54.920 doesn't have a home within the NDP party. No answer from Jagmedstein. Now it's just a few days ago

00:54:02.920 that, uh, uh, Faraz, who's prone to all sorts of, uh, interesting essays on Facebook, as well as

00:54:12.920 videos. Uh, he goes off on Zionists, uh, specialized in accusations divert people or the conversation

00:54:19.640 from their oppression occupation towards Palestine and Palestinians. We'll talk about how great that

00:54:24.440 occupation is working out in a minute. We swing the Israeli elections. Yeah. But at the end of his,

00:54:29.720 of his diatribe, he says, for those activists and organizations that aren't fully on board

00:54:35.080 and ready for major escalations and sacrifices, we'd like to say, we wish you good luck, but please

00:54:40.920 don't disturb our work or try to defame it because you are not ready for real confrontations. And that's

00:54:46.920 the kind of guy that, um, Jagmedstein will not denounce and, uh, takes photographs with.

00:54:54.840 That sounds like violent rhetoric, or at least it would be described as violent rhetoric if a

00:55:00.920 conservative had said it. That's for darn sure. Now, no, no conservative that I know of in this

00:55:05.640 country would say. Well, of course, of course. Now you did mention the Israeli elections. Um,

00:55:12.360 I'm a follower of Israeli politics. I do my very best, but they have proportional representation.

00:55:19.880 And so it is an absolute zoo trying to figure out who actually won an election. Uh, and it takes

00:55:29.320 weeks to figure it out. Can you give us a Coles notes version of what the heck is happening in Israel

00:55:34.920 right now? All I, all I really understand is the Coles notes version. The parliamentary system is

00:55:40.120 falling apart. Uh, you have to have a certain threshold of votes or percentage to be then able to

00:55:47.720 get a seat in the Knesset. And then that's based not on candidates running in ridings or wards or

00:55:53.880 whatever. It's based on a list. So the parties put out a list of their top, say 50 candidates and the

00:56:01.400 major parties, uh, Likud and blue and white, they figured that, you know, the top 35 ish have a

00:56:07.800 chance of becoming an MK, a member of the Knesset. And so this system, it's become very dysfunctional

00:56:14.200 because of the level of horse trading that's needed to cobble together a coalition with these

00:56:19.640 other minority parties. Uh, now, um, this also creates a weakness because as part of that horse

00:56:28.600 trading, um, if you don't have anybody high enough on your list from say a certain region or a certain,

00:56:39.080 uh, you know, uh, community, I mean, it's very unlikely, but I, cause I don't know the names of

00:56:43.720 small communities or smaller neighbors would be an example, but let's say you don't have anybody on

00:56:47.560 your list from, uh, Haifa. Okay. Uh, uh, uh, and another party does, you need to have some sort

00:56:55.480 of deal where government's got representation in Haifa. So you're going to make a deal with the

00:56:59.640 party whose number four candidate is from Haifa. So you're cutting deals, not only based on politics,

00:57:05.320 but you're also cutting them on the base of making sure that you've got regional representation

00:57:10.840 in your government. I know it's not so complicated. So a nun unnecessarily. So doesn't have to be that

00:57:20.040 way. Just run ridings. Well, which for whatever reason, and I, I, I've never studied it. So I don't

00:57:26.600 know why that. I mean, I could see at the beginning, it wasn't highly populated. So you go on the base of

00:57:33.080 lists, but at some point that it just seems to me, this is it's collapsing under its own weight as,

00:57:38.840 as court cases do. So what happened is the, the majority of the voters are, are, are Jewish,

00:57:47.480 but there is so much infighting now about these coalitions that form to prop up governments.

00:57:54.280 And the left labor is not immune. They ruled Israel for the first about 30 years from Ben Gurion on

00:58:00.280 until I guess Menachem Begin. Um, the horse trading that Netanyahu and other prime ministers,

00:58:09.480 in this case, Netanyahu have done with the ultra religious parties, where they say, yes,

00:58:14.040 we'll bring our six seats to give you a majority, you know, push you over the line. But we want the

00:58:20.040 ministry of health, or we want the ministry of finance, or they get key ministries where the policy is

00:58:28.040 then dictated, literally dictated by those narrow religious interests. So secular, the, the, the,

00:58:38.440 the secular Jewish population in Israel has grown to a point where

00:58:44.840 they don't agree that there should be no public transit, maybe not through certain neighborhoods.

00:58:49.240 But what do you mean you can't take a bus on, on Saturday? I did not realize till this week,

00:58:56.440 let's say, let's say, uh,

00:59:01.480 one of the rebel correspondents is in Israel and ends up in the hospital, gets hit in the head with a rock

00:59:07.000 and he's there on a Shabbos and we go, we cannot buy food in the hospital. The vending machines are

00:59:13.560 turned off. What kind of a, no, it's not my country. I don't like criticizing other countries, but like,

00:59:20.920 that's nuts. The hospital is a public service, uh, that isn't denominational. This isn't where the

00:59:29.080 schools are closed because they're run by the religious orthodox or whatever. So it's no wonder

00:59:33.960 Israelis are fed up. You can't go visit your relatives in the hospital and bring them a tuna sandwich or a

00:59:38.680 can of Dr. Pepper. Like that's, that's bizarre. And so now what, what is happening in these elections

00:59:46.120 where nobody's gaining a clear edge is the resistance as it were between the secular

00:59:56.120 Jewish interests that want the country to be more as it were liberal, less under the thumb of the, of,

01:00:03.720 of what are, you know, in their minds border on Jewish mullahs, right? How is this very different

01:00:10.440 from Iran or Turkey where Erdogan forms partnerships and suddenly becomes more and more Muslim in order

01:00:15.320 to maintain power? Well, it's hit a breaking point in Israeli society. And this is what, what's happened

01:00:21.960 is the Jewish vote is so polarized. The Arab list, meanwhile, um, that was a coalition of all these

01:00:28.600 little Arab parties. And I don't know what all their little subtexts are or aren't, but some of them are,

01:00:33.320 you know, clearly, uh, you know, not exactly friends of a Jewish state, but they voted as a block,

01:00:40.760 coordinated things, and they end up with, um, not exactly a balance of power, but with a lot of influence

01:00:47.160 because the Jewish parties aren't collectively going to, you know, aren't, aren't, um, as interested

01:00:55.080 in forming a unity government as perhaps everybody wishes they were. So one thing that's come out that's

01:01:01.160 been disappointing for Ron and myself is there are a number of people, uh, people that follow the

01:01:07.240 j.ca and, and, and, uh, people that are influential in the Canadian Jewish communities, activists that

01:01:14.360 are talking about the Arab list having influence as, um, you know, a biblical, what's the term I'm looking

01:01:20.680 for? Um, like a prophecy? Well, I think I've heard that too, actually, but I, I haven't caught on how,

01:01:28.120 but that it's, that it's, uh, a real, uh, foreboding of bad times for, uh, for the Jewish people. And I

01:01:36.440 don't think that's, that's not right. And that's not fair. This is proof that the apartheid state is a

01:01:42.680 failure. This is proof of the success of the Israeli democracy in that the, uh, Arab list has,

01:01:52.120 I think they're in position for 12 seats that, and they are in a position to have a say in terms

01:01:59.960 of the composition of the government. Yeah. That's the worst word matters. If they're trying

01:02:04.200 to apartheid everybody, they're sure doing it wrong. The worst, this is the worst apartheid regime.

01:02:09.720 I mean, they, they flunked, they flunked the test with this election. Now, again, with people that

01:02:16.360 are concerned that this is bad, well, then I'll tell you what, it's up to Israelis to,

01:02:22.440 if, if you're worried about a Muslim population bomb in Israel, then there's, uh, there's one way to

01:02:27.160 counter it. And that is to go forth and multiply, which is what we were commanded to do. And I suppose

01:02:33.000 also, and, uh, you know, for Jews in the diaspora are going to have to evaluate if they can move to

01:02:39.160 Israel and how economically they can sustain themselves, uh, et cetera. Um, but I don't see

01:02:46.120 this, uh, as, and I'm not a, I'm not by any stretch hugely negative on Netanyahu. I'm not usually

01:02:53.640 negative on Benny Gantz either. I, I don't care a lot. This could have all been avoided if Lieberman's

01:03:01.400 demands, uh, that the Haredium, that the ultra-Orthodox be drafted, that they have to serve

01:03:06.680 in the, in the military. If that had been agreed to, which would have fractured Netanyahu's, um,

01:03:13.240 uh, coalition, but might have brought, would have brought other support, a lot of this wouldn't

01:03:17.160 have happened. So now Lieberman, you know, he wants that, he wants this, he wants transit on Shabbos.

01:03:23.160 Uh, Netanyahu, I think, could have avoided this by being more of a centrist and relying less on the

01:03:29.480 ultra-religious for his base of support. Uh, but, uh, lo and behold, um, the, you know, the,

01:03:39.480 the Arab vote was 60%. These, the majority of them are committed to life in Israel under

01:03:47.400 the current system. They are not voting to overthrow the democracy. I think a lot of people

01:03:54.280 in the Jewish community misunderstand, I think I saw a survey was that 71% of, of Arabs in Israel

01:04:01.640 like being Israeli and want to, want to stay that way. It's up to the Jews in Israel to ensure,

01:04:06.680 along with the, the Christian communities, to ensure that that environment is maintained

01:04:11.320 so that everybody who's in Israel, uh, and values democracy and values, uh, a society where gays

01:04:20.120 aren't thrown off of the tops of buildings, where people all aren't hauled off and executed for

01:04:26.360 being collaborators. Yeah. Uh, I think it's up to everybody that values that to grow that tent. And,

01:04:33.880 uh, and, uh, uh, uh, I, I don't see this as disastrous. I think it would be disastrous

01:04:40.360 if no government can last out of this, because another election in five months,

01:04:44.200 um, it's going to make the government itself and the country itself increasingly dysfunctional.

01:04:50.200 And without a voice, one voice, whether it's Netanyahu's or Benny Gantz or whoever on the world

01:04:55.160 stage, that is something concerns, uh, all Jews in North America, certainly that, uh, Israel sort

01:05:01.720 out its political issues has the, the era of the list of the party list outlived its usefulness.

01:05:08.280 Um, as an impartial observer, I think it's on its last legs. What Israelis themselves are going to

01:05:16.440 decide, I don't know, but they can't keep going with a system where you're trying to horse trade

01:05:22.360 regional representation and religious representation into a party, into a coalition government to cobble

01:05:29.240 something together just to maintain power. Cause it's, it's going to start eating at the confidence

01:05:33.800 Israelis have in their own, in their own society. And, uh, it's, uh, in that regard, it's a difficult

01:05:40.440 time. I'm sure it'll, it can be sorted out, but some people may have to come off their pedestals a

01:05:44.840 little bit. Now from the Israeli election back to the Canadian election for a second, um, we're about a

01:05:52.280 week out of the blackface scandal and it doesn't seem to be going away. What is your prediction for the

01:05:58.680 formation of the Canadian government right now? I'm sure things will change and, and, uh, we'll see some

01:06:05.080 shift in support as I'm sure other scandals will break. I'm not sure from which parties and when, but I'm

01:06:10.920 sure there's more. Um, what do you, what do you think? Uh, minority majority and who by whom formed by whom?

01:06:18.680 I don't see a majority government. I don't see a majority government as being likely, although I understand

01:06:25.160 there's been quite a shift in Ontario, which would bring a conservative majority. I don't see that

01:06:29.240 as being the most likely scenario. Jagmeet Singh, I think really shot himself in the foot by, uh,

01:06:36.280 saying that he would nonetheless prop up a liberal minority government between the SNC Lavalin, um,

01:06:43.800 and, uh, the, uh, black, the, the, you know, the, the ability, the, the circumstances outward,

01:06:50.920 Trudeau's, you know, you know, basic qualifications, his personality are now being called into question.

01:06:57.800 I think Jagmeet Singh shot himself in the foot by, by, I mean, worst negotiator on earth to give that

01:07:04.200 card away. Um, I, I don't see the green party going beyond three or four seats, but I think more

01:07:11.000 importantly, I don't see the liberals going beyond five seats in Western Canada. And what you mentioned

01:07:19.080 earlier about this ruining the liberal brand, that Laurentian gang, you know, they could all whoop it

01:07:24.440 up at the Chateau Laurier and, and, you know, their, their own little circle jerk parties, but they are

01:07:29.960 abandoning, um, abandoning the, the people that identify as liberals in Western Canada, but with

01:07:39.240 their behavior and with their, with their smarmy attitude, uh, there are people who traditionally

01:07:45.960 in the West have vacillated between liberal and conservative, depending on how, you know,

01:07:51.480 red Tory, you know, they are, et cetera. Uh, but if they go down to five seats in Western Canada,

01:07:58.680 in no way is that a legitimate government, even if they form a majority by somehow, you know,

01:08:04.200 doing well in, in the East, if anything, it is, it will fuel Western separation. And I don't say

01:08:10.840 that lightly, uh, but it's been increasingly apparent to me the last, the last year, year

01:08:16.200 and a half in particular, but certainly the last six months that this is something that should not

01:08:22.200 be dismissed by the Eastern elite. Uh, so I think it's possible that there will be a conservative

01:08:29.000 government. I think if any more blackface pictures come out or video, anything else like that, I think

01:08:34.680 is, there's no way if that comes out, there's no way whatever standing the liberals have in the polls

01:08:41.480 that day, they aren't going up from that day if there's more of this stuff. Uh, and I am certain

01:08:49.960 that there's other things that are embarrassing to the prime minister that are a reflection on

01:08:54.520 poor or immature judgment that are yet to be divulged, uh, that can come out in this, uh,

01:09:01.080 campaign. I think the most likely scenario is a minority conservative government.

01:09:06.760 I can't see how the, um, opposition parties, you know, their alternative would be to say,

01:09:14.440 yeah, you know, that trying to rig a criminal prosecution of a, of a business that is rioting.

01:09:20.360 Yeah. It's not really that big of a deal. Yeah. Cause I think that would really their burst their

01:09:25.160 balloon, uh, their credibility in a lot of places. If they propped up a Trudeau

01:09:31.320 minority government, uh, I, I, I don't see, um, again, uh, the, the, the other question

01:09:38.520 is heading into the French debates is how badly is Maxime Bernier going to take this blackface club

01:09:45.640 and beat on Justin Trudeau with it because that I'm not an expert, but it seems to me that that could

01:09:52.440 move. I'm sure there are people go back that go between the BQ, uh, for instance, and the liberals

01:09:58.600 that are, you know, Quebec centric voters. And it could be that Bernier is in a position where,

01:10:04.440 you know, I, you know, I may have done stupid things, but I never did that. He could say that

01:10:08.520 quite legitimately. Yeah. And that might affect the election because it's going to, um, influence

01:10:17.000 voters in Quebec to second guess the Trudeau dynasty. Yeah. I don't think that English media

01:10:24.120 has really looked at that and wondered how does this improve Bernier's fortunes,

01:10:29.960 the people's party fortunes in Quebec and it may not add seats, but if it moves votes,

01:10:35.800 the next thing you know, you could have conservatives or I suppose BQ members that slide through,

01:10:40.120 it takes away from the liberal ledger. Um, uh, right now I would see a conservative minority

01:10:47.640 is the most likely outcome. And especially if there's any more damage control days required

01:10:53.960 for Justin Trudeau. Um, it's to me, it's very uphill because all the opposition parties

01:11:00.760 hammer them on credibility. They hammer them on honesty. They hammer them on broken promises.

01:11:05.560 This isn't just the conservatives doing it. This is the message that's getting the voters is from

01:11:10.360 all the parties is the government is rotten, that it stinks. And we all know what you have

01:11:15.400 to do with the head of the fish. Right. Um, lastly, since you've been extremely generous with your time,

01:11:23.400 um, where do people find you, Marty? How do they support your work? How do they support your

01:11:28.280 secular work and your work at the J.ca? The J.ca is, uh, located online. Uh, concurrent with this

01:11:34.520 interview, we have published a guide in particular for Jewish voters, but there's a helpful information

01:11:39.800 for all voters about elections, uh, links to Elections Canada, uh, websites. You can find where

01:11:45.640 your polling place is advanced polling, uh, this year for the Jewish community. Uh, the, one of the days,

01:11:51.000 the advanced polls falls on Sukkot, which is a holy day and also falls on the election day itself,

01:11:57.160 falls on the eighth day of Sukkot, uh, Shemini Yatzeret. Uh, and so Jewish voters are religious

01:12:03.720 Jewish voters of which there's a sizable number, certainly Toronto, Montreal, less so in Winnipeg

01:12:08.840 and Vancouver and Calgary, they're going to have to vote in advance. I'm not a big fan of advanced

01:12:13.720 voting by and large. Uh, but we provided a story that demonstrates the links, the qualifications

01:12:18.520 to vote, uh, as, uh, a public service, so to speak, but those who are not Jewish, those links are,

01:12:23.800 you know, again, for polling places and the dates. Uh, so you can go to the J.ca and there's, uh, uh,

01:12:30.040 links on our website, uh, uh, tabs, uh, with regards to sponsorship, with regards to advertising.

01:12:35.640 Uh, for me personally, uh, the great Canadian talk show, uh, is my news blog, tgcts.com online.

01:12:43.960 Still banned by Facebook for reasons unknown, but the workaround is working so far, uh, so good.

01:12:50.440 I had, um, I was very pleased with the level of support, uh, that I got, uh, uh, and some,

01:12:57.320 a couple of whom did reference my appearances here on the gun show and I appreciate it. I'm hoping that

01:13:03.000 more people will see the value in having independent Manitoba coverage of the federal election

01:13:07.080 and of the candidates. Uh, and I'll carry on through this. Uh, and, uh, I don't know if,

01:13:13.560 I don't know how many more elections I've got in me, uh, in my guise as a, as a reporter and

01:13:18.760 commentator, but I'm proud of the work that I did in the Manitoba election. I can tell you that

01:13:22.440 Trudeau's story, uh, that, uh, about day one of damage control. Um, there were a lot of very

01:13:29.720 recognizable, influential, high level people, uh, from, uh, the world of diplomacy, from the world

01:13:36.040 of politics, the world of media that, um, that liked seeing a story from somebody on the ground

01:13:42.520 who isn't part of the Ottawa press corps, doesn't live in that bubble. I mentioned a few things that

01:13:47.400 I thought were, you know, he walked around mentioned actually discussing whether his father knew about

01:13:53.240 his costumed antics. Uh, nobody had the balls to ask him whether his mother knew about this or when.

01:13:59.000 Yeah. He did not mention his wife. And I would have thought that an apology about how you've

01:14:04.680 embarrassed yourself and your party. And I talked about it with my kids. You would have thought he

01:14:09.320 would have mentioned his wife and he didn't, which I thought was very significant. I'm just saying,

01:14:14.040 it seems like I'm the only commentator person in attendance that noticed that.

01:14:17.800 Yep. Um, but the response was probably my most widely circulated story, uh, maybe in, in,

01:14:27.560 by certain metrics of all time. Certainly I reached an audience that's, that was Canada wide

01:14:33.240 and worldwide. And, uh, people found value in, in the perspectives I brought of a Jewish guy for

01:14:38.920 the North end. And as I, as I said, you know, uh, the, the course of our lives brought to Justin

01:14:44.120 Trudeau and I together in the same place at the same time, but he had some explaining to do. And

01:14:48.920 I had a clean bill of health. So that's what the green was to that. Oh, that's great, Marty. Marty,

01:14:55.480 uh, I want to thank you for being extremely generous with your time and your, uh, your unique

01:15:01.880 on the ground perspective from Winnipeg. Hopefully we can catch up with you in a couple of weeks,

01:15:07.000 sometime after the election and, uh, and we'll discuss. Maybe we can get in before the election,

01:15:12.600 if something oddballed happens again, I hope the rebel media is going to be having some people come

01:15:18.120 through here, uh, during the course of the campaign. And I look forward to a meeting with whoever,

01:15:23.000 uh, whoever comes by to visit and, uh, and seeing, uh, seeing just what kind of hard

01:15:27.640 questions can be asked that politicians start to squirm when, uh, when they hear them and start

01:15:31.960 looking for an exit. Uh, I, I, I've seen some really good work, uh, on the rebel during this

01:15:38.600 campaign, some excellent work, uh, by yourself, by, by, and I don't want to leave anybody out.

01:15:43.560 Menzies has been doing great. He's always great. And is, uh, Kean is certainly in a groove

01:15:48.920 and it's important that, that these kinds of outlets, the ones that don't get media accreditation,

01:15:54.840 the ones that are treated like they aren't really, we know, we know what journalism is nowadays.

01:16:00.360 And for those that don't want to toe a party line, that don't want to toe, um, you know,

01:16:05.400 that don't come at everything swinging, you know, like Karl Yastrzemski from the left,

01:16:09.560 there's gotta be something for the rest, for the rest of the public. And that's the role that we feel in,

01:16:13.320 uh, the, the election coverage, uh, coming from rebel, from rebel TV has been, uh, literally,

01:16:18.920 it's a highlight every day to see what it, what is covered, what is brought up, what is unearthed.

01:16:23.240 And, uh, I do my part in a similar vein here out of Winnipeg. And, uh, I look forward to, to hearing

01:16:28.920 from your audience. If there, anybody has any story tips or any issues, by all means, get ahold of me.

01:16:33.720 Uh, for right now, I'm going to stay the course in political reporting and, and such things. And, uh,

01:16:40.120 as often as, as often as you'll have me on, I'll be here to, uh, to do what I can to enlighten

01:16:44.680 everybody about what goes on here in the, uh, in Manitobastan, as we used to call it under the NDP.

01:16:50.120 But as, as Alistair has said frequently, uh, blue skies, uh, are blue skies every day here in Manitoba.

01:16:56.840 And it's, uh, it's a much, much different place now than it was under the Salinger regime. And, uh,

01:17:02.520 we'll see what federal regime takes hold here in a few weeks time.

01:17:06.440 Thanks, Marty. Have a great day. And again,

01:17:08.600 thanks for your generosity with your time. Thank you, Sheila.

01:17:21.800 Here's what I think is going to happen in the remaining few weeks of this election campaign.

01:17:27.080 There are likely even more scandals about to be revealed about Justin Trudeau,

01:17:33.160 but that won't necessarily mean the end of Justin Trudeau.

01:17:36.840 That will just mean that the liberal approved media is going to come at the conservative party

01:17:43.000 even harder to deflect away from their boy prince's self-inflicted problems.

01:17:47.400 You see, for the media, it's just self-preservation. People just aren't buying the garbage they're

01:17:54.840 selling anymore. So they have to get that bailout from Justin Trudeau. So they have to get Justin

01:18:01.000 Trudeau reelected at all costs, even if it costs Canadian unity.

01:18:06.600 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back

01:18:10.760 here in the same time, in the same place next week. And remember, don't let the government tell you that

01:18:16.440 you've had too much to think.

01:18:28.760 We'll see you next week.

01:18:41.080 We'll see you next week.

Rebel News Podcast - September 26, 2019

Manitoba campaign insanity (GUEST： Marty Gold)

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