Manitoba election called — and social media censorship begins (Guest： Marty Gold)
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A looming election, Facebook censorship, and an attempted deplatforming of a Jewish speaker... all in Manitoba. My guest tonight is Marty Gold, editor-in-chief of the J.C.A. blog, to break it all down.
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A looming election, Facebook censorship, and an attempted deplatforming of a Jewish speaker,
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all in Manitoba. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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The writ has just dropped in Manitoba. The 42nd general election in Manitoba has been called by
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Conservative Premier Brian Pallister. Manitobans go to the polls on September 10th, 2019, a full year and
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one month sooner than scheduled, with the Conservative government saying they have already fulfilled
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their promises from the last election, and now they're seeking a new mandate from the people.
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What does this election in Manitoba mean for the rest of the country as we approach a federal election?
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Then, what happens when you're a small, independent journalist doing the work the mainstream media
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just completely refuses to do? And it's happening during the Manitoba election cycle.
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And then Facebook arbitrarily censors you and calls you fake news. What sort of recourse do you even
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have? Then, in Winnipeg, a controversial pro-Israel speaker was very nearly deplatformed.
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And the near deplatforming came from a surprising place. Amazingly, one reporter in Manitoba
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was on the beat for all of these stories. My guest tonight is independent Winnipeg journalist
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Marty Gold to break down the Manitoba election and so much more in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.
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Joining me now from his home in Winnipeg is Marty Gold. Marty Gold is the editor-in-chief of the J.ca.
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Hey, Marty. Thanks for coming on the show. We've got a ton of things to talk about.
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All sorts of different issues, issues that are important to our Rebel viewers and I'm sure to J.ca readers.
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But first, big news out of Winnipeg. Big news out of Manitoba. Election's been called.
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I think this is important for Canadians as a whole because Manitoba was the first, I guess, swing back
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to conservatism. It started the pendulum coming back the other way. And so I'm a conservative.
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I'd love to find out that Manitoba stays conservative. Why don't you give us a little bit
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of analysis on what some of the issues are in Manitoba in this next election?
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Sure. Well, I'll start off with the campaign kickoff. It was a waiting game. Premier Palastro's
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going to the polls more than a year early. It's somewhat been controversial. His reasoning
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was the next year's Manitoba's 150th anniversary. He did not want an election to seem like it
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was a government in power. He was catapulting itself by using the pedestal of anniversary
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celebrations. I don't remember what the phrase is for 150, but it's something I'm sure I can't
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And so he went early. And he announced well in advance. He went to the lieutenant governor
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and the writ was dropped yesterday afternoon. I just came, as we take this, I came back from
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the Liberal launch, which is the Liberal Party led by Dougal Lamont. I've written a couple
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of articles about him lately in my secular life where I'm still covering politics. In fact,
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both elections here in Manitoba. And their major announcement today for their campaign was
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like all green all the time. They want to put grass, natural grass on the Red River floodways
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that you can then seed the grass. They want every Manitoban to plant five trees. I just came
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from this. Like, it's not like I'm not remembering properly. It was a very unusual because what
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they're doing is they're trying to outgreen the Green Party without having talked analytically
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with anybody there with Lamont or any of the candidates that I know. Some of these people
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I've known for a number of years, campaign workers, etc. But it seems to me that they've
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decided the room for growth is not trying to bash the NDP necessarily or take on the NDP.
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There's only a certain number of conservative voters they think that can move. And so they've
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decided they're going after the Green Party. The Green Party, although it would be very uphill for
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the Green Party to elect members here, their leader, James Badom, is running against NDP leader
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Wab Kanu in Fort Rouge. It's the fourth different riding Badom has tried to get, has tried to get
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elected. And they, of course, are running an entirely green campaign. But they haven't put out an actual
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platform, costed things out. Do with Lamont, the Liberals, thinking this is an opportunity,
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put out a platform today that included, of course, carbon tax, Manitoba being carbon neutral
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by 2030, the usual federal line. Not any mention of the presser about, you know, business, small
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business, taxation, vague passing reference to education. But they think that the only room
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for them to grow votes and steal some seats beyond the three they have and one incumbent up north has
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left, I don't know if they're going to hold that seat, is to go after the green vote, which is now
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somewhere probably, I think, probably around 12 percent, maybe. I haven't seen a recent poll,
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but I guess about 10, 12 percent. Certainly in some ridings, Wolseley, they came very close last
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time against the NDP. The incumbents quit, so they might take a seat, a green seat here in the
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legislature. The Liberals are aiming in that direction, aligning themselves with the federal
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government. I'm not sure that that is the smartest move, but this is right now how they're
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steering the ship. The NDP, it's interesting in that the front runners, the opposition,
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Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition, the New Democratic Party, led by Wab Kanu. Kanu is, you know, he's
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very realistic that he's got a tough time. There's so much negative said about him, about
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his past, about the difference between what he wrote in his book and what he made in other
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statements. Some people think that it's kind of mean-spirited, that you don't believe somebody
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can change, but ultimately it was just a year or two ago that his former spouse asserted
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domestic violence that he outright denies. Nobody's ever talked to the other couple that
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was there that night about the mood and such. He can't get past it. Immediately at the start
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of the campaign, it's all about him, his wife, who's a doctor, and they're two small kids.
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He's got, I believe, older kids from his previous marriage. So they're trying to recast the misogynist
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rapper Wab Kanu as an erudite former academic family man, and ultimately there are some people
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that aren't going to buy it. The Liberals know that. I don't know really where they think
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they have growth. The NDP is looking mostly to recapture seats that they lost in the last
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election. Thompson, one of the writings in Brandon, I apologize. I don't remember Brandon
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East or Brandon West. They think they can scoop back. There's also been some redistribution.
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The Tories have had to move candidates around like fish out of water. One example, Shannon
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Martin, who represented Morris, which is 40 miles to the south of Winnipeg, and a very,
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I think, Mennonites and maybe Ukrainian kind of old white, old stock white, rural riding in
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Manitoba that probably would fit in in Alberta, frankly. And he's out running in a new riding.
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They've carved out this kind of pie shit called Kildonan that's half traditional Jewish, Ukrainian,
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Polish, I think Filipino garden city, one of the first suburbs in Winnipeg and sort of North
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Endish. And then there's all this rural area that's not farmland. It's just like old country
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roads with big, you know, lots. And there's so much. It's all discordant in terms of what's
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important in the riding. And then you've taken a guy from the other side of the world, as far as
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what it makes concern, and dropping him in. And Shannon's a great guy and a good MLA, but very
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tough for the Tories to hold that that number count, I think. Still, though, no sense that the
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NDP, that the Tories could possibly lose enough seats for the NDP to gain traction. The question
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is, will the Liberals win more than four seats, get party status and added funding? And will the Green
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Party have a breakthrough early in the campaign? I've already begun my coverage, and I've continued
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to stay focused on, you know, Lamont has said some interesting things about the conservative
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government. And he's caught on to problems that I've identified about the Winnipeg Regional Health
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Authority, all the dirty needles around Winnipeg. Lamont was very complimentary to my story, actually,
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when I interviewed him, saying that proper data collection is important for policy, that
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it doesn't surprise him that WHA was out by 1,200%. And how many used needles will be found
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on the streets of Winnipeg? 1,200%. They estimated last year, they told me in an email last October
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between 5,000 and 10,000. The Bear Clan alone, in public service, says they're going to be picking
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up 140,000, 180,000 this year, whatever. So I've made some news with that. In fact, last
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week, that probably is something, finding a city councillor, an NDP councillor, who agreed
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to do good Lamont. The city is suffering because of poor data collection and poor free needle
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practices, harm reduction practices. And so I had a North End councillor, Ross Eadie, chiming
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in, along with Dougal Lamont, St. Boniface. I just published a story on my secular location.
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I guess we're going to talk about that St. Boniface had a 92.9% increase in property crimes
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in five years, from 2014 to 2018. And it didn't impact the civic election in 2018. That number
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wasn't known. But it will impact, I think, it's very possible that people are going to
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look around, ask what that number was the last five years, the previous five years, and
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make it a provincial election issue at the doorstep. And probably federal, too. One of
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the federal candidates chimed in on my story today. So I've been digging away at that. And
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there aren't a lot of economic issues. There's a lot of disparity issues and education issues. But
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ultimately, health care, meth addiction, the disposition of a building that's in a contract
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dispute and sitting mothballed, and it's got like 10 detox beds at 800 Adele. Liberals agreeing
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that this should be looked at. And I'll have a story coming out that there's an elected MLA
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also agrees with that. So these things are, are, are, are things that are motivating people
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to ask questions. Not enough, I don't think any of the swing of government, but might make
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the conservative government uncomfortable about some of their policy positions. They
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may have to loosen up, change their thinking a little bit on a few things. Premier Pollister
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not famous for that, but it could be that he's going to hear the music to some extent.
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Yeah, you're, you're really digging into these issues that are affecting, like, especially
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meth and opioid addiction. They're affecting city centers all across the country. Um, and
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especially with regard to supervised injection sites and which we don't have here yet. And
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which has been a battle both provincially and at the civic level, the mayor wants it and
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the premier is very entirely resistant. Well, and you know, you're reporting is digging up
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some of the problems around supervised injection sites and you don't even have them yet. For
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example, needle collection, you don't even have the supervised injection site. People are pushing
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for supervised injection sites and yet you're still exhibiting the problems that are caused by
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supervised injection sites. Really you have a de facto supervised injection site where there's
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people gathered. And that's what you said is that, is that the, the harm reduction is failing in the
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needle, in the collection site. And I got to have a story coming up in about a week or two. I still
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have material from the regional health authority about their data, their, their processes, where they
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didn't even meet their own standards, their own criteria to provide, to provide what's called
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medically proper surveillance, uh, on this subject. But, uh, you know, um, whereas my coverage has
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gotten attention, I've been on this for a year, starting with Manitoba post and now with, uh, uh,
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an old blog that I revived, uh, the acronym for the great Canadian talk show, tgcts.blogspot.com.
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Um, and I've been on this case like a beat almost for, for like almost a year now. And people are,
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are realizing that there's, you can't just la-di-da away. And it, uh, it, it, it seemed last
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week that story, um, uh, about, uh, with the city council now chiming in with the liberal leader
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that, uh, I pushed some of the wrong buttons, so to speak. And, uh, I'm, I'm in the middle of a bit
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of a battle now because of my reporting, which I'm not happy to be put in that position. It's,
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it's really unfair, but sometimes that's what happens to us independent types that are on the
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libertarian side of the equation. Yeah. That's the next thing that I wanted to talk to you about.
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Boy, it's so funny how, uh, just talking with you, we can go from A to B and C and all these issues
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seem not really remotely connected, but they end up being connected that way because of your reporting,
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you and I suspect on the issue of, uh, needles and crime, you've been censored by Facebook and your
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stories are really making a difference. They're garnering, uh, uh, political attention. And yet,
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because you're being censored by Facebook, that information can't get out to the voters
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that need it and the voters that need to press those same politicians at the door for solutions.
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This is a very weird circumstance. The story that I referenced with, again,
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Councillor Edie from Winnipeg, he's a blind guy that I've known for many years. Uh, we're on very
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opposite sides of the fence politically. We're both North end boys and we have very good frank
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discussions about our neighborhood and our traditional neighborhood and what's goes on in
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the city. Uh, the story last week was North end counselor echoes liberal leaders' skepticism
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about WRHA harm reduction free needle program. I definitely believe street connections has not
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handled their program very well over the years on the collection side. And then I went into some
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numbers and, and, uh, spoke with, uh, uh, uh, uh, revived some comments from, uh, from, uh, uh,
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due with Lamont, the liberal leader, an hour, as I'm sitting at my desk at this desk,
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an hour after I put the story up, I take, I'm on the great Canadian talk show Facebook group page
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and I take a look and it has a flag on the pin post, which is there's two elections. So we're
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coming back, which is, you know, the main fundraising driver post I've, I put out explaining
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the background of our citizen journalism, the kinds of stories that we've broken,
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why it's important that there's fewer reporters employed in Winnipeg than ever. And so it makes sense
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to have somebody independent and see if the public I've looked for a hundred donors at $50 each,
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which I thought was easier than 50 at a hundred, but basically $5,000 to try to raise, pay the rent,
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put gas in the car, you know, uh, uh, pay the internet bill and go meet politicians face to
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face, go to events, talk with the people on the street, ask the candidates tough questions. This
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is what I did on radio. And this is what I did on TV too, within studio interviews, the picture
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with the story with, uh, Ross Edy is from city circus TV. And this flag says this violates our
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community standards, please. You know, you can delete it. And I'm like, maybe there's some way
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that a fundraising, but I know people do it all the time. So that doesn't really make any sense.
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And as I scroll down, I see every post only you can see it. Every post was flagged. Now my posts,
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I posted on Facebook. I joined Facebook 2008. That was my main location as a website was a blog spot
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location. I kept things simple. So anything from 2008 to 2011, when I then start a new website for
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my TV show, none of those posts are objectionable. This can only be the eight or so stories that I
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filed since the end of June. Well, they're all about drug policy. They're about political stuff.
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They're about city hall in the Manitoba province. There's nothing obscene. There's no bad language.
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There's no calling people names. There's no getting into debates about
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the BC human rights commission. Like I thought this is all local issues. None of which are
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genuinely controversial in the broader context of people's touchy feelies. Yeah. And if you think
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this is wrong, click here and a click, why do you think it's wrong? I am filing news stories. I've been
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doing this for years, but then you read that they won't actually respond to you. This helps with their
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algorithms. This helps with their processes. So I'm shut out from my main identity site. You know,
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this is my identity. And when you type it in, as I had somebody do today to Facebook with our messenger
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window or whatever, it comes up that it is not a permitted URL. I've been banned. Now the federal
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liberals have made a big deal about fake news, right? And they want fake news banned from Facebook and
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other online platforms. But what nobody's thought of what happens when real news gets banned and
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that's what's happened. And so my, uh, where I am, my office is, uh, and has been for many years in
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St. Boniface. One of the reasons I ended up doing a lot of stories about St. Boniface and especially
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because the crime rate needles here and the, the liberal leaders represents here, et cetera.
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And, uh, I go to the MP's office. Now the MP here is Danny Vandal. He's a foreign professional
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boxer. I've known Danny before he got into politics in the kind of rivalry that, you know,
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wrestlers and boxers will have. We were in a documentary together about the Canadian champion,
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Al Sparks, a few years ago. Uh, Danny's the kind of guy that even from when he was at city hall,
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uh, I, I do not have to agree with people politically on everything, uh, and can still
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have a good relationship with them and be friends with them. And this is the first time I've ever to
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go to Danny Vandal's office. And, and I've gone with him with community organizations with regards
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to victims rights and some other initiatives, uh, and, and try to move things along with the feds.
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But this is the first time I've gone for me and said, my business and your writing,
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I need your help. He wasn't there. His, one of his assistants was, it's very familiar with me and my
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work and, and knew about the stories I'm doing. They said, well, we've never heard about this.
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And yeah, Facebook is kind of tough to talk to and okay, we're gonna, we'll see what we can do.
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Well, I told them that I'm going to talk with all the Winnipeg liberal members of parliament. I know,
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I met all of them. I'm, I know four of them particularly well, Kevin Lamroom. I've known
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for 30 years. I'm coming Robert Falcon, who led, I know reads my stuff. He's been in my stuff. He's
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been on my TV show. He's getting a call or a visit. Marianne Mahaychuk. I've known since she was in
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Gary Dewar's government, uh, and, uh, was, did a number of stories about her when she was in the mining
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industry. She's going to get a call. But today I called, I tried to figure out how do I get to
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Jim Carr? He's very busy. I can't just walk up to him and say, Hey Jim, I've been banned from
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Facebook. He's not gonna, but I knew somebody that's one of his important key people from back
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in the red river college days with kick FM. And I contacted this guy. He called me immediately.
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He knows I'm not calling for nothing. And I explained to him the problem that the liberals can only focus
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on fake news being banned. They have to focus on real news being allowed, being given the ability
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to be in the public square that the Facebook can't operate on the premise that there's no,
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no appeal, no warning, no nothing. And that this is injurious while I'm covering two elections,
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covering liberal candidates and liberal leaders as well as others. And, uh, I got a commitment from
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that individual that he is going to look into this. I mean, they're perplexed because nobody's ever
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thought of this and I'm, I'm very concerned. I'm wondering who else in the country that does
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what I do. I know there's not a lot of us, but that file independent journalism, uh, stories
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somewhere between the realm of, you know, their mom's basement and, uh, you know, you know, like,
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uh, bloggers in Minneapolis, somewhere in the middle there, there's people that maybe,
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you know, get the rent paid. Maybe they have a better business going. Maybe that maybe they,
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they may, I don't imagine maybe somebody, the rebels been banned from Facebook on the same premise.
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I don't know, but I'm very disturbed about it. You could see that I'm disturbed. I've gone through
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this once where I was censored in Manitoba and where it was backhanded and where it was completely
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unfair with no process. And, uh, and, and I'm not going to put up with it. I'm absolutely not going
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to put up with it. So the other liberal MLAs will be hearing from me. I'll be a little less worked up
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and I'm encouraged that the office of Dan Mandel and the office of the honorable Jim Carr
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are recognized immediately. The importance of the kind of journalism that I do,
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the kind of reporting and investigations I do. And I'm hoping this is resolved.
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In the meantime, I've had to resort to a backup blog that Facebook hasn't banned yet to get my
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stories out. Otherwise I'm still posting on my original blog spot location and I'm going to keep
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it coming. I'm not giving up. No, of course not. And you know, it is funny that the liberals didn't
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think of the flip side of their, uh, promises to censor fake news. And that is that everybody
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can get caught up in being accused of being fake news because it seems to me that fake news these
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days is just news you disagree with. And in your instance, the people who are probably flagging your
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work are likely far left wing activists or the harm reduction crowd who claim to care about the poor
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and poor neighborhoods. This petrifies them because the harm reduction, um, community, they've never,
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they, they say the most outlandish things, which again, I'll be getting into in the next month.
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This includes people that want the federal government to pay to supply clean drugs to everybody,
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including heroin. Now listen, when they start including math and say, they say that, that,
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that all drugs are, it's moral relativism. The biggest, the bane of, of, of our modern times
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is moral relativism because we know cultures aren't equal. We know people's conduct when they're dropped
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fish out of water is not going to be equal. We know they're not equal outcomes in sports. Uh,
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and this is another example where the harm reduction crowd, they don't want to be accountable for
00:24:06.780
handing out a 2 million needles in Winnipeg and you know, 20,000. Well, that's only 1%.
00:24:12.940
That's 21,000 damn needles on the streets. Yeah. What kind of morons are these that are
00:24:18.460
dictating health policy and getting away with it? And I'm the first person I think that's challenged
00:24:23.500
this locally. I know I am. I'm the only person who's dived into the numbers. And so you, when we talk
00:24:29.100
about this privately and there are others that agree that, you know, I get that story up where a city
00:24:33.500
counselor whose ward is affected is saying, there's something wrong here. And an hour later,
00:24:38.220
my story's banned from Facebook. What garbage. And isn't that convenient? Now we've talked about
00:24:45.660
your secular work. Let's talk about, um, the other work that you do at the j.ca. Um, you've got some
00:24:54.460
news breaking over there. Um, I I'm proud to say that I was, um, one of the first people who sort of
00:25:01.260
caught you on your upswing at the j.ca. Um, yeah. And, uh, you've got some news happening over
00:25:08.140
there. Um, I, as, as we've just illustrated, I spent many years, uh, uh, doing, you know,
00:25:16.220
what we call secular reporting. I wasn't very involved in the Jewish community. I may be on
00:25:19.660
radio or TV. I interviewed my sister on TV once she runs a Jewish funeral chapel and I did a half hour
00:25:25.100
with her on that. I was very proud to, but generally I didn't do a lot of stories about Judaism,
00:25:29.340
stories about Israel. If something came up, especially when I was on radio,
00:25:32.300
something on a campus, Israel apartheid week, of course I'd get whoever on from the,
00:25:36.620
the campus from Hillel or whatever, but I've not been a very, just like my rest so-called
00:25:41.340
wrestling career. I've not been, you know, emphasized my Jewish background. Uh, uh,
00:25:47.660
I just want to point out the macho man shirts. I did a couple of shows with the macho man's brother,
00:25:51.980
Leaping Lanny Poffo. And I do have a surprise coming out for Jewish New Year for Rosh Hashanah.
00:25:56.940
The first ever interview with Lanny Poffo about being raised, uh, in a half Jewish family.
00:26:01.820
Yeah. They had him and Randy had Jewish grandparents. Nobody had ever talked to him
00:26:05.660
about the Jewish influence in their lives. So I just wanted to mention that anyways,
00:26:09.900
that's where I managed to, again, you know, combine hanging around wrestling,
00:26:13.180
being secular and with something that was unique. And I hope it's going to attract a lot of positive
00:26:18.060
vibes from people. Uh, but about six months ago, I, and of course, again, just secular work,
00:26:23.900
discovered the infiltration, the attempted infiltration of far left, radical Marxist
00:26:28.380
activists, uh, into the Winnipeg community by planting speakers. And, and what's if not now?
00:26:34.780
Well, I had to tell them what if not now was, and they're even more vile now than they were five or
00:26:38.700
six months ago. And so I've gotten deeper and deeper into this with my publisher, Ron East.
00:26:43.020
Ronnie's father trained me and, and Ron, uh, uh, uh, in media, in journalism and in matters relating
00:26:50.620
to Israel and international affairs and counter-terrorism and I, and all that stuff. And so now
00:26:55.500
all these years later, I've been called back in a service for my own community because anti-Semitism
00:27:00.860
is running, uh, at high rates all over the country. Uh, uh, Toronto, there's been like three incidents
00:27:09.820
lately of children being assaulted. A woman was accosted by, uh, uh, a pro-Palestinian really,
00:27:17.660
uh, really aggressive, uh, BDS guy, uh, just yesterday. Um, Toronto's taking over its own
00:27:24.220
security. There's all these things going on and we're trying to figure out in Winnipeg where there's
00:27:27.660
no security service. There's no awareness of this. There's no counter. There's been four or five straight
00:27:33.500
information pickets, protest marches, anti-Zionist, anti-Israel, pro-BDS with no response from the
00:27:40.860
Jewish Federation at all, nothing at all. Uh, in the course of this and trying to create awareness
00:27:48.700
in our community of what the dangers are and in the general community too, where the threats are
00:27:51.980
coming from, we brought in Lauren Isaacs, who's the director, uh, Hey Root Canada out of Toronto.
00:27:58.140
And, uh, Lauren, uh, is a 23 year old girl who is, uh, became famous in April, internet famous for
00:28:05.500
posing on the Temple Mount with her Israeli flag, looking a root flag. Uh, Lauren came in,
00:28:11.420
she is unbelievable. If there's a guest that I can recommend, uh, you or one of the other hosts,
00:28:17.340
the rebel have on sometime, she knows her stuff. And so we brought her in for a seminar in River Heights,
00:28:25.340
a Jewish neighborhood in Winnipeg called the state of Jewish hate. Uh, and the, the focus was on how
00:28:29.980
the radical, the progressive left, uh, were entirely radical progressive as a misnomer, uh,
00:28:35.500
that progressive Jewish activists are fueling antisemitism. We see evidence of it all the time. Um,
00:28:45.500
even in scheduling the event, my publisher Ron East gets a phone call one morning from somebody from
00:28:53.660
the community center who says, uh, yeah, your event, I need more information. Well,
00:28:58.380
it's a meeting about Jewish med, you know, Jewish community matters. Yeah. But what's it about?
00:29:02.780
Well, it's about antisemitism. Oh yeah. Okay. Uh, we'll have to refund you your, your deposit and
00:29:07.500
we'll have to cancel it. And Ron says, well, what do you mean you got complaints? And she goes,
00:29:11.900
well, yeah, we got complaints and, and blah, blah. I says, well, I need, I get to see the complaints.
00:29:17.020
I need this in writing. We're not canceled until now. Of course he phones me. I get a hold of the
00:29:22.860
city councilor, John Orlico, who's in terms of where my residence is. That's my counselor and
00:29:28.540
John Gerard, former liberal leader that represents the writing. Uh, Ron goes on Facebook, a number of
00:29:35.820
people phone and email this community center. She phones him back two hours later as we, we had a video
00:29:42.780
of this on the j.ca website and says, listen, you aren't canceled. It's just under review. Tell
00:29:47.340
people to stop calling. He said, so we're not, not canceled. We're under review. I'm not going
00:29:51.340
to tell people to stop calling at this point. It becomes famous on the internet and now Nazis and
00:29:57.420
neo-Nazis and BDS nudniks and haters start diving in on this. Uh, in the meantime, Ron never got a call
00:30:07.660
from anybody about the disposition of this due diligence. You got one more message. It's a dude,
00:30:12.540
the club's doing its due diligence. Now, listen, there's an event at a community center in
00:30:16.700
goddamn Winnipeg. Okay. In the summertime, you know, what's the due diligence for any other
00:30:21.020
event that doesn't involve Jews discussing anti-Semitic threats in a Jewish neighborhood.
00:30:25.500
Let's say Sheila was in Winnipeg and, uh, and, and therefore had, it was going to have a wedding
00:30:30.300
social. Do you have those in Alberta socials? Sure. We just sit on a tailgate and get drunk,
00:30:36.060
but whatever. So what's the due diligence for wedding social? Are you having salami or bologna?
00:30:42.300
Are the pickles going to be in spears or, or, or, or in, in, in, in chips? You know,
00:30:47.740
are you going to have one hot mustard too, or just regular mustard? What due diligence?
00:30:52.300
We're bringing in a speaker. She's a national figure. She's a leader of Jewish youth.
00:30:57.260
And we're talking about things that worry us. We showed up building, having alternate plans with a
00:31:03.340
powered speaker system to do it outdoors. We go there, the door is open. It's all set up. Nobody
00:31:09.260
told us we were in, we were in. So the event was had, was set up, not set up for, um, you know,
00:31:16.860
huge attendance. Cause there was another event. I can't say competing. It was a pre-scheduled event,
00:31:20.780
a memorial for the bombing in Argentina of the community center there that night. This is when
00:31:25.100
Lauren could come in. So 200 people, whatever, 250 Jewish people go to the community, the Jewish
00:31:29.420
community center, 30 come to ours and about 15 more came after the other event. But we set it up
00:31:34.620
with our partners, the Winnipeg Jewish business council for a Facebook live stream. It had 1800 views.
00:31:41.820
This was the point was to get the message out. And you know, it's a different game nowadays.
00:31:46.860
Uh, it was successful. Uh, but some things are going on in the background.
00:31:52.540
Uh, after the event, a couple of articles were written in the Jewish posted news. That is the,
00:31:58.780
what Ron calls the schedule newspaper. There is a column and an article. Now, neither story
00:32:05.020
mentioned the Winnipeg Jewish business council is a sponsor. They both implied that the only audience
00:32:10.860
was the 30 people in attendance when it started, as opposed to the 1800 that watched. And so the
00:32:16.300
president of the Jewish business council, Matt Ostroff, he wrote a very polite email to Bernie
00:32:21.020
Bellen, the, uh, publisher and, uh, owner or part owner of the, uh, of the Jewish posted news
00:32:26.780
saying, look, you left us out. There's details you got wrong. Uh, Lauren's speech addressed these
00:32:33.900
important points, including the dangers of BDS and Bernie's a lefty. So he's got BDS friends,
00:32:38.700
right? The response, the official response from the Jewish posted news was your letters too long
00:32:43.740
and you aren't a subscriber by a subscriber and I'll consider publishing it. Now I've been around
00:32:48.380
journalism for a long time, but I've never heard where printing a correction depended on whether
00:32:52.700
somebody paid you. Holy, I know now it got better. That was, uh, you know, with regards,
00:33:03.500
I don't remember specifically, I think Matt sort of referenced both Myron love story and Bernie's
00:33:07.580
column in terms of, and neither of them mentioned the Winnipeg Jewish business council that, uh,
00:33:14.060
uh, is their name was right on the event, right? Get your tickets in advance thing. I mean,
00:33:18.860
you couldn't have missed them if you're paying attention and I understand why they would be
00:33:22.860
displeased. Here they are brain. They do events from time to time. And here they are helping us
00:33:27.100
present on a, on a crucial topic where there are teenage girls who spoke at, in the Q and a talking
00:33:34.940
about being intimidated in schools. God knows what schools are doing about this in Winnipeg,
00:33:39.500
Manitoba anyways, or in Canada about being intimidated by kids that are, have this very
00:33:45.180
left leaning or pro Palestinian or whatever perspective. And they're aggressive about it.
00:33:52.300
Now our security chief, a former idea veteran, Richard Weiss, he sends his own email specifically
00:33:57.580
about Myron love story to Bernie Bellin. It left out the co-sponsor. This wasn't accurate. That wasn't
00:34:03.900
accurate. It was about more so based on, on not just Lex Rothberg. And if not now, that's where this
00:34:09.340
all started. But this was about all these other things that have gone on, including the attempt
00:34:13.980
by Jew, by, uh, uh, uh, independent Jewish voices, uh, the Jewish market, the mostly Jewish, uh, far left
00:34:21.020
Marxists that pretend to be able to speak for the Jewish community with, uh, no more than two and a half
00:34:25.180
percent or 400 people that are on their side of things. Uh, they wanted, they opposed the Canadian
00:34:31.100
government adopting the, uh, uh, uh, definitions for antisemitism, the IHRA definitions, because this
00:34:40.700
precludes BDS next. First of all, it precludes BDS because it's an attack on the Jewish state. No
00:34:45.180
different than Nazi Germany prohibiting trade with Jewish businesses. Uh, so this like cuts into their
00:34:52.380
game really bad because now they got to zip their lip about a lot of stuff. Yeah. Right.
00:34:56.620
Um, anyways, Richard writes his letter. He says, you know, you got, some things are wrong. It should
00:35:07.740
be corrected. And the first response he gets is, oh, so you read something in the shuttle paper,
00:35:13.420
go shove it. Now, Richard, this from Bernie Bell. And so Richard, and again, I did a video interview
00:35:19.260
with him. That's now on our, our site. And I, and Richard said, kid, are you sure it's your answer?
00:35:24.940
Cause he's at, you know, you're asking for corrections to articles in a newspaper and you're
00:35:29.740
telling a guy who was there, who was an IDF veteran who, who, and we needed security, added
00:35:35.180
security precautions because of, of threats from neo-Nazis beak in their gums, uh, about Lauren
00:35:42.700
Isaacs and, and, and, and, and not just neo-Nazi. Some of this came again from the pro-Palestinian side,
00:35:47.740
cause she's rather unpopular with certain Islamist extremists. So we have all have to arrange our own
00:35:53.740
security and position at the room and everything, which we're glad to do and competent at doing.
00:35:58.860
But you think you'd, IDF veteran says, Hey, I'd like a correction. This was,
00:36:02.140
this topic of anti-Semitism was addressed in a certain manner and very important. Don't leave
00:36:06.140
out details and don't get the details wrong. He says, are you sure? Shove it. You sure?
00:36:10.940
And Bernie Bell's response was, can I say it? Can I say it? Oh yeah.
00:36:15.420
Yeah. You and all your idiot friends. So this is how the Jewish post publisher addressed the pro
00:36:22.860
Israel community in Winnipeg. What has come out till basically now is what was going on behind
00:36:31.580
the scenes as we were trying to get the event run. Uh, you see, part of the problem is the
00:36:37.020
articles that were written in the Jewish posts and news, uh, and the, the column by Bernie Bell,
00:36:41.020
and where he said that he tried to undermine that there is any attempt to cancel the event,
00:36:45.340
that it was done as a publicity stunt. Cause he went and mentioned all of a sudden there's
00:36:48.140
publicity worldwide on United with Israel. And because of this, uh, claim that it was canceled.
00:36:53.820
And he said, well, there's no proof it was canceled. Can we say anybody say nobody really
00:36:57.100
knows, but the whole way he approaches, he's trying to undermine runs on us. Yeah. Well,
00:37:00.780
that's ridiculous. Uh, uh, and his basis of his story was never talking to run,
00:37:07.260
never talking to me. And Ron talked with my own love at the event and told him the story. So the
00:37:10.940
Jewish posts and entity knew he said, well, I talked to the director from river Heights and she
00:37:15.260
said that, you know, you were never told it was canceled. She never told you it was canceled. And
00:37:19.900
runs never talked with her. She's never phoned him. She's never called me to this day. She's never
00:37:25.580
spoken with us. She's never told us what happened with the due diligence. She's never revealed the
00:37:30.220
complaint. She's never, never called him, but she's saying what Ron was or wasn't told. And Bernie,
00:37:37.340
not realizing she's not there. It's, there's an administrator at the site. That was the one
00:37:41.820
that made the phone calls. He doesn't realize he's made another bad journalistic error and he's
00:37:46.380
using it to try to say, well, we don't really know it was canceled. The publicity stunt screw
00:37:50.300
off. Do you want a publicity stunt? Well, we'll show you guys publicity stunts. That wasn't one.
00:37:55.340
That was a genuine threat from some anti-Semite trying to stop the Jewish community in Winnipeg
00:37:59.580
from talking about the rise of anti-Semitism in our own community.
00:38:03.580
Anyways, there was a few problems with what Bernie wrote, but really there was problems with what led
00:38:09.660
up to what he wrote and what he said to people. Before the event, he nudged me a bit. He had a few
00:38:15.100
questions. Uh, that's normal part for the course. Then he said, Oh, uh, your event wasn't really,
00:38:20.460
okay. You know, why did you write that it was canceled when it wasn't? Well, I hadn't written an
00:38:23.660
article is somebody else's article, go complain to them, leave me out of it. By the time he was done,
00:38:28.860
he had at 11 o'clock at night, Israeli time tried to, as I understand, tried to contact the major,
00:38:34.860
major pro-Israel organization that had covered, written a story about this attempt to silence
00:38:39.260
Lauren Isaacs and the J.ca. At 11 at night to tell them all your stories is not accurate. And as I am
00:38:45.660
told, as I am told 11 o'clock at night, tried to get them in Israel to get Lauren Isaacs to call him
00:38:52.140
going behind my back as the media coordinator for the event to talk with our speaker
00:38:57.740
then without our knowledge the night before the event. Okay. That's, you know, pretty unusual. Then,
00:39:05.420
you know, in the events before it started, Myron came up to me, said, I have a few questions.
00:39:09.420
Bernie talked to the community center general manager and she says that the event was never
00:39:12.540
canceled. I got to stop right there, run, runs his down, tells him the story. So you can see there's
00:39:16.860
this mischief, this misinformation going on. Regardless, the event was successful. The next
00:39:23.660
day we had arranged for Lauren Isaacs, myself and Ron East in the Jewish community center,
00:39:28.620
in the Rady center. There's a cafe, Schmoozer's Cafe, delicious food. I've known the person who
00:39:34.780
operates it, the owner, since I drove cab for her dad. I've known her since she was a child. It's great
00:39:39.980
there. Nice open area. And we're sitting there, Lauren, Ron, me on one side of the table, on the
00:39:46.140
other side, two officials from Jewish Federation. I can't tell you, I know there's specific jobs.
00:39:52.940
I recognize them, but I don't know exactly what they did, but they're younger and involved in
00:39:55.900
programming, no doubt for, you know, younger people. And a rabbi from one of the congregations who
00:40:02.940
grew up next door to my grandparents. I've known him since he was, probably since he was born,
00:40:06.540
he might've been two years old and they moved here. So here we are, the pro-Jewish media,
00:40:12.140
and Lauren Isaacs, who can name off every affiliation between left-wing Jewish activist
00:40:17.660
groups, what they say, how they use the same language as Hamas, as Hezbollah, the same language
00:40:22.940
as Palestinian authorities, how they desecrate Jewish traditions, try to subvert birthright trips,
00:40:32.940
people who are learning about their own country. I mean, they're real,
00:40:36.940
real characters. She can go up and down all of them and can talk about how dangerous it is and how it can
00:40:41.340
affect Jewish students trying to go to campus just to learn things, never mind to try to act out
00:40:46.060
their Jewishness. As we're having this conversation about anti-Semitism in Winnipeg, and in, frankly,
00:40:52.300
nationally, and what can be done, in behind Rabbi Rose, like in my field of vision this way, here goes
00:40:59.020
Bernie Bellin. And he's walking with somebody, and I didn't care enough to even check. When he walks past,
00:41:03.500
he looks, you know, backwards. Now I go back, so I'm like looking at Rabbi Rose right across from me.
00:41:08.860
All of a sudden, looming in behind Rabbi Rose, standing in behind him, he's like, come back,
00:41:15.420
and then walked in a couple of feet, is Bernie Bellin. And he's pointing. And he's right in the face.
00:41:21.740
But he's not pointing at me. He's to my left at run. Now he doesn't come up to the table and say,
00:41:30.700
hey, excuse me, everybody. Sorry, I got to interrupt. Hey, you guys.
00:41:36.220
He barges into a meeting between the director of Giroud Canada and our newspaper
00:41:47.020
and Jewish Federation officials and the rabbi of the second largest congregation in the city.
00:41:53.500
And his opening line is, let me tell you something, Ron East.
00:41:58.700
Now, I'm really happy if Bernie Bellin got to live out his lifelong dream of pretending to be a wrestler.
00:42:02.860
But he didn't stop there. You better watch yourself. When somebody says, you better watch yourself.
00:42:09.500
And they're going, hey, listen, you better watch yourself. But they're saying it to you
00:42:12.140
or they're pointing their finger and they're red in the face. That's a threat.
00:42:15.180
So Ron rises up and he proceeds to unleash a combination of words that I'm sure,
00:42:20.140
this is all 1045 in the morning on a Friday in the summer with no school, you know, school's out.
00:42:25.500
So it's full of, never mind Papaz and Zeta's great grandparents and kids and families and
00:42:31.340
people going to their swimming lessons and probably the odd, you know, orthodox person
00:42:36.140
wandering through to go to, who knows, the library, the library, the Jewish historical
00:42:39.660
museum or something that's in the complex. And Ron let loose with a few words that admittedly,
00:42:43.900
I'm sure some of those people have never heard either individually or frankly, with a hyphen in
00:42:48.460
between them. And Bernie doesn't back down. He doesn't back down. Ron lets him have it again.
00:42:56.780
And finally, this dissipates. Now, this is, of course, the end of the meeting.
00:43:01.100
Ron pretty much immediately when he calms down, sends an email apologizing to the people there
00:43:05.260
for his language. But clearly, this is provocatory. And there's no two ways about it. Somebody walks
00:43:10.620
up, interrupts a meeting. I mean, really, this is the story. Left wing publisher
00:43:15.740
disrupts meeting about anti-Semitism between Jewish officials and activists.
00:43:23.820
It's a terrible look. It's just such a bizarre kind of behavior and nothing I would expect.
00:43:31.020
Bernie Bell is not some firebrand 25 year old full of piss and vinegar. He's older than me.
00:43:34.940
You know, he's somewhere probably put. And I'm not saying it's the sound mean. He's probably,
00:43:38.540
you know, he's well preserved, but he's probably pushing 65, I think.
00:43:41.420
He's old enough to know better. He, as of our conversation right now, and I have written
00:43:48.300
Federation officials and Rabbi Rose, and I know Ron corresponded with Rabbi Rose about this.
00:43:54.220
Bernie Bellin has not apologized, not to the Federation officials, not to Rabbi Rose from Yitzchayim.
00:44:07.260
This is, you know, really acceptable in the eyes of a lot of people, that a 23 year old student who is
00:44:17.020
a rising expert in the subjects of anti-Semitism and pro-Israel activism and countering BDS,
00:44:24.620
that she, early in her role, it's not like she's been around for a decade doing this,
00:44:29.980
having a meeting with officials in what was used to be called the Jerusalem of Canada.
00:44:35.660
She's meeting with the officials here and with a rabbi who's, you know, got some schlep in terms
00:44:41.420
of the size of his contingency there, his congregation. And no apology to Lauren Isaacs or to
00:44:47.660
Heirut Canada. Just, Heirut North America, actually, because it's a, you know, it's a subsidiary,
00:44:53.900
Heirut Canada is. Just unbelievable that, and this is what's going on, that, that he would have done
00:45:01.180
that. And we've kept quiet on that, waiting to see if there would be apologies to anybody for
00:45:06.060
anything. Ron apologized for his language. He didn't start it. But these attacks on the pro-Israel
00:45:13.340
community, the, the, the slights, uh, being told that your opinion doesn't matter, that can, that,
00:45:18.940
you know, anything can be written about businesses or advertisers and your recourse is, well, well,
00:45:24.460
if you're not an advertiser, you're going to have to buy an ad. Like what? It's a very bizarre
00:45:28.220
approach. It's not my style of Jewish journalism, as I've indicated to, to our audience. Uh, uh, but
00:45:34.060
it's, uh, it's, it's disturbing. And, uh, it, it makes Ron and I know that we're on the right
00:45:39.900
path that, uh, this is disrupting the status quo, uh, that we've done nothing, uh, nothing wrong by
00:45:47.020
exposing this stuff and the notion that anyone else can defend, uh, uh, uh, Linda Sarsour as a
00:45:54.780
matter of free speech. And, uh, again, the Jewish post, you never read that 4,200 people signed that
00:45:59.980
petition that Ron Easton's wife Shirley organized, and you will always hear about it from anybody else
00:46:05.500
that knows what really went on. But he says, oh, these guys are troublemakers. And it's the attitude.
00:46:09.740
And even coming over to Ron in front of the Federation, in front of this rabbi, you better
00:46:14.300
watch yourself, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, trying to make him look
00:46:16.940
bad and discredit our business operation. Uh, the Jewish community needs unity, both from right and
00:46:21.820
left. And the left is to understand that, uh, uh, the game has changed and the right has a voice and the
00:46:28.460
right is as a strong opinions and, uh, is not just going to be bullied around because the left
00:46:37.180
owns a printing press. And it's, uh, it's very, it's, it's disturbing. I've known the people involved
00:46:43.340
for a long time, but in my wildest dreams, I never thought I'd see a meeting about antisemitism,
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a somebody try to prevent it. And then B a meeting with community leaders after that meeting is
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successfully held, somebody trying to interrupt that. It's just a very bizarre and disturbing pattern
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coming almost certainly from the political left. There's no other candidates for in another way
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really to describe what's going on to us in the last month. It shows that, um, for certain members
00:47:11.260
of the community and a small minority of the community, they think that the only Jewish voice
00:47:17.580
that should be out there is the left wing one. And, uh, you know, the, just the very fact that they're
00:47:23.180
so threatened by what you guys are doing, um, only speaks to the necessity of the work that you're
00:47:30.380
doing. It shows that there's another side of the story to be told. It shows that they don't want
00:47:33.900
the other side of the story to be told. And I don't know about you, but I do a lot of things just out of
00:47:38.060
spite because somebody told me not to, um, that's as good a reason as any some days to tell the other
00:47:46.140
side of the story. And I guess, you know what, being a left winger means never having to say you're sorry.
00:47:51.500
That's, you know, I'll, I'll tell you in Winnipeg when I want to take this back to what you talk
00:47:57.020
about at the beginning, that Manitoba was the beginning of the, the turn back towards conservative
00:48:01.180
governments in this country. And it shows you, uh, uh, how bad the NDP failed here under Greg
00:48:08.860
Selinger. I can't say it about Gary Doerr a lot, not to like, but Selinger really, uh, uh,
00:48:14.780
hurtled the province towards the toilet. Uh, and of course the 2015, how many of, uh, of these NDP
00:48:21.260
staffers migrated to Alberta to help, uh, Rachel Notley ruin that province. Right. So I think what
00:48:26.380
was going on in Alberta really reinforced the resolve of Manitobans. There was going to be a
00:48:31.020
change in the NDP. Tories took 40 seats. The NDP was reduced to 14. Uh, it's not really recognized
00:48:39.180
that the swing to conservatism that you, uh, have, have, have, have mentioned. It's not really
00:48:45.420
recognized nationally that this is where it started and the reasons why it started here,
00:48:49.900
which when things go too far to the left, when there's too much favoritism towards the union's
00:48:55.580
agendas, when there's, uh, laws that are counterproductive to the cause of human rights,
00:49:01.900
when there's a, you know, some things are allowed to slip through and other people become prosecuted and
00:49:06.380
persecuted by the practices of government departments. Um, part of the concern here is
00:49:12.700
that the Pallister administration has failed people who were counting on the, on the change
00:49:19.020
in government to turn around a lot of those bureaucratic behaviors, a lot of those administrative
00:49:24.060
behaviors within the government departments. Pallister did not come with a broom the way
00:49:28.780
I believe he should have and gotten rid of some of these characters because let's again,
00:49:32.700
let's look at health policy. It's the same, uh, uh, the same brainiacs that have been behind this
00:49:40.940
policy going back in terms of needle return rates, everything else, the same people, whether it's the
00:49:45.420
WHO, these other programs, they've been involved in this harm reduction for 15, 20 years and trying
00:49:51.820
to be like a, I don't want to say a caretaker government, but you know, they want to be, they
00:49:55.580
had a lot to deal with. They were very hands off and it came to a lot of administrative and bureaucratic
00:49:58.860
matters. And there are Tories that frankly, you know, are considering staying home. Uh,
00:50:03.740
you can decline a ballot here. And, and there is concern that, that, that the people that brought
00:50:09.580
Pallister to the dance, they weren't as recognized the people that were as regular dance partners,
00:50:13.340
so to speak from, from his own circles of support and people he knew in, in business or party business
00:50:19.180
or whatever. Uh, but ultimately this province has learned a hard lesson as did Alberta. Look at
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Ontario, never come close to going back NDP again. Um, and, uh, I, what you said about the left is
00:50:35.580
true. It's very, you know, what can, who's trying to say, sorry, I give him credit. It's just,
00:50:39.820
he's not saying he's sorry about everything and that hurts him. But in general, yes, it's, it's,
00:50:45.500
it's a shame that the left has drifted so far from the principled leftists like Stanley Knowles,
00:50:53.660
even Joe Zucan was a Winnipeg city councilor as a communist. Uh, David Orlico was a distant cousin
00:50:59.020
line. It was an NDP member of parliament for years that these were honorable people
00:51:05.340
that philosophically believed something, but we're doctrinaire. And that kind of,
00:51:10.540
you know, perhaps more genteel cooperative, um, you know, where, where nationalism meant
00:51:18.780
everybody together and not my kind of nationalism from the left. Uh, it's, it's, it's a startling
00:51:25.740
change. And to see it reflected in the kind of behaviors that we've seen, the J dot CN that I've
00:51:30.220
seen with, with the great Canadian talk show blog, it's, uh, you know, getting up every day. I don't,
00:51:36.460
I, I don't want those surprises. I want to be able to focus on the kind of work that I do and the kind
00:51:40.060
of work that you appreciate investigative stories, uh, proving the policies aren't working,
00:51:45.500
making the voice of people that are affected by bad policy heard. That's my raison d'etre
00:51:51.420
in the secular side. And, uh, and I really rather focus on it. And instead, you know,
00:51:56.300
what my lawyer used to call skirmishes and sometimes the skirmishes turn to battles.
00:52:01.900
And then every once in a while, you know, you never know when a war can break out. But luckily,
00:52:07.180
sometimes you just use a lot of funny swear words instead of, uh, coming from the other side of the
00:52:11.340
table, I guess. Okay. Marty, you've been so generous with your time, as you always are
00:52:17.260
with me. Um, what are some of the best ways that people can find your work? Um, even though Facebook
00:52:22.940
doesn't want people to find it and, uh, how can people financially support you in your efforts to
00:52:29.580
tell the other side of the story during the Manitoba election and to, you know, shine a light
00:52:34.300
on anti-Semitism, um, and the Jewish community, uh, west of Toronto? Uh, and increasingly a lot of
00:52:42.060
our stories have been about Toronto because there's so much action there. Um, uh, the best way really
00:52:47.740
is, you know, honestly, if people are, you know, pro-Israel, pro-Zionist, anti-BDS, uh, but believe in
00:52:54.140
the, you know, the Judeo-Christian values that Canada is based on, uh, and don't want to see,
00:52:59.820
uh, that, you know, those, those values, uh, threatened, uh, those values, uh, assailed.
00:53:06.140
Uh, the j.ca, uh, there is a, uh, a page there set up for advertising and for sponsorships
00:53:11.660
and, uh, one way or the other, that benefits me and keeps me, keeps me going in all my work. Uh,
00:53:17.660
and, uh, we're looking certainly towards a Jewish new year. So people are thinking it'd be good to put
00:53:21.820
up, uh, um, uh, you know, a banner ad that says, I stand with the Winnipeg Jewish community or anything
00:53:27.020
like that. Those traditional ads you'd see in print. So box ads, we'll do it for you digitally
00:53:31.100
at a much cheaper rate, as well as, you know, traditional advertising campaigns for goods
00:53:35.020
or services or products. Uh, and, uh, and, uh, as I said, there's also a donations possible through
00:53:41.020
there. So the j.ca, the j.ca has a Twitter account. If you type in the j.ca, it'll end up coming up.
00:53:46.620
Uh, we interact with you, Sheila, and, uh, and a number of people. It's a different audience
00:53:51.100
over there with what we do, but there is some crossover that I very much, uh, appreciate and we
00:53:55.420
appreciate the support and the, the, uh, you know, the thumbs up and the retweets that you
00:53:59.420
give the j.ca, uh, for my other reporting. Sometimes I write the odd story still from
00:54:04.140
Manitoba post, mostly they're about, you know, sports and bands, the entertainment side of
00:54:08.060
Marty that, uh, it never goes away, uh, where I show up someplace and it's like, wow, this is a good,
00:54:13.580
you know, this is a good set. And I'm going to get some good pictures of, of the singers and of the
00:54:17.340
bands. And I'm going to show what, what the other side of Winnipeg is like, um, uh, for, uh,
00:54:23.340
the other, uh, you know, more general reporting and analysis and commentary that I do, uh, uh,
00:54:29.580
TG CTS on Twitter. And from there, you'll find links to, uh, both the great game talk show blog
00:54:36.380
on blogspot, as well as the alternate location where I'm posting stories that can be posted on
00:54:41.020
Facebook. Uh, and, uh, and, uh, there's a link actually right in my profile, uh, for donations,
00:54:49.100
uh, that way. And, but again, if you go through the stories, you'll find every story has a link
00:54:53.260
to the original premise. There's two elections. So I'm coming back and, uh, and all support, uh,
00:54:58.300
we've, we got about 25%, about 30% of the goal of, uh, a hundred donors of $50 each to cover the two
00:55:04.860
elections, the Manitoba and the federal election in Manitoba. And I'm very hopeful that that'll get
00:55:09.420
topped up. Uh, nobody's getting rich here, but I, I, I think there's a lot of value in what I do and
00:55:15.660
what I've been trained to do. And I, I don't relish the idea that there's nobody like me who in this
00:55:20.700
market and in this region can tell these stories, has the institutional knowledge, can work with
00:55:26.540
people like Sheila on, on trends that are happening across the West. Uh, so anyways, that's where you
00:55:32.380
can find the J dot C on Twitter at TG CTS on Twitter, great Canadian talk show group on Facebook,
00:55:38.940
even if the blog can't be locked there and any support you folks can, can direct our way, uh,
00:55:45.500
would be very appreciated. And believe me, put to good use. Cause I got lots more work to do this
00:55:49.980
fall and into the winter. Uh, I think we all do. Um, Marty, I want to thank you for being generous
00:55:55.420
with your time. Um, hopefully we can check back in with you before the election is through in the
00:56:01.740
election. Yes, because I think, yeah, please, because I think, uh, we'll have some interesting
00:56:06.460
developments there. Um, and, and even just a media critique, you know, I think you're,
00:56:12.700
you're going to experience a lot of the same, uh, you know, bizarre attacks just for the sake
00:56:20.860
of attacking conservatives from the mainstream media during an election campaign. I think that'll
00:56:25.420
be fun to see. We'll see. And I can do something like that. The elections on September 10th. So
00:56:30.140
sometime maybe right around September 1st ish, you know, going in, what would they call it? The home
00:56:35.980
stretch maybe we can do that. And then perhaps a more fulsome, uh, uh, seminar with Sheila and Marty,
00:56:44.700
uh, in time for Jewish new year, which is around the end of September this year. I don't remember
00:56:48.060
the exact date around September 26th or 27th or 28th is Rosh Hashanah. And maybe we can do something
00:56:53.660
for Jewish new year. Sure. It's a date. Awesome. Okay. Thanks Marty. Have a great day. Thank you.
00:57:09.740
As you can see, Marty's doing valuable work in Manitoba. He's covering the election
00:57:18.940
and he's covering things that are elections issues like the failure of harm reduction strategies and
00:57:24.460
how harm reduction strategies are actually the thing harming low income neighborhoods.
00:57:29.260
And yet Marty's being censored by Facebook. I suspect because a bunch of so-called poverty
00:57:34.300
reduction advocates reported his work for telling the truth. Facebook doesn't want you and I to see
00:57:41.420
Marty's work. And that's as good a reason as any for me to share it with you. Well, everybody,
00:57:47.020
that's the show for tonight. Thanks so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody
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back here in the same time in the same place next week. And remember,
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don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
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We'll be right back here in the same time in the same time.