Montreal Raid on Rebel News, GraceLife's Gathering Point
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Summary
Our Montreal houseboat was raided by the Montreal Police Service without a warrant, and some of us were even arrested. And just will you hear what Ezra Levin has to say about this latest law enforcement outrage? Meanwhile, near Edmonton, a gathering point for hundreds of anti-police protesters was taken down by Mounties.
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Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you, in which we look back
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at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favourite Rebels.
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Well, a not-so-funny thing happened to the Rebel News team last weekend en route to a
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Montreal protest, which is to say our Montreal Airbnb was raided by the Montreal Police Service
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without a warrant, no less, and some of us were even arrested.
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Apparently, it's illegal to practice journalism in that city.
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And just will you hear what Ezra Levent has to say about this latest law enforcement outrage?
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Meanwhile, near Edmonton, Grace Life Church, which is now fenced off and guarded by Mounties,
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well, that was the gathering point for hundreds of supporters.
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Indeed, at one point, a section of the fence was pulled down.
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Sheila Gunn-Reed was there to witness everything, and she has all the nitty-gritty details.
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And letters, we get your letters, we get them every minute of every day, and you had plenty
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to say about a protest in Montreal last Sunday night, attended by a few thousand, mostly young
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people, who were taking a stand against the Quebec curfew law.
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It was more of an outdoor party than a protest, actually.
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And although it started out joyously, it ended on a very sour note, thanks to the presence
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of Antifa creeps, who thought it was a really good idea to smash in the windows of small
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I need somebody to be responsible for the boat.
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They have already arrested one of our reporters after physically assaulting him.
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What the police did to us today must see its day in court.
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Well, folks, those were some of the highlights, or is it lowlights, during our trip to Montreal last weekend when our completely legal houseboat was raided, without a warrant, mind you, by numerous members of the Montreal Police Service.
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A couple of us, including yours truly, were even arrested.
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Well, here to answer that query, hopefully, is Rebel News Commander Ezra Levin.
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Ezra, I've got to say, in all the years I've known you, I have never seen you more angry, justifiably, than you were on last Saturday.
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I was extremely angry, and I've thought about that, because a lot of bad things happen in the world, and I don't take them all personally.
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But I think the reason I was so mad is not that Rebel News was being targeted.
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And to see a police force, which is supposed to be a good guy, being a bad guy, I think that was just so disillusioning for me.
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So my anger, my rage, I'll use that word, was not just what was happening in the moment to our people.
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It's the realization that your, I don't know, your instincts, your views of the world, your whole worldview for nearly 50 years, it wasn't wrong, but it's changed.
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All the things you thought you knew about police, about the rule of law, about innocent until proven guilty, about warrantless searches and seizures, about police brutality.
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When you finally realize that you're wrong on all of that, because those terrible things are happening to you and your team, you're mad about it happening to your team, but you're also just crestfallen.
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You're thinking, I am terribly sad that what I thought was the way is no longer the way.
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My great fear was that if they went onto the houseboat where we were staying, which is, it sounds more dramatic than it was, it's just a registered Airbnb that happens to be permanently in the Port of Montreal.
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And we had 17 of us, so it was cheaper than staying in a hotel.
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But I think that the police maybe had some confidence they could raid it in a way they wouldn't have raided the Holiday Inn.
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Like the idea of police coming into the Holiday Inn, 50 cops, coming up to a door and saying, let me in.
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I don't know if police would have the audacity to do that.
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Maybe the fact that we were in a self-contained unit, they thought, oh, we can do it.
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I right away told them to leave and get a warrant.
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Since they couldn't find a judge to give them a warrant in 10 hours, they tried to abuse us.
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Anyone who got off, they searched in a violation of their civil liberties.
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They never actually told me what the problem was.
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Now, we had our lawyer there pretty quickly, and it was bizarre what they told him.
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They said they were looking to see if there was anyone else in the houseboat.
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We lawfully rented an Airbnb that is properly registered with the city, with the Port of Montreal, with all the authorities.
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I imagine he thought maybe we had a bunch of drugs, or maybe we were at a very noisy party or something.
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Maybe he thought we were doing something really bad.
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When he came and talked to the police, he came back to me, and I thought he was going to be mad at us for causing this whole ruckus.
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It was the most surprising thing I heard that day, is from the owner of the houseboat, who's a lovely man, who's just in the tourism business.
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He's trying to rent it out, trying to make a go of it.
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He said to me, I sure hope they're wrong and you're right, because if simply renting out an Airbnb is illegal now under pandemic laws, then I'm out of business.
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By the way, this Airbnb had a capacity, I think, of 21.
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And we had 17 people there, so we were under capacity.
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If you can shut down a hotel or an Airbnb, then you've got to shut them all down.
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It's clearly police just trying to come up with some excuse.
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And they were frustrated that we didn't bend the knee.
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I've never seen such a police deployment for something so laughable before.
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There was a group of observers up a little bit higher on the pier, about 100 at the max, at the height of it.
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And one of them said, are they filming a movie?
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Because you have 50 cops around a little Airbnb.
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For 10 hours, they locked down the whole site because we wouldn't give them illegal access.
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I mean, I would say to our viewers at home, imagine you're at the Holiday Inn or whatever hotel you stay at, and a cop just knocks on your door and says, we want to come in and look around.
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But I wasn't scared, and I did know what to do.
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But when I stepped out, they grabbed me, wouldn't let me back in, and they said to our younger staff, let us in.
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And because everything was being filmed, they knew they couldn't come in just shooting everyone.
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So for 10 hours, they tried to sort of smoke us out.
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And I think you know that they said to our lawyer, our lawyer was on the scene all day.
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They said to our lawyer, we'll let David Menzies out of jail if you let us onto the Airbnb without a search warrant.
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They were trying to trade your freedom for illegal access.
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But it raises the question, hang on, did you arrest David Menzies just as like a bargaining chip?
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And either he should be in jail or he shouldn't.
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You grab a guy, take him to the police station, then later say, we'll let him go if?
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But I want to go back in the timeline to indicate to folks that we were not looking for trouble.
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Around 10.20, myself, young Daniel Dale, and you, we went to, this was a complete coincidence.
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We saw more than two dozen police cruisers assembling about three football fields away from the houseboat.
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It turns out that's their parking place for when they go to the protest, which was scheduled for noon.
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So we went along, and my opening question to these police officers was, hey, guys, I just want to know, what are the rules for covering the protest?
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And he said, you have to talk to communications.
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It clicks off each time without ever going to a human person.
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And then, lo and behold, about 40 minutes later, they're all around the boat looking in.
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And that's when I got my first ticket, Ezra, for $1,550 for not wearing a mask.
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And I said, the police officer said, I was looking at you.
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I could see you in the boat not wearing a mask.
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And I said, that's true, officer, but you saw that brown McDonald's coffee cup.
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And then, of course, there was a shoving thing that got me arrested and charged with assault.
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So I just want to say, Ezra, it was almost surreal.
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And it was completely coincidental, all that, all those police officers were there.
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But once they found out, I think, we were rebel news, they were like a dog with a bone.
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And, I mean, they've been hunting us, tracking us, insulting us, expressing bad faith towards us for over a month.
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But at night, he goes out with a lawful exemption to report on the pandemic.
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And the cops hate that because he points the camera at them.
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And they start saying, Jew media, are you a Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew?
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So we sent extra journalists along, including people who were Muslim and Christian or whatever.
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So I have concluded that although the Montreal police may well be bigoted in some ways,
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their dominant motivating force is no accountability.
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It wasn't so much that Yankee was Jewish or that Mocha might be born in a Muslim country or Lincoln is, I don't know, I presume he's Christian, whatever.
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It's not so much their religion or, you know, we have staff who are black.
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I'm sure there are bigots in the Montreal police.
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But I think what they really hate is anyone shining a light of scrutiny on what they were doing.
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And when our cameramen capture them doing bad things, they have a hatred for us.
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And there's this one key video that we've shown before of cops saying to Mocha, why are you scrutinizing us?
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And this was their chance to rough us up a bit.
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They pushed me around a little bit like I wasn't in pain or anything.
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But they pinched me and poked me and stepped on my toe and pushed me around and wouldn't let me get back in.
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And it was very childish in a way of them, like very amateur, extremely unprofessional.
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And I just felt, I thought, you know, the things I once believed in so firmly, the foundations of our society were not built of stone.
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And when there is a bunch of people with guns and tasers and batons who are illegally detaining you, illegally trying to search and generally breaking the law while wearing a uniform, it's enraging.
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So I expressed my antipathy towards them with words.
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And I called them thugs, which I believe they were.
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I called them oath breakers, which I believe they were.
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I called them cowards because they hid their face.
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I raised my voice, which I think you ought to be able to do in such a calamity, a moral and legal calamity.
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They could not find a judge in all of Quebec who would grant them their illegal search warrant.
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In fact, I heard that more than one judge turned them down.
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For 10 hours, they were trying to find a judge to let them in our hotel rooms, and no judge would buy it, which, frankly, yeah, I mean, I would have thought they could have found someone.
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But, Ezra, I want to go back to something you said earlier.
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And it was this interchange with two police officers in French so they can't play the lost in translation card, calling us Jew Media.
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But, you know, we have, as you said, Christians, Muslims, atheists on board, our staff right now.
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And if you looked at our content, I would say that not even 1% of our videos are about Jewish issues or Israel issues.
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Or were they just using the word Jew as a slur?
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There are Jewish newspapers the same way there's Christian newspapers.
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In the last year, we've probably done, oh, I don't know, 2,500 videos.
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And I'd be surprised if five of them had a Jewish flavor.
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I mean, I made one video in Yiddish for the Jewish community of Montreal.
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It was, hey, guys, you're getting all these pandemic arrests.
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We'll give you a lawyer through fight the fines.
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I can't even think of five stories we've done about Israel.
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It's just not our priorities these days are the pandemic, civil liberties, the lockdowns, police brutality, cancel culture, spending, you know, the economy, unemployment.
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And believe me, if it is, I'm not shy about it.
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For them to call us Jew media, I mean, I don't want to be a trigger finger on calling people racist or anti-Semitic.
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I say again, I believe their chief malice towards us was rooted in the fact that we're exposing them.
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Whether or not we were English, French, Jewish, Christian, whatever is secondary.
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But I think it shows how unprofessional the force is.
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They were lying throughout the day to our lawyer, lying to us.
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And I think the ultimate proof of their corruption was how they tried to do a bargain with your freedom.
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Either their charges against you were bona fide or they're not.
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Now, we take the position that the charges against you are false.
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I think it's just another form of their harassment.
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But even taking them on their own terms, either you did something wrong or you didn't.
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So if you did something wrong, why would they let you go early unless they're using it as a poker chip?
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That, I can just imagine how that plays out every day by the Montreal police.
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I'll enforce this law unless you give me a favor.
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I won't enforce that law if you do this or don't do that.
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But as if, I mean, it just reminds me, I just watched the movie The Godfather again, part two,
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where they have lots of flashbacks to, you know, Little Italy in New York and how the Godfather was coming back.
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Everything was a little bit of, oh, can I dip my beak a little bit?
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Like just the Godfather he'd opposed walking through Little Italy, just stealing a little bit from everybody he went by.
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And because if you resisted, he would hurt you.
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I get the feeling that is the style of Canada's most corrupt police.
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The other day on my live stream, we typed in Montreal police corruption into Google.
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They are by far the most corrupt police force in Canada.
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They're constantly plagued with corruption accusations, constant resignations, constant investigations.
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I mean, I wouldn't want to say they're worse than the Chicago police or the police in Louisiana under Huey Long.
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I want to give them credit for being the dirtiest police in North America.
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But I'd say that the Montreal police force is in the top three most corrupt police forces in North America.
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Now, I have to go back to Montreal on May 12th.
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I have to be fingerprinted because I'm facing a potential criminal record if I get convicted.
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And they made it clear to me if I don't come back on that day, there will be a Canada-wide warrant for my arrest.
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But in terms of us as a company, Ezra, what are we going to do in terms of perhaps civil litigation?
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Well, I had a great conversation with our lawyers today about it.
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Obviously, I don't want to give away our confidential strategy.
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But I don't think it's a secret to say three things.
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First of all, we're going to defend you with a legal dream team.
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I mean, we're going to absolutely fight tooth and nail all the way.
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The second thing is I read in La Presse that the Montreal police, they didn't give anyone else any tickets that day.
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I hear they're going to be sending a bunch of tickets over my mail.
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Well, when they'll come, we'll put them on the stack with the rest of them and we'll fight them.
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I mean, if you got a ticket for drinking coffee without a mask, I'd like to.
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Well, I mean, I guess masks do sort of look like coffee shelters sometimes.
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But I think that besides defending their false prosecutions, I think we have to put them on the back foot.
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I think we have to, you know, I think sometimes different institutions, like we're suing the Toronto Police Service for violence against you and others.
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Our friend Avi Amini in Melbourne, Australia, was brutally attacked by police.
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So I believe that it is probably necessary for us to sue not only individual police officers, but the SPVMs itself.
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That stands for the Montreal Police, for the Ville, Ville Montreal, that's a VM.
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I think we have to sue them for assault, for false imprisonment, for harassment, for breach of duty, for abuse of process, abuse of office.
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I'll take advice from our Quebec lawyers on what the right way is, but I get the feeling that Montreal's press are very docile and submissive.
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La Presse, that's the dominant French-language newspaper in town.
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I submitted a letter to the editor to them in French.
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And you've got to think, okay, well, you're submissive because if you're not, the police will be violent to you and hurt you.
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Police illegally tapped his phone like two dozen times.
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It's one of the many scandals I learned about by Googling Montreal police corruption.
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So Montreal police are abusive to everyone, including their friends at La Presse.
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Imagine La Presse, they are one of the leaders in taking government bailouts, it won't surprise you at all.
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They kiss their boots, even though the Montreal police routinely, illegally spies and listens into their phone calls.
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And still they can't get enough of that Montreal police.
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I'm sure the Montreal police are listening to your phone and my phone.
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And I think there's a word for that relationship.
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I've got to tell you, I had no dealing with the Montreal police until this weekend.
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My impression of the Montreal police was positive.
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And the Montreal police service lends the comedians that do these elaborate pranks, their cruisers, their uniforms, the whole shebang.
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I can't think of another police force in the world that would do that.
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I've learned that's the PR side of the Montreal police.
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The real Montreal police, less gags, more gestapo.
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They just want to be left alone to worship as they see fit, as is their charter protected right to do so.
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The police have me parked almost a kilometer, it looks like, from the church.
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But let's get out of the jeep and go check it out.
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And right now we're at a crux where more people are coming together.
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For the last nine months there's been different organizations that have been on different pages.
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And it seems now they're finally banding together.
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So all we need to break it all down is do something stupid like rip a fence down.
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Because what we have coming in the next three, four, five months is going to be huge.
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Because people are finally waking up and unifying.
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And right when we start to wake up we do something like this.
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This will be looked at as if the U.S. Capitol building.
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If we rip this thing down we'll be no better than them.
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And you know how far back that will push our cause?
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Because some yahoos decide to rip down a fence.
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So the fence came down and you called for peace.
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Yeah, because we're here for a church and we're here to represent freedom.
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And we'll destroy every bit of it if we take down this fence.
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This is here for peace and for the church and for freedom.
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And there are some people here who are clearly not respecting the way the church has handled this from the very beginning.
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These people are here to self-promote themselves, try to make something of themselves.
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And by them spreading hate, they're just guilty of what they're talking about.
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Especially when this has been sort of a unifying movement.
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So many people are here to stand and support Grace Life.
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And that's the thing, is that for nine months, people have been not unified.
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Different organizations, and they've been kind of separated.
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Now the organizations are unifying, and they're coming together.
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And if we stay that way in 60, 90, 120 days, we could start making impact.
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But they'll simply undo it all by just ripping this down, because they just aren't patient enough.
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And they want to, you know, represent fate, or hate, and fear, and everything else.
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And I think we can see a change, but that's never going to be the answer.
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There are enough people who attend this church every single week who could have taken the fences down, and they didn't.
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And that's not, because that's not the solution.
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Because, you know, you sit here, and you look at this, and it doesn't matter what side you're on.
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It doesn't matter if people think we're all crazy, or, you know, you look at the policemen and the other media that are here.
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But what they do all do, I guarantee you, is they respect the show of camaraderie.
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They respect the show of community and unification, and they can embrace that.
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But the minute it goes bad, all that respect goes out the window.
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And that's how we're going to turn people's minds and hearts, is by showing them peaceful unification.
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It's to the point that it's almost emotionally moving to see this.
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Well, folks, that was the scene last Sunday at Grace Life Church near Edmonton.
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As the church's congregants assembled at an undisclosed venue to pray, hundreds of supporters ventured out to the church,
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which now looks more like a prison, thanks to that ominous fence that surrounds the building,
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and, of course, the huge presence of law enforcement.
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The most dramatic flashpoint last Sunday was when some in the crowd tore down a section of the fence,
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while several others chanted, leave the fence alone.
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And with more on the ongoing saga of the Grace Life Church is our very own Sheila Gunn-Reed,
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who was thankfully in the thick of things last Sunday, because, you know, folks,
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you can't trust what the mainstream media is reporting on this story.
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Yeah, the mainstream media reporting versus what me and, you know, a thousand other people who were there that day witnessed,
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You could march Moses and the Israelites right up the middle of the big gap in reporting that's happening in this story.
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But, Sheila, my first question to you is simply this.
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I personally think what the province is doing to Grace Life Church is immoral, it's unethical,
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So, was tearing down this fence the right strategy to embrace,
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or does this simply lead to a whole new raft of problems for Grace Life?
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Well, I know for the folks at Grace Life, it's not about the fence, it's not about the building either,
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and for them it's not even about their pastor, because from the very beginning,
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all they ever wanted to do was join together completely unrestricted by the state,
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without a mask, without social distancing, without caps on their numbers.
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For them, their act of worship requires that they be in person together.
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And so, that's why they continued, even when the province arrested and then kept their pastor
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They just kept joining together, because it's not about the guy on the pulpit either.
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For them, it's about their personal relationship with God and how they're supposed to worship.
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And so, when the province moved in to seize their building,
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and then put the first fence around it, and then the second fence, and then the tarp,
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and then now the third perimeter fence all around it,
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for them, that doesn't matter, because they still did what they needed to do on Sunday.
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And that was gather in an underground church now,
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somewhere at an undisclosed location, so that they could all be together.
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So, while, for me, I see that fence and I want to rip it down,
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You see that fence, you see it as the state locking Christians out of their church,
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And you don't know what else to do, but you just want to rip it down.
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We all support them in their battle, or at least I think most normal people do.
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We want them to be left alone to do what they've always done, completely safely.
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But they could have ripped that fence down at any time.
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He could come and use his tractor and pull the fence down.
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and again, I understand why people get agitated and want to pull that fence down.
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and that's why there were some people who were actually involved in the church,
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and they started to chant, leave the fence alone,
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and the fence went back up as quickly as it came down.
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Yeah, you know, Sheila, you've kind of convinced me with your arguments
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I was in Montreal with our ace videographer, Mocha.
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And we were driving to do a story, and we saw that on Twitter.
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we were deflated to learn that protesters were joining
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to help the police erect the fence, and we're going, what is this?
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Adam Skelly was breaking the law when he reopened Adamson Barbecue
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But there is a difference, and it came clear to me after we chatted.
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Adam Skelly was the owner, is the owner, of Adamson Barbecue.
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The church, the people that own the Grace Life Church,
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And I guess ultimately, because they literally have skin in the game,
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we have to respect their wishes to not tear down the fence,
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even though visually it was such a beautiful act of civil disobedience.
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the bricks and mortar of the church building doesn't really matter.
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So wherever they gather together, that's the church.
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And while it may have felt like a short-term victory to see that fence come down,
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the true victory was that the Grace Life congregation
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were able to gather together at the exact same time somewhere else
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And Sheila, you raise a very interesting point here.